Best Buy Ad ERROR: Ati Radeon 4870 512MB $194.99

[Keigotw]

Best Buy Ad ERROR: Ati Radeon 4870 512MB $194.99
however when you click on the link online it take you too Ati Radeon 4850
and the photo on the ad is correct but 4850
so wrong description

http://bestbuy.flyerservices.com/cached_images/pages/BBUY_1d0d5a72-34b6-4cdb-9ba2-24661fe4f871_150_122108_BS_p2_00X341011.jpg

http://bby.ca.flyerservices.com/cached_banner_pages/publication.aspx

So YMMV
good luck

[ASharp]

The 4870 doesn't even show up on the BB site when you search for it.

[Keigotw]

The 4870 doesn't even show up on the BB site when you search for it.

their search engine sucks
is here

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10108460&catid=20397

[neostylez3]

4870

here (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10108460&catid=20397)

price = $329.99

[TheHeeyyy]

This looks like a ymmv deal, because although the description says 4870 the picture is for the 4850. Maybe some people will be able to buy-it at that price.

[hotweiss]

Great deal if you can get it for this price.

[killoverme]

i'll try tmr =)

[ahsalloum]

Will attempt this tomorrow as well.

[lincoln]

Quick question. Isn't the 4870 for $195 realistically the price it should be at? I know the GTX260 is about the same performance and they run around $250. So post boxing day deals might be around this mark right?

[ASharp]

their search engine sucks
is here

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10108460&catid=20397

Ah okay. I just searched for "4870" and nothing came up so I just figured...ah well, thanks.


Quick question. Isn't the 4870 for $195 realistically the price it should be at? I know the GTX260 is about the same performance and they run around $250. So post boxing day deals might be around this mark right?

Realistically, I don't think so. $195 for this card is a damn good deal. It's certainly possible but it's highly unlikely that BB of all places would be offering such a nice price especially for a non-boxing day/week deal.

Cheapest you can grab this card right now is around 225-230 and you still have to factor in MIRs and such to get that price.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of this being a legitimate deal though. It doesn't seem realistic but, stranger things have happened. ;)

[13sundin]

someone should trying pming :)

[ahsalloum]

someone should trying pming :)

Where?

[Keigotw]

someone should trying pming :)


Where?

No Where
Staples don't have 4870
Futureshop 4870 is 1GB

[goonx126]

hold on, is this ad printed already? I think we'll get a much better chance if we have the paper copy of this. Then we can stuff them with the false advertisement argument and they're legally obligated to honour it unless they have a sign in-store that corrects the error. (which they won't if you catch them at opening time)

[Keigotw]

hold on, is this ad printed already? I think we'll get a much better chance if we have the paper copy of this.

Yes is printed
I got one that came with other flyers from Markham Economist & Sun Newspaper

[goonx126]

Yes is printed
I got one that came with other flyers from Markham Economist & Sun Newspaper

great *goes shuffling for his flyers*

anyone else up for a morning run at PMing BB?

[Keigotw]

great *goes shuffling for his flyers*

anyone else up for a morning run at PMing BB?

Remember They open @ 8am !!!

[dawn_g_dkny]

And hopefully you get it before 'laptop-tech' has a chance on his day off to run in to management and report this error whereby he gets one gold star and a chance to give his manager a ;):D:lol:

[equalizr]

Im tempted to try this morning but afraid of being turned away as im sure they have the right to refuse a sale:(

[will games]

Do they have special holiday hours in Toronto stores???

[hotweiss]

Remember They open @ 8am !!!

LOL, you have the true RFD spirit!!!

[Popular]

this 'error' saves 20 bucks at best in my book

[lincoln]

this 'error' saves 20 bucks at best in my book

Agreed, not worth sacrificing Sunday sleep time. ;)

[belowzeros]

Agreed, not worth sacrificing Sunday sleep time. ;)


and fight another snow party in toronto =/

[pricecheck]

this 'error' saves 20 bucks at best in my book

Wait, how? Isn't the regular price supposedly over $300 and this mistake puts it at sub-$200?

[freakyflow]

Not sure bout the $20 difference, but lowest price right now is ncix @ 229 I believe (with $10 mir). I still think it's a good deal if u can get it for 195 @ bb though!

[pricecheck]

Not sure bout the $20 difference, but lowest price right now is ncix @ 229 I believe (with $10 mir). I still think it's a good deal if u can get it for 195 @ bb though!

I just checked and it's $238 after $10 MIR. Still, it's a $40 drop so that's good. Even better if you can price match. Plus, no shipping.

[freakyflow]

@bb now, doesn't look like they have the 4870 or 4850 on the flyer... Wierd. They have 4850 on the shelf for 194 though, ans 4870 for 329

[BerinG]

Anyone try to get it? Its snowing now so im too lazy to go but ill try my luck online though

[BlueMax]

Wait, how? Isn't the regular price supposedly over $300 and this mistake puts it at sub-$200?

But if you shop online at a place like NCIX you can get it for far less than FS/BB's stupid prices. And no crowds!

[BerinG]

But if you shop online at a place like NCIX you can get it for far less than FS/BB's stupid prices. And no crowds!

Still not quite 194.99 though ;)

[BiGD33nS]

Quick question. Isn't the 4870 for $195 realistically the price it should be at? I know the GTX260 is about the same performance and they run around $250. So post boxing day deals might be around this mark right?

This card will have (currently dropping) a new MSRP Price or 199$ USD which is normally somewhere between 210 and 230$ CAD. So a 195$ deal in canada is unbeatable ATM.

I am pretty sure (YMMV) that a PM with FS or another store would be possible...if they don't take a look at BB's website.

[Stupy76]

Does anyone know if you can crossfire two different brands of 4870's (512MB) together? I have a Sapphire and this would be good chance to try out crossfire setup

[Snicla]

Does anyone know if you can crossfire two different brands of 4870's (512MB) together? I have a Sapphire and this would be good chance to try out crossfire setup

Yes you can.

[Stupy76]

Yes you can.

Thanks for the quick answer. I guess I'll have to head over to BB after lunch unless someone reports that it didn't work

[freakyflow]

Thanks for the quick answer. I guess I'll have to head over to BB after lunch unless someone reports that it didn't work

Do you have a hard copy of the flyer? Cuz when I went theyir flyer did not have the video card. Just a heads up

[icantread]

Yes you can.

To further elaborate, all of ATi's current generation cards can be crossfired together.

4850 + 4870 also works.

[KrayZeeMofo]

To further elaborate, all of ATi's current generation cards can be crossfired together.

4850 + 4870 also works.


true, but that will only effectively work as 4850s in crossfire; crossfire will only be as good as the limiting card.

[ben_liu]

has anyone gotten his wicked deal yet?

[hausner]

No luck in Anjou (mtl) Quebec BB store,GL to others !

[WildParadise]

No luck in Anjou (mtl) Quebec BB store,GL to others !

did they had an erratum? because if not it's advertised so they have to let it for you

[alwaysbuylow]

Since the MSRP Price for 4870 card is now 199$ USD, I would wait till boxing day, the surprise special might drop it to $150 to $200 CDN range.

[rdlangevin]

This flyer seems messed up - I tried a few items and some came up at sale price and some did not. For example the ATI TV tuner shows regular price but the Maxtor 750 GB external drive gives me the flyer price.

[goonx126]

Since the MSRP Price for 4870 card is now 199$ USD, I would wait till boxing day, the surprise special might drop it to $150 to $200 CDN range.

Where did you see that the MSRP is $199? It's $299.

[SomeGuyGG]

Where did you see that the MSRP is $199? It's $299.

http://icrontic.com/news/radeon-hd-4870-price-drop

Various sources are saying so. That is the US price of course. Should be MSRP of around $230 here.

[giorgio]

hold on, is this ad printed already? I think we'll get a much better chance if we have the paper copy of this. Then we can stuff them with the false advertisement argument and they're legally obligated to honour it unless they have a sign in-store that corrects the error. (which they won't if you catch them at opening time)

did they had an erratum? because if not it's advertised so they have to let it for you

Good luck with that. The picture in the flyer is of the 4850 and so is the product code (10108453). The only thing they're legallaly obligated to do is sell you item number 10108453 for the advertised price. I don't think anyone will be able to get the 4870 for $194.99, but I'd love to hear from anyone who does.

[sergers]

some stores are already dropped the prices, like newegg.ca
there prices are upto 100$ cheaper than ncix for the different 4870 models.
just price match to avoid delays from newegg (but they might reject the pm if it cutting into their profits too much)

[PrimoTurbo]

Offer is valid, it's printed in Bestbuy's own flyer. I just got the last one from Downsview location for $220 with tax. There might be 1 more there is some kid behind me who didn't buy it.

They will honer it because it's printed in the flyer, they didn't want to honor it at first because I had only a printed version. The guy found it in the flyer for me himself.

Freaking awesome, retail price is something like $329 with out taxes.

[WildParadise]

Good luck with that. The picture in the flyer is of the 4850 and so is the product code (10108453). The only thing they're legallaly obligated to do is sell you item number 10108453 for the advertised price. I don't think anyone will be able to get the 4870 for $194.99, but I'd love to hear from anyone who does.

Not really, images are always figurative so they don't count and code can be an error also. They have to sell what's in the description until an erratum is officially out and displayed either at the cash or at the product location.

[alwaysbuylow]

Offer is valid, it's printed in Futureshop's own flyer. I just got the last one from Downsview location for $220 with tax. There might be 1 more there is some kid behind me who didn't buy it.

They will honer it because it's printed in the flyer, they didn't want to honor it at first because I had only a printed version. The guy found it in the flyer for me himself.

Freaking awesome, retail price is something like $329 with out taxes.

As I said in another post, retial price for 4870 card has dropped to $199USD, so it is no longer at the $300 level, you only save $30 or $40. Newegg.ca has sold similar card last week for $238 with $20US MIR and free shipping. You might be surprised in Boxing day there might be better price than this. I would wait...

[PrimoTurbo]

It's an ATI model, not a different one. It won't go down much more then $50 plus waiting for it, etc. I suggest you go out and buy it.

[icantread]

It's an ATI model, not a different one. It won't go down much more then $50 plus waiting for it, etc. I suggest you go out and buy it.

I think all the ATi cards BB/FS sell are Sapphire. At least that's what I remember reading when I grab them at the warehouse.

