CT FirePit YMMV 69.99 reg 299.99

[towhytea]

http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444328 6784&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672653&bmUID=1236385751497&deptid=1408474396672561&ctgrid=1408474396672574&subctgrid=1408474396672653
Is on clearance for only 69.99. I saw this at the warden and eglinton CT. There are 3 left as of this afternoon.
The only thing is this box is MASSIVE. 4ft by 4ft.

[discoblues]

I suggest double checking your municipal by-law before setting one of these up in your back yard.

http://www.cityofpickering.com/standard/services/fire/images/OpenAirBurning.pdf

$50,000 / 1 year in jail... hardcore.

[tilley]

I suggest double checking your municipal by-law before setting one of these up in your back yard.

http://www.cityofpickering.com/standard/services/fire/images/OpenAirBurning.pdf

$50,000 / 1 year in jail... hardcore.

Are you a downer or what? Great deal OP, ignore the troll.

[Galad]

Are you a downer or what? Great deal OP, ignore the troll.

Hardly a great deal if you're not allowed to use it in your backyard.

[Rubedizzle]

Are you a downer or what? Great deal OP, ignore the troll.

Nothing wrong with what the second poster wrote, wasn't rude or anything - it truly is a good idea to bring this to people's attention, such that they don't waste their money on something they can't use where they'd like. Not to mention, if somebody was caught using this, it carries quite the hefty fine, would you like to pay that? I personally am a resident of Pickering, and knew nothing of this by-law, and was pretty interested in one of these for the summer nights.

Thanks OP for the post, thanks discoblues for the warning, thanks tilley for the immaturity.

[gq_fuzion]

at least in pickering they allow for open air burning appliances (gas operated pits)

in markham, by-law prevents this as well

[Ironballz]

Are you a downer or what? Great deal OP, ignore the troll.

How is that a troll? I was thinking whether it is legal or not to have that fire pit too. That might be why it's on sale - they had a hard time selling those due to by-laws.

[buyways]

I suggest double checking your municipal by-law before setting one of these up in your back yard.

http://www.cityofpickering.com/standard/services/fire/images/OpenAirBurning.pdf.

good tip, discoblues. Toronto also seems to prohibit :cry:, except for BBQs (i.e. cooking food) or with "written permission" - I'm assuming that's not just a straightforward permit, but I'll look into it - meanwhile, anyone here ever get permission to have one of these firebowls in TO?

http://www.toronto.ca/fire/news/open_air/index.htm

http://wx.toronto.ca/inter/it/newsrel.nsf/11476e3d3711f56e85256616006b891f/e9c55e41df107d69852572fe00566e54?OpenDocument

[james rockford]

Dont listen to these smartasses. They're leaving out 2 very important facts. Theres not a cop in the city that will write that ticket unless one of your neighbours bitches multiple times and thus forces the cop to write it. $50 000 fine and 1 yr. More like $300 and conditional sentence or most likely case dismssed. And thats only if your neighbours hate ya.

Everybody I know uses them in Leaside including my family almost every night and one cop I know of. We have a fire department right around the corner.

Just dont burn leaves or green wood or any other object common sense tells you not to. And dont piss off the neighbours and once in awhile invite them over.

Discoblues was right but he was being a troll. This is Canada still isnt it

[MeatBag]

Thanks OP - can you please print a copy of your receipt, or someone else who has purchased this, please post?

Thx!


P.S. for anyone else in Calgary, here's the bylaw - looks OK for us to me:
http://content.calgary.ca/CCA/City+Hall/Business+Units/Animal+and+Bylaw+Services/Bylaw+Services/Bylaws+of+Interest/Fire+Pits.htm

[tilley]

james rockford is my hero. PS Jaywalking is illegal too, be careful out there.

[towhytea]

This is the key in Toronto if you are responsible with the pit. If you use 5 gallons on gas on the fire to get it going yea your gonna get shut down. But with a properly built fire and the right safety precausions no cop in TO would ever wanna kill your buzz unless your bring an @$$. And I might be wrong but if you have marshmellows (or another food that can be cooked on the flame), and the mesh covers on I believe it is legal in the GTA. I've actually had my cop buddies over a lot and they haven't said anything about the way we do our fires.

And as for my receipt I didn't actually buy it. But I will try and get a picture tomoro ill be back in the area so ill help you guys out. But you can if in the gta the can call and confirm the price.


