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darius_m5
Sep 30th, 2008, 10:53 AM
I've started to notice a few more right-hand drive cars recently (mostly 91 skylines).
I've always wondered how these drivers make left turns on intersections? Wouldn't it be dangerous?
And do they go reverse into a drive thru? :)

UrbanPoet
Sep 30th, 2008, 11:03 AM
theres a huge inconvienence for drive throughs... so hopefully if your driving a RHD vehicle you havea passenger to help you out!
Otherwise... I imagine extra diligence is used when making a left turn.

skidz88
Sep 30th, 2008, 11:05 AM
Takes some adjusting but it's not that hard. I've heard of a few people installing a camera in the left headlight to assist in making left turns at intersections. Common sense would say that one wouldn't go through a drive-thru in such a car...unless you have a passenger.

IoannI
Sep 30th, 2008, 11:21 AM
They drive the same way people who drive on the left do. Only difference is everything is inverted. For those making left turns with RHD cars, it would be like people making right turns with a LHD car.

darius_m5
Sep 30th, 2008, 11:29 AM
They drive the same way people who drive on the left do. Only difference is everything is inverted. For those making left turns with RHD cars, it would be like people making right turns with a LHD car.

What would happen in a tough Toronto intersection like Ellesemere and Warden?
Sometimes you'll have a truck making a left on the other side, or an suv, or a minivan, and they won't angle themselves enough for you to peek. It's hard enough for LHD drivers sometimes.

Fire
Sep 30th, 2008, 11:42 AM
That's very very easy...


One left = Three right...

darius_m5
Sep 30th, 2008, 12:22 PM
That's very very easy...


One left = Three right...

Now do that in rush hour... in downtown... in the rain! :cheesygri

rfdrfd
Sep 30th, 2008, 12:24 PM
Isn't it against some MOT law to drive right sided cars in Canada?

Crisqo
Sep 30th, 2008, 02:52 PM
rightdrive.ca

Stock R
Sep 30th, 2008, 02:56 PM
Common sense would say that one wouldn't go through a drive-thru in such a car...unless you have a passenger.

Just go through the drive-thru backwards :D

KawaiiTentacleBeast
Sep 30th, 2008, 02:59 PM
Just drive faster.

KorruptioN
Sep 30th, 2008, 03:01 PM
theres a huge inconvienence for drive throughs... so hopefully if your driving a RHD vehicle you havea passenger to help you out!

The solution is to reverse through the drive-thru!

UrbanPoet
Sep 30th, 2008, 03:17 PM
The one thing that would suck... is driving manual. Some peoples left hands are pretty unco-ordinated.

Stinger
Sep 30th, 2008, 03:18 PM
Isn't it against some MOT law to drive right sided cars in Canada?

No, not at all

People seem to think they are not safe, however all it takes is a little common sense.

ICBC's silly statistic that RHD vehicles are 40% more likely to be involved in accidents is a load of propaganda.
The failed to address key factors. Their study compared a grossly disproportionate number of under 25 and male right hand drivers, to over 25 split male/female left hand drivers. As well they failed to include other factors such as the 21% low injury rate for RHD involved in an accident.
A clear padding of stats. I believe certain members have been in talks with them over their ridiculous survey in order to get them to admit the truth or do a proper comparison.

Driving both LHD and RHD vehicles myself, it becomes fairly easy to get used to. For left hand turns, if you can't see you don't go. Common sense. I will wait until the light turns yellow if I have to. Sure it may anger the guy behind me, I have had people honk, people pull around in front or behind me and go themselves - They can get mad all they want. My life and my personal safety comes before their dis satisfaction.

Sheek
Sep 30th, 2008, 03:24 PM
using their hands.



god i'm good

urban1
Sep 30th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Who do you think drives a majority of the RHD vehicles that have hit our streets over the past few years? Id love to see official stats from insurance companies or registries but from what I see on the streets its 16yr old to 25yr old males. JDM are relatively cheap when compared to Canadian domestic market cars so kids are able to afford more car (and more power) for less money.


