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squid
Sep 11th, 2009, 01:00 PM
Canadian Tire now has the 485 on sale for $399 (1/2 price): Napoleon%2BTed%2BReader%2B485%2BSeries%2B3-Burner%2BPropane%2BBBQ.jsp (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/TheOutdoorRoom/ClassicFurniture/PRD~0851656P/Napoleon%2BTed%2BReader%2B485%2BSeries%2B3-Burner%2BPropane%2BBBQ.jsp)
I'm looking for NG and think I'll pick up the 485 with the IR sideburner.
Gormans is also having a clearance on all of their bbqs and I'm going to go there and check it out.
Thanks. Got the CT TR485. One more left at CT Richmond 3 Road
pbcsd
Sep 14th, 2009, 01:54 PM
Anything recent come up? My 7 year old Weber is starting to look really tired (though still works perfectly!)...
brucered
Sep 14th, 2009, 01:59 PM
Anything recent come up? My 7 year old Weber is starting to look really tired (though still works perfectly!)...
if you have a weber that works perfectly, keep it. no point in upgrading or downgrading if you don't buy another weber.
if you are the original owner, try calling weber and getting some parts warrantied, from what i understand and have seen first hand, their warranty is one of the best in the bbq business.
klawman19
Sep 15th, 2009, 12:29 AM
For those still looking for a BBQ on clearance in the GVR area, I was down to the Broil-Mate 3-burner at HD for $299 and the Char-Broil 4-burner at London Drugs for $349. In the end, I didn't think I needed an extra burner, so I went with the Broil-Mate and picked up one tonight. There was still 5 left at the HD on Terminal Ave.
rcthorne
Sep 15th, 2009, 05:46 AM
Anyone happen to see any deals on Smokers.....Preferably in the $100-$200 Range....I'm just a smoking beginner and am not looking for anything too serious...I tried doing it with my Broil King Signet 90, But the I can't keep the Temp Low enough.....
delavoie
Sep 15th, 2009, 09:44 AM
Anyone happen to see any deals on Smokers.....Preferably in the $100-$200 Range....I'm just a smoking beginner and am not looking for anything too serious...I tried doing it with my Broil King Signet 90, But the I can't keep the Temp Low enough.....
If your ever in the USA, check out this model at Cabela's, i picked it up last year and it's awesome. It's a 7 in 1, so you can use is has a propane bbq, charcoal bbq, deep fryer, boiler, propane smoker and charcoal smoker.
It holds the temps perfectly using propane, it's also great to use to bbq with charcoal, because you can use the propane to get the coals going. No need to soak everything in lighter fluid.
It sells for $179.
http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_513587_imageset_02?$main-Large$
pbcsd
Sep 15th, 2009, 12:48 PM
if you have a weber that works perfectly, keep it. no point in upgrading or downgrading if you don't buy another weber.
if you are the original owner, try calling weber and getting some parts warrantied, from what i understand and have seen first hand, their warranty is one of the best in the bbq business.
The issue is more cosmetics. It's one of the older Silver series which simply came without doors, etc. Just black with tube legs and pretty ugly! Was looking for a larger one with stainless steel, doors, etc.
rfitz69
Sep 15th, 2009, 01:13 PM
I am looking for a Natural Gas BBQ, preferably Broil King, Napoleon, maybe Webber if the deal was right. Anyone see any deals recently in the GTA?
Any help would be great
Strider
Sep 15th, 2009, 01:33 PM
For anyone looking for a small/cheap BBQ, Rona has a Broil King on for 50% off this Friday only (daily deals). Regular $379, sale price $189.50.
Looks to be the Crown 10 model 44,000 BTU, 635 sq in total area, 400 sq in primary
Spray
Sep 15th, 2009, 01:37 PM
Propane?
For anyone looking for a small/cheap BBQ, Rona has a Broil King on for 50% off this Friday only (daily deals). Regular $379, sale price $189.50.
Looks to be the Crown 10 model 44,000 BTU, 635 sq in total area, 400 sq in primary
Strider
Sep 15th, 2009, 01:39 PM
Propane?
Yes, Propane
http://www.rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-44000-btu-propane-gas-barbecue-broil-king-385821_broil-king_barbecues_summer-seasonal_shop
Brianflagger
Sep 15th, 2009, 07:24 PM
Yes, Propane
http://www.rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-44000-btu-propane-gas-barbecue-broil-king-385821_broil-king_barbecues_summer-seasonal_shop
I believe that model has an inferior burner compared with the Crown series.
But still a good deal, especially with the rotisserie.
aha1980
Sep 15th, 2009, 10:51 PM
For anyone looking for a small/cheap BBQ, Rona has a Broil King on for 50% off this Friday only (daily deals). Regular $379, sale price $189.50.
Looks to be the Crown 10 model 44,000 BTU, 635 sq in total area, 400 sq in primary
Where do you see the daily deals advertised? Checked the website and didn't have any luck finding anything about it.
reddeals
Sep 16th, 2009, 09:54 AM
Where do you see the daily deals advertised? Checked the website and didn't have any luck finding anything about it.
It is in this week's flyer. Does anyone have this BBQ? how is the quality?
brucered
Sep 16th, 2009, 10:13 AM
Anyone happen to see any deals on Smokers.....Preferably in the $100-$200 Range....I'm just a smoking beginner and am not looking for anything too serious...I tried doing it with my Broil King Signet 90, But the I can't keep the Temp Low enough.....
check out costco.ca
http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10328135&search=smoker&Mo=7&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-CA&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Sp=S&N=0&whse=BCCA&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ne=4000000&D=smoker&Ntt=smoker&No=1&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1
$85 for a charcoal smoker/bbq. get's decent review on amazon.com, and if you are just starting out in smoking, it might be a nice start.
stormsong
Sep 16th, 2009, 10:24 AM
It is in this week's flyer. Does anyone have this BBQ? how is the quality?
I'm interested to see how this is as well, I could pick this up before work lol, even though i've been looking for a weber the whole time, a good deal is a good deal
do the side fold down for this bbq?
LesterZhang
Sep 16th, 2009, 10:49 AM
Where do you see the daily deals advertised? Checked the website and didn't have any luck finding anything about it.
check here: http://flyers.rona.ca/Flyers/NG9/C1/neutral/NG9_C1.pdf
aha1980
Sep 16th, 2009, 11:26 AM
I'm interested to see how this is as well, I could pick this up before work lol, even though i've been looking for a weber the whole time, a good deal is a good deal
do the side fold down for this bbq?
Here's a link to the model # and the assembly guide. Looks like the side does fold down.
http://www.omcimages.com/ImageFolio/ImageFolio42_files/gallery_gg_1138_excel/Site_Manuals/BroilKing/10084-K54_Rev_C_1108.pdf
Strider
Sep 16th, 2009, 11:39 AM
I believe that model has an inferior burner compared with the Crown series.
But still a good deal, especially with the rotisserie.
I looked through Broil King's website, and can't find any lower/inferior models that match the specs... unless it's an older model?
I'm still guessing it's the Crown 10, unless proven wrong.
Don't know anything about it, just thought I'd throw it out there. I'm looking for something a little higher budget myself - NG, infrared. But for $200, a broil king is probably a better bet than comparably priced centro/masterchef/charmglow/superstore/etc no name brands.
More_or_less
Sep 16th, 2009, 06:59 PM
Here's a link to the model # and the assembly guide. Looks like the side does fold down.
http://www.omcimages.com/ImageFolio/ImageFolio42_files/gallery_gg_1138_excel/Site_Manuals/BroilKing/10084-K54_Rev_C_1108.pdf
According to an associate I spoke to at Rona, it's the 9959-74, so it's different than the Crown 10.
Brianflagger
Sep 16th, 2009, 09:16 PM
According to an associate I spoke to at Rona, it's the 9959-74, so it's different than the Crown 10.
Yep. They have the same assembly manual, but if you look at the parts list you can see the differences.
http://www.omcimages.com/ImageFolio/ImageFolio42_files/gallery_gg_1138_excel/Site_Manuals/BroilKing/10084-K54_Rev_C_1108.pdf
The Crown 10 has the "Super 8 Infinity" burner, whereas the 9959-74 has the "H" style burner. Besides that seems to be cosmetic differences (except of course 9959-74 has the rotisserie)
Wonder how many they'll have per store.
stormsong
Sep 17th, 2009, 01:24 AM
Yep. They have the same assembly manual, but if you look at the parts list you can see the differences.
http://www.omcimages.com/ImageFolio/ImageFolio42_files/gallery_gg_1138_excel/Site_Manuals/BroilKing/10084-K54_Rev_C_1108.pdf
The Crown 10 has the "Super 8 Infinity" burner, whereas the 9959-74 has the "H" style burner. Besides that seems to be cosmetic differences (except of course 9959-74 has the rotisserie)
Wonder how many they'll have per store.
but overall for 189.50 it's a good deal for the bbq right? i'm no bbq expert i dont know what makes the crown 10 better and stuff, i just want a good grill for a good price and i didnt' get to buy one for the whole summer ;/ i'm planning to pick it up fri morning before work hah
NeedADeal
Sep 17th, 2009, 08:55 AM
Has anyone seen any higher end BBQs? I'm not willing to spend more than $2,000 after discount and want to save at least 50%.
regwong88
Sep 17th, 2009, 09:13 AM
Has anyone seen any higher end BBQs? I'm not willing to spend more than $2,000 after discount and want to save at least 50%.
I saw a weber BBQ (big one not sure the model) which on sale for 1899 from 3299 on woodbine & Hwy7 and may be you can price match at homedepot to save 10% more.
NeedADeal
Sep 17th, 2009, 09:15 AM
I saw a weber BBQ (big one not sure the model) which on sale for 1899 from 3299 on woodbine & Hwy7 and may be you can price match at homedepot to save 10% more.
Thanks. What was the name of the store you saw it in?
harria5
Sep 17th, 2009, 09:23 AM
check here: http://flyers.rona.ca/Flyers/NG9/C1/neutral/NG9_C1.pdf
Is this special only available online or in-store? My Rona is old and small and they only had a couple of BBQs last time I was there.
Flyer says that quantities are limited, so I am wondering if I need to try another location on Friday or if I should try to order online.
RTM
Sep 17th, 2009, 10:56 AM
Is this special only available online or in-store? My Rona is old and small and they only had a couple of BBQs last time I was there.
Flyer says that quantities are limited, so I am wondering if I need to try another location on Friday or if I should try to order online.
Here's a link to the specific BBQ (http://rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-44000-btu-propane-gas-barbecue-broil-king-385821_!1666345_shop) in their online catalog.
In-store only in select areas
Unfortunately the Rona.ca website doesn't have a feature to check in-store inventory :(
Rob
Cheetah123
Sep 18th, 2009, 07:11 AM
Here's a link to the specific BBQ (http://rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-44000-btu-propane-gas-barbecue-broil-king-385821_!1666345_shop) in their online catalog.
Unfortunately the Rona.ca website doesn't have a feature to check in-store inventory :(
Rob
They had 22 for sale at the Ottawa Innes location this morning. All gone by 7:10 am.
snider
Sep 18th, 2009, 07:52 AM
They had 22 for sale at the Ottawa Innes location this morning. All gone by 7:10 am.
I'm not surprised, ppl are all vultures for deals. last time there was a sale at HD for Chamberlain garage door openers I walked in 5 mins late and they were all sold out, one guy had 4 of them in his cart, felt like punching the douche in the head.
Jamil
Sep 18th, 2009, 07:59 AM
FYI
Rona between Yonge and Bayview on Sheppard had 6 last night.
smuPoker
Sep 18th, 2009, 08:42 AM
Question for those who have regularly followed BBQ deals: Do stores normally have a big BBQ sale to kick of the summer season, in April or May or something?
I starting to put some funds away so I can get a kickass BBQ next year since all the sales seem to have dies off this year.
regwong88
Sep 18th, 2009, 09:08 AM
Thanks. What was the name of the store you saw it in?
Home Hardware on Woodbine between Hwy7 and Apple Creek
regwong88
Sep 18th, 2009, 09:10 AM
Question for those who have regularly followed BBQ deals: Do stores normally have a big BBQ sale to kick of the summer season, in April or May or something?
I starting to put some funds away so I can get a kickass BBQ next year since all the sales seem to have dies off this year.
Depends on what you want to get, I got a Weber E-spirit 310 last year model at Canadaian Tire at 14th & Markham Rd for $399 plus tax and this is back in April this year.
stormsong
Sep 18th, 2009, 11:06 AM
picked up the broil king at rona in richmond (bc) before work this morning, it looked like they had 7 units out, not sure if there's more in the back or anything, total comes to about $212
at 730am i was the 3rd person to buy it lol
RTM
Sep 18th, 2009, 04:05 PM
picked up the broil king at rona in richmond (bc) before work this morning, it looked like they had 7 units out, not sure if there's more in the back or anything, total comes to about $212
at 730am i was the 3rd person to buy it lol
Checked at the Rona in Boucherville (near Montreal) and they had 8 units.
I wanted to get there at 8am, but only got there at 9:20... got the last box (!) phew. Had to guard it a bit to make sure no one else grabbed it...
Rob
karlsberg
Sep 18th, 2009, 04:32 PM
Does anyone have any opinions on the brands that walmart sell...they have a few on clearance right now but i am unsure of the quality.
1. Uniflame
2. Bbqtek
3. Brinkman hampton.
toyopl
Sep 18th, 2009, 10:34 PM
I bought 4 of the Uniflame "C" for $199 at Walmart, needed them for cottages, they seemd like a good buy. Also watch out for Uniflame "F" BBQ, it shows it as $178, but it's the natural gas model, the propane one is $248, boxes look the same except for little picture in corner of box.
Teletran
Sep 18th, 2009, 10:38 PM
If your ever in the USA, check out this model at Cabela's, i picked it up last year and it's awesome. It's a 7 in 1, so you can use is has a propane bbq, charcoal bbq, deep fryer, boiler, propane smoker and charcoal smoker.
It holds the temps perfectly using propane, it's also great to use to bbq with charcoal, because you can use the propane to get the coals going. No need to soak everything in lighter fluid.
It sells for $179.
http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_513587_imageset_02?$main-Large$
I saw this model (or at least something very similar) at the Queensway Costco in Etobicoke last weekend.
bomboi
Sep 19th, 2009, 12:26 AM
Checked at the Rona in Boucherville (near Montreal) and they had 8 units.
I wanted to get there at 8am, but only got there at 9:20... got the last box (!) phew. Had to guard it a bit to make sure no one else grabbed it...
Rob
how good is this BBQ compared to the ones CT sells?
froesesp
Sep 19th, 2009, 01:17 AM
I got one today. It looks like a quality bbq. The aluminum is a nice touch. It's made in ontario by the same company that makes weber. It doesn't have the super 8 burners but it's still nice. I think it's better than the 'crappy' brands that CT carries.
Brianflagger
Sep 19th, 2009, 11:12 AM
I got one today. It looks like a quality bbq. The aluminum is a nice touch. It's made in ontario by the same company that makes weber. It doesn't have the super 8 burners but it's still nice. I think it's better than the 'crappy' brands that CT carries.
Assembled mine this morning. Very easy as much of it was pre-assembled. Nice quality, and a good deal.
However, OMC doesn't make Weber, just distribute them in Canada.
Webhead
Sep 19th, 2009, 11:35 AM
picked up the broil king at rona in richmond (bc) before work this morning, it looked like they had 7 units out, not sure if there's more in the back or anything, total comes to about $212
at 730am i was the 3rd person to buy it lol
Checked at the Rona in Boucherville (near Montreal) and they had 8 units.
I wanted to get there at 8am, but only got there at 9:20... got the last box (!) phew. Had to guard it a bit to make sure no one else grabbed it...
Rob
Same thing happened here in one of the Mississauga stores. By 7:10AM, half of the 18 BBQ's were sold.
Canuck_2005
Sep 19th, 2009, 11:57 AM
I found a dealer clearing out napoleon bbq's. He will give me the following:
Napoleon Prestige II 450 Natural gas all stainless
Napoleon BBQ Cover
Napoleon BBQ tool kit
Napoleon charcol/wood chip smoker tray
$1390 assembled tax included
is this a good deal?
brucered
Sep 19th, 2009, 12:35 PM
costco has the brinkmann 852-7080-e smoker (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AYQN0W/ref=asc_df_B000AYQN0W913824?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=dealt4357-20&linkCode=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B000AYQN0W) for $65. this was in winnipeg at the costco south store, just when you walk in the door, they had stacks of them.
Weapon1
Sep 19th, 2009, 03:31 PM
I found a dealer clearing out napoleon bbq's. He will give me the following:
Napoleon Prestige II 450 Natural gas all stainless
Napoleon BBQ Cover
Napoleon BBQ tool kit
Napoleon charcol/wood chip smoker tray
$1390 assembled tax included
is this a good deal?
Seem's ok Ont. gas bbq sells this unit for $1349 before tax for just the Q...
TheOldGuy
Sep 20th, 2009, 08:04 AM
They had 22 for sale at the Ottawa Innes location this morning. All gone by 7:10 am.
Rona Wonderland Store London sold out their 30 by 7:05 am. So they brought out a skid of Sterlings - same guts but no fold down sides & only 2 wheels - for $189. Sold them out by 8:00 am.
Nothing like Canada's 2nd highest unemployment rate to get the bargain hunters out.
droogy
Sep 20th, 2009, 08:31 AM
I picked up a Sovereign XLS 90 at Rona yesterday for $669 regular $999. It was the last one but they had a few Signet 20's on clearance. this is at 401 and Winston Churchill in Mississauga.
HDawg
Sep 20th, 2009, 09:21 AM
Sorry, I know it's off topic but can anyone suggest a quality cleaner for stainless steel? I got some scorch burn on my stainless steel Vermont Castings from the clearout from Costco a couple years back. Left the heat too high for too long and now there is a brown "scorch" around the lid. There's also all kinds of BBQ splatter that I am having a hard time removing. Soap and water as well as interior use stainless steel cleaner don't seem to work.
Swilt
Sep 20th, 2009, 11:59 AM
I picked up a Sovereign XLS 90 at Rona yesterday for $669 regular $999. It was the last one but they had a few Signet 20's on clearance. this is at 401 and Winston Churchill in Mississauga.
Very nice pickup, too bad Rona's website sucks so bad you can't tell if any of them have one or not. Too painfull to call around asking.
jed
Sep 20th, 2009, 02:12 PM
Sorry, I know it's off topic but can anyone suggest a quality cleaner for stainless steel? I got some scorch burn on my stainless steel Vermont Castings from the clearout from Costco a couple years back. Left the heat too high for too long and now there is a brown "scorch" around the lid. There's also all kinds of BBQ splatter that I am having a hard time removing. Soap and water as well as interior use stainless steel cleaner don't seem to work.
For anything stainless in our house, we use a Stainless Steel cleaner (thats the name) from Home Hardware. Works great, but have not used it on an application like yours - can't hurt though.
Punky Hunky
Sep 21st, 2009, 12:09 PM
costco has the brinkmann 852-7080-e smoker (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AYQN0W/ref=asc_df_B000AYQN0W913824?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=dealt4357-20&linkCode=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B000AYQN0W) for $65. this was in winnipeg at the costco south store, just when you walk in the door, they had stacks of them.
Costco at Warden and Ellesmere had the same smoker for 59.99. There were about 4 left when I picked mine up today.
ruralx
Sep 22nd, 2009, 08:59 PM
Sorry, I know it's off topic but can anyone suggest a quality cleaner for stainless steel? I got some scorch burn on my stainless steel Vermont Castings from the clearout from Costco a couple years back. Left the heat too high for too long and now there is a brown "scorch" around the lid. There's also all kinds of BBQ splatter that I am having a hard time removing. Soap and water as well as interior use stainless steel cleaner don't seem to work.
I have the same unit.. I use a razor blad to remove the build up that forms on the tray in front of the grill.. and the brown crust that forms on the lip of the lid. Follow that with a scouring pad and some soap and water.. always going with the grain of the metal.. and it always comes back like new.
abby4000
Sep 23rd, 2009, 11:38 AM
I saw this ad on facebook.
http://ul-hhbc.hhstores.ca/ul-retail-georgetown/gtwnflyer.php
check out the last page. No tax on Broil King and weber bbq's. Is this good? Looks great to me, starts this weekend. I would love a new weber and i am thinking of a summit. Any one ever use a summit?
I will let you know how it goes for me
kasm
Sep 23rd, 2009, 03:39 PM
Just picked up a Brinkmann Hampton 4 burner with a side from Walmart. Regularly $389 but on sale for $250. http://yourehomegeorge.com/Canada-FeaturedPage.jsp?selection=listingDetails&assetId=40545&imageId=56361&departmentId=203&categoryId=1496&tabId=6
The materials are not the greatest (Thin metal) but it does it's job. Cooks evenly and it has a large cooking area. 60,000 BTU total. Heats up to 550 celcius with all burners running, down to about 350 with only one running.
brucered
Sep 29th, 2009, 12:54 PM
Goleafsgo,
I've seen this at the local Walmart (box is heavy enough) but am wondering how well this unit will smoke 'low and slow' without an offset firebox. Is that an add on/option for this unit?
Wondering where the best selection of charcoal smokers is to be found in the Toronto to Barrie area. Lots of different makes between vertical and offset, just not seeing too many available in the stores I have checked so far. Any help would be appreciated.
anyone actually have this smoker? i'm looking for one and the box warranty said "if not satisified, return for full refund" or something similar.
might be worth purchasing but would like some personal reviews first.
gwoo_ca
Sep 30th, 2009, 10:12 AM
I have been holding out for a new BBQ and finally have decided that now is the time.
I am thinking of spending $300 on the Broilmate Stainless BBQ from HomeDepot.
But I need some advice, if I wait longer will I be able to get a better BBQ, ie. Napoleon or Blue Ember for around $500?
I live in Calgary, if anyone can hook me up with a deal I would be owing a favour.
brucered
Sep 30th, 2009, 10:26 AM
I have been holding out for a new BBQ and finally have decided that now is the time.
I am thinking of spending $300 on the Broilmate Stainless BBQ from HomeDepot.
But I need some advice, if I wait longer will I be able to get a better BBQ, ie. Napoleon or Blue Ember for around $500?
I live in Calgary, if anyone can hook me up with a deal I would be owing a favour.
you are probably a little late for the best ratio of price/choice.
slim pickinens right now, but i'm sure you'll find something. if you don't find anything, there are always some good deals at the start of the year. when i was at HD in the spring, they had some ducanes outside in the garden section for 1/2 off lowest price, so they were like $250 or something crazy like that. i guess they didn't sell in the fall, they stuck them somewhere in the back for winter and then blew them out before putting out the new stock.
isitin
Oct 1st, 2009, 11:04 PM
Costco at Warden and Ellesmere had the same smoker for 59.99. There were about 4 left when I picked mine up today.
I have this unit at home, it sucks. I am going to put his at the curb this weekend with a FREE sheet stuck to it.
brucered
Oct 2nd, 2009, 07:36 AM
I have this unit at home, it sucks. I am going to put his at the curb this weekend with a FREE sheet stuck to it.
already packed mine back up to go back to costco.
i think i'm going to get the SMOKENATOR for my weber kettle.
mjl_toronto
Oct 2nd, 2009, 08:50 AM
already packed mine back up to go back to costco.
i think i'm going to get the SMOKENATOR for my weber kettle.
AWESOME FIND!!! I've smoked brisket and ribs in my kettle but it was such a hassle trying to maintain the temperature. Do you know how much it is? I'm guessing Ontario Gas BBQ is the only place to buy it in Canada.
brucered
Oct 2nd, 2009, 07:21 PM
I have this unit at home, it sucks. I am going to put his at the curb this weekend with a FREE sheet stuck to it.
you do know with a couple of mods, it's apparently a decent smoker. just not for me. but if you were in winnipeg, i'd take it off your hands :razz: http://brinkmansmokermods.com/default.aspx
brucered
Oct 2nd, 2009, 07:27 PM
AWESOME FIND!!! I've smoked brisket and ribs in my kettle but it was such a hassle trying to maintain the temperature. Do you know how much it is? I'm guessing Ontario Gas BBQ is the only place to buy it in Canada.
$60cdn+about $15 shipping (no duty of anything) for the smokenator and the hovergrill which allows for more meat on the grill is another $25. apparently it's great, works and then you don't have a 2nd grill/smoker lying around. just use your weber kettle.
and yes, i think it's only sold from ONTARIO GAS BBQ (http://www.bbqs.com/smokenator-m-52.html)
and for all your bbq questions, answers, recipes and smoker questions, be sure to check out BBQ SOURCE (http://www.bbqsource-forums.com/invboard/index.php?act=idx), it's a great forum
i debated and debated on which cheap smoker to get, i bought the brinkman only to realize it's not that great, i was going to do a DIY model like this one (http://bbqlikeapro.com/building-your-own-bbq-barrel-smoker.php), or this one (http://www.twothirds.org/2005/09/26/smoking-pot-a-cheap-terracotta-flower-pot-smoker-ala-alton-brown/), only to come back to the smokenator on the suggestions of the fine people on BBQ Source.
tons of videos and forums on the smokenator as well. amazon.com sells it and i think it gets all 5/5 stars.
plugdat
Oct 2nd, 2009, 09:02 PM
$60cdn+about $15 shipping (no duty of anything) for the smokenator and the hovergrill which allows for more meat on the grill is another $25. apparently it's great, works and then you don't have a 2nd grill/smoker lying around. just use your weber kettle.
and yes, i think it's only sold from ONTARIO GAS BBQ (http://www.bbqs.com/smokenator-m-52.html)
and for all your bbq questions, answers, recipes and smoker questions, be sure to check out BBQ SOURCE (http://www.bbqsource-forums.com/invboard/index.php?act=idx), it's a great forum
i debated and debated on which cheap smoker to get, i bought the brinkman only to realize it's not that great, i was going to do a DIY model like this one (http://bbqlikeapro.com/building-your-own-bbq-barrel-smoker.php), or this one (http://www.twothirds.org/2005/09/26/smoking-pot-a-cheap-terracotta-flower-pot-smoker-ala-alton-brown/), only to come back to the smokenator on the suggestions of the fine people on BBQ Source.
tons of videos and forums on the smokenator as well. amazon.com sells it and i think it gets all 5/5 stars.
i was also contemplating whether to get the smokenator but i read its easier to maintain the temperature on a Weber smokey mountain.. so i ordered one off amazon... can't wait to test it out
brucered
Oct 2nd, 2009, 09:09 PM
i was also contemplating whether to get the smokenator but i read its easier to maintain the temperature on a Weber smokey mountain.. so i ordered one off amazon... can't wait to test it out
yes, but the WSM is $344USD, plus shipping (didn't know they would ship to canada), whereas the smokenator is only $60+shipping.
don't get me wrong, the WSM would be my first choice for a smoker (or the Big Green Egg), but there is no way i can justify that much on a smoker right now.
nice purchase. pm sent.
karlsberg
Oct 4th, 2009, 10:42 PM
Just picked up a Brinkmann Hampton 4 burner with a side from Walmart. Regularly $389 but on sale for $250. http://yourehomegeorge.com/Canada-FeaturedPage.jsp?selection=listingDetails&assetId=40545&imageId=56361&departmentId=203&categoryId=1496&tabId=6
The materials are not the greatest (Thin metal) but it does it's job. Cooks evenly and it has a large cooking area. 60,000 BTU total. Heats up to 550 celcius with all burners running, down to about 350 with only one running.
Hey kasm, was just in walmart tonight and they have lowered this bbq down another $50, i will be going in tomorrow to pick it up.
mjl_toronto
Oct 5th, 2009, 08:35 AM
$60cdn+about $15 shipping (no duty of anything) for the smokenator and the hovergrill which allows for more meat on the grill is another $25. apparently it's great, works and then you don't have a 2nd grill/smoker lying around. just use your weber kettle.
and yes, i think it's only sold from ONTARIO GAS BBQ (http://www.bbqs.com/smokenator-m-52.html)
and for all your bbq questions, answers, recipes and smoker questions, be sure to check out BBQ SOURCE (http://www.bbqsource-forums.com/invboard/index.php?act=idx), it's a great forum
i debated and debated on which cheap smoker to get, i bought the brinkman only to realize it's not that great, i was going to do a DIY model like this one (http://bbqlikeapro.com/building-your-own-bbq-barrel-smoker.php), or this one (http://www.twothirds.org/2005/09/26/smoking-pot-a-cheap-terracotta-flower-pot-smoker-ala-alton-brown/), only to come back to the smokenator on the suggestions of the fine people on BBQ Source.
tons of videos and forums on the smokenator as well. amazon.com sells it and i think it gets all 5/5 stars.
Awesome info brucered! Thanks for sharing.
kasm
Oct 5th, 2009, 09:18 AM
Hey kasm, was just in walmart tonight and they have lowered this bbq down another $50, i will be going in tomorrow to pick it up.
That's a great price. I've used it half a dozen times and no problems. A similar one is rated as a best buy from Consumer's Reports for Budget Gas Grills.
One thing is because the metal is a bit thin, if you're moving it, I suggest lifting it over grass as opposed to rolling it. I tried rolling it on grass from my garage to my back yard and the torque warped the cabinet a bit so the doors stick a bit now.
karlsberg
Oct 5th, 2009, 09:39 AM
That's a great price. I've used it half a dozen times and no problems. A similar one is rated as a best buy from Consumer's Reports for Budget Gas Grills.
One thing is because the metal is a bit thin, if you're moving it, I suggest lifting it over grass as opposed to rolling it. I tried rolling it on grass from my garage to my back yard and the torque warped the cabinet a bit so the doors stick a bit now.
good to know, thanks
oilerspoiler
Oct 7th, 2009, 08:24 AM
Hey kasm, was just in walmart tonight and they have lowered this bbq down another $50, i will be going in tomorrow to pick it up.
Would you believe that I bought this BBQ from the Calgary Deerfoot Walmart for $150 yesterday?? The Natural Gas model is $150 clearance while the Propane is still $250. Weird!! I was going to save up and buy a Weber in the spring but this was too good to pass up. There was one remaining NG yesterday so I'm not sure there arew any left. There were about 6 Propane.
karlsberg
Oct 7th, 2009, 09:59 AM
Would you believe that I bought this BBQ from the Calgary Deerfoot Walmart for $150 yesterday?? The Natural Gas model is $150 clearance while the Propane is still $250. Weird!! I was going to save up and buy a Weber in the spring but this was too good to pass up. There was one remaining NG yesterday so I'm not sure there arew any left. There were about 6 Propane.
wow, that's an amazing price.
I didnt realize just how big this thing is until it was completely assembled.
albertanewbie
Oct 7th, 2009, 10:24 AM
wow, that's an amazing price.
I didnt realize just how big this thing is until it was completely assembled.
Can you set up a rotisserie on this as well?
kasm
Oct 7th, 2009, 10:43 AM
Can you set up a rotisserie on this as well?
It has the grooves to support a rotissarie, but it is not included.
rfitz69
Oct 8th, 2009, 06:06 PM
Just picked up a Brinkmann Hampton 4 burner with a side from Walmart. Regularly $389 but on sale for $250. http://yourehomegeorge.com/Canada-FeaturedPage.jsp?selection=listingDetails&assetId=40545&imageId=56361&departmentId=203&categoryId=1496&tabId=6
The materials are not the greatest (Thin metal) but it does it's job. Cooks evenly and it has a large cooking area. 60,000 BTU total. Heats up to 550 celcius with all burners running, down to about 350 with only one running.
Just picked one of these NG units up, this thing is massive, saved me a ton of cash too.
Cheers
karlsberg
Oct 8th, 2009, 10:02 PM
Just picked one of these NG units up, this thing is massive, saved me a ton of cash too.
Cheers
has anyone been able to find a cover for this thing as yet???
kasm
Oct 9th, 2009, 11:14 PM
Walmart has the 74 inch cover for $40. It's black and heavy duty. It has hanging hooks and venting handles.
kasm
Oct 10th, 2009, 09:02 AM
Walmart has the 74 inch cover for $40. It's black and heavy duty. It has hanging hooks and venting handles.
I believe the brand is called Montana.
karlsberg
Oct 10th, 2009, 10:33 AM
I was looking at that one, is it worth the 40 price point? I noticed some other covers that were $20.
rfitz69
Oct 12th, 2009, 11:41 AM
I was looking at that one, is it worth the 40 price point? I noticed some other covers that were $20.
The Montana is worth the money, high quality cover - 5 year warranty.
karlsberg
Oct 12th, 2009, 10:01 PM
thanks for the input
allenace
Oct 13th, 2009, 07:37 AM
I came across a Broil King Signet 90 Natural Gas version at the Langley Rona for $579. It was a floor model with some minor scratches but came with full warranty. Can someone comment on the build quality of these and the price?
Thanks
toronto_slim
Oct 13th, 2009, 07:47 AM
I came across a Broil King Signet 90 Natural Gas version at the Langley Rona for $579. It was a floor model with some minor scratches but came with full warranty. Can someone comment on the build quality of these and the price?
Thanks
Good build quality, as long as it's one of the retrofitted models.
see:http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/home-garden/lawn-garden/outdoor-living/gas-grills/grills/gas-grills/broil-king-signet-90-not-acceptable/gas-grills-not-acceptable.htm
Very good price. Try and get them to knock another $50 off it, and then pull out your wallet.
robskot
Oct 20th, 2009, 12:38 PM
Hey all...I am considering going and getting the broil mate 735269 which is still $299 at Home Depot...
I am just wondering if anyone has any experience with the one with adding the Natural Gas Conversion Kit?
SiR_YOI
Oct 25th, 2009, 08:09 PM
well, was just at Goeman's this weekend during their "private" sale... was going to pull the trigger on a Weber S-320 NG.. wanted to sleep on it Saturday and go do a bit of research as they were pricing it out at $1229 Tax in.
I went back today as we needed a bbq anyway but when I went back, they told me prices were plus tax since it was a "clearance" item. All the rest of the bbq's were no tax except this one:evil: plus they were telling me the cover for the bbq is now $79 (they told me max would be $69), delivery would be $50 + tax and install would be $30 + tax...
long story short, I didn't get it as I was already on the fence with the tax in figure, but now they were charging me + tax (basically all their items in the store were advertised tax in), and they wouldn't honour what the sales rep told me yesterday... very deceptive and not accommodating at all...
are there any other reputable places selling this model for a good price?
abby4000
Oct 26th, 2009, 01:17 PM
I have been in the market for a weber bbq for several weeks now. I have a buddy who works at United Lumber Home hardware and he told me that starting nov 7th they will be selling all remianing Weber and Broil King bbqs at 15% off, plus free cover and a free set of christmas lights. This is the best deal I have come across. I thought this would be a good place to give people the inside scoop!!!
Happy deal hunting.....
EvilMonkey25
Oct 26th, 2009, 06:10 PM
well, was just at Goeman's this weekend during their "private" sale... was going to pull the trigger on a Weber S-320 NG.. wanted to sleep on it Saturday and go do a bit of research as they were pricing it out at $1229 Tax in.
I went back today as we needed a bbq anyway but when I went back, they told me prices were plus tax since it was a "clearance" item. All the rest of the bbq's were no tax except this one:evil: plus they were telling me the cover for the bbq is now $79 (they told me max would be $69), delivery would be $50 + tax and install would be $30 + tax...
long story short, I didn't get it as I was already on the fence with the tax in figure, but now they were charging me + tax (basically all their items in the store were advertised tax in), and they wouldn't honour what the sales rep told me yesterday... very deceptive and not accommodating at all...
are there any other reputable places selling this model for a good price?
Any chance you wanna take a trip down to Buffalo? Home Depot sells 'em for $869. Good exchange rate, and shouldn't have to pay duty on it (made in USA)?, just Canadian taxes.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xr5/R-100497524/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
pixcolor
Oct 26th, 2009, 06:28 PM
Haven't seen Primo grills mentioned here, but I see they have a promotion on now
http://www.primogrill.com/jdpromo.html
They will ship to Canada, but cost for shipping to Western Canada is $200, so I think it's a bit high for me. Maybe useful for someone in the east.
Veinless
Nov 1st, 2009, 03:06 PM
If anyone is looking for the 44000BTU Broil-Mate (model 165154), Home Depot on Leila in Winnipeg has at least 10 on the shelf. Price is $199.00.
toronto_slim
Nov 1st, 2009, 03:31 PM
Any chance you wanna take a trip down to Buffalo? Home Depot sells 'em for $869. Good exchange rate, and shouldn't have to pay duty on it (made in USA)?, just Canadian taxes.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xr5/R-100497524/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
oooh...nice...from their wbsite: 90day return policy, but "items purchased at The Home Depot U.S., The Home Depot Canada or The Home Depot Mexico may not be returned across borders." Wonder if the Weber warranty would be valid in Canada?
flying triangle
Nov 9th, 2009, 10:42 AM
Need some help choosing between broil mate #735269 or #115994. Any input would be greatly appreciated and both are priced at $299 at HD.
Thanks in advance.
snider
Nov 9th, 2009, 12:16 PM
Hey all...I am considering going and getting the broil mate 735269 which is still $299 at Home Depot...
I am just wondering if anyone has any experience with the one with adding the Natural Gas Conversion Kit?
Any know if $299 is the regluar price or end of season clearance price for this model? Just wondering if I should be looking to snag one now or just wait til next spring if it's going to be the same price?
dhk614
Nov 9th, 2009, 01:18 PM
Hey, Thanks for the heads-up, abby4000!
Found the Online Flyer for this sale at http://ul-hhbc.hhstores.ca/bbq_sale.php.
Shopped around a bit 'cause I need a replacement unit right now anyway, but their "Free BBQ Cover" makes a great price an even sweeter deal.
I have been in the market for a weber bbq for several weeks now. I have a buddy who works at United Lumber Home hardware and he told me that starting nov 7th they will be selling all remianing Weber and Broil King bbqs at 15% off, plus free cover and a free set of christmas lights. This is the best deal I have come across. I thought this would be a good place to give people the inside scoop!!!
Happy deal hunting.....
robbiemac
Nov 9th, 2009, 01:22 PM
I just got a Weber Smokey Mountain Cooker on aimtofind.com at the same price as Amazon.com, they ship with FEDEX and it was easy peasy.
Saved $150+ over price I get here including shipping.
marksman
Nov 9th, 2009, 01:35 PM
Any know if $299 is the regluar price or end of season clearance price for this model? Just wondering if I should be looking to snag one now or just wait til next spring if it's going to be the same price?
I'm pretty sure that is the end of season clearance price, as I paid the same back in August and it was on sale then. If you search this thread, you will see that it went on sale several times over the season, regular price was $475, but it often went on sale for somewhere between $299 and $319. But don't count on that kind of pricing until we are well into the BBQ season next year.
snider
Nov 9th, 2009, 01:39 PM
I'm pretty sure that is the end of season clearance price, as I paid the same back in August and it was on sale then. If you search this thread, you will see that it went on sale several times over the season, regular price was $475, but it often went on sale for somewhere between $299 and $319. But don't count on that kind of pricing until we are well into the BBQ season next year.
Thanks, good to know. In this case I'll call around to see if there's any locally. I have a gas line so would need to purchase the Natural Gas kit to it also.
kitestiff
Nov 9th, 2009, 01:53 PM
Thanks, good to know. In this case I'll call around to see if there's any locally. I have a gas line so would need to purchase the Natural Gas kit to it also.
In many cases most bbq manufacturers will HIGHLY discourage conversion kits from being used. If not assembled properly there is the possibility for leaks and/or fire.
Food for thought.
kitestiff
Nov 9th, 2009, 01:54 PM
See here (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/united-lumber-hh-hot-bbq-deal-all-stock-weber-broilking-bbqs-15-off-811719/#post9725281) for details on 15% off in-stock Weber and BK sale.
eastcoast_gsx
Nov 11th, 2009, 08:36 AM
Can someone help me decide please.
I am leaning towards the Broil Mate.
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909223&Ntt=909223&catalogId=11601&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113002&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
The other one is the Charmglow 5 Burner 8109520F
http://reviews.homedepot.ca/1998/908974/reviews.htm
Anyone know where these things are made?
Both are $299.
miss_swan
Nov 11th, 2009, 03:33 PM
Can someone help me decide please.
I am leaning towards the Broil Mate.
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909223&Ntt=909223&catalogId=11601&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113002&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
The other one is the Charmglow 5 Burner 8109520F
http://reviews.homedepot.ca/1998/908974/reviews.htm
Anyone know where these things are made?
Both are $299.
On name alone ... i'd probably go with Broilmate ... take FWIW though. :)
brucered
Nov 11th, 2009, 04:21 PM
Can someone help me decide please.
I am leaning towards the Broil Mate.
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909223&Ntt=909223&catalogId=11601&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113002&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
The other one is the Charmglow 5 Burner 8109520F
http://reviews.homedepot.ca/1998/908974/reviews.htm
Anyone know where these things are made?
Both are $299.
not sure where they are made, but judging by price, i would say NOT IN N/A.
+1 for the Broilmate. but at this time of year, you might be better off waiting until the spring. i saw a few at HD this spring out in the garden section for DIRT CHEAP. there were 2 Ducane Affinity 4100 NG BBQs for under $300, retail probably around $750+
marksman
Nov 12th, 2009, 01:31 PM
In many cases most bbq manufacturers will HIGHLY discourage conversion kits from being used. If not assembled properly there is the possibility for leaks and/or fire.
Food for thought.
Except that in this case, the BBQ manufacturer advertises the fact that this BBQ can be easily switched to Natural Gas, and they sell the kit themselves. I ordered mine through Home Hardware, and installed it myself (extremely easy to do).
Can someone help me decide please.
I am leaning towards the Broil Mate.
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909223&Ntt=909223&catalogId=11601&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113002&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
The other one is the Charmglow 5 Burner 8109520F
http://reviews.homedepot.ca/1998/908974/reviews.htm
Anyone know where these things are made?
Both are $299.
I have the Broilmate, and am very happy with it. BTW, they are made in China
chandans
Dec 18th, 2009, 11:42 PM
whens a better time to buy spring before the season starts or august/september at the end?
canehdianman
Feb 11th, 2010, 03:05 PM
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but it's getting closer to BBQ season, and I'm hunting for a deal on a Broil King or Weber.
Anyone know of anything out there?
jbarns
Feb 11th, 2010, 03:17 PM
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but it's getting closer to BBQ season, and I'm hunting for a deal on a Broil King or Weber.
Anyone know of anything out there?
canadian tire has 30-40% off bbq's
I'm thinking about getting the thermos one.
Tig
Feb 11th, 2010, 03:22 PM
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but it's getting closer to BBQ season, and I'm hunting for a deal on a Broil King or Weber.
Anyone know of anything out there?
CT has a Weber Spirit E310 for $500. Some members have been able to price match home depot with a 10% discount ($447). But it seems that HD will beat a regular priced item by 10% but only match a sale priced item, which is what the CT Weber is. Like I said though, with a little persistance, some RFD'ers have found store managers that are a little "soft" on this rule.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/GasBBQs/PRD~0853016P/Weber%252BSpirit%252BE310%252BSeries%252B3-Burner%252BPropane%252BBBQ.jsp
laboremus
Feb 12th, 2010, 06:28 AM
Nice to see that BBQ tread got bumped up over the Snowblower one! That makes you optimistic ;)
brucered
Feb 12th, 2010, 06:51 AM
for everyone:
BEST TIME TO BUY IS END OF SEASON
but if you can't wait, you have to buy now.
rcthorne
Feb 12th, 2010, 09:50 AM
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but it's getting closer to BBQ season, and I'm hunting for a deal on a Broil King or Weber.
Anyone know of anything out there?
No apologies...Let's resurrect this thing.....I need a deal on a Weber Charcoal. One touch Gold..Performer...smokey mountain....Anyone got any deals.
canehdianman
Feb 12th, 2010, 10:07 AM
No apologies...Let's resurrect this thing.....I need a deal on a Weber Charcoal. One touch Gold..Performer...smokey mountain....Anyone got any deals.
Yeah, I'm not sorry at all.
I want a smoking deal on a BBQ (pun intended)
longsey
Feb 12th, 2010, 10:10 AM
This is YMMV but I managed to grab a One Touch performer at Lowes for $288 ($318 on clearance - $30 off $250 coupon found in their 'Tools' magazine) on clearance about a month ago. This was at the Steeles and Markham location in Scarborough. I didn't post it as I figured it may have been a one shot deal.
$288 isn't the lowest price it was found for last year but compared to RONA which was selling it for $429 when I was looking, $288 is a bargain.
So maybe check your local Lowes if you have one and get them to scan the price for you.
Oh yeah, and the BBQ is awesome. Burgers and roasted veggies never tasted so good.....
gibson00
Feb 16th, 2010, 09:31 AM
No apologies...Let's resurrect this thing.....I need a deal on a Weber Charcoal. One touch Gold..Performer...smokey mountain....Anyone got any deals.
Me too, and can't find any deals, and most places don't have any stock yet of the charcoal grills from Weber. Home Depot has them on their website, I was looking at the ~$400 'Performer'. You can order it online, but then you are also paying about $60 shipping...
Saw the 'Silver One Touch' at Kent hardware in Halifax for about $150, but it is pretty basic, no catch bucket for coals, no nifty propane starter for the coals, no side tables, etc.
Walmart actually has some no-name charcoal grill with the catch bucket and propane starter for about $90, but not sure if it would fall apart after 1 Summer, whereas the Weber will likely last a lifetime..
brucered
Feb 16th, 2010, 04:37 PM
Me too, and can't find any deals, and most places don't have any stock yet of the charcoal grills from Weber. Home Depot has them on their website, I was looking at the ~$400 'Performer'. You can order it online, but then you are also paying about $60 shipping...
Saw the 'Silver One Touch' at Kent hardware in Halifax for about $150, but it is pretty basic, no catch bucket for coals, no nifty propane starter for the coals, no side tables, etc.
Walmart actually has some no-name charcoal grill with the catch bucket and propane starter for about $90, but not sure if it would fall apart after 1 Summer, whereas the Weber will likely last a lifetime..
even if the weber doesn't last a lifetime, it'll last for years and years and comes with fantastic Customer service and warranty.
we have a basic weber bar-b-kettle (like the silver) works great, it has a coal catcher, but you have to manually clean it etc. does the job, food tastes the same as on the performer, but $300 cheaper (use the money to buy steak, ribs) and for $15 you can buy a chimney starter to light the coals with no lighter fluid.
in my opinion the WEBER SILVER is the best bang for the buck in charcoal grills. :cheesygri
rcthorne
Feb 16th, 2010, 04:48 PM
Me too, and can't find any deals, and most places don't have any stock yet of the charcoal grills from Weber. Home Depot has them on their website, I was looking at the ~$400 'Performer'. You can order it online, but then you are also paying about $60 shipping...
Saw the 'Silver One Touch' at Kent hardware in Halifax for about $150, but it is pretty basic, no catch bucket for coals, no nifty propane starter for the coals, no side tables, etc.
Walmart actually has some no-name charcoal grill with the catch bucket and propane starter for about $90, but not sure if it would fall apart after 1 Summer, whereas the Weber will likely last a lifetime..
Man, I'm in NS too.....I'll let you know if I find any local deals....I've been everywhere with no success...
disque
Feb 17th, 2010, 06:25 PM
No apologies...Let's resurrect this thing.....I need a deal on a Weber Charcoal. One touch Gold..Performer...smokey mountain....Anyone got any deals.
I was at my local Walmart and they had these BBQ's for $149.00.. I'm not sure of the quality, I plan on buying one tomorrow...
Gas barbecue UNIFLAME
GBC956W1-C (Franklin)
Cooking Area – 662 Sq. in. (24 Burgers)
480 sq. in. Cooking Surface
182 sq. in. Warming Surface
60,000 BTUs Total
4 Main Burners – 12,000 BTUs Each
1 Side Burner – 12,000 BTUs
Grill Construction
Stainless Steel Lid
Large Side Shelves
Porcelain Coated Cast Iron Cooking Grid
Electronic Multi-Spark Ignition
20 lbs. Propane Tank Not Included
Warranty: 1 Year Limited
Grill Cover: 68"
Assembled Size 56.6” L x 23” W x 46.9” H
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7276/gasbarbecue1280991.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/i/gasbarbecue1280991.jpg/)
brucered
Feb 17th, 2010, 07:03 PM
I was at my local Walmart and they had these BBQ's for $149.00.. I'm not sure of the quality, I plan on buying one tomorrow...
Gas barbecue UNIFLAME
GBC956W1-C (Franklin)
Cooking Area – 662 Sq. in. (24 Burgers)
480 sq. in. Cooking Surface
182 sq. in. Warming Surface
60,000 BTUs Total
4 Main Burners – 12,000 BTUs Each
1 Side Burner – 12,000 BTUs
Grill Construction
Stainless Steel Lid
Large Side Shelves
Porcelain Coated Cast Iron Cooking Grid
Electronic Multi-Spark Ignition
20 lbs. Propane Tank Not Included
Warranty: 1 Year Limited
Grill Cover: 68"
Assembled Size 56.6” L x 23” W x 46.9” H
i'm guessing CRAP. if it's $149 and 4 burners with a side, it can't be that great of quality, but to each his own i guess.
if that's all you can afford, that it'll be fine, but if you can afford more, i'd look around. broilmate/broilking, weber ($)
222much
Feb 17th, 2010, 07:29 PM
for $149 looks ok,
Bought a Vermont Casting at the whse (when they were still Canadian made) , they have now moved to China...
