2009 Subaru Tribeca has been priced!

[thenwhat]

For those of whom are interested in monitoring the new price of 2009 Subaru Tribeca, the new prices of 2009 Tribeca were out in May 7, 2008.
Quoted from Subaru Canada News, @ http://www.subaru.ca/WebPage.aspx?ArticleID=4766&WebPageID=4998&WebSiteID=282
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The base Tribeca remains an extremely well-equipped luxury SUV, and the only major change is the price: at $39,995, the Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) is a full $2,000 less than the 2008 model. The Tribeca Limited Package, which now offers an enhanced range of standard equipment such as third row seating, DVD entertainment system, and a new monitor system with a backup camera, will sell for the same price as the 2008 model-$45,195. The 2009 Premier Package, with the same outstanding standard amenities as its predecessor, will decrease a significant $4,300 in price, to $48,195.
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It seems to me that the cross-boarder shopping indeed made Subaru thinks twice on that new MRSP, but still a big price gap (about 9K) compares to the south. And if they still can offer a similar cash rebate of 8K like they did for 2008 Trebica, then I will be tempted..... But that is just a daydreaming I think...

[henry495]

I am disappointed by how little Subaru has dropped the price of their 2009 model. There is still $9k gap for the Tribeca and about $7k gap for the Forester.

[izzyzz]

I am disappointed by how little Subaru has dropped the price of their 2009 model. There is still $9k gap for the Tribeca and about $7k gap for the Forester.

+1. This does nothing to remove the incentive to shop in the U.S..

[luck11]

The cash incentive for ALL 09 models has been cut that in half to only $4K. Sucks.

Also, they dropped the 5 passenger Limited. It is only available in 7 passenger with DVD....I need neither.

I was interested the Limited 5 passenger with no DVD. We don't travel nearly enough nor far enough to justify a DVD in the vehicle. Waste of money.

And, Subaru has not included the telescoping steering wheel in the 09 either, even though it was avail on the 08 outback. At 6'4", I need it to compensate for putting my seat back. Also, all competitors have it standard.

Anyway, I hope the US comes out with its 09 trims and pricing soon.

[henry495]

The cash incentive for ALL 09 models has been cut that in half to only $4K.

Where do you get this info. about cash incentive for 09 models?

[luck11]

Where do you get this info. about cash incentive for 09 models?

From my dealer, who expects to receive their first 09s this week.

[bionicbadger]

And, Subaru has not included the telescoping steering wheel in the 09 either, even though it was avail on the 08 outback. At 6'4", I need it to compensate for putting my seat back. Also, all competitors have it standard.


The outback only telescopes a small amount, less than 2 inches.

[luck11]

The outback only telescopes a small amount, less than 2 inches.

If my 05 Outback XT had an extra two inches, I would be happy camper. 2 inches makes a huge difference when you have to drive with arms outstretched.

[rogerrabbit168]

Where do you get this info. about cash incentive for 09 models?

From my dealer, who expects to receive their first 09s this week.


which dealer is that?

[GOLDFLEET]

Where do you get this info. about cash incentive for 09 models?

From my dealer, who expects to receive their first 09s this week.

your dealer is full of it!
Subaru Canada has not released ANY details on 09 Tribeca's yet EXCEPT the price! nothing on the incentives, or an ETA. Trust me I AM A DEALER!
Also the 09 Tribecas have not yet been released from Compund so if he thinks he'll have it in a week hes yankin yer chain!

but Ill sell you any Subaru for $500 over invoice until the end of May 2008.
so email me or PM me or give me a call and Ill set you up good!
1-888-513-5338 ext 207 dylana@goldfleet.com

[GOLDFLEET]

+1. This does nothing to remove the incentive to shop in the U.S..

How about not as many options, no warranty coverage, and by the time you pay all your taxes at the border and have any necessary upgrades done to meet canadaian standards your only saving about $2000, Not to mention the fact that you have to pay CASH, and the US will NOT accept any canadian trade ins, leaving you to sell your trade on your own!?! hmmm???

but Ill sell you any Subaru for $500 over invoice until the end of May 2008.
so email me or PM me or give me a call and Ill set you up good!
1-888-513-5338 ext 207 dylana@goldfleet.com

[luck11]

How about not as many options, no warranty coverage, and by the time you pay all your taxes at the border and have any necessary upgrades done to meet canadaian standards your only saving about $2000, Not to mention the fact that you have to pay CASH, and the US will NOT accept any canadian trade ins, leaving you to sell your trade on your own!?! hmmm???

but Ill sell you any Subaru for $500 over invoice until the end of May 2008.
so email me or PM me or give me a call and Ill set you up good!
1-888-513-5338 ext 207 dylana@goldfleet.com

Rule #1: Don't trust anyone that tells you "trust me".


