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drunag
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:01 PM
If the Prime Minister came up to you and said "hey bud(gal), gimme your ONE best idea that you want to see passed through the government, and I'll make sure it gets passed." what would you say?

I'll start off with a really simple request...
Make all the prices posted in stores and quoted for services be tax inclusive. None of this "$399 plus tax!", i want to see "$450 (tax included)!" or something of that sort. I believe the UK has something like that.

It especially throws the tourists off "it says $399 why you charging me $450??"

lol

might seem dumb, but that's what I want.

next?

and please don't bash the comments

:)

Hairball
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:03 PM
I can see this getting political as usual... but the PM doesn't necessarily have power over that.

I am not sure the federal government can force stores to show prices including tax, as I believe that is a provincial responsibility. I think stores do have the option of including tax on prices right now, but it's just that most don't.

ricoboxing
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:06 PM
capital punishment to murderers, pedophiles (including pedobear), and rapists

ullyeus
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:07 PM
Tax everyone equally, either by set amount of percentage. If I make more I shouldn't get taxed more.

Snicla
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:09 PM
Stricter rules on taxes, especially for the rich and the corporations.

ullyeus
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:11 PM
Stricter rules on taxes, especially for the rich and the corporations.

I would try to clarify what I meant by "rules" if I had only one chance with the PM.

AmberMoon
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:14 PM
Tougher laws on criminals who are minors. None of this "well they are under 14
" crap. If they commit a crime then it should be the same punishment for minor as it is for adult.

ullyeus
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:18 PM
Tougher laws on criminals who are minors. None of this "well they are under 14
" crap. If they commit a crime then it should be the same punishment for minor as it is for adult.

While I am all up for tougher laws on minors who are criminals I find it a tiny bit interesting that you think they should have the exact same punishment.

Are you implying that all minors under 14 have the same reasoning capacity as adults?

bokep
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:18 PM
I can see this getting political as usual... but the PM doesn't necessarily have power over that.

I am not sure the federal government can force stores to show prices including tax, as I believe that is a provincial responsibility. I think stores do have the option of including tax on prices right now, but it's just that most don't.

you're missing the point of the thread

i'd like to see tougher sentences for crimes relating to tax (fraud, evasion), whether it be the average joe or govt officials mismanaging taxpayers money.

bokep
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:23 PM
While I am all up for tougher laws on minors who are criminals I find it a tiny bit interesting that you think they should have the exact same punishment.

Are you implying that all minors under 14 have the same reasoning capacity as adults?

well you can argue that because the crime committed is the same, thus the end result is the same. the grief a family experiences when they a family member gets shot dead by an 18 year old is no different than if it was done by a 13 year old.

although i see your point as people pleading insanity for a crime get treated differently. it would depend if you would like to look at sentencing based on the criminal, or the crime commited against society.

maebach
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:30 PM
capital punishment to murderers, pedophiles (including pedobear), and rapists

+1 . Im also not a fan of the refugee status either. File the paper work like everyone else and wait. If not, go somewhere else.

mightylobo
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:35 PM
I would not allow dumb cases in the court and reduce children rights. They think they are so badass going into court and beating their parents. (Dad not allowing kid go on field trip)

ji2o0k
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:38 PM
As PM, I would make it a law that Shania Twain has to marry me...........w00t!

Majinvegeta
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:40 PM
+1 . Im also not a fan of the refugee status either. File the paper work like everyone else and wait. If not, go somewhere else.

Yea and it took us 8 years to become Canadian Citizens (We were legal immigrants before, not refugees).

If I have one thing to say, FIX YOUR PATHETIC EXCUSE OF A IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. Make it faster and easier, the more population in this country, the bigger and better it will become.

And don't worry, people will move over to the other areas of the country, not just Vancouver or Toronto.

danfromwaterloo
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:42 PM
Make all public transportation free.

whampoa
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:43 PM
Easy as 1,2,3

1) Abolish the Federal Reserve Corporation
2) Go back to gold standard
3) Do away with complex income tax, and institute proportional tax system.

And if any laugh at this idea, just remember that's how Canadian and American economy is like just before WW1.

JuGGERNAUT
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:43 PM
...

I'll start off with a really simple request...
Make all the prices posted in stores and quoted for services be tax inclusive. None of this "$399 plus tax!", i want to see "$450 (tax included)!" or something of that sort. I believe the UK has something like that.
....


I don't like this idea because I want to know how much the government is taking from me. I also don't trust stores to adjust the price accordingly when / if there is a tax cut. But thats just my opinion.