Friend has had his VC for 12 yrs now...
Canadian Tire had up to 50% off BBQ's at Mavis Store in Mississauga last week , looked like lots of good delas, not sure what is left...
brucered
Feb 17th, 2010, 07:49 PM
for $149 looks ok,
Bought a Vermont Casting at the whse (when they were still Canadian made) , they have now moved to China...
Friend has had his VC for 12 yrs now...
Canadian Tire had up to 50% off BBQ's at Mavis Store in Mississauga last week , looked like lots of good delas, not sure what is left...
actually, not they are bankrupt. i got a 3 burner with side burner last year NG model for under $300 cdn or chine made, it's rock solid.
jbarns
Feb 22nd, 2010, 01:25 PM
does anybody know if these things go on sale before the season? Got a house to fit one of these bad boys now:)
I didn't have enough money when canadian tire had a big sale:(
swiftfox
Feb 26th, 2010, 10:50 AM
Does anyone have an opinion on this grill?
http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10334201&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA|114|22990|236&N=4010823&Mo=6&pos=0&No=2&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=236&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&ec=BCCA-EC13305-Cat22990&topnav=
I'm new to this infrared searing burner business. Little help?
corbro
Feb 26th, 2010, 07:29 PM
does anybody know if these things go on sale before the season? Got a house to fit one of these bad boys now:)
I didn't have enough money when canadian tire had a big sale:(
canadian tire has all there centro stuff on clearance... and some of there other stuff as well....
leashbrown
Feb 26th, 2010, 08:29 PM
I'm new to the RFD forums, so apologies if this should be posted elsewhere... but my grandmother bought me a natural gas bbq by accident for christmas, had it assembled and everything with a big bow on it for me this year. She does not know the difference between propane and natural gas and I have no use for the natural gas. Was hoping to sell and buy a propane bbq with the cash.
It is a Beaumark BM64NG 64,000 BTU bbq with rotisserie and a side burner. Already assembled, comes with manual, never been used.
This link (http://goshopping.thestar.com/shop/product--catId_1002406__locale_en__productId_5436508.html) looks like the same model I have.
I think with shipping and everything, she paid $350 for it. That is all I am looking for. (It was a good deal back when she bought it from what I understand.)
Thanks!
(In the meantime, any deals for propane BBQs currently would be much appreciated... I will be checking out CT soon)
brucered
Feb 26th, 2010, 08:38 PM
I'm new to the RFD forums, so apologies if this should be posted elsewhere... but my grandmother bought me a natural gas bbq by accident for christmas, had it assembled and everything with a big bow on it for me this year. She does not know the difference between propane and natural gas and I have no use for the natural gas. Was hoping to sell and buy a propane bbq with the cash.
It is a Beaumark BM64NG 64,000 BTU bbq with rotisserie and a side burner. Already assembled, comes with manual, never been used.
This link (http://goshopping.thestar.com/shop/product--catId_1002406__locale_en__productId_5436508.html) looks like the same model I have.
I think with shipping and everything, she paid $350 for it. That is all I am looking for. (It was a good deal back when she bought it from what I understand.)
Thanks!
(In the meantime, any deals for propane BBQs currently would be much appreciated... I will be checking out CT soon)
your link is dead, but if it were me. if you are a home owner, i'd spring for the $300 or so it would cost to hook up a NG line and be done with it. after converting last year, i'd NEVER go back to LG (propane).
it's cheaper, never run out, no tanks to refill and buy, burns more evenly
leashbrown
Feb 26th, 2010, 09:19 PM
your link is dead, but if it were me. if you are a home owner, i'd spring for the $300 or so it would cost to hook up a NG line and be done with it. after converting last year, i'd NEVER go back to LG (propane).
it's cheaper, never run out, no tanks to refill and buy, burns more evenly
I agree completely, and would do this if i were a homeowner, but I just rent right now. i'm not having much luck finding a link either, but I have pictures if anyone is interested, and will post on craigslist soon too.
Couper
Feb 28th, 2010, 07:30 PM
Can anyone recommend a good smoker? Haven't ever had one before, but I really enjoy the taste of smoked meats and want a smoker.
brucered
Feb 28th, 2010, 08:08 PM
Can anyone recommend a good smoker? Haven't ever had one before, but I really enjoy the taste of smoked meats and want a smoker.
Weber Smokey Mountain, but expect to pay $400-600 for one up here in canada.
if you find a good deal on one, send me a PM, i'm also looking for one, don't don't want to settle for crap.
the weber is the cats ass and will last for years and years. it's what the pro's use.
jbarns
Feb 28th, 2010, 08:21 PM
canadian tire has all there centro stuff on clearance... and some of there other stuff as well....
i dont see any sales at canadian tire, this week at lest..
craigdcan
Mar 1st, 2010, 12:11 PM
The Weber or BGE - http://www.biggreenegg.ca/canada/
Another option would be the Bradley Smoker.
isitin
Mar 1st, 2010, 01:07 PM
I just got a Weber Smokey Mountain Cooker on aimtofind.com at the same price as Amazon.com, they ship with FEDEX and it was easy peasy.
Saved $150+ over price I get here including shipping.
This is a US company. They only ship in the continental US............:evil:
isitin
Mar 1st, 2010, 01:12 PM
CT has a Weber Spirit E310 for $500. Some members have been able to price match home depot with a 10% discount ($447). But it seems that HD will beat a regular priced item by 10% but only match a sale priced item, which is what the CT Weber is. Like I said though, with a little persistance, some RFD'ers have found store managers that are a little "soft" on this rule.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/GasBBQs/PRD~0853016P/Weber%252BSpirit%252BE310%252BSeries%252B3-Burner%252BPropane%252BBBQ.jsp
Go to their website & they are $749.99 LP & $799.99 Nat Gas. $80 more than anyone else.
CheapoFillipo
Mar 1st, 2010, 02:09 PM
I was at my local Walmart and they had these BBQ's for $149.00.. I'm not sure of the quality, I plan on buying one tomorrow...
Gas barbecue UNIFLAME
GBC956W1-C (Franklin)
Can we just start a new thread?
What's the point of having 37ish odd pages of deals that are old and out of date??
as a sidebar... i bought an Ingleside (by BBQTek) from Walmart last year
assembled it, did not reach over 300degrees... they send me to their website (http://www.bbqtek.com/us/trouble_01.php)
Tried their solve, did not reach over 300degrees... called, got sent a new thermometer
attached that, did not reach over 300degrees... called, "maybe it's your thermometer", no, i just got one.... got sent a new "quick release hose"
attached that, did not reach over 300degrees... called, "maybe it's your thermometer", no, i just got one.... "maybe it's your hose ", no, i just got one.... got sent a new main unit (3.5 ft piece with all the attachments and dials) and NO INSTRUCTIONS
at this point, I am now getting dangerously close to my 90 day return at W-Mart (about 2wks for delivery each time)
I go back to the store to explain the load of BS I am getting from Tek to the W-Mart Manager. (I should say that at this point, I no longer have a box) The manager is cool about it and lets me exchange mine for the same BBQ they have in inventory.
I get it home, assemble it halfway and...
did not reach over 300degrees
I put it back in the box (which I kept this time) and return it
I will be spending for a better name brand when I buy one this year... inexpensive is awesome but ... if it won't heat up.. why bother??
jbarns
Mar 1st, 2010, 02:26 PM
Can we just start a new thread?
What's the point of having 37ish odd pages of deals that are old and out of date??
as a sidebar... i bought an Ingleside (by BBQTek) from Walmart last year
assembled it, did not reach over 300degrees... they send me to their website (http://www.bbqtek.com/us/trouble_01.php)
Tried their solve, did not reach over 300degrees... called, got sent a new thermometer
attached that, did not reach over 300degrees... called, "maybe it's your thermometer", no, i just got one.... got sent a new "quick release hose"
attached that, did not reach over 300degrees... called, "maybe it's your thermometer", no, i just got one.... "maybe it's your hose ", no, i just got one.... got sent a new main unit (3.5 ft piece with all the attachments and dials) and NO INSTRUCTIONS
at this point, I am now getting dangerously close to my 90 day return at W-Mart (about 2wks for delivery each time)
I go back to the store to explain the load of BS I am getting from Tek to the W-Mart Manager. (I should say that at this point, I no longer have a box) The manager is cool about it and lets me exchange mine for the same BBQ they have in inventory.
I get it home, assemble it halfway and...
did not reach over 300degrees
I put it back in the box (which I kept this time) and return it
I will be spending for a better name brand when I buy one this year... inexpensive is awesome but ... if it won't heat up.. why bother??
this thread can be good for reviews and previous prices. you don't have to look through 37 pages, just go to last page and start backwards until you get into an irrelevant date.
isitin
Mar 1st, 2010, 03:54 PM
Can we just start a new thread?
What's the point of having 37ish odd pages of deals that are old and out of date??
as a sidebar... i bought an Ingleside (by BBQTek) from Walmart last year
assembled it, did not reach over 300degrees... they send me to their website (http://www.bbqtek.com/us/trouble_01.php)
Tried their solve, did not reach over 300degrees... called, got sent a new thermometer
attached that, did not reach over 300degrees... called, "maybe it's your thermometer", no, i just got one.... got sent a new "quick release hose"
attached that, did not reach over 300degrees... called, "maybe it's your thermometer", no, i just got one.... "maybe it's your hose ", no, i just got one.... got sent a new main unit (3.5 ft piece with all the attachments and dials) and NO INSTRUCTIONS
at this point, I am now getting dangerously close to my 90 day return at W-Mart (about 2wks for delivery each time)
I go back to the store to explain the load of BS I am getting from Tek to the W-Mart Manager. (I should say that at this point, I no longer have a box) The manager is cool about it and lets me exchange mine for the same BBQ they have in inventory.
I get it home, assemble it halfway and...
did not reach over 300degrees
I put it back in the box (which I kept this time) and return it
I will be spending for a better name brand when I buy one this year... inexpensive is awesome but ... if it won't heat up.. why bother??
That is what happens with these real cheap Chinese bbqs. They are junk. Find out if you can get your money back & buy a Broil King. MADE IN CANADA.
codtongues
Mar 1st, 2010, 04:20 PM
I think I am going to wait for a deal on a Broil King. It seems you get more bang for the buck than with a Weber.
Hambone
Mar 2nd, 2010, 05:02 AM
Anyone seen any deals on lump charcoal? Namely Royal Oak or Maple Leaf? I've seen the big bag of Royal Oak for $14.99.
For those interested in charcoal briquettes, a new set of Kingsford coupons are apparently coming out this month. Last year's coupon was $10 off the big bag with selected purchase of a couple of other grocery items.
new_vr
Mar 2nd, 2010, 06:06 AM
Anyone seen any deals on lump charcoal? Namely Royal Oak or Maple Leaf? I've seen the big bag of Royal Oak for $14.99.
I haven't seen any deals, but I usually buy the Maple Leaf lump charcoal at Rona.
brucered
Mar 2nd, 2010, 07:01 AM
Anyone seen any deals on lump charcoal? Namely Royal Oak or Maple Leaf? I've seen the big bag of Royal Oak for $14.99.
For those interested in charcoal briquettes, a new set of Kingsford coupons are apparently coming out this month. Last year's coupon was $10 off the big bag with selected purchase of a couple of other grocery items.
i buy the big royal oak bag from CT
rocking23nf
Mar 2nd, 2010, 02:27 PM
i like the royal oak from CT also, however find it almost burns too hot, I think I might buy a bag of lump charcoal, and briquets next time.
Hello-
Mar 2nd, 2010, 08:31 PM
What are some BBQ recommendations for under $300. Not looking for anything fancy or big, just a simple floor standing BBQ for my backyard/deck. I want a cast iron grill, even heat distribution and easy to find replacement parts.
brucered
Mar 3rd, 2010, 06:58 AM
What are some BBQ recommendations for under $300. Not looking for anything fancy or big, just a simple floor standing BBQ for my backyard/deck. I want a cast iron grill, even heat distribution and easy to find replacement parts.
then you want to spend more than $300. :(
ikeandtike
Mar 3rd, 2010, 07:37 AM
What are some BBQ recommendations for under $300. Not looking for anything fancy or big, just a simple floor standing BBQ for my backyard/deck. I want a cast iron grill, even heat distribution and easy to find replacement parts.
I had the same requirements....I picked up the weber Q200 (for $199).
I love it...it isn't the Biggest grill size out there but there is enough room for 5 good t-bones, or 6 striploins with room to spare!
smuPoker
Mar 3rd, 2010, 08:32 AM
CT has some brand new Cuisinart BBQs for sale now. They aren't listed on CT's website, iirc, but you can find info about them here:
http://www.cuisinartbbqs.com/
They look like they are really well put together and the Cuisinart name is well-known.
They are priced $350/500/650 iirc. I plan on getting the 500 one soon.
toronto_slim
Mar 3rd, 2010, 08:41 AM
CT has some brand new Cuisinart BBQs for sale now. They aren't listed on CT's website, iirc, but you can find info about them here:
http://www.cuisinartbbqs.com/
They look like they are really well put together and the Cuisinart name is well-known.
They are priced $350/500/650 iirc. I plan on getting the 500 one soon.
Interesting alternative to their Centro line. Great features but quality must be well below their Napoleon Ted Reader line (I'm waiting for Napoleon Ted Reader 485 Series 3-Burner Natural Gas BBQ Product #85-3021-0 to go on sale). Nowhere on the Cuisinart website does it say where they are mfr'd and the 'store locator' button takes you to the CT website, so I'm guessing it's a 'brand name house brand'. Id wait for reviews before taking the leap.
smuPoker
Mar 3rd, 2010, 08:53 AM
Interesting alternative to their Centro line. Great features but quality must be well below their Napoleon Ted Reader line (I'm waiting for Napoleon Ted Reader 485 Series 3-Burner Natural Gas BBQ Product #85-3021-0 to go on sale). Nowhere on the Cuisinart website does it say where they are mfr'd and the 'store locator' button takes you to the CT website, so I'm guessing it's a 'brand name house brand'. Id wait for reviews before taking the leap.
I've checked out the floor demo they had put together at a local CT and the quality seems to be there. I'm also in love with the Napolean 485 though.
da_hool
Mar 3rd, 2010, 09:18 AM
What are some BBQ recommendations for under $300. Not looking for anything fancy or big, just a simple floor standing BBQ for my backyard/deck. I want a cast iron grill, even heat distribution and easy to find replacement parts.
Weber Q 300 when they go on sale. I got mine for $319.20 (20% discount) from Home Depot last year and love it! I think it went as low as 25% off at Home Depot.
darock_sayz
Mar 3rd, 2010, 09:39 AM
Any thoughts or comments on the BBQ below ?
http://www.amazon.com/Weber-4411001-Spirit-E-210-Propane/dp/B001H1GWSA/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1MZTXMJMVIP62&colid=214A5W2FDQLD2
I live close to the border with free shipping from amazon...so I am thinking it may be a better deal than some of the stuff I have seen around town at the big box retailers.
Penlakes
Mar 3rd, 2010, 06:02 PM
I had the same requirements....I picked up the weber Q200 (for $199).
I love it...it isn't the Biggest grill size out there but there is enough room for 5 good t-bones, or 6 striploins with room to spare!
Where did you find it?
Spray
Mar 3rd, 2010, 06:03 PM
I need the cheapest natural gas BBQ possible.
Hambone
Mar 3rd, 2010, 07:29 PM
Nowhere on the Cuisinart website does it say where they are mfr'd and the 'store locator' button takes you to the CT website, so I'm guessing it's a 'brand name house brand'. Id wait for reviews before taking the leap.
They are made by Winners Products Engineering Ltd. (http://www.winnersproducts.com/locations.htm) and since most of their locations are in China, it's a good bet they are made there too.
They look like they are really well put together and the Cuisinart name is well-known.
I wouldn't rely solely on the Cuisinart name being slapped on the BBQ to indicate the quality of the BBQ. The company that builds these merely paid Cuisinart to use their name. Is this company going to be selling parts in 3 years to replace rusted out parts?
impactorange
Mar 4th, 2010, 07:27 AM
Any thoughts on this recent offering from Lowe's? I'm looking for something under $300 and am not picky... don't need it to be a workhorse:
http://www.lowes.ca/products/search.aspx?listingid=-2087785123
GRILL MASTER Four-Burner Propane Barbeque
Shows up as $248 - for me in Toronto
IceQue
Mar 4th, 2010, 08:31 AM
Any thoughts or comments on the BBQ below ?
http://www.amazon.com/Weber-4411001-Spirit-E-210-Propane/dp/B001H1GWSA/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1MZTXMJMVIP62&colid=214A5W2FDQLD2
I live close to the border with free shipping from amazon...so I am thinking it may be a better deal than some of the stuff I have seen around town at the big box retailers.
Thats a good price for one. order it from http://homeeverything.com/They have a pricematch policy so u'll get it cheaper from them instead.
toronto_slim
Mar 4th, 2010, 09:38 AM
Thats a good price for one. order it from http://homeeverything.com/They have a pricematch policy so u'll get it cheaper from them instead.
wow: Weber S310 NG for $795 US shipped to GTA. :-0 Somebody stop me before I pull the trigger
IceQue
Mar 4th, 2010, 09:58 AM
wow: Weber S310 NG for $795 US shipped to GTA. :-0 Somebody stop me before I pull the trigger
Sadly its only free shipping to anywhere in the USA
toronto_slim
Mar 4th, 2010, 10:32 AM
Sadly its only free shipping to anywhere in the USA
yeah, but only $50 (plus $745 BBQ cost) to ship something that heavy to my door? Have to check out the customs implications of buying a BBQ made in China but assembled in the US, but if they're not outrageous I'm so there!
67mike
Mar 4th, 2010, 12:18 PM
yeah, but only $50 (plus $745 BBQ cost) to ship something that heavy to my door? Have to check out the customs implications of buying a BBQ made in China but assembled in the US, but if they're not outrageous I'm so there!
Weber is made in china??????
Thought it was made in USA?????
toronto_slim
Mar 4th, 2010, 12:52 PM
Weber is made in china??????
Thought it was made in USA?????
Their Genesis line may still use US-made parts but lower end (gee, I feel funny using that to describe a Weber :) ) use parts from China, assembled in USA
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Weber-Genesis-S-310-Stainless-Steel-Natural-Gas-Grill/10878996
codtongues
Mar 4th, 2010, 06:05 PM
yeah, but only $50 (plus $745 BBQ cost) to ship something that heavy to my door? Have to check out the customs implications of buying a BBQ made in China but assembled in the US, but if they're not outrageous I'm so there!
When you find out about the customs aspect can you please post and let us know.
cwinter
Mar 5th, 2010, 06:15 AM
I noticed last night that Sears has the Weber Genesis on sale for $899.
I'm sure there is a $50 off $500 coupon floating around.
$849 seems ok...
Newtown
Mar 5th, 2010, 08:35 AM
Can anyone tell me what a decent price for a Weber Q120 is and who generally has it the cheapest? Seems like Sears, Home Depot, Costco and possibly Rona sell it but only Sears has it listed on their website (for $240). Thanks
jbarns
Mar 5th, 2010, 09:02 AM
canadian tire has their clearance on bbq's again:)
anybody got any opinion on the thermos? looks like it has good reviews on ct.ca
petah
Mar 5th, 2010, 09:46 AM
nice! missed the last BBQ sale.. I think I'll pick up the Spirit E-310 BBQ.
YorkGrad
Mar 5th, 2010, 08:45 PM
Yeah I thought I would pick up the weber e-310 at home depot, but they had such absolutely abysmal customer service (the only qualified "seasonal" salesperson was AWOL for 25 minutes), and they wouldn't beat the price at CT by 10% as advertised (i know they usually only do this for regular priced items, but I thought with the poor service they would consider it), so I changed my mind and left.
For someone that recently bought a house and will spend thousands of dollars over the next year renovating and furnishing it, I will think twice about spending my money at Home Depot now (in case anyone is wondering, the store I am referring to is located at warden + ellesmere).
escapehatch
Mar 5th, 2010, 10:49 PM
Yeah I thought I would pick up the weber e-310 at home depot, but they had such absolutely abysmal customer service (the only qualified "seasonal" salesperson was AWOL for 25 minutes), and they wouldn't beat the price at CT by 10% as advertised (i know they usually only do this for regular priced items, but I thought with the poor service they would consider it), so I changed my mind and left.
I had a similar experience at another HD one evening. They matched the price but didn't beat it, although it would've only saved ~$25 so I just bought it anyway. CT customer service is pretty bad in my experience.
I just hope the price isn't lower than the $499 I paid. I haven't even used it yet.
Hopefully they have a cover on sale.
sLAsh
Mar 5th, 2010, 10:56 PM
Can anyone tell me what a decent price for a Weber Q120 is and who generally has it the cheapest? Seems like Sears, Home Depot, Costco and possibly Rona sell it but only Sears has it listed on their website (for $240). Thanks
Lebarons has it for $185. unfortunately they have a lousy website because it is just links to individual pdf pages from there catalogue.
http://www.lebaron.ca/pdf_files_sp10/camping/weber.pdf
mr_clark
Mar 7th, 2010, 01:49 AM
I noticed last night that Sears has the Weber Genesis on sale for $899.
I'm sure there is a $50 off $500 coupon floating around.
$849 seems ok...
I don't see them on sale at sears.ca. Do you have a link?
drawde
Mar 8th, 2010, 02:18 AM
Hey guys,
Just looking for some advice. I'm looking to get 2 barbeques, a charcoal bbq for great tasting bbq when I'm not in a rush, and a propane bbq.
Was looking at the weber 22.5 inch standard charcoal bbq, think its listed at $129 at Home depot. Anyone have any better options or recommendations.
Also looking for a Stainless steel (mainly just for looks), propane bbq, maybe with sear burner, and I think stainless steel grills. Was wondering what name brand I should be looking for. Was looking to spend anywhere from $500 up to $1000.
I dont mind paying a bit more for something that will last a longer time.
What are your thoughts?
brucered
Mar 8th, 2010, 06:56 AM
Hey guys,
Just looking for some advice. I'm looking to get 2 barbeques, a charcoal bbq for great tasting bbq when I'm not in a rush, and a propane bbq.
Was looking at the weber 22.5 inch standard charcoal bbq, think its listed at $129 at Home depot. Anyone have any better options or recommendations.
Also looking for a Stainless steel (mainly just for looks), propane bbq, maybe with sear burner, and I think stainless steel grills. Was wondering what name brand I should be looking for. Was looking to spend anywhere from $500 up to $1000.
I dont mind paying a bit more for something that will last a longer time.
What are your thoughts?
i have the 22-1/2" bar-b-kettle, similar to the silver, it's FANTASTIC. got one used last year and weber actually warrantied the entire bowl, so it's like new. works great, lot's of space. got to WalMart or CT and get one of those chimney starters for charcoal, so you don't need to use lighter fluid and buy LUMP charcoal, not the chemical infested stuff.
for $129 it's a great charcoal bbq and will last for years. not need to spend the extra $100 for the fancy ash disposal system, the silver one works fine.
bf_ns
Mar 8th, 2010, 07:22 AM
Yeah I thought I would pick up the weber e-310 at home depot, but they had such absolutely abysmal customer service (the only qualified "seasonal" salesperson was AWOL for 25 minutes), and they wouldn't beat the price at CT by 10% as advertised (i know they usually only do this for regular priced items, but I thought with the poor service they would consider it), so I changed my mind and left.
For someone that recently bought a house and will spend thousands of dollars over the next year renovating and furnishing it, I will think twice about spending my money at Home Depot now (in case anyone is wondering, the store I am referring to is located at warden + ellesmere).
I am sick of the home Depot, their Price match has so many loop holes I would be suprised if 10% of the peiople who try get it on any item. I tried with an air conditioner and they told me the price was too low even though they verified it and it was above their cost, then the manager said they didn't price match that store (best buy). I tired the E310 webber and they refused because it was clearance. I managed to get a new in box webber E310 at CT (last one around Halifax).
I will go out of my way to not buy things at Home Depot until they change their ways. I do alot of purchasing through work too and they won't see any of that money either.
drawde
Mar 8th, 2010, 11:19 AM
i have the 22-1/2" bar-b-kettle, similar to the silver, it's FANTASTIC. got one used last year and weber actually warrantied the entire bowl, so it's like new. works great, lot's of space. got to WalMart or CT and get one of those chimney starters for charcoal, so you don't need to use lighter fluid and buy LUMP charcoal, not the chemical infested stuff.
for $129 it's a great charcoal bbq and will last for years. not need to spend the extra $100 for the fancy ash disposal system, the silver one works fine.
Thanks for the response. Cant decide between the silver model or gold for the charcoal weber bbq. Read somewhere to pay extra for the gold as it makes less of a mess with the ash catcher on windy days and comes with a hinged grate. Definitely going to get a chimney starter. Watched a youtube video on them and they are awesome. And they are only $14.99 at Canadian Tire.
No clue on what to get though yet for the gas grill.
WaltDisney
Mar 8th, 2010, 11:37 AM
Thanks for the response. Cant decide between the silver model or gold for the charcoal weber bbq. Read somewhere to pay extra for the gold as it makes less of a mess with the ash catcher on windy days and comes with a hinged grate. Definitely going to get a chimney starter. Watched a youtube video on them and they are awesome. And they are only $14.99 at Canadian Tire.
No clue on what to get though yet for the gas grill.
I would suggest getting the gold. These grills last a long time and I feel spending extra for the easy cleanup is worth it. And try to get the Weber charcoal chimney. It's bigger than most and allows good airflow.
drawde
Mar 8th, 2010, 11:45 AM
I would suggest getting the gold. These grills last a long time and I feel spending extra for the easy cleanup is worth it. And try to get the Weber charcoal chimney. It's bigger than most and allows good airflow.
Yeah, just finished reading tons of reviews and I'm going with the Weber one touch gold version. Doesn't seem to be that much more money for something that lasts so long. I will look into the weber charcoal chimney if I can find it. If anyone knows where I can find it, let me know and the price.
Did some checks for prices on the bbq:
Home depot: $229
Sears: $179
Bass Pro Shop: $179
Anyone know of any cheaper places to buy them? Looks to be alot cheaper in the states going for regular price of about $139.
new_vr
Mar 8th, 2010, 11:59 AM
I will look into the weber charcoal chimney if I can find it. If anyone knows where I can find it, let me know and the price.
I got my chimney at TA Appliances. I think since i have seen them at Rona and HD. Definitely buy one, they are great for starting the charcoal.
toronto_slim
Mar 8th, 2010, 01:30 PM
When you find out about the customs aspect can you please post and let us know.
Well, I called Canada Customs and the good news is that there is NO duty on BBQ's manufactured in the US or Mexico (eg. Weber Genesis) and shipped or brought into Canada. If they are not manufactured in the US or Mexico it is only 8%. PST & GST do apply, of course. The bad news (for me) is that shipping to the GTA from homeeverything.com is $150, not the $50 stated on their website, which kills the $746 price. AND they use UPS (groan). But the lack of duty does make me want to pursue US prices. Maybe I'll set up an account at a mailbox place down in Buffalo...or get it at Wallymart in Buff - you can order online and they ship free to their stores.
Askari
Mar 8th, 2010, 01:58 PM
weber genesis s320 -
homedepot.ca - $1249
homedepot.com - $849
$400 price difference!!!
EvilMonkey25
Mar 8th, 2010, 02:30 PM
******** eh? With the parity in the dollar an all...
67mike
Mar 8th, 2010, 03:35 PM
Well, I called Canada Customs and the good news is that there is NO duty on BBQ's manufactured in the US or Mexico (eg. Weber Genesis) and shipped or brought into Canada. If they are not manufactured in the US or Mexico it is only 8%. PST & GST do apply, of course. The bad news (for me) is that shipping to the GTA from homeeverything.com is $150, not the $50 stated on their website, which kills the $746 price. AND they use UPS (groan). But the lack of duty does make me want to pursue US prices. Maybe I'll set up an account at a mailbox place down in Buffalo...or get it at Wallymart in Buff - you can order online and they ship free to their stores.
They ship FREE within the USA! If you live near a US bordertown....they usually have a UPS, USPS depot that you can send your items to...drive and pick-up....that is what I normally do.
Hambone
Mar 8th, 2010, 08:06 PM
The Weber chimney starter is $30 at Lowes (was $20 last year...go figure :rolleyes: ) . For what it's worth, I've read the knockoff chimney starters really suck at getting the coals going. With some of the cheaper ones I can see why, very few holes, hardly no air flow. I have a Weber starter, works very very well, never had any problems getting the coals going.
I agree with getting the Gold Weber, the hinged grill alone makes it worth the extra money.
brucered
Mar 8th, 2010, 09:11 PM
The Weber chimney starter is $30 at Lowes (was $20 last year...go figure :rolleyes: ) . For what it's worth, I've read the knockoff chimney starters really suck at getting the coals going. With some of the cheaper ones I can see why, very few holes, hardly no air flow. I have a Weber starter, works very very well, never had any problems getting the coals going.
I agree with getting the Gold Weber, the hinged grill alone makes it worth the extra money.
i have a WM one, GRILLLIFE brand (made by ONWARD (http://www.omcbbq.com/), who makes weber). holds a ton of charcoal, works and lights perfectly everytime. $11 i think.
http://www.bbqsource-forums.com/invboard/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=11638
Jim Jay
Mar 8th, 2010, 09:40 PM
First time buying BBQ, hope someone give me advice :cheesygri
Anyone having experience on the Thermos BBQ, positive review in CT web
Thermos Heatwave 3-Burner Propane BBQ
Product #85-1632-8
Sale $479.99
Reg. $799.99 / Save 40%
If compare with Weber, which one is better
Weber Spirit E310 Series 3-Burner Propane BBQ
Product #85-3016-4
Sale $499.99
Reg. $749.99 / Save 30%
brucered
Mar 8th, 2010, 10:07 PM
First time buying BBQ, hope someone give me advice :cheesygri
Anyone having experience on the Thermos BBQ, positive review in CT web
Thermos Heatwave 3-Burner Propane BBQ
Product #85-1632-8
Sale $479.99
Reg. $799.99 / Save 40%
If compare with Weber, which one is better
Weber Spirit E310 Series 3-Burner Propane BBQ
Product #85-3016-4
Sale $499.99
Reg. $749.99 / Save 30%
WEBER, hands down. :razz: you really can't go wrong buying a weber, whether it's a charcoal, Q series, Spirit, Genesis etc
best warrant in the business, but like others have said, some of the lower ends lines (spirit) are made in china, but still backed by their excellent customer service and warrant. i would highly recommend NOT buying a THERMOS, COLEMAN, CENTRO, CUISINART etc.
Weber, Broil-King(Mate) are both great.
drawde
Mar 8th, 2010, 10:19 PM
The Weber chimney starter is $30 at Lowes (was $20 last year...go figure :rolleyes: ) . For what it's worth, I've read the knockoff chimney starters really suck at getting the coals going. With some of the cheaper ones I can see why, very few holes, hardly no air flow. I have a Weber starter, works very very well, never had any problems getting the coals going.
I agree with getting the Gold Weber, the hinged grill alone makes it worth the extra money.
Ya, I think I will just go for the weber.....really not that much more money when you consider how long they last.
Think I may pick up the weber one touch gold bbq in the next couple of days as well.
Lowest price I've found so far is $179 both at Sears and Bass Pro Shop.
I guess if Home depot does price match 10 percent off difference I can get it for a few bucks cheaper.
drawde
Mar 10th, 2010, 03:21 PM
Just bought my Weber One Touch Gold charcoal grill at Bass Pro Shop for $179 for the 22.5 inch version.
Seems to be the cheapest place that I could find. Sears has it for $179 online as well but I believe its the 18.5 inch model. Went to sears to check but they didnt have any on the floor.
Called some other local bbq shops and the cheapest I found it for was $199.
Bass Pro shop did not have the Weber Rapid Chimney starter, neither did Home depot. I found it at Lowes for anyone that is looking, it was $29.99.
Also found a generic bbq cover at lowes that fit the bbq perfectly for like $7.99
Ultra999
Mar 10th, 2010, 06:45 PM
Congrats, Drawde, on the purchase as I've been thinking of getting one as well.
Picking one up for $179 is pretty good. In the Vancouver area I can only see them for about $200, but I'm hoping they go on sale before the summer starts.
Wish me luck.
Hambone
Mar 10th, 2010, 07:38 PM
Yeah congrats on the purchase, I'd be jealous but I just picked up a large Big Green Egg last month. :D
Those Weber kettles are great BBQs. I bought the 22.5" silver last year and used it right up until Christmas when I smoked a turkey. If you want to get into smoking, look into the "Smokenator". Of course you can do this without one of those but it makes it nice and easy and gives you more control over your smoke process. They're $60 at bbqs.com (http://www.bbqs.com/smokenator-1000-p-699.html). Probably find it cheaper online.
I also picked up one of those $8 covers from Lowes as a temporary cover for my Egg (until I get my table built). Noticed though, when I put it up to the light, there are a few tiny holes in the cover so it isn't 100% water proof.
Hambone
Mar 10th, 2010, 07:45 PM
i have a WM one, GRILLLIFE brand (made by ONWARD (http://www.omcbbq.com/), who makes weber). holds a ton of charcoal, works and lights perfectly everytime. $11 i think.
LOL...doesn't even look like you've ever used it! ;)
Seriously, I've read of some people having to drill more holes in those types to get more airflow in them get the charcoal going faster.
sLAsh
Mar 10th, 2010, 08:54 PM
LOL...doesn't even look like you've ever used it! ;)
Seriously, I've read of some people having to drill more holes in those types to get more airflow in them get the charcoal going faster.
If u have a problem with air flow prop up one side or even better start it on the grill to allow air from the bottom
brucered
Mar 10th, 2010, 08:59 PM
LOL...doesn't even look like you've ever used it! ;)
Seriously, I've read of some people having to drill more holes in those types to get more airflow in them get the charcoal going faster.
that was a pic before i started using it (pic for a bbq forum i'm on). works perfectly, holds a whack of lump charcoal.
If u have a problem with air flow prop up one side or even better start it on the grill to allow air from the bottom
i start it directly on the weber kettle to allow for more airflow underneath, it's amazing how easy they are to use and how red hot the charcoal gets without any fuel or chemicals.
if you have a sideburner on your gas grill and it's near your kettle (as mine is) you can always put the chimney starter on the sider burner for 3-5min and it starts it fantastically. i do that when i'm lazy :o
Majoram
Mar 10th, 2010, 10:47 PM
I'm buying a grill for the first time and need some advice. All I've ever done is grilling but I would like to try smoking and rotisserie as well.
I am willing to consider a Gas grill but I've been told that gas is not as good as charcoal when it comes to taste and I've never used anything but charcoal.
My budget is below $300 but if I will go up to $400 if I can't find something I really like.
My main problems with charcoal are:
- getting the coals going
- cleanup of the dust
- Keeping a steady heat (dust build up starts covering the coals & lowering the heat).
My concerns with gas are:
- Taste (BIG issue! After all it's all about the food).
- Cleanup if anything drops below and between the burners.
Other requirements:
- Need space to keep the sauce, meat, etc.
I have a deck that I surround with a heavy plastic in winter and so I would be grilling in winter as well.
Any suggestions?
drawde
Mar 10th, 2010, 11:44 PM
I'm buying a grill for the first time and need some advice. All I've ever done is grilling but I would like to try smoking and rotisserie as well.
I am willing to consider a Gas grill but I've been told that gas is not as good as charcoal when it comes to taste and I've never used anything but charcoal.
My budget is below $300 but if I will go up to $400 if I can't find something I really like.
My main problems with charcoal are:
- getting the coals going
- cleanup of the dust
- Keeping a steady heat (dust build up starts covering the coals & lowering the heat).
My concerns with gas are:
- Taste (BIG issue! After all it's all about the food).
- Cleanup if anything drops below and between the burners.
Other requirements:
- Need space to keep the sauce, meat, etc.
I have a deck that I surround with a heavy plastic in winter and so I would be grilling in winter as well.
Any suggestions?
I guess if you were looking for charcoal, and looking for space for meats, sauces etc, take a look at this:
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909220&Ntt=909220&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
Called the Weber Performer and $399 at Home depot.
brucered
Mar 11th, 2010, 06:43 AM
I guess if you were looking for charcoal, and looking for space for meats, sauces etc, take a look at this:
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909220&Ntt=909220&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
Called the Weber Performer and $399 at Home depot.
+1 on the weber performer. it's the cat's ass of bbq grills. $399 right now, $299 if you can until the end of the bbq season or get really lucky and find one still priced for that at HD
and yes, it's much better flavour and quite easy to use once you try it. start with burgers, dogs, chicken, then venture out to other stuff.
Hambone
Mar 11th, 2010, 06:54 AM
My main problems with charcoal are:
- getting the coals going
- cleanup of the dust
- Keeping a steady heat (dust build up starts covering the coals & lowering the heat).
- See the other threads about chimney starters. Starting your charcoal is not an issue with these. The Performer has a gas ignition system anyway.
- Cleanup can be dusty but with the above mentioned Webers, they have ash catchers to help with that. Also, if you use lump charcoal rather than briquettes, you'll have less ash. Plus the food tastes better and no chemicals.
- If that happens (I haven't really noticed that with lump charcoal), give your coal bed a stir with a long metal poker like a skewer stick. I have to stir around the coals (briquettes) when I smoke using the Smokenator. Helps the ash drop to the bottom of the kettle.
I'm also +1 on the Weber Performer.
Majoram
Mar 11th, 2010, 09:39 AM
I guess if you were looking for charcoal, and looking for space for meats, sauces etc, take a look at this:
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909220&Ntt=909220&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
Called the Weber Performer and $399 at Home depot.
+1 on the weber performer. it's the cat's ass of bbq grills. $399 right now, $299 if you can until the end of the bbq season or get really lucky and find one still priced for that at HD
and yes, it's much better flavour and quite easy to use once you try it. start with burgers, dogs, chicken, then venture out to other stuff.
- See the other threads about chimney starters. Starting your charcoal is not an issue with these. The Performer has a gas ignition system anyway.
- Cleanup can be dusty but with the above mentioned Webers, they have ash catchers to help with that. Also, if you use lump charcoal rather than briquettes, you'll have less ash. Plus the food tastes better and no chemicals.
- If that happens (I haven't really noticed that with lump charcoal), give your coal bed a stir with a long metal poker like a skewer stick. I have to stir around the coals (briquettes) when I smoke using the Smokenator. Helps the ash drop to the bottom of the kettle.
I'm also +1 on the Weber Performer.
Hmm the Performer looks good. I'll have to go to HD for a closer look.
Wish it was a bit cheaper though.
Not sure about waiting since I really don't want to miss all the summer without some BBQ fun :)
Is there anywhere to get these grills cheaper? Online perhaps?
Thanks all!
Post any other suggestions if you have them!
Samsung123
Mar 11th, 2010, 09:50 AM
Canadian Tire has the Master Chef T620 LP on clearance for $199 from $450.
Propane version of 85-3009. Massive 888 sq. in. total cooking surface. Four stainless steel tube burners. 66,000 total BTUs: 54,000 primary BTUs, 12,000 side burner BTUs
http://reviews.canadiantire.ca/9045/0853008P/reviews.htm
porsche22
Mar 11th, 2010, 12:06 PM
Canadian Tire has the Master Chef T620 LP on clearance for $199 from $450.
Propane version of 85-3009. Massive 888 sq. in. total cooking surface. Four stainless steel tube burners. 66,000 total BTUs: 54,000 primary BTUs, 12,000 side burner BTUs
http://reviews.canadiantire.ca/9045/0853008P/reviews.htm
too bad the propane version isn't on sale... anyone recommend a cheapy BBQ with a good side burner?? You think the side burner gets hot enought to use as a Wok??
smuPoker
Mar 11th, 2010, 01:21 PM
This may be a BBQ n00b question, but can anyone tell me the major differences and pros/cons of Broil King vs Broil Mate?
rcthorne
Mar 11th, 2010, 01:26 PM
Anyone know of any Big Green Egg deals out there, Or even A primo Oval deal...I'm heading to Maine next week, and might pick one up there, unless I can find a deal here....I have my Broil King up for sale to offset some of the cost
67mike
Mar 11th, 2010, 03:10 PM
This may be a BBQ n00b question, but can anyone tell me the major differences and pros/cons of Broil King vs Broil Mate?
Broil King is Premium line....made in Canada. I believe Broil Mate is MADE IN CHINA...need I say more????:o
Impossibles
Mar 11th, 2010, 03:17 PM
This may be a BBQ n00b question, but can anyone tell me the major differences and pros/cons of Broil King vs Broil Mate?
Broil King, Broil Mate, and Sterling (as well as Weber) are all made by Onward Manufacturing Corp. BK, BM, and Sterling have many models that are exactly the same except for a couple cosmetic differences. Different stores sell different brands.
If you're concerned about where the unit is manufactured, check the box. For the most part it seems like all the stainless steel grills are made in china.
encinc
Mar 11th, 2010, 04:48 PM
Sears has the Broil King "Crown 40" on sale for $399 Sat and Sun. Is this a good deal? I'm looking for a decent bbq under $500.
SupsD
Mar 11th, 2010, 05:19 PM
too bad the propane version isn't on sale... anyone recommend a cheapy BBQ with a good side burner?? You think the side burner gets hot enought to use as a Wok??
The propane version is also on sale. I just pick one up at Major Mac / Woodbine Ave Location.
Hambone
Mar 11th, 2010, 06:16 PM
Anyone know of any Big Green Egg deals out there, Or even A primo Oval deal...I'm heading to Maine next week, and might pick one up there, unless I can find a deal here....I have my Broil King up for sale to offset some of the cost
If you can wait until June, the Toronto EggFest (http://www.biggreeneggtoronto.com/id73.html) will have demo eggs for sale. Otherwise, a large will cost about $1100 plus a few things thrown in, usually.
toronto_slim
Mar 11th, 2010, 08:34 PM
Anyone know of any Big Green Egg deals out there, Or even A primo Oval deal...I'm heading to Maine next week, and might pick one up there, unless I can find a deal here....I have my Broil King up for sale to offset some of the cost
If you're in Toronto try the Cottage Life show at the end of March. There are usually some dealers there with good prices.
rocking23nf
Mar 12th, 2010, 10:04 AM
Ugh I have 1100 dollars of rona giftcards and I really want the weber genesis s320 model, its 1250.
Homedepot.ca is 1250$ also (im looking for a lower price so rona will match)
homedepot.com, 869$
I really need a rona 15% day.
smuPoker
Mar 12th, 2010, 10:11 AM
Has anyone here had any bad experiences with Broil Mate BBQs? I thinking of getting one and would like to know more about them.
Minimini
Mar 12th, 2010, 11:54 AM
Hey guys,
Just looking for some advice. I'm looking to get 2 barbeques, a charcoal bbq for great tasting bbq when I'm not in a rush, and a propane bbq.
Was looking at the weber 22.5 inch standard charcoal bbq, think its listed at $129 at Home depot. Anyone have any better options or recommendations.
Also looking for a Stainless steel (mainly just for looks), propane bbq, maybe with sear burner, and I think stainless steel grills. Was wondering what name brand I should be looking for. Was looking to spend anywhere from $500 up to $1000.
I dont mind paying a bit more for something that will last a longer time.
What are your thoughts?
You may consider Napoleon Prestige I + Charcoal Tray. The grill is made in North America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjqHeCqDbAY
petah
Mar 12th, 2010, 12:32 PM
Sears has the Broil King "Crown 40" on sale for $399 Sat and Sun. Is this a good deal? I'm looking for a decent bbq under $500.
$399 seems to be regular price at the BBQ specialty stores.... not much of a deal if you can buy that at $399 on a regular day. (www.bbqs.com)
67mike
Mar 12th, 2010, 01:58 PM
Has anyone here had any bad experiences with Broil Mate BBQs? I thinking of getting one and would like to know more about them.
see below
smuPoker
Mar 12th, 2010, 02:15 PM
They ARE QUALITY pieces.
Mine is over 15 years old....just ordered a new one.:)
Thanks for the input.
67mike
Mar 12th, 2010, 02:23 PM
Thanks for the input.
Sorry..............I misread your post I thought you said Broil King.
Broil Mate is their lower quality line sold in big box stores (namely HD). It has an inferior H style burner and I believe it is made in CHINA, which is not good.
Broil King on the other hand are made in Canada...good stuff.
smuPoker
Mar 12th, 2010, 03:19 PM
Sorry..............I misread your post I thought you said Broil King.
Broil Mate is their lower quality line sold in big box stores (namely HD). It has an inferior H style burner and I believe it is made in CHINA, which is not good.
Broil King on the other hand are made in Canada...good stuff.
Thanks again. I've decided on a Broil King. Hoping to get it tonight or tomorrow. Nothing super duper, just the Signet 20.
67mike
Mar 12th, 2010, 07:06 PM
Thanks again. I've decided on a Broil King. Hoping to get it tonight or tomorrow. Nothing super duper, just the Signet 20.
I just bought their Monarch 20....the smallest/cheapest they sell....$279.00 with coupon at sears.ca
I like the infinity 8 burner better than the new style tube burner found on the signet and up line.
Fr0sty
Mar 13th, 2010, 07:11 AM
So I was going to pick up the weber in friday - but found out the hard way that CT's sales end thursdays. - that plan is out the window- not paying $750 for the weber.
Anyone have any experience with the Cusinart bbq's (they seem pretty solid)?
CheapoFillipo
Mar 13th, 2010, 07:34 AM
Has anyone bought a BBQ in the states? does anyone know the duty etc? Is it worth it... I am just about to start looking as i will be in the US next weekend.
any advice?
ok, before someone LMGTFY's me :) apparently duty free for NA made items...
who makes North American BBQs? (other than Weber, Napolean, Ducane)
brucered
Mar 13th, 2010, 08:11 AM
So I was going to pick up the weber in friday - but found out the hard way that CT's sales end thursdays. - that plan is out the window- not paying $750 for the weber.
Anyone have any experience with the Cusinart bbq's (they seem pretty solid)?
new, unpredictable, probably not going to be around for parts, outsourced so not mfg by cuisinart
toronto_slim
Mar 13th, 2010, 09:32 AM
Has anyone bought a BBQ in the states? does anyone know the duty etc? Is it worth it... I am just about to start looking as i will be in the US next weekend.
any advice?
ok, before someone LMGTFY's me :) apparently duty free for NA made items...
who makes North American BBQs? (other than Weber, Napolean, Ducane)
duty on BBQs not made in the US is only 8% - add GST/PST of course.
miss_swan
Mar 13th, 2010, 10:22 AM
Ugh I have 1100 dollars of rona giftcards and I really want the weber genesis s320 model, its 1250.
Homedepot.ca is 1250$ also (im looking for a lower price so rona will match)
homedepot.com, 869$
I really need a rona 15% day.
If you live close to the border and can swing a pick up from a package acceptance company ... i'd get this:
http://www.racent.biz/Weber-Summit-S-450-Stainless-2008-Model-SALE-p/1740001.htm
- our CAD dollar is getting tantalazing close to par ... close enough. :cheesygri
- probably cost you 10 bucks for acceptance
- no duties since Weber is made USA and included shipping in US
- just taxes as you would usually pay
- unfortunately, can't use your GC's ... but just sell them anyways. :)
- bring a truck
- legit company, I bought my Weber Q220 from these guys
Penlakes
Mar 13th, 2010, 10:23 AM
[QUOTE=Fr0sty;10473661]So I was going to pick up the weber in friday - but found out the hard way that CT's sales end thursdays. - that plan is out the window- not paying $750 for the weber.
IMHO I don't think this particular model was worth the $500 sale price either, so you probably won't regret it. An earlier post(s) intimated that the flavorizers and grates were pooly made and would most likely need to be replaced in the near future. Not what one would expect from a Weber, I would think.
miss_swan
Mar 13th, 2010, 10:30 AM
duty on BBQs not made in the US is only 8% - add GST/PST of course.
I would remove the "only" as 8% on a 1k bbq is ... 80 bucks!
I don't know about you but 80 bucks clear and after taxes is like making 120-140 bucks gross for the "average" person. That's almost a full days work. 1k for a bbq is not way out there either. You can spend a lot more than that too.
All things considered, if you have two bbq's side by side that you prefer and one is duty-free and one is 80 bucks more ... which one are you going to choose?
67mike
Mar 13th, 2010, 10:40 AM
[QUOTE=Fr0sty;10473661]So I was going to pick up the weber in friday - but found out the hard way that CT's sales end thursdays. - that plan is out the window- not paying $750 for the weber.
IMHO I don't think this particular model was worth the $500 sale price either, so you probably won't regret it. An earlier post(s) intimated that the flavorizers and grates were pooly made and would most likely need to be replaced in the near future. Not what one would expect from a Weber, I would think.
^^^This is the truth. The weber spirt with it's cheap and terrible grates/flavorizers is NOT worth $500. IMHO.
There are MUCH better barbecues offered by Broil King, for less money.
If you are going to buy a weber.....get the all stainless Genesis models.
ahsun
Mar 13th, 2010, 10:48 AM
Has anyone here had any bad experiences with Broil Mate BBQs? I thinking of getting one and would like to know more about them.
Sorry..............I misread your post I thought you said Broil King.
Broil Mate is their lower quality line sold in big box stores (namely HD). It has an inferior H style burner and I believe it is made in CHINA, which is not good.
Broil King on the other hand are made in Canada...good stuff.
