If you do buy a TV, DO NOT! DO NOT! Buy the cables from FS/BB/Retailers!

[Morphius909]

Just trying to help out the person that DOES buy a Flatscreen TV this season.

Stick with www.monoprice.com

Or Loblaws/Superstore/Princess Auto as others have suggested!

FS/BB/Retailers in Canada are a complete scam when it comes to HDMI cables.


I hate good people being scammed by bad people, throwing away good money for sheer marketing.


Happy Shopping!

:cheesygri

[Spongeg]

yes i saw a story on Marektplace on CBC that showed the $100 cable was just as good as a $10 cable

[rimi]

good point.
Get the cheapest cables. Sometimes the small time electronics stores around the corner have them for like 8-10$ if not go to monoprice.com just like the OP suggested.

[canadianguy_001]

Good post...

Yes cables is where retailers make a lot of money. In most cases they are complete deal-killers.

I know most of you buying new HDTV's this boxing day will be very ansy to get your beautiful new TV's up & running right away, but even good quality cables are really only worth about $5.

If you absolutely cannot wait for monoprice, I think I saw a thread about loblaws having HDMI cables for $6.99 - not too bad. Also I have seen them for cheap at Princess Auto in the surplus section before - although that is a total YMMV

[killoverme]

all corner stores seem to have cables priced high too, if its short then sometimes its worth it to buy it around the corner but anything longer then 6ft, you most likely should go to monoprice.

LCD arms are nice there too =)

40 USD approx (including shipping) 20 for the LCD arm and 20 for shipping

[Morphius909]

Excellent suggestion folks!

I've edited my Original post.

Keep it up!:)

[canadiankorean]

Order now so you can get the cables earlier so you can enjoy your new TV.

Imagine buying the TV, then having it sit in your house for 5-10 days while the cables ship... lol

Well if you have Rogers HD, at least the cable box comes with component.

[wahyinghung]

Damn someone should have made this thread like two years earlier :cry:

[CRXGSR]

During the Philips Clearance sale, HDMI cables were only $5, whereas it would have cost like $20+ at the big box stores. You can still buy from the Philips as they are open regular work hours as well.

[MaDgamEr]

The trick is not to get the absolute cheapest crap out there, because there does come a point where quality will suffer.

Just remember that $5 at monoprice is MUCH better than $5 at a supermarket!
Hands down, monoprice all the way!!!

[MrKat]

Just trying to help out the person that DOES buy a Flatscreen TV this season.

Stick with www.monoprice.com

Or Loblaws/Superstore/Princess Auto as others have suggested!

FS/BB/Retailers in Canada are a complete scam when it comes to HDMI cables.


I hate good people being scammed by bad people, throwing away good money for sheer marketing.


Happy Shopping!

:cheesygri

Wow welcome to 2006! I didnt know that, wow ground breaking news.

[speedyforme]

wait is this only for HDTV cables right?

I have Rogers but not HD tv since I don't find it worthwhile. BUT if I say I plug in my DVD player, everything should appear in good quality right?

[MaDgamEr]

Wow welcome to 2006! I didnt know that, wow ground breaking news.

That's a bit harsh, no? Next time you're @ BB or FS hang out by the tv's for a while and watch how easily (and often) people get duped into this bs. OP had good intentions, and IMHO, made a very valid post considering this time of year.

[Sniper001]

That's a bit harsh, no? Next time you're @ BB or FS hang out by the tv's for a while and watch how easily (and often) people get duped into this bs. OP had good intentions, and IMHO, made a very valid post considering this time of year.
+1. Thanks. In fact, I wasn't even aware of this till last year and I got duped by it a few years ago.

[qrayzie]

I'm going to have to post a negative for monoprice. Yes their cables are cheap (in cost), but no, they aren't always the best.

Example 1: RCA Component Cable--the cheapest kind they offer, is a ridiculously heavy cable with plugs that don't grip properly. Depending on the orientation of the sockets on your television, the weight of the cable alone will pull them right out. Also, the plugs are aligned A-V-V-V-A (A=Audio V=Video) rather than V-V-V-A-A, which may or may not cause problems for you depending on the setup. The PREMIUM cable that they offer, which is about 4x more expensive, is just as heavy but with plugs that have much better grip. However on this cable, the audio lines are longer than the video lines, making for an awkward, bulky plug in setup. On both cables that they offer, the plugs are actually quite bulky as well, and it can be a pain to get them plugged in properly if you have multiple component sockets one on top of another. Finally, they rate the cheap cable for up to 1080i and the premium cable for up to 1080p, and yet neither appears capable of carrying a proper 1080 signal. For 720 and below the picture quality is fantastic, but for 1080 and above, it seems hit or miss. I've also received plenty of faulty cables that just don't work, generally because of a snapped wire in the cable. YMMV.

Example 2: Component Wii cable--What a great deal, under $4! However, only if you like your reds to show up green. It's a universal problem with the cable that still doesn't appear to have been corrected.

I'm hesistant to try their HDMI cables because of my experiences with their component cables. HOWEVER, I think the lesson the OP is trying to teach is a good one, and should start with don't buy Monster cable from the big box stores--it really is a rip off, and there are plenty of viable alternatives. Component cables for example, can generally be found at the source (nexxtech, etc) for $19.99, and are high quality cables from my experience. The price pretty much matches monoprice once you add shipping(duty) and time spent waiting anyhow, and they are good cables with good gripping plugs that don't pull themselves out of your sockets by their weight alone. :)

Just my experience!

[ephemera]

I am glad someone posted this. It is old news but it needs to be repeated so people don't get scammed out of $100's of dollars.

I did get a bum hdmi at monoprice once, but so what, it was only $3 big deal. My other cables work like a charm

Also, if your planning on buying a TV, order the cables a week or two early from Monoprice so you are set. Buy 2 or 3 6ft at least, just in case one doesn't work and you can hook up all your componants xmas morning.

Also powerbars. You can get some good ones at The Source for $40ish last I have seen. I just use a crappy one for my tv. No probs yet.

[Morphius909]

Wow welcome to 2006! I didnt know that, wow ground breaking news.

Gee, that's a real winning attitude you have there kiddo.

Keep up the positive attitude!

[jdouce]

The best store to buy hdmi/digital audio cables I've found is Loblaw’s of all places! I picked up a 6' hdmi cable for 6.99 and 6' digital coaxial cable for 9.99 last week. The seem to be decent quality and they have gold plated connectors. Both work perfectly with by Rogers HD box :)

[lwswong]

i've had great experiences with monoprice FWIW for HSMI, SVGA and DVI cables (never used a component cable from them before).

