Production 2010 Chevy Camaro Revealed!

[Engi-Nir]

The Camaro will come in LS, LT and full-on SS specs and be available with 6-speed manual and auto transmissions. Under the bonnet sit fuel-efficient 296bhp 3.6-liter V6 and 416bhp 6.2-liter V8 engines, which can run on fewer cylinders to improve economy.

It shouldn't just be a burnout king either, handling should be pretty good thanks to an all-independent suspension setup and a StabiliTrak stability control system. 4-pot Brembo brakes front and rear shed the speed on the SS. Weight balance is split 52/48 front/rear too, but the Camaro is a porker, weighing in at more than 1,700kgs.

The interior gets cool LED lighting, leather seats on posher models and dials and gauges inspired by 1969 Camaros. The US gets the car in early 2009.

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[hagbard]

Probably still get 12mpg like my old 1978 Camaro.

[mr_raider]

Pretty heavy for a RWD coupe.

[Evgeny]

Camaro might be a heavy car, but its still lighter than the new Challenger which comes in at almost 1900 kg (3700 to 4140 lbs or thereabouts).

I personally like it, but have a feeling this is going to be a fairly polarizing car based on its looks. Hopefully it does well if only because its the only prospect for keeping the Oshawa operation going, allbeit crippled. Its got all the right components to do well, now if only they'll finally put it on sale!

[KawaiiTentacleBeast]

It's not heavy at all for such a large car. The BMW 6 Series is the same size and weighs more. It doesn't weigh much more than a V6 Accord or Camry coupe.

[PsioniC]

That's actually some pretty decent power out of the V6, I'm suprised. Would've expected something in the low 200's knowing GM. Might be pretty sporty with the V6.

Any word on a price?

[B0000rt]

1700kg = 3 747lbs
Not bad, the GTO weighed that much..

I wonder if they'll volume the heck out of this like the Mustang? Offer the LNF for the price of the LLT and I'm sure people would buy in this day and age!

[mr_raider]

That's actually some pretty decent power out of the V6, I'm suprised. Would've expected something in the low 200's knowing GM. Might be pretty sporty with the V6.

Any word on a price?

Looks like a variant of the high feature V6 from the CTS. That would explain the heavy weight of the car. The old pushrod V6s were smaller and lighter.

[Justin]

The black plastic on the lower rear bumper looks cheap.

[PsioniC]

The black plastic on the lower rear bumper looks cheap.

Ya, but I dont think continuing the body paneling down there would look any better, in fact I think this looks better, even if somewhat cheap.

[VivienM]

Looks like a variant of the high feature V6 from the CTS. That would explain the heavy weight of the car. The old pushrod V6s were smaller and lighter.

Edmunds is saying this thing has the direct injected version of the HF V6...

[at1212b]

I don't think it'll do as well as the Challenger, esp since the Challenger is extremely new and hasn't been out on market in a long time.

It is a nice car though, and even the V6 seems like something ppl would actually want for its performance.

[Ziggy007]

gratz on being ugly

Fuel Efficient V8 engine? ROFL

No wonder NA companies are still epic fail, still don't get the demand just isn't there for that many of these cars, and putting "fuel-efficient" doesn't mean anything...

[Mattones]

Reminds me of a Mustang.

[B0000rt]

gratz on being ugly

Fuel Efficient V8 engine? ROFL

No wonder NA companies are still epic fail, still don't get the demand just isn't there for that many of these cars, and putting "fuel-efficient" doesn't mean anything...
Sure it is, I'm sure the highway numbers are in the mid to high 20s for highway ;)

[PsioniC]

gratz on being ugly

Fuel Efficient V8 engine? ROFL

No wonder NA companies are still epic fail, still don't get the demand just isn't there for that many of these cars, and putting "fuel-efficient" doesn't mean anything...

No one said the V8 was Fuel Efficient, that was in reference to the V6. Even still this car is not for people who are worried about fuel efficiency, they can buy Corrollas, Civics and other econoboxes. Look at how many Mustangs, 300c's, Chargers and other similarly classed vehicles you see on the road today. The market certainly exists, the retro muscle car market is still very much alive.

Just because you wouldn't buy one of these doesnt mean someone else wouldn't. There are some people out there that still enjoy driving and treat fuel economy and reliability as secondary concerns when purchasing their cars.

This is not a car for people looking to get from Point A to Point B while minimizing costs, simple as that.

Also, come on, what kind of grown man uses "epic fail" in everyday conversation. That's just embarrassing.

[Silver Bullet]

Outside .. pretty nice . inside .. ugly!

[B0000rt]

http://jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12/2008/07/medium_2680438538_b0ff8cef13_o.jpg

Interior still looks similar
http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Chevrolet/chevy_camaro_concept_manu_06_int_01.jpg

[radeonboy]

Outside .. pretty nice . inside .. ugly!

+1 :idea:

[Engi-Nir]

1968 Camaro interior alive on the 09 model.

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/3652/1968/68int3.jpg

[nalababe]

Outside .. pretty nice . inside .. ugly!

I actually like it...its not the same cookie cutter inside that you normally see today...

[Engi-Nir]

I actually like it...its not the same cookie cutter inside that you normally see today...

I sort of like it, and I am 28 :cheesygri well, the outside looks sick (in a good way)

[Odysseus_Maximus]

Looks good.

[wong8egg]

I wonder what is the price of gas by year 2010.

GM should abandon the production of this car before another failure.

[VivienM]

I wonder what is the price of gas by year 2010.

GM should abandon the production of this car before another failure.