This was discussed earlier on in this thread. Broil King, Broil Mate and Sterling are all produced by the same manufacturing company (Onward Manufacturing) in Kitchener-Waterloo. I think someone in this thread also mentioned that their Broil Mate has lasted them quite a few years even though it was left out in the winters. That said, Broil Mates appear to be exclusive to Home Depot, where they don't carry Broil Kings. Rona does carry Broil Kings.
I'm not sure but it's possible a few minor parts may be made in China, but from what I understand all of these are Canadian built BBQs. Only difference is the features available for each brand / line and quality of the grill surface.
shoppingkart
Mar 13th, 2010, 12:11 PM
This was discussed earlier on in this thread. Broil King, Broil Mate and Sterling are all produced by the same manufacturing company (Onward Manufacturing) in Kitchener-Waterloo. I think someone in this thread also mentioned that their Broil Mate has lasted them quite a few years even though it was left out in the winters. That said, Broil Mates appear to be exclusive to Home Depot, where they don't carry Broil Kings. Rona does carry Broil Kings.
I'm not sure but it's possible a few minor parts may be made in China, but from what I understand all of these are Canadian built BBQs. Only difference is the features available for each brand / line and quality of the grill surface.
The Onward Manufacturing website clearly states, that Broil King is made in Canada, but does not mention the origin of the other two brands.
Penlakes
Mar 13th, 2010, 04:14 PM
Has anyone here had any bad experiences with Broil Mate BBQs? I thinking of getting one and would like to know more about them.
A friend has one and has had it for 6 years - replaced burner, flavorizer and temp. gauge all under warranty. He says it's just ok, but customer service has been very good.
67mike
Mar 13th, 2010, 04:54 PM
This was discussed earlier on in this thread. Broil King, Broil Mate and Sterling are all produced by the same manufacturing company (Onward Manufacturing) in Kitchener-Waterloo. I think someone in this thread also mentioned that their Broil Mate has lasted them quite a few years even though it was left out in the winters. That said, Broil Mates appear to be exclusive to Home Depot, where they don't carry Broil Kings. Rona does carry Broil Kings.
I'm not sure but it's possible a few minor parts may be made in China, but from what I understand all of these are Canadian built BBQs. Only difference is the features available for each brand / line and quality of the grill surface.
The burner/grate and flavorizers all are critical components of a good barbecue.
The Sterling and Broil Mate are CHEAP versions made specifically for a few big box stores...HD and HH in this case. The burners are Horrid H design that will rot/rust quickly. They are NOT solid stainless steel, but rather stainless "coated" steel....big, difference! The grills and flavorizers are cheap versions most likely Chinese in origin.
You are MUCH better off spending a few dollars more or shopping at another store and buying the real deal...Broil King.
67mike
Mar 13th, 2010, 04:56 PM
The Onward Manufacturing website clearly states, that Broil King is made in Canada, but does not mention the origin of the other two brands.
Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner.
:eek:
Fr0sty
Mar 13th, 2010, 05:00 PM
new, unpredictable, probably not going to be around for parts, outsourced so not mfg by cuisinart
actually I noticed the cusinart and the coleman were very similar - I'm guessing made by the same manufacturer.. who sells Broil King again?
RFDPants
Mar 13th, 2010, 06:39 PM
actually I noticed the cusinart and the coleman were very similar - I'm guessing made by the same manufacturer.. who sells Broil King again?
Sears
Rona
Home Hardware
specialty BBQ shops
Ctrl-Z
Mar 14th, 2010, 01:47 AM
I've got a basic model Broil King, had it for about 12 years and it's been left outside for the duration. I'm just now having to replace the stainless steel figure 8 burner and that's the only part I've had to replace (though the bottom rack thing is nearly rusted away and the igniter long since died). The grates are still in near perfect shape. I remember it cost about 2x the amount of a typical cheap BBQ at the time but it was well worth it.
smuPoker
Mar 14th, 2010, 08:31 AM
I put together my Broil King Signet 20 yesterday afternoon and used it last night. I am very happy with my purchase.
mclearn
Mar 14th, 2010, 03:01 PM
I also bought a Signet 20 yesterday. It was actually very easy to put together - a lot of attention was paid to the design.
I got mine from Dickson Home Hardware @Avenue and 401.
NG version was $449, with a $60 store credit and a free BBQ brush. I used the store credit to pay for most of a BBQ cover.
It was a little sad to make hamburgers in the pouring rain last night, but I couldn't wait :)
If you go for the Signet 70, you get $70 store credit.
cypher
Mar 15th, 2010, 10:14 AM
Anyone know how good Weber is with warranty issues for those who purchase a unit in the US and bring it to Canada?
SKYMTL
Mar 15th, 2010, 10:25 AM
I bought a lower-end Sterling last year and I can tell you that it has a Made in Canada sticker right on it.
67mike
Mar 15th, 2010, 10:50 AM
I bought a lower-end Sterling last year and I can tell you that it has a Made in Canada sticker right on it.
Yup...the aluminum shell, stand, wheels are most likely canadian...the grate, burner, etc...most likely chinese.:o
MS MSP
Mar 15th, 2010, 11:13 AM
Any comments on the Blue Ember BBQ's? In particular the FG50057_706?
I saw it at Home Depot this weekend, regular price is $600.
allenace
Mar 15th, 2010, 04:45 PM
Any comments on the Blue Ember BBQ's? In particular the FG50057_706?
I saw it at Home Depot this weekend, regular price is $600.
From what I understand, Blue Ember is made by Fiesta. I have a 3 year old Fiesta Maximus now and will be replacing it hopefully sometime this season. Really poor heat distribution and needed to replace too many parts. I would never buy another Fiesta again. Last year, Blue Ember had a large recall as well. http://cpsr-rspc.hc-sc.gc.ca/PR-RP/recall-retrait-eng.jsp?re_id=807
jbarns
Mar 15th, 2010, 04:50 PM
i just pulled the trigger on that nexgrill at costco. found it in store for $400. I know its not the best quality or support but I couldn't find anything better compared to the size and budget.
going to set it up tonight...hopefully it will last a while:)
http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10334201&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA|114&N=4010822&Mo=14&No=0&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=22990&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&topnav=
Captain Snazzypants
Mar 15th, 2010, 04:54 PM
Perhaps off-topic a bit, but has anyone ever seen a deal on a Green Egg? It is the only BBQ I want to ever have, but they cost quite a bit...
brucered
Mar 15th, 2010, 05:25 PM
Perhaps off-topic a bit, but has anyone ever seen a deal on a Green Egg? It is the only BBQ I want to ever have, but they cost quite a bit...
it's on topic, but i don't think you'll find a deal on them. someone posted something about DEMO DAYS in toronto, but you'd have to look back a page or 2 to get the details.
i wish i had one too.
Netcruzer
Mar 16th, 2010, 09:27 AM
I'm looking for an affordable yet decent BBQ.
So-far the 2010 Master Chef S405 is my top contender, it's 189 at CT.
Are there any others that can match the features and price?
I've been unimpressed with the quality and materials (grates and burner) of the Walmart models.
Clearly I'm only looking at the cheaper off-brands well under 300, This will be a propane BBQ that will be used for less than 5 years.
I totally understand you get what you pay for, and in the future I will splurge on a real brand NG model. For now, I just want my first decent real BBQ to upgrade from my 'Big George'
gerrythegreat
Mar 16th, 2010, 11:09 AM
Was just at costco in St Jérome and they have the Blue Ember bbq at 720 $ instead of regular 900$.
Eldorado
Mar 16th, 2010, 11:53 AM
Like everyone else here, looking at a future BBQ purchase
I want a good brand/model, so looking at the Weber Genesis.. likely the 310
Can any give any insight on possible sale prices that have been had on these guys?
Also, best time for good deals, April-May timeframe?
SKYMTL
Mar 16th, 2010, 12:08 PM
Yup...the aluminum shell, stand, wheels are most likely canadian...the grate, burner, etc...most likely chinese.:o
Just like the Broil Kings. ;)
aiyiyi
Mar 16th, 2010, 12:13 PM
i just pulled the trigger on that nexgrill at costco. found it in store for $400. I know its not the best quality or support but I couldn't find anything better compared to the size and budget.
going to set it up tonight...hopefully it will last a while:)
http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10334201&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA|114&N=4010822&Mo=14&No=0&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=22990&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&topnav=
Any comments on this one? I saw it the other day and was thinking of buying it tomorrow.
S N Frost
Mar 16th, 2010, 12:16 PM
Yup...the aluminum shell, stand, wheels are most likely canadian...the grate, burner, etc...most likely chinese.:o
I don't think thats necessarily a problem. My last BBQ was an old Falcon with a good quality steel frame and cast aluminum shell that lasted a couple decades. In that time, I replaced the made in Mexico (if I remember correctly) and then later made in China burner and lower grate a couple times. Each time, it was relatively cheap, fairly straightforward to do and gave an otherwise new barbeque a new lease on life.
So, if the parts inside rust out in a few years, I just look at it as reasonable maintenance on a cheap BBQ. Yes, its something that could be avoided by spending a lot more on something high-end, but its certainly a lot better than a cheap stamped sheetmetal all-Chinese model.
S N Frost
Mar 16th, 2010, 12:20 PM
Any comments on this one? I saw it the other day and was thinking of buying it tomorrow.
Not specific to this model, I do dislike it when a model is quoted as being a 70000 BTU model, but in fact the main burners are 30000 BTU, and 70K is just the sum of all the burners, including the side burner.
Its a big-looking number, but when it comes down to the main burners, its a 30K BTU BBQ, with some accessory burners.
bofh
Mar 17th, 2010, 08:47 AM
Just received the latest Canadian Tire flyer and the Napoleon TR 485 RSB Propane BBQ ($999.99) will be on sale for $849 starting Thursday.
l0cke
Mar 17th, 2010, 08:52 AM
Just received the latest Canadian Tire flyer and the Napoleon TR 485 RSB Propane BBQ ($999.99) will be on sale for $849 starting Thursday.
Are there any other BBQ deals in this flyer?
toronto_slim
Mar 17th, 2010, 08:58 AM
Just received the latest Canadian Tire flyer and the Napoleon TR 485 RSB Propane BBQ ($999.99) will be on sale for $849 starting Thursday.
did the flyer mention the NG version? It retails for $1049 and if it's $899 I may go for it. Awesome deals on 2008 model Webers in the US (try aimtofind.com) but Weber didn't introduce the sear plate until their 2010 models. And I want my sear plate! :cheesygri
nounou23
Mar 17th, 2010, 09:05 AM
From what I understand, Blue Ember is made by Fiesta. I have a 3 year old Fiesta Maximus now and will be replacing it hopefully sometime this season. Really poor heat distribution and needed to replace too many parts. I would never buy another Fiesta again. Last year, Blue Ember had a large recall as well. http://cpsr-rspc.hc-sc.gc.ca/PR-RP/recall-retrait-eng.jsp?re_id=807
I was at homedepot on the weekend and they told me it might go down to 399$ in a few weeks from now. I was interested but I called the company to know about the warranty and it's only 1 year on everything...
I would pay the extra to get a little more warranty since that Blue ember BBQ has lots of extra parts (plug / light etc...)
masteva
Mar 17th, 2010, 10:15 AM
I have been digging through the thread a fair bit, and there isn't much mention of the $399 NexGrill from Costco (pretty sure it is in store only so no link). Anyone have any insight on it? Thanks
cargoagent
Mar 17th, 2010, 01:53 PM
did the flyer mention the NG version? It retails for $1049 and if it's $899 I may go for it. Awesome deals on 2008 model Webers in the US (try aimtofind.com) but Weber didn't introduce the sear plate until their 2010 models. And I want my sear plate! :cheesygri
Awesome deals on 2008 Weber models is an understatement!!!
Summit S-650 NG for $1299 plus $195 shipping to the GTA. Closeest price I've seen hereabouts was $2600. No duty but likely GST-PST-HST would be due. This deal gets more attractive the better the CDN dollar gets. Hope it is still around next month when I have the cash to pull the trigger.
jbarns
Mar 17th, 2010, 02:06 PM
I have been digging through the thread a fair bit, and there isn't much mention of the $399 NexGrill from Costco (pretty sure it is in store only so no link). Anyone have any insight on it? Thanks
I've had it for 3 days and going to run it today. I'm very excited about the infrared burner.
I think its made in China and apparently Nexgrill doesn't have the best customer service. The quality seems good though.
definitely a good price compared to others
barrist
Mar 17th, 2010, 02:40 PM
I'm not expecting great deals at this time of the year,
but has anyone seen anything on the Weber Q 300?
Cheapest ive seen is $399 at HD
isitin
Mar 17th, 2010, 06:42 PM
Anyone know how good Weber is with warranty issues for those who purchase a unit in the US and bring it to Canada?
Onward will honour the warranty on the US purchased Webers. It is bad business not to.
isitin
Mar 17th, 2010, 06:49 PM
Sears has the Broil King "Crown 40" on sale for $399 Sat and Sun. Is this a good deal? I'm looking for a decent bbq under $500.
$399 is not a sale price. I have been selling that bbq at that price for years.
isitin
Mar 17th, 2010, 06:55 PM
Thanks again. I've decided on a Broil King. Hoping to get it tonight or tomorrow. Nothing super duper, just the Signet 20.
Signet 20 is a fantastic bbq. You will have no regrets.
wrigley
Mar 17th, 2010, 07:06 PM
did the flyer mention the NG version? It retails for $1049 and if it's $899 I may go for it. Awesome deals on 2008 model Webers in the US (try aimtofind.com) but Weber didn't introduce the sear plate until their 2010 models. And I want my sear plate! :cheesygri
That's a great deal, I would be all over this, but have my mind made up on a Napoleon with an infrared burner. I've had a Weber for over 10 years and would buy another one, but wished they would introduce infrared in their models.
barricuda
Mar 17th, 2010, 09:07 PM
I'm not expecting great deals at this time of the year,
but has anyone seen anything on the Weber Q 300?
Cheapest ive seen is $399 at HD
+1. I am looking to buy this model as well. I am wondering if Sears will have one of those one day sale like April last year (although it was only for the Q 220 model I think)... I am also pondering getting it from HD in the US for USD 329...
cutesnoopydoll
Mar 18th, 2010, 03:33 AM
For weber E-310, what propane tank do you use? 20lbs should be okay?
tylerc
Mar 18th, 2010, 05:29 AM
That's a great deal, I would be all over this, but have my mind made up on a Napoleon with an infrared burner. I've had a Weber for over 10 years and would buy another one, but wished they would introduce infrared in their models.
Don't buy a TR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you're going to buy a Napoleon, go for the real deal. Stay away from the chinese made TR series, make sure you get SS grills, I've spoken with 3 or 4 other people with a TR, and we've all had to replace our grates at least once! I'm due for a second set...
I'm also on my 3rd infrared burner...
I've had other problems as well. Totally regret it.
bofh
Mar 18th, 2010, 05:50 AM
Are there any other BBQ deals in this flyer?
Cuisinart: $499.99, NG:: 549.99
Coleman: $399.99 NG: $449.99
did the flyer mention the NG version? It retails for $1049 and if it's $899 I may go for it. Awesome deals on 2008 model Webers in the US (try aimtofind.com) but Weber didn't introduce the sear plate until their 2010 models. And I want my sear plate! :cheesygri
The propane version is $849 and the NG is $899.99.
delavoie
Mar 18th, 2010, 06:41 AM
Canadian Tire has the regular Bradley Smoker for $100 off in today's flyer.
I'm waiting for the Masterbuilt smoker with window to go on sale.
barrist
Mar 18th, 2010, 07:42 AM
+1. I am looking to buy this model as well. I am wondering if Sears will have one of those one day sale like April last year (although it was only for the Q 220 model I think)... I am also pondering getting it from HD in the US for USD 329...
Yeah i always remember the 220 going on sale, but don't recall the 300s ever going down. thinking i just may as well pick one up now instead of waiting.
toronto_slim
Mar 18th, 2010, 08:16 AM
The propane version is $849 and the NG is $899.99.
Thanks, bofh!
MooG
Mar 18th, 2010, 09:20 AM
I'm looking to pick up a small Broil King for my condo balcony, and am deciding between the Monarch 20 or Crown 10 (NG). They're basically the same price, so any reason why I would choose one over the other? Thanks.
-Aaron
wrigley
Mar 18th, 2010, 09:25 AM
Don't buy a TR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you're going to buy a Napoleon, go for the real deal. Stay away from the chinese made TR series, make sure you get SS grills, I've spoken with 3 or 4 other people with a TR, and we've all had to replace our grates at least once! I'm due for a second set...
I'm also on my 3rd infrared burner...
I've had other problems as well. Totally regret it.
I was looking at the Mirage, it is the same as the Ted Reader, but has Stainless grills. Napoleon is suppose to have an excellent warranty, did you deal with them or Crappy Tire. Also what other problems did you have?
toronto_slim
Mar 18th, 2010, 10:25 AM
Don't buy a TR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you're going to buy a Napoleon, go for the real deal. Stay away from the chinese made TR series, make sure you get SS grills, I've spoken with 3 or 4 other people with a TR, and we've all had to replace our grates at least once! I'm due for a second set...
I'm also on my 3rd infrared burner...
I've had other problems as well. Totally regret it.
Thanks for the advice, but I read through your old thread and I agree with the comment posted by Napoleon Customer Care: "Hi, I have been reading through this thread and I can offer some insight as to how to take care of your porcelain coated cast iron grids and also why Napoleon Customer Care is suggesting that you "cure" the cooking grids. The Ted Reader grills that are carried by Canadian Tire are an extremely high end grill with at an excellent price point. The cast iron grids in these models have a flat black porcelain coating on them. These cast iron grids offer many exceptional cooking benefits and are a near perfect heat conductor, heating evenly and consistently. They also withstand very high temperatures, which makes them perfect for searing. Cured cast iron offers a perfect non-stick surface making it ideal for many dishes where non-stick is a must!
To properly cure a cast iron grid you must first wash them with warm soapy water and rinse thouroughly and dry. Then you should apply a layer of fat all over (typically fats high in saturated fats such as Crisco, palm oil, coconut oil or lard); Then heat up the fat covered grills to a high temperature causing the fat to bond to the iron.
Now, if your cooking grids develop surface rust spots, scour the spots with steel wool, until all traces of the surface rust is gone...then wash, dry and repeat the seasoning process.
A brass wire brush (as mentioned in one of these posts) is the ideal tool to have to brush your cast iron grids. These brushes are readily available at most places that carry bbq accessories.
Napoleon Customer Care is not a misnomer.....they (we) really do care. I am part of the Care Team and we welcome all feedback regarding our products and at the risk of sounding too "hokey" (is that a word?)...we love our customers! We have a generous warranty on all of our products and we honor our warranty, but before we change something that is a great product...we try to inform you on how to take care of the product to prolong it's lifespan.
Thanks for listening and please feel free to contact me!
Regards,
Gail K.
Customer Care Supervisor"
I'm factoring into my decision that the grills will need the same level of care as a cast-iron pan.
sods
Mar 18th, 2010, 10:50 AM
I know nothing about napolean specific grills, but Enamel coated grills =/= Cast Iron. Please do not confused these.
ahsun
Mar 18th, 2010, 10:53 AM
The Onward Manufacturing website clearly states, that Broil King is made in Canada, but does not mention the origin of the other two brands.
Sorry, but where is that on the website? I don't see it.
Yup...the aluminum shell, stand, wheels are most likely canadian...the grate, burner, etc...most likely chinese.:o
Is there proof of this somewhere?
It's not that I'm trying to stand up for the lesser brands from the manufacturer, I just cannot understand where these accusations are coming from. That said, I do want to get an ACCURATE informed decision before I make a purchase.
z613
Mar 18th, 2010, 11:18 AM
Most Canadian Tires in Ottawa have in-store clearance BBq's. I bought a Centro 2900S for $279.99 and am very impressed with it. The sales guy said Weber makes the Centro line, now called Cusineart.
smuPoker
Mar 18th, 2010, 11:42 AM
Most Canadian Tires in Ottawa have in-store clearance BBq's. I bought a Centro 2900S for $279.99 and am very impressed with it. The sales guy said Weber makes the Centro line, now called Cusineart.
So if true, the Cuisinart bbqs are just re-branded Centros. Glad I bought a Broil King instead!
encinc
Mar 18th, 2010, 05:11 PM
OK BBQ deal experts. I need your help.
I'm looking for a good deal on a natural gas BBQ. Don't need anything large fancy, but decent quality is important. Budget is under $500. Looking to buy this weekend if possible. Any suggestions?
calgaryhhr
Mar 18th, 2010, 05:26 PM
TDCanada Trust's MyAXS has a couple bbq's on sale.
Shipping will likely not make these deals any better than in store (but I don't know what the shipping cost is right now.)
Broil King Signet 20 Propane = $399.99
Broil King Signet 20 Nat. Gas = $449.99
Weber Q220 = $249.99
Update: I signed in to check out some of the deals and shipping is over $100 (to Calgary - may be cheaper to other areas) on the Signets which doesn't make for a good deal at all.
weekend camper
Mar 18th, 2010, 05:55 PM
OK BBQ deal experts. I need your help.
I'm looking for a good deal on a natural gas BBQ. Don't need anything large fancy, but decent quality is important. Budget is under $500. Looking to buy this weekend if possible. Any suggestions?
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/cdntire-weber-e310-propane-grill-499-ymmv-862583/4/#post10505225
The Broil King might fit you well?
I got the Weber E-310 NG a few weeks ago and am happy with it, but some would question the quality/value of that unit.
mrk
Mar 18th, 2010, 06:09 PM
I've been looking at the following two BBQs on sears.ca and I'm not sure if I'm stupid, but I can't find an actual model number on the Sears website.
http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309070?ptag=1 which I understand is the Crown 40
http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309060?ptag=1 and this I think is the Crown 10
Assuming I got that right, from what I can tell the only real difference between the 40 and the 10 is some storage space and the side burner? I'm trying to pick out a bbq for my parents, but I can't really decide between these two. Additionally, should I wait for a better price or just bite?
RFDPants
Mar 18th, 2010, 06:32 PM
I've been looking at the following two BBQs on sears.ca and I'm not sure if I'm stupid, but I can't find an actual model number on the Sears website.
http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309070?ptag=1 which I understand is the Crown 40
http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309060?ptag=1 and this I think is the Crown 10
Assuming I got that right, from what I can tell the only real difference between the 40 and the 10 is some storage space and the side burner? I'm trying to pick out a bbq for my parents, but I can't really decide between these two. Additionally, should I wait for a better price or just bite?
Best thing to do is to go to a Sears Home store to check them out in person. Their webiste doesn't give the exact model name but I do belive they are Crowns. I was also told by a salesperson that there would be a sale this Sat & Sun. I also heard that there is a Scratch & Save event this weekend...
also - check out the coupons section for online orders at sears.ca.
encinc
Mar 18th, 2010, 06:39 PM
The Broil King might fit you well?
I got the Weber E-310 NG a few weeks ago and am happy with it, but some would question the quality/value of that unit.
Thanks. I am leaning toward a Broil King. Does anyone know the relative merits of the Signet Series over the Crown Series? It looks like Sears has the Crown Series on sale this weekend (flyer has Crown 10NG for $349 and Crown 40NG for $449 - scratch and save).
smuPoker
Mar 18th, 2010, 08:11 PM
Thanks. I am leaning toward a Broil King. Does anyone know the relative merits of the Signet Series over the Crown Series? It looks like Sears has the Crown Series on sale this weekend (flyer has Crown 10NG for $349 and Crown 40NG for $449 - scratch and save).
http://www.broilkingbbq.com/gasgrills.html
Signets seem to be of higher quality than the Crowns.
billybob501
Mar 18th, 2010, 08:19 PM
I'm also looking for a BBQ. I want a propane model, leaning towards a weber SP320, model #4430301. There is also a 4420301 from what I can tell looks like an updated model of the sp320, with a lower retail price, and enameled hood instead of full stainless hood. Is $550 or so a good price for these? I can take advantage of free shipping to the states.
As for those looking at the Broil King Signet 20, our local home hardware has that for $460.
For my case, I'm thinking that the extra weber warranty and stainless grill and burners will more than make up for the extra $90
Does it Hot?
extradough77
Mar 19th, 2010, 09:05 AM
From the thread, it seems like Napoleon is pretty good.
Does anyone know if they ever go on sale, or is the price pretty much fixed all the time?
Thanks.
weekend camper
Mar 19th, 2010, 11:21 AM
From the thread, it seems like Napoleon is pretty good.
Does anyone know if they ever go on sale, or is the price pretty much fixed all the time?
Thanks.
Canadian Tire has a sale on one of the Napoleon's they carry starting *now*.
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/canadian-tire-flyer-march-19-march-25-a-868004/
extradough77
Mar 19th, 2010, 12:39 PM
Thanks for that CT link. I saw that one earlier, but was looking for the other models.
the Prestige II 450's and above. They seem to be standard price a all dealers, so just wondering if anyone has ever seen them on sale.
Minimini
Mar 19th, 2010, 01:26 PM
Thanks for that CT link. I saw that one earlier, but was looking for the other models.
the Prestige II 450's and above. They seem to be standard price a all dealers, so just wondering if anyone has ever seen them on sale.
I brought Prestige I 450 end of last season. You are right all dealers has the same price, the only thing that you may negotiate is free Napoleon cover ($75) + Ted cook book ($20). I got a free cover + charcoal tray due to end of season sale. I hope it can be help.
Last but not least, their customer service is excellent.
encinc
Mar 19th, 2010, 01:47 PM
http://www.broilkingbbq.com/gasgrills.html
Signets seem to be of higher quality than the Crowns.
It looks like the signet and the crown series have different types of burners, but I don't understand what makes one better than the other. I went to my local appliance store that sells BBQs, and they tried to convince me that the biggest difference between the Signet70 that they had on display and a Crown20 is the presence of a rotisserie. Not very helpful to say the least. Doubt I'd get any more help from Sears.
TrueDon
Mar 19th, 2010, 03:34 PM
Canadian Tire has the Master Chef T620 LP on clearance for $199 from $450.
Propane version of 85-3009. Massive 888 sq. in. total cooking surface. Four stainless steel tube burners. 66,000 total BTUs: 54,000 primary BTUs, 12,000 side burner BTUs
http://reviews.canadiantire.ca/9045/0853008P/reviews.htm
Just picked up the propane version (85-3008) of this from the Bay/Dundas location and paid the $10 to have it delivered next week. There was one left in the back as of this morning but I think there might some stock at a couple more stores (not many though). This BBQ might be too low end for most people in this thread but I just need something somewhat inexpensive to last me a couple of years while I fix up the backyard but I was considering that $499 weber a week or so ago. Now I can focus on looking for a decent charcoal BBQ.
tylerc
Mar 19th, 2010, 03:44 PM
Thanks for the advice, but I read through your old thread and I agree with the comment posted by Napoleon Customer Care: "Hi, I have been reading through this thread and I can offer some insight as to how to take care of your porcelain coated cast iron grids and also why Napoleon Customer Care is suggesting that you "cure" the cooking grids. The Ted Reader grills that are carried by Canadian Tire are an extremely high end grill with at an excellent price point. The cast iron grids in these models have a flat black porcelain coating on them. These cast iron grids offer many exceptional cooking benefits and are a near perfect heat conductor, heating evenly and consistently. They also withstand very high temperatures, which makes them perfect for searing. Cured cast iron offers a perfect non-stick surface making it ideal for many dishes where non-stick is a must!
To properly cure a cast iron grid you must first wash them with warm soapy water and rinse thouroughly and dry. Then you should apply a layer of fat all over (typically fats high in saturated fats such as Crisco, palm oil, coconut oil or lard); Then heat up the fat covered grills to a high temperature causing the fat to bond to the iron.
Now, if your cooking grids develop surface rust spots, scour the spots with steel wool, until all traces of the surface rust is gone...then wash, dry and repeat the seasoning process.
A brass wire brush (as mentioned in one of these posts) is the ideal tool to have to brush your cast iron grids. These brushes are readily available at most places that carry bbq accessories.
Napoleon Customer Care is not a misnomer.....they (we) really do care. I am part of the Care Team and we welcome all feedback regarding our products and at the risk of sounding too "hokey" (is that a word?)...we love our customers! We have a generous warranty on all of our products and we honor our warranty, but before we change something that is a great product...we try to inform you on how to take care of the product to prolong it's lifespan.
Thanks for listening and please feel free to contact me!
Regards,
Gail K.
Customer Care Supervisor"
I'm factoring into my decision that the grills will need the same level of care as a cast-iron pan.
I find them to require more care than a cast iron pan. In fact, my President's Choice BBQ's porcelain coated grids lasted 4 years without a spot of rust, no seasoning. The Napoleon ones don't really look coated, and both sets I have had have rusted within a few uses. The current set I'm on have been seasoned 3 times with Lard in the past 4 weeks - that's a lot of work for a grill. I believe the most trouble is the one that sits over the infrared - perhaps hit burns off any seasoning coating that has bonded, as that one tends to rust the quickest.
I've also had one of the sparky things for the rear burner die. I'm in a bit of a debate with Napoleon right now over the inside of the side caps of the lid on the infrared side...the coating is peeling off and they insist it is simply rust build up. I plan to dismantle the lid and take it in to them to lay it to rest. I actually find it insulting that they insist it is grease after I have cleaned it per their instructions and sent them high resolution photos comparing both sides of the grill. I've offered to bring the piece in so they may examine it (maybe I am wrong, but they wont even look at it) as if it is a problem, you would think they would want to know for future QA. I find it odd that the infrared burner is now outside the grill on the new models...maybe there was a problem having it inside.
I still believe Napoleon is a quality product, and their customer care (aside from the latest issue) have been very good. But all the customer care in the world doesn't make up for a 'high end' grill having the number of problems I've had. Stay far far away from the chinese stuff - go for the canadian stuff. Haven't had any issues with my fireplace made by Napoleon in Canada...
BartBandy
Mar 19th, 2010, 04:16 PM
Our Napoleon Prestige II at the cottage has been great over 3 years now. It's a fantastic grill, and the IR burner and stainless steel bar grates are wonderful inventions. I'm no fan of paying over $1000 for a BBQ, but from everything I've seen, I'd rather have the Made In Canada Napoleons than just about any other grill out there. The Weber Summit ((mostly) built in USA) series are very nice as well. I also like the made in Canada Broil Kings. From here, you go up serious coin to get a boutique product from a high end store.
drb789
Mar 19th, 2010, 04:21 PM
From the thread, it seems like Napoleon is pretty good.
Does anyone know if they ever go on sale, or is the price pretty much fixed all the time?
Thanks.
I was at the Napoleon factory just north of Barrie last September - they had half a dozen units of one model they were clearing out at a good price. They were also willing to throw in covers / options on other models.
I can't recall ever seeing anything 'advertised' - but retailers should be able to beat list price.
RFDPants
Mar 19th, 2010, 04:55 PM
It looks like the signet and the crown series have different types of burners, but I don't understand what makes one better than the other. I went to my local appliance store that sells BBQs, and they tried to convince me that the biggest difference between the Signet70 that they had on display and a Crown20 is the presence of a rotisserie. Not very helpful to say the least. Doubt I'd get any more help from Sears.
On Broil Kign's website:
SIGNET 70 (986574 LP / 986577 NG)
• 44,000 BTU stainless steel burner system
• 3 stainless steel Dual-Tube™ burners
• 15,000 BTU stainless steel rear burner
• Premium rotisserie kit
• 635 sq.in. total cooking area
• 400 sq.in. primary cooking area
• Heavy-duty porcelain coated cast iron cooking grids
• Stainless steel Flav-R-Wave™ cooking system
• Linear Flow™ infinitely adjustable burner valves
• Deluxe Accu-temp™ thermometer
• Sure-Lite™ electronic ignition system
• Therma-Cast™ aluminum oven
• Deluxe Perma-Mold™ drop-down sides shelves
CROWN 20 (94924 LP / 94927 NG)
• 44,000 BTU stainless steel burner system
• Stainless steel Super 8™ infinity burner
• 635 sq.in. total cooking area
• 400 sq.in. primary cooking area
• Heavy-duty porcelain coated cast iron cooking grids
• Stainless steel Flav-R-Wave™ cooking system
• Linear Flow™ infinitely adjustable burner valves
• Deluxe Accu-temp™ thermometer
• Sure-Lite™ electronic ignition system
• Therma-Cast™ aluminum oven
• Perma-Mold™ drop-down sides shelves
From what I have read elsewhere - the Super-Infinity 8 burners are better than the cheaper Dual-tubes
shoppingkart
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:36 PM
Do you have a link to those reviews or do you recall why the Super-Infinity 8 burners are better than the 3 Dual-tube burners? Thanks
harrybuckman
Mar 19th, 2010, 08:25 PM
Anyone in the market for a bbq should check these out, they are Colemans Even-heats. They are a new model for this year and they were moving pretty quick at the local CT build quality is very, very good.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444331 6393&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672580&bmUID=1269047650197
jon-calgary
Mar 19th, 2010, 08:53 PM
TDCanada Trust's MyAXS has a couple bbq's on sale.
Shipping will likely not make these deals any better than in store (but I don't know what the shipping cost is right now.)
Weber Q220 = $249.99
Update: I signed in to check out some of the deals and shipping is over $100 (to Calgary - may be cheaper to other areas) on the Signets which doesn't make for a good deal at all.
It's FREE SHIPPING now. I think I should order.
Does anybody know, How low does this model priced on the previous years?
Thanks!
Found it: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/1-day-sears-ca-weberq220-portable-propane-gas-grill-184-99-30-off-25-coupon-722426/ Then I better just wait then. But I need a BBQ this Sun. :(
RFDPants
Mar 19th, 2010, 09:05 PM
Do you have a link to those reviews or do you recall why the Super-Infinity 8 burners are better than the 3 Dual-tube burners? Thanks
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?webtag=ab-bbq&nav=messages&lgnF=y&msg=2680.1
isitin
Mar 19th, 2010, 10:20 PM
did the flyer mention the NG version? It retails for $1049 and if it's $899 I may go for it. Awesome deals on 2008 model Webers in the US (try aimtofind.com) but Weber didn't introduce the sear plate until their 2010 models. And I want my sear plate! :cheesygri
The Weber Sear Station came out on the S-470 & S-670 in 2009.
isitin
Mar 19th, 2010, 10:29 PM
Sorry, but where is that on the website? I don't see it.
Is there proof of this somewhere?
It's not that I'm trying to stand up for the lesser brands from the manufacturer, I just cannot understand where these accusations are coming from. That said, I do want to get an ACCURATE informed decision before I make a purchase.
The lid & lower box is made in the USA. All of the steel frame & & stainless are fabricated in the Kitchener-Waterloo plant. The grates are Chinese. Knobs, wheels, ignitor, stuff like that are made in China. Everything else is Canadian.
isitin
Mar 19th, 2010, 10:31 PM
I've been looking at the following two BBQs on sears.ca and I'm not sure if I'm stupid, but I can't find an actual model number on the Sears website.
http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309070?ptag=1 which I understand is the Crown 40
http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309060?ptag=1 and this I think is the Crown 10
Assuming I got that right, from what I can tell the only real difference between the 40 and the 10 is some storage space and the side burner? I'm trying to pick out a bbq for my parents, but I can't really decide between these two. Additionally, should I wait for a better price or just bite?
The cooking grids are better on a Crown 40.
isitin
Mar 19th, 2010, 10:41 PM
Anyone in the market for a bbq should check these out, they are Colemans Even-heats. They are a new model for this year and they were moving pretty quick at the local CT build quality is very, very good.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444331 6393&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672580&bmUID=1269047650197
The thing is are you gonna be able to find parts for this bbq in a couple of years???. I doubt it.
shoppingkart
Mar 19th, 2010, 11:10 PM
Sorry, but where is that on the website? I don't see it.
Is there proof of this somewhere?
It's not that I'm trying to stand up for the lesser brands from the manufacturer, I just cannot understand where these accusations are coming from. That said, I do want to get an ACCURATE informed decision before I make a purchase.
Well, I just found this information. They only design and engineer products in China
http://www.omcbbq.com/_omc/corporate_history.html
http://www.citt.gc.ca/Safeguar/marinq/decision/cs2f01a_e.asp
Nutella
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:27 AM
Well, I just found this information. They only design and engineer products in China
http://www.omcbbq.com/_omc/corporate_history.html
In Zuhai, China, the company maintains offices performing design, engineering, quality assurance and procurement functions.
Doesnt sound good to me. Never heard of designing/engineering in China but mfg in Canada! that's backwards to the globalization theory isnt it!
barrist
Mar 20th, 2010, 11:07 AM
Weber Q300 (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909217&Ntt=909217&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber&eid=********&utm_source=********&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=909217) vs Porta Chef Pro (http://www.johnstones.com/barbecues/broil-king/porta-chef-4.html) vs Napoleon Freestyle (http://www.napoleongrills.com/Gourmet-grills/Freestyle/Freestyle.html)
What's your pick?
barricuda
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:06 PM
Weber Q300 (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909217&Ntt=909217&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber&eid=********&utm_source=********&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=909217) vs Porta Chef Pro (http://www.johnstones.com/barbecues/broil-king/porta-chef-4.html) vs Napoleon Freestyle (http://www.napoleongrills.com/Gourmet-grills/Freestyle/Freestyle.html)
What's your pick?
I am totally sold on the Weber Q300's reviews of even heating and reliability. Just wondering if there will be any special deals on this model or should I just pick it up from across the border. The Q220 might come on sale at Sears in April (based on last year), but then buying the stationary cart (which I like) separately will bring the total cost over $300 anyways. So just looking for the Q300 now for $330 or less....
Aggy
Mar 20th, 2010, 01:57 PM
Could you PM at Sears with the HD price and hope to get the scratch and save for $60 which would bring it to $330 (if my math is right and you can apply both the PM and the scratch?).
I am totally sold on the Weber Q300's reviews of even heating and reliability. Just wondering if there will be any special deals on this model or should I just pick it up from across the border. The Q220 might come on sale at Sears in April (based on last year), but then buying the stationary cart (which I like) separately will bring the total cost over $300 anyways. So just looking for the Q300 now for $330 or less....
barricuda
Mar 20th, 2010, 03:42 PM
Could you PM at Sears with the HD price and hope to get the scratch and save for $60 which would bring it to $330 (if my math is right and you can apply both the PM and the scratch?).
Have no idea what the scratch and save is (not following RFD as much as I should be I guess :)).... Will look that up and see if I could get the 60$ off.... thanks for the info....
diehardfan
Mar 20th, 2010, 04:06 PM
The cooking grids are better on a Crown 40.
isitin, it seem like you sell Broil King BBQ's. What is your take on Super 8 burners VS Dual Tube burners?
I am on the fence on either the Crown or Signet series.
Aggy
Mar 20th, 2010, 04:46 PM
Scratch and save is $20, $40, $60, $80 or $100 off depending on the card you scratch.
Have no idea what the scratch and save is (not following RFD as much as I should be I guess :)).... Will look that up and see if I could get the 60$ off.... thanks for the info....
da_hool
Mar 20th, 2010, 05:08 PM
I am totally sold on the Weber Q300's reviews of even heating and reliability. Just wondering if there will be any special deals on this model or should I just pick it up from across the border. The Q220 might come on sale at Sears in April (based on last year), but then buying the stationary cart (which I like) separately will bring the total cost over $300 anyways. So just looking for the Q300 now for $330 or less....
I can't wait to bust out the Weber Q 300! Bought it when it was 20% off at Home Depot last year, $319. I reckon it will go on sale for around the same this year too.
RFDPants
Mar 20th, 2010, 05:12 PM
Scratch and save is $20, $40, $60, $80 or $100 off depending on the card you scratch.
Odds are you will get the $20 off (90% chance). But if you get there Sunday morning - first 100 people get a $10 off of $50+ coupon. For those who have recently acquired the MBA Smart Cash MC CC - buy a bunch of $100 Sears GCs at your local supermarket. You'll get 5% back if you haven't exceeded your bonus limit (see other thread on Personal Finance forum). So for the Broil King Crown 90 (regular price $549.99 - sale price of $499.99 - you could potentially pay $469.99 after $20 & $10 off and then receive another $25 back 9assuming you buy 5x $100 GCs). Total savings almost $100 off the regular price.
themackdad
Mar 20th, 2010, 07:01 PM
So I went to Sears today and bought the Broil-King Crown 90 for 499. I assume its the Crown 90...its just the one they have listed for 549 on their webpage. I also scratched an 80 dollar off card! Whoop whoop.
Anyways I was just wondering if that is a good deal? It came to 475 after tax. Is it worth keeping or should I spend the extra and get a Signet from Kent? Thanks for any input.
barricuda
Mar 21st, 2010, 12:27 AM
Scratch and save is $20, $40, $60, $80 or $100 off depending on the card you scratch.
Thanks...
I can't wait to bust out the Weber Q 300! Bought it when it was 20% off at Home Depot last year, $319. I reckon it will go on sale for around the same this year too.
Wow... did not see any threads here with that info.... which month did it go on sale?
Vancouvergroover
Mar 21st, 2010, 02:08 PM
Hi Folks, This is my first post. I've been a long time RFD lurker/leecher and haven't had much of value to add. I have been doing a lot of BBQ research lately and thought I'd share what I have learned.
My brief BBQ story is this: For years I had a Weber Genesis Silver 3 burner (no side burner) BBQ. All in all it was great. I replaced parts from time to time as they wore out but never thought they had worn out prematurely. My two beefs with the Weber were (a) no side burner and (b) the front to back layout of the tube burners. The layout was bothersome for me because I frequently cook a side of fish (planked on cedar). The only way to get effective indirect heat was to turn off the middle burner and keep the front and back on. The problem was that there wasn't enough width in the middle of the grill to put a piece of fish without the fish overlapping the front or back burners. Three burners side to side would be a better arrangement for me. I also kind of wanted a side burner because I like to cook everything I can outside. So, after years of kicking tires, I thought I'd found my dream BBQ.
It was a big stainless unit made by Nexgrill sold at Costco under the Kirkland brand. It had all the bells and whistles including an OVEN, a sear burner, 4 tube burners, side burner etc. Funny thing was that the big box proudly said "Made in USA", which is a big plus for me. I later found a sticker on the inside of the door saying it was made in China??
I gave the weber to a relative and dropped $1100 on the Kirkland and thought I'd have a BBQ for life. Well the first year was pretty good. The bells and whistles were very nice (Baked Potatoes in the oven while grilling steaks). The only problem was that it took a LOT of time/effort to get hot. I should mention that I'm on Propane). I would have to crank all the burners on full for 1/2 hour to get the thing hot enough to sear. I ended up using the searing burner frequently to get a good sear on.
Then year two rolled around. During my spring cleaning, I noticed that the big stainless plate at the bottom of the burner box was cracked. This piece appears to serve two functions: to distribute those drippings that make it past the heat distribution plates into the dripping drawer and to reflect some of the burner heat up from below. This was after one season of use. I called Nexgrill and determined that this part could not be replaced. I decided to carry on as I had good experience with Costco's return policy and figured I could live with the cracked plate but if other problems arose, I would consider taking it back.
Now i'm just short of two years of ownership and one of the "5 year warranty" burner tubes has rusted/burned through. Replaceable and probably under warranty but a hassle. So I went to Costco to verify I could bring it back for a full refund and they said yes. That has got me shopping and likely asking some of the questions I should have asked before I bought the Kirkland.
Here is what I have learned from a great deal of in-store and online research:
Stainless steel only makes sense for Aesthetic (looks) and in the event the unit will live in a marine environment (on a boat, at the beach). What I am referring to here is what is known as the "castings" - the bottom tray/shell that houses the burners, heat diffusers, and grill surfaces and the hinged top. Until you get into the very big $ DCS/LYNX type units, the stainless steel castings on most "stainless steel" BBQs are not insulated (double wall). The thermal properties of Stainless steel is very different from Aluminum. In an uninsulated stainless BBQ, much of the heat from the burners goes right through the stainless steel and into the environment.
Aluminum, particularly cast aluminum is a far better material to make BBQ castings until you get to the very high end. The downside of aluminum is that it tends to look chalky after a few years. And lets' be honest, it looks cheaper and way less sexy. But it is a far better material.
Back to my Weber. Webers have cast aluminum bottom castings. This aluminum shell is often wrapped up in some prettier metal but its still there. The heart and soul of a Weber. Weber lids are typically aluminum ends with painted steel (lower end) or stainless steel (higher end) over the burners.
Vermont castings are - you guessed it - cast aluminum and VERY thick.
The OMC line - Broil King/Broil Mate (Sterling and Fiesta I thinks as well) are cast aluminum. They might not look great, but they should perform much like a Weber.
One note on grill surfaces - HEAVY is better. Cast Iron is almost always porcelain coated. Thinner coatings look almost grey (Broil King/ Broil Mate). Thicker coatings look black and glossy - Vermont Castings. Until you get into the very high end, you will likely get better searing performance and even heat with a cast iron grill surface than with stainless steel but you will have to work a little harder to keep it clean and in good condition.
Weber has some VERY thick stainless grill surfaces on their $1000+ units which would probably work very well. I think Broil King offers this as an option. If you want to see how it should be done when $ is no object, check out the CAST steel grills on the high end DCS grills. These cast grill surfaces weigh almost as much as entire $200 BBQ's from Canadian Tire/WalMart.
You might think I'm going back to a Weber after all this but so far I'm not. I've decided after spending $1000+ on a fancy grill and getting worse performance than I got from a $500 (back in the day) Weber, I'm going to save my $ to spend somewhere where I will get more gratification for my hard earned $.
My current pick is the Broil King Signet 20 which I can get at a local dealer for $400. Its about the size of my old weber, has the three side by side burner layout and should cook as well as my old Weber.
For those who have questioned the debate between the Broil King Infinity 8 burner v the newer Dual Tubes on the signet, It really comes down to zone heating for me. I had a BK with an infinity way back when and it was excellent at heat distribution. The only thing with the infinity is that you only have two zones - left and right. I prefer the flexibility of 3 zones (Left/Center/Right). The Signet also has some sort of baffle (Flav-R Zone heat partitions) that are supposed to keep the three zones somewhat distinct. I'm not counting on this feature working any better than others but three different burners gives more flexibility. If you're the kind of person that grills by turning all the burners on full and filling the grill, the Infinity would be fine and I am guessing it has better heat distribution throughout the entire grill surface than the newer tubes.
For $500 I could get a Weber spirit but it is really a step down from the old Genesis - the grill surface is flimsy and it is small. I don't see it as competitive with the OMC products. If I wanted to step up to $1000 I could get a "real" Weber in the genesis series but it still has the unfortunate burner layout and doesn't have the high end thick stainless grills.
To get a Weber that would cook as well as the Broil King for me, I would have to step up to the Summit series which is around $1800 and more than I want to spend.
I have not inspected the Napolean grills. A saw a few in CT that were quite expensive. They looked like they had the "right stuff" but they cost so much more than competitive OMC grills for the same size/output that I wasn't too interested.
If I wanted to spend in the range of $1000, I'd have a hard time choosing between Weber and Vermont Castings. I think I'd give the edge to Vermont Castings as they have really robust castings and grills.
Please note that my primary focus is on price/performance. I'm the first to admit that the stainless grills look way cooler. The problem is that they are literally cooler. I also put a certain amount of value on buying "Made in Canada" (or North America for that matter). Too bad Costco tricked me about that last time.
If you are thinking stainless, please keep in mind that unless the lid is insulated, no matter the gauge of the steel, it will get discoloured once it gets really hot. Painted steel lids will look better for longer (my old Weber was an ugly reddish brown which NEVER changed colour).
My last piece of advice is to take what you can learn, find a BBQ retailer that knows MORE than you (this will be hard to find) and listen to their advice. In Vancouver, I have found Johnstones BBQ in North Vancouver to be excellent. I have no affiliation with them at all and have never bought from them but of all the BBQ stores I've been to in the GVRD, Johnstones had the most knowledgeable staff IMHO. The people in the hardware stores seem to know a lot about hardware - 'nuff said.
RFD has been a great resource for me. I hope this post will help some of you choose a good BBQ.
I'm planning on pulling the trigger in the next few weeks, as soon as I can convince a friend with a truck to help me get the Kirkland back to Costco. I'll let you know what I ended up with and how its working.
Finally, if anyone from DCS/Lynx/FireMagic/Alfresco etc. wants to give me a grill to try out for a season or two, I would be more than happy to oblige.
Happy Grilling Season!
drb789
Mar 21st, 2010, 03:03 PM
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billybob501
Mar 21st, 2010, 03:46 PM
Just bought a Weber SP-320 model from appliancesconnection.com . It seems to have the stainless flavorizer bars and grill that the high level genesis models have, but this is smaller and thus smaller btu burners. It does have the better grade stainless steel and a side burner. In the end it is $565 US shipped to a US address. I hope my credit card is processed and if it is that it arrives sans shipping damage. Once my bbq is shipped and I pick it up I'll feel happier about it.
If not, I think my only other option for this grill as its discontinued is rainbow appliances.com. I'm really hesitant to order from them as their customer service reviews are below average. Their price is about the same as above though. Amazon.com also has the same grill, but about $70 more. Failing the success of ordering I may just wait it out for a sale may long or check out the local sears or homehardware for a broil king.
curls00
Mar 21st, 2010, 04:35 PM
<snip>
Thanks for the great advice. I was considering a Nexgrill for $399 from Costco but until your post was marginally still considering it. Now, I am not considering it at all. I have my eye on another OMC product to replace my aging (but still perfectly functioning) Sterling grill. It's been great, but is too small for my family and definitely too small for any kind of outdoor backyard party we want to host.