[PrimoTurbo]

Correction I mean to say bestbuy not futureshop. Anyways I'm off to install my new powersupply and video card. :)

[PrimoTurbo]

I think all the ATi cards BB/FS sell are Sapphire. At least that's what I remember reading when I grab them at the warehouse.

It's retail ATI not Sapphire, trust me I have the box right here.

[icantread]

It's retail ATI not Sapphire, trust me I have the box right here.

I believe you, I searched high and low on those boxes and all they said was ATi. However I do remember seeing SAPPHIRE along the side somewhere. Just vague from my memory, I haven't worked in a little bit.

[PrimoTurbo]

Posting pics in 1 sec.

[icantread]

It's retail ATI not Sapphire, trust me I have the box right here.

And upon further reading, ATi brand cards are actually re-branded Sapphires. I knew I was on to something.

[PrimoTurbo]

Sorry bad quality, v360 phone.

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[Carbo]

FS/BB ATi cards are all Diamond

[icantread]

FS/BB ATi cards are all DiamondMax

Huh?? DiamondMax? The only thing Google yields is a Maxtor HDD brand...

[niceguy1234]

I think this deal is only in Eastern Canada, bu tnot in Western. I checked the current flyer again that I got it from Cambie location Bestbuy in Vancouver, there is non Ati 4870 there.

[takumi86]

it's there, check your 21-24 Dec 2008 National Mid-Week Flyer on the web!! lol

[Taknarosh]

And upon further reading, ATi brand cards are actually re-branded Sapphires. I knew I was on to something.

That is absolutely right. All ATi cards are actually manufactured at Sapphires' manufacturing facilities regardless of the third party company on the box.


FS/BB ATi cards are all Diamond

I was a Best Buy yesterday and the Radeon Card sold there had Diamond on the right side of the box.

[PrimoTurbo]

It's diamond, crap I don't have the right power supply. Requires a 750 Watt or better with two 2.x3-pin PCIe connectors...

[icantread]

It's diamond, crap I don't have the right power supply. Requires a 750 Watt or better with two 2.x3-pin PCIe connectors...

You will not need 750 watts. Something like 600-620 from a good brand will do it.

I know people with Q9550 + HD4870 1GB running 620W (or 600, I forget) Corsairs.

[PrimoTurbo]

Yeah I know, problem is I rushed went to factory direct and bought a $30 500watt psu with no pcie support. Oh well, returning it might not work but good thing my dads computer's psu is loud and old so it might not be a waste.

[icantread]

Yeah I know, problem is I rushed went to factory direct and bought a $30 500watt psu with no pcie support. Oh well, returning it might not work but good thing my dads computer's psu is loud and old so it might not be a waste.

I wouldn't use that on anything of value. What brand is it?

[ahsalloum]

Yeah I know, problem is I rushed went to factory direct and bought a $30 500watt psu with no pcie support. Oh well, returning it might not work but good thing my dads computer's psu is loud and old so it might not be a waste.

Sell it here. I'm sure some people wouldn't mind paying you the money you spent on it with some gas money on top.

[WolfDV]

I have my shuttle sp45h7 with 300watt psu

q9550 cpu overclocked to 3.4ghz
4x 2gb of patriot ram
2x 1.5tb hdds
1x 64gb patriot ssd
and a 4870 512mb gpu

everything runs great, one really doesn't need those 600watt psu's

[icantread]

I have my shuttle sp45h7 with 300watt psu

q9550 cpu overclocked to 3.4ghz
4x 2gb of patriot ram
2x 1.5tb hdds
1x 64gb patriot ssd
and a 4870 512mb gpu

everything runs great, one really doesn't need those 600watt psu's

Seriously? 300 watts?

[WolfDV]

Seriously? 300 watts?

yes serious, many people on the shuttle forums have similar setups

[alpwhite46]

I have a 4870... but i did quite a bit of research on it when buying it...

the ati version (reference version) runs 20 degrees + more than the one i have..

I bought the palit sonic dual fans version and i love the card...it runs great and at ideal temeperatures...

so when the people say you are not saving much on a 180$ card like this, they are ********ting...

I paid 370$ for this 2 months back and i don't regret it :)

[crackrabbit]

I have my shuttle sp45h7 with 300watt psu

q9550 cpu overclocked to 3.4ghz
4x 2gb of patriot ram
2x 1.5tb hdds
1x 64gb patriot ssd
and a 4870 512mb gpu

everything runs great, one really doesn't need those 600watt psu's

damn what brand of psu is it?

[WolfDV]

damn what brand of psu is it?

err, the stock sp45h7 shuttle psu. Its custom for the small case, a standard psu wont come close to fitting. its a nice psu, quiet and 80 plus efficient certifed.

btw, the price for this 4780 is okay, i think we'll see similar/better around boxing day

[Taknarosh]

I have my shuttle sp45h7 with 300watt psu

q9550 cpu overclocked to 3.4ghz
4x 2gb of patriot ram
2x 1.5tb hdds
1x 64gb patriot ssd
and a 4870 512mb gpu

everything runs great, one really doesn't need those 600watt psu's

Wow wtf...?
I thought 4870s at full load used up to 300W-350W.

[Popular]

^ 300W on that set up? ._. whoa talk about unstable.

[thomas997]

Wow wtf...?
I thought 4870s at full load used up to 300W-350W.

About 170W at full load, TDP is rated 225W I believe.

[WolfDV]

About 170W at full load, TDP is rated 225W I believe.

exactly even those are over-estimated, my system at full load on cpu and gpu, according to my kill-a-watt is drawing 268watt (this lower power efficency/consumption may have something the Dynamic Energy Saving Tech that shuttle also employs to lower overall consumption)

I have never had it draw more than that, and the system is fully stable, I've never had a problem at all, check out the shuttle forums for more examples, heck even shuttles own compatibility list has the 4870 as a recommended card.

another example of High performance ..low power consumption...my one mini-ITX build uses just a 120watt PicoPSU to run all this:

Intel DG45FC x4500HD HDMI mITX mobo
Intel e8600 CPU
HIPER HFC-10828-C2 ultra-slim heatsink
Patriot 64gb 2.5'' warp SSD
2 x 1.5tb seagate drives
4gb of Kingston pc6400 RAM

compared to my shuttle; the shuttle has a q9550 instead of a e8600, 8gb instead of 4gb, and then ati 4870 instead of integrated. The shuttle runs fine with the 300watt high efficency psu (180 more than the pico, that 180 is easily enough for the extra components)

[Keigotw]

It's retail ATI not Sapphire, trust me I have the box right here.


I believe you, I searched high and low on those boxes and all they said was ATi. However I do remember seeing SAPPHIRE along the side somewhere. Just vague from my memory, I haven't worked in a little bit.

Yes Atil does not manufacture their cards, Sapphire manufacture it for them

[Keigotw]

Offer is valid, it's printed in Bestbuy's own flyer. I just got the last one from Downsview location for $220 with tax. There might be 1 more there is some kid behind me who didn't buy it.

They will honer it because it's printed in the flyer, they didn't want to honor it at first because I had only a printed version. The guy found it in the flyer for me himself.

Freaking awesome, retail price is something like $329 with out taxes.

anyone else get it?

[beni]

These cards are manufactured by Diamond Multimedia, not Sapphire, not ATI.

It says this on one of the thin sides of the box, which were not photographed by one of the previous posters.

Picked up two in Ottawa after a little confusion at the cash about what card they are advertising.

[sergers]

i just got one at Queensborough Best Buy in New Westminster.

they have 3 remaining.

there are 2 flyers in the store. the 4 page newspaper size one is the one with the deal. the smaller flyer doesnt have it listed (has many more pages).

i walked up to register, and the person said it was too big of a discount for her to do at the till.
she sent me to customer service.
customer service looks up the codes on the flyer, they do point to the 4850.
she asks the senior person in customer service... hes like if it says 4870, have to give it for the advertised price....

no hassles at all.

i checked the discrepancy notice at the front of the store, this one isnt listed yet.

i also had 80$ in Best Buy GC that i had lying around for months too.

[PrimoTurbo]

I need to get a power supply for this card that has two 2x3 (basically 75W 6-pin) PCIe power connectors or even better one 2x3 pin and one 2x4 pin PCIe connector with at least 500W.

Has anyone seen any affordable PSU's like that? I got around $100 to spend, but seriously want to save money. I'm in Toronto. Thnx

[Haz]

I have my shuttle sp45h7 with 300watt psu

q9550 cpu overclocked to 3.4ghz
4x 2gb of patriot ram
2x 1.5tb hdds
1x 64gb patriot ssd
and a 4870 512mb gpu

everything runs great, one really doesn't need those 600watt psu's

Wow wtf...?
I thought 4870s at full load used up to 300W-350W.Shuttle systems have always had great power supplies. I have one with a 300W PSU running a 4850.

[dOOMYLEIN]

No go in Windsor... bla bla bla. I was offered a 20% off the 4870 that I obviously refused. GL to the others of you.

[SomeGuyGG]

I need to get a power supply for this card that has two 2x3 (basically 75W 6-pin) PCIe power connectors or even better one 2x3 pin and one 2x4 pin PCIe connector with at least 500W.

Has anyone seen any affordable PSU's like that? I got around $100 to spend, but seriously want to save money. I'm in Toronto. Thnx

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3276573&sku=ULT-LSP650

[mahjongmaniac]

their search engine sucks
is here

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10108460&catid=20397

same goes for FS... well, no surprise as they're the same

even if the search description is off by a letter, it'll return "no results found"

BTW, it might also be possible to apply SCOP to get another $10 off...

[sergers]

OMG!

i opened my box... and there 2 damn hard drives in there. no video cards. i got jacked.

i just went back and exchanged it, good thing i live 5 minutes away

[mahjongmaniac]

And hopefully you get it before 'laptop-tech' has a chance on his day off to run in to management and report this error whereby he gets one gold star and a chance to give his manager a ;):D:lol:

LOL...

well, he works for FS and not BB... so maybe he'll be a bit less worked-up over this error :P

[PrimoTurbo]

OMG!

i opened my box... and there 2 damn hard drives in there. no video cards. i got jacked.

i just went back and exchanged it, good thing i live 5 minutes away

That's crazy, an employ probably jacked it.

[anthony.d]

Picked one up from BB in Vaughan. Thanks OP!