There is info on 09s via press release. ETA and incentives, well that is what my dealer told me and I have been with them for 8 yrs. Perhaps because they are high-volume they get more access to info, priority on allotments, I don't know. We'll find out soon enough. I am on training this week, but need to bring my Outback for an oil change next week, so, I will find out then.

Not sure what you're talking about less options....there are more variations of vehicles (based on 08 MY) in the US than Cda, except some are features are options in US. Can you justify your statement?

Warranty coverage: Again you're full of BS. Warranty for US vehicles in Cda is covered by Subaru of America. Diff is, you pay for warranty service and submit invoice to SoA for reimbursement. I have this in writing from SoA because I wanted to ensure everything I read was in fact true. Don't believe me, contact SoA yourself. This approach may not be palatable for everyone, but but don't say there is no warranty.

Cost: $2K?? Invest in a new calculator. I was seriously considering an 08 last year so did detailed calcs myself. After taxes, fees (no duty on Soobs), and even taking into account the lost tax savings you get from trading in a vehicle in Ontario, and the cash discount in Cda, I still would have been $6 K richer by buying in the US for an identically equipped Tribeca Ltd. There are lots of on-line resources that give you details about bringing a car into Canada....google it.

Cash: Yes, so? If you read my previous post, you will see that I talk about cash (the $4 K discount) to buy here in Cda as well, so as to compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges are you are doing. In other words, I would pay cash here as well to take advantage of the incentive.

Trade ins: yes they do accept trade ins. I saw a US vehicle on a lot here in Ottawa. Difference is, you get lower value for US trade in than equiv Cdn trade in. So what? Sell it yourself, or if you keep it long enough the differ in trade in value between a Cdn or US vehicle will be negligible. Or trade it in to a US dealer when you buy your next US Subaru :D

So, who is full of it here? Convenient that you trash the US option without backing up your statements and are also a Cdn dealer who is offering to sell to anyone that will contact you. Hmmmm.....salesperson version of an ambulance chaser perhaps?

Anyway, I have wasted enough of my time here responding to your false stmts. If you don't have something useful to add, please don't waste our time here trying to sell us cars. Don't call us...we'll call you....NOT!

[henry495]

luck11 can you clarify whether the $4k applies to '09 Subaru Forester as well as the Tribeca?

Thanks.

[luck11]

luck11 can you clarify whether the $4k applies to '09 Subaru Forester as well as the Tribeca?

Thanks.

Henry, unfortunately, I cannot. The $4K was only in reference to the 3 variations of the Tribeca because it is the only Subaru of interest to me for my next vehicle. I will do my utmost to remember to ask when I'm at my dealer next week if you can wait that long.

Cheers.

[luck11]

Rule #1: Don't trust anyone that tells you "trust me".


There is info on 09s via press release. ETA and incentives, well that is what my dealer told me and I have been with them for 8 yrs. Perhaps because they are high-volume they get more access to info, priority on allotments, I don't know. We'll find out soon enough. I am on training this week, but need to bring my Outback for an oil change next week, so, I will find out then.

Not sure what you're talking about less options....there are more variations of vehicles (based on 08 MY) in the US than Cda, except some are features are options in US. Can you justify your statement?

Warranty coverage: Again you're full of BS. Warranty for US vehicles in Cda is covered by Subaru of America. Diff is, you pay for warranty service and submit invoice to SoA for reimbursement. I have this in writing from SoA because I wanted to ensure everything I read was in fact true. Don't believe me, contact SoA yourself. This approach may not be palatable for everyone, but but don't say there is no warranty.

Cost: $2K?? Invest in a new calculator. I was seriously considering an 08 last year so did detailed calcs myself. After taxes, fees (no duty on Soobs), and even taking into account the lost tax savings you get from trading in a vehicle in Ontario, and the cash discount in Cda, I still would have been $6 K richer by buying in the US for an identically equipped Tribeca Ltd. There are lots of on-line resources that give you details about bringing a car into Canada....google it.

Cash: Yes, so? If you read my previous post, you will see that I talk about cash (the $4 K discount) to buy here in Cda as well, so as to compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges are you are doing. In other words, I would pay cash here as well to take advantage of the incentive.