The one we are looking at is the Broil-Mate #738989 seen here (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909224&Ntt=909224&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=112996%204294966832&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber). It has the very heavy, shiny black coated cast iron grills, double-walled stainless hood, cast casing, etc. Seems pretty solid and the features look great. I would get good use of the rotisserie and the side burner. What do you think of this grill compared to the Signet 90 from Rona for the same price? Aside from the size (Broil King is smaller than the same-priced Broil-Mate), what are the key differences? The cast aluminum hood?
Thanks.
Eric
tylerc
Mar 21st, 2010, 06:50 PM
Minutes ago my 3rd Napoleon sizzle zone on the original Ted Reader 605 broke...In less than 2 years I am moving on to my 4th...
I have a feeling there is a problem with the fact they are inside the lid (maybe too much heat), and now they place them as a side burner. What a %*$& joke this grill has been.
Vancouvergroover
Mar 21st, 2010, 07:33 PM
Thanks for the great advice. I was considering a Nexgrill for $399 from Costco but until your post was marginally still considering it. Now, I am not considering it at all. I have my eye on another OMC product to replace my aging (but still perfectly functioning) Sterling grill. It's been great, but is too small for my family and definitely too small for any kind of outdoor backyard party we want to host.
The one we are looking at is the Broil-Mate #738989 seen here (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909224&Ntt=909224&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=112996%204294966832&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber). It has the very heavy, shiny black coated cast iron grills, double-walled stainless hood, cast casing, etc. Seems pretty solid and the features look great. I would get good use of the rotisserie and the side burner. What do you think of this grill compared to the Signet 90 from Rona for the same price? Aside from the size (Broil King is smaller than the same-priced Broil-Mate), what are the key differences? The cast aluminum hood?
Thanks.
Eric
That Broil Mate at HD looks nice, but I wouldn't count on it to perform well. In my long post above, I was suggesting the benefits of some of the OMC line but they have quite a few products that seem to be made to the big box stores that are not much better than the other similar products that probably came off the same assembly line in China.
That particular BBQ is made of pressed steel and made in China. The grill grates are nice as are the burner tubes. The body of the BBQ will likely perform no better than a Nexgrill/Blue Ember/Amana/Coleman/Masterchef etc.
The OMC grills I am impressed with are the old fashioned looking cast aluminum shells. Broil Mate / King has tarted some of them up a bit with a stainless insert in the cover but they are otherwise very similar to the Broil Mate / King units from 10-15 years ago and they work. The bottom and top of these grills are heavy duty cast Aluminnum. I tend to think the bottom is more important than the top.
HD had a pretty good basic Broil Mate for for $300 that looks pretty good (H burner, similar to infinity 8 but not quite as good).
If you want to do a little tire kicking, go into a store, take the grates off and the heat distributors and see what the "firebox" is made of. I have yet to see a Chinese made BBQ at any price that is not made of thin pressed steel (sometimes stainless).
Take the guts out a Weber / Broil King / Vermont Castings (likely Napolean) and you will see that these BBQ's are heavy duty and solid down where all the heat is generated.
Sorry to be a downer. I would love to get all those nice features for $550 but if it won't do the one thing you need it to do well, I'd rather spend less and get more.
Good luck.
Thimble
Mar 21st, 2010, 08:37 PM
<snip>
Great post! I am a big fan of cast iron. I frequently use my cast iron pan to cook steaks, and I am always happy with the results. More cooking surface = more carmelization. And heavier thicker = better, imho.
My big thing is that I can leave the grease on my grill and scrape it off at the beginning of each barbecue. I had a lot of success with an old weber. The switch to stainless steel was very unsatisfactory.
isitin
Mar 21st, 2010, 11:37 PM
That Broil Mate at HD looks nice, but I wouldn't count on it to perform well. In my long post above, I was suggesting the benefits of some of the OMC line but they have quite a few products that seem to be made to the big box stores that are not much better than the other similar products that probably came off the same assembly line in China.
That particular BBQ is made of pressed steel and made in China. The grill grates are nice as are the burner tubes. The body of the BBQ will likely perform no better than a Nexgrill/Blue Ember/Amana/Coleman/Masterchef etc.
The OMC grills I am impressed with are the old fashioned looking cast aluminum shells. Broil Mate / King has tarted some of them up a bit with a stainless insert in the cover but they are otherwise very similar to the Broil Mate / King units from 10-15 years ago and they work. The bottom and top of these grills are heavy duty cast Aluminnum. I tend to think the bottom is more important than the top.
HD had a pretty good basic Broil Mate for for $300 that looks pretty good (H burner, similar to infinity 8 but not quite as good).
If you want to do a little tire kicking, go into a store, take the grates off and the heat distributors and see what the "firebox" is made of. I have yet to see a Chinese made BBQ at any price that is not made of thin pressed steel (sometimes stainless).
Take the guts out a Weber / Broil King / Vermont Castings (likely Napolean) and you will see that these BBQ's are heavy duty and solid down where all the heat is generated.
Sorry to be a downer. I would love to get all those nice features for $550 but if it won't do the one thing you need it to do well, I'd rather spend less and get more.
Good luck.
You definitely are in the bbq business. As I am in the business & just found out that the Broil-Mates at HD are Made In China. Also Vermont Casting is giving up the ship after this year. So if you want a horrible Made in China VC than go ahead. But if you want a quality Q buy a Broil King or Weber. And from your previous post yes Weber Genesis has the 9.5mm solid thick stainless steel cooking grids, not just the Summit's. You can only get the at a CBE dealer.
http://www.certifiedbbqexperts.com/
DTOM
Mar 22nd, 2010, 12:25 AM
The cooking grids are better on a Crown 40.
In what way are the cooking grids better? I'm also trying to decide between the Crown 10 and the Crown 40.
Are both cabinets completely enclosed?
Thanks.
isitin
Mar 22nd, 2010, 12:38 AM
In what way are the cooking grids better? I'm also trying to decide between the Crown 10 and the Crown 40.
Are both cabinets completely enclosed?
Thanks.
The cabinet is not fully enclosed on a Crown 10 but enclosed on a 40. Also the cast grids on the 10 are a glossy porcelain coating over cast iron & are prone to chip easily. The grids on a 40 have a matte porcelain finish and are harder to damage. You will need to season your grids all the time to keep them in good shape. But if you do this they will last for you.
:D
curls00
Mar 22nd, 2010, 08:22 AM
After comparing the B-King Signet 90 ($550 @ Rona) to the B-Mate 738989 LP ($550 @ HD), the main differences I can see are:
- BKing is cast aluminum oven, BMate is double-walled stainless (supposedly insulated).
- BKing is smaller - 400sq-in main cooking area vs 625 on the BMate. I could use the larger space for backyard parties, but is 400 sq-in really large enough for say 8 large hamburgers, PLUS veggies, etc...? It doesn't seem so.
That was about all I could see between them that was different. They use the exact same rear rotisserie burner and rotisserie apparatus (and motor), the exact same 5-year warranty stainless dual-tube burners, the same or very similar cast iron cooking grids, and the Broil-Mate actually has more storage including a shelf underneath the unit itself.
Anything else I should be concerned with or looking into between these two?
wrigley
Mar 22nd, 2010, 09:13 AM
Shopping around for a Napoleon, they are like Apple, where the manufacture sets the prices. Anyone know of a store that has good prices?
sergers
Mar 22nd, 2010, 09:26 AM
im still loving my broilking signet 70 from rona from summer 2009.
i leave it out in the rain sometimes... i know i shouldnt, but its great.
heats up very fast from being out in the cold. i was cooking out lastnight at 12am after it rained.
the biggest factor for me, since the specs of the broilmate caught up, is Broil king are (atleast was when i bought it) made in canada... not in china like broilmate.
nounou23
Mar 22nd, 2010, 09:32 AM
Any comment on this Broil King from Sears?
CROWN 40 94944 LP
50$ off and there seem to be a 35$ off / 350$ coupon out there
http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309070?ptag=1
barrist
Mar 22nd, 2010, 09:53 AM
Weber Q300 (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909217&Ntt=909217&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber&eid=********&utm_source=********&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=909217) vs Porta Chef Pro (http://www.johnstones.com/barbecues/broil-king/porta-chef-4.html) vs Napoleon Freestyle (http://www.napoleongrills.com/Gourmet-grills/Freestyle/Freestyle.html)
What's your pick?
I'm leaning towards the Napoleon.(the link shows Infrared at the top, but its not on the model im looking at, just a normal burner)
Anyone else?
67mike
Mar 22nd, 2010, 09:55 AM
I am going to give a shout out to the great value in BBQ offered by:
Sears.ca has the Broil King Crown 10 for $299.00 ($100 off) then you can use the $20.00 off cupon here and get a GREAT BBQ for $279.00!
Show me a better value, and I'll eat it!:D
67mike
Mar 22nd, 2010, 09:56 AM
Any comment on this Broil King from Sears?
CROWN 40 94944 LP
50$ off and there seem to be a 35$ off / 350$ coupon out there
http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309070?ptag=1
If you do NOT need the side burner......go with the Crown 10 from sears.ca which is $299.00 on sale...plus use the $20.00 off cupon....$279.00 for a KILLER BBQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
look30
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:00 AM
Weber Q300 (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909217&Ntt=909217&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber&eid=********&utm_source=********&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=909217) vs Porta Chef Pro (http://www.johnstones.com/barbecues/broil-king/porta-chef-4.html) vs Napoleon Freestyle (http://www.napoleongrills.com/Gourmet-grills/Freestyle/Freestyle.html)
What's your pick?
I like this one better when looking for portables:
Napoleon TravelQ
http://www.napoleongrills.com/Gourmet-grills/Freestyle/GoGrill.html
Frostie
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:08 AM
I don't know if they are still available, but OMC Multicorp Sterling BBQ's are by far the best made and best cooking BBQ's that have ever been made. I have one that is 7 years old and all I do is change the lava rocks and keep the grill clean and it keeps cooking to perfection. The heat in this BBQ is so nice and even, no hot spots so you never get flare ups. My inlaws also have the same BBQ, but larger and 4 years older and it is still in very good shape.
pbillone
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:09 AM
So I've been a RFD lurker for a long time and have certainly learned a lot from all of you, but this is my first post.
I'm in the market for a natural gas BBQ. I own a condo but the patio is pretty wide, so anything under 65" wide is ok. I'm torn between getting something in the mid-low-range (I especially like the BK Signet 20) or something in the sub-$300 area. Normally, I wouldn't even consider the cheapos based on features, quality, etc. but realistically I don't need this to last for any longer than 3 years. That being said, I want something that will cook evenly and not be fussy. I BBQ about 4 times a week, a variety of things, but especially want decent heat output for searing steaks and the like.
I recently saw that HD has the Fiesta SG 44552 available for $300 in the NG model. Since they don't carry it in-store, does anyone have any opinions on it? I can't find what type of casting the oven is, but it claims to have 3 SS tube burners, enameled cast-iron gril/griddle (reversible??), and SS heat distributers. I saw some discussion regarding this unit in the earlier pages of the post, but nothing really regarding the quality.
Is this a good option, are there any other units around that price that offer similar/better features (recalling that 2-3 years of good performance is more desirable than a mediocre unit that will last 5+ years or even 5+ years of good performance with a significant price increase), or is the BK Signet 20 the best option, despite being about $150 more than the Fiesta? Your help and expertise is much appreciated!
67mike
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:20 AM
I don't know if they are still available, but OMC Multicorp Sterling BBQ's are by far the best made and best cooking BBQ's that have ever been made. I have one that is 7 years old and all I do is change the lava rocks and keep the grill clean and it keeps cooking to perfection. The heat in this BBQ is so nice and even, no hot spots so you never get flare ups. My inlaws also have the same BBQ, but larger and 4 years older and it is still in very good shape.
Not sure if you realize this, but Sterling is a cheaper line of Broil King that is specifically made for Home Hardware, to their specs. I believe that the burner, grates, and flavorizer are all a cheaper quality than Broil King, and I think these parts are chinese instead of Canadian.
Not saying they aren't good, or don't cook well.
bhatch
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:20 AM
I know this is not really something you can compare directly but I picked up a demo SOVEREIGN SERIES Broil King from RONA at the end of last year (august) for 250$.
if you going to spend the money on BBQ that is over 200 bucks might as well get it for 70% off at the end of the year.
67mike
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:22 AM
I know this is not really something you can compare directly but I picked up a demo SOVEREIGN SERIES Broil King from RONA at the end of last year (august) for 250$.
if you going to spend the money on BBQ that is over 200 bucks might as well get it for 70% off at the end of the year.
Well, 3 problems with your statement:
1) I needed a BBQ now, not 8 months from now.
2) I do not have a Rona withing 500 miles.
3) You got VERY, VERY lucky to get the ONE BBQ that had a freakishly good price.
So, I am very jealous of you, enjoy your BBQ.:D
jbarns
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:27 AM
Any comment on this Broil King from Sears?
CROWN 40 94944 LP
50$ off and there seem to be a 35$ off / 350$ coupon out there
http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309070?ptag=1
i bought that nexgrill from costco but I think I'm going to return it. I bought it just in case it was good and I didn't want to miss out.
I think I will pick up that Crown 40 from sears, looks like the best buy for my budget. It has nothing fancy but should be a work horse for years.
This thread may have saved my bbqing life:)
67mike
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:38 AM
i bought that nexgrill from costco but I think I'm going to return it. I bought it just in case it was good and I didn't want to miss out.
I think I will pick up that Crown 40 from sears, looks like the best buy for my budget. It has nothing fancy but should be a work horse for years.
This thread may have saved my bbqing life:)
If you do not need a sideburner......the Crown 10 from Sears.ca is MUCH better value.;)
ViperZ
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:39 AM
There is a Fiesta BBQ factory in Brampton, ON. Lucky us, they have a small store for 'last year' models and 'scratch and dent', which are super-cheap. My parents picked up a brand new fully loaded 'scratch and dent' for less than 1/2 of the retail price. No scratches and no dents, lol.
Kry_sta
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:39 AM
How do you get the extra $20 off?
jbarns
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:45 AM
I was going to go with the 40 because of this post. Now that I think of it I don't know if its that much better or not
The cabinet is not fully enclosed on a Crown 10 but enclosed on a 40. Also the cast grids on the 10 are a glossy porcelain coating over cast iron & are prone to chip easily. The grids on a 40 have a matte porcelain finish and are harder to damage. You will need to season your grids all the time to keep them in good shape. But if you do this they will last for you.
:D
barrist
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:56 AM
I like this one better when looking for portables:
Napoleon TravelQ
http://www.napoleongrills.com/Gourmet-grills/Freestyle/GoGrill.html
I'm looking more for one for my small balcony deck rather than for portability. the Deck is about 6'x6'10, and is going to have a small bistro table with two chairs as well in the corner, so im tryin to maximize space.
67mike
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:57 AM
I was going to go with the 40 because of this post. Now that I think of it I don't know if its that much better or not
The crown 10 has the pedestal mount...rather than the 2 doors.
The grates on the crown 10 have a heavy porcelin coating....look like they would be better at fighting corrosion over the standard iron grates (which I have used for 15+ years). Also they are flat, not stepped like the other cast iron grates....so my plan is to swap over to the stainless steel rod grates eventually.
The price of $279....is a very attractive price.:D
petah
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:58 AM
im still loving my broilking signet 70 from rona from summer 2009.
i leave it out in the rain sometimes... i know i shouldnt, but its great.
heats up very fast from being out in the cold. i was cooking out lastnight at 12am after it rained.
the biggest factor for me, since the specs of the broilmate caught up, is Broil king are (atleast was when i bought it) made in canada... not in china like broilmate.
I am looking at a Signet 70 as well and will be buying it soon, can't wait!
jed
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:03 AM
Awesome deal - Thanks OP! I have one thats about 15yrs old now - I've replaced the burner once. Would definitely buy one of these again if I needed one, but mine is still working great.
WalmartMartyr
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:13 AM
A link would be good, I cannot find it on the sears.ca site.
MS MSP
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:15 AM
A link would be good, I cannot find it on the sears.ca site.
Neither can I.
Also, no need for a separate thread when you have already posted it in the BBQ deals thread here:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/bbq-deals-thread-721171/
kool1
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:17 AM
I am going to give a shout out to the great value in BBQ offered by:
Sears.ca has the Broil King Crown 10 for $299.00 ($100 off) then you can use the $20.00 off cupon here and get a GREAT BBQ for $279.00!
Show me a better value, and I'll eat it!:D
Good deal for sure. Is this in the flyer this week?
Broil Kings are good BBQs. We had our last one for over 10 years and sold it working for $30.
shoppingkart
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:18 AM
Link
http://www.sears.ca/catalog/broil-king/1700137-100000271
bf_ns
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:20 AM
Not sure if you realize this, but Sterling is a cheaper line of Broil King that is specifically made for Home Hardware, to their specs. I believe that the burner, grates, and flavorizer are all a cheaper quality than Broil King, and I think these parts are chinese instead of Canadian.
Not saying they aren't good, or don't cook well.
Actually Sterling is sold at other places like Kent too, not exclusive to HH. had mine for 8 years just replaced the burner and grates last season. much cheaper to buy the parts from sterling direct btw.
opilion
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:22 AM
Do you mean this one: http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309060?ptag=1
Save $50 until July 4, 2010 - Looks like $50 off - not $100
Where is the $20 coupon?
JWL
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:22 AM
I am going to give a shout out to the great value in BBQ offered by:
Sears.ca has the Broil King Crown 10 for $299.00 ($100 off) then you can use the $20.00 off cupon here and get a GREAT BBQ for $279.00!
Show me a better value, and I'll eat it!:D
I like the enthusiasm!
But could you put the deal details in the title instead of a "teaser" title? And maybe add a link to your post?
rinse
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:24 AM
It says save $50 not $100
DealRacer
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:47 AM
Love both my Broil King BBQ's. Even my little one (don't remember the model) but nice simple two burner model at the cottage is awesome for heat & results.
amd9394
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:54 AM
I'm also looking at the same model you are looking at the "Fiesta SG 44552"
i found them on home depot online. I don't know if they are good.
so far, they are the cheapest one for natual gas i found. Anyone has feedback on this brand? "FIESTA"
it said it also comes with 10 ft. Hose w/ Quick connect included.
Thanks
So I've been a RFD lurker for a long time and have certainly learned a lot from all of you, but this is my first post.
I'm in the market for a natural gas BBQ. I own a condo but the patio is pretty wide, so anything under 65" wide is ok. I'm torn between getting something in the mid-low-range (I especially like the BK Signet 20) or something in the sub-$300 area. Normally, I wouldn't even consider the cheapos based on features, quality, etc. but realistically I don't need this to last for any longer than 3 years. That being said, I want something that will cook evenly and not be fussy. I BBQ about 4 times a week, a variety of things, but especially want decent heat output for searing steaks and the like.
I recently saw that HD has the Fiesta SG 44552 available for $300 in the NG model. Since they don't carry it in-store, does anyone have any opinions on it? I can't find what type of casting the oven is, but it claims to have 3 SS tube burners, enameled cast-iron gril/griddle (reversible??), and SS heat distributers. I saw some discussion regarding this unit in the earlier pages of the post, but nothing really regarding the quality.
Is this a good option, are there any other units around that price that offer similar/better features (recalling that 2-3 years of good performance is more desirable than a mediocre unit that will last 5+ years or even 5+ years of good performance with a significant price increase), or is the BK Signet 20 the best option, despite being about $150 more than the Fiesta? Your help and expertise is much appreciated!
whampoa
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:55 AM
I know this is not really something you can compare directly but I picked up a demo SOVEREIGN SERIES Broil King from RONA at the end of last year (august) for 250$.
if you going to spend the money on BBQ that is over 200 bucks might as well get it for 70% off at the end of the year.
:cheesygri:cheesygri:cheesygri
What Sovereign series is that 70 or 90?
I got a BNIB Signet 90 for 339$
amd9394
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:57 AM
I been looking for a while. I think this is the cheapest NG BBQ in the market. I just don't know if this brand is good. Anyone knows about this brand?
thanks
Fiesta
Model: SG44552-750
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=911142&Ntt=911142&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113000&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
dealCker
Mar 22nd, 2010, 12:06 PM
Isn't this something for the BBQ deals thread?
nounou23
Mar 22nd, 2010, 12:12 PM
Someone in an Earlier post had mentioned the Canadian Tire master chef T620 down from 429$ to 199$ since it's last year model.
I found a store that has one for 199$. Is this worthed even with the 1 year warranty on it or should I spend double for something better?
amd9394
Mar 22nd, 2010, 12:40 PM
I just check, it's back on $429...
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/NaturalGasBBQs/PRDOVR~0853009P/Master%252BChef%252BT620%252BSeries%252B4-Burner%252BNatural%252BGas%252BBBQ.jsp
Someone in an Earlier post had mentioned the Canadian Tire master chef T620 down from 429$ to 199$ since it's last year model.
I found a store that has one for 199$. Is this worthed even with the 1 year warranty on it or should I spend double for something better?
curls00
Mar 22nd, 2010, 12:43 PM
:cheesygri:cheesygri:cheesygri
What Sovereign series is that 70 or 90?
I got a BNIB Signet 90 for 339$
Whoa, was that an end-of-season clearance or something recent? And from where?
Another question pertaining specifically to the Signet series of grills: Is the 400 square inch main cooking surface enough for say 6 med-large burgers AND a bunch of veggies in a veggie tray? I am concerned that stepping up from 260 square inches to 400 might not be enough as I can't get more than 3 burgers and the veggie tray on there now (and there's NO room to manouver the burgers, either). Comments?
nounou23
Mar 22nd, 2010, 12:48 PM
I just check, it's back on $429...
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/NaturalGasBBQs/PRDOVR~0853009P/Master%252BChef%252BT620%252BSeries%252B4-Burner%252BNatural%252BGas%252BBBQ.jsp
That's the natural gas version. The propane is 199$ :)
Feegus
Mar 22nd, 2010, 12:51 PM
I think there are some people reading this thread looking for a slightly cheaper, more entry level BBQ deal. Someone I trust has told me I wont be able to find a better $199-ish BBQ than this Broil-Mate from HD
- http://tinyurl.com/yfpc5ls
Any of you "seasoned" BBQ vets have thoughts on this?
tanya2ky
Mar 22nd, 2010, 01:01 PM
I think there are some people reading this thread looking for a slightly cheaper, more entry level BBQ deal. Someone I trust has told me I wont be able to find a better $199-ish BBQ than this Broil-Mate from HD
- http://tinyurl.com/yfpc5ls
Any of you "seasoned" BBQ vets have thoughts on this?
Well i am also looking for budget BBQ and this one seems pretty good..
Any comments from Deal experts
whampoa
Mar 22nd, 2010, 01:22 PM
Whoa, was that an end-of-season clearance or something recent? And from where?
Another question pertaining specifically to the Signet series of grills: Is the 400 square inch main cooking surface enough for say 6 med-large burgers AND a bunch of veggies in a veggie tray? I am concerned that stepping up from 260 square inches to 400 might not be enough as I can't get more than 3 burgers and the veggie tray on there now (and there's NO room to manouver the burgers, either). Comments?
Yes, end-of-season clearance at Rona Lansing from last year.
When I bought mine, there's still one left on the floor. I'm surprise no one notices.
I bought it last year for this year use. Usually the big Rona centre won't have those pricing, but the smaller Lansing does.
Last year the Signet 90 is selling under 500$ at most Rona due to the recall issues, but mine is NG so that won't affect me since it's not on the recall list.
This type of deals always come near end of the year. However, last year it came around April and onward.
There's a thread about this deal in RFD from last year if I remembered correctly.
By the look of it, this unit will definitely fit more than 3 burgers and some at a time.
How many, I have no ideas since this my first BBQ?
jbarns
Mar 22nd, 2010, 01:33 PM
The crown 10 has the pedestal mount...rather than the 2 doors.
The grates on the crown 10 have a heavy porcelin coating....look like they would be better at fighting corrosion over the standard iron grates (which I have used for 15+ years). Also they are flat, not stepped like the other cast iron grates....so my plan is to swap over to the stainless steel rod grates eventually.
The price of $279....is a very attractive price.:D
u sure are pushing this deal eh:lol:
I'll check out sears this weekend probably when i bring my other one back
WildPegasus
Mar 22nd, 2010, 01:36 PM
I think there are some people reading this thread looking for a slightly cheaper, more entry level BBQ deal. Someone I trust has told me I wont be able to find a better $199-ish BBQ than this Broil-Mate from HD
- http://tinyurl.com/yfpc5ls
Any of you "seasoned" BBQ vets have thoughts on this?
I bought it as a floor model for $30 off and no complaints. Buries the needle on the thermometer in 10 minutes. Tends to have some flareups and the sides are a bit cooler than the middle but no worse then the Weber I once had.
daisy54
Mar 22nd, 2010, 01:53 PM
After reading through a lot of this thread I caved and bought a Broil King Crown 10 from Sears this past weekend. Managed to get it for $ 267 incl. taxes, so I guess I did alright. I don't really need all the bells and whistles, just a BBQ that isn't going to crap out on me in a year, and it seemed pretty solid. I will post a review once I actually put the bad boy together this weekend and try it out!
Thanks to all the posters for their advice :)
jbarns
Mar 22nd, 2010, 02:06 PM
After reading through a lot of this thread I caved and bought a Broil King Crown 10 from Sears this past weekend. Managed to get it for $ 267 incl. taxes, so I guess I did alright. I don't really need all the bells and whistles, just a BBQ that isn't going to crap out on me in a year, and it seemed pretty solid. I will post a review once I actually put the bad boy together this weekend and try it out!
Thanks to all the posters for their advice :)
howd you get it for that cheap? scratch and save?
DTOM
Mar 22nd, 2010, 02:51 PM
The cabinet is not fully enclosed on a Crown 10 but enclosed on a 40. Also the cast grids on the 10 are a glossy porcelain coating over cast iron & are prone to chip easily. The grids on a 40 have a matte porcelain finish and are harder to damage. You will need to season your grids all the time to keep them in good shape. But if you do this they will last for you.
:D
Cool. Thanks.
Oh, when you talk about having to season the grids all the time is that for both models or just the Crown 10?
67mike
Mar 22nd, 2010, 03:07 PM
Cool. Thanks.
Oh, when you talk about having to season the grids all the time is that for both models or just the Crown 10?
The Crown 10 has a heavy coating on the grates....no need to season.
67mike
Mar 22nd, 2010, 03:08 PM
After reading through a lot of this thread I caved and bought a Broil King Crown 10 from Sears this past weekend. Managed to get it for $ 267 incl. taxes, so I guess I did alright. I don't really need all the bells and whistles, just a BBQ that isn't going to crap out on me in a year, and it seemed pretty solid. I will post a review once I actually put the bad boy together this weekend and try it out!
Thanks to all the posters for their advice :)
How did you get that price??????
67mike
Mar 22nd, 2010, 03:09 PM
I been looking for a while. I think this is the cheapest NG BBQ in the market. I just don't know if this brand is good. Anyone knows about this brand?
thanks
Fiesta
Model: SG44552-750
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=911142&Ntt=911142&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113000&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
Absolute CRAP. Save up and get a better one.
curls00
Mar 22nd, 2010, 03:50 PM
I just went to a BBQ specialty shop close to me and even though they don't sell Broil Mate (they do sell and really push Broil King in the <$1000 range), they did say that the Broil Mate grills are actually really good for the mostpart. I tried the B-King Signet 90 for size, and unfortunately its a bit small for what I want. With a veggie grilling wok/basket, there wouldn't be much room for burgers, and the basket would have to be turned sideways because the grill itself was too shallow (front-to-back). Not happy that I was a few inches short of my ideal barbecue.
The sales rep did say that the Home Depot Broil Mate is actually a good grill and his brother has one and really likes it. It uses mostly the same parts as the Signet series of Broil King grills, but the main difference is the casing (cast aluminum vs. double-walled stainless), and the size (Broil Mate is considerably larger).
I think a few weeks from now I will own the B-Mate from Home Depot -- waiting for a potential spring sale that a HD employee said usually happens mid-April.
Feegus
Mar 22nd, 2010, 04:20 PM
I think a few weeks from now I will own the B-Mate from Home Depot -- waiting for a potential spring sale that a HD employee said usually happens mid-April.
I was thinking the same thing, but the HD guy I spoke with said that spring sales are usually for the higher end BBQ's the one we're looking at is the cheapest one they have. He said the floor model may go a for a bit cheaper in the fall, but other than that this model wont drop in price at all. :(
Of course he did say its a heck of a BBQ at the reg price of $200 anyway.
curls00
Mar 22nd, 2010, 04:56 PM
I was thinking the same thing, but the HD guy I spoke with said that spring sales are usually for the higher end BBQ's the one we're looking at is the cheapest one they have. He said the floor model may go a for a bit cheaper in the fall, but other than that this model wont drop in price at all. :(
Of course he did say its a heck of a BBQ at the reg price of $200 anyway.
I see your point but I guess I wasn't clear, my bad. I was speaking of the $549 Broil Mate. I need the size for family gatherings, etc.
barrist
Mar 23rd, 2010, 07:38 AM
Weber Q300 (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909217&Ntt=909217&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber&eid=********&utm_source=********&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=909217) vs Porta Chef Pro (http://www.johnstones.com/barbecues/broil-king/porta-chef-4.html) vs Napoleon Freestyle (http://www.napoleongrills.com/Gourmet-grills/Freestyle/Freestyle.html)
What's your pick?
I think the Napoleon is out of contention, as I think its made in china.
The porta chef and weber i believe are made in canada and usa respectively.
leaning towards the portachef since its so much cheaper, and i think it will do just fine for my needs
Risky Business
Mar 23rd, 2010, 08:10 AM
You can get a discounted price at Rona if you talk to the right person.
I had narrowed my search down to the BK Signet 90 (propane; $549.99 at Rona) and needed it right away as my rusty old bbq finally buckled under its own weight.
I 'negotiated' with the floor manager in charge of that section and he gave me 15% off the reg price ($549.99) so $467.49 + tax. Not the greatest deal but hey, it more than covered the taxes so I was happy.
Moral of the story: Find the bbq you want, then go make it happen! ;)
daisy54
Mar 23rd, 2010, 08:51 AM
After reading through a lot of this thread I caved and bought a Broil King Crown 10 from Sears this past weekend. Managed to get it for $ 267 incl. taxes, so I guess I did alright. I don't really need all the bells and whistles, just a BBQ that isn't going to crap out on me in a year, and it seemed pretty solid. I will post a review once I actually put the bad boy together this weekend and try it out!
Thanks to all the posters for their advice :)
howd you get it for that cheap? scratch and save?
$299 sale price less $20 scratch and save plus an extra %15 off because of a family employee discount. I was hoping for a bigger scratch and save but that will do :)
jbarns
Mar 23rd, 2010, 09:02 AM
$299 sale price less $20 scratch and save plus an extra %15 off because of a family employee discount. I was hoping for a bigger scratch and save but that will do :)
nicely done!
ipassgas
Mar 23rd, 2010, 09:13 AM
what about the Thermos Heatwave 500 from Canadian tire for $299? Is that any good? It is propane OR NG.
67mike
Mar 23rd, 2010, 09:50 AM
what about the Thermos Heatwave 500 from Canadian tire for $299? Is that any good? It is propane OR NG.
The ONLY good BBQ CT sells is the Napolean line.
All others are crap. The cheap weber is OK.
Nutella
Mar 23rd, 2010, 10:02 AM
You can get a discounted price at Rona if you talk to the right person.
I had narrowed my search down to the BK Signet 90 (propane; $549.99 at Rona) and needed it right away as my rusty old bbq finally buckled under its own weight.
I 'negotiated' with the floor manager in charge of that section and he gave me 15% off the reg price ($549.99) so $467.49 + tax. Not the greatest deal but hey, it more than covered the taxes so I was happy.
Moral of the story: Find the bbq you want, then go make it happen! ;)
I was at Rona and saw this BBQ, I want Signet20 NG but if negot. is possible, I'd go for the SIgnet90.
How did you manage to negotiate!? Thought those prices were fixed unless it's end of season clearout or display model. I suck at this smooth talking. I need a strategy! I just want Signet 20 NG but they dont have NG and I can't wait and wait for it. Maybe I can negotiate a free NG conversion hose kit and if I buy the Propane BBQ. But thats asking too much since they sell the kit for $75
Nutella
Mar 23rd, 2010, 10:04 AM
The ONLY good BBQ CT sells is the Napolean line.
All others are crap. The cheap weber is OK.
+1 agreed. I've looked very closely at the Crappy Tire BBQs. Aside from Napoleon, the others have terrible steel parts, some of it covering burners with black paint that will burn off in no time, not to mention poison your food. These are dressed up China junk boxes. Stay far away. Names that come to mind: CuisineArt, Coleman, Grill-???
curls00
Mar 23rd, 2010, 10:37 AM
There's a Blue Ember (by Fiesta) going on sale this weekend, Sunday only, for $399 @ Home Depot. Regular $649.
Model FGF50057-101 I believe.
Does anyone have experience with this one? They took it off of their website but still have some basic info here (it's the one on the right, not the iQue): http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/DisplayTemplate?display=brand_blue_ember&langId=-15&storeId=10051&catalogId=10051
Compared to any other made in China grill, is this any better or worse?
Nutella
Mar 23rd, 2010, 10:47 AM
There's a Blue Ember (by Fiesta) going on sale this weekend, Sunday only, for $399 @ Home Depot. Regular $649.
Model FGF50057-101 I believe.
Does anyone have experience with this one? They took it off of their website but still have some basic info here (it's the one on the right, not the iQue): http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/DisplayTemplate?display=brand_blue_ember&langId=-15&storeId=10051&catalogId=10051
Compared to any other made in China grill, is this any better or worse?
Scary recall on this model in '08. It's probably fixed now, but it involved melting fuel line! I'd steer clear.
http://bbq.about.com/b/2008/10/23/recall-alert-fiesta-blue-ember-gas-grill.htm
scorpionbb
Mar 23rd, 2010, 10:48 AM
I'm newbie buying BBQ, is Weber Q300 good? or any great suggestion if my budget is below $400?
67mike
Mar 23rd, 2010, 10:57 AM
I'm newbie buying BBQ, is Weber Q300 good? or any great suggestion if my budget is below $400?
Broil King Crown 10 .....$299.00 at sears. use the $20 off cupon found here and it is $279.00 NO BRAINER.....absolutely the best value in BBQ.:idea:
jbarns
Mar 23rd, 2010, 11:51 AM
Broil King Crown 10 .....$299.00 at sears. use the $20 off cupon found here and it is $279.00 NO BRAINER.....absolutely the best value in BBQ.:idea:
where is this coupon you speak of
Nutella
Mar 23rd, 2010, 12:16 PM
where is this coupon you speak of
It's posted here in the RFD coupon section for Sears.
It's an ONLINE coupon. So you have to apply the coupon code and buy the BBQ online. (see it in the store first of course).
http://coupons.redflagdeals.com/i.php/all/Sears.ca_138/
I like this BBQ. But not liking the old style figure 8-burner and porcelain grill. But to get the stainless tube burner + cast iron grill in another Broil King, it's going to be $130+ more.
67mike
Mar 23rd, 2010, 12:48 PM
It's posted here in the RFD coupon section for Sears.
It's an ONLINE coupon. So you have to apply the coupon code and buy the BBQ online. (see it in the store first of course).
http://coupons.redflagdeals.com/i.php/all/Sears.ca_138/
I like this BBQ. But not liking the old style figure 8-burner and porcelain grill. But to get the stainless tube burner + cast iron grill in another Broil King, it's going to be $130+ more.
It is a cast iron grill coated with porcelin......I used the other cast iron grill for 15+ years....this one looks better to me. Also, the infinity 8 burner is excellent. It is super easy to do KILLER steaks on this burner.
jbarns
Mar 23rd, 2010, 12:56 PM
It's posted here in the RFD coupon section for Sears.
It's an ONLINE coupon. So you have to apply the coupon code and buy the BBQ online. (see it in the store first of course).
http://coupons.redflagdeals.com/i.php/all/Sears.ca_138/
I like this BBQ. But not liking the old style figure 8-burner and porcelain grill. But to get the stainless tube burner + cast iron grill in another Broil King, it's going to be $130+ more.
I see, don't they have scratch and save in store for potentially better deals?
I see on the sears site that the better broil kings even have that SS Super 8 Infinity burners. For the grill I'll have to decide in store which one I'll feel more comfortable with.
Nutella
Mar 23rd, 2010, 01:04 PM
It is a cast iron grill coated with porcelin......I used the other cast iron grill for 15+ years....this one looks better to me. Also, the infinity 8 burner is excellent. It is super easy to do KILLER steaks on this burner.
I am wondering if the true cast iron grill could be purchased as an extra part that would fit this Crown 10. It should still be a cheap BK BBQ
Risky Business
Mar 23rd, 2010, 01:11 PM
I was at Rona and saw this BBQ, I want Signet20 NG but if negot. is possible, I'd go for the SIgnet90.
How did you manage to negotiate!? Thought those prices were fixed unless it's end of season clearout or display model. I suck at this smooth talking. I need a strategy! I just want Signet 20 NG but they dont have NG and I can't wait and wait for it. Maybe I can negotiate a free NG conversion hose kit and if I buy the Propane BBQ. But thats asking too much since they sell the kit for $75
Well, they do have the scratch and save days coming next month. So I said, "let's just presume I hit the 15% off..." ;) Then I just said that I would keep shopping around for a better value unless of course he was seriously interested in moving one today...
The real key is making sure you're talking to a manager - not just a CSR. All your negotiation tactics will be wasted if it's targeted to the wrong individual.
Just be friendly, yet direct. They'd rather move product than, well, not.
pbillone
Mar 23rd, 2010, 01:22 PM
There's a Blue Ember (by Fiesta) going on sale this weekend, Sunday only, for $399 @ Home Depot. Regular $649.
Model FGF50057-101 I believe.
Does anyone have experience with this one? They took it off of their website but still have some basic info here (it's the one on the right, not the iQue): http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/DisplayTemplate?display=brand_blue_ember&langId=-15&storeId=10051&catalogId=10051
Compared to any other made in China grill, is this any better or worse?
The recall (there were 2 of them) seems to be due to incorrect assembly, so I would think that just taking some time to check the assembly before use would make it safe.
http://bbq.about.com/b/2009/07/21/recall-alert-fiesta-blue-ember-gas-grill-2.htm
http://bbq.about.com/b/2008/10/23/recall-alert-fiesta-blue-ember-gas-grill.htm
That being said, does anyone know if there is a gas conversion kit available for Blue Ember BBQs?
Also to the OP, where did you find the info regarding the HD sale?
67mike
Mar 23rd, 2010, 01:51 PM
I am wondering if the true cast iron grill could be purchased as an extra part that would fit this Crown 10. It should still be a cheap BK BBQ
I plan on replacing them with the stainless rod grates, once I need to replace them.
shoppingkart
Mar 23rd, 2010, 03:05 PM
I plan on replacing them with the stainless rod grates, once I need to replace them.
By the time you need to replace the grids it will be time to replace the bbq.:razz:
MS MSP
Mar 23rd, 2010, 04:03 PM
There's a Blue Ember (by Fiesta) going on sale this weekend, Sunday only, for $399 @ Home Depot. Regular $649.
Model FGF50057-101 I believe.
Does anyone have experience with this one? They took it off of their website but still have some basic info here (it's the one on the right, not the iQue): http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/DisplayTemplate?display=brand_blue_ember&langId=-15&storeId=10051&catalogId=10051
Compared to any other made in China grill, is this any better or worse?
I saw that one in person 2 weeks ago at Home Depot Collingwood and the sales guy was pushing it hard.
Looked like a very nice piece with a lot of extras for the price (The bottle opener was a nice touch).
The NG version was actually $50 cheaper, do you know if it's on sale too?
Model FG50057-706
hingisfan
Mar 23rd, 2010, 04:33 PM
OK I need something decent for under $200.
Don't care if it has side burner or not.
Any ideas???
curls00
Mar 23rd, 2010, 04:47 PM
Also to the OP, where did you find the info regarding the HD sale?
Front page of homedepot.ca -- find the flyer and you'll see that particular BBQ is Sunday only.
I don't think the NG one is part of it - it only specifies the LP model.
Anyone know if I were to buy it today/tomorrow and bring the receipt back on Sunday, would they price match with their 14-day price protection policy? At least I wouldn't have to be up at 7am and hope for stock. LOL
brucered
Mar 23rd, 2010, 04:48 PM
OK I need something decent for under $200.
Don't care if it has side burner or not.
Any ideas???
weber one touch gold 22-1/2" charcoal ($219 at sears, then get a coupon or scratch). can't beat it for great tasting food. pick up a chimney starter (weber) or the one from WM and you're set.
v_tofu
Mar 23rd, 2010, 04:55 PM
weber one touch gold 22-1/2" charcoal ($219 at sears, then get a coupon or scratch). can't beat it for great tasting food. pick up a chimney starter (weber) or the one from WM and you're set.
link please? I'm on the sears website but I can't find it.
isitin
Mar 23rd, 2010, 05:01 PM
After comparing the B-King Signet 90 ($550 @ Rona) to the B-Mate 738989 LP ($550 @ HD), the main differences I can see are:
- BKing is cast aluminum oven, BMate is double-walled stainless (supposedly insulated).
- BKing is smaller - 400sq-in main cooking area vs 625 on the BMate. I could use the larger space for backyard parties, but is 400 sq-in really large enough for say 8 large hamburgers, PLUS veggies, etc...? It doesn't seem so.
That was about all I could see between them that was different. They use the exact same rear rotisserie burner and rotisserie apparatus (and motor), the exact same 5-year warranty stainless dual-tube burners, the same or very similar cast iron cooking grids, and the Broil-Mate actually has more storage including a shelf underneath the unit itself.
Anything else I should be concerned with or looking into between these two?
The Broil King is made in Canada & the Broil Mate is from China.
isitin
Mar 23rd, 2010, 05:05 PM
Any comment on this Broil King from Sears?
CROWN 40 94944 LP
50$ off and there seem to be a 35$ off / 350$ coupon out there
http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309070?ptag=1
$399 is the regular price on this grill.
isitin
Mar 23rd, 2010, 05:07 PM
I am going to give a shout out to the great value in BBQ offered by:
Sears.ca has the Broil King Crown 10 for $299.00 ($100 off) then you can use the $20.00 off cupon here and get a GREAT BBQ for $279.00!
Show me a better value, and I'll eat it!:D
$299 is the regular price for this grill, plus the Crown 40 has better cooking grids.
jbarns
Mar 23rd, 2010, 05:08 PM
I saw that one in person 2 weeks ago at Home Depot Collingwood and the sales guy was pushing it hard.
Looked like a very nice piece with a lot of extras for the price (The bottle opener was a nice touch).
The NG version was actually $50 cheaper, do you know if it's on sale too?
Model FG50057-706
usually nice pieces are to distract you from the big issues.
I have no experience with that brand but if doesn't cook correctly all those features are useless.
isitin
Mar 23rd, 2010, 05:14 PM
The crown 10 has the pedestal mount...rather than the 2 doors.
The grates on the crown 10 have a heavy porcelin coating....look like they would be better at fighting corrosion over the standard iron grates (which I have used for 15+ years). Also they are flat, not stepped like the other cast iron grates....so my plan is to swap over to the stainless steel rod grates eventually.
The price of $279....is a very attractive price.:D
The cooking grids on a Crown 10 will chip & rust much quicker than the rest of the OMC line. That is why they are used on the cheaper lines from OMC.
isitin
Mar 23rd, 2010, 05:26 PM
Cool. Thanks.
Oh, when you talk about having to season the grids all the time is that for both models or just the Crown 10?
You need to season your grids on the 10 & 40 so your food doesn't stick & so it wont rust.
isitin
Mar 23rd, 2010, 05:28 PM
The Crown 10 has a heavy coating on the grates....no need to season.
Don't listen to him, season your grids.
isitin
Mar 23rd, 2010, 05:34 PM
The ONLY good BBQ CT sells is the Napolean line.
All others are crap. The cheap weber is OK.
All Canadian Tire bbqs are Made In China.
isitin
Mar 23rd, 2010, 05:36 PM
I was at Rona and saw this BBQ, I want Signet20 NG but if negot. is possible, I'd go for the SIgnet90.
How did you manage to negotiate!? Thought those prices were fixed unless it's end of season clearout or display model. I suck at this smooth talking. I need a strategy! I just want Signet 20 NG but they dont have NG and I can't wait and wait for it. Maybe I can negotiate a free NG conversion hose kit and if I buy the Propane BBQ. But thats asking too much since they sell the kit for $75
No you cant just change the hose from propane to nat gas. You must also change the manifold on a Broil King bbq.
brucered
Mar 23rd, 2010, 05:39 PM
link please? I'm on the sears website but I can't find it.
http://www.sears.ca/stores/shop/search?langId=1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10001&N=0&Ntk=level1&Ntt=weber+gold&Nty=1&D=weber+gold&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&initialquery=true&internalSearch=true
sears site: search "WEBER GOLD"
shoppingkart
Mar 23rd, 2010, 05:45 PM
You need to season your grids on the 10 & 40 so your food doesn't stick & so it wont rust.
Why a porcelain coated grid would rust?
What would you consider a good deal on a Broil King bbq…. $50 off…$100 off? Thanks
BartBandy
Mar 23rd, 2010, 05:50 PM
Why a porcelain coated grid would rust?
It cracks...water reaches the steel...the steel rusts. And crack they will. Seasoning the grills may help prolong them, but they'll still crack at some point. I simply hate porcelain coated grills by this point. Stainless steel bar grills for me from now on.
shoppingkart
Mar 23rd, 2010, 06:17 PM
It cracks...water reaches the steel...the steel rusts. And crack they will. Seasoning the grills may help prolong them, but they'll still crack at some point. I simply hate porcelain coated grills by this point. Stainless steel bar grills for me from now on.
Well….I have a 14 years old Broil king with porcelain coated grids, but no rust on them yet. The rest of the bbq is showing its age, so time for a new one soon.
isitin
Mar 23rd, 2010, 06:36 PM
I am wondering if the true cast iron grill could be purchased as an extra part that would fit this Crown 10. It should still be a cheap BK BBQ
Yes they retail for $49.99 for the set of Broil King cast iron grids.
isitin
Mar 23rd, 2010, 06:41 PM
weber one touch gold 22-1/2" charcoal ($219 at sears, then get a coupon or scratch). can't beat it for great tasting food. pick up a chimney starter (weber) or the one from WM and you're set.
Everyone else sells the grill for $199.99. Sears is charging a premium price for their grills.
isitin
Mar 23rd, 2010, 06:52 PM
Why a porcelain coated grid would rust?
What would you consider a good deal on a Broil King bbq…. $50 off…$100 off? Thanks
Cast iron will rust without proper seasoning. Think of a cast iron frying pan, you have to oil it or it will rust. Plus seasoning your grids will assure you that whatever you are cooking does not stick.
Seasoning Cast Iron Grids: Spread a thin coating of cooking oil ( Vegetable, Olive, Peanut, Canola, Sunflower) over entire surface of the cast iron grids with a paper towel. Be certain the entire surface, including all corners, has been coated thoroughly. DO NOT use salted fat such as margarine or butter. Never use non-stick sprays to season your grids, as they just don't work. They burn off at a really low heat and do not protect the grids well.
Preheat barbecue for 10 minutes on HIGH. Turn burners to MEDIUM with lid closed. Allow barbecue to heat for 30 minutes. Turn all burners to OFF. Leave cooking grids in barbecue until they are cool. Your cast iron grids are now ready to use.
Reseasoning: After each use the grids should be reseasoned by coating with a cooking oil, closing the lid and leaving the cast iron grids in the barbecue until it is cool.
Storage: When Barbecue is not in use for long periods of time, store cast iron grids in a dry warm place.
If you really want the right price on a Broil KIng or Weber bbq go to
http://www.bbqs.com/ as their website has the right prices to charge. And no I do not work for them. My website does not have the bbq prices listed on it so I know theirs does.
:):):)
diehardfan
Mar 23rd, 2010, 06:58 PM
Cast iron will rust without proper seasoning. Think of a cast iron frying pan, you have to oil it or it will rust. Plus seasoning your grids will assure you that whatever you are cooking does not stick.
Seasoning Cast Iron Grids: Spread a thin coating of cooking oil ( Vegetable, Olive, Peanut, Canola, Sunflower) over entire surface of the cast iron grids with a paper towel. Be certain the entire surface, including all corners, has been coated thoroughly. DO NOT use salted fat such as margarine or butter. Never use non-stick sprays to season your grids, as they just don't work. They burn off at a really low heat and do not protect the grids well.
Preheat barbecue for 10 minutes on HIGH. Turn burners to MEDIUM with lid closed. Allow barbecue to heat for 30 minutes. Turn all burners to OFF. Leave cooking grids in barbecue until they are cool. Your cast iron grids are now ready to use.
Reseasoning: After each use the grids should be reseasoned by coating with a cooking oil, closing the lid and leaving the cast iron grids in the barbecue until it is cool.
Storage: When Barbecue is not in use for long periods of time, store cast iron grids in a dry warm place.