FYI, the card is Diamond branded.

[Pr0metheus]

OMG!

i opened my box... and there 2 damn hard drives in there. no video cards. i got jacked.

i just went back and exchanged it, good thing i live 5 minutes away

that's crazy.

[kleptodathief]

for all u gurus: wats so good bout this vidcard? duz it score hi on 3dmarks ?

[freakyflow]

Picked one up from BB in Vaughan. Thanks OP!

FYI, the card is Diamond branded.

Are there any left in Vaughan when you bought yours?

[madpacket]

"Wow wtf...?
I thought 4870s at full load used up to 300W-350W. "

Normally when sites measure power consumption of videocards they list the total power consumption of the computer at idle and under load. It's hard to tell only what the videocard consumes, but I doubt the 4870 is anywhere near 300-350W under load.

I just successfully picked one up for $220.34 at the Kitchener Best Buy. It took a little convincing but they eventually honored it. They had about 10 left on the shelf (as well as a few 1024MB versions).

I'm not opening mine until I see what is available on Boxing day. If a better deal comes around (doubt it) then I'll simply take this back. Otherwise this is a good way to save about 40-50 bucks over what's available out west.

Good luck to everyone else and thanks OP!

[anthony.d]

Are there any left in Vaughan when you bought yours?

There were none on the shelf, but their system reported four in stock. Someone went to the back to find me one.

[MikeMurphy]

I just bought one from BB on Cambie Street in Vancouver this evening at the discounted price.

Not opening it quite yet, will see what Boxing Day has to offer. I really had my heart set on a 4850 or 4830 with 1gb of memory.

And yes, even though it appears to be ATi branded, it does contain a reference to Diamond Multimedia on the side panel at the bottom. Colour me surprised.

Cheers,

[fun4uoc]

I'll give this a try in the morning if they have not figured out whats going on yet.

http://www.only-the-best.org/pics/95e6834d0a3d99e9ea8811855ae9229d.jpg

[PrimoTurbo]

I just bought one from BB on Cambie Street in Vancouver this evening at the discounted price.

Not opening it quite yet, will see what Boxing Day has to offer. I really had my heart set on a 4850 or 4830 with 1gb of memory.

And yes, even though it appears to be ATi branded, it does contain a reference to Diamond Multimedia on the side panel at the bottom. Colour me surprised.

Cheers,

Do you really need 1GB of memory? It's used for texture memory and z-buffer anyways, size capacity doesn't really matter that much for video cards. 512MB is normally enough for nearly all games currently on the market, unless you use a very high resolution and with a 4850 you won't be able to play modern games at these resolutions with a good framerate anyways. I'd rather get a more powerful card then a lower end card with more vram.

Not to mention the memory bandwidth between 4870 and 4850 is significant, 4870 if I am not mistaken is 104 GB/sec while a 4850 is 31.7 GB/sec. What it means is that it will be able to drop information out of the ram of the video card three times faster. So even if you do run out texture memory the card will STILL perform faster then a 1GB or even if there is such a thing a 2GB 4950.

[goonx126]

http://icrontic.com/news/radeon-hd-4870-price-drop

Various sources are saying so. That is the US price of course. Should be MSRP of around $230 here.

That's 11 days ago. I'm checking newegg.com (american) and it's still $219+ atleast.

These are american dollars btw.

[PrimoTurbo]

I doubt you will find a cheaper price for this card brand new in Canada for at least another 3-6 months. Closest is $250.

[Homer88]

OMG!

i opened my box... and there 2 damn hard drives in there. no video cards. i got jacked.

i just went back and exchanged it, good thing i live 5 minutes away

This is why all these video cards should have that little "preview" window on the box so you can see the card inside...

[cisland]

can you return it for full refund after you open it? or it need to be BNIB condition?

[Viper98]

But if you shop online at a place like NCIX you can get it for far less than FS/BB's stupid prices. And no crowds!

I've found that FS pretty consistantly has great prices on GPUS.. in fact the last 3 GPUs I've bought I bought at FS for cheaper than they are online

[game_fanatic]

I've found that FS pretty consistantly has great prices on GPUS.. in fact the last 3 GPUs I've bought I bought at FS for cheaper than they are online

+1. A while back they had an 8800GT for $99. Still a great value, even today!

[Viper98]

+1. A while back they had an 8800GT for $99. Still a great value, even today!

2 of the last 3 I bought were those 8800s:lol:

[tester3000]

Can someone please post a pic of the card. Is it the reference design? What are the accessories included. This is freaking HOT!!!! Hope they don't put up an error notice before i can get my hands on one of these. I also have $10 in points or whatever they have at BB. so it'd be 184.99 for me.

[madpacket]

For those of you concerned of the difference an extra 512MB makes for games, have a look at this xbit comparison which sums it up nicely.

"http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd4870-1024_15.html#sect1"

As you can see on average, the the 1024MB version this card only net's about 3-6% performance increase over the 512MB card, not worth the extra $100.00 IMO. If you game at a higher resolution then 1900*1200 then you may want to opt for the 1024MB card or look at the Geforce 260/280.

The biggest disappointment of this card is the idle power consumption numbers. If anyone knows of a way to lower this via 2D software underclocking etc, please chime in!

[MikeMurphy]

For those of you concerned of the difference an extra 512MB makes for games, have a look at this xbit comparison which sums it up nicely.

"http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd4870-1024_15.html#sect1"

As you can see on average, the the 1024MB version this card only net's about 3-6% performance increase over the 512MB card, not worth the extra $100.00 IMO. If you game at a higher resolution then 1900*1200 then you may want to opt for the 1024MB card or look at the Geforce 260/280.

The biggest disappointment of this card is the idle power consumption numbers. If anyone knows of a way to lower this via 2D software underclocking etc, please chime in!

The difference between 512mb and 1GB varies between application, PCIe 1 vs. 2, etc.

I have no doubt that there will be underclocking options available right now, or in the near future. I can't believe the reviews im reading on this thing. Temps exceeding 100 degrees celcius!!!

[goonx126]

Can someone please post a pic of the card. Is it the reference design? What are the accessories included. This is freaking HOT!!!! Hope they don't put up an error notice before i can get my hands on one of these. I also have $10 in points or whatever they have at BB. so it'd be 184.99 for me.

what points are you talking about?

[CactusJack]

At BB South Edmoton Common, they had it known, and pulled the fine print line of "we have the right to correct errors" or something (they showed me the line in the flyer and were very apologetic), and to compensate he said he'd give it to me for $229.

I took one anyways, as that's still a very decent price (though not awesome like the OP) and I've got good use for it.

[mahjongmaniac]

what points are you talking about?

BB's RZ pts

checkout bestbuy.ca/rewardzone

accumulate enough RZ pts and you can redeem for $5/$10/$20 "coupon"

[kamzaf]

:evil:hi all

This is my first post, so hello to all


I ordered online yesterday night at 4.00 am, and choose the option for pickup at store at sherway gargen Etobicoke. The order went through properly ONLINE. In the morning I received a notification mail from bestbuy that my order has been cancelled. I have no idea why ? As if we choose instore pickup option, and if the stuff is available , then the order is processed by the computer ONLINE otherwise it will not accept the order.

I was busy during the day so could not go to the store , tomorrow will check with them. Their website still shows two available online and sherway garden in stock.

Regards

[giorgio]

I ordered online yesterday night at 4.00...
If you ordered it online you either ordered a 4850 or are paying $329.99 so you're missing something here.

[Decile]

:evil:hi all

This is my first post, so hello to all


I ordered online yesterday night at 4.00 am, and choose the option for pickup at store at sherway gargen Etobicoke. The order went through properly ONLINE. In the morning I received a notification mail from bestbuy that my order has been cancelled. I have no idea why ? As if we choose instore pickup option, and if the stuff is available , then the order is processed by the computer ONLINE otherwise it will not accept the order.

I was busy during the day so could not go to the store , tomorrow will check with them. Their website still shows two available online and sherway garden in stock.

Regards


Until you get a confirmation that it's ready for pickup, "ordering" it online doesn't mean anything. I've had a few cases where they simply couldn't find the stock on the floor (eg, they should have one "somewhere" but the CSRs couldn't actually find it). If I were cynical, I'd say they didn't feel like having to talk about the price error with you :razz:

[anthony.d]

Can someone please post a pic of the card. Is it the reference design? What are the accessories included. This is freaking HOT!!!! Hope they don't put up an error notice before i can get my hands on one of these. I also have $10 in points or whatever they have at BB. so it'd be 184.99 for me.

The unit I purchased has a cooler like this:

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-news/361006-techpowerup-powercolor-radeon-hd-4870-pcs.html

[tester3000]

The unit I purchased has a cooler like this:

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-news/361006-techpowerup-powercolor-radeon-hd-4870-pcs.html

Wow, that's definitely better that the stock cooler.

[Haro]

lol~ was thinking to PM @ FS..
did a quick search on FS website.. can't find the same SKU nor the same card..
However.. i did find a 1GB ver. selling for 339.99 web only price... :P

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10112374&catid=25617&logon=&langid=EN

[Keigotw]

lol~ was thinking to PM @ FS..
did a quick search on FS website.. can't find the same SKU nor the same card..
However.. i did find a 1GB ver. selling for 339.99 web only price... :P

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10112374&catid=25617&logon=&langid=EN

Yes, future shop online only have the 1gb 4870
not sure if they have 512mb in store.
and staples don't have 4870

[Taknarosh]

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103070

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-103-070-04.jpg

That's the card sold at BestBuy.

[ClayMan]

No dice at Bay/Dundas, all I got was attitude

[Aznek]

YES!!! so me and my girl go down to Best Buy today. Me and her look for the most gullible and least likely guy to so say no guy, to do the purchase for us.

Me and my girl agree that it would be best if she handled it by herself, while I distanced myself. The guy ended up checking on two different computers, and realized that it was actually the 4850. My girlfriend, persistent as heck would not let it slide. Of course she wasn't rude or mean or anything, she was just determined and polite.

After 45 minutes of haggling. The manager just came by and approved it and we ended up getting the 4870 for $195 + tax

The employee said he was so jealous of her for getting it at that price and wished he could get it himself for that price.


funny thing is, when we check stock for the store online now, it says it out of stock. When I checked online this morning it said in stock and when we were inside the store I counted at least 6 of them there.