As for what I would do....Im not a fan of CPP. You have to contribute all that money which is also matched by your employer and when you die your estate gets $2500. Kinda sucks if your only able to collect a couple years of benefits.

Spidey
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:47 PM
Get rid of the penny, either round it up or down to the next 5 cents

bokep
Feb 6th, 2009, 01:52 PM
MORATORIUM ON IMMIGRATION FOR 10 YEARS

Our strained infrastructure cannot support 300,000+ people coming into this country per year settling mostly in Toronto. We haven't built a new hospital in 37 years. Our health system is being strained by the weak being let in (dialysis machines are at maximum capacity due to certain groups having genetic kidney problems). We need to build a stronger society for everyone, regardless of class, creed or colour. We are all bound by the fabric of human decency, and should uphold the principles of this country as contributing citizens. We are not a fractured and factionalized society of "your culture first, be Canadian second". We are all Canadian, but a lot of people come here just for the "perks" and do not integrate with everyone else, and transpose their hatred and bring their beliefs and wars to this peaceful nation.

Regardless of this, a moratorium on immigration is not a racial thing- it's an economic problem. We cannot promise new immigrants a better life if there aren't even jobs for the people who are already here. Even simpler than that, it is a SUPPLY vs. DEMAND problem. It's unfair for new people as well as citizens if we cannot provide a higher standard of living for everyone. More money being used for a smaller population = higher standard of living.

just one thing: canada's population would be declining if it weren't for immigration

drunag
Feb 6th, 2009, 02:04 PM
I don't like this idea because I want to know how much the government is taking from me. I also don't trust stores to adjust the price accordingly when / if there is a tax cut. But thats just my opinion.


hmm.. thats true... but i guess they can get aorund that by showing the retail price and taxes seperate on the receipt (like they do already).

abu_sme
Feb 6th, 2009, 02:12 PM
MORATORIUM ON IMMIGRATION FOR 10 YEARS

Our strained infrastructure cannot support 300,000+ people coming into this country per year settling mostly in Toronto. We haven't built a new hospital in 37 years. Our health system is being strained by the weak being let in (dialysis machines are at maximum capacity due to certain groups having genetic kidney problems). We need to build a stronger society for everyone, regardless of class, creed or colour. We are all bound by the fabric of human decency, and should uphold the principles of this country as contributing citizens. We are not a fractured and factionalized society of "your culture first, be Canadian second". We are all Canadian, but a lot of people come here just for the "perks" and do not integrate with everyone else, and transpose their hatred and bring their beliefs and wars to this peaceful nation.

Regardless of this, a moratorium on immigration is not a racial thing- it's a solution to an economic problem. We cannot promise new immigrants a better life if there aren't even jobs for the people who are already here. Even simpler than that, it is a SUPPLY vs. DEMAND problem. It's unfair for new people as well as citizens if we cannot provide a higher standard of living for everyone. More money being used for a smaller population = higher standard of living.

:rolleyes:

Take an economics course.

First.Dog
Feb 6th, 2009, 02:22 PM
If the Prime Minister came up to you and said "hey bud(gal), gimme your ONE best idea that you want to see passed through the government, and I'll make sure it gets passed." what would you say?

I'll start off with a really simple request...
Make all the prices posted in stores and quoted for services be tax inclusive. None of this "$399 plus tax!", i want to see "$450 (tax included)!" or something of that sort. I believe the UK has something like that.

It especially throws the tourists off "it says $399 why you charging me $450??"


I'd like to see two prices on a sticker... the advertised price of $399 & the tax-in price of $###.##.

Otherwise, the Fed should legalize maryjane and tax the hell out of it. This would probably pay off the debt in 10 years while reducing the level of organized crime.

st7860
Feb 6th, 2009, 02:59 PM
make judges more accountable.
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Safety+community+stake+over+Bacon+brother+Port+Moo dy+mayor/1258340/story.html

AmberMoon
Feb 6th, 2009, 03:01 PM
While I am all up for tougher laws on minors who are criminals I find it a tiny bit interesting that you think they should have the exact same punishment.

Are you implying that all minors under 14 have the same reasoning capacity as adults?