No, not at all

People seem to think they are not safe, however all it takes is a little common sense.

ICBC's silly statistic that RHD vehicles are 40% more likely to be involved in accidents is a load of propaganda.
The failed to address key factors. Their study compared a grossly disproportionate number of under 25 and male right hand drivers, to over 25 split male/female left hand drivers. As well they failed to include other factors such as the 21% low injury rate for RHD involved in an accident.
A clear padding of stats. I believe certain members have been in talks with them over their ridiculous survey in order to get them to admit the truth or do a proper comparison.

Driving both LHD and RHD vehicles myself, it becomes fairly easy to get used to. For left hand turns, if you can't see you don't go. Common sense. I will wait until the light turns yellow if I have to. Sure it may anger the guy behind me, I have had people honk, people pull around in front or behind me and go themselves - They can get mad all they want. My life and my personal safety comes before their dis satisfaction.

l69norm
Sep 30th, 2008, 04:11 PM
Isn't it against some MOT law to drive right sided cars in Canada?

No, it's permitted in Ontario. You only need to have a RHD sign on the back of the car if the car doesn't have turn signals:



Vehicles with right hand drive

63. Every vehicle that is equipped with a right hand drive shall, unless it is equipped with a mechanical or electrical signal device as described in subsection 142 (6), have prominently displayed on the rear thereof, in bold face letters of not less than 50 millimetres in height and of a colour which is in contrast to that of the vehicle, the words,

“RIGHT HAND DRIVE VEHICLE”.

crono06
Sep 30th, 2008, 06:47 PM
No, not at all

People seem to think they are not safe, however all it takes is a little common sense.

ICBC's silly statistic that RHD vehicles are 40% more likely to be involved in accidents is a load of propaganda.
The failed to address key factors. Their study compared a grossly disproportionate number of under 25 and male right hand drivers, to over 25 split male/female left hand drivers. As well they failed to include other factors such as the 21% low injury rate for RHD involved in an accident.
A clear padding of stats. I believe certain members have been in talks with them over their ridiculous survey in order to get them to admit the truth or do a proper comparison.

Driving both LHD and RHD vehicles myself, it becomes fairly easy to get used to. For left hand turns, if you can't see you don't go. Common sense. I will wait until the light turns yellow if I have to. Sure it may anger the guy behind me, I have had people honk, people pull around in front or behind me and go themselves - They can get mad all they want. My life and my personal safety comes before their dis satisfaction.
Agreed on the very last part. I drive a sedan, and people honk at me when I can't see when I'm trying to make a left turn because of a huge truck or van. I just sit there, and ignore them. I'm not going to risk my life because the guy behind doesn't have some patience.

i3_dawg
Oct 1st, 2008, 02:55 PM
thats not true. JDM are actually a lot more expensive than domestic market cars. if you don't believe me u can check out torontojdm.com they're selling a 1993 eg9 civic for $6500, but you could probably find one for a grand in autotrader.ca

i would think people who can actually afford these jdm vehicles are between the age of 25 and 35. havent you heard a bunch jdm skylines got caught for racing on hwy 7. they were in their 30s. i think its on the toronto skyline forums if u want to read up on it.


Who do you think drives a majority of the RHD vehicles that have hit our streets over the past few years? Id love to see official stats from insurance companies or registries but from what I see on the streets its 16yr old to 25yr old males. JDM are relatively cheap when compared to Canadian domestic market cars so kids are able to afford more car (and more power) for less money.

urban1
Oct 1st, 2008, 03:29 PM
on the calgary car forums im one, theres tons of debate over JDM and one of the reasons many owners state for owning JDM is the cost is significantly lower. i know in the used car marketplace here, cars such as 300zx, supra, mr2, etc are significantly cheaper for JDM vs canadian cars - the steering wheel on the right generally means a significant discount.

again, im not too familiar with the JDM fan boy culture so I cant comment too much but am just telling u what i see.


thats not true. JDM are actually a lot more expensive than domestic market cars. if you don't believe me u can check out torontojdm.com they're selling a 1993 eg9 civic for $6500, but you could probably find one for a grand in autotrader.ca

i would think people who can actually afford these jdm vehicles are between the age of 25 and 35. havent you heard a bunch jdm skylines got caught for racing on hwy 7. they were in their 30s. i think its on the toronto skyline forums if u want to read up on it.