Trade ins: yes they do accept trade ins. I saw a US vehicle on a lot here in Ottawa. Difference is, you get lower value for US trade in than equiv Cdn trade in. So what? Sell it yourself, or if you keep it long enough the differ in trade in value between a Cdn or US vehicle will be negligible. Or trade it in to a US dealer when you buy your next US Subaru :D

So, who is full of it here? Convenient that you trash the US option without backing up your statements and are also a Cdn dealer who is offering to sell to anyone that will contact you. Hmmmm.....salesperson version of an ambulance chaser perhaps?

Anyway, I have wasted enough of my time here responding to your false stmts. If you don't have something useful to add, please don't waste our time here trying to sell us cars. Don't call us...we'll call you....NOT!

Oh yes, and I forgot to add. Most Subarus do not require any modifications to get them to Cdn stnds. An inspection at an authorized centre (ie. Cdn Tire) is required though. Soobs are one of the easiest vehicles to import. There are some dealers that will do much of the import paperwork for you if you're willing to drive far enough. One is Patriot Subaru in Maine who has a section on their web site specifically for Cdns, but I am sure there are more that offer the same service. We vacation nearby, so I will be visiting them this summer.

[hotgo]

If my 05 Outback XT had an extra two inches, I would be happy camper. 2 inches makes a huge difference when you have to drive with arms outstretched.

Every inch counts... so to speak.

[luck11]

Every inch counts... so to speak.

LOL!

[luck11]

Well, I haven't seen them yet, but my Ottawa dealer has 5 2009s. Supposedly the 08s are sold out across Canada. Lots in the US though, which probably explains why they are not releasing 2009s anytime soon.

What I have been told: Exterior is essentially the same. Now come with privacy glass in the rear (I though the 08s had this as well), and the Limited versions come with Harmon Kardon stereo. Nothing to suggest that telescoping steering has been incorporated :( .

No incentives on Forrester unfortunately. I suspect the reason is that since they come from Japan and would likely be subject to duties at the border if brought from US to Cda, there is advantage to buy in US. Supposedly 09 limiteds and xts are sold out across Canada. My dealer claims they have people who won't see their Limiteds until October. Whether this is embellished or not, cannot confirm.

Anyway, I am swamped at work so not sure when I can get to the dealer.

[henry495]

I went to a Subaru dealer to ask about the incentive. No Forester incentive but there will be $2500 cash incentive for '09 Outback and Legacy which are PZEV (Partial Zero Emission Vehicle). But not sure about the Tribeca.

[luck11]

I went to a Subaru dealer to ask about the incentive. No Forester incentive but there will be $2500 cash incentive for '09 Outback and Legacy which are PZEV (Partial Zero Emission Vehicle). But not sure about the Tribeca.

Outback is made in Indiana, therefore, no duty to come into Cda. Hence Subaru Canada feels it must offer incentive to offset the advantage of buying US. I confirmed again with another dealer that there is a $4K incentive if pay cash for the Tribeca. Last year it was $7K for the 5 pass Ltd, and $8 K for the 7 pass Ltd. I guess they figure that since they have dropped the prices, they can reduce the incentive by 1/2.

[luck11]

I have a B&W copy of the brochure in PDF from the dealer I picked up this morning, but don't think there is a way to post on this forum, unless one of the admins can do it for me.

[luck11]

I have a B&W copy of the brochure in PDF from the dealer I picked up this morning, but don't think there is a way to post on this forum, unless one of the admins can do it for me.

Folks, spoke to soon.....colour brochure is available at subaru canada website now.

[thenwhat]

Just got back from a Test Drive of 2009 Tribeca. I never drove a 08 model, so I can not give a comparison with a 08 model. But it is carry over not a redesign, so I assume it should be same.

I tested the new trim level called limited package that has a DVD players as the sale said that a 08 did not have it before. The new limited package is just one level down from the Premium level that only has a NAV as extra.

They don't have detailed specifications out yet because it is still too earlier. But, the quote he gave to me that is just few dollar below 50K after all the incentives for a out of door price.

And they don't offer any free maintenance services like last year. It is worth about $1500 as the sale mentioned.

But after I got back home, I found out that the Subaru Canada just updated their website. The 2009 Tribeca specification and price is up like luck11 said. http://www.subaru.ca/WebPage.aspx?WebPageID=11025&Range=Tribeca&ModelYear=2009&WebSiteID=282

Personally, I think it is a great car except I have a little problem with the leg room and it is a little bit of cramp for me just like the ConsumerReport said, and I am about 5'8". For the price, it is still too high, but I have not done any negotiation yet. I think I am still leaning to import one because the price saving even though no HID.