If you can't wait the 5 days for the cables to come in the mail after you order them, at LEAST head to factory direct or similar store to grab your HDMI cable(s). They may cost you slightly more than monoprice, but still better than FS or BB or other big box store, and you'll have it right away....

good luck to everyone this boxing day!

[sahilz]

Good reminder. Thanks!!

[bembol]

I learned about this over at Home Theater Forums. To be fair, I saw Improvements when it came to (Analog) S-Video & Component cables.

My Uncle used to work at Future Shop and I got the MonsterCable Video 3 (Highest Grade) for less than $50, they were like $150+.

[galantgtz99]

Went to install a new LCD TV while back in a customer's home and saw the price tag of the hdmi cable they bought (strongly suggested by the sales person) at best buy. It was $99.99, for a piece of danm cable. That was when i realized how those big stores are ripping off customers who don't shop around. Forget about trusting the stores to have a reasonable prices and forget about trusting the sales with their advises. Now days if you don't shop around yourself when you buy things then you are a fool.

[somemale]

hi guys, very newbie here.

I was on monoprice looking at the HDMI cables and am really confused, there are so many different kinds, which ones do I get?

I need 3
-xbox360
-blu ray player ( bonus question, does the sony bd350 come with hdmi cables?)
-hd cable box

I don't need a very long cable, which ones should I get?

Thanks!

[MrKat]

That's a bit harsh, no? Next time you're @ BB or FS hang out by the tv's for a while and watch how easily (and often) people get duped into this bs. OP had good intentions, and IMHO, made a very valid post considering this time of year.

I didnt mean to be harsh on the OP (sorry OP if I came off that way) and I agree, whenever I see people buying TVs in stores and see them being sucked into the $100 cables, I almost always discreetly walk up to them and whisper that they can get the cables online for fraction of the cost. Cant say that the sales person is too happy with me after :cheesygri


hi guys, very newbie here.

I was on monoprice looking at the HDMI cables and am really confused, there are so many different kinds, which ones do I get?

I need 3
-xbox360
-blu ray player ( bonus question, does the sony bd350 come with hdmi cables?)
-hd cable box

I don't need a very long cable, which ones should I get?

Thanks!

HDMI 1.3

[cuanto]

hi guys, very newbie here.

I was on monoprice looking at the HDMI cables and am really confused, there are so many different kinds, which ones do I get?

I need 3
-xbox360
-blu ray player ( bonus question, does the sony bd350 come with hdmi cables?)
-hd cable box

I don't need a very long cable, which ones should I get?

Thanks!

I like the 22AWG HDMI 1.3a ones. Be forewarned though, they are thick and will make your entertaiment area look like the bat cave. That's cream in my books but YMMV...

[Morphius909]

MrKat--No Problemo!

I hope this thread deferred a lot of bucks out of FS/BB/Big Box Stores hands, and allowed people to save some money yet get the cables they really needed!

[magmazing]

How about Surge protectors... Anyone know of good reasonably priced surge protectors for your HDTV and home theatre equipment?

[SCEvan]

You need this $150 cable for the best picture quality possible, buy it, do it, do it, do it, buy it. :D

[magmazing]

You need this $150 cable for the best picture quality possible, buy it, do it, do it, do it, buy it. :D

reeeeaaalllly.... haha

[Firestorm]

I'm going to have to post a negative for monoprice. Yes their cables are cheap (in cost), but no, they aren't always the best.

Example 1: RCA Component Cable--the cheapest kind they offer, is a ridiculously heavy cable with plugs that don't grip properly. Depending on the orientation of the sockets on your television, the weight of the cable alone will pull them right out. Also, the plugs are aligned A-V-V-V-A (A=Audio V=Video) rather than V-V-V-A-A, which may or may not cause problems for you depending on the setup. The PREMIUM cable that they offer, which is about 4x more expensive, is just as heavy but with plugs that have much better grip. However on this cable, the audio lines are longer than the video lines, making for an awkward, bulky plug in setup. On both cables that they offer, the plugs are actually quite bulky as well, and it can be a pain to get them plugged in properly if you have multiple component sockets one on top of another. Finally, they rate the cheap cable for up to 1080i and the premium cable for up to 1080p, and yet neither appears capable of carrying a proper 1080 signal. For 720 and below the picture quality is fantastic, but for 1080 and above, it seems hit or miss. I've also received plenty of faulty cables that just don't work, generally because of a snapped wire in the cable. YMMV.

Example 2: Component Wii cable--What a great deal, under $4! However, only if you like your reds to show up green. It's a universal problem with the cable that still doesn't appear to have been corrected.

I'm hesistant to try their HDMI cables because of my experiences with their component cables. HOWEVER, I think the lesson the OP is trying to teach is a good one, and should start with don't buy Monster cable from the big box stores--it really is a rip off, and there are plenty of viable alternatives. Component cables for example, can generally be found at the source (nexxtech, etc) for $19.99, and are high quality cables from my experience. The price pretty much matches monoprice once you add shipping(duty) and time spent waiting anyhow, and they are good cables with good gripping plugs that don't pull themselves out of your sockets by their weight alone. :)

Just my experience!I have heard of some issues with their analog cables, yes. However, the digital cables are top notch.

[geronimo]

Thanks for the tip, I always thought FS/BB were a ripoff but I wasn't sure. I'll purchase my cables at Loblaws, or maybe try out Monoprice, although I don't usually like shopping online.

[gordholio]

I was browsing TV's at The Brick in Midland yesterday with a friend and noticed a Monster brand HDMI cable (6'). Guess what the price was?

$225!

Even that shocked me!

This is a great thread to help people who are new to HDTV and HDMI and don't know much about this sort of thing.

[gubica]

I don't post often but i've read extensively and compared cables recently because i just bought some high-middle or low-high end speakers and a receiver...

I used to be a monster cable guy... but after talking and reading many things written by "audiophiles" I've become a bluejeans cable guy...

just to throw my 2 cents into the discussion... which is again only my opinion..

This is considering that you have a <$5000 system... because if you've spent more than that on a single speaker then extra $$ for monster or audioquest wires is no object... for the rest of us non-millionaires...

monoprice does sell alot of decent cable that are fairly cheap... and from all the long and complex physics posts and video's on the internet for basically ANY cable run of less than 10-12 feet... you can really use old extension cord chopped up and wouldn't really notice much of a difference... beyond that 100% you'll need at least basic cables...

bluejeans cable is another low price cable company i've read alot about.. they are basically the next step up from monoprice... they offer a basic (while not visually attractive) set of AV cables.. the reason i went with them over monoprice was that the majority of their cables are made in the USA not china (i've lost trust in anything coming from china)... and the overall cost is not really that much more because they charge less for shipping than monoprice

so to summarize my opinions...

if every penny matters and you're using short run only--> monoprice
if you have any extra $40 and don't mind spending it on slightly better quality --> bluejeans cable
if you're joe millionaire and price is no object -->Audioquest Everest ($21,000 for 3meters) or the bargin Pear Anjou $8000 12ft cable.:cheesygri

[bandit373]

How about Surge protectors... Anyone know of good reasonably priced surge protectors for your HDTV and home theatre equipment?