I think as long as they know right from wrong then their age should not be a factor. Too many times I have seen the legal system fail because the criminal was a minor and the ones left to suffer are the familys that the crime effects

If a 14 year old rapes a 7 year old should that 14 year old be slapped on the hands and set home? Or should they be held accountable for their actions since its almost a guarantee that the 14 year old knows the difference between right and wrong? And yes it happens

If a 13 year old brings a gun to their school and shoots a student and a teacher, should this 12 year old be let off with a 5 year sentence ( released at the age of 18) or should they be held accountable for the their actions yet again

there are tons of different scenarios that i think minors should be held accountable for their actions as if they were adults and some that I could understand to chalk up to being a kid. Murder, Rape, Torture, Attempted homicide ect should be punished by the fullest extent of the law regardless of age. Petty crimes that have no cause and effect i could see being prosecuted as a minor for but not the serious crimes that effect other familys for years

CheapScotsman
Feb 6th, 2009, 03:12 PM
Ban all forms of taxation ... that should result in some interesting changes.

okay ... some thing a bit more practical

All non private companies (such as government organizations, crown corporations, publicly traded companies and companies with publicly traded investments (like mutual funds, etc)) have their executive compensations capped. The largest compensation package is limited to 10 times the lowest in the organization.

Example; Janitor makes 40k a year, gets 2k bonus and 100 options priced 10% below market .... CEO limited to 400k, gets 20k bonus and 1000 options priced 10% below market.

Peckerwood
Feb 6th, 2009, 03:13 PM
I would turn the country into a Libertarian Republic.

:)

Bye Bye Queenie

alamshahid
Feb 6th, 2009, 04:03 PM
1) set a death penalty for those in any way connected to child porn
2) set a death penalty for those convicted killing someone while drunk driving
3) set a death penalty for those who kill children
4) make taxes optional, those who pay taxes get benefit of it; those who don't can't use ANY of the services

Jon Lai
Feb 6th, 2009, 04:10 PM
Give incentives to people who are willing to move up to Nunavut, such as a free house. Let's say it's worth $200K each. Spend $1 billion to build the houses and another $1 billion for infrastructure and get 5000 people to live there, start several communities of around 1-2 thousand people each. Place these communities in strategic locations such as the openings on the Canadian Internal Waters. Everyone in the communities would be hired as coast guards or supporting tasks for those that are not fit, such as call operators and desk workers.

That outta stop the Americans and Russians.

PS. The $2 Billion dollars spent here is much more efficient than all the money's that's been spent on things that prove to have little to no effect to our nation. Plus, this also takes 5000 people out of recession.

Asmegin
Feb 6th, 2009, 04:10 PM
1) set a death penalty for those in any way connected to child porn
2) set a death penalty for those convicted killing someone while drunk driving
3) set a death penalty for those who kill children
4) make taxes optional, those who pay taxes get benefit of it; those who don't can't use ANY of the services

And here's to you never becoming PM! :eek:

danfromwaterloo
Feb 6th, 2009, 04:24 PM
1) set a death penalty for those in any way connected to child porn
2) set a death penalty for those convicted killing someone while drunk driving
3) set a death penalty for those who kill children
4) make taxes optional, those who pay taxes get benefit of it; those who don't can't use ANY of the services

1) Not as clearcut as you may think. If a 16 year old boy gets a photo message from his 16 year old girlfriend topless, he'd be killed.

2) What if the person is 0.00001 over the legal limit and has a higher tolerance to alcohol than someone else. If the other person was at fault for the accident....

3) What if you were in a car accident where a child died?

4) How do you stop a person from using roads? How do you stop a person from using the military? Or stop their children from going to school?

dealguy2
Feb 6th, 2009, 04:29 PM
Eliminate corporate income taxes and capital gains taxes completely.

gwu
Feb 6th, 2009, 04:33 PM
1) set a death penalty for those in any way connected to child porn
2) set a death penalty for those convicted killing someone while drunk driving
3) set a death penalty for those who kill children
4) make taxes optional, those who pay taxes get benefit of it; those who don't can't use ANY of the services

5) Remove the young offenders act. You're lying to yourself if you still think that a 15 year old with a gun doesn't know that it could seriously hurt someone.
Idiot kids grow up to be idiot adults.

ullyeus
Feb 8th, 2009, 04:19 AM
well you can argue that because the crime committed is the same, thus the end result is the same. the grief a family experiences when they a family member gets shot dead by an 18 year old is no different than if it was done by a 13 year old.

although i see your point as people pleading insanity for a crime get treated differently. it would depend if you would like to look at sentencing based on the criminal, or the crime commited against society.

I suppose it would come down to whether you want the justice system to be a punishment based system...or to offer rehabilitation...

Rishi
Feb 8th, 2009, 04:25 AM
Require proficiency in English or French BEFORE landing for all immigrants. Exception only for refugees in immediate danger.

cheeseshredder
Feb 8th, 2009, 04:29 AM
Thank god you guys aren't involved in any political decisions.

