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Peckerwood
Mar 15th, 2008, 04:56 PM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article900459.ece

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FIRE extinguishers are being banned from blocks of flats – after they were branded a health and safety RISK.

The canisters could be dangerous if people use them without training, risk assessors said.

And they could encourage people to stay and tackle a blaze rather than flee.

The Fire Service is backing the ban – which could be brought in across the country under new rules.

But Mike Edwards, 61 – who lives in a ten-storey block where extinguishers are to be banned – branded the decision “ludicrous”.

He said: “I was absolutely staggered – Britain has gone mad. How can removing extinguishers be safe?

“If you are trapped in a burning building, you will certainly work out how to use an extinguisher.

“Our oldest resident is 103, but even she said she could work out how to use one in an emergency.”

The retired printer, of Bournemouth, Dorset, said people at a nearby block were “worried sick” about fires after their extinguishers were taken away.

He added: “The Fire Service can’t quickly get their equipment above the eighth floor – so if someone is trapped they are now just expected to sit and burn.”

The Government’s new Regulatory Reform Fire Safety Order says every private block of flats must be risk assessed.

Escape

Extinguishers have already gone from communal areas at 13-storey Admirals Walk in Bournemouth.

A letter to residents from agents said: “Unless all residents are trained to operate the fire extinguishers, there is no legal requirement to maintain these in communal areas of residential blocks.”

Pete Whittaker of Dorset Fire and Rescue said each block would be judged separately over whether it should have the canisters.

He said: “In some cases, they are no longer needed and are more of a hazard.

“We do not want to encourage people to leave their flat to fetch a fire extinguisher from a hallway and then return to a blaze – we want people to get out safely.”

He said new building regulations meant that all escape routes should be fireproof anyway.

The ruling comes months after Bournemouth Council stopped lending armbands at its swimming pools over health and safety fears.

65505201
Mar 15th, 2008, 05:07 PM
I know people generally look down upon the word "********" because it may be insulting to mentally challenged people...however, in this case, mentally challenged people would be insulted to be associated with the people who passed this gem.



The canisters could be dangerous if people use them without training, risk assessors said.

Ya...I suppose the canisters would be riskier than fire? :confused: Other than turning the hose on yourself, the only risk would be from a CO2 extinguisher displacing O2. If that really was the rationale, stick with chemical extinguishers.



And they could encourage people to stay and tackle a blaze rather than flee.


You empty the canister and if it doesn't work, you GTFO. If the fire is small, the canister can make the difference between a scorched stovetop and a house burned to the ground.


“Unless all residents are trained to operate the fire extinguishers, there is no legal requirement to maintain these in communal areas of residential blocks.”


How much training to you need? Pull pin. Aim nozzle at base of fire. Squeeze the handle! There! I knew how to do this by the time I was in grade 3! After moving to Canada in grade 2!



“We do not want to encourage people to leave their flat to fetch a fire extinguisher from a hallway and then return to a blaze – we want people to get out safely.”

How about giving people the choice? For small fire, you *know* people are going to try to stomp it out and what not. How about giving people some effective to take care of themselves?

I know American is generally poked fun of for frivolous lawsuits. I just hope the people responsible for this gem gets sued out of the ass. If I were there, I would've said, f the law. I'm keeping my extinguisher.

chickenbones
Mar 15th, 2008, 05:37 PM
What if some guy was on fire, do you run away from him and wait for the fire department?

Fire Extinguishers are dangerous...wow. You can use the same logic to ban seat belts, 'cus you don't want ppl to be encouraged to go fast right? If there were no seat belts then maybe ppl will drive safe and slow. So by the same logic, seat belts are dangerous!

Menthol
Mar 15th, 2008, 06:27 PM
Good thing we adopted only English and not common sense from them. :confused:

mrG
Mar 15th, 2008, 06:33 PM
Ah, gotta love The Onion!

... w-wait.. what!?

:-0

Lava
Mar 15th, 2008, 06:55 PM
That is the most ******** thing I have ever heard.

Thanks OP! :cheesygri