[baboo]

Personally, I think it is a great car except I have a little problem with the leg room and it is a little bit of cramp for me just like the ConsumerReport said, and I am about 5'8". For the price, it is still too high, but I have not done any negotiation yet. I think I am still leaning to import one because the price saving even though no HID.

Good call, i imported the 08 7 seater with NAVI last November, and paid roughly 37000 Cdn all-in.

Even with the new canadian pricing, the price gap is still quite far apart.

I am 5'8" too, but to me the driver seat felt quite roomy and comfortable, however the 2nd row is not as comfy as it should be, and I don't even want to mention the 3rd row.

[thenwhat]

I am 5'8" too, but to me the driver seat felt quite roomy and comfortable, however the 2nd row is not as comfy as it should be, and I don't even want to mention the 3rd row.

I think that has something to do with how do you adjust the seating position. If you raise and push back the driver seat a lot, then you should be okay. That is what I found out after playing with power seat for a while. As you adjust the driver seat this way, it just makes the 2nd row leg room smaller.

But if you push your 2nd row seat all the way back with 3rd row folds down, then your 2nd row has very big leg room now. I think that is just another point making the 3rd row seat kind of useless.


"Headlights: Projector beam Xenon High Intensity Discharge (HID) (low beam) with manual levelizer" Does 08 model has this?
And I am sure that the climate control for the rear seats is extra for 09.

[bionicbadger]

I have a 2008 I imported, I don't really see anything different in the new model aside from the dvd thingy, did anyone else?

Headlights: Projector beam Xenon High Intensity Discharge (HID) (low beam) with manual levelizer" Does 08 model has this?
And I am sure that the climate control for the rear seats is extra for 09.
The 08 Canadian version had the manual leveling HID lights, and the 7 seater had Rear Air Conditioning, cold air only, with 4 overhead vents and rear fan control, not sure if thats what the 09 has....

And I don't know what you guys are talking about with legroom, I'm 6 feet and I have plenty of room. If you slide the middle row all the way back those seats have have plenty of legroom too. I didn't buy a 7 seater because the back row seats are totally useless and only there as a sales gimmick. Maybe if you could fit leg amputees in there or something. Its not even viable for kids really unless they are small kids, then you'd need booster seats and would need small kids in the back row and middle row since neither would have legroom.

[luck11]

HIDs were available on 08s in Canada, not in the US. They are also available on 09s in Canada, but we have yet to see any specs on 09s offered in the US, and that is what I am waiting for. Personally, I could do with out the 3rd row (which I agree is utterly useless unless you have really small kids, and even then I would think twice about putting them in the 3rd row from a safety stand point) and DVD...I'm a bit disappointed they eliminated the 5 pass limited in Cda. If the 5 pass ltd is still avail in the 09s in the US, that might be my deciding factor.

Anyway, the print out I rec'd from the dealer differs from the Subaru Canada web site. Mine has all the specs and the following are the NEW FEATURES added to the 09s over the 08s:

Base Tribeca, 5 passenger: Splash guards

Tribeca Limited, 7 pass:

-splash guards
-3rd row seating (w 50/50 split folding 3rd row with driver and passenger access
-rear cooling unit
-touch screen monitor system (w clock, ambient temp, fuel info, driver record data, maintenance sche, calculator)
-DVD entertainment system (w 9" screen, audio video aux in, 2 wireless headphones and remote control)
-rear vision camera (although I'm not sure if that is integrated into the touch screen system, or through rear view mirror like other makes (ie. Ford)

Tribeca Premier (includes navi, sat radio): splash guards

So when you consider the additions to the Limited, you can see why the price did not change that much from last year, whereas there has been a signif price drop for the other two models (about $4 K). That said, they have also cut the cash incentive by half (from $8 K to $4K) which means for those looking at the cash option, 09 is not really any more of a bargain than the 08, except for those that were never considering buying in the US and/or paying cash anyways.

Only advantage I can see with the 09s is that the rear view camera is available without the NAVI package.

Cheers.

[thenwhat]

And I don't know what you guys are talking about with legroom, I'm 6 feet and I have plenty of room. If you slide the middle row all the way back those seats have have plenty of legroom too. I didn't buy a 7 seater because the back row seats are totally useless and only there as a sales gimmick. Maybe if you could fit leg amputees in there or something. Its not even viable for kids really unlss they are small kids, then you'd need booster seats and would need small kids in the back row and middle row since neither would have legroom.

The leg room I am referring is the room for my knee actually. Because of the design of the center console, the tight curve along the side, I found my right knee is tightly against the left side board of the center console in a awkward position compare to my 03 Accord. That just happened during the test drive. After I played around with the power seats a while when I parked, I found out that adjusting the positions make me feel better but still a little bit of cramp.