There are too many changes that are based on lack of understanding/misconceptions.

Vascilli
Feb 8th, 2009, 04:30 AM
Axe any funding of private schools. My former junior high is asking for $20 million to build a theater, for a school of 700 (ALL grades, preschool through 12) which comes out to over 28k per student in funding compared to the average of 3k per student per year for private schools. I'm gonna flip if they get that money, imagine the better ways it could be spent.

Rishi
Feb 8th, 2009, 04:41 AM
Axe any funding of private schools. My former junior high is asking for $20 million to build a theater, for a school of 700 (ALL grades, preschool through 12) which comes out to over 28k per student in funding compared to the average of 3k per student per year for private schools. I'm gonna flip if they get that money, imagine the better ways it could be spent.
Not a federal issue.

mjolnir117
Feb 8th, 2009, 04:11 PM
Pull our troops out of Afghanistan.

Evil Baby
Feb 8th, 2009, 05:10 PM
1. I would completely change the way we handle our garbage and recycling.

Instead of the law abiding citizen being responsible for doing it, they'd throw everything in one garbage bag. The garbage would be sent to a sortation plant where criminals would work 8 hour shifts like everybody else sorting through all of the garbage.

That way absolutely everything could be recycled and it would add 1 more deterrent to becoming a criminal.


2. If feasible every license would be taxed a little bit more and and drivers license could be used on any transit system in Canada.

3. I would raise the fines for littering and allow people to send in time stamped videos of catching people littering.(especially the jack***es who throw their smokes out the window. If you're dirty enough to smoke you're dirty enough to keep it in your own car). If the video is verified the person who sent the tape in would get some cash in return.

hagbard
Feb 8th, 2009, 05:15 PM
One thing? I guess eliminate the income tax. If there was a way to do it politically, I'd eliminate the federal gov't entirely.


I would turn the country into a Libertarian Republic.

:)

Bye Bye Queenie

Yep, pretty much. Though I'd ideally bring that to its logical conclusion. The limited approach didn't work very well for the USofA.


BTW, there sure are a lot of hard core authoritarians on RFDs. I'm guessing (by observation) that first generation immigrates are the worst of the lot. ;)

HSK
Feb 8th, 2009, 05:37 PM
Immigration moratorium is stupid. We need MORE young immigrant families to foot the bill for the old, dying and extremely expensive local population.

But we still need immigration reform.

If you're going to award immigrants points for skills they have make sure you have jobs for them to fill. Many accountants, doctors and engineers are brought into our country on the basis of their qualifications but end up driving taxis and serving donuts.

Either stop assigning points for education or make sure the education can translate into a job. We have lots of educated people but have no way of putting them to good use.

Jon Lai
Feb 8th, 2009, 05:41 PM
1. I would completely change the way we handle our garbage and recycling.

Instead of the law abiding citizen being responsible for doing it, they'd throw everything in one garbage bag. The garbage would be sent to a sortation plant where criminals would work 8 hour shifts like everybody else sorting through all of the garbage.

That way absolutely everything could be recycled and it would add 1 more deterrent to becoming a criminal.

Do you realize how costly that would be?

spf1971
Feb 8th, 2009, 05:48 PM
4) make taxes optional, those who pay taxes get benefit of it; those who don't can't use ANY of the services

How would you control that?
Police, Fire departments etc all have a register? You call, they check, sorry no service for you!

What about the streets? They're paid for by taxes. You're not allowed outside your house?

No water, no sewer, no garbage pick up?

Evil Baby
Feb 8th, 2009, 06:01 PM
Do you realize how costly that would be?

how would it be more costly than the current affairs. We already have sortation plants. We play I bet more than free to non criminals to work at those sortation plants.

We need trucks that can be used for recyling(usually 3 different chambers on the side) and for garbage(usually 2 chambers at the back). The cost of the landfill for everything that isn't recycled including the huge cost Toronto pays just to truck out its garbage.


Instead you have 1 administration, 1 type of truck, and multiple plants. Make the criminals work 8 hours a day for free to help repay their debt to society. No doubt that there would be cost and clearly this would only work in larger city centers where criminals are housed but I think it's feasible. Heck we could even have the U.S. pay us to house their criminals while we make them work :)

hagbard
Feb 8th, 2009, 06:20 PM
How would you control that?
Police, Fire departments etc all have a register? You call, they check, sorry no service for you!

The people with the greatest incentive here are insurance companies. They'd either provide such services (directly or indirectly) or mandate that you carry such services.


What about the streets? They're paid for by taxes. You're not allowed outside your house?

