pontiacgagt potential scammer

[DaiLo23]

been waiting patiently but looks like I may have gotten scammed. Only a $20 transaction and he has 3 positive feedbacks in the past, but I EMT'd him the payment Jan 25th and he said he'd have it shipped the following monday.

So that would be Jan 28th. I pm'd him confirming that it was shipped, PM read but ignored. PM'd again early this week to ask if it had been shipped, again PM read and ignored.

It's coming from Ottawa so it shouldn't be taking this long. Also ignoring PM's is another bad sign. Anyways be careful if you make a deal with him. Luckily the item I wanted was $20.

also payment was sent to " jamie.deck@gmail.com "

[nork]

Just to let you know that i received my order today. I posted in his original thread, see here:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=539425

It seems, at this point, that he is not a scammer but got caught up in who knows what and didnt get his shipping done when he should have. I dunno, but i suspect that all of us will now get our stuff. I sure hope you get yours.
Would you let me know when you get your goods?
I did go and post a neg ref as i was lied to about time of shipping and my part came not well packaged in my opinion, a thin mailer for a video card, instead of a box.


thanks

[DaiLo23]

i finally received the item but there are a few problems..i'll see how the seller reponds

[nork]

I hope that he does respond favorably to you.
Will look good on him if he does.
Perhaps you should point out what the problems are. I did so in the hope that he will, in the future, do a better job in his dealings with fellow rfd members. I didnt do it with malice in mind and i feel certain you wouldnt either. But i do feel we have a right to know what is going on.

[7jaii]

This is an example of why posting in Scammers & Warnings is important. pontiacgagt erased his old sales thread and started new believing that thread will die and buyers won't read your feedback.

Now he's added a laptop to his previous selection of Video Cards. It's not shady but hopefully he won't make the same mistake and piss off so many buyers.

Old BST http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=539425

New BST http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=553057

Dude sent Noob1ee the wrong item! How can pontiacgagt continue to sell if he doesn't clear up his old mess? He said he was overwhelmed and left packages in his back seat. Now he has time to clean a laptop, test CPU & Ram? Yeah, I don't believe he learned anything from past negative feedback.

[nork]

In his defence, he did post that he was having problems with shipping. Wether the actual story was true or not, he was giving himself a chance to fix things. Who among us hasnt told a little white lie like that, if indeed he did? We dont know for sure, but what he likely didnt know was that we have all heard the "back seat of wifes car" a milliion times before, lol.

He did fix things by me as far as me getting the goods i paid by EMT for. I wasnt happy with the shipping, but again, give him a chance. I bet with this new round that he will ship in boxes, with paper, peanuts, foam, whatever it takes to secure an item in a box and get thru the shipping process ok. I dont believe he will ship like he did before.
I suspect he will do things properly this time. But, again, its a bit early to tell.
As far as him deleting his thread, well, again, he shouldnt have. He did it in anger because of negative items posted there, not realizing this makes him look bad.
All i am saying is we can all talk about his past behaviour, which wasnt good. But he did state that he was trying and seemed to indicate that he would be making good on all his deals. Now someone has reported they got the wrong item. That can happen. Whats important is what he does about it. Pay for return shipping and ship out the proper item. We need to wait and see if he does these things and learns from past mistakes. If not, then thats a different matter. And had he not been making any effort at all to ship the items he got money for, that would have been a different matter. But it seems to me that he is shipping and people are reporting, like i did, that they are getting their items.
Its just too early to say he is a bad guy. Surely he has made some mistakes, that we know. What we dont know is his future actions.
I suspect he would do better if he came here and posted but thats just my thoughts.
One final thing that comes to mind is that how can people rely on info when there is little or no info reported. I reported my end but where are the other people who have been involved in this. Maybe there are bad stories but maybe there are good stories. We just dont know, other than my story which is clearly outlined.

[pontiacgagt]

Yes I did ship a wrong Item, but have been in contact and am ready to ship him the correct item. I have told him to keep the mistaken item (80G HD) since it is not really worth paying for it to be returned.

Yes I am aware I used ****** packaging and will from now on take more care in how I ship items. I have use that method many times before without complaint.

I deleted my old thread because yes, I was getting **** on for a mistake that I made and owned up to. I am glad to see that no one else has ever made a mistake.

7jaii:
Why do you care what I am selling? If a buyer is not happy with the way a transaction played out, it is up to them to complain about it not you.

DaiLo23 is being shipped a new item that arrived defective (yes mabey due to packaging.

Noob1ee as mentioned earlier is being shipped the correct item.

Nork you will get a Positive rating.


And the only warning I see valid is the packaging.

[nork]

And the only warning I see valid is the packaging.

Sorry, gotta point out that there was late shipping as well. Also the fact that i and likely others, were led to believe you had already shipped when you hadnt. But look, i got my part and this has all been discussed.