If you really want the right price on a Broil KIng or Weber bbq go to
http://www.bbqs.com/ as their website has the right prices to charge. And no I do not work for them. My website does not have the bbq prices listed on it so I know theirs does.
:):):)
What is your take on Broil King's Super 8 burners VS Dual Tube burners?
I am on the fence on either the Crown or Signet series.
Thanks
Frostie
Mar 23rd, 2010, 07:19 PM
No you cant just change the hose from propane to nat gas. You must also change the manifold on a Broil King bbq.
I converted both my BBQ and my inlaw's BBQ from propane to natural gas. Just drilled out the orifaces a bit and removed the propane hose from the manifold and added a natural gas hose. The conversion was actually quite easy on our older Sterling BBQs.
isitin
Mar 23rd, 2010, 07:38 PM
What is your take on Broil King's Super 8 burners VS Dual Tube burners?
I am on the fence on either the Crown or Signet series.
Thanks
They are both very good burners. I had a Regal that I bought in 1995 & replaced the Infinity Super 8 in 2007. It actually did not need to be changed but since I was replacing other things decided to do the burner also. I retail it for $56 & I sell a lot of them. Very even heat distribution. I like the Dual Tube burner also. Very even heat from front to back. Also sell this burner for $10.99 each. Very economical to replace. All parts on a Broil King bbq are very well priced. Also the big thing is Broil King parts are readily available.
:D:D:D:D:D
67mike
Mar 23rd, 2010, 08:30 PM
All Canadian Tire bbqs are Made In China.
I thought the Napolean stuff was Canadian made?????
I agree the rest: centros, coleman, cusinart, etc...are COMPLETE JUNK, made in China.
hellomeems
Mar 23rd, 2010, 09:26 PM
I thought this thread was about BBQ Deals, but it seems like it's become a shopping discussion. Maybe some of these posts can be moved to a new thread under that heading?
jon-calgary
Mar 23rd, 2010, 09:35 PM
I thought this thread was about BBQ Deals, but it seems like it's become a shopping discussion. Maybe some of these posts can be moved to a new thread under that heading?
BBQ Deals are shopping discussion, right. or What you mean is it is becoming BBQ discussion. Well I think all other threads here in HOT deals start as Shopping discussion and then move to the item discussion which IMHO is good for all buyers (for all of us).
Fr0sty
Mar 24th, 2010, 12:34 PM
so im now thinking of going charcoal - has anyone used the weber performer?
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909220&Ntt=909220&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=112998&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
Vancouvergroover
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:03 PM
You definitely are in the bbq business. As I am in the business & just found out that the Broil-Mates at HD are Made In China. Also Vermont Casting is giving up the ship after this year. So if you want a horrible Made in China VC than go ahead. But if you want a quality Q buy a Broil King or Weber. And from your previous post yes Weber Genesis has the 9.5mm solid thick stainless steel cooking grids, not just the Summit's. You can only get the at a CBE dealer.
http://www.certifiedbbqexperts.com/
I can assure you for whatever an anonymous forum posting is worth that I'm not in the BBQ business. I would hope that someone in the business wouldn't waste as much time as me looking for a $400-$500 BBQ. I am interested in your comment re: Vermont Castings leaving the business. I was told that the current Vermont Castings took over the brand from a failing business a year or two ago and pissed off a number of owners with warranty issues from the former business. Are they giving it up again so soon? Where did you hear this from? This would certainly have an impact on my decision as Vermont Castings is still (barely) in the running for my choice.
Nutella
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:25 PM
Broil King Signet 20 $349 at Rona. (GTA). Now last week it was $399.
http://www.rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-signet-20-propane-gas-barbecue-broil-king-385959_broil-king_propane-gas-barbecues_barbecues_summer-seasonal_shop&langId=-1&catalogId=10059&postalCode=L5M+7G4&categoryId=&errorViewName=ChangePostalCodeView&catentryList=&mbrGrpMbrId=-3110
Raiikoh
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:30 PM
Broil King Signet 20 $349 at Rona. (GTA). Now last week it was $399.
http://www.rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-signet-20-propane-gas-barbecue-broil-king-385959_broil-king_propane-gas-barbecues_barbecues_summer-seasonal_shop&langId=-1&catalogId=10059&postalCode=L5M+7G4&categoryId=&errorViewName=ChangePostalCodeView&catentryList=&mbrGrpMbrId=-3110
Confirmed with a BC postal code. Thanks a bunch, I've been waiting for a discount on the Signet 20.
Edit: Or I may wait until the weekend and use this (http://www.rona.ca/v2/images/en_US/coupons_airmiles/k0c_coupon_3194.pdf) for the extra Air Miles.
WaltDisney
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:53 PM
so im now thinking of going charcoal - has anyone used the weber performer?
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909220&Ntt=909220&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=112998&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
Great charcoal bbq. Has car/tabletop, charcoal holder, hinged cooking grate, gas ignition for starting charcoal, ash catcher for no mess clean ups.
I use mine 2-3 times a week. With the weber chimney I can fire up the coals in about 15-20 minutes.
brucered
Mar 24th, 2010, 04:08 PM
Great charcoal bbq. Has car/tabletop, charcoal holder, hinged cooking grate, gas ignition for starting charcoal, ash catcher for no mess clean ups.
I use mine 2-3 times a week. With the weber chimney I can fire up the coals in about 15-20 minutes.
+1 on the performer.
although i don't own one, i'd love to own one. i have a weber 22-1/2" (basically brand new) bar-b-kettle and love it. with a good chimney starter, you can be bbqing in about as long as it takes for a gas one to heat up. better tasting food as well.
buy LUMP CHARCOAL though, no chemicals
jbarns
Mar 24th, 2010, 04:44 PM
Broil King Signet 20 $349 at Rona. (GTA). Now last week it was $399.
http://www.rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-signet-20-propane-gas-barbecue-broil-king-385959_broil-king_propane-gas-barbecues_barbecues_summer-seasonal_shop&langId=-1&catalogId=10059&postalCode=L5M+7G4&categoryId=&errorViewName=ChangePostalCodeView&catentryList=&mbrGrpMbrId=-3110
ou I like the style over the crown
Fr0sty
Mar 24th, 2010, 06:32 PM
+1 on the performer.
although i don't own one, i'd love to own one. i have a weber 22-1/2" (basically brand new) bar-b-kettle and love it. with a good chimney starter, you can be bbqing in about as long as it takes for a gas one to heat up. better tasting food as well.
buy LUMP CHARCOAL though, no chemicals
Kewl- looks like im in then.
can you guys tell me about this chimney starter and how it works (is there any point buying the weber with the propane starter if you're going to buy a chimney start?)
Majoram
Mar 24th, 2010, 07:28 PM
+1 on the performer.
although i don't own one, i'd love to own one. i have a weber 22-1/2" (basically brand new) bar-b-kettle and love it. with a good chimney starter, you can be bbqing in about as long as it takes for a gas one to heat up. better tasting food as well.
buy LUMP CHARCOAL though, no chemicals
I'm thinking about getting the Performer as well.
Just wondering that since it has a gas igniter, is there any particular reason that the chimney starter would be needed??
dchamber
Mar 24th, 2010, 08:57 PM
I'm thinking about getting the Performer as well.
Just wondering that since it has a gas igniter, is there any particular reason that the chimney starter would be needed??
Good question. I too am in the running for one of these, but was also confused about WaltDisneys comment regarding the chimney starter. I thought with the propane lighter built in, a chimney starter wasn't necessary.
Nutella
Mar 24th, 2010, 09:29 PM
Broil King Signet 20 $349 at Rona. (GTA). Now last week it was $399.
http://www.rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-signet-20-propane-gas-barbecue-broil-king-385959_broil-king_propane-gas-barbecues_barbecues_summer-seasonal_shop&langId=-1&catalogId=10059&postalCode=L5M+7G4&categoryId=&errorViewName=ChangePostalCodeView&catentryList=&mbrGrpMbrId=-3110
The Natural Gas model (not listed on website) is still $449. A full $100 more than the Propane. Thats what the store said when I called. This sucks b/c I need NG model. But the propane model at $349 is a pretty hard to beat deal aside from that Sears Crown model at $279. This Signet 20 has the 3 tube burners AND cast iron grills. Made in Canada.
billybob501
Mar 24th, 2010, 10:34 PM
$593.25 US (or $612 CDN for a weber sp320 (previous year model), shipped to amerifriend! This barbeque from what I see on the specs has stainless steel burners, cooking grids, flavorizer bars, and the higher grade stainless steel on the cabinet, shelves, lid and doors. Very similar to the E310 Spirit model with the stainless parts only available on the genesis S310 (just smaller and correspondingly less BTU burners, but does have a side burner unlike the 310).
I had to call appliancesconnection to process my order b/c of an international (CDN) credit card. As well there was a 5% surcharge for using such charge bringing it up from $565.
The weber E310 locally was $720 + taxes or $792. For the extra $180, I can drive a ways and spend two nights in a hotel with cheap priceline rate ($42/night) not to mention get better quality barbeque.
Will update when I get it in my hands and all is well!
Majoram
Mar 24th, 2010, 11:28 PM
Good question. I too am in the running for one of these, but was also confused about WaltDisneys comment regarding the chimney starter. I thought with the propane lighter built in, a chimney starter wasn't necessary.
Are you planning to buy it soon or waiting for a sale?
I'm not sure what to do. The cheapest I've seen is $399.
rocking23nf
Mar 25th, 2010, 12:09 AM
Chimney starter is simply a tub that holds charcoal, in which you load paper in the bottom of the chimney. You light the paper, wait 10 mins, and you usually have perfect coals. There is no more lighter fluid needed. I have used this all summer last year and it works everytime.
lighter fluid stinks, and alot of people can taste it on thier food. And it costs money.
I just use old newspapers/flyers.
The Chimney starter runs around 20 bucks, and I can only comment on the weber model, and this is the model i would buy again and again.
chandans
Mar 25th, 2010, 01:09 AM
The Chimney starter runs around 20 bucks, and I can only comment on the weber model, and this is the model i would buy again and again.
where do you get one? i tried looking for one everywhere last summer.
The Natural Gas model (not listed on website) is still $449. A full $100 more than the Propane. Thats what the store said when I called. This sucks b/c I need NG model. But the propane model at $349 is a pretty hard to beat deal aside from that Sears Crown model at $279. This Signet 20 has the 3 tube burners AND cast iron grills. Made in Canada.
+1 im also looking for a new NG BBQ, can anyone one reccomend something under 400? im really new to the bbq scene, just bought my first house, and would apprecaite the help from the rfd community. ill try reading through the thread for now...:confused:
Majoram
Mar 25th, 2010, 01:24 AM
where do you get one? i tried looking for one everywhere last summer.
Saw the Weber Chimney at Lowes for about $29 (maybe $25 - not sure).
Nutella
Mar 25th, 2010, 06:28 AM
where do you get one? i tried looking for one everywhere last summer.
+1 im also looking for a new NG BBQ, can anyone one reccomend something under 400? im really new to the bbq scene, just bought my first house, and would apprecaite the help from the rfd community. ill try reading through the thread for now...:confused:
Here are 2 under $400. Smaller and basic.
Broil King Monarch 10 ($369.99) NG model
http://barbecuesgalore.ca/cooking.bpsx?CookingID=2
Broil King Monarch 20 ($329.99) NG model
http://barbecuesgalore.ca/cooking.bpsx?CookingID=1
brucered
Mar 25th, 2010, 06:42 AM
where do you get one? i tried looking for one everywhere last summer.
WM sells a GRILLPRO made by the same people who make weber bbqs (onward mfging) for like $11. i used it all last year and now this year. works great, super gib and cheap.
Fr0sty
Mar 25th, 2010, 07:01 AM
Chimney starter is simply a tub that holds charcoal, in which you load paper in the bottom of the chimney. You light the paper, wait 10 mins, and you usually have perfect coals. There is no more lighter fluid needed. I have used this all summer last year and it works everytime.
lighter fluid stinks, and alot of people can taste it on thier food. And it costs money.
I just use old newspapers/flyers.
The Chimney starter runs around 20 bucks, and I can only comment on the weber model, and this is the model i would buy again and again.
Cool - thanks - another question (or 2);
once lit do you dump the charcoal from the chimney and spread around the grill?
also - the chimney seems to make the 'auto starter' in the weber performer redundant, can someone confirm (no point paying extra for the starter when not going to be used...)
ahsun
Mar 25th, 2010, 07:23 AM
WM sells a GRILLPRO made by the same people who make weber bbqs (onward mfging) for like $11. i used it all last year and now this year. works great, super gib and cheap.
Onward doesn't actually manufacture the Webers, just distributes them in Canada. I would assume given that this is a Wal-Mart (exclusive?) brand, it's 99% manufactured in China. They don't even show GrillPro BBQ's on their website, just BBQ Accessories... are they that embarrassed with the product? :cheesygri
Here's hoping that the NG version of the Signet 20 at Rona will drop to match the price drop on the Propane version! $399 for a NG Signet 20 is good enough for me.
Hambone
Mar 25th, 2010, 07:27 AM
If the Weber Performer has a propane charcoal starter, you don't need a chimney starter. The only reason you'd use a chimney starter is if you ran out of propane.
Thimble
Mar 25th, 2010, 07:31 AM
+1 im also looking for a new NG BBQ, can anyone one reccomend something under 400? im really new to the bbq scene, just bought my first house, and would apprecaite the help from the rfd community. ill try reading through the thread for now...:confused:
Sears is selling the BK Crown 10 NG this w/e for $349, I think.
smuPoker
Mar 25th, 2010, 07:35 AM
I've read about seasoning your grills a bit on here and a bit elsewhere. I did not season mine for my Signet 20 before I used them since the manual didn't instruct me to.
Should I season them before the next time I use them?
barrist
Mar 25th, 2010, 07:42 AM
i remember on my old broil king (crown 20 i think), it said to turn on the grill the first time on high for like 10 minutes or something.
smuPoker
Mar 25th, 2010, 08:17 AM
i remember on my old broil king (crown 20 i think), it said to turn on the grill the first time on high for like 10 minutes or something.
I did that as well, after I washed the grills with warm, soapy water.
67mike
Mar 25th, 2010, 08:30 AM
I've read about seasoning your grills a bit on here and a bit elsewhere. I did not season mine for my Signet 20 before I used them since the manual didn't instruct me to.
Should I season them before the next time I use them?
It is a good idea to wipe olive oil on your cast iron grates after each use, to prevent rust. I did it for the first few years...then got lazy.....then the rusties came!
That is why I will be buying a STAINLESS replacement grate for my BK Crown 10, when the time comes.:cheesygri
Nutella
Mar 25th, 2010, 08:30 AM
I contacted this place. http://barbecuesgalore.ca/
They have Broil King Signet 20 NG model $449
Includes: free Cover, Wok Topper, Brush, Tongs and Chicken Roaster
rocking23nf
Mar 25th, 2010, 11:16 AM
I saw the chimney starter at rona, and barbaque country in edmonton. Yes you just dump the coals in, it has a handle, and then you move the coals around with whatever you like to use.
I dont know about the propane ignition, I bought the weber charcoal one with the ash catcher that was 199ish.
ahsun
Mar 25th, 2010, 12:22 PM
I contacted this place. http://barbecuesgalore.ca/
They have Broil King Signet 20 NG model $449
Includes: free Cover, Wok Topper, Brush, Tongs and Chicken Roaster
Ha sweet... maybe worth the drive to Oakville. Or perhaps a "PM" at Rona may be possible for the added accessories.
ipassgas
Mar 25th, 2010, 12:27 PM
Sears is selling the BK Crown 10 NG this w/e for $349, I think.
Is that sears item number 503 130 927 10 on their website which is currently $449?
I can't seem to tell where the model number is.
Askari
Mar 25th, 2010, 12:35 PM
You can get a discounted price at Rona if you talk to the right person.
I had narrowed my search down to the BK Signet 90 (propane; $549.99 at Rona) and needed it right away as my rusty old bbq finally buckled under its own weight.
I 'negotiated' with the floor manager in charge of that section and he gave me 15% off the reg price ($549.99) so $467.49 + tax. Not the greatest deal but hey, it more than covered the taxes so I was happy.
Moral of the story: Find the bbq you want, then go make it happen! ;)
tried this at Rona.. and no go. was trying to get 15% off on the sovereign xls90 which retails for $950 everywhere..
starryiid1
Mar 25th, 2010, 12:56 PM
I was out looking at a Broil King Sovereign XL with no side burner for $699 NG is this a decent price?
JonJubeTube
Mar 25th, 2010, 12:57 PM
From this week's XS Cargo flyer (http://toronto.flyerland.ca/view_flyer.php?flyer_id=19263&mode=single&pageNum_getFlyerPages=4):
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/jonjubetube/xscargocharbroil.jpg
Char-Broil 4-burner with side burner $199
Thimble
Mar 25th, 2010, 01:09 PM
Is that sears item number 503 130 927 10 on their website which is currently $449?
I can't seem to tell where the model number is.
The model number isn't listed on sears.ca. The NG that's $449 is a crown 40.
WaltDisney
Mar 25th, 2010, 01:21 PM
Good question. I too am in the running for one of these, but was also confused about WaltDisneys comment regarding the chimney starter. I thought with the propane lighter built in, a chimney starter wasn't necessary.
This is what I do when I start my coals. I fill my charcoal chimney, then place it over the charcoal grate. I ignite the propane burner and leave it on for about 5 minutes. After that, just leave it for about 10-15 minutes more and all the coals will be lit evenly.
Yes, the chimney is not necessary, you can build a small charcoal pyramid right on the grate over the flames, or use the charcoal holders included. But I find using a chimney in conjuction with the gas ignition fires up the coals a lot quicker, and you can also easily dump the coals wherever you want.
For those who want to get into charcoal grilling/bbq'ing, here's a good resource for equipment and technique:
http://tvwbb.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/9040039023
zoomzoom
Mar 25th, 2010, 01:52 PM
I contacted this place. http://barbecuesgalore.ca/
They have Broil King Signet 20 NG model $449
Includes: free Cover, Wok Topper, Brush, Tongs and Chicken Roaster
Is the "Includes" stuff on their web page somewhere (can't find it)... or do you have to negotiate for the 'free' stuff?
67mike
Mar 25th, 2010, 01:58 PM
From this week's XS Cargo flyer (http://toronto.flyerland.ca/view_flyer.php?flyer_id=19263&mode=single&pageNum_getFlyerPages=4):
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/jonjubetube/xscargocharbroil.jpg
Char-Broil 4-burner with side burner $199
Horrible.
I would not give you $29.99 for it!
Nutella
Mar 25th, 2010, 02:01 PM
Is the "Includes" stuff on their web page somewhere (can't find it)... or do you have to negotiate for the 'free' stuff?
No it's not on their webpage. Its from their sales guy's email response to my inquiry about this bbq (Oakville,ON location). Yeah just email them (see website contact) and ask a quote for whatever model.
Mind you I am sure the free stuff isn't the best quality cover, brush, etc. But its and edge over competition. Infact I've quoted 4 places now in GTA/oakville. All of them have the exact same price of $449 for this model. That's over $500 for a box of unnassembled parts. To me that sounds like a rip. So I'm waiting for a sale or discount as none of these vendors have competitive prices.
Askari
Mar 25th, 2010, 02:34 PM
I was out looking at a Broil King Sovereign XL with no side burner for $699 NG is this a decent price?
which model is this?
Fr0sty
Mar 25th, 2010, 03:11 PM
thnx rocking23nf & Waltdisney
Eldorado
Mar 25th, 2010, 03:38 PM
I contacted this place. http://barbecuesgalore.ca/
They have Broil King Signet 20 NG model $449
Includes: free Cover, Wok Topper, Brush, Tongs and Chicken Roaster
How much is this 'free' stuff really worth?
The propane model is going for $349 at Rona, which should generally mean $399 NG version.. so is this stuff really 'free'? Aside from the cover, you can probably grab the wok, brush, tongs, chicken roaster for $10 for the lot
http://www.rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-signet-20-propane-gas-barbecue-broil-king-385959_!broil-king_shop
edit - compared to the other models Rona carries, this place is $50 higher on all models
starryiid1
Mar 25th, 2010, 03:42 PM
which model is this?
The Model is a Sovereign XL20 one sales person said it was a special model only available from stores that are Certified BBQ Experts and cost $699 just trying to figure if this is good or not
brucered
Mar 25th, 2010, 04:09 PM
Onward doesn't actually manufacture the Webers, just distributes them in Canada. I would assume given that this is a Wal-Mart (exclusive?) brand, it's 99% manufactured in China. They don't even show GrillPro BBQ's on their website, just BBQ Accessories... are they that embarrassed with the product? :cheesygri
Here's hoping that the NG version of the Signet 20 at Rona will drop to match the price drop on the Propane version! $399 for a NG Signet 20 is good enough for me.
sorry it was made by GRILLIFE, as seen here:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/merged-bbq-deals-thread-721171/79/#post10446007
dr_chester007
Mar 25th, 2010, 05:22 PM
What do you guys think about this Broil-Mate is special this week at 209.97? I am looking for a bbq at the 200-250$ price range.
Thanks.
Link:
http://www.builderswarehouse.ca/bw_bmr_website/flyers_and_ads/bw_bmr_flyers_and_ads.html
brucered
Mar 25th, 2010, 05:58 PM
What do you guys think about this Broil-Mate is special this week at 209.97? I am looking for a bbq at the 200-250$ price range.
Thanks.
Link:
http://www.builderswarehouse.ca/bw_bmr_website/flyers_and_ads/bw_bmr_flyers_and_ads.html
charcoal, charcoal, charcoal. buy a one touch silver 22-1/2" or gold 18-1/2". for under $250 (sears and HD or lowes if you have one).
i would avoid gas bbq's, you aren't going to get anything decent in a full size, unless you look at some of the weber Q series
Bencherstyle
Mar 25th, 2010, 07:39 PM
charcoal, charcoal, charcoal. buy a one touch silver 22-1/2" or gold 18-1/2". for under $250 (sears and HD or lowes if you have one).
i would avoid gas bbq's, you aren't going to get anything decent in a full size, unless you look at some of the weber Q series
hmm, i thought Nature Gas ones were good?
i'm looking for one that is again, like everybody else, good; my price range is 300-400 dollars. which one tho? charcoal? and which model? :?
brucered
Mar 25th, 2010, 07:55 PM
hmm, i thought Nature Gas ones were good?
i'm looking for one that is again, like everybody else, good; my price range is 300-400 dollars. which one tho? charcoal? and which model? :?
NG BBQ's are great, i have one myself, but i don't think one in the $200-250 will last more then a year or 2 and even that, won't be a good bbq.
for $300-400 i would look at the BroilKing and/or look at around at some of the HD's and see if they have any last year models (Ducane etc) lying around, assemble, sometimes in the garden section. you might score a nice $700-800 BBQ for under $400 (i saw it last year myself)
if you did want a super duper charcoal, the Weber Performer with Propane charcoal starting system, would be right in the price range. $399 reg price at HD, you wouldn't regret it. like i said, i have a NG Vermont Castings BBQ and a weber charcoal (basic Bar-B-Kettle, similar to the Silver line) and use the charcoal when i want to get great tasting food and the NG when i want quick food.
if i was starting over and could only have 1 x $400 BBQ, no doubt about it, i'd buy a Weber Performer. (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909220&Ntt=909220&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=112996&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber), but i'd buy it in GREEN (http://www.amazon.com/Weber-847001-22-5-Inch-Performer-Touch-N-Go/dp/B000659KDW), just check out the Amazon ratings, 180+ 5star ratings can't be wrong and again i can't stress this enough, buy LUMP CHARCOAL not the brickette charcoal that is full of chemicals. nice, clean burning charcoal can't be beat.
Nutella
Mar 25th, 2010, 08:11 PM
How much is this 'free' stuff really worth?
The propane model is going for $349 at Rona, which should generally mean $399 NG version.. so is this stuff really 'free'? Aside from the cover, you can probably grab the wok, brush, tongs, chicken roaster for $10 for the lot
http://www.rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-signet-20-propane-gas-barbecue-broil-king-385959_!broil-king_shop
edit - compared to the other models Rona carries, this place is $50 higher on all models
Rona NG BK Signet 20 is $449. Not $349. Call them. I cannot find this bbq for less than $449. So the 'free' stuff is better deal eh.
Bencherstyle
Mar 25th, 2010, 08:16 PM
NG BBQ's are great, i have one myself, but i don't think one in the $200-250 will last more then a year or 2 and even that, won't be a good bbq.
for $300-400 i would look at the BroilKing and/or look at around at some of the HD's and see if they have any last year models (Ducane etc) lying around, assemble, sometimes in the garden section. you might score a nice $700-800 BBQ for under $400 (i saw it last year myself)
if you did want a super duper charcoal, the Weber Performer with Propane charcoal starting system, would be right in the price range. $399 reg price at HD, you wouldn't regret it. like i said, i have a NG Vermont Castings BBQ and a weber charcoal (basic Bar-B-Kettle, similar to the Silver line) and use the charcoal when i want to get great tasting food and the NG when i want quick food.
if i was starting over and could only have 1 x $400 BBQ, no doubt about it, i'd buy a Weber Performer. (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909220&Ntt=909220&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=112996&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber), but i'd buy it in GREEN (http://www.amazon.com/Weber-847001-22-5-Inch-Performer-Touch-N-Go/dp/B000659KDW), just check out the Amazon ratings, 180+ 5star ratings can't be wrong and again i can't stress this enough, buy LUMP CHARCOAL not the brickette charcoal that is full of chemicals. nice, clean burning charcoal can't be beat.
hmm, isn't charcoal BBQ hard to maintain? the charcoal itself is one time use, the ashes, etc. other than that, i really like the Weber one, but it seems like people who has this as another NG or propane BBQ on the side.
i'm looking for more convenient i guess, and this is my first time looking into BBQS, which you've really expanded my knowledge on... thank you :)
what NG/Propane Gas in the 350-400 would you look at? Broil King?
shoppingkart
Mar 25th, 2010, 08:20 PM
hmm, isn't charcoal BBQ hard to maintain? the charcoal itself is one time use, the ashes, etc. other than that, i really like the Weber one, but it seems like people who has this as another NG or propane BBQ on the side.
i'm looking for more convenient i guess, and this is my first time looking into BBQS, which you've really expanded my knowledge on... thank you :)
what NG/Propane Gas in the 350-400 would you look at? Broil King?
Take a look at the Broil King Crown series or the Signet 20. NG models normally cost $50 more then propane.
Bencherstyle
Mar 25th, 2010, 08:45 PM
after much consideration, and research, and reviews; i decided to get the weber 400 dollar one. it really seems like a great grill; and the cleaning seems easy.
one question remains; how long does charcoal last in these?
Askari
Mar 25th, 2010, 09:10 PM
The Model is a Sovereign XL20 one sales person said it was a special model only available from stores that are Certified BBQ Experts and cost $699 just trying to figure if this is good or not
If that's the Natural Gas version then that's a really good deal.
I was quoted $850 for the XLS 20 and $950 for the XLS 90 which s pretty much identical
Except that the XLS 20 doesn't have the side burner, rotissierre, and the rear burner..
Where did you get that price from? Thx
brucered
Mar 25th, 2010, 09:53 PM
hmm, isn't charcoal BBQ hard to maintain? the charcoal itself is one time use, the ashes, etc. other than that, i really like the Weber one, but it seems like people who has this as another NG or propane BBQ on the side.
i'm looking for more convenient i guess, and this is my first time looking into BBQS, which you've really expanded my knowledge on... thank you :)
what NG/Propane Gas in the 350-400 would you look at? Broil King?
yes, charcoal is 1 time use. but the performer has an ash tray and cylinder holding system under the kettle to catch the ashes, so clean up should be quite easy. convenient yes, but not as convenient as NG or LG, but better tasting.
after much consideration, and research, and reviews; i decided to get the weber 400 dollar one. it really seems like a great grill; and the cleaning seems easy.
one question remains; how long does charcoal last in these?
last? i just cooked a giant pot of chili on my kettle and 1 chimeny starter full of lump charcoal lasted for the entire 1hr cook. i thru on a handful of unlit 1/2 thru and it probably stayed warm for hours past that.
when i cook steak, chicken, burgers or anything else on it, i can usually get buy with 1/2 a chimney starter full of charcoal.
good choice if you ask me. :razz:
WaltDisney
Mar 26th, 2010, 12:30 AM
after much consideration, and research, and reviews; i decided to get the weber 400 dollar one. it really seems like a great grill; and the cleaning seems easy.
one question remains; how long does charcoal last in these?
I find a chimney full (weber chimney) will last a one hour cook. Just toss in more charcoal whenever you need.
Once I'm done cooking, I just close all the vents to put out the coals. The remainder can be added to the next cook.
Performer's a good choice. Weber came out with a redesign this year, mainly asthetics though.
http://www.amazon.com/Weber-Stephen-1424001-Performer-Charcoal-Grill/dp/B002M1WEXG/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1269581597&sr=8-6
chandans
Mar 26th, 2010, 01:16 AM
Here are 2 under $400. Smaller and basic.
Broil King Monarch 10 ($369.99) NG model
http://barbecuesgalore.ca/cooking.bpsx?CookingID=2
Broil King Monarch 20 ($329.99) NG model
http://barbecuesgalore.ca/cooking.bpsx?CookingID=1
thanks! was looking for something with a bit more real estate tho...not avail in the ~400 price range?
WM sells a GRILLPRO made by the same people who make weber bbqs (onward mfging) for like $11. i used it all last year and now this year. works great, super gib and cheap.
thast the one, was sold out everywhere i went last year, never got a chance to get one
If the Weber Performer has a propane charcoal starter, you don't need a chimney starter. The only reason you'd use a chimney starter is if you ran out of propane.
chimney start was for my current small charcoal bbq. new house has a NG line outside, so I thought id hook it up with something decent.
starryiid1
Mar 26th, 2010, 05:01 AM
If that's the Natural Gas version then that's a really good deal.
I was quoted $850 for the XLS 20 and $950 for the XLS 90 which s pretty much identical
Except that the XLS 20 doesn't have the side burner, rotissierre, and the rear burner..
Where did you get that price from? Thx
I was given the price at CHL Barbecues in Whitby. I like the fact that you are not having to pay for extras, my last BBQ I never used the side burner
Askari
Mar 26th, 2010, 09:01 AM
I was given the price at CHL Barbecues in Whitby. I like the fact that you are not having to pay for extras, my last BBQ I never used the side burner
thanks. i just called them, they quoted me $749 NG for the XLS 20 and $949 for NG XLS 90..
starryiid1
Mar 26th, 2010, 10:15 AM
thanks. i just called them, they quoted me $749 NG for the XLS 20 and $949 for NG XLS 90..
I just double checked and it is the XLS 20 is from United Lumber Home Hardware in Oshawa that is $699 for the NG not sure what the XLS 90 was
Eldorado
Mar 26th, 2010, 10:17 AM
Rona NG BK Signet 20 is $449. Not $349. Call them. I cannot find this bbq for less than $449. So the 'free' stuff is better deal eh.
As I said, the PROPANE was $349 (and shown in my link).. a $100 markup to NG is too much
How much are the the propane -> NG conversion kits?
CheapoFillipo
Mar 26th, 2010, 10:29 AM
I DON'T WANT A SIDE BURNER!!!!!
who all of a sudden decided that this was the integral first add on for BBqs?
i'll never use it -and before someone says "yes you will"
no, i won't :)
I want a rotisserie though (back burner)
has anyone seen one (in NG) with the back burner but no side burner?
EDIT:
hey, just saw this at HH
http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I6421745/name/bbq_natural_gas_4brnr_ir_ult_chef
Napoleon Utra Chef for $699
or would i be better off with the Signet 90 for $649?
Nutella
Mar 26th, 2010, 10:43 AM
As I said, the PROPANE was $349 (and shown in my link).. a $100 markup to NG is too much
How much are the the propane -> NG conversion kits?
I know it's too much, but since 4 different places in GTA have the NG for $449, thats what it is. I wouldnt recommend the kit ($75 at Rona). Someone here mentioned you cant convert the BK's, it needs a different manifold for NG. Do you really want to meddle with the conversion kit stuff for the sake of maybe $30? I dont, that's why I'm looking for full NG straight up. But nobody has a worthy sale yet....
shoppingkart
Mar 26th, 2010, 10:56 AM
I DON'T WANT A SIDE BURNER!!!!!
who all of a sudden decided that this was the integral first add on for BBqs?
i'll never use it -and before someone says "yes you will"
no, i won't :)
I want a rotisserie though (back burner)
has anyone seen one (in NG) with the back burner but no side burner?
EDIT:
hey, just saw this at HH
http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I6421745/name/bbq_natural_gas_4brnr_ir_ult_chef
Napoleon Utra Chef for $699
or would i be better off with the Signet 90 for $649?
Broil King Signet 70
•Loads of heat (44,000 BTU’S) from 3 stainless steel Dual-Tube burners
•Convenient fold-down side shelves and enclosed storage cabinet
•15,000 BTU’S rear rotisserie burner and complete rotisserie kit
•400 square inch primary cooking area
•Linear Flow infinitely adjustable burner valves
•Deluxe Accu-temp thermometer
•Sure-Lite electronic ignition system
•Therma-Cast aluminum oven
•Assembled Dimensions: L58 1/2" X W 23" X H 50"
$549
Raddo
Mar 26th, 2010, 11:55 AM
Broil King Signet 70
•Loads of heat (44,000 BTU’S) from 3 stainless steel Dual-Tube burners
•Convenient fold-down side shelves and enclosed storage cabinet
•15,000 BTU’S rear rotisserie burner and complete rotisserie kit
•400 square inch primary cooking area
•Linear Flow infinitely adjustable burner valves
•Deluxe Accu-temp thermometer
•Sure-Lite electronic ignition system
•Therma-Cast aluminum oven
•Assembled Dimensions: L58 1/2" X W 23" X H 50"
$549
where is this from? :confused::D
shoppingkart
Mar 26th, 2010, 12:11 PM
where is this from? :confused::D
http://www.barbecuesgalore.ca/cooking.bpsx?CookingID=5
CheapoFillipo
Mar 26th, 2010, 12:37 PM
http://www.barbecuesgalore.ca/cooking.bpsx?CookingID=5
FTW!!!
AWESOME!!!
thanks shoppingkart!!!
I'm just going to check the Fiesta BBQ place ViperZ mention and then I'll be good to go (2 Walker Drive, Brampton, ON L6T 5E1, Canada) edit damn, only open mon-friday 8-4:30
I will cover off what I see there in case anyone is in the GTA but otherwise, barbecuesgalore will probably get my money.
curls00
Mar 26th, 2010, 12:46 PM
Broil King Signet 70
•Loads of heat (44,000 BTU’S) from 3 stainless steel Dual-Tube burners
•Convenient fold-down side shelves and enclosed storage cabinet
•15,000 BTU’S rear rotisserie burner and complete rotisserie kit
•400 square inch primary cooking area
•Linear Flow infinitely adjustable burner valves
•Deluxe Accu-temp thermometer
•Sure-Lite electronic ignition system
•Therma-Cast aluminum oven
•Assembled Dimensions: L58 1/2" X W 23" X H 50"
$549
Nevermind, didn't see that it was the NG model. Nothing to see here... continue on your way. ;)
Mepoor
Mar 28th, 2010, 01:13 PM
To clarify, the Broil King Signet 20 at Rona is now $349 regular price (not $399 as may have been a few weeks ago). Picked one up today. For the simple cooking I do I think this is best "value" for a basic BBQ at the moment. I would have preferred the Signet 70 at around the $450 range but couldn't find it anywhere in my area...
Shredder59
Mar 28th, 2010, 01:31 PM
Is $949 a good price on this Weber EP-310 Natural Gas BBQ?
http://www.sears.ca/product/weber-42k-genesis-ep-310-natural-gas-grill/50309300?ptag=1
I'm looking for a NG bbq with a stainless steel grill. Willing to spend up to about $1K.
jbarns
Mar 28th, 2010, 05:12 PM
To clarify, the Signet 20 at Rona is now $349 regular price (not $399 as may have been a few weeks ago). Picked one up today. For the simple cooking I do I think this is best "value" for a basic BBQ at the moment. I would have preferred the Signet 70 at around the $450 range but couldn't find it anywhere in my area...
got my one this weekend too, seems like a good deal for a solid bbq
jon-calgary
Mar 28th, 2010, 09:18 PM
got my one this weekend too, seems like a good deal for a solid bbq
I missed this one last year. I wanted to get the Signet 20 and found brand new for $250. By the time I decided to buy, sale was over. It was brand new and was just clearing the last item. I looked at Rona and it was really a nice bbq. But now, I decided to get the Q220 and just waiting for the sale. Lowest right now is at BBQ galore for $270, which incidentally just received their brochure. Signet 20 is $399 including the 12x12 wok topper, cover, 18" grill brush, stainless chicken roaster, and 15" tongs (free actually on all Signets).
AlphaCanus
Mar 29th, 2010, 06:05 AM
To clarify, the Signet 20 at Rona is now $349 regular price (not $399 as may have been a few weeks ago). Picked one up today. For the simple cooking I do I think this is best "value" for a basic BBQ at the moment. I would have preferred the Signet 70 at around the $450 range but couldn't find it anywhere in my area...
Pricing must be different in Ottawa because all along Rona has had it as 399 even on their website. Ended up picking one up yesterday. Many other stores that carry it are selling it for 449 around here.
Regardless it looks like a great BBQ and I look forward to using it (havent assembled it yet)
Nutella
Mar 29th, 2010, 08:36 AM
I got the Broil King Signet 20 (natural gas $449) at BarbequesGalore (oakville). Got the free stuff too. will assemble this week.
The burner + manifold assembly is already setup and fixed in the 'oven pit'. So really there is only the cover, cart, side tables to assemble. No meddling with the burners or connections.
smuPoker
Mar 29th, 2010, 08:43 AM
I got the Broil King Signet 20 (natural gas $449) at BarbequesGalore (oakville). Got the free stuff too. will assemble this week.
The burner + manifold assembly is already setup and fixed in the 'oven pit'. So really there is only the cover, cart, side tables to assemble. No meddling with the burners or connections.
I put mine together 2 weekends ago and it was super easy. I had a buddy helping me, just in case, and we took our time and it was about a 40 minute job. All of the screw holes lined up perfectly. It was a breeze to put together.
Plus it's a beauty bbq too.
jbarns
Mar 29th, 2010, 08:53 AM
I put mine together 2 weekends ago and it was super easy. I had a buddy helping me, just in case, and we took our time and it was about a 40 minute job. All of the screw holes lined up perfectly. It was a breeze to put together.
Plus it's a beauty bbq too.
I wouldn't say it was THAT easy, the only problem I had was there were no words and just pictures...
Everything did line up very well though, once I figured out what is what in the pictures.
And it is a very sexy bbq, I like the mix of SS and... Plastic?
I used it yesterday and got it up to 700f in 10 mins:) Steaks turned out excellent
RFDPants
Mar 29th, 2010, 01:14 PM
I wouldn't say it was THAT easy, the only problem I had was there were no words and just pictures...
Everything did line up very well though, once I figured out what is what in the pictures.
And it is a very sexy bbq, I like the mix of SS and... Plastic?
I used it yesterday and got it up to 700f in 10 mins:) Steaks turned out excellent
It's not Ikea-easy but it wasn't bad either. Would have been easier with smaller hands/fingers with a couple of the nuts/bolts but pretty straightforward and nothing missing (although I did end up with extra nuts/bolts - always disconcerting).
jbarns
Mar 29th, 2010, 01:26 PM
It's not Ikea-easy but it wasn't bad either. Would have been easier with smaller hands/fingers with a couple of the nuts/bolts but pretty straightforward and nothing missing (although I did end up with extra nuts/bolts - always disconcerting).
lol, so did I, two nuts and bolts. I found out I was supposed to put them on when fastening the bottom propane holder thing to the frame. I did 4 on the side but missed two in the middle.
By then I was getting frustrated already, didn't help that I was hungover though.. little patience.
khriz
Mar 29th, 2010, 06:06 PM
wow big thread, so im in need of a new bbq this year and so far by what i read im looking at the Broil King signet 20 at Rona for 349 and the Crown 10 at sears for 279 with coupon, would these be the best bang for my buck right now, or are there any other suggestions? do anyone see something better coming up in the near future?? any help would be appreciated.
jbarns
Mar 29th, 2010, 06:33 PM
wow big thread, so im in need of a new bbq this year and so far by what i read im looking at the Broil King signet 20 at Rona for 349 and the Crown 10 at sears for 279 with coupon, would these be the best bang for my buck right now, or are there any other suggestions? do anyone see something better coming up in the near future?? any help would be appreciated.
If you want a BK I can't see the prices getting any better. Signet 20 seems like the best bang for the buck since it has the 3 tube burners instead of the 2 super 8 burners.. not sure why tube is better but they say it is so..
shoppingkart
Mar 29th, 2010, 06:44 PM
If you want a BK I can't see the prices getting any better. Signet 20 seems like the best bang for the buck since it has the 3 tube burners instead of the 2 super 8 burners.. not sure why tube is better but they say it is so..
The 3 tube burner advantage is, that you have more flexibility to control temperature (3 zone) and/or provide even temperature across the bbq.
karlsberg
Mar 29th, 2010, 06:56 PM
just curious if they ever have any deals on propane tanks for BBQ's???
RayK
Mar 29th, 2010, 07:03 PM
I'm new to BBQ's, what would you people recommend:
Broil King Signet 20 from Rona for $349.99
or
Broil King Crown 40 from Sears for $359.99 ($20 coupon + $20 savings from buying gift cards with my credit card)
From my understanding the Signet 20 has a better burner but the Crown 40 has the side burner?
edifonzo
Mar 29th, 2010, 07:37 PM
I'm new to BBQ's, what would you people recommend:
Broil King Signet 20 from Rona for $349.99
or
Broil King Crown 40 from Sears for $359.99 ($20 coupon + $20 savings from buying gift cards with my credit card)
From my understanding the Signet 20 has a better burner but the Crown 40 has the side burner?
You know the differences, Make a decision. In my opinion the side burner is useless.
Get the Signet 20.
edifonzo
Mar 29th, 2010, 07:39 PM
The 3 tube burner advantage is, that you have more flexibility to control temperature (3 zone) and/or provide even temperature across the bbq.
Three zones are wasted on these smaller BBQ's. Just a way to differ the product line.
zoomzoom
Mar 29th, 2010, 10:22 PM
If you want a BK I can't see the prices getting any better. Signet 20 seems like the best bang for the buck since it has the 3 tube burners instead of the 2 super 8 burners.. not sure why tube is better but they say it is so..
I think the reasoning was that the super8 burners are more expensive to replace than the tube burners. Not sure if there is any difference in heat quality.
zoomzoom
Mar 29th, 2010, 10:26 PM
I missed this one last year. I wanted to get the Signet 20 and found brand new for $250. By the time I decided to buy, sale was over. It was brand new and was just clearing the last item. I looked at Rona and it was really a nice bbq. But now, I decided to get the Q220 and just waiting for the sale. Lowest right now is at BBQ galore for $270, which incidentally just received their brochure. Signet 20 is $399 including the 12x12 wok topper, cover, 18" grill brush, stainless chicken roaster, and 15" tongs (free actually on all Signets).
I'm also trying to decide by between the signet 20 and the Q300. The Q300 is suppose to be a very decent bbq (lots of 5 star reviews) that is also efficient on gas usage. Also, heat-up time is very quick and both have roughly the same cooking space (no warming rack on the Q). Anyone else had these 2 short-listed? Which one would be better?
deals newbie
Mar 30th, 2010, 06:59 AM
I'm new to BBQ and looking to get one this summer. I'm looking at the Weber charcoal grill series. Anybody got any experience with those and would you recommend those?
smuPoker
Mar 30th, 2010, 07:09 AM
I'm new to BBQ and looking to get one this summer. I'm looking at the Weber charcoal grill series. Anybody got any experience with those and would you recommend those?
Not trying to be an ass, but search in the thread. Weber charcoal grills have been discussed many, many, many, *MANY* times.
67mike
Mar 30th, 2010, 09:44 AM
I'm new to BBQ and looking to get one this summer. I'm looking at the Weber charcoal grill series. Anybody got any experience with those and would you recommend those?
I would get a Propane BBQ.:D
algrande
Mar 30th, 2010, 11:28 AM
I picked up the 'top-rated' Weber Genesis CEP-310 Natural Gas from Double Diamond Electronics Ltd. in Edmonton yesterday (found them listed as an authorized Weber dealer on a Weber dealer search. I thought it was a mistake as they have TVs, stereos, cables, etc....and BBQs)
The CEP-310 is the premium model not found in the box-stores -- 9mm stainless steel grates (twice the thickness of the standard grates); black porcelain lid; no side burner; stainless steel doors. Those 9mm grills are HUGE and heavy, and aren't found on the EP-310/320 or the S310/320. It's a Canada only premium model.
Anyway, after shopping for the past bit I could not get a deal on this BBQ at all -- no one would budge a cent. BBQ Country was asking $1149 for the 310; $1249 for the CEP-320.
I called up DD and they quoted $995 for the CEP-320; $950 for the CEP-310. I went to pick up the CEP-320 but they had just run out, so he let me have the CEP-310 for $920, which is $230 cheaper than BBQ Country's price and also beats what Sears / Home Depot / Home Hardware / etc. is selling the lower end models for (EP-310).
If you're looking for a Weber and that's the model you're after, you know it's a pretty good deal. (sweet-BBQ too)
I just bought the CEP-310 (NG) for $850 from DD. A $100 price drop from last year. This was only deal I could find on this BBQ in Canada.
Mepoor
Mar 30th, 2010, 11:35 AM
FYI - not sure if this has been stated already, but...
Rona also has a fairly basic Sterling BBQ (http://sterlingbbq.com/grills/grill_6.html)that comes with a rear rotisserie burner and NO SIDE BURNER for only for $289.
Granted, this unit is not too sexy looking... but maybe this is an option for those looking for a basic BBQ for under $300 with a rear rotisserie burner and not a side burner.
The aluminum oven casting has a life time warranty, and both the Dual-H and rear burner carry a 5-YEAR WARRANTY, and 2-yrs on everything else. Not too shabby for a sub $300 BBQ.
Model 445174 LP (http://sterlingbbq.com/grills/grill_6.html)• 44,000 BTU stainless steel Dual-H™ burner system
• 15,000 BTU stainless steel rear rotisserie burner
• Premium rotisserie kit included
• 700 sq. in. total cooking surface
• 400 sq. in. primary cooking surface
• Porcelain coated cast iron cooking grids
• Stainless steel Flav-R-Wave™ cooking system
• Linear Flow™ valves
• Accu-temp™ thermometer
• Sure-Lite™ electronic ignition system
• Uni-Cast™ aluminum oven
• Black chrome epoxy painted front panel and control panel
• Perma-Mold™ side shelves with integrated tool hooks
I currently have a 7 year old Sterling bbq that is still going strong. I had the dual-H burner replace under warranty in year 4 for free with no problems from Sterling. (I had the original receipt so the warranty process was smooth and flawless).
Just a thought...
Cheers :)
nounou23
Mar 30th, 2010, 12:02 PM
FYI - not sure if this has be stated already, but...
Rona also has a fairly basic Sterling BBQ (http://sterlingbbq.com/grills/grill_6.html)that comes with a rear rotisserie burner and NO SIDE BURNER for only for $289.
Granted, this unit is not too sexy looking... but maybe this is an option for those looking for a basic BBQ for under $300 with a rear rotisserie burner and not a side burner.
The aluminum oven casting has a life time warranty, and both the Dual-H and rear burner carry a 5-YEAR WARRANTY, and 2-yrs on everything else. Not too shabby for a sub $300 BBQ.
Model 445174 LP (http://sterlingbbq.com/grills/grill_6.html)• 44,000 BTU stainless steel Dual-H™ burner system
• 15,000 BTU stainless steel rear rotisserie burner
• Premium rotisserie kit included
• 700 sq. in. total cooking surface
• 400 sq. in. primary cooking surface
• Porcelain coated cast iron cooking grids
• Stainless steel Flav-R-Wave™ cooking system
• Linear Flow™ valves
• Accu-temp™ thermometer
• Sure-Lite™ electronic ignition system
• Uni-Cast™ aluminum oven
• Black chrome epoxy painted front panel and control panel
• Perma-Mold™ side shelves with integrated tool hooks
Just a thought...
Cheers :)
Wow that's not bad at all.
I've been shopping for a BBQ and I like this one. I'll have to contact my local rona to see if they can get it.
Thanks
curls00
Mar 30th, 2010, 12:14 PM
You won't be disappointed with the Sterling. We have a very basic one (260 square inch, no side burner, no rotisserie). It has the Dual-H burner and the cast aluminum oven. It is still going hot like day-1 and the burner is in great shape, and is 9 years old.
The only reason I'm looking at the Signet by Broil King is because its bigger andhas some features my old and small Sterling doesn't. I'd recommend the Sterling (with the cast aluminum oven) to anyone looking for that size of a bbq. Ours has been bulletproof and is the main reason I'm sticking with the OMC line of BBQ's (specifically the built-in Canada ones like the Broil King line, and like my Sterling once was).
nounou23
Mar 30th, 2010, 12:42 PM
One of my local Home Hardware have the Sterling 44516 and since it's the 2008-2009 model they would sell it to me for 239$
http://www.sterlingbbq.com/grills/grill_7.html
Is it a good deal?