New arrangements would evolve.


No water, no sewer, no garbage pick up?

Local government or private neighborhood associations are two possibilities. btw, lots of municipalities don't offer garbage pickup...that's a responsibility for homeowners.

Jon Lai
Feb 8th, 2009, 07:05 PM
how would it be more costly than the current affairs. We already have sortation plants. We play I bet more than free to non criminals to work at those sortation plants.

We need trucks that can be used for recyling(usually 3 different chambers on the side) and for garbage(usually 2 chambers at the back). The cost of the landfill for everything that isn't recycled including the huge cost Toronto pays just to truck out its garbage.


Instead you have 1 administration, 1 type of truck, and multiple plants. Make the criminals work 8 hours a day for free to help repay their debt to society. No doubt that there would be cost and clearly this would only work in larger city centers where criminals are housed but I think it's feasible. Heck we could even have the U.S. pay us to house their criminals while we make them work :)

You have no idea what you're trying to impose. To use "criminals" for this type of work is against many Canadian laws, I'm assuming. Plus, this implies garbage would need to be delivered to prisons and recycling facilities would have to be built there - that costs money.

I mean, I can't say the idea is bad, but the startup cost is enormous when facilities already currently exist. Why can't you people just throw the damn things in the right containers? How is that too much to ask? Do your own part as a citizen and the government will take care of the rest. I find that too many people demand all or most of the work done by the government to make things "simpler" for them just because they have paid taxes.

Jon Lai
Feb 8th, 2009, 07:08 PM
The people with the greatest incentive here are insurance companies. They'd either provide such services (directly or indirectly) or mandate that you carry such services.



New arrangements would evolve.



Local government or private neighborhood associations are two possibilities. btw, lots of municipalities don't offer garbage pickup...that's a responsibility for homeowners.

Your idea is full of bull. The whole purpose of a government is to set rules and regulations for a group of people. If you don't like the taxes imposed here, go to another country. There are another 180+ countries out there so you can "shop around".

Peckerwood
Feb 8th, 2009, 07:17 PM
BTW, there sure are a lot of hard core authoritarians on RFDs. I'm guessing (by observation) that first generation immigrates are the worst of the lot. ;)
Many of them are addicted to authority and show signs of battered voter syndrome to boot. Rampant officialism FTL

;)

Audiogenic
Feb 8th, 2009, 07:18 PM
The one thing I would change is for a political party to exist and run Federally they must have at least 1 seat outside 1 province which would mean bye bye Bloc.

Peckerwood
Feb 8th, 2009, 07:18 PM
If you don't like the taxes imposed here, go to another country.
Make me...I dare you

;)

Lulz
Feb 8th, 2009, 07:57 PM
I'd ask PM to have stricter laws regarding speeding/street racing/dangerous driving.

Speeding over limit by 50 or more: $5000 + suspension of DL for 1 year.

Drinking under influence: $10000 + suspension for 2 years.
Next offense: Car taken away + additional suspension of 2 years.
Third offense: Car taken away again + jail time for 6 months.
All proceeds of fines and car sales will go to Children's Services.

Jon Lai
Feb 8th, 2009, 07:59 PM
Make me...I dare you

;)

I know this isn't a serious thread but, to give you a serious answer - I don't want to nor do I need to. You chose to live here, so you must bear the good and bad. Don't complain about the bad but continue taking what's good.

Jon Lai
Feb 8th, 2009, 08:00 PM
The one thing I would change is for a political party to exist and run Federally they must have at least 1 seat outside 1 province which would mean bye bye Bloc.

A bit too much hatred towards the Bloc, no? The Bloc does no harm staying on the federal level because they'll never form government anyways.

pierrefleur
Feb 8th, 2009, 08:11 PM
legalize mj

Peckerwood
Feb 8th, 2009, 08:43 PM
I know this isn't a serious thread but, to give you a serious answer - I don't want to nor do I need to. You chose to live here, so you must bear the good and bad. Don't complain about the bad but continue taking what's good.
:rolleyes:

My location has little to do with the desire of others to score money out of my pocketbook.

They have nothing I want nor need...if I want to engage in their programs then I will CHOOSE to put money towards them as my share in such. But forcing me to hand over money upon the threat of either jail or loss of citizenship is a racketeering scheme best put forth by the likes of organized crime.

:)

mavericknm
Feb 8th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Minimum number of community service hours for all citizens per year, with exception to the elderly, young, disabled and so on. Hours should be bankable to a certain extent. Also a huge increase over the measly 40 hours for Ontario students. I believe other provinces have it higher.