And DaiLo23 really has the say here because his was the longest delay in shipping. He waited from around Jan 20th or some close and on into Feb, with not a lot of contact in between, and wondering if he got scammed. You see, what goes thru peoples minds is they are getting scammed! They arent getting scammed but they dont know that and they get angry, you cant blame them. Some of these people contacted me when they coldnt get thru to you. Why would they do that? They were worried as people can and DO get ripped off here, you need to understand this and put down your anger, its not doing you any good, rather, the opposite.
Also, and this is only my opinion, they know that a lot of bad deals go unlisted for fear of retaliation. So that plays on their minds too. One of the people mentioned you werent returning their pms. What YOU didnt realize was that is the classic sign of a scammer. They are quick on the pms until they have your money, late in shipping , then
they wont answer pms. You were behaving in the manner of a classic scammer. You arent a scammer but they didnt know that!!
So you see that people DID have a right to be upset. And i see you acting upset. Well, you dont really have that right and you need to stop it. You gave up the right to be upset when you did what you did. The best way to fix it is to fix it. Go ahead with deals, package right and ship on time, keep pms going and you will get over this bump. But in the meantime, yes, people will post. A lot of it is NOT toward you, its toward scammers, of which you are NOT. So dont get upset about it, let us get it out of our systems.

I am guessing here that you are young and made a few mistakes. Packaging, in some cases, not shipping when you said you did to give you time to ship, lol, (most of us have fudged by a day or part of a day) not keeping good communication. Thats likely because the packages were still in the car and not shipped.

At this point best to be cool, apologetic about the whole thing, let us blow our steam, go ahead and do good business and all will be well.

Hope this all makes sense to you. Just put yourself in the other person shoes and thinking about being scammed. 7jaii has the right to post and i bet he, me, and probably all who post in here have been victim of scammers, liars, cheaters, stealers, on and on. We dont like it, we are upset about it, we want it stopped and we know it cant be stopped. That is why we are upset. Its certainly not all toward you at this moment and you need to understand this.

[7jaii]

7jaii:
Why do you care what I am selling? If a buyer is not happy with the way a transaction played out, it is up to them to complain about it not you.

RFD is a self-policing forum. In past years we had a string of scams & non-deliveries. RFDers are encouraged by the operators of this forum and like-minded people to weed out bad trading practices and prevent the reoccurence of scams and bad trades. nork is taking it very easy on you, others would have accepted nothing but a full refund - and still post you in this section.

I'm not targeting you, and I'm not bullying you into any behaviour you don't want to change. We're looking out for each other and deleting your old thread throws up Big Warning Signs. Good luck with your sale and your feedback will improve.

[nork]

7jaii, i believe you are right on in your previous post and your assessment of the entire situation with scammers. They DO delete their threads in a pitiful attempt to try to cover up and/or otherwise mitigate their involvement. And you have a right to not only point that out, but to be watchful and involved when scammers are doing their thing. If not, this place goes to h3ll real fast.

I honestly feel that a lot of crap gets by because we are afraid to leave bad refs for another person in case they retaliate. Being more new than old to this forum, i contacted a mod before i made a neg ref and the mod told me to not worry, that a retaliatory ref will be deleted. So, dont be afraid, people, of a bad retaliatory reference just because you told the truth about a forum members bad practices. The mods will take care of you. And all too often we let bad stuff go by just because we feel bad about doing a bad reference. But we NEED to realize that if we give a person a good ref
instead of the bad one they deserve then they will continue on the same path as they did before, bad packaging, poor communication, which usually means ducking pms, lying, bad parts that werent tested before shipping, etc, etc. A good case in point is this situation here. Pontiacgagt has on one hand pointed out that he feels the poor packaging is the only real gripe and then pointed out that he ships that way all the time and never had a complaint. My point is that he needed to know that shipping any video card with a small piece of cardboard partly around it, and then put in an envelope does NOT contstitute proper shipping methods. I havent been able to test the vid card yet as i dont have the other parts i need to test it in the mobo i just got, waiting on ram for it. It may work and it may not.
But, rest assured, a video card goes in a decent box, with whatever inside the box so that the vid card, or any other card, doesnt slide around. That is a bare minimum. The card should also be placed in an electrostatic bag as well. And had all this not happened, he was of the opinion that its ok to ship a video card so poorly.

For others reading this, again, pontiacgagt is not a scammer. He just didnt realize that what he was doing was making him look really bad, a lot worse than things really were, a lot worse. Now he did make some mistakes. His packaging was poor and he fudged about shipping when he hadnt shipped yet. But he did ship parts. So he isnt a scammer. And he has promised to clear things up. He did make mistakes and will pay for them. I gave a bad ref and i can imagine at least another one or 2 will follow.

[DaiLo23]

just an update, seller is legit. He's made up for it by replacing the drive, albeit it took a long time for me to receive both the original drive and replacement drive.

2nd drive was packed much better than the first drive

[flockhat]

Wow, I guess I should check out this forum more often. I just had purchased this item http://http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=558173&highlight=blackberry+curve from pontiacgagt. It seems like the transaction went smooth so far. I had him deliver the phone to a 3rd party in Ottawa, he showed up as promised and so far it looks all legit ( I still haven't received the phone from the 3rd party yet) the deal went down like clock work and the communication was smooth. I will definately leave him positive feedback once I recieve the phone (hopefully this weekend) and it checks out, also he has promised to get me receipt for warranty purposes.

I guess as long as the sellers makes good on his promises, anyone can make mistakes once in a while

Keep you updated

[nork]

He isnt to be discussed in the same manner as a scammer. He's a good guy, made a couple mistakes is all, which i put down to him being young.