View Full Version : What is the best Simonz buffing machine to buy?
mistake
May 12th, 2008, 02:29 AM
I want to sand'/polish the red paint on my older car. People call this buffing.
There is a $99 model that is 6 amps and looks pretty heavy duty. they also have a $39 and $49 which are both less than one amp. I didnt see their cordless version at canadian tire. Im not going to pay $169 for a pc. Anyone know what the amps are on the cordless one? How much would it cost to get done professionally? thanks.
mistake
May 18th, 2008, 06:26 PM
will the cheaper 120 volt ones work as sanders?
AGR-1
May 18th, 2008, 07:02 PM
Have you ever polished and buffed paint on a car?
How much paint is remaining on your older car?
How good or bad is the condition of the paint?
Do you have enough experience not to go through the paint while using a circular polisher and coumpound?
mistake
May 18th, 2008, 07:32 PM
Have you ever polished and buffed paint on a car?
no
How much paint is remaining on your older car?
lots
How good or bad is the condition of the paint?
the paint looks good. just want buff off the top layer of paint that is oxidized
Do you have enough experience not to go through the paint while using a circular polisher and coumpound?
no. i think these are all random orbital polishers. from reading reviews people say that you need powerful sanders to buff the paint.
Asad_A203
May 19th, 2008, 12:45 AM
Have you ever polished and buffed paint on a car?
no
How much paint is remaining on your older car?
lots
How good or bad is the condition of the paint?
the paint looks good. just want buff off the top layer of paint that is oxidized
Do you have enough experience not to go through the paint while using a circular polisher and coumpound?
no. i think these are all random orbital polishers. from reading reviews people say that you need powerful sanders to buff the paint.
No Simoinz product is a good product. They are all cheap, underpowered, not even woth throwing pieces of crap.
Random Orbitals can buff paint; just no junk Simoinz product. Simoinz will bogg down and produce very little power when you actually apply pressure meaning it doesn't have the speed or power to perform any clear coat correction.
What you need; which is relatively safe for newbies is a Porter Cable RO Polisher. $159; but can perform most clear coat correction on most vehicles and your risk of burning through the clear is relatively minimal. The UDM (ultimate detailing machine) cost a bit cheaper, is 20% more powerful, has a built in backing plate comes with a free pad is the recommended one.
The Simionz is good if you want to just use it to apply wax (not what you want); but for actual clear coat correction you will need a PC/Flex/UDM at minimum. For near perfect results you will need a rotary but this is not recommended for newbies such as yourself.
Good luck.
Asad_A203
May 19th, 2008, 12:48 AM
I would not sand the vehicle with a RO polisher. You will burn through your clear in a matter of seconds. Wetsanding by hand is extremely skillful and risky process. You "buff" with abrasive polishes on a foam pad.
Tomy
May 19th, 2008, 01:41 AM
agree with ASAD
none of the simonize orbiters/washers equipments are useful..
i bought one before and after using it a few times.. the only thing i use now, is the buffing pads..other than that.. i don't see any use of the machine..
but hey..simonize do make great (cheap) washing products like mitts, cheap soap/tire shine..
mistake
May 19th, 2008, 03:46 AM
Thanks for the warnings. So, you are saying to buff the clearcoat by hand? Or do i have to remove the clearcoat and buff the actual paint?