Akaz1976
Mar 30th, 2010, 01:09 PM
I was about to pick up the signet 20 but now this sterling BBQ is being mentioned cheaper. What would be the difference between Signet 20 and Sterling BBQ?
jbarns
Mar 30th, 2010, 01:12 PM
I was about to pick up the signet 20 but now this sterling BBQ is being mentioned cheaper. What would be the difference between Signet 20 and Sterling BBQ?
signet 20:
* 44,000 BTU stainless steel Dual-Tube™ burner system
* 635 sq. in. total cooking surface including porcelain coated warming rack
* 400 sq. in. primary cooking surface
* Heavy duty porcelain coated cast iron cooking grids
* Stainless steel Flav-R-Wave™ cooking system
* Three stainless steel Dual-Tube™ burners
* Linear-Flow™ valves with 180° Sensi-Touch control
* Sure-Lite™ electronic ignition system
* Deluxe Accu-Temp™ thermometer
* Therma-Cast™ aluminum oven with stainless steel wrap
* Stainless steel cabinet doors and control panel
* Deluxe Perma-Mold™ drop down side shelves with integrated tool hooks and condiment bins
* Heavy duty cabinet with enclosed storage area
* 7" wheels with decorative white walls and 2.5" locking casters
* Rust resistant zinc coated steel components
* Quality epoxy paint finish
* Cool-To-The-Touch thermonylon handle
and no rotisserie
bf_ns
Mar 30th, 2010, 01:14 PM
I just picked up a two burner sterling 445154 from Kent for $199.99 (for work). I've had a sterling for years, not the most even heat but its predictable and not bad as a average BBQ. I bought a weber this year for home, its the chinese built BBQ but hoping I will like it.
prod
Mar 30th, 2010, 01:20 PM
I was thinking of the signet 20, but I was at home depot and their broil mate version looks the same to me, cast aluminum oven and iron grids, and its $299 regular price, $50 cheaper.
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
Inno
Mar 30th, 2010, 01:27 PM
Here is my Hot Deal: I found a Broil King Imperial for $175. This originally sold for $1,300 with tank, cover and taxes.
Super unit, works great.
Amazing what you can find at yard sales! The deals are out there.
hiker007
Mar 30th, 2010, 10:04 PM
I think the one from Walmart this week is good deal if people are looking for a simple/smaller one. It is only 98$ with side burner.
http://www.walmart.ca/details?assetId=61254&fromSearch=true
Brand: UNIFLAME
Burners Primary One 2-Section Burner 27,000 BTU
Side Stainless Steel 10,000 BTU
Cooking Area:Primary 300 sq. in./Warming 153 sq. in.
Cooking Grates:Primary Porcelain Plated Steel/Warming Chrome Plated Steel
Ignition Type Push Button
Warranty 1 Year Limited
Assembled Dimensions ( HxLxW ) Inches 40 H x 51.2 L x 23.2 W
another one is $149 from Zellers.
Grillmate 50,000 BTU BBQ - $149.99
40,000 BTU main burner, 10,000 BTU side burner. 551 sq. in. total cooking surface,
2 individual stainless steel burners, porcelain coated cooking grill, electronic ignition system (battery included).
Reg. $199.99
Nutella
Mar 31st, 2010, 06:25 AM
^ stay far away! thats junk
starryiid1
Mar 31st, 2010, 06:42 AM
I just purchased the Broil King Sovereign XLS 20 NG from Home Hardware of all places for $699 everywhere else was $50-$100 more. This thing is great and massive with 4 burners. I love it.
ahsun
Mar 31st, 2010, 08:48 AM
I was thinking of the signet 20, but I was at home depot and their broil mate version looks the same to me, cast aluminum oven and iron grids, and its $299 regular price, $50 cheaper.
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
I've been looking at the Broil Mate as well, but I think I'm gonna go with the BK instead (if I can get the NG one for $399 that is - basically spend $50 more for the Broil King instead of the NG version of the Broil Mate).
You can compare them side by side with these two links:
Broil King Signet 20 (http://www.broilkingbbq.com/2010/grillspecs.php?series=signet&grill=_20) & Broil Mate 115554 (which I assume is the same specs as HD's 116554) (http://www.broilmatebbq.com/grills/grill_5.html)
Differences include the burner design and the porcelain coated vs. uncoated cast iron grids. I've seen porcelain coated chip over time on a Weber, full cast iron seems more durable.
Akaz1976
Mar 31st, 2010, 09:02 AM
What needs to be purchased with a new BBQ (my first BBQ, Signet 20). Cover? tools? do teh BBQ come with these? is there a good deal on these things?
jbarns
Mar 31st, 2010, 09:07 AM
What needs to be purchased with a new BBQ (my first BBQ, Signet 20). Cover? tools? do teh BBQ come with these? is there a good deal on these things?
depends what you want to do, definitely a BBQ brush, cover is recommended, some BBQ tongs and a spatula. If you plan to slow cook then a drip pan, maybe a rib rack if you want to do a bunch of ribs..
lots of accessories you can buy:)
prod
Mar 31st, 2010, 09:52 AM
depends what you want to do, definitely a BBQ brush, cover is recommended, some BBQ tongs and a spatula. If you plan to slow cook then a drip pan, maybe a rib rack if you want to do a bunch of ribs..
lots of accessories you can buy:)
And dont forget the propane tank, they are $40-$60.
prod
Mar 31st, 2010, 09:57 AM
I've been looking at the Broil Mate as well, but I think I'm gonna go with the BK instead (if I can get the NG one for $399 that is - basically spend $50 more for the Broil King instead of the NG version of the Broil Mate).
You can compare them side by side with these two links:
Broil King Signet 20 (http://www.broilkingbbq.com/2010/grillspecs.php?series=signet&grill=_20) & Broil Mate 115554 (which I assume is the same specs as HD's 116554) (http://www.broilmatebbq.com/grills/grill_5.html)
Differences include the burner design and the porcelain coated vs. uncoated cast iron grids. I've seen porcelain coated chip over time on a Weber, full cast iron seems more durable.
No, the 116554 is different, probably exclusive to home depot, It has the dualtube burners, not the H style. It and the signet both look to have the porcelain coated cast iron grids as well. I would actually prefer them as I dont want to keep seasoning the uncoated iron ones.
weekend camper
Mar 31st, 2010, 10:50 AM
depends what you want to do, definitely a BBQ brush, cover is recommended, some BBQ tongs and a spatula. If you plan to slow cook then a drip pan, maybe a rib rack if you want to do a bunch of ribs..
lots of accessories you can buy:)
Also, keep your beer/pop cans for beer can chicken. You can buy holders at retail but they aren't really necessary.
Also a brass brush to clean the ashes off the grill.
ahsun
Mar 31st, 2010, 10:58 AM
No, the 116554 is different, probably exclusive to home depot, It has the dualtube burners, not the H style. It and the signet both look to have the porcelain coated cast iron grids as well. I would actually prefer them as I dont want to keep seasoning the uncoated iron ones.
oh, that's interesting that it has the dual tubes. Those seem to cost more apparently.
But I'm pretty sure the Signet doesn't have porcelain coating on the grids (according to the BK website and the one I saw at Rona recently - as far as I can remember).
Maybe it's not bad idea to go with the Broil Mate then.
Just wait till the anti-chinese part's people chime in accusing non-BK grills from Onward of containing Chinese made parts and how BK's contain only Canadian made parts. ;)
Nutella
Mar 31st, 2010, 11:01 AM
FYI Broil King signet cast iron grids are from China (which is a damn shame when the rest is CDN) It comes in a BBQ Genius branded box imported by OMC, the maker of BK. You can buy these separately too.
shoppingkart
Mar 31st, 2010, 11:27 AM
oh, that's interesting that it has the dual tubes. Those seem to cost more apparently.
But I'm pretty sure the Signet doesn't have porcelain coating on the grids (according to the BK website and the one I saw at Rona recently - as far as I can remember).
Maybe it's not bad idea to go with the Broil Mate then.
Just wait till the anti-chinese part's people chime in accusing non-BK grills from Onward of containing Chinese made parts and how BK's contain only Canadian made parts. ;)
SIGNET 20
986554 LP 986557 NG
•44,000 BTU stainless steel Dual-Tube™ burner system
•635 sq. in. total cooking surface including porcelain coated warming rack
•400 sq. in. primary cooking surface
•Heavy duty porcelain coated cast iron cooking grids
•Stainless steel Flav-R-Wave™ cooking system
•Three stainless steel Dual-Tube™ burners
•Linear-Flow™ valves with 180° Sensi-Touch control
•Sure-Lite™ electronic ignition system
•Deluxe Accu-Temp™ thermometer
•Therma-Cast™ aluminum oven with stainless steel wrap
•Stainless steel cabinet doors and control panel
•Deluxe Perma-Mold™ drop down side shelves with integrated tool hooks and condiment bins
•Heavy duty cabinet with enclosed storage area
•7" wheels with decorative white walls and 2.5" locking casters
•Rust resistant zinc coated steel components
•Quality epoxy paint finish
•Cool-To-The-Touch thermonylon handle
Nobody said BK does not contain some Chinese made parts. The B-K line is manufactured in Canada and some of the B-M line are not.
Akaz1976
Mar 31st, 2010, 11:39 AM
depends what you want to do, definitely a BBQ brush, cover is recommended, some BBQ tongs and a spatula. If you plan to slow cook then a drip pan, maybe a rib rack if you want to do a bunch of ribs..
lots of accessories you can buy:)
So it is:
BBQ Brush
BBQ Tong
Spatula
BBQ Cover
Propane Tank $40 - $60 (is there a size category?)
What prices would these be? I will be mostly just grilling burger patties, susages and corn to start and if i am feeling adventurous maybe a steak!
Akaz
jbarns
Mar 31st, 2010, 11:42 AM
So it is:
BBQ Brush
BBQ Tong
Spatula
BBQ Cover
Propane Tank $40 - $60 (is there a size category?)
What prices would these be? I will be mostly just grilling burger patties, susages and corn to start and if i am feeling adventurous maybe a steak!
Akaz
a decent cover is like 60 bucks I think
A decent brush, tong and spatula would run around 30 bucks I think.. there is usually sales on these things early and late season
Akaz1976
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:05 PM
BBQ Cover $15 (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/BBQCovers/PRDOVR~0853610P/Non-Woven%252BBarbecue%252BCover.jsp)(figure just has to keep rain out so no need to go hifi)
or with lining $25 (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/BBQCovers/PRDOVR~0853612P/Lined%252BBarbecue%252BCover.jsp)
BBQ Brush with scraper $4 (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/BBQBrushesCleaners/PRDOVR~0851201P/Master%252BChef%252BBBQ%252BBrush%25252C%252B18-in.jsp) (is there a risk of scratching grill etc?)
BBQ 5 pc tool set $20 (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/BBQToolsPreparation/PRDOVR~0851784P/Master%252BChef%252B5-Pc%252BTool%252BSet.jsp)
or replace above two with 16 pc BBQ Tool set $40 (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/BBQToolsPreparation/PRDOVR~0851796P/BBQ%252BTool%252BSet%25252C%252B16-Piece.jsp)
shoppingkart
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:18 PM
BBQ Cover $15 (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/BBQCovers/PRDOVR~0853610P/Non-Woven%252BBarbecue%252BCover.jsp)(figure just has to keep rain out so no need to go hifi)
or with lining $25 (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/BBQCovers/PRDOVR~0853612P/Lined%252BBarbecue%252BCover.jsp)
BBQ Brush with scraper $4 (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/BBQBrushesCleaners/PRDOVR~0851201P/Master%252BChef%252BBBQ%252BBrush%25252C%252B18-in.jsp) (is there a risk of scratching grill etc?)
BBQ 5 pc tool set $20 (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/BBQToolsPreparation/PRDOVR~0851784P/Master%252BChef%252B5-Pc%252BTool%252BSet.jsp)
or replace above two with 16 pc BBQ Tool set $40 (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/BBQToolsPreparation/PRDOVR~0851796P/BBQ%252BTool%252BSet%25252C%252B16-Piece.jsp)
How about a good BBQ recipes book?:cheesygri
Akaz1976
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:23 PM
How about a good BBQ recipes book?:cheesygri
BBQ Recipes $0 (http://www.canadianliving.com/recipe-directory/preparation_method/bbqgrill.php)
smuPoker
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:39 PM
BBQ Cover $15 (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/BBQCovers/PRDOVR~0853610P/Non-Woven%252BBarbecue%252BCover.jsp)(figure just has to keep rain out so no need to go hifi)
What's the point of buying a great bbq if you're not going to make sure it gets taken care of?
In my opinion, you should definitely spend some proper money on a cover.
jbarns
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:42 PM
What's the point of buying a great bbq if you're not going to make sure it gets taken care of?
In my opinion, you should definitely spend some proper money on a cover.
ditto, from experience those covers just rip right away when you have a good wind blast.
Akaz1976
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:45 PM
What's the point of buying a great bbq if you're not going to make sure it gets taken care of?
In my opinion, you should definitely spend some proper money on a cover.
Agreed. I am not averse to buying a good cover (or other better accessories). What i would like to know is what would spending extra ~$40 on a more expensive cover get me? I am looking for good value for money not necessarily the cheapest alternative.
For example, i would go for cast iron skewers (once i find them) as they retain heat better than steel ones (AFIK).
Similarly i would like to know the advantage of spending more on a scrubbing brush for a BBQ? same for tong/flipper etc!
Akaz1976
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:46 PM
ditto, from experience those covers just rip right away when you have a good wind blast.
Dang you posted while i writing my last post. good point, i will check of durability.
jbarns
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:49 PM
Agreed. I am not averse to buying a good cover (or other better accessories). What i would like to know is what would spending extra ~$40 on a more expensive cover get me? I am looking for good value for money not necessarily the cheapest alternative.
For example, i would go for cast iron skewers (once i find them) as they retain heat better than steel ones (AFIK).
Similarly i would like to know the advantage of spending more on a scrubbing brush for a BBQ? same for tong/flipper etc!
I haven't had enough experience with the scrubber, I just buy cheap brushes for like $3-4 every year
the more expensive covers will almost last the length of the BBQ
Spatula doesn't need to be anything fancy, tongs needs to be decent or they just break right away.
mr_clark
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:00 PM
Anybody have any thoughts on the Cal Spa BBQs?
They seem to be more targeted at mounting in an outdoor kitchen but they do have some models with their own carts. I can't seem to find any details on warranty, etc. A couple of their models seem to be in the same price range as the Broil King or Weber models.
http://www.calflamebbq.com
curls00
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:16 PM
Signet 20 dropped $50 to $349 at Rona this week. I wonder if they'll cut a deal for the Signet 90 (reg. $549). Anyone know if Rona is accepting, even sometimes, of matching or beating their own deals to sell a more expensive model? I'm looking to see if I can get the Signet 90 for under $475... anyone know if its possible without waiting for end-of-season clearouts?
Akaz1976
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:29 PM
Signet 20 dropped $50 to $399 at Rona this week. I wonder if they'll cut a deal for the Signet 90 (reg. $549). Anyone know if Rona is accepting, even sometimes, of matching or beating their own deals to sell a more expensive model? I'm looking to see if I can get the Signet 90 for under $475... anyone know if its possible without waiting for end-of-season clearouts?
Hang on. Signet 20 (propane) is suppose to be $349.99 at rona, did the price go up?
jbarns
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:30 PM
Hang on. Signet 20 (propane) is suppose to be $349.99 at rona, did the price go up?
its still $350 its even front page in the flyer
bulls
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:37 PM
Ive used the dollar store tongs for ovr 2years for bbq and
kitchen still no problems. Just get long enough tools to keep
ur arms away frm the heat. Splurge a little on a cover and save
ur money when buying tools.
curls00
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:44 PM
Hang on. Signet 20 (propane) is suppose to be $349.99 at rona, did the price go up?
Sorry my mistake, it was $399, now $349 according to the flyer.
WindsorJulien
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:53 PM
Signet 20 dropped $50 to $349 at Rona this week. I wonder if they'll cut a deal for the Signet 90 (reg. $549). Anyone know if Rona is accepting, even sometimes, of matching or beating their own deals to sell a more expensive model? I'm looking to see if I can get the Signet 90 for under $475... anyone know if its possible without waiting for end-of-season clearouts?
You can get the Signet 90 at Home Hardware for $499 (save $150) according to their latest flyer. I ended up going with the Signet 20 for $350 from Rona. Solid BBQ. Figured I didn't need to pay $150 for a rotisserie and sideburner that I would rarely use (I'll can always grab a Zehrs roasted chicken if I feel the urge for that type of thing)
orion_pax
Mar 31st, 2010, 02:40 PM
Anyone have thoughts on the Master Chef T480 that is going on sale at Canadian Tire this week for 25% off? ($399.99 to $299.99)
My budget on a BBQ is around $300 or lower.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/PropaneBBQs/PRDOVR~0853100P/Master%252BChef%252BT480%252BPropane%252BBBQ.jsp
jbarns
Mar 31st, 2010, 02:45 PM
Anyone have thoughts on the Master Chef T480 that is going on sale at Canadian Tire this week for 25% off? ($399.99 to $299.99)
My budget on a BBQ is around $300 or lower.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/BBQsAccessories/PropaneBBQs/PRDOVR~0853100P/Master%252BChef%252BT480%252BPropane%252BBBQ.jsp
much better bang for buck, don't buy CT bbqs
http://rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-propane-gas-barbecue-sterling-441483_sterling_propane-gas-barbecues_barbecues_summer-seasonal_shop
JuNGleR72
Mar 31st, 2010, 03:06 PM
Off topic Q:
I have 2 propane tanks that I have no use for..
(my bbq is broken and no use buying parts since its pricey, so i am going to switch over to natural gas line bbq units)
Is there anywhere I can return them for some $$??
1 is empty and the other is about 3/4 - 1/2 full
mr_clark
Mar 31st, 2010, 03:10 PM
Well, I bit the bullet and bought myself the Weber CEP-320 NG from a local specialty shop. Probably could've gotten it a little cheaper somewhere else but I like to support local companies and they threw in a free $100 cover.
But of course I did it bassackwards and won't have my NG hooked up outside until next week.
Phoenix3434
Mar 31st, 2010, 03:16 PM
Related question guys - where would I buy wood pellets to use in the BBQ? I want to make some wood smoke :). Gonna wrap it in some tin foil and put it under the grill. Should work right?
Thinking of buying the Broil King Signet 20.
jbarns
Mar 31st, 2010, 03:19 PM
Off topic Q:
I have 2 propane tanks that I have no use for..
(my bbq is broken and no use buying parts since its pricey, so i am going to switch over to natural gas line bbq units)
Is there anywhere I can return them for some $$??
1 is empty and the other is about 3/4 - 1/2 full
local buy and sell site? kijiji?
Related question guys - where would I buy wood pellets to use in the BBQ? I want to make some wood smoke :). Gonna wrap it in some tin foil and put it under the grill. Should work right?
Thinking of buying the Broil King Signet 20.
anywhere where they sell bbq's they sell chips. Should work great.. a lot of people soak SOME of the chips in water for 15-30 mins too..
Pyrolistical
Mar 31st, 2010, 03:22 PM
Do the Webber Q series ever go on sale?
I am interested in getting one
Phoenix3434
Mar 31st, 2010, 03:31 PM
anywhere where they sell bbq's they sell chips. Should work great.. a lot of people soak SOME of the chips in water for 15-30 mins too..
Excellent! I was searching with the keyword "wood pellets" and nothing turned up. "Wood chips" is the magic word :).
Home Depot has Mesquite, Apple, and Hickory - what do you guys think is best based on your preference?
Btw, I also saw this smoker box in HD:
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=946110&Ntt=946110&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
How do I use this? Do I put this "above" or "below" the grill in the BK Signet 20?
Thx.
itr452
Mar 31st, 2010, 03:43 PM
i think canadian tire is the cheapest for the wood chips, it shoudl be 5 dollars a bag
i use a combo of hickory and apple when smoking pork shoulder, ribs, and beef brisket, it really depends on your taste
i bought one of those smoker boxes, i put them on top of the flavorizer bars
drb789
Mar 31st, 2010, 04:04 PM
Home Depot has Mesquite, Apple, and Hickory - what do you guys think is best based on your preference?
I've always preferred chips from fruit trees - apple preferred
curls00
Mar 31st, 2010, 04:35 PM
You can get the Signet 90 at Home Hardware for $499 (save $150) according to their latest flyer. I ended up going with the Signet 20 for $350 from Rona. Solid BBQ. Figured I didn't need to pay $150 for a rotisserie and sideburner that I would rarely use (I'll can always grab a Zehrs roasted chicken if I feel the urge for that type of thing)
Thanks a LOT for the heads up on the sale! Although its only savings of $50 vs the Rona everyday price, its still a sale and something I can take to Rona to PM, or, go to Home Hardware and give them some business.
I do want the rotisserie (savings of $5-$10 per rotisserie meal should pay it off in no time, and I will use it frequently anyhow), and need the side burner (two reasons: in case of power outage, and in case I don't want to boil corn or do a side dish inside while also cooking outside). :)
Thanks again!
tylerc
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:37 PM
I would highly recommend everyone stay far away from Napoleon. I have one of their #*$&# chinese bbqs from Canadian Tire, which has been full of problems. Up until now Napoleon has warrantied it quite well until my latest IR burner cracked and they have decided to make up warranty terms! I've asked to be shown in writing where their policy is because my manual says:
Components such as stainless steel sear plates, stainless steel cooking grids, valves with ignition system, temperature gauges, knobs, ceramic infrared burners are covered and Napoleon will provide parts free of charge during the first two years of the limited warranty.
But, customer care now says the following after contacting them to get a replacement (it will be my 4th replacement):
Sorry Tyler,
If you wish to order the infra red burner then please call our customer care line. Unfortunately, it is no longer covered under the warranty. Our warranty is not unlike any other one in the industry and replacement parts are covered for 90 days only.
I respond with:
Can I ask where I can see this in writing? I've had it replaced a number of times before, likely outside of the 90 day window. As far as I can tell from the manual the warranty is for 2 years on the IR burner, not 2 yrs on the first and 90 days on the rest.
Their response:
Tyler,
You will not be given an infra red burner under the warranty. As stated if you wish to purchase one please call and order it!
Thanks
The timeline for this is almost 2 full weeks...the grill is less than 2 years old, and I've had other IR burners replaced after 90 days (not 100% sure on that, but pretty sure).
If anyone is interested in hearing about my other dealings with them, pm me. For now, I will fight this...any ideas? Or am I in the wrong and 2 years warranty really does mean 90 days warranty after your first replacement??
:confused:
rename
Mar 31st, 2010, 06:24 PM
Hi Guys,
I need an opinion about this bbq, anyone has it? any comments on this price range that I should or should not consider this one?
Thanks in advance
Cuisinart Gourmet C550S Propane BBQ
http://tinyurl.com/ylr6p4j
http://www.cuisinartbbqs.com/images/c550s_pic01.jpg
briguy_78
Mar 31st, 2010, 08:05 PM
Anyone know where to get a good price on a Big Green Egg locally or have any experiences purchasing in the US and bring back to Canada?
Thx,
Brian
blazerzr2
Mar 31st, 2010, 09:53 PM
Anyone know where to get a good price on a Big Green Egg locally or have any experiences purchasing in the US and bring back to Canada?
Thx,
Brian
You can go to Ontario Gas BBQ. They're located in Vaughan. Hwy 400 and Langstaff I believe.
Here's the link: http://www.bbqs.com/
Cheers.
rcthorne
Mar 31st, 2010, 10:06 PM
Anyone know where to get a good price on a Big Green Egg locally or have any experiences purchasing in the US and bring back to Canada?
Thx,
Brian
I just picked one up in New Hampshire and brought it back to NS couple weeks ago. Was in the area anyways, and no sales tax to boot....$699 USD is what it cost me
shoppingkart
Mar 31st, 2010, 10:12 PM
Thanks a LOT for the heads up on the sale! Although its only savings of $50 vs the Rona everyday price, its still a sale and something I can take to Rona to PM, or, go to Home Hardware and give them some business.
I do want the rotisserie (savings of $5-$10 per rotisserie meal should pay it off in no time, and I will use it frequently anyhow), and need the side burner (two reasons: in case of power outage, and in case I don't want to boil corn or do a side dish inside while also cooking outside). :)
Thanks again!
After retiring my 14years old BK Regal, I picked up the Signet 90 NG for $550+tax from Home Hardware. Personally I prefer the Stainless steel shelves from HH and not the plastic ones from Rona. Now I need to find a nice new cover for a good price. :)
Daboss
Mar 31st, 2010, 10:13 PM
Has anyone heard if Home Depot is going to be having a big sale like they had last year at the start of summer?
Tank79
Mar 31st, 2010, 10:51 PM
I love this thread! I'm looking at buying a bbq this week. I was going to go with the Signet 20 for $349. It looks like the Broil-Mate and the Sterling versions are basically the same though for $299.
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113002%204294966832&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
http://rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-propane-gas-barbecue-sterling-441483_sterling_propane-gas-barbecues_barbecues_summer-seasonal_shop
There isn't much info on the Sterling model but it appears the same. Does anyone have any expertise on which model/manufacturer is better? Thanks for your help!
jed
Apr 1st, 2010, 01:01 AM
The Search button on this forum, Rocks!;)
DTOM
Apr 1st, 2010, 01:07 AM
After retiring my 14years old BK Regal, I picked up the Signet 90 NG for $550+tax from Home Hardware. Personally I prefer the Stainless steel shelves from HH and not the plastic ones from Rona. Now I need to find a nice new cover for a good price. :)
Which HH did you get it from? I guess it didn't come with any extras? Do you know how much they're selling the Signet 20 NG and 70 NG for?
Thanks.
shoppingkart
Apr 1st, 2010, 07:13 AM
Which HH did you get it from? I guess it didn't come with any extras? Do you know how much they're selling the Signet 20 NG and 70 NG for?
Thanks.
I got it from HH in Milton, it's on sale till Saturday. No extras and I don't know the price on the 20 or 70.
brucered
Apr 1st, 2010, 07:20 AM
perhaps it's time to start or split this thread up. it's been over 100pgs and dates back to the start of the 09 season.
doing a search on this thread brings up all dead deals from last year.
:confused:
smuPoker
Apr 1st, 2010, 07:31 AM
For doing wood chips, I soak the chips for about 30 mins beforehand, and I use 2 parts wet, 1 part dry in the smoke pack.
lemmings
Apr 1st, 2010, 08:17 AM
I had done some price shopping (and eventual purchase) of a Large Big Green Egg in the fall. Vendor's aren't allowed to post prices online, prices may have changed, and there isn't much variability in pricing, but
Sobie's - Egg, nest (support with wheels), shelves, cover, grill gripper
and ash tool. The cost is $1599.99
Ont BBQ - The Large Egg is $1,099.99.
The Nest, (stand with wheels) is 139.99.
This price includes a 20 lb. bag of BGE charcoal, the ash cleaning tool, a box of fire starters and the DVD.
Classic Fireplace - $1159 with the nest, I got it for $1,000 without the nest.
Also, regarding covers - I had a custom made cover for my Big Green Egg Table (4.5 feet long) from cuvers.ca. Was $112 including tax and shipping. Pricier than store bought, but very heavy duty material, 2 nice big zippers, velcro closes, custom fit, choice of colours, made in Ontario, good service. It would have to be a tornado for there to even be a chance for this puppy to tear in the wind. Very happy.
tckr
Apr 1st, 2010, 08:26 AM
perhaps it's time to start or split this thread up. It's been over 100pgs and dates back to the start of the 09 season.
Doing a search on this thread brings up all dead deals from last year.
:confused:
+1
CheapoFillipo
Apr 1st, 2010, 09:12 AM
+1
++1
yes
i'm that kind of guy [some may say "jerk"] to say "i told you so" back at post #1131 (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/10402955-post1131/)
the "search this thread" is your friend but relatively useless when looking for current deals... end of season stuff just angers me that i didn't buy last year
tupek
Apr 1st, 2010, 09:16 AM
Picked up the Signet 90 from Dickson HH (Avenue & 401) for $549.
Pretty good deal in my opinion for a reg price $649 BBQ.
One thing that is intriguing about that store is that they have an early bird special (i.e. right now), where they give you extras in terms of accessories/service to spend in their BBQ store.
For example, if I bought the Signet 90 for $649 (at their reg. price), they throw in $70 worth of "stuff", which can be put toward assembly service ($30), bbq cover, utensils, etc.
If the Signet 90 wasn't on sale, I would have gone for this deal over anything else out there right now.
jbarns
Apr 1st, 2010, 09:25 AM
Which HH did you get it from? I guess it didn't come with any extras? Do you know how much they're selling the Signet 20 NG and 70 NG for?
Thanks.
signet 90 NG is on sale for $600 reg $700
http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I6421713/name/bbq_natural_gas_3brnr_sgnet90_635
they actually have a decent website, never been to it before:)
Phoenix3434
Apr 1st, 2010, 09:46 AM
the "search this thread" is your friend but relatively useless when looking for current deals... end of season stuff just angers me that i didn't buy last year
Well the "search" in redflagdeals is not the best. BUTT..
There IS our good friend google.
Searching within just the RFD domain:
e.g.: "[merged] bbq deals thread" site:redflagdeals.com
This will give you queries just from within this site.
If you want to search posts within a particular date (just last month):
Add the following to the resulting URL: &tbs=qdr:m
Stands for "query date range". m = month, w = week, y = year.
Alternatively, you can just go to the google advanced page and just fill the domain + date into the form fields.
http://www.google.ca/advanced_search?hl=en
curls00
Apr 1st, 2010, 09:50 AM
signet 90 NG is on sale for $600 reg $700
http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I6421713/name/bbq_natural_gas_3brnr_sgnet90_635
they actually have a decent website, never been to it before:)
It's $549 for the NG one (at least here in Ottawa and online).
jbarns
Apr 1st, 2010, 10:13 AM
It's $549 for the NG one (at least here in Ottawa and online).
really? neat, I guess price does matter per area, I just double checked my link and its 599
CheapoFillipo
Apr 1st, 2010, 10:14 AM
Well the "search" in redflagdeals is not the best. BUTT..
There IS our good friend google.
Searching within just the RFD domain:
e.g.: "[merged] bbq deals thread" site:redflagdeals.com
[etc]
Alternatively, you can just go to the google advanced page and just fill the domain + date into the form fields.
http://www.google.ca/advanced_search?hl=en
AWESOME.. i had no idea, thanks
alternatively, having a new thread for 2010 deals would do the same job :)
no more from me on that topic
I was jazzed about the Signet until i saw one in store (home hardware)... it's a little small for me (cooking area) i think i am going to a Sovereign.
now i just have to wait for a sale :(
shoppingkart
Apr 1st, 2010, 10:15 AM
It's $549 for the NG one (at least here in Ottawa and online).
It's same price ($549) at every HH store (Ontario)
Eldorado
Apr 1st, 2010, 10:35 AM
Picked up the Signet 90 from Dickson HH (Avenue & 401) for $549.
Pretty good deal in my opinion for a reg price $649 BBQ.
One thing that is intriguing about that store is that they have an early bird special (i.e. right now), where they give you extras in terms of accessories/service to spend in their BBQ store.
For example, if I bought the Signet 90 for $649 (at their reg. price), they throw in $70 worth of "stuff", which can be put toward assembly service ($30), bbq cover, utensils, etc.
If the Signet 90 wasn't on sale, I would have gone for this deal over anything else out there right now.
You bought it for $549? It's on sale for $499.. you could go to Rona and get a price match for a bit cheaper - unless you meant the NG one?
Quick Q to all.. other than larger cooking area, any reason to go up to the Sovereign 90?
tupek
Apr 1st, 2010, 10:40 AM
You bought it for $549? It's on sale for $499.. you could go to Rona and get a price match for a bit cheaper
Quick Q to all.. other than larger cooking area, any reason to go up to the Sovereign 90?
LP is $499, NG is $549.
The only other reason is the stainless steel cooking grates.
shoppingkart
Apr 1st, 2010, 10:41 AM
You bought it for $549? It's on sale for $499.. you could go to Rona and get a price match for a bit cheaper - unless you meant the NG one?
Quick Q to all.. other than larger cooking area, any reason to go up to the Sovereign 90?
Most likely he got the NG model
Raddo
Apr 1st, 2010, 11:05 AM
hey guys and gals! I am looking for a bbq since the weather is getting nice and have tried reading back a couple of pages for some insight. I'm looking towards the NG BK signet/sovereign 90, mainly for the cooking space. I do not need a side burner but do want a rotisserre/infared sear zone. Not too sure which burner type is better, i.e. H style/dual/infinity 8? Any comments/suggestions would be greatly appreciated?! Tia, cheers! :D
Newtown
Apr 1st, 2010, 02:24 PM
Do the Webber Q series ever go on sale?
I am interested in getting one
They went on sale around this time last year at Sears. Saw them recently at HD and CT and none of the models were on sale.
Tjay
Apr 2nd, 2010, 10:28 AM
So I've scoured this thread, but come up with nothing conclusive.
I'm looking for a propane grill around 300 but don't know much about them.
Any thoughts on these 3?
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113002%204294966832&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
http://rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-propane-gas-barbecue-sterling-441483_sterling_propane-gas-barbecues_barbecues_summer-seasonal_shop
http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309060?ptag=1
I've heard good things about Broil King, but this model doesn't have porcelein coated grills - does it matter?
any help would be much appreciated!
Tjay
Apr 2nd, 2010, 10:39 AM
Sorry - Porcelain-coated, grids, not burners
I've also found this at Zellers:
GRILL MATE® 50,000 BTU Barbecue
$249.99
•3 Stainless steel tube burners
•40,000 BTU main burner
•10,000 BTU side burner
•680 sq. in. total cooking surface
•Electronic ignition (battery included).
any thoughts?
shoppingkart
Apr 2nd, 2010, 12:55 PM
So I've scoured this thread, but come up with nothing conclusive.
I'm looking for a propane grill around 300 but don't know much about them.
Any thoughts on these 3?
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113002%204294966832&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
http://rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-propane-gas-barbecue-sterling-441483_sterling_propane-gas-barbecues_barbecues_summer-seasonal_shop
http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309060?ptag=1
I've heard good things about Broil King, but this model doesn't have porcelein coated grills - does it matter?
any help would be much appreciated!
I would buy the BK from Sears and you can also use one of these coupons. This BBQ comes with porcelain coated grills.
http://coupons.redflagdeals.com/index.php/search/?q=sears&near=
curls00
Apr 2nd, 2010, 01:15 PM
Sorry - Porcelain-coated, grids, not burners
I've also found this at Zellers:
GRILL MATE® 50,000 BTU Barbecue
$249.99
•3 Stainless steel tube burners
•40,000 BTU main burner
•10,000 BTU side burner
•680 sq. in. total cooking surface
•Electronic ignition (battery included).
any thoughts?
Compared to a Broil King? It's not worth it.
smuPoker
Apr 2nd, 2010, 01:27 PM
hey guys and gals! I am looking for a bbq since the weather is getting nice and have tried reading back a couple of pages for some insight. I'm looking towards the NG BK signet/sovereign 90, mainly for the cooking space. I do not need a side burner but do want a rotisserre/infared sear zone. Not too sure which burner type is better, i.e. H style/dual/infinity 8? Any comments/suggestions would be greatly appreciated?! Tia, cheers! :D
If you don't care about a side burner, the BK Signet/Sovereign 70s will do the trick. They have the infrared rotisserie burner, but no side burner. The Sovereigns are bigger than the Signets as well.
Signet 70: http://www.broilkingbbq.com/2010/grillspecs.php?series=signet&grill=_70
Sovereign 70: http://www.broilkingbbq.com/2010/grillspecs.php?series=sovereign&grill=_70
diehardfan
Apr 2nd, 2010, 01:34 PM
If you don't care about a side burner, the BK Signet/Sovereign 70s will do the trick. They have the infrared rotisserie burner, but no side burner. The Sovereigns are bigger than the Signets as well.
Signet 70: http://www.broilkingbbq.com/2010/grillspecs.php?series=signet&grill=_70
Sovereign 70: http://www.broilkingbbq.com/2010/grillspecs.php?series=sovereign&grill=_70
None of Broil King bbq have infrared burners, the rotisserie burners are regular gas burners. Just a heads up.
Phoenix3434
Apr 2nd, 2010, 02:23 PM
I went out and got myself a Broil King Signet 20 yesterday from Rona! :)
The darn box wouldn't fit in my car, so me and the Rona guy just took everything apart in the box and stuffed it in my car and broke the box.
Assembly was a little bit a pain b/c I have large hands. A few of the screw holes were tough for me to get to. And a few of the edges were pretty sharp. If I had smaller hands, maybe it would've been ok! That said, I put it together yesterday night itself in my garage. Lighted up the baby, and it was working!
Took it to my backyard today, put in a smoke box with some hickory chips, and did some chicken and some nice sausage. Pretty nice!
Went up to my bedroom and looked down to admire my Signet 20, and I just noticed that 3 of my neighbors have very expensive looking Napoleans. lol! That being said, I love my BK! :D.
isitin
Apr 2nd, 2010, 03:02 PM
Here are 2 under $400. Smaller and basic.
Broil King Monarch 10 ($369.99) NG model
http://barbecuesgalore.ca/cooking.bpsx?CookingID=2
Broil King Monarch 20 ($329.99) NG model
http://barbecuesgalore.ca/cooking.bpsx?CookingID=1
Those were two poor recommendations. Go for a Crown 20 Nat gas $399.
http://www.broilkingbbq.com/2010/grillspecs.php?series=crown&grill=_20http://www.broilkingbbq.com/2010/images/subpgs/grills/lrg/crown20.jpg
isitin
Apr 2nd, 2010, 03:06 PM
I've read about seasoning your grills a bit on here and a bit elsewhere. I did not season mine for my Signet 20 before I used them since the manual didn't instruct me to.
Should I season them before the next time I use them?
Seasoning Cast Iron Grids: Spread a thin coating of cooking oil ( Vegetable, Olive, Peanut, Canola, Sunflower) over entire surface of the cast iron grids with a paper towel. Be certain the entire surface, including all corners, has been coated thoroughly. DO NOT use salted fat such as margarine or butter. Never use non-stick sprays to season your grids, as they just don't work. They burn off at a really low heat and do not protect the grids well.
Preheat barbecue for 10 minutes on HIGH. Turn burners to MEDIUM with lid closed. Allow barbecue to heat for 30 minutes. Turn all burners to OFF. Leave cooking grids in barbecue until they are cool. Your cast iron grids are now ready to use.
Reseasoning: After each use the grids should be reseasoned by coating with a cooking oil, closing the lid and leaving the cast iron grids in the barbecue until it is cool.
Storage: When Barbecue is not in use for long periods of time, store cast iron grids in a dry warm place.
isitin
Apr 2nd, 2010, 03:10 PM
I contacted this place. http://barbecuesgalore.ca/
They have Broil King Signet 20 NG model $449
Includes: free Cover, Wok Topper, Brush, Tongs and Chicken Roaster
All those accessories are no name, they are not the Bbq Genius originals.
isitin
Apr 2nd, 2010, 03:22 PM
The Model is a Sovereign XL20 one sales person said it was a special model only available from stores that are Certified BBQ Experts and cost $699 just trying to figure if this is good or not
This is a great bbq for the money & yes $699 is for the propane model.
encinc
Apr 2nd, 2010, 03:30 PM
Go for a Crown 20 Nat gas $399.
http://www.broilkingbbq.com/2010/grillspecs.php?series=crown&grill=_20http://www.broilkingbbq.com/2010/images/subpgs/grills/lrg/crown20.jpg
We were in the same boat. Looking for a Nat Gas model under $500 including taxes and cover. Bought the Crown 20 and we love it. Sure, the dual tube burners of the Signet 20 would have been nice, but the Signet put us over our price range right now, and the Crown burner delivers nice even heat. Bought the BBQ two weeks ago and have used it at least 5 times since then. Not bad for early April.
isitin
Apr 2nd, 2010, 03:32 PM
I was given the price at CHL Barbecues in Whitby. I like the fact that you are not having to pay for extras, my last BBQ I never used the side burner
Great place that CHL Barbecues in Whitby.........
isitin
Apr 2nd, 2010, 03:49 PM
Is $949 a good price on this Weber EP-310 Natural Gas BBQ?
http://www.sears.ca/product/weber-42k-genesis-ep-310-natural-gas-grill/50309300?ptag=1
I'm looking for a NG bbq with a stainless steel grill. Willing to spend up to about $1K.
Spend the extra $100 & get the premium line of the Genesis grill. So for $1049 you get the s/s front doors & 9.5mm s/s grids instead of the 7mm. Click on the link provided & than click on "Flyer", you will see what I mean.
isitin
Apr 2nd, 2010, 03:59 PM
It's not Ikea-easy but it wasn't bad either. Would have been easier with smaller hands/fingers with a couple of the nuts/bolts but pretty straightforward and nothing missing (although I did end up with extra nuts/bolts - always disconcerting).
There should not be any extra nuts & bolts. You gotta take it apart & start all over, LOL. :cheesygri:cheesygri:cheesygri:cheesygri
isitin
Apr 2nd, 2010, 04:52 PM
I think the one from Walmart this week is good deal if people are looking for a simple/smaller one. It is only 98$ with side burner.
http://www.walmart.ca/details?assetId=61254&fromSearch=true
Brand: UNIFLAME
Burners Primary One 2-Section Burner 27,000 BTU
Side Stainless Steel 10,000 BTU
Cooking Area:Primary 300 sq. in./Warming 153 sq. in.
Cooking Grates:Primary Porcelain Plated Steel/Warming Chrome Plated Steel
Ignition Type Push Button
Warranty 1 Year Limited
Assembled Dimensions ( HxLxW ) Inches 40 H x 51.2 L x 23.2 W
another one is $149 from Zellers.
Grillmate 50,000 BTU BBQ - $149.99
40,000 BTU main burner, 10,000 BTU side burner. 551 sq. in. total cooking surface,
2 individual stainless steel burners, porcelain coated cooking grill, electronic ignition system (battery included).
Reg. $199.99
Sure if you want to throw this bbq away at the end of the year & burn and ruin all your food.:cry::cry::cry::cry:
isitin
Apr 2nd, 2010, 05:00 PM
[QUOTE=ahsun;10579192]oh, that's interesting that it has the dual tubes. Those seem to cost more apparently.
The Dual Tubes on Broil Kings retail at my store for $10.99 per burner.:)
Mr Brown
Apr 2nd, 2010, 05:07 PM
Others have shown some interest in the BK Q's and I note on the HH website that the BK Signet 90 is priced at $499 until April 10 , the best other price I have seen is $549 at Rona.
isitin
Apr 2nd, 2010, 05:08 PM
How about a good BBQ recipes book?:cheesygri
This is the best recipe book on the market right now. It shows you the recipe & how to prepare & cook the item. GREAT BOOK.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0376020598/ref=s9_simvh_gw_p14_i1?pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0QAQ77JBPC77R6BB3XEP&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463383511&pf_rd_i=915398
http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/61hzVcWbeaL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
isitin
Apr 2nd, 2010, 05:15 PM
Well, I bit the bullet and bought myself the Weber CEP-320 NG from a local specialty shop. Probably could've gotten it a little cheaper somewhere else but I like to support local companies and they threw in a free $100 cover.
But of course I did it bassackwards and won't have my NG hooked up outside until next week.
I like the way you think supporting us small local stores. We look after all your needs.
isitin
Apr 2nd, 2010, 05:33 PM
really? neat, I guess price does matter per area, I just double checked my link and its 599
I double double checked your link & it says $699.99.
jon-calgary
Apr 2nd, 2010, 07:51 PM
This is the best recipe book on the market right now. It shows you the recipe & how to prepare & cook the item. GREAT BOOK.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0376020598/ref=s9_simvh_gw_p14_i1?pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0QAQ77JBPC77R6BB3XEP&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463383511&pf_rd_i=915398
http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/61hzVcWbeaL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
Is that you in the video? :lol:
jon-calgary
Apr 2nd, 2010, 07:53 PM
Still waiting for a sale on Weber Q 220 ... come on sale! I want my bbq now.
N8Magic
Apr 2nd, 2010, 08:25 PM
I like the way you think supporting us small local stores. We look after all your needs.
I also just purchased a Q120 from a local retailer. Small stores ftw!!
Lesson was learned with a big Napoleon TR605 from Canadian Tire. Great BBQ, and thankfully Napoleon took me under their wing in regards to customer service. Crappy Tire could learn a thing or two from them! Worst customer service EVER.
Raddo
Apr 2nd, 2010, 11:45 PM
If you don't care about a side burner, the BK Signet/Sovereign 70s will do the trick. They have the infrared rotisserie burner, but no side burner. The Sovereigns are bigger than the Signets as well.
Signet 70: http://www.broilkingbbq.com/2010/grillspecs.php?series=signet&grill=_70
Sovereign 70: http://www.broilkingbbq.com/2010/grillspecs.php?series=sovereign&grill=_70
Great! Thanks for the info. :D
Now does anyone know which is actually better for cooking: Heavy duty porcelain coated cast iron cooking grids or Solid stainless steel cooking grids? :confused:
hellomeems
Apr 3rd, 2010, 01:41 AM
Am thinking of buying the Weber Genesis E310 from the US and bringing it over the border. Was told that Webers purchased in the US have no warranty in Canada. Does anyone know if this is true? How important is the warranty? Aren't these units quite well-made and few of them actually need servicing?
ipassgas
Apr 3rd, 2010, 08:11 AM
I see lots of post talking about Signet 20 and Crown 20. What's the main difference and which one is better (NG model). Where is the cheapest place to buy them in the Toronto area?
zoomzoom
Apr 3rd, 2010, 08:31 AM
I see lots of post talking about Signet 20 and Crown 20. What's the main difference and which one is better (NG model). Where is the cheapest place to buy them in the Toronto area?
One difference is that the Signet uses tube burners and the Crown uses the Super8 burners. Not sure what other differences are between the 2 models.
encinc
Apr 3rd, 2010, 09:03 AM
I see lots of post talking about Signet 20 and Crown 20. What's the main difference and which one is better (NG model). Where is the cheapest place to buy them in the Toronto area?
I think that there is a difference in the side arms as well as the difference in the burner. We bought the Crown 20 because it fits a slightly smaller cover. We have a small patio, so we decided to save every inch that we can (not to mention that the smaller cover was $30 cheaper than the bigger one).
dr_chester007
Apr 3rd, 2010, 10:01 AM
I think the one from Walmart this week is good deal if people are looking for a simple/smaller one. It is only 98$ with side burner.
http://www.walmart.ca/details?assetId=61254&fromSearch=true
Brand: UNIFLAME
Burners Primary One 2-Section Burner 27,000 BTU
Side Stainless Steel 10,000 BTU
Cooking Area:Primary 300 sq. in./Warming 153 sq. in.
Cooking Grates:Primary Porcelain Plated Steel/Warming Chrome Plated Steel
Ignition Type Push Button
Warranty 1 Year Limited
Assembled Dimensions ( HxLxW ) Inches 40 H x 51.2 L x 23.2 W
another one is $149 from Zellers.
Grillmate 50,000 BTU BBQ - $149.99
40,000 BTU main burner, 10,000 BTU side burner. 551 sq. in. total cooking surface,
2 individual stainless steel burners, porcelain coated cooking grill, electronic ignition system (battery included).
Reg. $199.99
Please dont buy that cheap Uniflame at Walmart. I did buy one last year in special at 75.00$. At the end of summer, the burner was only half working and nothing was working this year.
After only 1 year, I had to buy a new bbq. This unit is garbage!
jayt90
Apr 3rd, 2010, 10:13 AM
Please dont buy that cheap Uniflame at Walmart. I did buy one last year in special at 75.00$. At the end of summer, the burner was only half working and nothing was working this year.
After only 1 year, I had to buy a new bbq. This unit is garbage!
Did you clean up the grease build up on the burner after your burgers spewed grease?
budmelon
Apr 3rd, 2010, 10:17 AM
Please dont buy that cheap Uniflame at Walmart. I did buy one last year in special at 75.00$. At the end of summer, the burner was only half working and nothing was working this year.
After only 1 year, I had to buy a new bbq. This unit is garbage!
+1 for me. Bought one last year and same thing, burner corroded and can't even get a replacement. Walmart itself doesn't even sell the replacement burner. Had to buy a H-burner and modify it to get it to work and now, I'm looking to get a new BBQ.
Stay away from Uniflame.
dmpP
Apr 3rd, 2010, 10:18 AM
Great! Thanks for the info. :D
Now does anyone know which is actually better for cooking: Heavy duty porcelain coated cast iron cooking grids or Solid stainless steel cooking grids? :confused:
porcelain coated cast iron all the way!
home depot sells generic replacement ones if you want to replace the steel ones (if you get a great deal on a bbq that includes the steel ones). I'm not sure how much they cost. My guess would be about $50 for a set of 2.
having said that, you need to use a brass brush to clean them, not the steel brush. the cost is about the same... so that's negligible.
Inno
Apr 3rd, 2010, 11:32 AM
porcelain coated cast iron all the way!
home depot sells generic replacement ones if you want to replace the steel ones (if you get a great deal on a bbq that includes the steel ones). I'm not sure how much they cost. My guess would be about $50 for a set of 2.
having said that, you need to use a brass brush to clean them, not the steel brush. the cost is about the same... so that's negligible.