ES_Revenge
Oct 1st, 2008, 05:53 PM
I think, over time, driving a RHD vehicle on our roads, that most of these drivers would actually become better-than-average drivers. Simply because it's that much harder to drive these cars on roads designed the other way around.

I've driven a few RHD cars short distances (mainly Skylines) and I must say the manual trans shifting is tricky because it's totally backwards plus it's your left arm (which I guess makes it harder for a right-handed person like myself). It's not so much difficult to drive them, just really awkward.

If I actually drove one of these around the streets I would indeed go through the drivethrough backwards, just for the challenge ;) :D

urban1
Oct 1st, 2008, 06:20 PM
Ive read that at least here in AB, many insurance companies are refusing to insure many of these RHD JDM cars. Anyone experience this out east?

h2o-
Oct 1st, 2008, 08:52 PM
No prob to me except doing some left turn on some intersection

rgc97
Oct 1st, 2008, 09:13 PM
You'd be surprised how easy it is to adjust to RHS drive cars. It's more work to adjust to a manual, but not that difficult.

The challenge is switching back and forth between countries with LHS and RHS. I'm ok on roads, but I've caught myself in parking lots sometimes on the wrong side (no centre line for a reference).

iam_immigrant
Oct 1st, 2008, 09:47 PM
thats not true. JDM are actually a lot more expensive than domestic market cars. if you don't believe me u can check out torontojdm.com they're selling a 1993 eg9 civic for $6500, but you could probably find one for a grand in autotrader.ca



But that JDM EG6 will be in much better condition than that $1K Civic here. Plus the cost associated with getting/installing parts to get them the same.

bmnb4tches
Oct 1st, 2008, 11:46 PM
How do you think British and Japanese immigrants feel?


WHERE CAN I BUY A RHD car?

NISMO_GTR
Oct 3rd, 2008, 10:57 AM
Making LH turns is not very difficult; I just wait until the intersection is clear; usually there is a dedicated turning lane that is clear...

Shifting is not hard either; overall it takes about a day to get used to...

The good imports are rust free and lower mileage...

urameatball
Oct 3rd, 2008, 11:16 AM
RHD cars on roads designed for LHD is kinda silly.
It just makes life harder overall, and although you may compensate for it... bottom line is LHD in a LHD society is better.

I think it's just a fanboy thing... Cool cuz it's different, and now you're part of an exclusive club of fanboys.

ES_Revenge
Oct 3rd, 2008, 02:06 PM
But that JDM EG6 will be in much better condition than that $1K Civic here.
Right because there's no such thing as a car in bad condition in Japan and no such thing as a car in excellent condition over here? :rolleyes: Uh riiiight... Clearly you haven't seen the condition of the majority of imported Skylines.


How do you think British and Japanese immigrants feel?


WHERE CAN I BUY A RHD car?
Uh yeah but it doesn't matter how they may "feel". They may be missing driving on the left side of the road too, but that doesn't mean they should do that here because they want to feel like they are back home, does it? LOL.



I think it's just a fanboy thing... Cool cuz it's different, and now you're part of an exclusive club of fanboys.
I agree to an extent. Importing a RHD Civic that is only mildly different from a Civic you can get here is a ******** enterprise IMO. But importing a car you can't get here at all, that happens to be RHD, well that's another story.

AzN_RiverdaleCI
Oct 3rd, 2008, 03:00 PM
So....who actually went reverse at a drive thru?