The type of people who are in the (small) market for this car are NOT going to be swayed too too much by the price of gas...

The bigger concern is for the sedan variants on this platform. If those happen, they will be hitting the market at the very worst time...

[Frankie3s]

If only we were back in the days when gas was sold by the gallon and was not more than $0.75. Love the car though and I hope it does well. I hope GM gets this one right and puts in quality parts not like in the old days with this car's siblings.

[RTC]

No wonder NA companies are still epic fail, still don't get the demand just isn't there for that many of these cars, and putting "fuel-efficient" doesn't mean anything...

I guess Nissan and Toyota are other examples of "Epic Fail" too, since they just built brand new plants in the U.S. to build Pick-up trucks... and we all know how well those are selling.

[Engi-Nir]

I guess Nissan and Toyota are other examples of "Epic Fail" too, since they just built brand new plants in the U.S. to build Pick-up trucks... and we all know how well those are selling.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5193

Well, Toyota knows what it is doing ;) It shutdown the tundra plant for 3 months

Only thing GM screwed up on right now is not having a good small car, cobalt is ok, but interior sucks, and not a real competition to civic/corolla. On all other platforms, I think GM has a reasonable offer now a days.

btw, people that buy the Camaro have money, and are not overly concerned with price of gas. They are not your regular RFD kind of people where Corolla and Civic is the only way.

[mr_sandman]

I have a feeling those who are buying this vehicle won't care too much for the mileage ... and I'm not completely surprised it's a fat car, this is GM of course!

In terms of styling, I don't find the exterior that amazing, I've seen the picture so many times I'm just not amazed anymore. But I do find the interior very impressive visually.

[sixer]

Looks great in and out!

People buying this car have money and aren't likely to be on RFD, period.

This car makes a statement and can't be compared to everyday cars like Civic's, etc.

[Maximaro]

That's actually some pretty decent power out of the V6, I'm suprised. Would've expected something in the low 200's knowing GM. Might be pretty sporty with the V6.

Any word on a price?

ABC News said the car would cost about 40 000 to 50 000

[weedb0y]

I almost think that I saw this car in person near 401/Erinmills.

Going north a week ago.

[Kenneth]

I almost think that I saw this car in person near 401/Erinmills.

Going north a week ago.

Sure it was the Dodge Challenger? Looks pretty similar.

[ichpen]

gratz on being ugly

Fuel Efficient V8 engine? ROFL

No wonder NA companies are still epic fail, still don't get the demand just isn't there for that many of these cars, and putting "fuel-efficient" doesn't mean anything...

Go visit your local honda dealership to ease those irksome feelings.

There will always be demand for these cars. It's a niche market with small production runs but it seems to work out for GM. Where else in the world can you buy a 400hp+ vehicle for the price of a regular luxury entry level european V6.

It's the econoboxes that GM/Ford lose money on courtesy of your competition.

Like it, wouldn't buy it but I like it...

[ShadowVlican]

Looks great in and out!

People buying this car have money and aren't likely to be on RFD, period.

This car makes a statement and can't be compared to everyday cars like Civic's, etc.
:arrowu:

i'd love to see one RIP IT

[puff_daddy_58_99]

ABC News said the car would cost about 40 000 to 50 000

It can't be anywhere near that high. It's competing with the Mustang and Challenger, which aren't that high.

[Engi-Nir]

3.6L DI V6 300hp = 26 MPG HWY
6.2L V8 422hp = 23 MPG HWY

no clue what the city numbers are lol

1 Based on GM Testing 3.6L V6 DI VVT estimated MPG 26 highway, and 6.2L (L99) V8 estimated MPG 23 highway. Official EPA estimates not yet available.

[Kenneth]

3.6L DI V6 300hp = 26 MPG HWY
6.2L V8 422hp = 23 MPG HWY

no clue what the city numbers are lol

1 Based on GM Testing 3.6L V6 DI VVT estimated MPG 26 highway, and 6.2L (L99) V8 estimated MPG 23 highway. Official EPA estimates not yet available.

Pretty good numbers, better then the Japanese equivalents.

[B0000rt]

Pretty good numbers, better then the Japanese equivalents.

What Japanese equivalents? :twisted:

[YZFMax]

Seems like this is turning into another Japanese vs NA car thread. I own both a Japanese as well as a NA car and have owned others in the past.

Both have their strenghts and weaknesses. In my opinion, I prefer the NA cars over the imports. I find the imports too expensive to maintain when it comes to maintenance. The import dealerships rape you everytime you go in for a service. The TCO for NA cars is reasonable and they have improved in quality over the years. I have found the NA cars to be more reliable than the imports. Again, just my opinion.

Back to the thread... I like the exterior of the new Camaro, not impressed with the interior.

[KawaiiTentacleBeast]

What Japanese equivalents? :twisted:

A 350z is kind of similar and gets 24mpg highway. G35/37 coupe are also similar. *shrug*

[Engi-Nir]

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[Engi-Nir]

Nissan 350z 3.5 V6 306 hp 24mpg hwy
Dodge Challenger 3.5 v6 250hp 24mpg hwy
Ford Mustang 4.0L V6 210hp 24mpg hwy
Infinity G37 3.7L V6 330hp 24mpg hwy

camaro: 3.6L V6 300hp 26mpg hwy
6.2L V8 422hp 23mpg hwy

The 2.0L Turbo (LNF) will eventually be included also, probably end up getting ~225hp or so, given the weight of 3750lbs(with the v6), sky redline is about 3000lbs.

[mr_raider]

Ughhh...GM Industrial Grey Plastic.