Evil Baby
Feb 8th, 2009, 10:08 PM
You have no idea what you're trying to impose. To use "criminals" for this type of work is against many Canadian laws, I'm assuming. Plus, this implies garbage would need to be delivered to prisons and recycling facilities would have to be built there - that costs money.

I mean, I can't say the idea is bad, but the startup cost is enormous when facilities already currently exist. Why can't you people just throw the damn things in the right containers? How is that too much to ask? Do your own part as a citizen and the government will take care of the rest. I find that too many people demand all or most of the work done by the government to make things "simpler" for them just because they have paid taxes.

The cost of our recycling programs are enormous and the sad fact is that people don't follow it. It's more than clear to me that people can't be trusted to recycle correctly. Of course the start costs are expensive, most start up cost to any project would be, but the environmental aspect will certainly make up for it.


As for the criminal code and what we make prisioners do, clearly I'm of the opinion that those laws must be changed. If the job is safe enough for the regular joe to do then it's sure as hell safe enough for an inmate to do. If you don't want to work for free for 8 hours a day in some stink hole don't be a freaken criminial.

Jon Lai
Feb 8th, 2009, 10:13 PM
:rolleyes:

My location has little to do with the desire of others to score money out of my pocketbook.

They have nothing I want nor need...if I want to engage in their programs then I will CHOOSE to put money towards them as my share in such. But forcing me to hand over money upon the threat of either jail or loss of citizenship is a racketeering scheme best put forth by the likes of organized crime.

:)

Unfortunately the area you want to live in is "owned" and "governed" by a country that imposes laws on the land. Like I said, if you don't like it, then leave :P

You want to complicate the system more than how complicated it already is. People in the same country are supposed to stick together.

cheapmeister
Feb 8th, 2009, 11:00 PM
Make separate hwys for trucks.
Make 407 1cent/km
Make more hwys.
Install red light cameras at every intersection.
Bring back photo radar.
Make gas 50/litre year round and have the gov't pay the rest of the cost.
Build more libraries.
Reduce landing fees at pierson airport and make parking free.

Peckerwood
Feb 8th, 2009, 11:24 PM
Unfortunately the area you want to live in is "owned" and "governed" by a country that imposes laws on the land. Like I said, if you don't like it, then leave :P
They think they own it...they don't.

And I don't like it...and I am not going anywhere. So either they will have to use force and violence...or they will have to simply back off. I see no middle ground in this.

You want to complicate the system more than how complicated it already is.
If anything it would make it simpler by removing the middle men(gov't) from the equation. such middle men have a tendency to boost the prices of things, as well as excess paperwork.

People in the same country are supposed to stick together.
Nationalism...Socialism...Authoritarianism

Where have we seen this combo before?...hmmmmm

vrus
Feb 8th, 2009, 11:26 PM
remove the senate

hurtstopee
Feb 8th, 2009, 11:27 PM
get rid of unions :P

edit: oh and no $10 minimum wage crap...it doesn't work, layton!

rommelrommel
Feb 9th, 2009, 04:39 AM
Delete Jon_Lai from RFD.

But seriously, reform the monetary system. We wouldn't need immigration or have most of the problems that people are trying to fix in this thread if not for fractional reserve banking and all the evils it entails.

pierrefleur
Feb 9th, 2009, 07:38 AM
Expel Quebec from the federation.

:D

hagbard
Feb 9th, 2009, 07:46 AM
They think they own it...they don't.

And I don't like it...and I am not going anywhere. So either they will have to use force and violence...or they will have to simply back off. I see no middle ground in this.

If anything it would make it simpler by removing the middle men(gov't) from the equation. such middle men have a tendency to boost the prices of things, as well as excess paperwork.

Nationalism...Socialism...Authoritarianism

Where have we seen this combo before?...hmmmmm

Aren't you glad we don't live in a democratic country made up of people with attitudes like Jon Lai? Oh, never mind. ;)

Jon Lai
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:14 AM
Delete Jon_Lai from RFD.

But seriously, reform the monetary system. We wouldn't need immigration or have most of the problems that people are trying to fix in this thread if not for fractional reserve banking and all the evils it entails.

WTF? No personal attacks on the forum, or it'll get you banned.

Jon Lai
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:16 AM
Aren't you glad we don't live in a democratic country made up of people with attitudes like Jon Lai? Oh, never mind. ;)

You don't get it do you. I'm all open to personal opinion, but when someone suggests abolishing the government, that is just insane. Every country has a government of some sort. So why are you doing a personal attack on me?

hagbard
Feb 9th, 2009, 11:47 AM
You don't get it do you. I'm all open to personal opinion, but when someone suggests abolishing the government, that is just insane. Every country has a government of some sort. So why are you doing a personal attack on me?