[thenwhat]

HIDs were available on 08s in Canada, not in the US. They are also available on 09s in Canada, but we have yet to see any specs on 09s offered in the US, and that is what I am waiting for. Personally, I could do with out the 3rd row (which I agree is utterly useless unless you have really small kids, and even then I would think twice about putting them in the 3rd row from a safety stand point) and DVD...I'm a bit disappointed they eliminated the 5 pass limited in Cda. If the 5 pass ltd is still avail in the 09s in the US, that might be my deciding factor.

Anyway, the print out I rec'd from the dealer differs from the Subaru Canada web site. Mine has all the specs and the following are the NEW FEATURES added to the 09s over the 08s:

Base Tribeca, 5 passenger: Splash guards

Tribeca Limited, 7 pass:

-splash guards
-3rd row seating (w 50/50 split folding 3rd row with driver and passenger access
-rear cooling unit
-touch screen monitor system (w clock, ambient temp, fuel info, driver record data, maintenance sche, calculator)
-DVD entertainment system (w 9" screen, audio video aux in, 2 wireless headphones and remote control)
-rear vision camera (although I'm not sure if that is integrated into the touch screen system, or through rear view mirror like other makes (ie. Ford)

Tribeca Premier (includes navi, sat radio): splash guards

So when you consider the additions to the Limited, you can see why the price did not change that much from last year, whereas there has been a signif price drop for the other two models (about $4 K). That said, they have also cut the cash incentive by half (from $8 K to $4K) which means for those looking at the cash option, 09 is not really any more of a bargain than the 08, except for those that were never considering buying in the US and/or paying cash anyways.

Only advantage I can see with the 09s is that the rear view camera is available without the NAVI package.

Cheers.

I am waiting on the release of 09 US Tribeca as well. And of course, the RIV update on 09 Tribeca.

[GOLDFLEET]

luck11 can you clarify whether the $4k applies to '09 Subaru Forester as well as the Tribeca?

Thanks.

It does not apply to the 09 Forester

[thenwhat]

Just got back from a local Subaru dealer. I was trying to make a deal with them, and I would like to see how much they can really offer before I jump into the state and buy over there.

Given there is a $4000.00 incentive and $750 grad rebate.

2009 Tribeca Premium Package. All in, they would like to offer around 49.5K. and the MSRP is 56.7K

And since the US 09 model is not out yet, but according to VB website, a exactly same (I think) 08 Tribeca - 7 Passenger Limited w/ DVD System & GPS Navigation System is $36,201+1000(HID)+210(RIV)+200(CT inspection)=36711*1.13=$41483.43+200(travel)+etc.. ..=42K.

I have just learned that the 3rd row seat of Tribeca is leatherette. And any surfaces of the first and second row seats where are not directly contacting with the occupant is leatherette too. This totally new to me. And I presonally had a bad experience with this kind of half-leather half-leatherette sofa at home, and I hate such thing. Other than that, Tribeca is decent built CUV.

I would not like to pay 48k for a Tribeca in Canada, but 42k is acceptable to me. So I think I am firm on buying a Tribeca in the state now.:?: :!:

[runawaytrain]

Hey Guys,
I've been watching this thread with interest but have yet to post. I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up yet, but I'm having trouble deciding between the 09 forester vs. the 08 tribeca. I'm just going back and forth.

Here's what I have so far, and I wish I could make up my mind. The other car I'm considering is the 06-07 Rav4, but apparently it doesn't compare to the 09 Forester, but the difference in price is $6K-$7K, so it's still an option.

08 Tribeca pros
- Overstocked in teh US. Could buy a used loaded demo model (Limited possibly with Nav) for $25K, making it actually much cheaper than the Forester ($26K+6% duty).
- Larger and more practical.
- Luxurious interior

09 forester pros
- Cheaper gas mileage (no turbo)
- Nice panoramic sunroof
- one year newer in the model year
- Compact is nicer than the Tribeca, which seems a little too huge.

Does anyone have an opinion, especially one that should sway my opinion one way or another?

[henry495]

Hey Guys,
I've been watching this thread with interest but have yet to post. I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up yet, but I'm having trouble deciding between the 09 forester vs. the 08 tribeca. I'm just going back and forth.

Here's what I have so far, and I wish I could make up my mind. The other car I'm considering is the 06-07 Rav4, but apparently it doesn't compare to the 09 Forester, but the difference in price is $6K-$7K, so it's still an option.