I like this one from Costco....when the power goes out....you're expensive TV and AV equipment doesn't...


Pure SineWave output
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11234507

It's not on the .ca site but I know they have them in store. I believe they're cheaper than that list price....it's been almost a year since I had mine. It works exactly as intended. It's kinda neat to know what your input line voltage is at any given moment of the day.


Highly recommended.

[CFRTim]

I was at the Sony Store last thursday, and the CSR right beside me sold a $200 HDMI Monster cable to some doorknob. According to the Sony employee, this was the only HDMI cable certified to handle the new 120Hz TV the poor smuck just bought in there as well

[siriuskao]

That's a bit harsh, no? Next time you're @ BB or FS hang out by the tv's for a while and watch how easily (and often) people get duped into this bs. OP had good intentions, and IMHO, made a very valid post considering this time of year.

Perhaps they were just "renting" the cable while they wait for their monoprice shipment. I know at least one person who did that ;)

[Mike2000z28]

Yeah i just got my cables from monoprice, 21 Cad shipped for 3 (6ft 1.3) hdmi cables. Canada doesnt charge tax i think for items under a certain dollar value when they get shipped from the US.

[aos007]

Or just pick them up from NCIX if you live in GVR. They have tons of them hanging in the waiting area, $10 for 6 feet I think. And that's regular price. You get them immediately and you support local business. If you need many you should buy from Monoprice but just for the first week or two, one cable from a local shop should tie you over. The NCIX cables are I believe "ION" brand and they look the same from the outside as the "premium" Monoprice, i.e. thick Techflex sleeve over the cable though I have no idea about the actual quality (wire gauge, quality of the cable) but they worked fine for me.

I second Costco for buying surge protectors (APC brand, with large outlet blocks for accomodating walwarts, you know you'll need it) or UPSes. I bought probably half a dozen over the last few years, they are consistently half price of what London Drugs charges for the equivalents.

[bubble.tea]

Best Thread on RFD currently :).

[Firestorm]

I was at the Sony Store last thursday, and the CSR right beside me sold a $200 HDMI Monster cable to some doorknob. According to the Sony employee, this was the only HDMI cable certified to handle the new 120Hz TV the poor smuck just bought in there as wellMeh. It's hard working retail since you can't really tell them "Don't buy our cables". Especially when the TVs are sold at a loss. I tell customers they'll require an HDMI cable to get an HD picture out of their BluRay player. I tell them Monster is the best brand we carry (which is true, our lower priced cables have HORRIBLE build quality and seem to have a 50% failure rate... we use them on the floor models). I tell them the biggest difference they're going to see is in build quality.

I then match the packaging up with what their TV does because I think Monster purposely gimps their "lower" priced cables to not support features like 120Hz.

If a customer asks me how much cables cost I specifically state they cost $80 - $150 at retail.

I feel bad every time I sell one of those cables :( However, I'd rather have someone buy a $100 Monster HDMI cable then use the damn composite cable the BluRay players and PS3s come with.

[Sniper001]

Meh. It's hard working retail since you can't really tell them "Don't buy our cables". Especially when the TVs are sold at a loss. I tell customers they'll require an HDMI cable to get an HD picture out of their BluRay player. I tell them Monster is the best brand we carry (which is true, our lower priced cables have HORRIBLE build quality and seem to have a 50% failure rate... we use them on the floor models). I tell them the biggest difference they're going to see is in build quality.

I then match the packaging up with what their TV does because I think Monster purposely gimps their "lower" priced cables to not support features like 120Hz.

If a customer asks me how much cables cost I specifically state they cost $80 - $150 at retail.

I feel bad every time I sell one of those cables :( However, I'd rather have someone buy a $100 Monster HDMI cable then use the damn composite cable the BluRay players and PS3s come with.

Where would you recommend me to get my HDMI cable from? Any specific model or make and what price than? I don't want to get gipped, but at the same time, I need something well built for a 65 inch LCD HDTV.

[Wasgo]

Meh. It's hard working retail since you can't really tell them "Don't buy our cables". Especially when the TVs are sold at a loss.

I haven't worked retail for an electronics store before, but I think this is an important point. It's frustrating to read about Future Shop 'scamming' people or how it would be 'better' if no one bought the cables. This is how Future Shop and the other big box retailers earn money. If they didn't earn money off of this, they would just raise the prices on everything else instead.

As a smart shopper, it's better that they do it this way, because this at least gives the option to save money. If they just raised prices on TVs instead, we'd all pay more.

[Firestorm]

Where would you recommend me to get my HDMI cable from? Any specific model or make and what price than? I don't want to get gipped, but at the same time, I need something well built for a 65 inch LCD HDTV.http://www.monoprice.com

Just get the 3ft or 6ft cable there and you're good to go. They're made to HDMI 1.3a specifications which matches Monster's "ULTRA HIGH SPEED!" cables with all the stuff bullet pointed on the front of the box.

I've gotta say though, Monster's newest line of cables has really snazzy packaging :D

[Shimso]

should be stickied :)

[Qube]

Bottom line... you don't need to spend $200 on cables, but don't spend $2 either. Monster Cable USED to be good... like many things, they had great origins, but the product was diluted much over time and brand overshadowed everything else.

As long as your cable has adequate shielding, it will do just great. The Law of Diminishing Returns applies here. As long as you use better cable than the crap supplied with most reasonably-priced equipment, you'll do just fine.

Most cables are built in China. Don't let the fact that an HDMI cable bears a U.S. brand name lead you to believe that that HDMI cable contains American products, American labor or American know-how; none of them, other than ours, do. And China may be an easy place to get a good price, but it is not a good place to get a leading-edge technological product; for top-quality data cables (and HDMI is a data cable), the US is still the place to go.

Most vendors of HDMI cable in the US don't know what attributes would make a good HDMI cable, and since they don't participate in the manufacture beyond specifying jacket printing and the shape of the molded connector, they don't really have much reason to find out. The result is that most citations to product spec that one finds in connection with the sale of HDMI cable are references to the product's wire gauge. Wire gauge is somewhat meaningful, but judging HDMI cable quality by comparing wire gauge is like judging automobile quality by comparing engine block length -- a very, very inexact way of looking at the problem.