Dont listen to these smartasses. They're leaving out 2 very important facts. Theres not a cop in the city that will write that ticket unless one of your neighbours bitches multiple times and thus forces the cop to write it. $50 000 fine and 1 yr. More like $300 and conditional sentence or most likely case dismssed. And thats only if your neighbours hate ya.

Everybody I know uses them in Leaside including my family almost every night and one cop I know of. We have a fire department right around the corner.

Just dont burn leaves or green wood or any other object common sense tells you not to. And dont piss off the neighbours and once in awhile invite them over.

Discoblues was right but he was being a troll. This is Canada still isnt it

[seb33]

We had a fire in a metal drum in Toronto and the neighbours called the fire department. When they came they just asked, "you have some food that you're cooking, right? (nudge, nudge)?" We showed them some chestnuts we were roasting and they said, 'enjoy'. No tickets, no hassle. Its always good to check local bylaws but some municipalities are quite lenient especially where cooking food of any kind is involved. Mind you your fire still has to be contained and under good control and you have to have water close by etc etc

[leonkaz]

Looks like bbq and 'container constructed for incineration purposes according to the specifications of the Fire Code' should be OK. i wonder what these spec are...?

http://www.city.vaughan.on.ca/vaughan/forms_docs/pdf/50-94.pdf

(e) "Enclosed Fire" means a fire set within the confines of any building, or contained within any
container constructed for incineration purposes according to the specifications of the Fire
Code, and fires built in fireplaces or metal or brick barbecues, for cooking purposes.

[goleafsgo5]

Lemme see is I can shed a little light on this....

I live in Alliston ontario and not on a farm in a normal sub division like you would see in mississauga. The town engineer for land and grade by-laws lives right across the street.

He saw me putting one together that I bought last year and walk over and said that yes we do have by-laws that pervent this, as I told him I wanted to get a permit and do it all legal. He said our lots did not have the clearance to get the permits.

He said listen ask your neighbours, if they don't complain the by-law people and the cops would rather you be in, at home then on the streets or the bars..... If no one says nothing then there is no issue...... My neighbours don't care. I went and got those fire logs that you can buy at the grocery store for like 13 bucks for 11 and they make no smoke and friday night and saturday after hockey I always burn one or two and no one says a word....


Be smart don't start a 5 alarm blaze and enjoy!

[Tibbs]

good tip, discoblues. Toronto also seems to prohibit :cry:, except for BBQs (i.e. cooking food) or with "written permission" - I'm assuming that's not just a straightforward permit, but I'll look into it - meanwhile, anyone here ever get permission to have one of these firebowls in TO?

http://www.toronto.ca/fire/news/open_air/index.htm

http://wx.toronto.ca/inter/it/newsrel.nsf/11476e3d3711f56e85256616006b891f/e9c55e41df107d69852572fe00566e54?OpenDocument

And when you get permission (if you do) it is ONLY from dawn to dusk. You don't get permission for any dark hours. :(

[ZIgot]

Thx Op for the deal and Discoblues for the by-law link.

I'm not from Pickering but it's interesting to know what is allowed and what not.

[Ironballz]

Dont listen to these smartasses. They're leaving out 2 very important facts. Theres not a cop in the city that will write that ticket unless one of your neighbours bitches multiple times and thus forces the cop to write it. $50 000 fine and 1 yr. More like $300 and conditional sentence or most likely case dismssed. And thats only if your neighbours hate ya.

Everybody I know uses them in Leaside including my family almost every night and one cop I know of. We have a fire department right around the corner.

Just dont burn leaves or green wood or any other object common sense tells you not to. And dont piss off the neighbours and once in awhile invite them over.

Discoblues was right but he was being a troll. This is Canada still isnt it

The point is it was not a trolling post. It was to inform consumers.

I was at my buddy's cottage, yes a cottage up north and someone called the fire dept to come force us to put out our small fire pit. There were only 4 of us sitting around this small fire pit relaxing and socializing...not loud at all and we were forced to put out our fire. This was at about 8 PM. If it happens in cottage country, I'm sure it can happen in the GTA/Pickering or wherever else. It only takes one jack-arse neighbour to ruin all the fun.

[sonypcs]

My friend use this in Asian way...