08 Tribeca pros
- Overstocked in teh US. Could buy a used loaded demo model (Limited possibly with Nav) for $25K, making it actually much cheaper than the Forester ($26K+6% duty).
- Larger and more practical.
- Luxurious interior

09 forester pros
- Cheaper gas mileage (no turbo)
- Nice panoramic sunroof
- one year newer in the model year
- Compact is nicer than the Tribeca, which seems a little too huge.

Does anyone have an opinion, especially one that should sway my opinion one way or another?

I recently went to Toyota to price the 08 RAV4 V6 Limited, it comes in at a lower price than the 09 Forester Limited (non turbo).

I haven't test drove the Tribeca because it is too big and not very fuel efficient. I did test drive the new Forester base X. I was surprised the engine is quite noisy maybe because it was a cold and rainy morning. The other thing is the 4 sp automatic. That's seemed to be outdated for such a new car. In end, I don't like it enough to trade in my current car.

As for shopping in the US, Forester is made in Japan (6% importation duty) and Tribeca is not. If you find the Tribeca to be too big, consider the Outback or Legacy, I think both are made in US.

[izzyzz]

How about not as many options, no warranty coverage, and by the time you pay all your taxes at the border and have any necessary upgrades done to meet canadaian standards your only saving about $2000, Not to mention the fact that you have to pay CASH, and the US will NOT accept any canadian trade ins, leaving you to sell your trade on your own!?! hmmm???

but Ill sell you any Subaru for $500 over invoice until the end of May 2008.
so email me or PM me or give me a call and Ill set you up good!
1-888-513-5338 ext 207 dylana@goldfleet.com


My portable B.S. detector just went haywire! Must be an overload. :lol:

[pocketneo]

Guys, I appreciate this thread because it allows us all to think together on what makes a good price and what does not, for the right car. So, here's what I found so far on a cash deal in Quebec:

1) 2009 Tribeca Limited 7-passenger no extra options, Canadian quote:
= $40,900 after a $4K cash and a dealer incentive about $1.6k.

2) 2008 Tribeca Limited 7-passenger from the US. Each US model, from I am told, have pre-installed accessories, and that is what is sold to the dealer. This makes the same model and year have diff prices, I guess. The one I saw was similar to the '09 above. I'm certain I can bargain down more.
= $35,265 + $350 processing fee - discount = $33,970 USD cash.


With respect to the guy who showed us the diff between '08 and '09 models, thank you!!! I think we all look to have this info and its not readily available.

I test drove these cars and here's some helpful comparative feedback IMHO:
- Acura MDX - love it, but too expensive. Arm rest doors were odd, and no moveable 2nd row. Drives great, gorgeous inside and roomy in 1st/2nd row only. I am scared of the gas cost!
- Honda Pilot - decent but too big (biggest of all I saw) and priced so-so and not attractive for 2008. I heard it will change for '09. Consider that Honda changes their models faster then other manufacturers.
- Toyota Highlander - too expensive (no haggling) and no WOW factor. It was nice inside, though, but did not seem to be great. It drove like my old Mazda Tribute.


For the TRIBECA's that i test drove, I test drove both the '08 and '09 models. I drove the '08 for a full day. here;s my review:

1) SEATING. I am 6 feet tall and have no issues with any seat. I tried them all. I have only seen 3 cars within this class that had 2nd row moveable seats and when you play with it, you can find the room you need. Remember that the 3rd row is there WHEN/IF you need it, not all the time. Consider the in-laws...'cause your kids deserve their 2nd row seat (lol). And for those considering the 5-seater...why not have the extra row? If you don't need it, the 7-passenger is a 5-seater with the same trunk space anyhow. I guess this makes more sense for my family.

2) INTERIOR. I found the '09 Tribeca to be very nice inside. The tough screen and rear camera are a very nice feature and easy to use, and the rear DVD is good for the kids. I would have opted out for this as I have my own 7" portable unit (which I bring into the hotel on vacations anyhow). The controls and cliamate control are nice and well put. The side compartment is fine and the additional audio and ighter/A/C controls there are great. The '08 and '09s look identical inside, except for some features in the '09 like the rear cooling vents.

3) EXTERIOR. Its much nicer then the '07s *yuck*. Its not tall nor wide, and this made a difference for my garage. The other cars I test drove are taller and wider. The MDX seemed the widest. The car has roof rails (length of car) but no arms (side to side) that you'd use for attaching a ski rack or bike rack.