So morale of the story, if you got a cute girlfriend or lady around, it wouldn't hurt bringing her along :)

[Haz]

So morale of the story, if you got a cute girlfriend or lady around, it wouldn't hurt bringing her along :)Seems to be a regular theme these days. :)

[PrimoTurbo]

Are they obligated to honor it? I am under the impression that even if it is a mistake if it's not too unreasonable and printed for public view then it's pretty much guaranteed. Since otherwise it's false advertising.

[wiebecj]

Picked one up at the St. James Best buy no problem - brought it to the front (they were really busy) waited in line for like 25 minutes. Rang it in, said $3xx - said "its supposed to be $195 and pulled out the flyer. Manager came over - said, fine whatever. Rang it in and was out.

[Chipbug]

Are they obligated to honor it? I am under the impression that even if it is a mistake if it's not too unreasonable and printed for public view then it's pretty much guaranteed. Since otherwise it's false advertising.

In Quebec, they probably have to as the consumer protection law is very favourable towards the consumers. In other part of the country, as long as they made a correction notice in store that everyone will notice, they probably don't have to honour it.

[gucci17]

Anybody have any luck in the Mississauga/Oakville locations?

[uddinf]

I bought this card for $250 a couple months ago (during the 15% off computer accessories sale).

It had the heatsink shown on the previous pages. It ran hot and very loud compared to the 9800gtx that I had. Because of that I ended up returning it.

But I agree with others who have said FS has good prices on GPUs. I bought a evga 9800gtx+ superclocked for $180 several months ago

[icantread]

They ran out when I was there, some other guy was trying to convince the manager to sell him the 1GB for the same price. Obviously failed. Oh well.

[ahsalloum]

They ran out when I was there, some other guy was trying to convince the manager to sell him the 1GB for the same price. Obviously failed. Oh well.

Was that at Surrey Central?

[evanx]

Anybody have any luck in the Mississauga/Oakville locations?

I got the card from BestBuy in Mississauga (Heartland location). Store was fairly crowded. At first I couldn't find the 512Mb version, so I brought the 1Gb one to sales and he checked the SKU on the flyer and said it wasn't the same. Told him to check the store stock and found the 512Mb version. When he scanned this one, he was shocked and he told me that it wasn't the same product and tried pushing me to another sales rep. After talking to the other guy, he concluded that the picture was wrong and the item description was right.

The original sales guy tried looking for his manager to approve but because it was so busy, he gave up after 3 seconds and just punched the price in as such. :D

[Dealll]

I'm pretty sure this card will cost less than $100 by next Xmas

[mcg]

YES!!! so me and my girl go down to Best Buy today. Me and her look for the most gullible and least likely guy to so say no guy, to do the purchase for us.

Me and my girl agree that it would be best if she handled it by herself, while I distanced myself. The guy ended up checking on two different computers, and realized that it was actually the 4850. My girlfriend, persistent as heck would not let it slide. Of course she wasn't rude or mean or anything, she was just determined and polite.

After 45 minutes of haggling. The manager just came by and approved it and we ended up getting the 4870 for $195 + tax

The employee said he was so jealous of her for getting it at that price and wished he could get it himself for that price.


funny thing is, when we check stock for the store online now, it says it out of stock. When I checked online this morning it said in stock and when we were inside the store I counted at least 6 of them there.


So morale of the story, if you got a cute girlfriend or lady around, it wouldn't hurt bringing her along :)

Can I rent your GF for a day? Just kidding :)

But meh, not worth the effort to save a couple of bucks. I am sure this card will drop in price soon.

[alwaysbuylow]

I'm pretty sure this card will cost less than $100 by next Xmas

It is possible.

[sheepdogexpress]

YES!!! so me and my girl go down to Best Buy today. Me and her look for the most gullible and least likely guy to so say no guy, to do the purchase for us.

Me and my girl agree that it would be best if she handled it by herself, while I distanced myself. The guy ended up checking on two different computers, and realized that it was actually the 4850. My girlfriend, persistent as heck would not let it slide. Of course she wasn't rude or mean or anything, she was just determined and polite.

After 45 minutes of haggling. The manager just came by and approved it and we ended up getting the 4870 for $195 + tax

The employee said he was so jealous of her for getting it at that price and wished he could get it himself for that price.


funny thing is, when we check stock for the store online now, it says it out of stock. When I checked online this morning it said in stock and when we were inside the store I counted at least 6 of them there.


So morale of the story, if you got a cute girlfriend or lady around, it wouldn't hurt bringing her along :)

So your saying, that you wasted an hour of your girlfriends and your time to save 40 dollars.

Give this man the gentleman of the year award.

[Aznek]

So your saying, that you wasted an hour of your girlfriends and your time to save 40 dollars.

Give this man the gentleman of the year award.

I guess your one of the people who couldn't get the deal.

40 dollars? the original price was 350 mate, thats 150 dollars. You could say that I could order from NCIX or Tiger with its free shipping, but shipping takes time and christmas is coming soon.

Also even if it were only 40 dollars, an hour of my time is very easily worth $40 dollars. And I'm sure there's many people on this forum who would love to spend 45 minutes to save even 40 dollars. After all this is RFD, what kinda forum do you think this is?

ON TOP of that, this was a fun experience. I've never ever won any kind of contest before and I've never even been able to price match something before. I figured even if we saved less money than we did, that it would still be an interesting experience. Jeez, it's not like its work or something, we saw a deal, wen't shopping, saved some money and enjoyed doing it. I'm sure I'm not the only person here that enjoys saving money.

[ahsalloum]

I got the card from BestBuy in Mississauga (Heartland location). Store was fairly crowded. At first I couldn't find the 512Mb version, so I brought the 1Gb one to sales and he checked the SKU on the flyer and said it wasn't the same. Told him to check the store stock and found the 512Mb version. When he scanned this one, he was shocked and he told me that it wasn't the same product and tried pushing me to another sales rep. After talking to the other guy, he concluded that the picture was wrong and the item description was right.

The original sales guy tried looking for his manager to approve but because it was so busy, he gave up after 3 seconds and just punched the price in as such. :D

You got the 1 GB card?! :razz:

[BerinG]

Just got mine at BB in Gatineau. The first tech gave me the 1gb 4870. But then when it scanned wrong at the cash, the cashier went back to another tech and he said "oh, its caus its the 512mb", so he gave me the 4870 512mb.. scan it again, wrong again.

Finally got ahold of a manager, all he told me was "oh well its not the right one, this is ddr5, the other is ddr3. We'll get you the ddr3, no problem"

So i told him, the problem isnt ddr3 or ddr5, you have the 4870 512mb advertised at 194.99 and this is what i came for. The picture shows the 4850 but those aren't representative anyway.. as far as I could tell, there isn't an erratum anywhere. He then told the cashier to check up front for an erratum and there was none so she got fed up with running around and just punched it in.

Always happy to get a good deal like this.. the 1gb would've been nice but i wasn't going to push my luck.

There was at least one other left on the shelf if anyone is interested. They might have an erratum this time around though ;)

[evanx]

You got the 1 GB card?! :razz:

lol not that lucky! I got the 512Mb one.

[cisland]

This might be a good buy for those looking for 4870 1GB?

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14080BD8093&vpn=21133-04-20R&manufacture=SAPPHIRE

Sapphire 4870 1GB for $289.95 and they still have the 50/50 shipping deals for $5.99 until Dec. 31.

[sujat]

Now that the online ad has a correction saying that the 4870 should be 4850, does that mean they will now have an erratum in the stores as well?

Just wanted to make sure before I brave the elements and head out towards the store? :D

[kuba]

YES!!! so me and my girl go down to Best Buy today. Me and her look for the most gullible and least likely guy to so say no guy, to do the purchase for us.

Me and my girl agree that it would be best if she handled it by herself, while I distanced myself. The guy ended up checking on two different computers, and realized that it was actually the 4850. My girlfriend, persistent as heck would not let it slide. Of course she wasn't rude or mean or anything, she was just determined and polite.

After 45 minutes of haggling. The manager just came by and approved it and we ended up getting the 4870 for $195 + tax

The employee said he was so jealous of her for getting it at that price and wished he could get it himself for that price.


funny thing is, when we check stock for the store online now, it says it out of stock. When I checked online this morning it said in stock and when we were inside the store I counted at least 6 of them there.


So morale of the story, if you got a cute girlfriend or lady around, it wouldn't hurt bringing her along :)

Or, if you go for the must gullible geek sales person in the store and throw any female at him and persist, he'll do it to get her whiney ass outta the store.

[freakyflow]

Successfully got one @ $194 at the richmond hill location. Took it to the cash, no hassle at all, girl was just like "oh, that's wierd" and rang it.

Btw, anyone want to buy a BFG 8800GT OC? Haha

[JTsang]

Success for me at the Coquitlam Best Buy. No problems whatsoever. Waited in line for a while (~20 min) because it was so packed, though.

It scanned at 300-something, so I took out my flyer. Cashier went to check with the manager (who had nothing to say about it) and this other woman, who just said "If it's on the flyer, you'll have to do it."

$218.39 later, and a "Sorry for the confusion." and I was out.

Now to see if I should open it or wait for Boxing Day deals...

[abc27]

MSRP for this card now is US199.99 or about CAD250 @ new egg

[freakyflow]

Success for me at the Coquitlam Best Buy. No problems whatsoever. Waited in line for a while (~20 min) because it was so packed, though.

It scanned at 300-something, so I took out my flyer. Cashier went to check with the manager (who had nothing to say about it) and this other woman, who just said "If it's on the flyer, you'll have to do it."

$218.39 later, and a "Sorry for the confusion." and I was out.

Now to see if I should open it or wait for Boxing Day deals...

Boxing day deals are already posted in the Boxing Day forum. No 4870 in sight.

BTW, thanks OP for posting this!

[Taknarosh]

So your saying, that you wasted an hour of your girlfriends and your time to save 40 dollars.

Give this man the gentleman of the year award.

Not to be rude since I'm a newbie, but I keep reading that it's only a $40 saving. Can You show me where it is possible to get it at $240?


MSRP for this card now is US199.99 or about CAD250 @ new egg

I don't think so, this (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103070) is the exact card being sold at BB.

Listed at $293.19.