BBQ in the summer (much better than buying those $ 10 ones in the supermarket) !!!

[Sick-Boy]

I think if your not burning garbage and cooking food (roasting marshmellows) and having a reasonable fire the police or firedept wouldnt say much

[finnmacool]

Thanks OP, I got the last one from my CT in Winnipeg (OOS every other CT) and it rang in at 59.99 and will get 10.00 CT Cash back on Tuesday!
Thanks for making my (upcoming) summer.

[TCWeasel]

It will all depend on the municipality.

While some places you'll have no issues, some take it very seriously, and you will get a visit.

Some also prohibit burning for ANY reason (food included).

If embers from your fire do cause any damage to any of your neighbours, you'll find yourself in some trouble.

Always check your bylaws, and whether or not you choose to heed them, know what you're risking.

That being said, I'm in a rural area where it isn't a problem to have an open fire, no contained firepit necessary. I will use this to taunt you all! Ha! ;)

[Majic31]

Yesterday, called a half dozen CT stores, and only found the Weston/401 (GTA) store had it and they wanted 89.99.
So I drove out the Eglinton/Warden and they still had 3 (they're kept behind the cash - you pass them as you leave the store)... bought one - the OP is right - HUGE box - 4x4 and a bit... I have a pickup and it wouldn't fit between the wheel wells until I tilted it to one side...

Thanks to the OP.... I live in Vaughan and I'll be sure to have a bag of marshmallows near the thing when it's lit (could be the same bag year after year - as I don't eat marshmallows)... BUT... if they're there - I'm good according to the by-law...:lol:

[Cheap Cat]

discoblues was correct to post the warning. If you ever look at Fire Pits in ads, the ads always have warnings to check your local bylaws. Most stores will also state this on the product display. I know that I have seen this at CT. A few years ago there was a story on the news with people complaining that that bought Fire Pits in Toronto and didn't know that they couldn't use them in Toronto and questioning why stores were even selling them. This is why stores started posting warnings to check bylaws.

I live in Brampton where they are also banned. We had a complaint in my townhouse complex from the neighbour of someone who had one. She was in her unit when she saw flames outside her second floor window from the guy next door's fire pit. It scared the hell out of her. We got the fire pit removed under the condo's bylaws but the fire department told us that we could call them if we saw it in use and they would come out and levy a hefty fine. They could only issue a warning if it were not in use.

Note there are good reasons for these bylaws, please respect them.

[jimgiggles]

Good thing i had nice neighbours.. This is a photo of a house we rented in north richmond hill, we had a fire pit in the backyard and all.. The fire was actually tame at this point :)

I wouldn't be too worried about the bylaw people... Burn away!


http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9832/firem.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firem.jpg)
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/firem.jpg/1/w604.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img6/firem.jpg/1/)

[bubble.tea]

Crap I was even AT CT (checking on the $1000 20 hp Tractor), but didn't know to check on this baby...Sheesh!!!

Might go back tomorrah!


....I've actually had my cop buddies over a lot and they haven't said anything about the way we do our fires....
not that they'd have a reason...but why WOULD they? You speak as though cops are always following E V E R Y S I N G L E rule when off duty ;).

[riskytrader]

Anyone know the Mississauga by-laws on these? I live in a condo townhouse with a roof top deck and already bought one of these last summer and just didn't bother assembling it. I want to this year but obviously don't want to get into serious trouble.

[southnam]

Was worried about buying one of these in Ottawa and was told and confirmed by friend who has one adn checked with police that it is a "bbq" because it is contained and has a grill/cover etc... but not sure how much your neighbors may like ask floating their way, especially if they are hanging close outside.. just something to keep in mind as well.

[Cheap Cat]

Anyone know the Mississauga by-laws on these? I live in a condo townhouse with a roof top deck and already bought one of these last summer and just didn't bother assembling it. I want to this year but obviously don't want to get into serious trouble.

I don't know about Mississauga's by-laws but I suspect that they probably prohibit them as this is the norm in the GTA. Also check your condo rules, as they probably have rules against it as well.

[isitin]

We have a store in Pickering and were told by the Town Of Pickering that we can sell these kind of units if we put a cooking grate inside of the fire pit & now it can be used as a grill.

[eccs19]

Alliston store told me $89.99 for this unit, but don't have any in stock, but they are expecting some later in March. They would give me a rain check if I wanted.