Consider the difference between 4X4 and AWD. Of course, this is my own opinion, so no techies need correct me. The Tribeca and MDX have AWD and the others have 4X4. AWD allow each wheel to work independently. 4X4 simply makes all 4 wheels spin at the same time when the 4X4 is engaged. I drove a 4X4 for years that can be engaged or FWD when its not. On the highway in snowy conditions, you don't want to use 4X4 because when used, your car can have issues with stabalizing. 4X4 are good for straight and uphill like drives where all 4 tires are needed to move. However, an AWD will have each wheel spin based on what's needed to get your car to stabilize. Consider a C-like turn on a highway entrance or exit. The outer wheels will spin faster then the inner wheels allowing you to not tip more to the outer side of the car. It is also good in stabailizing when on the highway in snowy or rainy conditions as each wheel assist where IT is needed. NOW the bad side to AWD...more gas. 4X4 is engaged so you save when its not used.

4) WHAT'S MISSING? This car, IMHO, lacks 1 thing that I think would make it even greater...a Bluetooth so that I can answer calls in the car. The MDX had a nice one. Would be a nice accessory if the dealer even offered it as a factory install.



Hope this LONG post is helpful! I'll let you know when I make my decision. I am waiting on '09 Tribeca Lts pricing from the US. They can't ship for 3-5 weeks I am told. The Canadian dealers have the '09 and the guy I saw sold his 2 he had in stock 1 day after he got them.

Cheers!

[luck11]

Guys, I appreciate this thread because it allows us all to think together on what makes a good price and what does not, for the right car. So, here's what I found so far on a cash deal in Quebec:

1) 2009 Tribeca Limited 7-passenger no extra options, Canadian quote:
= $40,900 after a $4K cash and a dealer incentive about $1.6k.

2) 2008 Tribeca Limited 7-passenger from the US. Each US model, from I am told, have pre-installed accessories, and that is what is sold to the dealer. This makes the same model and year have diff prices, I guess. The one I saw was similar to the '09 above. I'm certain I can bargain down more.
= $35,265 + $350 processing fee - discount = $33,970 USD cash.


With respect to the guy who showed us the diff between '08 and '09 models, thank you!!! I think we all look to have this info and its not readily available.

I test drove these cars and here's some helpful comparative feedback IMHO:
- Acura MDX - love it, but too expensive. Arm rest doors were odd, and no moveable 2nd row. Drives great, gorgeous inside and roomy in 1st/2nd row only. I am scared of the gas cost!
- Honda Pilot - decent but too big (biggest of all I saw) and priced so-so and not attractive for 2008. I heard it will change for '09. Consider that Honda changes their models faster then other manufacturers.
- Toyota Highlander - too expensive (no haggling) and no WOW factor. It was nice inside, though, but did not seem to be great. It drove like my old Mazda Tribute.


For the TRIBECA's that i test drove, I test drove both the '08 and '09 models. I drove the '08 for a full day. here;s my review:

1) SEATING. I am 6 feet tall and have no issues with any seat. I tried them all. I have only seen 3 cars within this class that had 2nd row moveable seats and when you play with it, you can find the room you need. Remember that the 3rd row is there WHEN/IF you need it, not all the time. Consider the in-laws...'cause your kids deserve their 2nd row seat (lol). And for those considering the 5-seater...why not have the extra row? If you don't need it, the 7-passenger is a 5-seater with the same trunk space anyhow. I guess this makes more sense for my family.

2) INTERIOR. I found the '09 Tribeca to be very nice inside. The tough screen and rear camera are a very nice feature and easy to use, and the rear DVD is good for the kids. I would have opted out for this as I have my own 7" portable unit (which I bring into the hotel on vacations anyhow). The controls and cliamate control are nice and well put. The side compartment is fine and the additional audio and ighter/A/C controls there are great. The '08 and '09s look identical inside, except for some features in the '09 like the rear cooling vents.

3) EXTERIOR. Its much nicer then the '07s *yuck*. Its not tall nor wide, and this made a difference for my garage. The other cars I test drove are taller and wider. The MDX seemed the widest. The car has roof rails (length of car) but no arms (side to side) that you'd use for attaching a ski rack or bike rack.

Consider the difference between 4X4 and AWD. Of course, this is my own opinion, so no techies need correct me. The Tribeca and MDX have AWD and the others have 4X4. AWD allow each wheel to work independently. 4X4 simply makes all 4 wheels spin at the same time when the 4X4 is engaged. I drove a 4X4 for years that can be engaged or FWD when its not. On the highway in snowy conditions, you don't want to use 4X4 because when used, your car can have issues with stabalizing. 4X4 are good for straight and uphill like drives where all 4 tires are needed to move. However, an AWD will have each wheel spin based on what's needed to get your car to stabilize. Consider a C-like turn on a highway entrance or exit. The outer wheels will spin faster then the inner wheels allowing you to not tip more to the outer side of the car. It is also good in stabailizing when on the highway in snowy or rainy conditions as each wheel assist where IT is needed. NOW the bad side to AWD...more gas. 4X4 is engaged so you save when its not used.