[MonsterSound]

Not to be rude since I'm a newbie, but I keep reading that it's only a $40 saving. Can You show me where it is possible to get it at $240?
There are some at Newegg at $244 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&Description=4870&bop=And&Order=PRICE).
The one on sale at NCIX was $239 yesterday but the $51 instant rebate is now gone. Next best price at NCIX is $260 (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=31175&vpn=21133%2D00%2D20R&manufacture=SAPPHIRE&promoid=1145) now.
The $195 deal here is currently the lowest.

[alwaysbuylow]

Not to be rude since I'm a newbie, but I keep reading that it's only a $40 saving. Can You show me where it is possible to get it at $240?



I don't think so, this (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103070) is the exact card being sold at BB.

Listed at $293.19.

ATI has announced to reduce the MSRP of 4870 card to $199US, it is just not reflected in the Canadian market yet. You will see this card around $240Cdn regular price soon, when on sales expecting it is around $200CDN.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20081205200043_AMD_Reduces_Pricing_of_ATI_Radeon_H D_4870_to_199.html

[vincentfkc]

anyone who didn;t buy it can wait 3 more months and get the same price now
:lol:

[rimi]

The BB is just across the street. I can see it. 4 mins walking. It was really hard to resist...:razz:
I dont need it, I wanted it.

[meepmeepdeath]

Picked it up yesterday, I suggest everyone who are holding out on opening the box to open it up to make sure the video card is inside. I opened it last night when i got home, and all i got were 2 harddrives glued together! My friend and i had a good laugh and i did an exchange today. i think someone else mentioned they had the same situation in this thread so i suggest to double check

[Nook]

On their website, the error has now been corrected.

Is there anyways I can get the same card for this price? Like are there any stores that have it and will price match BB's deal?

I hope so, I need it for my new PC! :lol:

[sheepdogexpress]

I guess your one of the people who couldn't get the deal.

40 dollars? the original price was 350 mate, thats 150 dollars. You could say that I could order from NCIX or Tiger with its free shipping, but shipping takes time and christmas is coming soon.

Also even if it were only 40 dollars, an hour of my time is very easily worth $40 dollars. And I'm sure there's many people on this forum who would love to spend 45 minutes to save even 40 dollars. After all this is RFD, what kinda forum do you think this is?

ON TOP of that, this was a fun experience. I've never ever won any kind of contest before and I've never even been able to price match something before. I figured even if we saved less money than we did, that it would still be an interesting experience. Jeez, it's not like its work or something, we saw a deal, wen't shopping, saved some money and enjoyed doing it. I'm sure I'm not the only person here that enjoys saving money.

I don't need this videocard, I have the 4870x2(which I paid 500 for tax and shipping in new about 2 months ago), I wouldn't considering buying this unless it had 1gb of video memory.

I would say it is an hour worth of time due to the driving and etc. However when you added another hour to the experience since you added another person, your girlfriend no less, it makes the 40 dollar savings seems small.

This is not a personal attack, but if I told my girlfriend, could you haggle with with a gullible sales man, so we can capitalize on a price mistake worth 40 dollars. She would think I was cheap, dishonest and most importantly was using her. Sure you could inflate the value of the videocard to your girlfriend but then you would be lying to her.

1. Cheap because this is not a huge amount of savings.
2. Dishonest because I was trying to capitalize on a price mistake, which could get this gullible employee fired if it was not approved by the sales manager.
3. Wasting an hour of her time to get save 40 dollars on a videocard(thus putting a price on her time).

Is this a present for someone else? I sounds like this videocard is for you and really Christmas doesn't matter then. Also sure this whole experience might be fun for you since you got the videocard, but was it really fun for your girlfriend. She might have kept a strong face for you, but from my experience, pricematching(when it is not instant) or trying to get someone to honor a price mistake has just been ackward.

I know this is redflagdeals, but unless I am helping someone get something and thus saving them money, I would like to keep any cheapness I have known only to me, especially the pricing mistake variety since it requires dishonesty to work.

[freakyflow]

I don't need this videocard, I have the 4870x2(which I paid 500 for tax and shipping in new about 2 months ago), I wouldn't considering buying this unless it had 1gb of video memory.

I would say it is an hour worth of time due to the driving and etc. However when you added another hour to the experience since you added another person, your girlfriend no less, it makes the 40 dollar savings seems small.


Not taking sides but I'd personally try to get it for the the product it was(n't) stated for if I"m already there. It's a grey area but employees from BB sometimes play their game and scam customers by not honouring policies (ie PMing etc), so why be so "nice" to them? Of course, there are a lot of very nice and understandable employees who are out there for your best interests. So all in all, it's a grey area, debatable but me personally, I would've tried to get it since I was already there.

[vincentfkc]

I don't need this videocard, I have the 4870x2(which I paid 500 for tax and shipping in new about 2 months ago), I wouldn't considering buying this unless it had 1gb of video memory.

I would say it is an hour worth of time due to the driving and etc. However when you added another hour to the experience since you added another person, your girlfriend no less, it makes the 40 dollar savings seems small.

This is not a personal attack, but if I told my girlfriend, could you haggle with with a gullible sales man, so we can capitalize on a price mistake worth 40 dollars. She would think I was cheap, dishonest and most importantly was using her. Sure you could inflate the value of the videocard to your girlfriend but then you would be lying to her.

1. Cheap because this is not a huge amount of savings.
2. Dishonest because I was trying to capitalize on a price mistake, which could get this gullible employee fired if it was not approved by the sales manager.
3. Wasting an hour of her time to get save 40 dollars on a videocard(thus putting a price on her time).

Is this a present for someone else? I sounds like this videocard is for you and really Christmas doesn't matter then. Also sure this whole experience might be fun for you since you got the videocard, but was it really fun for your girlfriend. She might have kept a strong face for you, but from my experience, pricematching(when it is not instant) or trying to get someone to honor a price mistake has just been ackward.

I know this is redflagdeals, but unless I am helping someone get something and thus saving them money, I would like to keep any cheapness I have known only to me, especially the pricing mistake variety since it requires dishonesty to work.

u sound like "a real man"
but who knows, u might be a guy who can't get this deal after arguing with best buy employee in real life. :D

[Aznek]

I don't need this videocard, I have the 4870x2(which I paid 500 for tax and shipping in new about 2 months ago), I wouldn't considering buying this unless it had 1gb of video memory.

I would say it is an hour worth of time due to the driving and etc. However when you added another hour to the experience since you added another person, your girlfriend no less, it makes the 40 dollar savings seems small.

This is not a personal attack, but if I told my girlfriend, could you haggle with with a gullible sales man, so we can capitalize on a price mistake worth 40 dollars. She would think I was cheap, dishonest and most importantly was using her. Sure you could inflate the value of the videocard to your girlfriend but then you would be lying to her.

1. Cheap because this is not a huge amount of savings.
2. Dishonest because I was trying to capitalize on a price mistake, which could get this gullible employee fired if it was not approved by the sales manager.
3. Wasting an hour of her time to get save 40 dollars on a videocard(thus putting a price on her time).

Is this a present for someone else? I sounds like this videocard is for you and really Christmas doesn't matter then. Also sure this whole experience might be fun for you since you got the videocard, but was it really fun for your girlfriend. She might have kept a strong face for you, but from my experience, pricematching(when it is not instant) or trying to get someone to honor a price mistake has just been ackward.

I know this is redflagdeals, but unless I am helping someone get something and thus saving them money, I would like to keep any cheapness I have known only to me, especially the pricing mistake variety since it requires dishonesty to work.

I'm sure it wasn't your intent to personally attack me, but that was kind of rude.

I might be offended if it were true, however cheapness means nothing to me and my lady. I'm a poor college student and she's got a great job, if she was even slightly concerned about money or cheapness she would not be with me. She actually bought the card for me so, I'm happy she saved the money, I guess I forgot to mention that part.

Also, I'd be extremely guilty if the kid got fired, however I know there is no way in hell that kid would get fire for honouring an ad's mistake. In the end the manager just walked by quick and Ok'd it, he didn't even say anything.





I don't think so, this (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103070) is the exact card being sold at BB.

Listed at $293.19.

Thats the card mate, it looks exactly the same as mine

[RFD_Paul]

Although I don't need this card, I tried to get it and was denied. I was going to try again at another location that I would be close to today but decided that I don't really want it. It is only 512 MB and the price is not that great compared to the same card from online retailers such as Tiger Direct selling it for $180.http://http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4097752&CatId=1826

What I do believe is that BB is in violation of the Competition Bureau requirements and would likely be fined for refusing to honour their advertised price without erratum correctin. If anyone wishes to pursue this, PM me and I would be willing to add my statement of their refusal to sell to me at that price.

http://http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/eic/site/cb-bc.nsf/eng/00522.html

They create a lot of badwill with such arbitrary decisions in areas like this and price matching. I use these examples to demonstrate to people why they should not buy BB warranty. It is a strong statement of their (non)intentions when they will not even honour their own flyer advertised prices and price match policies. It becomes not believable that they will honour their warranty 3 years from today - if they still exist.

FTR, I have been very successful in these areas but I object to the arbitrariness of the processes as implemented.

[RFD_Paul]

http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102810

Newegg $200 with free shipping ($180 after MIR).

[M-theory]

http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102810

Newegg $200 with free shipping ($180 after MIR).

american

[sf1]

http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102810

Newegg $200 with free shipping ($180 after MIR).

thats US deal not canada.

[Keigotw]

I don't need this videocard, I have the 4870x2(which I paid 500 for tax and shipping in new about 2 months ago), I wouldn't considering buying this unless it had 1gb of video memory.

I would say it is an hour worth of time due to the driving and etc. However when you added another hour to the experience since you added another person, your girlfriend no less, it makes the 40 dollar savings seems small.

This is not a personal attack, but if I told my girlfriend, could you haggle with with a gullible sales man, so we can capitalize on a price mistake worth 40 dollars. She would think I was cheap, dishonest and most importantly was using her. Sure you could inflate the value of the videocard to your girlfriend but then you would be lying to her.

1. Cheap because this is not a huge amount of savings.
2. Dishonest because I was trying to capitalize on a price mistake, which could get this gullible employee fired if it was not approved by the sales manager.
3. Wasting an hour of her time to get save 40 dollars on a videocard(thus putting a price on her time).

