cat5e cabling issue

[Jetran]

I was wondering if anyone is able to help me with this. I've been trying to network my home, but haven't been having any luck.

What I'm trying to do:

Patch cable from computer to wall outlet
Toolless cat5e keystone jacks from each wall outlet to a central room wall outlet
Patch cable from wall outlet to a router


The toolless cat5e jacks I'm using look like this: http://www.firefold.com/images/products/CAT5E-TKJ-BLU.jpg

I've made all the connectors as 568B and I can't seem to get a connection. Am I doing something incorrectly?

I've tested just the patch cables and they work fine. I cut a shorter cable and put two jacks to each end and used the working patch cables to both ends from computer to router and it still didn't work.

Thanks in advance!

[Octavius]

I was wondering if anyone is able to help me with this. I've been trying to network my home, but haven't been having any luck.

What I'm trying to do:

Patch cable from computer to wall outlet
Toolless cat5e keystone jacks from each wall outlet to a central room wall outlet
Patch cable from wall outlet to a router


The toolless cat5e jacks I'm using look like this: http://www.firefold.com/images/products/CAT5E-TKJ-BLU.jpg

I've made all the connectors as 568B and I can't seem to get a connection. Am I doing something incorrectly?

I've tested just the patch cables and they work fine. I cut a shorter cable and put two jacks to each end and used the working patch cables to both ends from computer to router and it still didn't work.

Thanks in advance!

All you need is two pairs to make networking work. Hook up the orange and green pairs to the respective orange and green slots. Leave the blue and brown disconnected.

Make sure you have them hooked up with the same standard on both ends, otherwise it won't work.

If I remember correctly, "A" is the Canadian standard and "B" is the American standard. Doesn't matter if you use B in Canada, just make sure you're consistent.

[Desolatax]

If I remember correctly, "A" is the Canadian standard and "B" is the American standard. Doesn't matter if you use B in Canada, just make sure you're consistent.

Incorrect, The reason for the 568-A and 568-B standards is that making one end of a Cat5 cable an A and the other a B will result in a crossover cable.
I've never heard of A being the Canadian standard and B being the US standard. Also it doesn't matter if you use A-A or B-B for a straight through, because the copper connecting to the other end it mapped to the same output.

All you need is two pairs to make networking work. Hook up the orange and green pairs to the respective orange and green slots. Leave the blue and brown disconnected.
NO NO NO!!! Connect ALL of the pairs. Technically for 10BASE-T you only need two pairs, but that is if you want to limit it to 10mbps!! Also the other pairs help reduce crosstalk. Gigabit requires all four pairs.

[Octavius]

Incorrect, The reason for the 568-A and 568-B standards is that making one end of a Cat5 cable an A and the other a B will result in a crossover cable.
I've never heard of A being the Canadian standard and B being the US standard. Also it doesn't matter if you use A-A or B-B for a straight through, because the copper connecting to the other end it mapped to the same output.

Hence my "if my memory serves me correctly". I know that so long as the same connectors are occurring on both ends that it'll work, but at the cabling company I used to work at, they always told me to use the "A" configuration because we were "Canadian Eh". Dunno if they were just messing with me or not, but I did all my work using the A configuration. They did the same.


NO NO NO!!! Connect ALL of the pairs. Technically for 10BASE-T you only need two pairs but that is if you want to limit it to 10mbps!! Also the other pairs help reduce crosstalk. Gigabit requires all four pairs.

You missed my point. The OP was asking for help regarding why what he did wasn't working. My advice to only connect two pairs was to start him off with the BARE MINIMUM (2 pairs, orange and green) and if it works, then move up from there and connect the other two pairs.

[Jetran]

so what else can I do?

[jnette]

you said you've followed the standard 568B to 568B on both ends but still doesn't work.


Im thinking the conductors are not being properly terminated(not making contact from cable to jack). If you used your fingers to crimp try to press down with plyers.

If they don't work try a different brand of jacks. If you want tool less look for NORDX jacks(terminate with your thumbs or plyers).

[rock hard]

+1 to what jnette said.

Look at the individual wires and see if the metal 'blades' are cutting thru the insulation and making contact with the wire. I used those in my old house and had the same problem, had to use the clip (clear plastic) part that holds the wires in place and push down 3 or 4 times before they all made contact. Possibly even try wiggling the wires after you've locked the clip down.

[board123]

NO NO NO!!! Connect ALL of the pairs. Technically for 10BASE-T you only need two pairs, but that is if you want to limit it to 10mbps!! Also the other pairs help reduce crosstalk. Gigabit requires all four pairs.
100Base-T also uses 2 pairs. You need gigabit to use all 4 pairs.

You'd definitely want to wire all 4 pairs in case you decide to go gigabit one day.

[brew99]

Have you tried going direct to the router via a patch cable? This will ensure that atleast you can connect to the router. if that works, look at you socket connections to ensure that the twisted pairs are making good contact.

If you are using stranded cable, then make sure that you have connectors that are suitable for stranded wire, as opposed to solid core wire. the tongs that press through the individual wires are different, and may not provide a solid connection if you mix the stranded and solid.

If you are 100% sure that you've wired both ends the same, then it really should be very simple.

I'm assuming you are using a router that has the built in switch (i.e. a typical home router).