4) WHAT'S MISSING? This car, IMHO, lacks 1 thing that I think would make it even greater...a Bluetooth so that I can answer calls in the car. The MDX had a nice one. Would be a nice accessory if the dealer even offered it as a factory install.



Hope this LONG post is helpful! I'll let you know when I make my decision. I am waiting on '09 Tribeca Lts pricing from the US. They can't ship for 3-5 weeks I am told. The Canadian dealers have the '09 and the guy I saw sold his 2 he had in stock 1 day after he got them.

Cheers!

No problem regarding the differences. I was lucky because the printout the dealer gave me is different from the online brochure. I think it is more of their marketing and sales guide, and it laid out the differences on the first page.

Got to admit, not sure I would put the Tribeca in the same class as the MDX. But whatever. Another vehicle I have been looking at as a contender is the Hyundai Veracruz. Test drove an 08 and was pleased. Believe it or not, ride was a bit stiffer, but I found it all around more spacious in front, 2nd, and very usable 3rd row, unlike the Tribeca where the 3rd row is simply useless.

My only concern is there have been some complaints on some forums about quality issues, and can't get in the US as Hyundai Canada won't honour warranty.

Then there is the Highlander which is priced higher, but better gas mileage than both...UNLESS the Hyundai comes thru on its promise to offer the Veracruz in a diesel version for 09, which is currently available in Asia. Given the price of gas, this might make my choice that much easier.

That said, if the SoA sticks with a 5 passenger Tribeca Ltd with all the features except a 3rd row seat and DVD (both of which I don't need), then it might be enough to swing my vote, given I could save some serious bucks by buying in the US (not only on the difference, but also that I can save $ by buying a 5 pass rather than a 7 pass).

Geez, too many damn choices!

[thenwhat]

I test drove the 08 Pilot and 08 Highlander. I don't like both very much.

For Pilot, it is overpriced for a 6 yrs old design. And it should have a more power engine. And 09 Pilot is out and priced in the state already. But in Canada, Honda.ca just starts to reveal some basic info and you have to google for the new Canadian price. And the dealer said it will be at their lot around Sept. (Too slow, like America Subaru).

I don't like the second row seat of Highlander, that design makes the HUGE highlander can actually only fit 4 adult, and it should be 5, the 3rd row seats are for one w/o legs like the Tribeca. And I have some problem with the driving experience of Highlander too, the wheel does not produce much feedback, it is extremely light. At last, it is priced too high.


If you think you can afford a top of line Highlander or Pilot, then RX350 should be a lot better, I think at least the price. (Not mentioning RX350 uses premium fuel) But the 09 RX350 has a long waiting list about at least one month. And 2010 RX350 is due out 9 months later, and it will be a completely make-over.

Gee, I never thought buy a new car is so difficult. Like Luck11 said, too many choices, but they all are too lame.

No comments about MDX, a well equipped one would be over $60k in Canada, it is way out of my budget so that I never test drove one.

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There are some dealers that will do much of the import paperwork for you if you're willing to drive far enough. One is Patriot Subaru in Maine who has a section on their web site specifically for Cdns, but I am sure there are more that offer the same service. We vacation nearby, so I will be visiting them this summer.

Thanks for the info on Patriat Subaru. Found out they are close to QC. So I guess I have to go to Montreal border. Wondering if there are more State dealers doing this for Cdns. Have to contact them to see how they manage to ship my Tribeca to the border.:)

[thenwhat]

Thanks for the info on Patriat Subaru. Found out they are close to QC. So I guess I have to go to Montreal border. Wondering if there are more State dealers doing this for Cdns. Have to contact them to see how they manage to ship my Tribeca to the border.:)

try this one.
http://www.subaruofkeene.com/international-customers.htm?gclid=CIWWgLny3pMCFR8SQQod1SLvWQ

[luck11]

Thanks for the info on Patriat Subaru. Found out they are close to QC. So I guess I have to go to Montreal border. Wondering if there are more State dealers doing this for Cdns. Have to contact them to see how they manage to ship my Tribeca to the border.:)

I don't think they ship it. You have to pick it up and drive it back. You may be able to arrange to have it shipped to your door....there are services that do that , but expect to pay a good chunk of change to have it done.