Buy a cheap cable, you'll most likely be buying out of spec cables or the ones that nearly fall out of the acceptable impedance range. Buy Monster Cables and you'll be buying the same close tolerance impedance cables as not-so-heavily-marketed brand names.

Dollar Store HDMI cables. NO!

[dealstime]

I never understand the logic here. This is like going to a restaurant and you get food but they charge for a spoon. If you a buy a TV or printer it goes without saying you need cables ...surprising no lawsuits in US or canada.

[chachu]

http://www.monoprice.com

Just get the 3ft or 6ft cable there and you're good to go. They're made to HDMI 1.3a specifications which matches Monster's "ULTRA HIGH SPEED!" cables with all the stuff bullet pointed on the front of the box.

I've gotta say though, Monster's newest line of cables has really snazzy packaging :D

Can u pls specify which one to order ,there are too many ,confusing on their website.:confused:

[cuanto]

Can u pls specify which one to order ,there are too many ,confusing on their website.:confused:


I like the 22AWG HDMI 1.3a ones. Be forewarned though, they are thick and will make your entertaiment area look like the bat cave. That's cream in my books but YMMV...

Go for the bat cave look. :cheesygri

[aaquib]

Anyone find any good deals for an HDMI cable locally? Getting a new TV and don't want to wait for the cables to ship, and don't want to shell out $40 for one. FactoryDirect is probably the cheapest, but they're a bit far away from me.

[NoSoul]

Greeting and Merry Xmas to all.

A little story on how I save a lady from the evil forces of Best Buy. I was picking up my A550 (32inch Samsung) today and had to wait until the sales rep was done with a lady who brought a A450 (Also a Samsung.) So i notice that she was buying the outrageously price MONSTER HDMI cables. I was so tempted to jump into their conversation but remain calm because I too had to deal with the rep afterwards. Lucky for me, he walks off to answer a question (it was surprisingly busy today, busy at FS too.) This was my chance, my one duty as a RFDer to pass on the knowledge of savings. So I tell her that she can get cables at other places for a cheaper price. Told her even Wal Mart sells HDMI for 20ish bucks (she was in a rush an I dont think she was going to wait for the shipping on MONOprices) It actually end up with her asking me tech questions about her TV. Didnt think the sales rep like it too much. Anyways, I think it the sole duty of all RDFer to help the misinform. :D

Cheers to all!

Oh and aaquib, you can take a look at Wal mart, Philips HDMI 6 foot for 20 ish bucks if your in a rush.

[Morphius909]

NoSoul---You My friend DESERVE an AWARD!

[aaquib]

Greeting and Merry Xmas to all.

A little story on how I save a lady from the evil forces of Best Buy. I was picking up my A550 (32inch Samsung) today and had to wait until the sales rep was done with a lady who brought a A450 (Also a Samsung.) So i notice that she was buying the outrageously price MONSTER HDMI cables. I was so tempted to jump into their conversation but remain calm because I too had to deal with the rep afterwards. Lucky for me, he walks off to answer a question (it was surprisingly busy today, busy at FS too.) This was my chance, my one duty as a RFDer to pass on the knowledge of savings. So I tell her that she can get cables at other places for a cheaper price. Told her even Wal Mart sells HDMI for 20ish bucks (she was in a rush an I dont think she was going to wait for the shipping on MONOprices) It actually end up with her asking me tech questions about her TV. Didnt think the sales rep like it too much. Anyways, I think it the sole duty of all RDFer to help the misinform. :D

Cheers to all!

Oh and aaquib, you can take a look at Wal mart, Philips HDMI 6 foot for 20 ish bucks if your in a rush.

Thanks boss, I'll be checking it out Friday. And, good job at FS :)

I remember I tried telling a guy at Best Buy once that Apple Care was not only cheaper, but covered the same as Best Buy's service plan, plus with the BB plan you still had to send it in to Apple. The customer seemed extremely interested, but the sales guy went on a rant about how I was wrong and how Apple didn't cover many things. I had to actually go to the Apple website to prove that Apple covered nearly everything that he said it didn't, and for cheaper. The customer didn't end up buying anything from the BB that day, I'm guessing he went to an Apple Store :cheesygri

[dedication]

*bump* to the top... DONT buy overpriced HDMI cables when you buy your nice new TV!

www.monoprice.com
www.factorydirect.com has GTA area cables for $8.88 and $14.99 (bulk and packaged belkin)

[neksus]

You know what - those cables are what make the big boys the money. They're losing a few hundred on a tv, what makes you think they're going to continue to have great boxing day sales if all they do is lose money? This is only perpetuating the downfall of good sales...

[neksus]

I never understand the logic here. This is like going to a restaurant and you get food but they charge for a spoon. If you a buy a TV or printer it goes without saying you need cables ...surprising no lawsuits in US or canada.

It is in fact illegal to ship an item without all necessary components to function.
<b>However</b>, when's the last time you bought a tv that didn't come with composite cables ;)

[99bimmer]

I get my HDMI cables from monoprice and my TV confirms a 1080p signal. Even if you're planning on getting your HDTV down the road, order your cables from monoprice now.

[rimi]

I get my HDMI cables from monoprice and my TV confirms a 1080p signal. Even if you're planning on getting your HDTV down the road, order your cables from monoprice now.

Thats what i didn when the dollar was strong. I stocked up on some cables b/c I knew I will need them sometime :).

[Sniper001]

Guys, I went on the monoprice website.

Is this a good deal:
HDMI 1.3a Cable 28AWG - 3ft w/Ferrite Cores (Gold Plated Connectors) - BLACK

Comes up to $7 each cable when you buy 2, shipping and tax included.

[knightwrangler]

Check the posting here for more pricing on HDMI cables:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=675212

[tripwire]

hi guys, very newbie here.

I was on monoprice looking at the HDMI cables and am really confused, there are so many different kinds, which ones do I get?

I need 3
-xbox360
-blu ray player ( bonus question, does the sony bd350 come with hdmi cables?)
-hd cable box

I don't need a very long cable, which ones should I get?

Thanks!

These are not too thick, and at 6 feet, not too long. I orded 4 of these back in June. Good product.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10243&cs_id=1024008&p_id=3992&seq=1&format=2

[tripwire]

You know what - those cables are what make the big boys the money. They're losing a few hundred on a tv, what makes you think they're going to continue to have great boxing day sales if all they do is lose money? This is only perpetuating the downfall of good sales...

For what you *think* you're saving on a tv at BB or FS, you'll actually more than make up the difference if you buy their overpriced monster cables.

It is what it is, a ripoff aimed at the unknowing consumer.