UncleSteve
Oct 3rd, 2008, 03:55 PM
RHD cars on roads designed for LHD is kinda silly.
It just makes life harder overall, and although you may compensate for it... bottom line is LHD in a LHD society is better.


Interestingly enough, on the island of St. Thomas (US Virgin Islands), they use LHD cars, but they also drive on the left.

UrbanPoet
Oct 3rd, 2008, 06:13 PM
you'll also be pretty screwed when going into an underground parking garage.

iam_immigrant
Oct 3rd, 2008, 07:36 PM
Right because there's no such thing as a car in bad condition in Japan and no such thing as a car in excellent condition over here? :rolleyes: Uh riiiight... Clearly you haven't seen the condition of the majority of imported Skylines.




But how many Skylines are there and how many EG6 Civics are they?? And since the Skyline is so coveted and semi rare they probably take anything they can.

UrbanPoet
Oct 3rd, 2008, 07:49 PM
But how many Skylines are there and how many EG6 Civics are they?? And since the Skyline is so coveted and semi rare they probably take anything they can.

Well... considering that they are skylines, i imagine people driving them pretty hard... The Japanese love their performance cars

ES_Revenge
Oct 4th, 2008, 02:54 PM
But how many Skylines are there and how many EG6 Civics are they?? And since the Skyline is so coveted and semi rare they probably take anything they can.
Huh? :confused: So your reasoning is that since there are more Civics they must be in better condition?

Oh that must be why all the Civics on the road are in much better condition than say Corvettes or Ferraris, lol.

Hint: You've got that the wrong way 'round ;)

iam_immigrant
Oct 5th, 2008, 01:31 AM
Huh? :confused: So your reasoning is that since there are more Civics they must be in better condition?

Oh that must be why all the Civics on the road are in much better condition than say Corvettes or Ferraris, lol.

Hint: You've got that the wrong way 'round ;)

Here's my reasoning (all figures are fictional to illustrate my point):

-lets say there are 1000 EG6's and 100 Skylines (not out of line here, ratio wise anyways).

-lets say that the demand for Skylines are greater than that of the EG6 (again not out of line)

-wouldn't it be safe to say that we (Canadian consumer) will try to import all 100 of those Skylines and cherry pick only the best EG6's?


And no, I'm not arguing that just because one car is more plentiful than another means that it will inherently be in better condition. What I'm saying is, referring to the comment about paying $6.5K for a JDM Civic vs. $1K Civic here, that a Civic imported from Japan will be in better condition than a Civic here.

i3_dawg
Oct 8th, 2008, 03:48 PM
how would you know that the jdm civics are in better conditions than our domestic civics? I as far I know the japanese also deal with snow and salt. I mean bodyshops can actually fix up the rust easily with bondo or sheet metal and sell it for 5x times more because it's "JDM" and "RHD".

I remember reading a thread yesterday about this guy who moved to japan and bought a jdm integra ti, he was trying to sell his car to a dealer and he got quoted for $0 market value for the car. This shows that the resale auto market in japanese is low to none. They are smart enough to import cars out of their country, first making money and second reduce waste in japan.

Your reponse is very biased.




And no, I'm not arguing that just because one car is more plentiful than another means that it will inherently be in better condition. What I'm saying is, referring to the comment about paying $6.5K for a JDM Civic vs. $1K Civic here, that a Civic imported from Japan will be in better condition than a Civic here.

KawaiiTentacleBeast
Oct 8th, 2008, 03:54 PM
He bought the car for $1000 in the first place. Buy yourself a $1000 Civic here and see how much the dealer will pay for it. :lol:

Mattones
Oct 8th, 2008, 06:08 PM
Takes some adjusting but it's not that hard. I've heard of a few people installing a camera in the left headlight to assist in making left turns at intersections. Common sense would say that one wouldn't go through a drive-thru in such a car...unless you have a passenger.

hahha now thatd be a blonde joke.