Is this a present for someone else? I sounds like this videocard is for you and really Christmas doesn't matter then. Also sure this whole experience might be fun for you since you got the videocard, but was it really fun for your girlfriend. She might have kept a strong face for you, but from my experience, pricematching(when it is not instant) or trying to get someone to honor a price mistake has just been ackward.

I know this is redflagdeals, but unless I am helping someone get something and thus saving them money, I would like to keep any cheapness I have known only to me, especially the pricing mistake variety since it requires dishonesty to work.

No taking any sides, but I see you keep saying $40, is not $40

4870 512mb is $329.99 http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10108460&catid=20397
So 329.99- 194.99 = $135 Dollars saved before tax
not bad for waiting 1 hour if you ask me.

edit: I see where you get the $40 from now, but that is from a different store and different brand of card. Same chipset but still, not really a same comparison

[RFD_Paul]

My apologies for the newegg US link. The tigerdirect link is Canadian however. The only point of these is that the savings is not as great as $135 since at that price BestBuy is not the best price anyways.

It still is a deal. If it were the 1GB model, I'd be all over it until I successfully got it. As it is, I can't be bothered other than to offer to help someone who wishes to see BB finded for Competition Bureau violations.

[alwaysbuylow]

No taking any sides, but I see you keep saying $40, is not $40

4870 512mb is $329.99 http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10108460&catid=20397
So 329.99- 194.99 = $135 Dollars saved before tax
not bad for waiting 1 hour if you ask me.

edit: I see where you get the $40 from now, but that is from a different store and different brand of card. Same chipset but still, not really a same comparison

This is an inflated price, it has not reflected the $100US price drop by ATI. In reality, only $40 to $50 saving.

[freakyflow]

Thats the card mate, it looks exactly the same as mine

That's odd, cuz my card looks like this:

http://devicedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/ati-radeon-hd-4870.jpg

not this:

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-103-070-02.jpg

Can anyone confirm?

[Aznek]

That's odd, cuz my card looks like this:

http://devicedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/ati-radeon-hd-4870.jpg

not this:

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-103-070-02.jpg

Can anyone confirm?

Strange, I've got that diamond one. In the ad the retail box looks exactly the same except its positioned so you cannot see the Diamond Logo. (Not the misprinted ad but the 4870 on the website retail box)

I'd take a photo of my card with my cellphone but I can't find the connector.

Anyways like the bottom photo, my card has a wire running from the pcb to the fan I believe, and at some points the wire touches the heatsink. is this bad? cuz I dont want the hot heatsink to melt my wire or something

[freakyflow]

Strange, I've got that diamond one. In the ad the retail box looks exactly the same except its positioned so you cannot see the Diamond Logo. (Not the misprinted ad but the 4870 on the website retail box)

I'd take a photo of my card with my cellphone but I can't find the connector.

Anyways like the bottom photo, my card has a wire running from the pcb to the fan I believe, and at some points the wire touches the heatsink. is this bad? cuz I dont want the hot heatsink to melt my wire or something

Hmm...you might have gotten a revised version. I believe mine is the original ATI reference design whereas yours is the improved version (lower temps). Would you be able to get a temperature reading on yours? Mine is about 78c on idle.

It should be ok if the wire touches the heatsink, I might be worried if it touches the actual circuitboard tho as these cards run pretty damn hot. haha

[JTsang]

Mine looks like the bottom one too. I was expecting the top one, but when I opened it up... it wasn't.

It's strange because I thought the bottom one was for the 1 GB models...? That's what I see on NCIX, anyway, but there IS one on Newegg.ca that looks like that but is 512MB. I'm so confused because the box is different too. :confused:

[Keigotw]

That's odd, cuz my card looks like this:

http://devicedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/ati-radeon-hd-4870.jpg

not this:

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-103-070-02.jpg

Can anyone confirm?

could be that ATI run out of the heatsink with heat pipe
so they put the one you got now, which i think it has heat pipe also inside that enclosure

[anthony.d]

Hmm...you might have gotten a revised version. I believe mine is the original ATI reference design whereas yours is the improved version (lower temps). Would you be able to get a temperature reading on yours? Mine is about 78c on idle.

It should be ok if the wire touches the heatsink, I might be worried if it touches the actual circuitboard tho as these cards run pretty damn hot. haha

I had to install a second fan in my case (damn these things run hot!). My idle temp is ~36C and load is ~60C. Before the fan the idle was ~55C and load was ~70C.

I'm glad to have better performance, but I wasn't expecting all the additional power usage and heat generation...

[Cisco KId]

I had to install a second fan in my case (damn these things run hot!). My idle temp is ~36C and load is ~60C. Before the fan the idle was ~55C and load was ~70C.

I'm glad to have better performance, but I wasn't expecting all the additional power usage and heat generation...

Shoulda gone NV and a 260GTX, plus you gotta deal with god awful CCC, but hey for the price you can not complain

[Taknarosh]

Shoulda gone NV and a 260GTX, plus you gotta deal with god awful CCC, but hey for the price you can not complain

Are you kidding me? This post reeks of nVidia fanboyism. Anyone who gives a damn about the driver control panel it will be most likely be overclocking and anyone who does OC will want to use third party drivers/control panel. So in the end for the casual user just looking to boost their FPS the ATi CCC is fine.

[Nook]

Anybody hoping to get a price match can maybe price match this at CC: http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?langauage=en-ca&product=2516481

When printed and not viewed online, the correction is not present:
http://bestbuy.flyerservices.com/cached_images/pages/BBUY_1d0d5a72-34b6-4cdb-9ba2-24661fe4f871_150_122108_BS_p2_00X341011.jpg


I want to try it but I have to babysit today. :o

[Aznek]

Hmm...you might have gotten a revised version. I believe mine is the original ATI reference design whereas yours is the improved version (lower temps). Would you be able to get a temperature reading on yours? Mine is about 78c on idle.

It should be ok if the wire touches the heatsink, I might be worried if it touches the actual circuitboard tho as these cards run pretty damn hot. haha

Sry man, I haven't even tested the card yet. I plan to build a pc but this card is the only part I have so far LOL.



I had to install a second fan in my case (damn these things run hot!). My idle temp is ~36C and load is ~60C. Before the fan the idle was ~55C and load was ~70C.

I'm glad to have better performance, but I wasn't expecting all the additional power usage and heat generation...

Jesus, I duno much bout temps, but if you had to install a second fan thats probably bad hahahah. Which one did you get? The reference design or the Diamond one without the case?



Shoulda gone NV and a 260GTX, plus you gotta deal with god awful CCC, but hey for the price you can not complain

Lol, I've always wanted to try NV but I never got to. Actually scratch that, the gpu in my ps3 is an NV lol. Anyway, I've always wanted to get a Geforce card and was planning to, with a 9800gt until this deal came along.

[bolmsted]

hold on, is this ad printed already? I think we'll get a much better chance if we have the paper copy of this. Then we can stuff them with the false advertisement argument and they're legally obligated to honour it unless they have a sign in-store that corrects the error. (which they won't if you catch them at opening time)

I tried to argue this with FutureShop when I bought a chest freezer in the summer... it was supposedly regular $249 (when I went to buy it), I saw an ad from two weeks previous that had it for like $119 and then the regular price was lower than the $249 price. I went in and the price was like $50 off ($199) and I asked how can they justify not giving to me for $119 when the regular price was even less than the sale price. I think it must have been a typo as they wouldn't give to me.

[messerchmidt]

I got the deal @ the sherway BB.

Had to pull up the add on a MAC, and then get the manager in on it, but they gave it to me.

[mahjongmaniac]

Until you get a confirmation that it's ready for pickup, "ordering" it online doesn't mean anything. I've had a few cases where they simply couldn't find the stock on the floor (eg, they should have one "somewhere" but the CSRs couldn't actually find it). If I were cynical, I'd say they didn't feel like having to talk about the price error with you :razz:

or, maybe that store in particular realized the error, and are cancelling all ISPU orders for it

[PrimoTurbo]

I finally got a power supply to get this card working. A Cooler Master Extreme Power Duo 600 Watt, which had the 2 PCIe connectors needed for the card to be powered.

At first I had some issues, the problem was with the power supply. I used an old power cord for it, connected all the 24 pins (original 250watt power supply only used 20) and had a cable stuck in the fan of the power supply which was probably the issue. I noticed a heavy plastic smell, my temps for video card were over 80*c if not more and I was getting constant VPU Recovery Errors on Crysis and FarCry2. I checked my CPU temperatures and they were at 56*C, which is way to high for normal.

Anyways it was my fault for not watching the wires, after I replaced the power cord, connected only 20 pins and took out the wire stuck in the fan everything was working perfect.

This is after using the computer for web browsing, even after gaming temperatures don't go much higher maybe 5-6*C more for the video card and 2-3*C for the CPU.
http://xs134.xs.to/xs134/08522/gpuz914.jpg
http://xs134.xs.to/xs134/08522/speedfan878.jpg

Mine looks like this:
http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-103-070-02.jpg

Is it a revised version?

[mahjongmaniac]

Not taking sides but I'd personally try to get it for the the product it was(n't) stated for if I"m already there. It's a grey area but employees from BB sometimes play their game and scam customers by not honouring policies (ie PMing etc), so why be so "nice" to them? Of course, there are a lot of very nice and understandable employees who are out there for your best interests. So all in all, it's a grey area, debatable but me personally, I would've tried to get it since I was already there.

^ if your PM is completely legit, you should be able to come up w/ arguments to counter every one of their (rather false) excuses
and hence there should be no reason you can't walk out of the store w/ a successful PM

and not to mention coming prepared comes a long way...

---------


No taking any sides, but I see you keep saying $40, is not $40

4870 512mb is $329.99 http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10108460&catid=20397
So 329.99- 194.99 = $135 Dollars saved before tax
not bad for waiting 1 hour if you ask me.

edit: I see where you get the $40 from now, but that is from a different store and different brand of card. Same chipset but still, not really a same comparison

you'd have to compare reg. price at BB vs. reg. price at other local compy stores (which are usually much cheaper) to determine exactly how much you're saving

FS/BB/stooples are notorious for inflated reg. prices. this shouldn't be news to anyone.

[mahjongmaniac]

Anybody hoping to get a price match can maybe price match this at CC: http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?langauage=en-ca&product=2516481


sorry dude, but TS doesn't PM

[freakyflow]

Mine looks like this:
http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-103-070-02.jpg

Is it a revised version?