[seanster]

Someone has to mention Sayal for people in the GTA. See sayal.com for locations (now including Cambridge). You can get a $10+ hdmi cable, toslink, hdmi-dvi, etc. Some brands are RCA, monster, generic monoprice-type stuff. You never know what you will find on sale when you walk in there.

If you're near Mississauga there's a sayal + a few stores all together on matheson blvd just south of 401 & dixie. They have cheap electronics parts and the sat tv fta receivers with the backroom firmware flashing & cash deals (if you look shifty enough). Should be plenty of fta people here quite familiar with these stores. It's like princess auto for nerds & signal thieves.

I doubt most people know about the new Cambridge store so I want to get the word out. I'll shed real tears when they shut it down for lack of business.

[Morphius909]

3100 people have viewed this thread.

Hopefully even 10% of those will NOT give their hard earned money to the numbskulls at Crappybuy or Fckshop!

[Eldorado]

I never understand the logic here. This is like going to a restaurant and you get food but they charge for a spoon. If you a buy a TV or printer it goes without saying you need cables ...surprising no lawsuits in US or canada.

The logic is to make the tv itself as cheap as possible.. what if you already have enough cables, would you want to pay extra when you buy a tv because of included cables? (yes these things cost money and that cost will be passed onto you)

But then where does it stop? People complain that DVD players, cable boxes etc. don't come with all the needed cables.. on and on it goes

The spoon thing is not a very good analogy, the tv can be used without HDMI cables or any video cables for that matter

I believe all that they are required to package with the tv is the power cable

[Happy13178]

You know what - those cables are what make the big boys the money. They're losing a few hundred on a tv, what makes you think they're going to continue to have great boxing day sales if all they do is lose money? This is only perpetuating the downfall of good sales...

You can stop that now. Screwing people most of the time to get good deals once in a while isn't the way things are supposed to work, so don't go spread the company line of crap. As a consumer, whether or not the company loses money or how they do their business is NOT YOUR PROBLEM. "We can't pricematch because its below our cost"....not your problem. "We're losing money on every sale"....no they're not. You don't work at the company, and its not your responsibility to care how they run things or what their profit margins are. Don't go thinking that they're not still making plenty of money and the deals will dry up if you don't buy items priced at a 5000% profit margin. Thats garbage, and by spreading it you're actually making things worse for other people, because it increases their chances of getting screwed.

[Fox]

Where is Sayal? I'm in Cambridge for Christmas and will be hitting the stores tomorrow.


Someone has to mention Sayal for people in the GTA. See sayal.com for locations (now including Cambridge). You can get a $10+ hdmi cable, toslink, hdmi-dvi, etc. Some brands are RCA, monster, generic monoprice-type stuff. You never know what you will find on sale when you walk in there.

If you're near Mississauga there's a sayal + a few stores all together on matheson blvd just south of 401 & dixie. They have cheap electronics parts and the sat tv fta receivers with the backroom firmware flashing & cash deals (if you look shifty enough). Should be plenty of fta people here quite familiar with these stores. It's like princess auto for nerds & signal thieves.

I doubt most people know about the new Cambridge store so I want to get the word out. I'll shed real tears when they shut it down for lack of business.

[shai-tan]

I bought 15 foot HDMI cable , DVI/HDMI Adapter, COAX/toslink Adapter, adjustable lcd wall mount, two pair of speaker stands from monoprice just recently. Only issue was they wouldn't send regular ground due to the weight of the speaker stands but it was cheaper than I could find stands here even including the $20 more expensive shipping.

[Firestorm]

Can u pls specify which one to order ,there are too many ,confusing on their website.:confused:

The cheapest (deal of the weak) is the orange cable (3ft): http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024007&p_id=3949&seq=1&format=2

If you want to keep your cable black:
6ft: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024008&p_id=3992&seq=1&format=2
3ft: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024007&p_id=3871&seq=1&format=2

[vg007]

Just yesterday a salesman at FS was trying to foist a PSP+hdmi cable on top of a perfectly reasonably priced TV on us :(. FS and every other retailer must have praised the lord when HDTV came about, now they have even more types of overpriced cables to sell.

Yikes. Cables are so boring anyway, who on earth gets excited when they buy a $100 HDMI cable for $50?

[bandit373]

FS and BestBuy sell an overpriced cable but they didn't set the pricing beyond their usual markup. Monster is really the company you should have your beef with.

However, FS and BB trying to convince customers that they should purchase a MONSTER cable versus their cheapest brand (because they will see and hear a difference) is a little bit of snake-oil sales. That said, even their cheapest cable is way too much at $30

[gollumbird]

Thanks OP! Purchased 3 6' HDMI cables for U$21.08 (final price) from MonoPrice.

[pedant]

Sooo... is the Monster Power Centre 950 from FS still a ripoff at 129? http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10087887&catid=10677#

Should I just go for this guy at the Source?
http://www.thesource.ca/estore/Product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=SurgeProtectors&product=6112816

Actually... I was also wondering.. since I've never had a home theatre at all (moving up from 19" Tube TV!! :eek:)... what do I need in terms of power supply. Regular old surge protector? Do I need a UPS? Should I have a UPS? Is there a device that integrates the two (surge protector + UPS)? Any recommendations would be sooo greatly appreciated. I just need some straight answers.

I've already ordered my HDMI cables from Monoprice! Thanks again for this thread!

[redbimmer]

Thanks for the post OP. Still amazes me how many people still fall for this BS. Even CNET put up a holiday reminder:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10120088-1.html?tag=TOCmoreStories.0

I also just wanted to point out that HDMI is HDMI is HDMI, regardless of the any proprietary names e.g. the X360 HDMI cable will work perfectly with your Blu-ray player; the Monster iTV HDMI cable for AppleTV will work perfectly with your PS3; the PS3 HDMI cable will work perfectly with your X360, etc, so don't be afraid to pick up a "specific" HDMI cable if you see one on sale/clearance.

Canada Computers, Sig, and RCSS all have HDMI cables for less than $20 if you can't wait for online delivery.

[shingor6]

Just to clarify something, there's 2 type of signal used analog and digital. With analog the better the cable the better the image quality, think about it like a photocopyer, you can always have more fidelity with a better unit.

For digital, it's only 1 and 0 so think like when you copy a file on your hard-drive, if you copy a copy of a copy, the quality won't decrease. When the signal is sent from the source to the tv, it is sent as 1 and 0 if the signal is poor, the tv will review a 1 that is not of a high quality and the tv will interpret this as a 1, not a half ass 1 with poor quality. If the quality of the cable is really poor and the 1 can't be interpret by the tv, then, you won't have any picture. In that case the cable is just not good enough.