So why are you calling me insane? ;)

konfusion666
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:03 PM
BTW, there sure are a lot of hard core authoritarians on RFDs. I'm guessing (by observation) that first generation immigrates are the worst of the lot. ;)

Yes, first generation immigrants appear to be very authoritarian... but so are Canadians themselves, especially small-C conservative Canadians who have essentially put the current federal government in power.

There is no tradition of Libertarianism in this country, and political parties like the CPC and LPC are, IMO, the farthest thing from it.

rommelrommel
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:43 PM
WTF? No personal attacks on the forum, or it'll get you banned.

It's not a personal attack. It's factual... if I could I would have you removed from this site due to the misinformed crap that you spew as truth. You know what's a personal attack? Calling someone insane because you don't like their opinion. That will get you banned ;)

ethansmith
Feb 9th, 2009, 01:15 PM
A) Complete government overhaul making them accountable through actions.

1. 25% of pay goes to a charity(s) in their riding based on what their constituents choose.

2. If you(the MP) vote for sending our troops into conflict, at least one member of your immediate family must be drafted or 2 relatives if you have no one suitable for the army in your immediate family. We'll see how serious that war/conflict is then.

3. Community service for all elected officials; to prove that they want to be there, not just for the pay cheque.

4. Proportional government. If not by elected officials then by committee. (The winner of first past the post goes to represent the riding but he/she is only allowed to vote a certain way if his constituents allow. (You know, the way it should be...) How do the constituents allow? By an unpaid committee of the candidates of the other parties that didn't win + the representative. The way the representative votes is based on how the committee votes and each member's vote weight is based on their proportion of votes in their riding. If the representative recieved more then 50%, there will be no committee.)

etc.


B) Each hospital is mandated to have a "commercial" wing, named after the highest bidder. The commercial wing will hold stores like Tim Hortons, a flower shop, a day care center (Ikea style even), and other such businesses that pay substantial rent to be there. Therefore the hospital can help pay for itself and be less of a strain on the tax payer. The hospital could have a commercial name, same with each wing and all the way down to each room; each name acquired for a fee.

I'd never give up universal health care but if I can lessen the cost through means that don't effect the quality of care, that would be great.

--Ethan

abu_sme
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:03 PM
I'd tell him not to listen to any of the hare brained ideas in this thread.

Evil Baby
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:38 PM
to add to my list. I would take the DNA of all new borns.

gordholio
Feb 9th, 2009, 03:08 PM
As PM, I would make it a law that Shania Twain has to marry me...........w00t!

That's what I was thinking, except me, not you!
She's a sweetie.

spf1971
Feb 9th, 2009, 03:26 PM
Local government or private neighborhood associations are two possibilities. btw, lots of municipalities don't offer garbage pickup...that's a responsibility for homeowners.

But you never paid for the streets, how do the garbage trucks move around? Are they going to become Garbage Helicopters?

ronin893
Feb 9th, 2009, 04:29 PM
Get rid of customs. The border should be focused on security and not revenue. Federal revenue should come from income taxes, consumption taxes, and some licensing fees.

I hate the long lineups at customs when I fly or drive back to Canada. I also hate unexpected surcharges from customs when I order something online internationally.

rommelrommel
Feb 9th, 2009, 06:04 PM
Get rid of customs. The border should be focused on security and not revenue. Federal revenue should come from income taxes, consumption taxes, and some licensing fees.

I hate the long lineups at customs when I fly or drive back to Canada. I also hate unexpected surcharges from customs when I order something online internationally.

So umm, you want to have more security at the border but shorter lines? :confused:

CanadianMike
Feb 9th, 2009, 06:22 PM
Delete Jon_Lai from RFD.
+1

aka rid RFD of the misinformation machine....:lol:

heymikey
Feb 9th, 2009, 06:56 PM
Just one?

(1) Reform immigration to something similar to Australia's (comparison between the two countries' immigration policies (http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/pdf/comparison_immigration_policies.pdf)). For example, they have an age limit where you have to be 45 or under to apply. This means that the person will have at least 20 years of labor contribution before they can retire and make use of social security benefits. Plus, there is a mandatory English test that they have to pass in order to be successful. Also, the assessment of their educational credentials is part of the process so when they get accepted, their credentials will be seen as equal to Australians. Another difference is that they give more importance to skilled workers immigrating rather than family reunification. In Australia, you can't petition extended family members (uncles, aunts, etc.) from immigrating. Even your own parents or siblings aren't included to the list. You can only petition your spouse and dependent children from coming over. This prevents chain migration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_migration) from happening. Another thing in Australia is that you cannot access the social security payments including employment insurance until you've lived there for at least 2 years.