Yes that is the revised version. Man, I wish I got that version

[MikeMurphy]

Everyone seems to LOVE this cooler, and apparently it connects up to the HD4870 and reduces temps by around 30%.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27878&vpn=ACCELERO-S1-REV2&manufacture=Arctic%20Cooling

I would buy this for sure!

Good luck!

[alwaysbuylow]

According an article on Tom's Hardware, ATI card is manufactured by Sapphire if it is not made in Canada.

[Sapphire's parent company, PCPartner, is AMD’s largest AIB partner and reportedly manufactures every ATI-branded card that’s not made in Canada........]

ATI's 4870 reference card is running hot, third party branded card seems running cooler with better cooling fan.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-4870-palit,2096.html

[icantread]

Everyone seems to LOVE this cooler, and apparently it connects up to the HD4870 and reduces temps by around 30%.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27878&vpn=ACCELERO-S1-REV2&manufacture=Arctic%20Cooling

I would buy this for sure!

Good luck!

+1 for that cooler. BE SURE you read up on modding it before you attach it. Do NOT make the mistake of thinking it's seated properly when it isn't.

also, grab a 120mm fan and strap it on with some zipties :cheesygri

[Nook]

Damn! I was I had seen the deal earlier. Now I have to go with the 4830/4850. :mad:

[RFD_Paul]

What I do believe is that BB is in violation of the Competition Bureau requirements and would likely be fined for refusing to honour their advertised price without erratum correctin. If anyone wishes to pursue this, PM me and I would be willing to add my statement of their refusal to sell to me at that price.

http://http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/eic/site/cb-bc.nsf/eng/00522.html

They create a lot of badwill with such arbitrary decisions in areas like this and price matching. I use these examples to demonstrate to people why they should not buy BB warranty. It is a strong statement of their (non)intentions when they will not even honour their own flyer advertised prices and price match policies. It becomes not believable that they will honour their warranty 3 years from today - if they still exist.

FTR, I have been very successful in these areas but I object to the arbitrariness of the processes as implemented.

Scrap that. I picked it up so I can't really offer any to help on any complaint regarding other unlawful refusals to honour their advertisement. I asked and received the advertised product at the advertised price without hassle. If the first manager had done this, I would have nothing to complain about. If the organization honoured their polices with better integrity and consistency, I would be a Best Buy and Future Shop fanboi.

Why is it that when customers take advantage of a promo to the letter of the offer, they are called sociopaths, but when a store unlawfully refuses to sell an advertised product at the advertised price, consumers are supposed to go away politely and say 'oh well'?

Good luck tio anyone who has been refused the advertised product and wishes to pursue complaints to the Competition Bureau.

[Nook]

Scrap that. I picked it up so I can't really offer any to help on any complaint regarding other unlawful refusals to honour their advertisement. I asked and received the advertised product at the advertised price without hassle. If the first manager had done this, I would have nothing to complain about. If the organization honoured their polices with better integrity and consistency, I would be a Best Buy and Future Shop fanboi.

Why is it that when customers take advantage of a promo to the letter of the offer, they are called sociopaths, but when a store unlawfully refuses to sell an advertised product at the advertised price, consumers are supposed to go away politely and say 'oh well'?

Good luck tio anyone who has been refused the advertised product and wishes to pursue complaints to the Competition Bureau.

Did you pick yours up today? If so, I may go and give it a shot.:cheesygri

[RFD_Paul]

Anybody hoping to get a price match can maybe price match this at CC: http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?langauage=en-ca&product=2516481

When printed and not viewed online, the correction is not present:
http://bestbuy.flyerservices.com/cached_images/pages/BBUY_1d0d5a72-34b6-4cdb-9ba2-24661fe4f871_150_122108_BS_p2_00X341011.jpg


I want to try it but I have to babysit today. :o

I went to 2 BestBuy stores. Go to the front of the store and take a flyer. It is on page 2 of the large folded flyer inside the smaller book bound one. It clearly states 4870 with the 4870 part number. The picture and the SKU are for the 4850 but as stores will often argue, the picture is not representative. The SKU is an internal BB number that no consumer or court would give a flip about.

With their own flyer from their own store, I was refused the first try.

[freakyflow]

Everyone seems to LOVE this cooler, and apparently it connects up to the HD4870 and reduces temps by around 30%.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27878&vpn=ACCELERO-S1-REV2&manufacture=Arctic%20Cooling

I would buy this for sure!

Good luck!

Wonder if I should go back to BB and get mine exchanged in hopes that I get the one with teh revised heatsink/cooler :| Or maybe they'll say "hmm... it's coming up as 329.99" when they re-ring it?

[Nook]

I went to 2 BestBuy stores. Go to the front of the store and take a flyer. It is on page 2 of the large folded flyer inside the smaller book bound one. It clearly states 4870 with the 4870 part number. The picture and the SKU are for the 4850 but as stores will often argue, the picture is not representative. The SKU is an internal BB number that no consumer or court would give a flip about.

With their own flyer from their own store, I was refused the first try.

Oh so that means it worked the 2nd time, correct?

Did it work for anyone at the BB in Markville Mall?

[Aznek]

anyone know for sure if this
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30145

will run the 4870?

I plan to use the 6 pin + a molex to 6pin to get the needed 2x 6pins

[ahsalloum]

anyone know for sure if this
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30145

will run the 4870?

I plan to use the 6 pin + a molex to 6pin to get the needed 2x 6pins

Doubt it.

[RFD_Paul]

http://images.tigerdirect.com/skuimages/large/D10-4871-Main-JH.jpg

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4348727&CatId=3669

Mine looks like this except the logo on the fan is 'ATI Radeon Graphics' as shown below. See how the fan is more oval shaped than the prior pictures.

http://images.tigerdirect.com/itemDetails/Logos/D10-4871-LogoBar-JH.jpg

On the card it says "HD4870XG5 (R) Rev. 1.0". The box looks the same as the ad and it says 'Diamond Mutimedia' on one side.

[Keigotw]

Oh so that means it worked the 2nd time, correct?

Did it work for anyone at the BB in Markville Mall?

The online BB shows that BB Markville mall doesn't have it in stock

[Nook]

anyone know for sure if this
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30145

will run the 4870?

I plan to use the 6 pin + a molex to 6pin to get the needed 2x 6pins

Seasonic is a very good brand but the 400W cannot run the 4870. Don't even try lol.

[Nook]

The online BB shows that BB Markville mall doesn't have it in stock

Yeah and the 4850 is now priced at $229. :?:

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10108453&catid=20397&logon=&langid=EN

[PrimoTurbo]

anyone know for sure if this
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30145

will run the 4870?

I plan to use the 6 pin + a molex to 6pin to get the needed 2x 6pins

400W is a bit low, I suggest at least 500W. The guide inside the box suggests a 750W PSU but it's over exaggerated.

I've seen tests online that show this card can take up to 350W at full load, but it's not that likely.

I'm running with 600W with no problems but then again my PC takes less then 250W, the rest can be used by the video card.

[Nook]

400W is a bit low, I suggest at least 500W. The guide inside the box suggests a 750W PSU but it's over exaggerated.

I've seen tests online that show this card can take up to 350W at full load, but it's not that likely.

I'm running with 600W with no problems but then again my PC takes less then 250W, the rest can be used by the video card.

Exactly. But that 500W has to be REAL 500 Watts. Don't skimp out on a cheap brand when it comes to the PSU. I would go with at least something along the lines of Antec or OCZ. But if you want real quality, Corsair, PC Power and Cooling, or Seasonic are the way to go.

Plus, the 500W will leave no room for OCing. Maybe this would suit your needs: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276573&Sku=ULT-LSP650

[RFD_Paul]

^ if your PM is completely legit, you should be able to come up w/ arguments to counter every one of their (rather false) excuses
and hence there should be no reason you can't walk out of the store w/ a successful PM

and not to mention coming prepared comes a long way...



Unfortunately this is not the way it works in the BB/FS real world. I know how to read a contract and argue positions for a living. In the end, BB/FS will honour their written policy only if they feel like it. 2 of my favourite final responses from them include:

1. The policy is subject to change without notice and I am changing it now. We no longer price match.

2. I don't care what the policy says, I won't sell something below our cost.

The cost argument is particularly funny because:

1. They would not accept my economic situation as a legitimate rationale for a position. Eg., I cannot afford to pay the higer price because I just lost my job. Similarly, their economic situation (cost amount) does not matter to me or the legitimacy of their policy application.

2. From my knowledge of the retail business it is unlikely that anyone who works the floor knows the true cost. These people are typically lied to and given a higher cost amount than the true one, as incentive for them resist lower pricing, and to calculate commissions on 'adjusted' (inflated) cost amounts in the case of Futureshop commissions, for example.

Are managers who refuse to honour the intention of their organizations policies sociopaths?

[Nook]

Unfortunately this is not the way it works in the BB/FS real world. I know how to read a contract and argue positions for a living. In the end, BB/FS will honour their written policy only if they feel like it. 2 of my favourite final responses from them include:

1. The policy is subject to change without notice and I am changing it now. We no longer price match.

2. I don't care what the policy says, I won't sell something below our cost.

The cost argument is particularly funny because:

1. They would not accept my economic situation as a legitimate rationale for a position. Eg., I cannot afford to pay the higer price because I just lost my job. Similarly, their economic situation (cost amount) does not matter to me or the legitimacy of their policy application.

2. From my knowledge of the retail business it is unlikely that anyone who works the floor knows the true cost. These people are typically lied to and given a higher cost amount than the true one, as incentive for them resist lower pricing, and to calculate commissions on 'adjusted' (inflated) cost amounts in the case of Futureshop commissions, for example.

Are managers who refuse to honour the intention of their organizations policies sociopaths?

Did you try calling their HQ? They MAY have something to say about it.

[carmaster]

I am surprised that Bestbuy is honoring this deal. They can clearly refuse it since it says in their flyer that they are not responsible for printing errors.

[AlexK]

I just bought it from Best buy scarborough.

It seems to me is that they price is a scheme. probably the price is correct in that most people will buy it at full price when they refuse at counter.

only few argue and call manager. I did.

He called someone and approved it.

Anyway now i have a question to 4870 users...can my enermax 480W powersupply is enough to run 4870 card or i have to sell it. I don't want to open it if it won't work with my 480 w power supply.