My point is, you won't have a small difference in cable like with analog, but it will either work or don't work.

I hope it's clear for everyone

One final example, use a cheap caluclator, do 2 + 2, what's the answer ??? 4

Use a 500$ calculator and do 2 + 2, what's the answer 4, you won't have a better quality 4, it will just be 4.

The quality won't increase even if you pay 10k$, the only difference, might be the longevity.

[vric]

I fully agree, but the $24 RocketFish (or something like that) isn't half bad.. Sure you can get cheaper online (a monoprice one with shipping will run you at about $14)
Costco also have some 12' HDMI cable for under $30.

[seanster]

I wouldn't totally agree with the works or does not work argument. There exists a grey area where error correction plays a role along with how well the tv can deal with marginal data.

A badly shielded cable will have lousy protection from temporary interference, and it may be broadcasting radio signals around your house causing trouble with other devices.

That said, for most people the cheap cable works just fine and you should always try that first.

[Morphius909]

Goodluck Everyone today!

Protect yourself from the BB/FS/Big Box Upsell of overpriced cables!

[kleptodathief]

cheap monster cables at canadacomputers!

25bux instore and 36$shipped online

http://i43.tinypic.com/2czzziu.jpg

[Matrixvibe]

im guessing most of the people who have been on red flag deals for a while know not to buy the expensive cables...lol

[Sniper001]

cheap monster cables at canadacomputers!

25bux instore and 36$shipped online

http://i43.tinypic.com/2czzziu.jpg

Anybody know if these things are still in stock? Was it only for this day only, or can I pick these up tommorow for the same price?

[Raimond]

monoprice is all you need...

[geronimo]

I will purchase a brand name HDMI cable, rather than a cheap no-name cable. I think there still is a difference in quality, but the Monster brand is more hype/marketing than any other brand. The sad part is that I'm a marketing student, so I shouldn't been able to see through their clever marketing. :razz:

[Firestorm]

Just yesterday a salesman at FS was trying to foist a PSP+hdmi cable on top of a perfectly reasonably priced TV on us :(. FS and every other retailer must have praised the lord when HDTV came about, now they have even more types of overpriced cables to sell.

Yikes. Cables are so boring anyway, who on earth gets excited when they buy a $100 HDMI cable for $50?Like I said, it's better that you buy an overpriced cable than no cable at all. It pains me to know people are out there watching BluRay movies on their $2000 TVs with composite cables.


FS and BestBuy sell an overpriced cable but they didn't set the pricing beyond their usual markup. Monster is really the company you should have your beef with.

However, FS and BB trying to convince customers that they should purchase a MONSTER cable versus their cheapest brand (because they will see and hear a difference) is a little bit of snake-oil sales. That said, even their cheapest cable is way too much at $30The cheap cables sold at retailers are ****. I'd rather have a customer buy a Monster cable than a Electrohome or Energy cable which breaks in less than a month, doesn't display 1080p signals, and has a bunch of staticy weird colour **** in the background.

Buy Monoprice. Do not buy the low priced cables at retail.

[geronimo]

^ What makes Monoprice better than those other cheaply-priced cables?

[seL]

I find it interesting why people will still buy a more expensive cable if a good discount is offered on it. Just because that Monster Cable has been discounted even more and looks all fancy still doesn't change the fact that it CAN'T outperform the $1.96 cables consumers can get from monoprice.

One thing I can't stand at FS or BB is the way they dupe people into paying out of their @$$ for HDMI cables. While shopping for TVs for myself and friends I always overhear someone getting raped on cables, or at least being propositioned for a good raping. While I'd like to step in inform the customer they are getting raped, it's not my place and at the same time I believe that they as a consumer should have done at least some research and have some idea about the purchase they are about to make. I mean come on, when you buy a TV and they try to sell you a cable that costs 1/4 the cost of your TV you SHOULD notice that something is up.

[Firestorm]

^ What makes Monoprice better than those other cheaply-priced cables?Monoprice's cables are HDMI 1.3 compliant. The cables I listed go for $29.99 or $39.99 (3 to 4 times the cost of monoprice) and cannot even output at a signal higher than 720p.

[cuanto]

Just to clarify something, there's 2 type of signal used analog and digital. With analog the better the cable the better the image quality, think about it like a photocopyer, you can always have more fidelity with a better unit.

For digital, it's only 1 and 0 so think like when you copy a file on your hard-drive, if you copy a copy of a copy, the quality won't decrease. When the signal is sent from the source to the tv, it is sent as 1 and 0 if the signal is poor, the tv will review a 1 that is not of a high quality and the tv will interpret this as a 1, not a half ass 1 with poor quality. If the quality of the cable is really poor and the 1 can't be interpret by the tv, then, you won't have any picture. In that case the cable is just not good enough. <snip>

I don’t agree fully with this. While it is to a lesser extent, digital signals do suffer from noise as well so a better cable will produce a better result in certain circumstances. Of course there is a diminishing return to the money you spend on cabling.

[hungryfordeals]

Well, as I have finally bought my first HDTV, I stumbled upon this thread. And after reading through I can honestly say I probably would have gone into one of these moronic electronic stores to purchase them. But...I now have the power of RFD! So, to those stores who think they have control of us - I say 'Take your overpriced cables and unneeded warranties and stick it where the sun don't shine!' BTW-I went with monoprice.com for 3 High Speed HDMI 1.3a Category 2 Certified Cable 28AWG - 6ft. Total $21.08 USD.

[BD006]

For those of you in the GTA, SIG Electronics sells Belkin 6ft HDMI 1.3 cables for $9.99 (cash price). I picked up two, two weeks ago. Not quite as cheap as Monoprice or Loblaws, but still better than spending $100+ on one from FS/BB/etc.

http://www.sigelectronics.com/Electronics/Belkin_2/Belkin-Pure-AV-HDMI-Audio-Avideo-Cable-6

[Mike2000z28]

Well, as I have finally bought my first HDTV, I stumbled upon this thread. And after reading through I can honestly say I probably would have gone into one of these moronic electronic stores to purchase them. But...I now have the power of RFD! So, to those stores who think they have control of us - I say 'Take your overpriced cables and unneeded warranties and stick it where the sun don't shine!' BTW-I went with monoprice.com for 3 High Speed HDMI 1.3a Category 2 Certified Cable 28AWG - 6ft. Total $21.08 USD.

Yup, same deal i got earlier in the thread. 21bucks shipped to my apartment up here. So thats like 24 Cad so 8 bucks a cable tax and shipping in. Great deal for Canucks.