(2) Encourage high-density living to curb urban sprawl. Instead of building outwards, build upwards. Encourage cities to build multi-family homes like condos, townhouses, etc. instead of single-family units.

batman321123
Feb 9th, 2009, 09:00 PM
make government more transparent. I shouldn't have to file an Access to Information request just to get information about the government that I'm paying. Sure if it's private info about an individual, don't give it to me. But don't hide behind "national security" and refuse to hand over info about gov't agencies.

batman321123
Feb 9th, 2009, 09:06 PM
to add to my list. I would take the DNA of all new borns.

I hope that's sarcasm.

Evil Baby
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:18 PM
I hope that's sarcasm.

Not at all. I don't have a fear of a police state. The government already has the birth information on every child born in Canada why not add a DNA stand to that.

Beyond the extreme usefulness it would be to police investigations think of what scientist could do with that large of a pool of DNA data.

What's the worese thing that is going to happen if your DNA is on file? The police are going to question you because you DNA showed up at a crime scene?

Justin
Feb 9th, 2009, 11:12 PM
French would no longer be an official language.

Vascilli
Feb 9th, 2009, 11:19 PM
Not a federal issue.

Very correct, but that school is asking for $10m of that money from the federal government. :confused: My friend explained it to me and made it clear that it's 10m each from the province and feds. He heard that from the school owner's mouth, who told his "Business" class. (Pathetic excuse for a school, that place)

I'd probably put in a country-wide maglev system. :twisted: 500km/h, across the country.. Air Canada would freak out. (Then again maglev costs so much this would never, ever happen..)

Fookmi
Feb 11th, 2009, 01:41 AM
The one thing I would change isfor Canada not to be so dependent on the US. For example why is southern ontario getting their electricity from the US?

Rishi
Feb 11th, 2009, 01:57 AM
I'd probably put in a country-wide maglev system. :twisted: 500km/h, across the country.. Air Canada would freak out. (Then again maglev costs so much this would never, ever happen..)
As an engineer(ing student), this is the sort of thing I have wet dreams about. :cheesygri

pablonutribar
Feb 11th, 2009, 02:31 AM
i'd tell him not to listen to any of the hare brained ideas in this thread.

+1

pablonutribar
Feb 11th, 2009, 02:42 AM
Just one?

(2) Encourage high-density living to curb urban sprawl. Instead of building outwards, build upwards. Encourage cities to build multi-family homes like condos, townhouses, etc. instead of single-family units.

I agree that we should curb urban sprawl. One of the ideas that might be worthy of opinion (on a municipal level) is mandating that the first two or three floors of every new apartment condo complex be commercial. I believe that encouraging people to become a part of their community instead of distancing themselves from it is an interesting approach to combating urban decay.

I also sometimes believe that people should get tax breaks for doing volunteer work in their community. We clearly need volunteers but the government is unwilling to commit resources to it. I believe it might be a win-win situation for society and government.

WontonTiger
Feb 11th, 2009, 11:06 AM
Legalization of narcotics (not run by pharma companies).

Jon Lai
Feb 11th, 2009, 11:44 AM
Legalization of narcotics (not run by pharma companies).

Make sure this doesn't happen.

Tijuana
Feb 11th, 2009, 11:56 AM
Just one?
(2) Encourage high-density living to curb urban sprawl. Instead of building outwards, build upwards. Encourage cities to build multi-family homes like condos, townhouses, etc. instead of single-family units.

Are you nuts? I hate how people can think like that, ya build condo's everywhere, and yet only make single lane roads leading in and out. We need places like Barrie, Orillia, Acton, Ajax etc to start expanding, that's the only way to bring prosperity to a greater part of Ontario. Multi-family homes are detached, bungalows and semi-detached, not condo's, how can you have a husband, wife 2-3 kids and possibly one of the parents grandmothers living in a condo, or even a townhouse? People want houses, people should want lawns, and parks, and neighbourhoods, not just what you see on tv about the condo life. For families, a house is the only suitable/comfortable living arrangement. YES people can manage, but a house is much mroe comfortable and pleasing, since you can actually run across your house in more than 5 seconds.

The only way your idea would work, is if the planners weren't greedy. Build enough roads, and multi-lane roads to support the 15 condo's they want to put in a 2 km sq area.