Thanks in advance.

[Nook]

I just bought it from Best buy scarborough.

It seems to me is that they price is a scheme. probably the price is correct in that most people will buy it at full price when they refuse at counter.

only few argue and call manager. I did.

He called someone and approved it.

Anyway now i have a question to 4870 users...can my enermax 480W powersupply is enough to run 4870 card or i have to sell it. I don't want to open it if it won't work with my 480 w power supply.

Thanks in advance.

It's not enough to supply the 4870. I wouldn't risk it, don't know about you. Like I said, this is not a bad one: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276573&Sku=ULT-LSP650

Otherwise, you can wait 'til Boxing Day and hope a good one goes for cheap.

[AlexK]

what will happen if i use it ...something get burn or system shutdown?

[Nook]

This may help you:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/inadequate-deceptive-product-labeling,536.html

;)

Realistically, it may not start up or you may get blue screens but all in all, it can fry your whole PC.

I remember once. Some guy's Rosewill PSU went on fire, literally went on fire and melted some components in his computer.

[AlexK]

4870 512mb sitting infront of me...can i try with 480w PSU? what worst can happen?...

[Nook]

4870 512mb sitting infront of me...can i try with 480w PSU? what worst can happen?...

You can give it a shot if you're really that desperate but don't bother gaming with it in with that PSU at high loads.

[MikeMurphy]

4870 512mb sitting infront of me...can i try with 480w PSU? what worst can happen?...

I suggest you return it without the receipt. They will issue you a gift card for around $360+ based on the actual price. Then buy a new power supply and a 4850.

Then yer dun.

[Haz]

I suggest you return it without the receipt. They will issue you a gift card for around $360+ based on the actual price. Then buy a new power supply and a 4850.

Then yer dun.:|

[AlexK]

i am gonna play guild wars and crysis with it. :razz:

[jimmieee]

i went to markville mall BB today and couldnt find the hd 4870 in the flyers. They had like 1 hd 4870 left on the shelf.

[spy007z]

4870 512mb sitting infront of me...can i try with 480w PSU? what worst can happen?...

I had a PSU fired when playing game. I was lucky because nothing else went wrong.

Form that time I have learned... if I am paying more then 200 for a video card, I better not to be cheap and spend some money on a real PSU.

Your video card may only last for a couple years, but a good PSU will last a lot longer.

[mahjongmaniac]

Unfortunately this is not the way it works in the BB/FS real world. I know how to read a contract and argue positions for a living. In the end, BB/FS will honour their written policy only if they feel like it. 2 of my favourite final responses from them include:

yes, i understand that... but in my books, if they only want to "honour a PM whenever they feel like it", that's when you threaten to call HO



1. The policy is subject to change without notice and I am changing it now. We no longer price match.

if they change it "now" (i'm assuming a MOD would be the only one to have the guts to say this), get his/her name, and tell 'em they'll be hearing f/ HO regarding changing a policy set by HO "on-the-fly"



2. I don't care what the policy says, I won't sell something below our cost.

selling below cost was never a clause set out in their LPG policy, so that reason can EASILY be countered against

if they don't budge, no pt in wasting time w/ them.
make sure you write to HO



2. From my knowledge of the retail business it is unlikely that anyone who works the floor knows the true cost. These people are typically lied to and given a higher cost amount than the true one, as incentive for them resist lower pricing, and to calculate commissions on 'adjusted' (inflated) cost amounts in the case of Futureshop commissions, for example.

i wouldn't be too surprised if that was the case
their compy's are designed such that any employee can check up the cost of their item, ... and if you as a consumer know how to look at their screens, you can find out too :razz:



Are managers who refuse to honour the intention of their organizations policies sociopaths?

LOL... you should pose this q? to that Financial Post journal writer

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I am surprised that Bestbuy is honoring this deal. They can clearly refuse it since it says in their flyer that they are not responsible for printing errors.

unless a retraction notice is posted instore, i'd think the ave. consumer would expect them to honour it.

but then again, the ave. joe prbly doesn't even recognize such error in the 1st place

[Nook]

i am gonna play guild wars and crysis with it. :razz:

Guild Wars may be fine but Crysis? No WAY!

If you spent 200 bucks on the card, go out and spend another $60 on the PSU and you're set.

[AlexK]

well i opened 4870 and try to install...psst...my enermax 485 noise taker do not have 2 pci express PSU connector..it seems i need 2 2x3 connector..i have only one...i sthere a way to change normal connector to pci e psu connector?.

wasted 224 bucks... well i can sell it..

[Chipbug]

well i opened 4870 and try to install...psst...my enermax 485 noise taker do not have 2 pci express PSU connector..it seems i need 2 2x3 connector..i have only one...i sthere a way to change normal connector to pci e psu connector?.

wasted 224 bucks... well i can sell it..

You could buy an adaptor to convert two 4-pin Molex connectors into one 6-pin PCI Express connector like this: http://www.cooltechpc.com/c/ctpc/std/sku=6pin_pci.html

[AlexK]

5.99 in canada computers. already 3 people whispered me.selling this card...i have n't even used it yet...i just opened..have to buy molex connector...if my 480W cpu is not handling it , i will sell it same price...including tax or u all can buy from bestbuy...

i just need it for GW , if it can handle it and play movies...i am ok..if not it goes out i buy used 9800gt or 8800gtx.

So will let u all know if it works or i am selling it.

[spy007z]

5.99 in canada computers. already 3 people whispered me.selling this card...i have n't even used it yet...i just opened..have to buy molex connector...if my 480W cpu is not handling it , i will sell it same price...including tax or u all can buy from bestbuy...

i just need it for GW , if it can handle it and play movies...i am ok..if not it goes out i buy used 9800gt or 8800gtx.

So will let u all know if it works or i am selling it.

I don't think your PSU can handle 9800 or 8800 well. It may run but with decreased performance. Getting a PSU is your solution. Wait for boxing day.

I got my CoolerMaster 750pro PSU (750w) for only $49 (after mail in rebate) last year boxing day.

[RFD_Paul]

I used to think that taking a case to HO would make a difference also but store managers don't seem to be concerned about the possibility. Next to that, not knowing exactly who to call has meant that I never have gone this route.

Printing errors have to be corrected by an erratum. A business cannot simply advertise one product, refuse to sell it when you show up and then blame printers. There are laws to protect consumers from this type of fraud. I provided links to the Competition Bureau that monitors this.

I was wondering if someone would pick up on the FP sociopath comments. Think the FP will print an article about the abusive (unlawful actually) and arbitrary decisions of the BB managers that have refused to honour their own flyer? Probably not.

These flyers have been in good stock at the front of both BB stores I was in. I wonder if they are pulling the flyers?

[AlexK]

Ok is 4870 is really that better? or it is just marginal improvement...i use old 6800gs card..excelllant card...

i bought this because it is a good deal..now if i have to spend another 60-70+tax.. bucks for PSU ... is it worth it ?.

Or is it just for gaming enthusiasts?. i do not think GW need that powerful card...

My 6800gs struggle at 1900x1200 resolution in GW...i die often there (lags) ..so i think 4870 will solve that..but changing PSU ...is getting expensive..

May wait until boxing day to see if i can get 600w psu...if anyone see any deal on PSU ..msg me..

Tks.

[hotweiss]

Ok is 4870 is really that better? or it is just marginal improvement...i use old 6800gs card..excelllant card...

i bought this because it is a good deal..now if i have to spend another 60-70+tax.. bucks for PSU ... is it worth it ?.

Or is it just for gaming enthusiasts?. i do not think GW need that powerful card...

My 6800gs struggle at 1900x1200 resolution in GW...i die often there (lags) ..so i think 4870 will solve that..but changing PSU ...is getting expensive..

May wait until boxing day to see if i can get 600w psu...if anyone see any deal on PSU ..msg me..

Tks.

Yes, the 4870 is a big improvement. Keep it!

[AlexK]

+1 for keep it...so i have to look for PSU then...becaus ei have 3 hard disk ...sound card...my 480w PSU may not handle i think.

[mahjongmaniac]

I used to think that taking a case to HO would make a difference also but store managers don't seem to be concerned about the possibility. Next to that, not knowing exactly who to call has meant that I never have gone this route.

sometimes the MODs intimidate you by telling you to go right ahead to phone HO to complain, and act like they don't care

you should do as they say and see what happens =)


as for who to call, well, you really only have that 1-800 online CS #



These flyers have been in good stock at the front of both BB stores I was in. I wonder if they are pulling the flyers?

i don't think they'd pull the flyers.
the correct thing to do is still to post the correction notice... that, or maybe pull the remaining VC stock

[AlexK]

They can only say it is out fo stock..u still can buy in advance on same adevrtised price?.

They can't sell one person different price and the other one different.

so if they have it they have to sell it 199.99 if u ask for it...or u may be paying full price at the counter...

I had to argue 10 minutes and tell the lady to call the manager...he was also arguing...then i told him my friends bought from that store..then he called someone and approved it.

[RFD_Paul]

I have an Dell XPS630 case. The 750W PSU has all the connectors needed for the 4870, but I am worried about the heat dissipating inside the case. I can easily add a second fan (80 mm in the rear).

Any thoughts on converting to a side fan? Good ways to measure heat?

Thanks for the suggestions.

[evanx]

Significant difference playing in Crysis and Fallout. Upgraded from 8800GT. Well reccomended!

[kleptodathief]

is BB still honouring this? any digidollar codes working?

[Keigotw]

is BB still honouring this? any digidollar codes working?

as reported, BB already put a correction notice on the website

"AD CORRECTION
ATI HD 4850 512MB PCIe Video Card
WebID:10108453
Please note that on page 2 of the December 21 flyer, the spec number for this product is incorrect. The correct spec number for the product advertised should read HD 4850."


So I guess is dead or YMMV

[belowzeros]

Significant difference playing in Crysis and Fallout. Upgraded from 8800GT. Well reccomended!


no kidding on fallout. I'm a little suprised since it's just a refreshed oblivion engine and that thing is horrible moving textures around and such.

[Terrific_Deals2k8]

EXPIRED DEAL!!... Admin Please Move to the Expired Deals section, thanks!

[tester3000]

EXPIRED DEAL!!... Admin Please Move to the Expired Deals section, thanks!

YMMV depending on store.