I just bought a used Broil King with heavy steel grates. What kind of maintenance/prep do I need to do? And why is coated better? Non-stick?
itr452
Apr 3rd, 2010, 01:18 PM
i prefer the maintenance of the stainless steel grids, dont have to worry about it rusting :P
DTOM
Apr 3rd, 2010, 03:25 PM
I got it from HH in Milton, it's on sale till Saturday. No extras and I don't know the price on the 20 or 70.
Thanks.
Having a hard time deciding between getting a NG line put in and buying a NG BBQ or just going with a propane one (extra cost vs the convenience of NG and lower cost for propane plus more mobility but having to buy/refill the tank). For those who had to make that decision, what did you do, what were your deciding factors and are you happy with your choice?
Thanks.
kryjathic
Apr 3rd, 2010, 03:38 PM
Thanks.
Having a hard time deciding between getting a NG line put in and buying a NG BBQ or just going with a propane one (extra cost vs the convenience of NG and lower cost for propane plus more mobility but having to buy/refill the tank). For those who had to make that decision, what did you do, what were your deciding factors and are you happy with your choice?
Thanks.
I choose NG. Think what if you're having a bbq party and if stores are closed (eg. holiday or store hours) then your propane run out.
Elvisman
Apr 3rd, 2010, 03:46 PM
The Broil King Signet 90 BBQ is currently on sale at Home Hardware for $499.99 (regular $649) until April 10, but Rona has the same model for $549.99. If you take the HH flyer to Rona, you will get it for $449.99 (price match + 10% off). I just got one as I have been looking at this model for a couple of weeks now.
I would imagine Rona will adjust their price soon!
shoppingkart
Apr 3rd, 2010, 03:49 PM
Thanks.
Having a hard time deciding between getting a NG line put in and buying a NG BBQ or just going with a propane one (extra cost vs the convenience of NG and lower cost for propane plus more mobility but having to buy/refill the tank). For those who had to make that decision, what did you do, what were your deciding factors and are you happy with your choice?
Thanks.
For me its natural gas all the way, convenient (as long as you pay the gas bill :cheesygri) and easier to cook with (NG produces less BTU so less burned food)
shoppingkart
Apr 3rd, 2010, 03:52 PM
The Broil King Signet 90 BBQ is currently on sale at Home Hardware for $499.99 (regular $649) until April 10, but Rona has the same model for $549.99. If you take the HH flyer to Rona, you will get it for $449.99 (price match + 10% off). I just got one as I have been looking at this model for a couple of weeks now.
I would imagine Rona will adjust their price soon!
The Signet 90 from HH has the stainless steel side shelfs and the ones from Rona does not.
Elvisman
Apr 3rd, 2010, 04:02 PM
The Signet 90 from HH has the stainless steel side shelfs and the ones from Rona does not.
I didn't actually go to HH, I know the picture showed that. At Rona the Sovereign 90 had the stainless steel shelves but the Signet 90 had plastic. The model numbers matched for both stores and I got the BBQ for $449.99.
Raddo
Apr 3rd, 2010, 04:06 PM
porcelain coated cast iron all the way!
home depot sells generic replacement ones if you want to replace the steel ones (if you get a great deal on a bbq that includes the steel ones). I'm not sure how much they cost. My guess would be about $50 for a set of 2.
having said that, you need to use a brass brush to clean them, not the steel brush. the cost is about the same... so that's negligible.
Thanks for the info! ;):D
shoppingkart
Apr 3rd, 2010, 04:09 PM
I didn't actually go to HH, I know the picture showed that. At Rona the Sovereign 90 had the stainless steel shelves but the Signet 90 had plastic. The model numbers matched for both stores and I got the BBQ for $449.99.
Congrats, great price on a nice BBQ. I got mine from HH because of the shelves.
pinktt
Apr 3rd, 2010, 06:58 PM
I just got back from HH with flyer BK Signet 90 for $550 not $499
Edmonton, AB
isitin
Apr 3rd, 2010, 08:30 PM
Is that you in the video? :lol:
LOL, nope my name is Rick not Jamie.
dmpP
Apr 3rd, 2010, 08:38 PM
I just bought a used Broil King with heavy steel grates. What kind of maintenance/prep do I need to do? And why is coated better? Non-stick?
my opinion... I BBQ like this... heat up the grill to about 500 degrees or so, then put the food on. this will sear the meat/chicken, and it won't stick to the coated grates.
when I'm done, I let the grill burn out (on high) for about 25-30 min, turn it off, and clean the grates and let it cool down and then close it and cover it.
I always make sure it's covered when I'm done.
Rust? really? never had an issue. likely because I cover it.
isitin
Apr 3rd, 2010, 08:55 PM
The Broil King Signet 90 BBQ is currently on sale at Home Hardware for $499.99 (regular $649) until April 10, but Rona has the same model for $549.99. If you take the HH flyer to Rona, you will get it for $449.99 (price match + 10% off). I just got one as I have been looking at this model for a couple of weeks now.
I would imagine Rona will adjust their price soon!
That is a good price, I just saw the flyer. The REAL regular price is $599. Thats what everyone sells it at. Also the Rona Signet 90 has plastic shelves. I had a customer in today who wanted me to price match the Signet 90. I would not because it is a different model. The Rona one has the cheaper shelves.
isitin
Apr 3rd, 2010, 08:56 PM
The Signet 90 from HH has the stainless steel side shelfs and the ones from Rona does not.
Very good observation........
curls00
Apr 3rd, 2010, 09:15 PM
Are you guys sure the Rona one in the store has plastic shelves (referring to the Signet 90)? I know their website shows it as such, but I don't recall the in-store demo model having plastic shelves.
On the same topic -- does the BK Signet 90 at HH or elsewhere have 304 Stainless shelves?
Reddevil07
Apr 3rd, 2010, 09:36 PM
my opinion... I BBQ like this... heat up the grill to about 500 degrees or so, then put the food on. this will sear the meat/chicken, and it won't stick to the coated grates.
when I'm done, I let the grill burn out (on high) for about 25-30 min, turn it off, and clean the grates and let it cool down and then close it and cover it.
.
:eek: How often do you have to refill your tanks. 20-25 minutes is overkill. Also Weber suggest that you leave the fat on your grills after you cook as this provides protection when its not in use. Just clean it off when you go to cook next.
Elvisman
Apr 3rd, 2010, 09:44 PM
Are you guys sure the Rona one in the store has plastic shelves (referring to the Signet 90)? I know their website shows it as such, but I don't recall the in-store demo model having plastic shelves.
On the same topic -- does the BK Signet 90 at HH or elsewhere have 304 Stainless shelves?
I bought the Signet 90 at Rona today (at my bargain price) with the plastic shelves. As far as I'm concerned the plastic is just as good. As long as I keep it clean, it will last a long time. They checked the model numbers and they were exactly the same at HH as at Rona.
Elvisman
Apr 3rd, 2010, 09:49 PM
That is a good price, I just saw the flyer. The REAL regular price is $599. Thats what everyone sells it at. Also the Rona Signet 90 has plastic shelves. I had a customer in today who wanted me to price match the Signet 90. I would not because it is a different model. The Rona one has the cheaper shelves.
The Rona I was at even called HH to be sure of the model, and in the end, I got it for $449.
pinktt
Apr 3rd, 2010, 11:23 PM
can anybody tell me please which city that HH flyer have the BK Signet for $499 because Edmonton`s flyer have it for $550
thanks
Stevey_Y
Apr 3rd, 2010, 11:38 PM
can anybody tell me please which city that HH flyer have the BK Signet for $499 because Edmonton`s flyer have it for $550
It's on their website (for Ottawa at least) with Propane for $499 and NG for $550. Either you guys are talking about the PP vs NG models, or the sales are not national ?
rcthorne
Apr 4th, 2010, 06:38 AM
I bought the Signet 90 at Rona today (at my bargain price) with the plastic shelves. As far as I'm concerned the plastic is just as good. As long as I keep it clean, it will last a long time. They checked the model numbers and they were exactly the same at HH as at Rona.
I bought the 90 at Rona last year, and was somewhat disappointed when I realized that it had the plastic shelves. I emailed OMC and explained that the photos I've seen show the SS shelves, they first asked that I return it to RONA, but I said that there were none left in stock and they shipped out the SS shelves to me for Free.......
Elvisman
Apr 4th, 2010, 08:47 AM
I bought the 90 at Rona last year, and was somewhat disappointed when I realized that it had the plastic shelves. I emailed OMC and explained that the photos I've seen show the SS shelves, they first asked that I return it to RONA, but I said that there were none left in stock and they shipped out the SS shelves to me for Free.......
Maybe I should try that, it would be nice to have some back-up shelves.
nufan
Apr 5th, 2010, 10:24 AM
I plan to get a BBQ fairly soon. At first I was settled on the $200 Broil Mate from HD because of all the positive reviews, but am now thinking about the Signet 20 for an extra $150. If the Signet 90 is available for an extra $100 on top of that I might consider that.
Anyone know the main differences between the 20 and the 90? Worth an extra $100? My needs are fairly basic but figure I'll get something to last.
Also toying with getting a Natural gas line put in while I'm at it, seems like over the long term there are some savings to be had with not having to buy Propane (also prevents those annoying propane tank run outs in the middle of cooking a juicy steak :D) However the Signet 20 is an extra $100 at Rona for the NG version? Is there always this big of a price difference in the NG models? I thought Propane BBQ's could be converted to NG fairly cheap and easy...
rcthorne
Apr 5th, 2010, 10:42 AM
Anyone know the main differences between the 20 and the 90? Worth an extra $100?
Only Difference if that the 20 has no side burner or Rotisserie, the 70 has the rotisserie but no Side burner, and the 90 has it all. I had the 90, Never once used the Side burner or the Rotisserie. Just recently sold it as I bought a Big Green Egg. The BK's hold their value....well recommended
nufan
Apr 5th, 2010, 10:51 AM
Only Difference if that the 20 has no side burner or Rotisserie, the 70 has the rotisserie but no Side burner, and the 90 has it all. I had the 90, Never once used the Side burner or the Rotisserie. Just recently sold it as I bought a Big Green Egg. The BK's hold their value....well recommended
Thanks, good to know! Don't think I'll ever use a side burner, possibly would use the rotisserie but very rarely and prob. not worth the price difference (for me)
Inno
Apr 5th, 2010, 11:45 AM
Thanks, good to know! Don't think I'll ever use a side burner, possibly would use the rotisserie but very rarely and prob. not worth the price difference (for me)
We use the side burner only when we don't want to heat/steam up the house in the summer time, e.g. boiling a pot of corn or something.
jbarns
Apr 5th, 2010, 11:48 AM
We use the side burner only when we don't want to heat/steam up the house in the summer time, e.g. boiling a pot of corn or something.
grilled corn ftw..
Inno
Apr 5th, 2010, 11:51 AM
grilled corn ftw..
I knew someone would say that! Yeah, we do mostly grilled, but sometimes like to change it up.
VANTIS
Apr 5th, 2010, 12:02 PM
Thanks, good to know! Don't think I'll ever use a side burner, possibly would use the rotisserie but very rarely and prob. not worth the price difference (for me)
A side burner is great for bacon and eggs...no grease splatter in the kitchen. Also, rotisserie turkey at thanksgiving and christmas is fantastic. I havent had oven cooked turkey in probably 5 years!
nounou23
Apr 5th, 2010, 12:05 PM
Did anyone have any experience with the Beaumark brand from Zellers? It their current flyer they have a BBQ @ 350$ on sale. And with the SPC card you get an extra 10% off.
I've been trying to find more information online about the warranty but I cannot seem to locate anything. It seem that you would need to contact a company in Quebec but not 100% sure.
VANTIS
Apr 5th, 2010, 01:10 PM
I've been trying to find more information online about the warranty but I cannot seem to locate anything.
bells should be going off here, no?
nounou23
Apr 5th, 2010, 01:19 PM
bells should be going off here, no?
Yeah I know I know.
Just want to get the best deal possible.
I'm leaning toward the signet 20 again... I wanted to try to PM the signet 90 @ Rona but it's a little more than I want to pay for a BBQ. Also it's 550$ here at Home hardware in New Brunswick.
hangtime23
Apr 5th, 2010, 01:33 PM
I choose NG. Think what if you're having a bbq party and if stores are closed (eg. holiday or store hours) then your propane run out.
I actually just had this happen to me this past Good Friday...was bbqing, threw on the potatoes first cuz knew they'd take a long time to cook, then 10 mins later I check and notice the flame's dead. I just ran to the gas station down the street and they had a propane tank exchange program, so just gave them my old tank and took a newly filled tank for $23.99. I don't think gas stations ever close, and most gas stations seem to have propane tanks, or at least the ones I frequent do, so I don't think that's really an issue with propane bbqs.
chandans
Apr 5th, 2010, 02:35 PM
The Broil King Signet 90 BBQ is currently on sale at Home Hardware for $499.99 (regular $649) until April 10, but Rona has the same model for $549.99. If you take the HH flyer to Rona, you will get it for $449.99 (price match + 10% off). I just got one as I have been looking at this model for a couple of weeks now.
I would imagine Rona will adjust their price soon!
is 449 a HOT deal? or is it decent? should i wait out a cpl more weeks or bite?
fugazi11
Apr 5th, 2010, 02:57 PM
A side burner is great for bacon and eggs...no grease splatter in the kitchen. Also, rotisserie turkey at thanksgiving and christmas is fantastic. I havent had oven cooked turkey in probably 5 years!
That is what deep frying is for. Quick and tasty bird.
Trigger
Apr 5th, 2010, 03:07 PM
I actually just had this happen to me this past Good Friday...was bbqing, threw on the potatoes first cuz knew they'd take a long time to cook, then 10 mins later I check and notice the flame's dead. I just ran to the gas station down the street and they had a propane tank exchange program, so just gave them my old tank and took a newly filled tank for $23.99. I don't think gas stations ever close, and most gas stations seem to have propane tanks, or at least the ones I frequent do, so I don't think that's really an issue with propane bbqs.
I'd rather pay for convenience. Also kind of annoying to leave to find gas if you have guests over.
jbarns
Apr 5th, 2010, 03:37 PM
is 449 a HOT deal? or is it decent? should i wait out a cpl more weeks or bite?
i don't think it will get any better now, maybe end of season.. you won't go wrong buying BK so you shouldn't worry so much about price.
Thimble
Apr 5th, 2010, 03:51 PM
I just ran to the gas station down the street and they had a propane tank exchange program, so just gave them my old tank and took a newly filled tank for $23.99. I don't think gas stations ever close, and most gas stations seem to have propane tanks, or at least the ones I frequent do, so I don't think that's really an issue with propane bbqs.
It's easier (though more costly) to have three tanks. When you're down to one tank, it's time to refill the other two.
hangtime23
Apr 5th, 2010, 04:03 PM
I'd rather pay for convenience. Also kind of annoying to leave to find gas if you have guests over.
I don't have that option since I live in a condo.
My point was just that it's possible to get propane tanks refilled on public holidays when most stores are closed, not whether propane is more convenient than NG.
Also, if you didn't want to deal with the annoyance of leaving to find gas when you have guests over, you could just buy a 2nd propane tank, and just alternate between the 2 by rotating in your 2nd tank once the first one runs out, and then refilling the 1st tank the next day. Then the only extra cost would be that of the 2nd gas tank, which I'm guessing is considerably cheaper than having a NG line installed. Assuming that the cost of using NG is roughly equal to the cost of refilling a propane tank, it would really depend on how often you found yourself refilling the propane tanks, and whether or not saving that added hassle was worth the cost of having the NG line installed.
Personally (even though I don't have the option of installing an NG line), I see myself refilling the propane tank maybe once every 2 months or so, and to me, it's really not a big deal at all.
WaltDisney
Apr 5th, 2010, 04:44 PM
I don't have that option since I live in a condo.
My point was just that it's possible to get propane tanks refilled on public holidays when most stores are closed, not whether propane is more convenient than NG.
Also, if you didn't want to deal with the annoyance of leaving to find gas when you have guests over, you could just buy a 2nd propane tank, and just alternate between the 2 by rotating in your 2nd tank once the first one runs out, and then refilling the 1st tank the next day. Then the only extra cost would be that of the 2nd gas tank, which I'm guessing is considerably cheaper than having a NG line installed. Assuming that the cost of using NG is roughly equal to the cost of refilling a propane tank, it would really depend on how often you found yourself refilling the propane tanks, and whether or not saving that added hassle was worth the cost of having the NG line installed.
Personally (even though I don't have the option of installing an NG line), I see myself refilling the propane tank maybe once every 2 months or so, and to me, it's really not a big deal at all.
That's what I do. I stock 2 propane tanks. When one runs out, swap it out and refill it the next day. Only extra cost is buying a second tank, which is minimal.
brucered
Apr 5th, 2010, 04:50 PM
$9/20lb LP refill at costco. best price going, if you are a member.
wrigley
Apr 5th, 2010, 06:39 PM
$9/20lb LP refill at costco. best price going, if you are a member.
Paid 12.44 at Costco last week.
VANTIS
Apr 5th, 2010, 08:22 PM
That is what deep frying is for. Quick and tasty bird.
ha, yeah tasty...but i'll stick with the rotisserie!
VANTIS
Apr 5th, 2010, 08:28 PM
Yeah I know I know.
Just want to get the best deal possible.
I'm leaning toward the signet 20 again... I wanted to try to PM the signet 90 @ Rona but it's a little more than I want to pay for a BBQ. Also it's 550$ here at Home hardware in New Brunswick.
If you BBQ alot like i do, invest in a better grill. My first BBQ was a cheapo from canadian tire back when i bought my first house. It degraded very fast, and i never really got any good results with it. Within the year, i upgraded to a weber (genesis silver B) from HD in the states on clearance. I ended up paying about 400 CAD with boarder fees and grilling became so easy. I kept it in pretty good shape, and sold it last year for 250$ (bought in 2005) because i upgraded to a new natural gas weber.
I guess what in trying to say is you get what you par for, both in quality and cooking results.
nunb
Apr 5th, 2010, 10:05 PM
I didn't actually go to HH, I know the picture showed that. At Rona the Sovereign 90 had the stainless steel shelves but the Signet 90 had plastic. The model numbers matched for both stores and I got the BBQ for $449.99.
I went to Rona and sales rp. checked model # through their system and HH # and it was different.
HH model # is same at broilking website. 986784
Rona model # is different and he told me can't match the price.
Rona's policy is only UPC matched but HH closed at 9:30pm so he couldn't checked UPC anyways.
If you give me info about Rona's location, or UPC # I'll try again. but I think Rona sells different signet90 since their shelves are not SS and their website doesn't say signet 90. (But store model shows signet 90 on assembly manual with different model #)
I went west end Mississauga Rona (Eglington)
zoomzoom
Apr 5th, 2010, 11:04 PM
Here's a question that I'm trying to find an answer - wondering if someone would be able to help?
If there are 2 BBQs and both have main burners that are 45,000 BTUs, does that mean that both BBQs have the same fuel burn rate? For example, will a 20lb propane tank run for around the same amount of time for both BBQs, or is it possible that one of the BBQs will run much longer with the same amount of fuel?
Elvisman
Apr 6th, 2010, 01:24 AM
I went to Rona and sales rp. checked model # through their system and HH # and it was different.
HH model # is same at broilking website. 986784
Rona model # is different and he told me can't match the price.
Rona's policy is only UPC matched but HH closed at 9:30pm so he couldn't checked UPC anyways.
If you give me info about Rona's location, or UPC # I'll try again. but I think Rona sells different signet90 since their shelves are not SS and their website doesn't say signet 90. (But store model shows signet 90 on assembly manual with different model #)
I went west end Mississauga Rona (Eglington)
The kid working in the store read the model # in the add, looked at the back of the grill in the store, and voila, new grill for me. The box said Signet 90 on it also.
The customer service woman even made a phone call (to HH I think) and came back to tell me I got a hell of a deal.
This was at the Cambridge Rona at Hespeler Rd. and 401 if you want to drive.
98vtec
Apr 6th, 2010, 07:13 AM
It was regular price $999 cause these things never go on sale.
First off, the box is huge!! I just fit into my CR-V.
I get my brother to help me unload it into my back yard, crack open the box and was shocked to see that the lid had tons of damage to it.. The emblem was cracked off, paint chipped on 3 - 4 places around the lid handle. I was pissed! So I call the 1-800 number and they are going to ship me a brand new lid.. That's fine..
Ok so I continue on with the assembly, and by the time I am done, there are a total of 7 parts with damage, so I called back and report them all, and it seems the CSR doesn't believe me because the box was in impeccable shape. So the damaged must of been done prior to the packaging. The CSR then proceeds to tell me that some parts (including my lid), is back-ordered and could take 4 - 6 weeks before I receive them! Can you freaking believe this!! I have this $1000 + BBQ sitting in pieces in my shed, and I have to wait upwards of 6 weeks for parts. Returning it is not an option because of the weight and size and effort it will be to return it. And also the fact that this was the last one they had.
Any have any similar experiences with this? Talk about bad luck!! It always seems that when I buy something it is damaged.
Mark
Vladimir
Apr 6th, 2010, 07:46 AM
If you BBQ alot like i do, invest in a better grill. My first BBQ was a cheapo from canadian tire back when i bought my first house. It degraded very fast, and i never really got any good results with it. Within the year, i upgraded to a weber (genesis silver B) from HD in the states on clearance. I ended up paying about 400 CAD with boarder fees and grilling became so easy. I kept it in pretty good shape, and sold it last year for 250$ (bought in 2005) because i upgraded to a new natural gas weber.
I guess what in trying to say is you get what you par for, both in quality and cooking results.
I agree with this poster.
My father would always buy the cheapest BBQ at Canadian Tire. Well, there would be inconsistent cooking, and after a few years, it looks likes really worn.
Rather pay a couple extra hundred bucks and have a great BBQ.
billybob501
Apr 6th, 2010, 09:44 AM
So after enough monkeying around with appliancesconnection.com trying to get a weber sp320 shipped to the US for $600, I cancelled my order. It was a great deal and seemed legit, but they wanted a photocopy front and back of my ID and credit card since it was an international card.:idea: I called my CC company and the agent called that request "suspicious" so I cancelled the order.
Shipping damage worries and convenience have made me decide to go with the local HH store's Signet 90 for $550 CDN.
dunlop
Apr 6th, 2010, 10:03 AM
I have a budget of about $350 to pick up a propane BBQ. The jist I am getting from the forum is the best deal for that range is the Rona special for the Signet 20?
It's been years since I changed my BBQ so I would definately appreciate any advise
ahsun
Apr 6th, 2010, 10:33 AM
I have a budget of about $350 to pick up a propane BBQ. The jist I am getting from the forum is the best deal for that range is the Rona special for the Signet 20?
It's been years since I changed my BBQ so I would definately appreciate any advise
That's pretty well your answer. BTW, the flyer sale price ends today. Dunno if it will actually go back up tomorrow. :lol:
VANTIS
Apr 6th, 2010, 12:38 PM
It was regular price $999 cause these things never go on sale.
First off, the box is huge!! I just fit into my CR-V.
I get my brother to help me unload it into my back yard, crack open the box and was shocked to see that the lid had tons of damage to it.. The emblem was cracked off, paint chipped on 3 - 4 places around the lid handle. I was pissed! So I call the 1-800 number and they are going to ship me a brand new lid.. That's fine..
Ok so I continue on with the assembly, and by the time I am done, there are a total of 7 parts with damage, so I called back and report them all, and it seems the CSR doesn't believe me because the box was in impeccable shape. So the damaged must of been done prior to the packaging. The CSR then proceeds to tell me that some parts (including my lid), is back-ordered and could take 4 - 6 weeks before I receive them! Can you freaking believe this!! I have this $1000 + BBQ sitting in pieces in my shed, and I have to wait upwards of 6 weeks for parts. Returning it is not an option because of the weight and size and effort it will be to return it. And also the fact that this was the last one they had.
Any have any similar experiences with this? Talk about bad luck!! It always seems that when I buy something it is damaged.
Mark
as soon as you opened the box and saw damage, why didn't it go straight back to the store??????? Who cares what it weighs...if it starts out a lemon, you will forever have problems with it...return immediately. It fit in your car, right?
Inigo Montoya
Apr 6th, 2010, 01:21 PM
In Toronto - there's an unadvertised (except for signs in store) sale at Dickson's Home Hardware (Avenue/Wilson) - http://www.dicksonhh.com/bbq.php running until at least the weekend, I think.
They had a $60 store credit on the Weber Genesis EP-3X0 models and $140 on the Weber Genesis CEP-3X0 and S-3X0 models. The selling price before credit looked the same as Rona/HD/Lowes, so this was equivalent to a 10-15% discount on the 2 better models. I assume other models were also on sale, but didn't ask.
The store also noted that their versions of the Weber Genesis line differ slightly from the big box models.
I'm liking the CEP-310 - $1050+tx for NG and using the store credit to get a cover and include delivery & assembly (as the poster above mentions - this thing is big, and it's not worth the issues of getting it home and discovering a problem).
There might be better sales over the summer, but judging from this thread, they aren't too much better, and this seems to be the best out there right now.
CEP-310 is the EP-310, with stainless steel doors and 9mm grates!
ACDC
Apr 6th, 2010, 02:07 PM
Is there a real difference between the Broil King Crown and Signet models.
I just sprang for a Crown 90 NG at Sears(still being shipped to the store) and noticed that a similar model of the Signet 90 at the same price point for sale at Home Hardware.
Should I get my money back and get the Signet instead?
Thanks.
mike002
Apr 6th, 2010, 02:09 PM
CEP-310 NG is $1019 at Southport.
curls00
Apr 6th, 2010, 02:47 PM
Is there a real difference between the Broil King Crown and Signet models.
I just sprang for a Crown 90 NG at Sears(still being shipped to the store) and noticed that a similar model of the Signet 90 at the same price point for sale at Home Hardware.
Should I get my money back and get the Signet instead?
Thanks.
Signet90 has an extra burner for better zone heat control, it has stainless heat baffles for even better zone separation, stainless shelves (I'm not 100% sure the Crown90 has full stainless shelves), etc.
For the same price I'd take the Signet90 over the Crown90 ANY day.
Schlipps
Apr 6th, 2010, 03:08 PM
So after enough monkeying around with appliancesconnection.com trying to get a weber sp320 shipped to the US for $600, I cancelled my order. It was a great deal and seemed legit, but they wanted a photocopy front and back of my ID and credit card since it was an international card.:idea: I called my CC company and the agent called that request "suspicious" so I cancelled the order.
Shipping damage worries and convenience have made me decide to go with the local HH store's Signet 90 for $550 CDN.
I was soon going to buy a genesis s-320 from homeeverything.com. Judging by the website layout, I assume they are affiliated with appliancesconnection.com. After reading about your payment problems and another poster's issue with a damaged weber, I will most likely go with the Signet 90 deal from HH. I would hate to drive back from the US only to find out the BBQ is damaged.
RayK
Apr 6th, 2010, 06:08 PM
as soon as you opened the box and saw damage, why didn't it go straight back to the store??????? Who cares what it weighs...if it starts out a lemon, you will forever have problems with it...return immediately. It fit in your car, right?
+1, return it if you can...you will also be missing 6 weeks of bbq if you wait...
diehardfan
Apr 6th, 2010, 06:13 PM
Markham Home Hardware, http://thebbqpro.com/ is also running a $70 Sobeys gift card promotion when you buy a BBQ from $4XX-$XXX, its a range and higher the range higher the gift card value. Sorry do not remember the numbers.
But the point being, you can also apply this promotion to the Signet 90 LP deal going for $499.97, so just another bonus to this already good deal.
Do not know if its nationwide or just this location.
codtongues
Apr 6th, 2010, 07:58 PM
For people who need a really big bbq Home Hardware will have what they call the Broil King Regal 690(looks like the Broil King Imperial XL) on sale starting April 10th for $1399.97 from the $1719.99 regular price.
isitin
Apr 6th, 2010, 11:23 PM
Markham Home Hardware, http://thebbqpro.com/ is also running a $70 Sobeys gift card promotion when you buy a BBQ from $4XX-$XXX, its a range and higher the range higher the gift card value. Sorry do not remember the numbers.
But the point being, you can also apply this promotion to the Signet 90 LP deal going for $499.97, so just another bonus to this already good deal.
Do not know if its nationwide or just this location.
You cannot use the Sobey's promo with any other deal. And this deal is available at all CBE dealers in Ontario for 2 weeks.
http://www.broilkingbbq.com/_cbe/home.php
Mepoor
Apr 7th, 2010, 05:45 AM
The Broil King Signet 90 BBQ is currently on sale at Home Hardware for $499.99 (regular $649) until April 10, but Rona has the same model for $549.99. If you take the HH flyer to Rona, you will get it for $449.99 (price match + 10% off). I just got one as I have been looking at this model for a couple of weeks now.
I would imagine Rona will adjust their price soon!I tried this but no luck. The Rona Manager says the 10% difference is not applied on SALE items. I didn't think it worked like that but whatever. He would PM the HH $499, but I might as well get the the unit at HH with the SS shelves...
The kid working in the store read the model # in the add, looked at the back of the grill in the store, and voila, new grill for me. The box said Signet 90 on it also.
The customer service woman even made a phone call (to HH I think) and came back to tell me I got a hell of a deal.
This was at the Cambridge Rona at Hespeler Rd. and 401 if you want to drive.
No go for me on this one... so far ;)
CheapoFillipo
Apr 7th, 2010, 07:21 AM
Rona appears to have the Sovereign 70 NG on this week (Apr 7- 13) for $749
is it worth it? (my god i'm so cheap that price makes me second guess it and you other folk are talking in the thousands for a BBQ)
ahsun
Apr 7th, 2010, 07:25 AM
Rona appears to have the Sovereign 70 NG on this week (Apr 7- 13) for $749
is it worth it? (my god i'm so cheap that price makes me second guess it and you other folk are talking in the thousands for a BBQ)
No, no.. most of us are even cheaper than you and are looking in the $300-$500 price range. :cheesygri
dunlop
Apr 7th, 2010, 07:26 AM
That's pretty well your answer. BTW, the flyer sale price ends today. Dunno if it will actually go back up tomorrow. :lol:
arg, I got stuck at work with an emergency and couldn't make it to Rona.
The Signet 20 is back at $399 :evil:
Guess I'll hold out for another deal
Happy13178
Apr 7th, 2010, 08:36 AM
CT has some brand new Cuisinart BBQs for sale now. They aren't listed on CT's website, iirc, but you can find info about them here:
http://www.cuisinartbbqs.com/
They look like they are really well put together and the Cuisinart name is well-known.
They are priced $350/500/650 iirc. I plan on getting the 500 one soon.
I was looking at the c780sr propane grill...it looks ok, only one review on it on the site though. The review's 5 out of 5 stars...not sure if there's a better BBQ at CT for the 500 or less range. I really don't want to go the the master chef series....they feel cheap.
curls00
Apr 7th, 2010, 08:47 AM
I was looking at the c780sr propane grill...it looks ok, only one review on it on the site though. The review's 5 out of 5 stars...not sure if there's a better BBQ at CT for the 500 or less range. I really don't want to go the the master chef series....they feel cheap.
For $350, get the Broil King Signet 20.
For $500, get the Broil King Signet 90.
For $650, why are you looking at a "store brand" for Canadian Tire?
jbarns
Apr 7th, 2010, 08:52 AM
For $350, get the Broil King Signet 20.
For $500, get the Broil King Signet 90.
For $650, why are you looking at a "store brand" for Canadian Tire?
signet 20 is back up to $399 at rona
nounou23
Apr 7th, 2010, 08:54 AM
I was looking at the c780sr propane grill...it looks ok, only one review on it on the site though. The review's 5 out of 5 stars...not sure if there's a better BBQ at CT for the 500 or less range. I really don't want to go the the master chef series....they feel cheap.
They seem to have a good warranty too.
I've been reading the manual of the Broil King Signet and it seem that even if they have 5 years warranty on some parts you still have to pay for the parts after 2 years. it's 50% off for the 3rd year, 40% off for the 4th year and 30% off for the 5th year...
Happy13178
Apr 7th, 2010, 08:55 AM
For $350, get the Broil King Signet 20.
For $500, get the Broil King Signet 90.
For $650, why are you looking at a "store brand" for Canadian Tire?
Does CT carry Broil King? I have a GC from them for a while back and would like to use it there if possible...
I was also looking at:
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/2/BBQsAccessories/PropaneBBQs/PRDOVR~0853026P/Coleman%252BEven-Heat%252B3-Burner%252BPropane%252BBBQ.jsp
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/2/BBQsAccessories/PropaneBBQs/PRDOVR~0853012P/Thermos%252BHeatwave%252B500%252BSeries%252B3-Burner%252BPropane%252BBBQ.jsp
VANTIS
Apr 7th, 2010, 09:46 AM
Does CT carry Broil King? I have a GC from them for a while back and would like to use it there if possible...
I was also looking at:
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/2/BBQsAccessories/PropaneBBQs/PRDOVR~0853026P/Coleman%252BEven-Heat%252B3-Burner%252BPropane%252BBBQ.jsp
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/2/BBQsAccessories/PropaneBBQs/PRDOVR~0853012P/Thermos%252BHeatwave%252B500%252BSeries%252B3-Burner%252BPropane%252BBBQ.jsp
only buy a BBQ from canadian tire if you plan on buyng another one in the next 2 years or so...
nounou23
Apr 7th, 2010, 09:52 AM
This thread make me think that most of the people here work for broil king / broil mate / webber...
Most people say they are good BBQ but it's funny because my in laws have a 50$ BBQ that we got them like 4 years ago from Canadian Tire. It was on clearance and the cheapest one there. They are still using it now, they never had a cover put on it, they never cleaned it and always left it outside in the winter. I found rust on some of the external parts and on the tank but none on the grill and outside burner... Must be magical :)
Traian2003
Apr 7th, 2010, 10:14 AM
This thread make me think that most of the people here work for broil king / broil mate / webber...
Most people say they are good BBQ but it's funny because my in laws have a 50$ BBQ that we got them like 4 years ago from Canadian Tire. It was on clearance and the cheapest one there. They are still using it now, they never had a cover put on it, they never cleaned it and always left it outside in the winter. I found rust on some of the external parts and on the tank but none on the grill and outside burner... Must be magical :)
Seriously, I was planning on buying a 200$ bbq from CrappyTire, but after reading this thread I went all out and blew 1400$ on a Webber Genesis S320. I don't regret it though.
Askari
Apr 7th, 2010, 10:21 AM
For people who need a really big bbq Home Hardware will have what they call the Broil King Regal 690(looks like the Broil King Imperial XL) on sale starting April 10th for $1399.97 from the $1719.99 regular price.
i only see regal 420, 440 and 490 on broil kings website. is this a new model?
http://www.broilkingbbq.com/2010/grills.php
Happy13178
Apr 7th, 2010, 10:29 AM
only buy a BBQ from canadian tire if you plan on buyng another one in the next 2 years or so...
Let's assume then, that I'll be buying a new one at some point. I have the credit for CT, so I'd like to use it there. Are any of the Cuisinart/Coleman/Thermos models ok, or are they all junk?
98vtec
Apr 7th, 2010, 10:42 AM
Let's assume then, that I'll be buying a new one at some point. I have the credit for CT, so I'd like to use it there. Are any of the Cuisinart/Coleman/Thermos models ok, or are they all junk?
My Thermos model from crappy tire lasted 5 years.. 5 years is really pushing though.. I went out on Saturday to BBQ some steaks and the burner / covering literally fell apart! So I went out on Monday and bought a Weber Genesis...
outlier617
Apr 7th, 2010, 11:54 AM
Just noticed in the upcoming flyer that charcoal briquettes (no name) are 3.50 per bag next week at No Frills (I believe flyer starts on Friday). . Have no idea about quality or anything, but know that several of you purchased charcoal grills. . Hope that helps someone. .
VANTIS
Apr 7th, 2010, 12:32 PM
Let's assume then, that I'll be buying a new one at some point. I have the credit for CT, so I'd like to use it there. Are any of the Cuisinart/Coleman/Thermos models ok, or are they all junk?
My personal opinion is they are all junk. Maybe the Napoleon models they carry (they use to anyways) would be ok, but your looking at 6-800 i would guess.
shoppingkart
Apr 7th, 2010, 12:42 PM
This thread make me think that most of the people here work for broil king / broil mate / webber...
Most people say they are good BBQ but it's funny because my in laws have a 50$ BBQ that we got them like 4 years ago from Canadian Tire. It was on clearance and the cheapest one there. They are still using it now, they never had a cover put on it, they never cleaned it and always left it outside in the winter. I found rust on some of the external parts and on the tank but none on the grill and outside burner... Must be magical :)
Don’t measure the quality of bbq by how much rust is on it.
99SiR
Apr 7th, 2010, 04:29 PM
Latest Barbeques Galore catalogue was delivered recently, has all of the good selections out there with prices.....now if we could only get some good sales!!!
Also I had a friend check direct buy and I think the webers were not much cheaper then retail...
orion_pax
Apr 7th, 2010, 05:19 PM
signet 20 is back up to $399 at rona
$40 off the Signet 20 in the Apr 7-13 flyer
http://www.rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-signet-20-propane-gas-barbecue-broil-king-385959_!signet_shop
codtongues
Apr 7th, 2010, 06:39 PM
I was wondering if the Webers are worth the premium over the Broil Kings. I was at Home Hardware today and they have a Broil King Sovereign XLS for $999. It has stainless steel grids and 1000 sq in cooking area compared to 500-600 for a Weber that is around the same price. I've had a Broil King for many years and have not had any issues.
ahsun
Apr 7th, 2010, 08:31 PM
$40 off the Signet 20 in the Apr 7-13 flyer
http://www.rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-signet-20-propane-gas-barbecue-broil-king-385959_!signet_shop
The flyer says $399 (which is the regular price for the propane Signet 20).
ipassgas
Apr 7th, 2010, 08:38 PM
Which is better... Crown 20 or Signet 20? I can't seem to find the main differences.
Askari
Apr 7th, 2010, 08:48 PM
I was wondering if the Webers are worth the premium over the Broil Kings. I was at Home Hardware today and they have a Broil King Sovereign XLS for $999. It has stainless steel grids and 1000 sq in cooking area compared to 500-600 for a Weber that is around the same price. I've had a Broil King for many years and have not had any issues.
rona sells the xls90 for $899/propane and $950/natural gas
home hardware $999/propane and $1050/natural gas (not sure why they are so much more)
was at hh today and they were going to sell me the natural gas one for $900 at a "sale" price
wish i had bought it when rona whitby had the 10% off bbq's this weekend..
shoppingkart
Apr 8th, 2010, 09:27 AM
Which is better... Crown 20 or Signet 20? I can't seem to find the main differences.
Signet 20 has these extra features
Stainless Steel Dual-Tube Burners
Stainless Steel Flav-R-Zone Heat Partitions
milkman_tom
Apr 8th, 2010, 09:42 AM
Signet 20 at Rona went up $50, it was at $349 two days ago on the web site. Now I need to wait for a good sale.
prod
Apr 8th, 2010, 10:25 AM
After examining instore, I still have only found cosmetic differences between the signet 20 and this one at HD for $299 regular price:
Broil Mate model 116554 (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber)
Im hoping for a $50 off sale before I jump on it.
ahsun
Apr 8th, 2010, 10:51 AM
After examining instore, I still have only found cosmetic differences between the signet 20 and this one at HD for $299 regular price:
Broil Mate model 116554 (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber)
Im hoping for a $50 off sale before I jump on it.
When I compared the two, the grids were different (weight and coating), the tube burners slightly different and the no heat partitions on the HD Broil Mate.
I know it's only cosmetic.. but damn does the stainless steel look way better than grey plastic!
pipe77
Apr 8th, 2010, 10:57 AM
After examining instore, I still have only found cosmetic differences between the signet 20 and this one at HD for $299 regular price:
Broil Mate model 116554 (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber)
Im hoping for a $50 off sale before I jump on it.
One big difference is the grills. Signet 20 has solid cast iron, while the Broilmate has porcelain coated cast iron, I believe a little lighter weight. Signet also has the heat partitions, not sure if the Broilmate does.
CoconutJoe
Apr 8th, 2010, 12:09 PM
Signet 20 at Rona went up $50, it was at $349 two days ago on the web site. Now I need to wait for a good sale.
You can still get it for $40 off with this coupon (http://www.rona.ca/v2/images/en_US/promo_coupons/coupons_n0c_comp.pdf).
shoppingkart
Apr 8th, 2010, 12:17 PM
One big difference is the grills. Signet 20 has solid cast iron, while the Broilmate has porcelain coated cast iron, I believe a little lighter weight. Signet also has the heat partitions, not sure if the Broilmate does.
SIGNET 20
986554 LP / 986657 NG
• 44,000 BTU stainless steel burner system
• 3 stainless steel Dual-Tube™ burners
• 635 sq.in. total cooking area
• 400 sq.in. primary cooking area
• Heavy-duty porcelain coated cast iron cooking grids
• Stainless steel Flav-R-Wave™ cooking system
• Linear Flow™ infinitely adjustable burner valves
• Deluxe Accu-temp™ thermometer
• Sure-Lite™ electronic ignition system
• Therma-Cast™ aluminum oven
• Deluxe Perma-Mold™ drop-down sides shelves
ahsun
Apr 8th, 2010, 12:27 PM
SIGNET 20
• Heavy-duty porcelain coated cast iron cooking grids
'cept when you examine the grill at the store, the grid doesn't look porcelain coated and is instead rough / matte cast iron looking. They also have a much better weight than the ones found on the Broil Mate.
I would say the closest exact grill as the Broil Mate would be the Sterling: http://www.rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-propane-gas-barbecue-sterling-441483_!bbq_sterling_shop or http://www.rona.ca/shop/~barbecue-44000-btu-propane-gas-barbecue-sterling-385594_!bbq_sterling_shop
rinse
Apr 8th, 2010, 12:44 PM
You can still get it for $40 off with this coupon (http://www.rona.ca/v2/images/en_US/promo_coupons/coupons_n0c_comp.pdf).
Thanks!
Mepoor
Apr 8th, 2010, 12:47 PM
The Broil King Signet 90 BBQ is currently on sale at Home Hardware for $499.99 (regular $649) until April 10, but Rona has the same model for $549.99. If you take the HH flyer to Rona, you will get it for $449.99 (price match + 10% off). I just got one as I have been looking at this model for a couple of weeks now.
I would imagine Rona will adjust their price soon!
No go for me on this one... so far ;)
The kid working in the store read the model # in the add, looked at the back of the grill in the store, and voila, new grill for me. The box said Signet 90 on it also.
The customer service woman even made a phone call (to HH I think) and came back to tell me I got a hell of a deal.
This was at the Cambridge Rona at Hespeler Rd. and 401 if you want to drive.
I tried this but no luck. The Rona Manager says the 10% difference is not applied on SALE items. I didn't think it worked like that but whatever. He would PM the HH $499, but I might as well get the the unit at HH with the SS shelves...
OK, so here's my update:
Rona would not PM +10% the Home Hardware Broil King Signet 90 sale price of $499 down to the $449 (for the 10%). They would only PM at the HH sale price of $499.
So I decided to just buy it at HH because they actually started the $499 pricing. I go to buy it and guess what - at my promting for an extra something - anything, HH offers to throw in a free long handled BBQ steel brush, BBQ seasoning, AND... wait for it... the $70 Sobeys Gift Card. Sweet mama, SOLD I say. :)
Rona can go suck eggs. They just don't seem to get it :confused:. Home Hardware is King of customer service and BBQ deals :!:
So in my mind I got the BK Signet 90 for $429! Now I just have to wait for Sobeys's to put steaks and roasts on sale! :)
nounou23
Apr 8th, 2010, 12:52 PM
OK, so here's my update:
Rona would not PM +10% the Home Hardware Broil King Signet 90 sale price of $499 down to the $449 (for the 10%). They only PM at the HH sale price of $499.
So I decided to just buy it at HH because they actually started the $499 pricing. I go to buy it and guess what - at my promting for an extra something - anything, HH offers to through in a free long handled BBQ steel brush, BBQ seasoning, AND... wait for it... the $70 Sobeys Gift Card. Sweet mama, SOLD I say. :)
Rona can go suck eggs. They just don't seem to get it :confused:. Home Hardware is King of customer service and BBQ deals :!:
So in my mind I got the BK Signet 90 for $429! Now I just have to wait for Sobeys's to put steaks and roasts on sale! :)
Would be nice to have a deal like that here in New Brunswick :)
chandans
Apr 8th, 2010, 01:02 PM
OK, so here's my update:
Rona would not PM +10% the Home Hardware Broil King Signet 90 sale price of $499 down to the $449 (for the 10%). They only PM at the HH sale price of $499.
So I decided to just buy it at HH because they actually started the $499 pricing. I go to buy it and guess what - at my promting for an extra something - anything, HH offers to through in a free long handled BBQ steel brush, BBQ seasoning, AND... wait for it... the $70 Sobeys Gift Card. Sweet mama, SOLD I say. :)
Rona can go suck eggs. They just don't seem to get it :confused:. Home Hardware is King of customer service and BBQ deals :!:
So in my mind I got the BK Signet 90 for $429! Now I just have to wait for Sobeys's to put steaks and roasts on sale! :)
damn thats a sweet deal. i went to my local HH to pick one up today. but they said wait would be till april 30th if i ordered today cuz apparently theyre on back order.
but that deal is sick. im gonna go try pm'ing at rona today, if they dont beat it by 10% which they should... (that whole sale thing is a loada crock) then i might try to work out a deal at HH the dude there seemed really nice.
smuPoker
Apr 8th, 2010, 01:03 PM
Would be nice to have a deal like that here in New Brunswick :)
No kidding. I had to "settle" for a BK Signet 20 for $399 from Kent's.
VANTIS
Apr 8th, 2010, 01:18 PM
another good way to get a good BBQ deal is to look for discounted gift cards people are selling for palces that sell BBQ's. I got a Weber Genesis EP-320 natural gas for 1049 - 20% discount at HD (store promo) which came to 839.20$ + taxes. Then i bought a 1K HD gift card at 20% off from some dude that met me at the cash register. So essentially I got the BBQ for 1049- 40% or 629.40$ plus taxes...
easy money...
K2`
Apr 8th, 2010, 02:17 PM
how's this fiesta one? i'm having a hard time justifying spending an extra $150for the broil king
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=911142&Ntt=911142&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113000&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
phreezee
Apr 8th, 2010, 02:37 PM
Anyone do any cross-border BBQ shopping?
desi2007
Apr 8th, 2010, 03:04 PM
After reading a lot of the posts, I think Broil King Signet 20 Natural Gas is the one for me. I don't need the side burner.
Is there any other difference between signet 90 and signet 20?
Seems like Rona has signet 20 for $449 minus the $40 coupon= $409
Is there any other better deals out there?
BTW: Has anyone heard of BBQ Brand called Omaha Grills? Is it any good?
makDADDY
Apr 8th, 2010, 03:05 PM
I picked up a Broil King Sovereign XL 20 at Ontario BBQ's for 699.99 (LP). They had it listed at 799.99 on their website, but I was able to get them to match Barbeque Galore's price.
They also threw in a house brand cover for half price ~$90-%50.
All said and done it came roughly to $850 after taxes.
I could've been a little happier with some accessories, but for the price and the BBQ I'm getting. I'm still pleased as punch.
It has 4 burners (52000BTU), the flav-r wave, the heat partitions, came with the steel plates for the "recall" issue.
It has thick 9mm stainless steel grates and the burners are cheap and easy to replace. (Future planning).
1000sq in of total cooking space (600 primary).
I'm hard pressed to find a weber or napolean that matches these features at this price!
And at the end of the day, how useful is a side burner or rotisserie? I've got a stove and an oven for that stuff.
pipe77
Apr 8th, 2010, 04:08 PM
[QUOTE=ahsun;10624626]'cept when you examine the grill at the store, the grid doesn't look porcelain coated and is instead rough / matte cast iron looking. They also have a much better weight than the ones found on the Broil Mate.
I do now see that the description on Broil Kings site says "porcelain coated", but when I looked at it in Rona I agree it sure didn't look like it was. Some other posts have mentioned Rona's Signet 20 model might have a couple differences from other stores, any chance they have a different grill? Or maybe it was a past year's model? :confused:
Anyway, I have a Signet 20 on it's way, I price-matched at Home Hardware but none were in stock, as I prefer to buy there.
VANTIS
Apr 8th, 2010, 04:26 PM
Anyone do any cross-border BBQ shopping?
i bought my first weber across the boarder in Buffalo in 03...saved a bunch of cash even with duty, and thats when the dollar was nowhere near par.
curls00
Apr 8th, 2010, 04:34 PM
After reading a lot of the posts, I think Broil King Signet 20 Natural Gas is the one for me. I don't need the side burner.
Is there any other difference between signet 90 and signet 20?
Seems like Rona has signet 20 for $449 minus the $40 coupon= $409
Is there any other better deals out there?
BTW: Has anyone heard of BBQ Brand called Omaha Grills? Is it any good?
Signet 20: Basic grill
Signet 70: Grill + rotisserie
Signet 90: Grill + rotisserie + side burner + stainless shelves (not on the Rona model though).
nufan
Apr 8th, 2010, 07:14 PM
After reading a lot of the posts, I think Broil King Signet 20 Natural Gas is the one for me. I don't need the side burner.