[mgbdragon]

HDMI cables at FS/BB $50-$91. RCSS in westboro only has RCA cables for $40-$50. Loblaws at baseline has "C2 Tech" (gold plated connectors)HDMI cable for $7-10 for 1.5m and $10-15 for 3m cable. Picture quality looks fine to me, but I'll be the first to admit that I'm no a techy or picture quality expert, but I'd take the Loblaws cables in a second.

[Constellation]

Digital is digital so there really shouldn't be, if any, loss in quality between different cables be they gold-plated or whatnot.

[bmnb4tches]

Ok, besides Loblaws, what actual STORE can I physically walk into, and purchase a quality HDMI cable at an acceptable price, from the STORE itself?

Basically, I'm looking for a non-monoprize, non-interweb answer.

[Ghetto_Child]

Here's the Market Place episode for all to watch and/or read http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/packing_the_deal/

[thehockeyguy]

Here's the Market Place episode for all to watch and/or read http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/packing_the_deal/

wow, i guess i'll buy my cable online..

futureshop and bestbuy doesn't want these customers to see that for sure.. :cheesygri

[Ghetto_Child]

Ok, besides Loblaws, what actual STORE can I physically walk into, and purchase a quality HDMI cable at an acceptable price, from the STORE itself?

Basically, I'm looking for a non-monoprize, non-interweb answer.

MicroBytes is a safe bet http://www.microbytes.com/computer/ordinateur/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=hdmi&page=1&sort=6a , honestly you can go to any retail store to get your cables just don't be fooled into buying expensive brand name ones. You can buy generic cables from any retail store and they will work equally. Futureshop should have generic cables too. So don't pay more than $20 depending on the length. To give you an idea of what you're actually buying in terms of technical specs/materials/content
ethernet cable = component video cables, if you clipped off the ends everything inside is the same and interchangeable
HDMI cables similar to advanced firewire cables
we all know how much these cables cost to buy so why are comparable cable types so different in price?

Addison Electronics (Montreal only)
HDMI query https://www.addison-electronique.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=hdmi&page=1&sort=4a&osCsid=f8d3c437600f83017547b528126a710f

here's one on the upper limit of what anyone should pay
8' $20 cable http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10111124&catid=26886


I really want to see the person that buys these cables lol
30ft $400 http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10061187&catid=25326

10M $400 http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10098876&catid=25326

75M $600 http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10089406&catid=25326



SEE THIS THREAD 675212:arrowd:
I just thought I would post my experience of searching for a fairly priced 6 foot HDMI cable.

First of all I immediately removed from consideration anything over $20, because paying more than that would be simply throwing my money away. I checked a couple local computer stores in Ottawa that had them priced around $17, but they were out of stock. Then I checked Walmart, Zellers, The Source, Futureshop, and none of these places had any HDMI cables under $30, and most were in the $50 - $80+ range. This is really a shame because most people will assume this is a fair price since most places are marking them up now.

Finally I checked Loblaws of all places and what do I find? C2 Tech brand 6' HDMI cables with gold plated connections selling for $6.99! They also had them in 14' lengths for 14.99. While I was there, I also picked up a digital coaxial audio cable for 9.99. It seems Loblaws is one of the last retail stores selling these cables at a fair price; thanks to them!

If you're looking to pick up some cables for your new HDTV this christmas, ignore the sales pitch of the BB/FS sales person and head to Loblaws or check online!

[mgbdragon]

Here's the Market Place episode for all to watch and/or read http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/packing_the_deal/

That's awesome. Surprised FS agreed to the interview and BB didn't considering they are essentially the same.

[chenwaa123]

Waaay of topic.... but for those of you that use tonner catridges at home or work Monoprice is great. I saved my company about $250 last year.

I've never had a problem with any of their cables. I've purchased about 12 different cables so far. HDMI, component, USB, optical.

[Stingers]

I just bought this cable ^^

http://cgi.ebay.ca/HDMI-Cable-6ft-1-3-1080P-FOR-xbox-PS3-TO-DVD-LCD-HDTV_W0QQitemZ230316095404QQihZ013QQcategoryZ14997 4QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l126 2

[J-Wo]

Wow that's a pretty good price Stingers. Free shipping from Hong Kong even, that beats Monoprice. Let us know how long it takes to come from HK and how good the packaging is

[Ghetto_Child]

Waaay of topic.... but for those of you that use tonner catridges at home or work Monoprice is great. I saved my company about $250 last year.

I've never had a problem with any of their cables. I've purchased about 12 different cables so far. HDMI, component, USB, optical.
Just keep in mind cheap cables could mean Made in China which could also mean a much higher amount of lead and mercury hence being so cheap.

[Monsieurmaggot]

However, I'd rather have someone buy a $100 Monster HDMI cable then use the damn composite cable the BluRay players and PS3s come with.

As a broadcast professional, when I walk into the Sony Store, BB, Future Shop or any other big box store, I am completely amazed on what they're displaying on screen. Some signals are so compressed they're unwatchable. Sad part is 99% of the people out there have never really seen an uncompressed HD signal. Many signals are simple SD upconverts to widescreen which fill the screen. A lot of the programming seen on HD TVs off cable or satellite are native anamorphic pictures that are upconverted to HD.

Having said that, I seriously doubt anyone out there could tell the difference watching HDMI versus component particularly when watching HD TV. Video Games or Blue Ray players is another story.

Then there are the noobs who watch Bell ExpressVu, a 720p service on a 1080 screen. Or watch 1080 services on 720p screens.

The big box stores thrive on those people.

I was recently in Best Buy listening to a teenager give a sales pitch to a middle-aged man. The question was "what's the difference between the the term "P" and "I" seen on literature?"

The kid said, "P" means that's a progressively scanned picture, each scan line is displayed in sequential order". Very impressive. Then he sunk himself: "I" means an interweaved picture" "It is scanned both horizontally and vertically"

I'm guessing what he was saying is that any 1080i signal is much better since it's scanned twice! I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I was hoping to hear the explanation of a 1080p signal.

The logic that is used by the Box Box stores is simple: If you're paying sometimes $1000s for a monitor, a couple of extra hundred dollars will ensure you will see the best possible picture. That might have made sense when displays were $4 or 5k. But with sub-$1000 units on the market, a 10+% markup for cabling is insane.

[thehockeyguy]

I just bought this cable ^^

http://cgi.ebay.ca/HDMI-Cable-6ft-1-3-1080P-FOR-xbox-PS3-TO-DVD-LCD-HDTV_W0QQitemZ230316095404QQihZ013QQcategoryZ14997 4QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l126 2

nice price... let me know too.. i might order a couple of those.. :razz:

[way2quik]

Everyone recommends monoprice.com
I've ordered 3 HDMI cables and a 25ft ethernet cable in the past.
Shipping takes under 2 weeks.
Their customer service is excellent, but the rep I had couldn't speak fluent English.:confused:

[Ghetto_Child]

Could someone, maybe monsieurmaggot, explain to me what are good ratios of tv screen size to tv resolution? I'm trying to find out why on a 32" a 720p and a 1080p are supposedly un-noticeable? What's a good line size for tv resolution?