[lambui]

[QUOTE=towhytea;8384578]And I might be wrong but if you have marshmellows (or another food that can be cooked on the flame), and the mesh covers on I believe it is legal in the GTA. I've actually had my cop buddies over a lot and they haven't said anything about the way we do our fires.
QUOTE]

It's true that as long as you have some foods beside the fireplace, it become legal since you're using the firepit for cooking. But if you're just using it as a firepit, then it's illegal.

[Majic31]

and that's why I plan on keeping a dollar bag of marshmallows attached to the underside of the thing....just in case the Fire Dept drives by...
marshmallows have got so many chemicals in 'em they last for years (not that I'm planning on letting anyone eat any)
It all boils down to common sense... if you've got a 28' city lot and your neighbours hate you - don't buy one...you're asking for trouble.
If you get along AND TALK with your neighbours, have a suburban type lot (mine's 125 X 265), AND use it sensibly - then I don't see a problem.

[Jaremy T]

Crap I was even AT CT (checking on the $1000 20 hp Tractor), but didn't know to check on this baby...Sheesh!!!

Might go back tomorrah!


not that they'd have a reason...but why WOULD they? You speak as though cops are always following E V E R Y S I N G L E rule when off duty ;).

You speak like any cops follow all the rules ever.

[bubble.tea]

you speak like any cops follow all the rules ever.

ouch.

[towhytea]

Haha very true but my one buddy would have warned me if there was any issues he looks after me haha.


You speak like any cops follow all the rules ever.

[bubble.tea]

My CT said it was $119...OOS anyway.

[DGirl]

Alliston store told me $89.99 for this unit, but don't have any in stock, but they are expecting some later in March. They would give me a rain check if I wanted.

Wow! My CT said permanently discontinued item we won't be restocking it. And of course OOS. :)

[Ukrainianoiler]

Thanks OP, I got the last one from my CT in Winnipeg (OOS every other CT) and it rang in at 59.99 and will get 10.00 CT Cash back on Tuesday!
Thanks for making my (upcoming) summer.

They have 20 in stock here in Saskatoon but they list and were price checked at 144.99 (approx, I can't remember exactly)....anyone have a receipt they can scan...figure if Winnipeg is getting the price they should be the same here?

Thanks

[Ukrainianoiler]

These are still at full price...any decent ones on sale elsewhere?

[whitegoose]

kicking myself for just finding this thread now... kicking myself so much that i had to bring this thread back from the dead

[bubble.tea]

LOL....great., can we kick this into the expired forums please?

[jackass_ca]

Just a word to the wise... Bylaws are there and yes, they are not always adhered to, however, they are there. If a neighbour calls, remember, they will be watching out their window to see what the police, or fire do, and if they are not happy with it, then they will call again, and if they are complaining within the guidelines of the bylaw, then eventually, the police, or fire, whether they like it or not, will have to enact the bylaw, not necessarily impose a fine, but your fire will be doused... because, it comes down to, taxpayers are just that, and have the right to uphold the bylaw, no matter how tedious. And it doesn't matter if you are best friends with your immediate neighbours, smoke travels, if anyone has their windows open and smoke gets in the house, they will make a call. If they have ever been subject to an official who upheld a bylaw to the "letter" of it, they will be pissed that now someone else is getting away with something and call... And trust me, there are the worry warts, who see the slightest glow of a flame, from 3 yards over and call fire, because the neighbourhood is going up in flames.

As far as the pit being a bbq, ONLY if the grate is installed, otherwise, it is still an open flame, just suspended above the ground. Most bylaws will state that it must have a grill... I don't think the second poster was being a troll, it was a very informational FYI, just in case some people want to avoid hassle. I know it was an old post anyhow, but we are back in that season... my backyard neighbours sit around an open fire pit in their backyard every night, with all their kids... I love the smell of burning wood, reminds me of my youth, camping, etc... so I have no complaints and you know what, good on them for upholding FAMILY, and getting outside, away from the TV and the computer... (oops)

[grantz]

It's better to burn out than fade away....

[JAC]

Please don't use these things. There's nothing worse than having to close all your windows on a beautiful evening because some tosspot is stinking up the entire neighborhood with an illegal fire.

[deezz]

Man now I'M kicking myself for just finding this thread! lol

I want one...anyone buy one and want to sell it? :)