[_pOtEnZa_]

Could someone, maybe monsieurmaggot, explain to me what are good ratios of tv screen size to tv resolution? I'm trying to find out why on a 32" a 720p and a 1080p are supposedly un-noticeable? What's a good line size for tv resolution?

its all about your distance from your tv : http://www.carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/

http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.png

[Canuck2fan]

How about Surge protectors... Anyone know of good reasonably priced surge protectors for your HDTV and home theatre equipment?

While it is not cheap the most cost effective surge protection is one that wires into your electrical panel. It stops any outside surge right there. When you think of the number of electronic devices that could get hit in your entire house it really is a no brainer to get one installed.

Then for each set of devices ie computer, entertainment center. You can get by with the 19.99 belkins that Dell is always promoting.

Now days with almost every electrical appliance having a chip or board in them stopping a surge as it enters the house could save you thousands.

[ImJJ]

Picked up the last HDMI cable in Markham Loblaws for 10 bucks...thanks op

For surge protectors, I bought Belkin from Factory Direct for 20 bucks during their boxing day sale...I went there yesterday again and they sold out though

[Monsieurmaggot]

its all about your distance from your tv : http://www.carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/

http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.png

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I get asked this question all the time: What's the best TV I should buy?. I equate it to "what car should I buy"?

It's completely subjective and a personal choice. It's a fine line between what you want, need and can afford.

I would still stress that your input device plays a huge part in what you see.

Some of the US HD channels on some providers are so compressed it really doesn't matter what cabling you use or what display you have.

The compression rate differs movie to movie.

The fact that someone has a 1080p display doesn't mean they'll necessarily get a better picture than someone using a 720p unit. There are so many factors influencing a display. Cabling is just one of them.

Off the top of my head:

Screen size (subjective).
Refresh rate.
Distance and angle viewed.
Contrast.
Cabling.
Service provider (1080 or 720).
Is the service provider cross-converting? NBC and CBS are 1080i. Fox and ABC are 720p. I can guarantee your service provider is cross-converting at least two of these services.
Was the signal frame rate converted? (from film to video)
Are you cross-converting (watching 1080 cable on a 720 unit or a 720 service like Bell TV on a 1080 display)?
Is the signal SD 16:9 or true HD? - most can't tell the difference. Many local Toronto broadcasters upconvert anamorphic feeds to simulate HD. Do you really think a local merchant produces his/her commercial in HD? C'mon.
Compression used for delivery.
Bells and whistles on display to enhance colour/signal reproduction
Noise Reduction

In the world of HD, you also get what you pay for. There is merit to 120Hz. displays. 1080p is great if your movie is 1080p. No one broadcasts 1080p so your display is converting the display to/from 1080i or 720p to your device's native resolution. Some displays can change accordingly.

[Stingers]

Wow that's a pretty good price Stingers. Free shipping from Hong Kong even, that beats Monoprice. Let us know how long it takes to come from HK and how good the packaging is

According to the email they sent me, it is shipped within 36 hours and usually takes about 8-12 days to arrive.

I'll let you guys know when I receive it ;)

[MMMM]

Wow, great thread OP. The CBC video is excellent and should be required viewing for all about to make a big screen purchase. Thanks for the link to Moneprice. Saved a chunk on home theatre cables and outlets.

[kleptodathief]

for me i DEFINITELY find a difference in terms of grafix from 1920x1080 vs 1280x720 when i play ps3 or xbox360(all 360 games r 1080p?) well the ones i played have all been

i sit bout 6 feet away

and getting a 120 hz tv will also make ur gaming xperience better, i still get motion blur on my tv ( mine is only 60hz)

[Ghetto_Child]

Some recent decent retail store HDMI cable finds see my thread here 682349

[EngineNo9]

best place to get dvi to hdmi in GTA( TOronto) ?
preferably 6ft...

mono price is sold out

[Firestorm]

for me i DEFINITELY find a difference in terms of grafix from 1920x1080 vs 1280x720 when i play ps3 or xbox360(all 360 games r 1080p?) well the ones i played have all been

i sit bout 6 feet away

and getting a 120 hz tv will also make ur gaming xperience better, i still get motion blur on my tv ( mine is only 60hz)That's called the "placebo effect". You think it's better because you think it should be better. I highly doubt all the games you've played are the very,very, few 360 and PS3 games that render natively at 1080p. Changing your dashboard setting does not change your PS3/360 game resolutions.

It upscales it but it's not really 1080p.

[Stingers]

I just bought this cable ^^

http://cgi.ebay.ca/HDMI-Cable-6ft-1-3-1080P-FOR-xbox-PS3-TO-DVD-LCD-HDTV_W0QQitemZ230316095404QQihZ013QQcategoryZ14997 4QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l126 2

Received it today (Bought it on Dec.28)

Here are some pics

http://thumbnails2.imagebam.com/2315/bfaf1723147348.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/bfaf1723147348)

http://thumbnails2.imagebam.com/2315/7e068623147349.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/7e068623147349)

http://thumbnails5.imagebam.com/2315/f476e423147351.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/f476e423147351)

I'll now go test it ^^

EDIT: Works flawlessly ^^

[cityslicker]

I bought my HDMI cable from Dell. They are Belkin with a lifetime warranty and they were only $17.99 for a 6ft 1080p HDMI 1.3 with free shipping. I ordered them on Tuesday and received them on Thursday.

If you live in Montreal you can also order from Abbra electronics on Cote de Liesse, they have similar prices, but no lifetime warranty.

[Stingers]

I bought my HDMI cable from Dell. They are Belkin with a lifetime warranty and they were only $17.99 for a 6ft 1080p HDMI 1.3 with free shipping. I ordered them on Tuesday and received them on Thursday.

If you live in Montreal you can also order from Abbra electronics on Cote de Liesse, they have similar prices, but no lifetime warranty.

I don't really see why it would be usefull to have a lifetime warranty on a HDMI cable

[cityslicker]

I mentioned the lifetime warranty for people who pretend that Monster are the best in part due to their lifetime warranty. Belkin cable are offering the same warranty at a fraction of the cost of a monster cable.

[fantom]

Thinking of shelling out money on a Monster cable?

Then you're just plain stupid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIf8HLZK6a8