Is there any other difference between signet 90 and signet 20?
Seems like Rona has signet 20 for $449 minus the $40 coupon= $409
Is there any other better deals out there?
BTW: Has anyone heard of BBQ Brand called Omaha Grills? Is it any good?
One flaw in that is that the $40 off coupon clearly says its for the Propane model, but worth a try I guess in case the salesman doesn't notice/gives it to you anyway?
desi2007
Apr 8th, 2010, 09:33 PM
Does the Signet 20 at Home Hardware has steel shelving?
Basic Grill is fine with my as I never used the side burner or rotisserie on my last BBQ.
Does Home Hardware have $70 Sobey's coupon available for Natural Gas Signet 20?
can80an
Apr 8th, 2010, 11:54 PM
Does anybody have any experience with this particular BBQ (Model UP405RBNSS-3)? Air Miles has this one and we've got just about the right amount of point for it. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks, Neil
CoconutJoe
Apr 9th, 2010, 12:38 AM
After reading a lot of the posts, I think Broil King Signet 20 Natural Gas is the one for me. I don't need the side burner.
Is there any other difference between signet 90 and signet 20?
Seems like Rona has signet 20 for $449 minus the $40 coupon= $409
Is there any other better deals out there?
BTW: Has anyone heard of BBQ Brand called Omaha Grills? Is it any good?
Um, it's $399 minus the $40 coupon, not $449.
MooG
Apr 9th, 2010, 08:48 AM
Um, it's $399 minus the $40 coupon, not $449.
For the propane one yes. For the natural gas its $449 and you might not be able to use the $40 coupon as it specifically states on the coupon it's for the propane gas version.
desi2007
Apr 9th, 2010, 08:49 AM
Um, it's $399 minus the $40 coupon, not $449.
$399 price is for the propane model. I am looking for Natural Gas model which is $449. Also, the coupon says $40 off for propane model.
nufan
Apr 9th, 2010, 08:49 AM
Um, it's $399 minus the $40 coupon, not $449.
wrong, he's talking about the natural gas model, which costs more than propane.
lemmings
Apr 9th, 2010, 09:08 AM
Who's on first?
Mepoor
Apr 9th, 2010, 09:44 AM
For the entry level BBQ's, there's another fairly basic Sterling BBQ on sale at Home Hardware for $299 (http://www.homehardware.ca/index/eflyer)(Reg $349). It has 3 heat control zones with no side burner or rotiserrie. 44,000 BTU and 635 sq in cooking...
Sterling (aka Onward and Broil King) carries the same 5yr Warranty on the burners and 2yrs on everything else, and life time on the casting.
cheers
jed
Apr 9th, 2010, 10:03 AM
I LOVE my Sterling! It is now about 15 yrs old, and I replaced the burner once. When I called to get the burner from OMC, they told me that there was an update on a control, so they sent that along, for free. Excellent product, and excellent service.
bofh
Apr 9th, 2010, 10:18 AM
Brault et Martineau has this Weber:
http://www.braultetmartineau.com/fr/prod/1/electromenagers/2/barbecues/00227266/barbecue-de-42-000-btu/
in their flyer for $899 with a promotion of no GST/PST.
psweitzer
Apr 9th, 2010, 11:19 AM
For the entry level BBQ's, there's another fairly basic Sterling BBQ on sale at Home Hardware for $299 (http://www.homehardware.ca/index/eflyer)(Reg $349). It has 3 heat control zones with no side burner or rotiserrie. 44,000 BTU and 635 sq in cooking...
Sterling (aka Onward and Broil King) carries the same 5yr Warranty on the burners and 2yrs on everything else, and life time on the casting.
cheers
Looking at the specs this seems to be the same as the Signet 20 at Rona?!?!
Same stainless steel burners, same cooking area, same grill, same FlavRWave system?
Any reason to not buy this over the one at Rona?!?!
98vtec
Apr 9th, 2010, 11:38 AM
Brault et Martineau has this Weber:
http://www.braultetmartineau.com/fr/prod/1/electromenagers/2/barbecues/00227266/barbecue-de-42-000-btu/
in their flyer for $899 with a promotion of no GST/PST.
Not sure if there is a side burner or not on that..
I bought the exact same one, with side burner (same color=copper) all stainless steel cooking grates and stainless steel flavorizor bars.. Paid $999
Does Rona offer price protection?
LesterZhang
Apr 9th, 2010, 11:45 AM
Looking at the specs this seems to be the same as the Signet 20 at Rona?!?!
Same stainless steel burners, same cooking area, same grill, same FlavRWave system?
Any reason to not buy this over the one at Rona?!?!
Want to find out that too, is the Signet 20 worth the 50 Dollar extra?
CoconutJoe
Apr 9th, 2010, 11:45 AM
Who's on first?
:lol:
Looking at the specs this seems to be the same as the Signet 20 at Rona?!?!
Same stainless steel burners, same cooking area, same grill, same FlavRWave system?
Any reason to not buy this over the one at Rona?!?!
I'm curious too. Only going by the HH pic it seems like the Signet 20 may have a bit nicer build quality (I haven't seen the Sterling in person). The Signet has nicer shelves. Not sure if there's anything else though. I keep hearing that the Signet has "porcelain-coated cast iron grids" but the one I saw was just cast iron, not porcelain-coated.
psweitzer
Apr 9th, 2010, 02:04 PM
Want to find out that too, is the Signet 20 worth the 50 Dollar extra?
From the pictures I see that the handle on the cover is stainless and the shelves on either side are a little different... Not worth an extra $50 IMHO... :cheesygri
*If* the one at Rona actually comes with cast iron and not porcelain coated cast iron then I think it would be worth it... Going to have to check them out today or tomorrow...b
LiquidReach
Apr 9th, 2010, 02:27 PM
Looks like I can get a Broil King Monarch 40 for $250 cash. Seems like it retails for $319 or so.
This BBQ wouldn't go on sale for less then $220, would it?
K2`
Apr 9th, 2010, 05:24 PM
From the pictures I see that the handle on the cover is stainless and the shelves on either side are a little different... Not worth an extra $50 IMHO... :cheesygri
*If* the one at Rona actually comes with cast iron and not porcelain coated cast iron then I think it would be worth it... Going to have to check them out today or tomorrow...b
well.. lets say it is porcelain coated.. then why not go with this one?
http://www.barbecuesgalore.ca/cooking.bpsx?CookingID=42
its $250 for NG and $220 for propane... thoughts anyone?
shoppingkart
Apr 9th, 2010, 06:24 PM
well.. lets say it is porcelain coated.. then why not go with this one?
http://www.barbecuesgalore.ca/cooking.bpsx?CookingID=42
its $250 for NG and $220 for propane... thoughts anyone?
The "H" burner is not the best for even heat distribution
billybob501
Apr 9th, 2010, 07:04 PM
Ordered the Broil King Signet 90 from local HH on Tuesday, received it today. Cooked some big hamburgers quick on it.:cheesygri It is a completely new way of cooking, no flare ups, burgers are moist not burnt, incredible. It has the heavy cast iron grills, stainless steel side shelves, rotisserie burner, side burner, electronic ignition...... Very happy with the purchase, and the service with a local shop can not be beat! I'll be BBQ'n everyday now for a bit. Beer can chicken, rotisserie roast, pork chops, ribs, salmon on cedar plank, veggies, mmmmmmmm!
So if you were on the fence about this model, I don't think you can go wrong.
For those looking at a weber, sears latest flyer had the genesis 310 on for $100 off for $899.
curls00
Apr 9th, 2010, 08:10 PM
Ordered the Broil King Signet 90 from local HH on Tuesday, received it today. Cooked some big hamburgers quick on it.:cheesygri It is a completely new way of cooking, no flare ups, burgers are moist not burnt, incredible. It has the heavy cast iron grills, stainless steel side shelves, rotisserie burner, side burner, electronic ignition...... Very happy with the purchase, and the service with a local shop can not be beat! I'll be BBQ'n everyday now for a bit. Beer can chicken, rotisserie roast, pork chops, ribs, salmon on cedar plank, veggies, mmmmmmmm!
So if you were on the fence about this model, I don't think you can go wrong.
For those looking at a weber, sears latest flyer had the genesis 310 on for $100 off for $899.
I received the same one from HH on Thursday evening. Grilled up some burgers on it today and I agree -- AWESOME grill. I did the recommended burn-off time before using it and found it did have some funny odour until about the 8 minute mark, at which point it seemed that all of the foreign stuff was burned off and the grill was ready to use!
The Signet90 was easily assembled with a 7/16 wrench, a Philips and a Robertson screwdriver (large ones). It's rock solid and looks FANTASTIC on the deck! Real 304 stainless, unlike a lot of the Chinese 400-series stainless found on cheaper grills.
I'm going to be broke buying the best cuts of meat for this beauty of a grill this summer. :)
milkman_tom
Apr 9th, 2010, 10:24 PM
:lol:
I'm curious too. Only going by the HH pic it seems like the Signet 20 may have a bit nicer build quality (I haven't seen the Sterling in person). The Signet has nicer shelves. Not sure if there's anything else though. I keep hearing that the Signet has "porcelain-coated cast iron grids" but the one I saw was just cast iron, not porcelain-coated.
Ya, interested myself, kind of upset to see Rona jacked up the price of the Signet to $399 when few days ago was $350 :(
Beside the one on-sale at HH, this one at HD is the same price at $299 but branded as Broil-Mate http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
I would prefer the Signet, yes it is $50 more but since most people say it would last then wouldn't it be worth it?
gdeals
Apr 9th, 2010, 10:43 PM
What do you guys think this Broil King from Sears (http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309060?ptag=1) for $279.99? What model is it?
zoomzoom
Apr 9th, 2010, 11:38 PM
What do you guys think this Broil King from Sears (http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309060?ptag=1) for $279.99? What model is it?
That would be the BK Crown 10.
ahsun
Apr 10th, 2010, 08:19 AM
Uggg, you gots ta read the older posts ppl!!! Sterlings vs. Broil King vs. Broil Mate has been discussed at length already. :|
"Who's on First" indeed!
Anyway, I ordered the BK Crown 40 NG online at Sears.ca cuz I'm getting impatient and price drops on the Signet 20 NG don't seem to be happening. The Crown 40 doesn't have the same burner as the Signet but does have a side burner (which I would actually have a use for). With a $35 coupon, the subtotal comes to $414.99 which isn't too bad. (Total after taxes and a small handling fee of $3 is $472.33)
The Crown 40 NG retails reg. price at Sears for $499, but it's $449 at most other stores like Ontario Gas. Sears has a $50 off sale which only brings it down to regular price at other stores... but with the extra $35 coupon, it wins.
rinse
Apr 10th, 2010, 09:15 AM
Bought the Signet 20 from Rona today.
Cast iron grids are in its own packaged box within the BBQ's big box packaging. Brand is "Genius"
Eldorado
Apr 10th, 2010, 10:56 AM
I received the same one from HH on Thursday evening. Grilled up some burgers on it today and I agree -- AWESOME grill. I did the recommended burn-off time before using it and found it did have some funny odour until about the 8 minute mark, at which point it seemed that all of the foreign stuff was burned off and the grill was ready to use!
The Signet90 was easily assembled with a 7/16 wrench, a Philips and a Robertson screwdriver (large ones). It's rock solid and looks FANTASTIC on the deck! Real 304 stainless, unlike a lot of the Chinese 400-series stainless found on cheaper grills.
I'm going to be broke buying the best cuts of meat for this beauty of a grill this summer. :)
Son of a ... where are you guys located?
I bought mine on April 1st, was told it was to be in the following Wednesday, the 7th, got called yesterday and told they are having trouble with supplier and can be up to another 10days.. erg!!
Thinking of going over to somewhere like TA Appliances and see if they will give me a better price since HH is taking so long!
Mepoor
Apr 10th, 2010, 11:32 AM
Son of a ... where are you guys located?
I bought mine on April 1st, was told it was to be in the following Wednesday, the 7th, got called yesterday and told they are having trouble with supplier and can be up to another 10days.. erg!!
Thinking of going over to somewhere like TA Appliances and see if they will give me a better price since HH is taking so long! I had my HH Signet 90 transferred/ delivered in next day from an other HH store. Maybe try asking about that.
Ordered the Broil King Signet 90 from local HH on Tuesday, received it today. Cooked some big hamburgers quick on it.:cheesygri It is a completely new way of cooking, no flare ups, burgers are moist not burnt, incredible. It has the heavy cast iron grills, stainless steel side shelves, rotisserie burner, side burner, electronic ignition...... Very happy with the purchase, and the service with a local shop can not be beat! I'll be BBQ'n everyday now for a bit. Beer can chicken, rotisserie roast, pork chops, ribs, salmon on cedar plank, veggies, mmmmmmmm!
So if you were on the fence about this model, I don't think you can go wrong.
Nice, sounds delicous. Will be assembling mine tomorrow. Can't wait. Will remember to pre-heat to burn off the factory dust and oils...
FYI REMINDER - today is the last day for the the Signet 90 at HH for the $499.
and btw, did you guys get the $70 Sobeys GC with your purchase or any extra accessories??
Vladimir
Apr 10th, 2010, 11:57 AM
im still pretty new to this bbqing but i am a little disappointed with the signet 90
the middle burner seems to have uneven heat distribution. ive cooked up a sausage and the one of of the sausage was almost burnt and the other end was barely cooked., it did that with a steak I did to (outside burners were fine).
Also, I got a question, I bought mine at HH and it came preassembled, however the side burner wasnt plugged in.. but I am not sure how to plug the hose in, it won't go in far enough, it blocks itself.. I am wondering if perhaps a part is missing.
RFDPants
Apr 10th, 2010, 12:40 PM
im still pretty new to this bbqing but i am a little disappointed with the signet 90
the middle burner seems to have uneven heat distribution. ive cooked up a sausage and the one of of the sausage was almost burnt and the other end was barely cooked., it did that with a steak I did to (outside burners were fine).
Also, I got a question, I bought mine at HH and it came preassembled, however the side burner wasnt plugged in.. but I am not sure how to plug the hose in, it won't go in far enough, it blocks itself.. I am wondering if perhaps a part is missing.
I have the Crown 90 NG and I was wondering about the side burner hose as well. - it looks like it is designed to have this big gap. There should be a retainer clip for the hose and there is only one way this clip will fit to keep the hose in place. Side burner works fine.
curls00
Apr 10th, 2010, 12:48 PM
I am in Ottawa and ordered through Manotick Home Hardware. It came in over the Easter weekend.
For the side burner, there is supposed to be a gap. First, remove the small silver clip using pliers. It just pulls straight off. Then insert the hose into the female end of the rigid tube for the burner. Re-insert clip. Done.
I did not find there to be any uneven cooking, but will say that unless you had a left or right burner on, there's a chance that half of the sausage you were cooking was above one of the left/right burners and not above the centre burner. The reason there is such disparity between them is that there are built-in heat shields to allow each burner to have full heat control on its third of the grilling surface.
I just picked up the Costco cover ($19.99) and it fits really well, has a mesh 'belt line' for ventilation, and seems extremely heavy-duty -- shouldn't crack or fade.
Mepoor: No, I asked about the Sobey's GC but the stores in my area aren't participating in it. I recall reading earlier on here that it was due to one store in the Hamilton(??) area that was doing this. Maybe others near there can chime in but I haven't heard of this deal in my area (Eastern Ontario - Ottawa).
Vladimir
Apr 10th, 2010, 12:50 PM
I have the Crown 90 NG and I was wondering about the side burner hose as well. - it looks like it is designed to have this big gap. There should be a retainer clip for the hose and there is only one way this clip will fit to keep the hose in place. Side burner works fine.
oh really? seems weird. ok well guess ill give it a try this aft. dont see how it could work with a huge gap heh
Aggy
Apr 10th, 2010, 01:55 PM
Just called 3 local HH here in GTA and all told me they were sold out and on backorder until end of April/beginning of May for the Signet 90's. Supplier was having trouble filling orders or something...I'm assuming that BK? Anyways, none left in the warehouse and the sales guy told me I'd have a hard time finding one in TO. :(
Also, just got off the phone with Sobies on Willowdale and asked about the price of the Signet 90 and he quoted $599. I asked him if they ever have sales or promos and he said you will never see these BBQ's on sale as there is a small profit margin since they are North American made. I told him HH has it for $499 and he wasn't too happy.
Vladimir
Apr 10th, 2010, 02:02 PM
I have the Crown 90 NG and I was wondering about the side burner hose as well. - it looks like it is designed to have this big gap. There should be a retainer clip for the hose and there is only one way this clip will fit to keep the hose in place. Side burner works fine.
yup just tried it seems to be working fine.. weird, you would think maybe propane would be leakin everywhere oh well, thanks a ton for the info!
markymark
Apr 10th, 2010, 03:41 PM
I was told the same thing at my local HH.
I ordered it on the 4th and I went in today to check on the status and he told me an additional 3-4 weeks as the warehouse is having problems filling orders from the supplier! :(
curls00
Apr 10th, 2010, 03:50 PM
LOL... RFD effect on BBQ's? Who'd have thought!!
orion_pax
Apr 10th, 2010, 04:32 PM
Sears Days has just started. I'm not sure what the model is so I couldn't do a quick scan on RFD. But any thoughts on this one here? I'm not looking to pay anything over $350 for a BBQ. I'm a casual user. Maybe take it out 5-10 times a season.
http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309060/event-6889#BVQAWidgetID
encinc
Apr 10th, 2010, 05:11 PM
That's the BK Crown 10, I believe. I was told that its stand is not as sturdy as the other Crown models and it has a different grate.
It has the same Infinity 8 burners as the other Crown models. If you want a BK BBQ on a budget, it's not a bad buy. Definitely better than anything you could get a CT or Walmart.
Aggy
Apr 10th, 2010, 05:25 PM
Had to go to Rona today anyways and thought I'd bring the HH flyer to try to PM the Signet 90. The guy told me they couldn't PM as it was a Rona exclusive model. I was still looking at the BBQ's and he came back and offered me 15% off the $549 price with a Friend/Family discount so I took it. I don't mind the plastic shelving and I got the BBQ for $477 + tax.
Now time for some BBQ tools and a cover...guess I should have used the 15% off to buy them :cheesygri
Aggy
Apr 10th, 2010, 05:27 PM
I was told the same thing at my local HH.
I ordered it on the 4th and I went in today to check on the status and he told me an additional 3-4 weeks as the warehouse is having problems filling orders from the supplier! :(
Yeah, the guy on the phone said they are not making them fast enough and the ones on the line being built are already sold.
curls00
Apr 10th, 2010, 05:43 PM
Had to go to Rona today anyways and thought I'd bring the HH flyer to try to PM the Signet 90. The guy told me they couldn't PM as it was a Rona exclusive model. I was still looking at the BBQ's and he came back and offered me 15% off the $549 price with a Friend/Family discount so I took it. I don't mind the plastic shelving and I got the BBQ for $477 + tax.
Now time for some BBQ tools and a cover...guess I should have used the 15% off to buy them :cheesygri
Costco has an AWESOME cover for $19.99. It has a mesh "belt" line through it which provides great ventilation. The cover is a near-perfect fit for the Signet series. Just enough wiggle room to make removal and re-covering very easy.
They also have stainless steel tools for a good price (can't remember as I own my own already but did buy the cover).
Askari
Apr 10th, 2010, 06:23 PM
just bought a broil king sovereign xls 90 (ng) from rona in mississauga. got if for $800 +tax. regular price $950
used a friends and family discount. open up a rona advantage card and got 15% off and 5x air miles.
Askari
Apr 10th, 2010, 06:24 PM
Costco has an AWESOME cover for $19.99. It has a mesh "belt" line through it which provides great ventilation. The cover is a near-perfect fit for the Signet series. Just enough wiggle room to make removal and re-covering very easy.
They also have stainless steel tools for a good price (can't remember as I own my own already but did buy the cover).
do they have different sizes? not sure if it will fit the broil king soveriegn.. i paid about $80 for the exact fit one from rona.
Aggy
Apr 10th, 2010, 06:37 PM
Costco has an AWESOME cover for $19.99. It has a mesh "belt" line through it which provides great ventilation. The cover is a near-perfect fit for the Signet series. Just enough wiggle room to make removal and re-covering very easy.
They also have stainless steel tools for a good price (can't remember as I own my own already but did buy the cover).
Thanks I may check it out tomorrow...I guess there's no link as I can't find it on the site.
Mepoor
Apr 10th, 2010, 06:55 PM
FYI - not sure if this has been stated already, but...
Rona also has a fairly basic Sterling BBQ (http://sterlingbbq.com/grills/grill_6.html)that comes with a rear rotisserie burner and NO SIDE BURNER for only for $289.
Granted, this unit is not too sexy looking... but maybe this is an option for those looking for a basic BBQ for under $300 with a rear rotisserie burner and not a side burner.
The aluminum oven casting has a life time warranty, and both the Dual-H and rear burner carry a 5-YEAR WARRANTY, and 2-yrs on everything else. Not too shabby for a sub $300 BBQ.
Model 445174 LP (http://sterlingbbq.com/grills/grill_6.html)• 44,000 BTU stainless steel Dual-H™ burner system
• 15,000 BTU stainless steel rear rotisserie burner
• Premium rotisserie kit included
• 700 sq. in. total cooking surface
• 400 sq. in. primary cooking surface
• Porcelain coated cast iron cooking grids
• Stainless steel Flav-R-Wave™ cooking system
• Linear Flow™ valves
• Accu-temp™ thermometer
• Sure-Lite™ electronic ignition system
• Uni-Cast™ aluminum oven
• Black chrome epoxy painted front panel and control panel
• Perma-Mold™ side shelves with integrated tool hooks
I currently have a 7 year old Sterling bbq that is still going strong. I had the dual-H burner replace under warranty in year 4 for free with no problems from Sterling. (I had the original receipt so the warranty process was smooth and flawless).
Just a thought...
Cheers :)
Sears Days has just started. I'm not sure what the model is so I couldn't do a quick scan on RFD. But any thoughts on this one here? I'm not looking to pay anything over $350 for a BBQ. I'm a casual user. Maybe take it out 5-10 times a season.
http://www.sears.ca/product/broil-king-propane-grill/50309060/event-6889#BVQAWidgetIDorion_pax - for an entry level bbq and for another $10 I would personally consider the above Sterling BBQ at Rona which includes a rear rotisserie burner...
curls00
Apr 10th, 2010, 07:30 PM
do they have different sizes? not sure if it will fit the broil king soveriegn.. i paid about $80 for the exact fit one from rona.
I don't think the Sovereign grill is too much wider. This one has room to spare on the Signet.
Your best bet is to buy the Costco one, try it out, and return it or the Rona one depending on your findings. I threw out the box for the cover, but IIRC, it's 70" wide. Measure the Sovereign from edge to edge (shelves) and if its under or near 70", you should definitely try the Costco one.
Askari
Apr 10th, 2010, 07:38 PM
I don't think the Sovereign grill is too much wider. This one has room to spare on the Signet.
Your best bet is to buy the Costco one, try it out, and return it or the Rona one depending on your findings. I threw out the box for the cover, but IIRC, it's 70" wide. Measure the Sovereign from edge to edge (shelves) and if its under or near 70", you should definitely try the Costco one.
looks like i need 72x23x48.. (thats the measurement of the cover made for the model i got)
will still check it out though.
nounou23
Apr 10th, 2010, 08:02 PM
I went to look at the signet 20 and other broil king / broil mate / sterling models and I find the models at 300-400$ range are plain looking. Like there's not wow factor in those BBQ. Even my wife said they didn't look that good.
I was looking at the other BBQ at homedepot and the charmglow looked good. And also the warranty wasn't too too bad.
Like this one for 200$ has decent reviews should last a while if stored and handle correctly.
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=972719&Ntt=972719&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
Any opinion?
curls00
Apr 10th, 2010, 08:32 PM
I went to look at the signet 20 and other broil king / broil mate / sterling models and I find the models at 300-400$ range are plain looking. Like there's not wow factor in those BBQ. Even my wife said they didn't look that good.
I was looking at the other BBQ at homedepot and the charmglow looked good. And also the warranty wasn't too too bad.
Like this one for 200$ has decent reviews should last a while if stored and handle correctly.
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=972719&Ntt=972719&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
Any opinion?
Do good looks cook better?
rinse
Apr 10th, 2010, 08:36 PM
I went to look at the signet 20 and other broil king / broil mate / sterling models and I find the models at 300-400$ range are plain looking. Like there's not wow factor in those BBQ. Even my wife said they didn't look that good.
I was looking at the other BBQ at homedepot and the charmglow looked good. And also the warranty wasn't too too bad.
Like this one for 200$ has decent reviews should last a while if stored and handle correctly.
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=972719&Ntt=972719&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
Any opinion?
plain looking? this is a bbq not a car or designer purse
whampoa
Apr 10th, 2010, 08:40 PM
I went to look at the signet 20 and other broil king / broil mate / sterling models and I find the models at 300-400$ range are plain looking. Like there's not wow factor in those BBQ. Even my wife said they didn't look that good.
I was looking at the other BBQ at homedepot and the charmglow looked good. And also the warranty wasn't too too bad.
Like this one for 200$ has decent reviews should last a while if stored and handle correctly.
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=972719&Ntt=972719&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
Any opinion?
Do Charmglow BBQ match your outdoor patio furniture colour?
shoppingkart
Apr 10th, 2010, 09:18 PM
plain looking? this is a bbq not a car or designer purse
Look at that aerodynamic shape. Bet it does 0-60 faster than a Broil King
LesterZhang
Apr 10th, 2010, 09:33 PM
Bought the Signet 20 from Rona today.
Cast iron grids are in its own packaged box within the BBQ's big box packaging. Brand is "Genius"
How much did you pay for the Signet 20 from Rona? I was thinking of getting that too, but found the price went back to 399 in Rona's website.
rtjw
Apr 10th, 2010, 09:50 PM
This is my first post...
I was at a HomeDepot today and the staff there told me that there is a BBQ Pre-Season sale coming up next Saturday, April 17. All BBQs $299 and up will have 20% off.
jcon
Apr 10th, 2010, 10:16 PM
This is my first post...
I was at a HomeDepot today and the staff there told me that there is a BBQ Pre-Season sale coming up next Saturday, April 17. All BBQs $299 and up will have 20% off.
Same deal as last year, during the same weekend. Thanks for the heads up!
Jamie_Canuck
Apr 10th, 2010, 10:31 PM
http://www.sears.ca/event/6889/1100390/0/0
A few bucks off at Sears... on Weber and BroilKing...
barricuda
Apr 10th, 2010, 10:42 PM
This is my first post...
I was at a HomeDepot today and the staff there told me that there is a BBQ Pre-Season sale coming up next Saturday, April 17. All BBQs $299 and up will have 20% off.
Thanks for the info... was looking forward to this sale... was at Home Depot today too checking out the bbqs... did not speak to any of the employees so never heard about the sale
nounou23
Apr 11th, 2010, 11:40 AM
This is my first post...
I was at a HomeDepot today and the staff there told me that there is a BBQ Pre-Season sale coming up next Saturday, April 17. All BBQs $299 and up will have 20% off.
Interesting!
Thanks for the info
IceQue
Apr 11th, 2010, 11:41 AM
This is a HOT deal for people willing to make the drive to the USA
Weber Genesis E-310 Propane Grill $570.15 Shipped From Hayneedle
Weber E-310 The E-310 comes in 3 colors and is $659. Shipping is a great deal at $10, and no tax for NY. Coupon code SV-8252 takes 15% off for a total of $570.15 shipped.
http://www.grillsdirect.com/gas-grills/grills-with-carts/webergenesise310gasgrill.cfm?RNtt=e310
Home Depot, Sears etc sells this here in Canada for 900+ Taxes!! with the Cdn dollar on par this is WELL worth the drive down to pick this up!
barricuda
Apr 11th, 2010, 02:36 PM
This is my first post...
I was at a HomeDepot today and the staff there told me that there is a BBQ Pre-Season sale coming up next Saturday, April 17. All BBQs $299 and up will have 20% off.
Bought the Weber Q 300 from Home Depot for $399. The employee pretty much confirmed the 20% off next week... so I'll hopefully get the difference refunded then...
Thanks again rtjw for the info...
two*little*birds
Apr 11th, 2010, 05:38 PM
Any thoughts on the infrared BBQ's at Lowe's?
CoconutJoe
Apr 12th, 2010, 01:14 AM
What to do, what to do...
I have a rain check at Rona for the universally-loved Broil King Signet 20 @ $349.
I also like the look of the Broil-Mate 735269 (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909223&Ntt=909223&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113002%204294966832&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber) at HD for $320 after 20% off.
Both have a lot of the same features, with the Broil-Mate having a side burner and larger cooking surface than the BK. I've got suspicions about the build quality of the Broil-Mate, though. Can anyone confirm or offer any insight?
nounou23
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:02 AM
What to do, what to do...
I have a rain check at Rona for the universally-loved Broil King Signet 20 @ $349.
I also like the look of the Broil-Mate 735269 (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp
/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909223&Ntt=909223&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113002%204294966832&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber) at HD for $320 after 20% off.
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Both have a lot of the same features, with the Broil-Mate having a side burner and larger cooking surface than the BK. I've got suspicions about the build quality of the Broil-Mate, though. Can anyone confirm or offer any insight?
Since someone mentioned the 20% discount I'm also interested in that broil mate from Homedepot. What to do? What to do? lol
petah
Apr 12th, 2010, 08:08 AM
Bought a Signet 70 NG on Saturday for $520 tax in from HomeHardware(connections). :D
I would have bought a Signet 20 at $350 (that is a good deal) but I thought I'd try the Signet 70 with the rear burner as well.
curls00
Apr 12th, 2010, 08:20 AM
Bought a Signet 70 NG on Saturday for $520 tax in from HomeHardware(connections). :D
I would have bought a Signet 20 at $350 (that is a good deal) but I thought I'd try the Signet 70 with the rear burner as well.
You'll be glad you got the rotisserie. I used it yesterday (Signet 90) and the chicken was AWESOME. A bit of homemade rub on the chicken, an onion (on the skewer and then inside the cavity of the chicken to hold it in place), and 20 minutes per pound on medium. Voila... Awesome!
K2`
Apr 12th, 2010, 09:06 AM
Since someone mentioned the 20% discount I'm also interested in that broil mate from Homedepot. What to do? What to do? lol
dang it.. i had my choices down to the crown 40 or the signet 20 in NG.. now with the 20% coupon, i'm looking at the broil mate equivalent to signet 20..
its $349.99 now, minus 20% is $279.99 .. vs the 400 to 449 ish for the BK's...
the dilemma! oh what to do!
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916295&Ntt=916295&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113000&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
rosemere21
Apr 12th, 2010, 09:12 AM
This is a HOT deal for people willing to make the drive to the USA
Weber Genesis E-310 Propane Grill $570.15 Shipped From Hayneedle
Weber E-310 The E-310 comes in 3 colors and is $659. Shipping is a great deal at $10, and no tax for NY. Coupon code SV-8252 takes 15% off for a total of $570.15 shipped.
http://www.grillsdirect.com/gas-grills/grills-with-carts/webergenesise310gasgrill.cfm?RNtt=e310
Home Depot, Sears etc sells this here in Canada for 900+ Taxes!! with the Cdn dollar on par this is WELL worth the drive down to pick this up!
I was looking at E-310 at HomeDpot, and its price was $699.
And, I will wait for 20% off this weekend! (= CAD$559)
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909209&Ntt=909209&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
nounou23
Apr 12th, 2010, 09:12 AM
dang it.. i had my choices down to the crown 40 or the signet 20 in NG.. now with the 20% coupon, i'm looking at the broil mate equivalent to signet 20..
its $349.99 now, minus 20% is $279.99 .. vs the 400 to 449 ish for the BK's...
the dilemma! oh what to do!
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916295&Ntt=916295&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113000&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
I know! The LP one is 300$ - 20% = 240$$$$.
I'm thinking of getting a BBQ before the sale in case they sold out. And then go and have a price adjustment. But I don't know what to get.
K2`
Apr 12th, 2010, 09:28 AM
dang it.. i had my choices down to the crown 40 or the signet 20 in NG.. now with the 20% coupon, i'm looking at the broil mate equivalent to signet 20..
its $349.99 now, minus 20% is $279.99 .. vs the 400 to 449 ish for the BK's...
the dilemma! oh what to do!
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916295&Ntt=916295&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113000&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
actually.. does anybody know if this is the dual tube burner? or just the dual H?
i can't find this model on Broil Mate's website..
itr452
Apr 12th, 2010, 10:11 AM
I was looking at E-310 at HomeDpot, and its price was $699.
And, I will wait for 20% off this weekend! (= CAD$559)
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909209&Ntt=909209&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
you're looking at the chinese made spirit vs the american made genesis fyi
prod
Apr 12th, 2010, 10:11 AM
actually.. does anybody know if this is the dual tube burner? or just the dual H?
i can't find this model on Broil Mate's website..
Didnt see that one in person (116557), but the propane one thats $50 less (116554) has the tube burners, so Im thinking the more expensive one should too.
In fact, I think with 3 burners it would have to, H burners can only have 2 as far as I have seen.
fugazi11
Apr 12th, 2010, 10:17 AM
Didnt see that one in person (116557), but the propane one thats $50 less (116554) has the tube burners, so Im thinking the more expensive one should too.
In fact, I think with 3 burners it would have to, H burners can only have 2 as far as I have seen.
Looks like tube according the assembly manual (page 11).
http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/116557_Assembly.pdf
Cech
Apr 12th, 2010, 10:22 AM
I've been lurking here for a while as I'm shopping for a grill too.
I missed a great deal last fall from Brault & Martineau Liquidation center on the BK Signet 20, $249 + no tax promo + free delivery :(
My brother ended up buying one instead.
The Broill mate is a dual tube with PCI grates, same as Rona. The differences are looks and obviously the price. I'd go with the BM for $240.
As for myself. I've been eyeing the Weber Genesis model:
EP-310 (SS Grates) from Brault & Martineau for 899 (no tax this week)
or
E-320 from Home Depot (PCI Grates + Side burner) for 899 -20%
or
save a lot of cash and get the Broil Mate for 240 :!::confused:
What to do???
ipassgas
Apr 12th, 2010, 10:29 AM
If you can get a new NG broil mate for 279, then there is no dilemma..... Do it. Almost 40% off the price of the NG signet 20.... there's no dilemma. Still a decent BBQ and a hot deal at that price.
Skillz14
Apr 12th, 2010, 10:31 AM
Didnt see that one in person (116557), but the propane one thats $50 less (116554) has the tube burners, so Im thinking the more expensive one should too.
In fact, I think with 3 burners it would have to, H burners can only have 2 as far as I have seen.
I went to see this model at the store a couple of weeks ago and I'm pretty sure its actually a 2 burner. I know the picture shows 3 but in store the model that was on for $299 was a 2 burner. I think they might be using the wrong picture.
Can anyone confirm?
fugazi11
Apr 12th, 2010, 10:33 AM
If you can get a new NG broil mate for 279, then there is no dilemma..... Do it. Almost 40% off the price of the NG signet 20.... there's no dilemma. Still a decent BBQ and a hot deal at that price.
I think that is what I am going to do.
Anybody know what HD price protection is? I think I might try to find it this week before the 20% off sale on Saturday.
Just called the local store and they informed that they don't have this nor does anybody in the GTA
prod
Apr 12th, 2010, 10:53 AM
I went to see this model at the store a couple of weeks ago and I'm pretty sure its actually a 2 burner. I know the picture shows 3 but in store the model that was on for $299 was a 2 burner. I think they might be using the wrong picture.
Can anyone confirm?
The one I saw was definitely 3 burner for $299, unless they mislabelled it.
Whats their price protection policy, in case I want to go in this week?
da_hool
Apr 12th, 2010, 10:55 AM
Bought the Weber Q 300 from Home Depot for $399. The employee pretty much confirmed the 20% off next week... so I'll hopefully get the difference refunded then...
Thanks again rtjw for the info...
That's what I did last year. I bought it at $399 and waited for the next 20% BBQ sale. It happened after the 30 day price protection, but there is a 90 day refund policy so she just refunded it and did a new transaction.
Gotta love HD's no hassle return policy.
MS MSP
Apr 12th, 2010, 11:06 AM
Has anyone seen a recent deal on the Broil King Sovereign 70? I'm looking for the natural gas version, model # 987737.
I'm looking to buy it right away.
Thanks
da_hool
Apr 12th, 2010, 11:24 AM
After using the Q 300 for the season, my only complaint was the lack of a warming rack. The Q 320 has this along with a handle light. Weber Canada is charging $43.40 for the light and $36.70 for the warming rack replacement parts, plus $10 shipping. Yikes!
http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/1f/1fe149fd-63de-4f6a-bdc7-e5dbb12d57f5_300.jpg
I ended up ordering the Weber Warming Rack for $19.99 (http://www.amazon.com/Weber-Q-6512-Warming-Rack/dp/B0036OQK2O/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1271089246&sr=8-3-catcorr) along with Weber's Way to Grill for $16.47 USD (http://www.amazon.com/Webers-Way-Grill-Step-Step/dp/0376020598/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271088023&sr=8-1) from Amazon.com with free shipping to a US mail receiver (Hagen's of Blaine)
http://store.weber.com/img/ecom/product/309551_lg.jpg
I'm ready for the BBQ season! :)
zonetbh
Apr 12th, 2010, 11:38 AM
Hey RFD/BBQ deal pros, quick question:
Would buying a BBQ in August/September be a good time to get some decent deals? Is buying now just as good, or are prices inflated and deals hard to find right now?
I would like to buy a new BBQ this summer but I am in no rush...I could even handle waiting until next winter and getting one for the following season.
chandans
Apr 12th, 2010, 12:35 PM
I had my HH Signet 90 transferred/ delivered in next day from an other HH store. Maybe try asking about that.
Nice, sounds delicous. Will be assembling mine tomorrow. Can't wait. Will remember to pre-heat to burn off the factory dust and oils...
FYI REMINDER - today is the last day for the the Signet 90 at HH for the $499.
and btw, did you guys get the $70 Sobeys GC with your purchase or any extra accessories??
i went in on the last day, was the 10th i believe. didnt get squat except the bbq. was told it would be three weeks until it comes in but i can cancel at anytime. figures, i might as well buy it now and if a better deal comes along ill cancel.
no sobeys card, no free tools, nothing. all he offered me was $10 off a cover. $45 down from $55. which strinks imo.
Not happy, guess ill be hitting up HD this weekend see if i can get something at a better price with teh %20 off.
isitin
Apr 12th, 2010, 12:56 PM
This is my first post...
I was at a HomeDepot today and the staff there told me that there is a BBQ Pre-Season sale coming up next Saturday, April 17. All BBQs $299 and up will have 20% off.
I was also told by my sales rep that it will only be on their cheaper lines not Weber.
isitin
Apr 12th, 2010, 12:57 PM
http://www.sears.ca/event/6889/1100390/0/0
A few bucks off at Sears... on Weber and BroilKing...
Sears Weber prices are the daily prices I sell Weber at every day. They are not SALE prices, believe me.
whampoa
Apr 12th, 2010, 01:19 PM
I was also told by my sales rep that it will only be on their cheaper lines not Weber.
Trust me, when HD and Rona have those % off sales on x amount and up BBQ.
It means all BBQ, no matter what your sales rep said.
isitin
Apr 12th, 2010, 01:47 PM
Trust me, when HD and Rona have those % off sales on x amount and up BBQ.
It means all BBQ, no matter what your sales rep said.
My reps company sells those bbqs to Home Depot............
arctics
Apr 12th, 2010, 01:55 PM
After using the Q 300 for the season, my only complaint was the lack of a warming rack. The Q 320 has this along with a handle light. Weber Canada is charging $43.40 for the light and $36.70 for the warming rack replacement parts, plus $10 shipping. Yikes!
http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/1f/1fe149fd-63de-4f6a-bdc7-e5dbb12d57f5_300.jpg
I ended up ordering the Weber Warming Rack for $19.99 (http://www.amazon.com/Weber-Q-6512-Warming-Rack/dp/B0036OQK2O/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1271089246&sr=8-3-catcorr) along with Weber's Way to Grill for $16.47 USD (http://www.amazon.com/Webers-Way-Grill-Step-Step/dp/0376020598/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271088023&sr=8-1) from Amazon.com with free shipping to a US mail receiver (Hagen's of Blaine)
http://store.weber.com/img/ecom/product/309551_lg.jpg
I'm ready for the BBQ season! :)
How's the Book? Worth the purchase?
VANTIS
Apr 12th, 2010, 01:55 PM
I was also told by my sales rep that it will only be on their cheaper lines not Weber.
last year, the Weber's were included in the sales
Majoram
Apr 12th, 2010, 02:03 PM
That's what I did last year. I bought it at $399 and waited for the next 20% BBQ sale. It happened after the 30 day price protection, but there is a 90 day refund policy so she just refunded it and did a new transaction.
Gotta love HD's no hassle return policy.
Was it in April? I want to buy the Weber Performer this month.
Just waiting to see if any sale happens before May.
Can anyone confirm if a sale is happening?
opilion
Apr 12th, 2010, 02:33 PM
http://www.sears.ca/event/6889/1100390/0/0
A few bucks off at Sears... on Weber and BroilKing...
The Broil King for $279 seems like a good deal - is it not? I'm surprised nobody has commented.
What model is this? What makes this grill worse than the BK that was $349 at Rona?
ThinkOutsideTheBox
Apr 12th, 2010, 02:39 PM
Hey -- don't mean to double post, but I think I may have more luck in this thread. Has anyone used the small coleman type propane canisters on a Weber Q 300? I was under the impression that I could use them, but called Weber today and they said they would only work on the small Q220 --> lower bbq models.
Anyone have any experience they can share?
Thanks.
Thimble
Apr 12th, 2010, 02:42 PM
The Broil King for $279 seems like a good deal - is it not? What model is this? I'm surprised nobody has commented.
Someone mentioned it already: it's a Crown 10.
I bought the NG model ($329).
The Signet 20 that people are getting is a better deal. However, a BBQ won't fit in my car, and buying it at Sears means I can dolly it to my condo.
ThinkOutsideTheBox
Apr 12th, 2010, 02:44 PM
Someone mentioned it already: it's a Crown 10.
I bought the NG model ($329).
The Signet 20 that people are getting is a better deal. However, a BBQ won't fit in my car, and buying it at Sears means I can dolly it to my condo.
You have a NG hookup at your condo.....lucky
Cech
Apr 12th, 2010, 02:52 PM
The Broil King for $279 seems like a good deal - is it not? I'm surprised nobody has commented.
What model is this? What makes this grill worse than the BK that was $349 at Rona?
That is a Crown 10, not the same at all. It has the H burners versus Dual tube and it's only a 2 burner vs 3 burner from Rona.
Broil Mate at $299 - 20% from Home depot this weekend is the best deal and ithas the same "mechanics" has the Rona BK Signet 20 at $399.
petah
Apr 12th, 2010, 03:02 PM
Someone mentioned it already: it's a Crown 10.
I bought the NG model ($329).
The Signet 20 that people are getting is a better deal. However, a BBQ won't fit in my car, and buying it at Sears means I can dolly it to my condo.
The Signet 70 fit into my car. :D (RSX) .... it *just* fit with about 1 inch to the hatch glass.
petah
Apr 12th, 2010, 03:02 PM
You'll be glad you got the rotisserie. I used it yesterday (Signet 90) and the chicken was AWESOME. A bit of homemade rub on the chicken, an onion (on the skewer and then inside the cavity of the chicken to hold it in place), and 20 minutes per pound on medium. Voila... Awesome!
Mmmm! You're making me wanting to set it up ASAP and get the gas line installed.
fugazi11
Apr 12th, 2010, 03:36 PM
That is a Crown 10, not the same at all. It has the H burners versus Dual tube and it's only a 2 burner vs 3 burner from Rona.
Broil Mate at $299 - 20% from Home depot this weekend is the best deal and ithas the same "mechanics" has the Rona BK Signet 20 at $399.
The propane broil-mates are available in the GTA when I spoke to Home Depot. Unfortunately I need natrual gas and they don't have any insight into when these would be available.
FrozenPegger
Apr 12th, 2010, 03:38 PM
Looking to replace my old cast aluminum portable grill. I use it for about 3 camping trips a year. I started looking at the Weber Q series in Grand Forks, ND this weekend and didn't realize the price in the States was so much cheaper. I didn't know the CDN prices until I got back. The Q 100 was $139 and Q 200 was $189 everywhere I looked. I see $249 and $349 here. I maybe shoulda bought one.
On a another note, does anyone have the "Grill Chef" Stainless Steel Portable (http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10314002&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA|114|22990|236&N=4010823&Mo=6&No=5&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=236&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&hierPath=114*22990*236*&topnav=) from costco. I saw it there for $49. at lunch today and it's probably more that what I need.
drb789
Apr 12th, 2010, 04:41 PM
The propane broil-mates are available in the GTA when I spoke to Home Depot. Unfortunately I need natrual gas and they don't have any insight into when these would be available.
I called the local HD a couple hours ago - and was told this model should be in this week.
This was the Barrie store
isitin
Apr 12th, 2010, 04:48 PM
The Broil King for $279 seems like a good deal - is it not? I'm surprised nobody has commented.
What model is this? What makes this grill worse than the BK that was $349 at Rona?
This is really only $20 off the regular price. Sears has a very inflated price on this. The Signet 20 is a better built bbq with better parts.
isitin
Apr 12th, 2010, 04:52 PM
That is a Crown 10, not the same at all. It has the H burners versus Dual tube and it's only a 2 burner vs 3 burner from Rona.
Broil Mate at $299 - 20% from Home depot this weekend is the best deal and ithas the same "mechanics" has the Rona BK Signet 20 at $399.
This is not the same grill, the Broil Mates are made in China & the Signet is made in Canada. The parts are NOT the same.
ipassgas
Apr 12th, 2010, 05:29 PM
My last Broil Mate lasted 9 years..... If a $279 decent BBQ will last 9 years, I really don't care where the parts are made....
sharkcalgary
Apr 12th, 2010, 05:48 PM
My last Broil Mate lasted 9 years..... If a $279 decent BBQ will last 9 years, I really don't care where the parts are made....
My cheap BBQ from Zellers lasted 13 years. I never covered it and left it out on my deck for the past 13 years. When I finally got myself a broil king this year and started to dismantle my old BBQ, I realized the BBQ was made in USA. This partly explained why it lasted so long.
Your last Broil Mate lasted 9 years, did you check where it was made?
nounou23
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:02 PM
We kinda decided to go with the broil mate @ 299$ @ homedepot. The LP one. With the 20% off it even nicer. Since the last bbq we had we almost never used the side burner this bbq should last us a while :)
Cech
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:11 PM
This is not the same grill, the Broil Mates are made in China & the Signet is made in Canada. The parts are NOT the same.
Broil Mate, Sterling and Broil King with the Cast Aluminum Fire box are all built in Canada, they share the same parts. Different models are created to avoid price matching between the big box stores, the same BBQ with different configurations = different models.
The Broil Mate stainless steel models are complete imports from china like most other 403 SS grills.
Skillz14
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:22 PM
We kinda decided to go with the broil mate @ 299$ @ homedepot. The LP one. With the 20% off it even nicer. Since the last bbq we had we almost never used the side burner this bbq should last us a while :)
Same here! Just picked one up from Home Depot and will be going back on the weekend for the price match. At 239 + tax (with 20% discount), you can't go wrong for a 3 burner Broil-Mate.
fugazi11
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:25 PM
This is not the same grill, the Broil Mates are made in China & the Signet is made in Canada. The parts are NOT the same.
The HD website has the country of origin as Canada.
isitin
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:37 PM
My last Broil Mate lasted 9 years..... If a $279 decent BBQ will last 9 years, I really don't care where the parts are made....
Your last Broil Mate was also made in Canada........
nounou23
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:38 PM
Same here! Just picked one up from Home Depot and will be going back on the weekend for the price match. At 239 + tax (with 20% discount), you can't go wrong for a 3 burner Broil-Mate.
I called my local HD and they told me the sale started on wednesday. :)
isitin
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:43 PM
The HD website has the country of origin as Canada.
The Broil Mates with the cast aluminum lids are made in Canada, the ones with the stainless lids are made in China.
nufan
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:45 PM
I called my local HD and they told me the sale started on wednesday. :)
I think the Broil Mate @ 20% off looks like a good match to me. Just curious, with everyone going for the $299 model, what does that have over the $199 model? It would seem the $199 has more cooking area, and the $299 changes are just cosmetic. Eg. doors on the front that must just be concealing the propane tank anyway. Anything else I'm missing? The $199 @ 20% off seems like a steal, gets great reviews too.
nounou23
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:51 PM
I think the Broil Mate @ 20% off looks like a good match to me. Just curious, with everyone going for the $299 model, what does that have over the $199 model? It would seem the $199 has more cooking area, and the $299 changes are just cosmetic. Eg. doors on the front that must just be concealing the propane tank anyway. Anything else I'm missing? The $199 @ 20% off seems like a steal, gets great reviews too.
20% off is for BBQ 299$ and up only :)
nufan
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:54 PM
20% off is for BBQ 299$ and up only :)
oh right on, but its still $40 more than the $199 model for less grilling space, and some design changes? Just trying to work out any other differences.
Also, is there any documentation yet that the sale is for sure this weekend?
bigsky2
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:56 PM
This is my first post...
I was at a HomeDepot today and the staff there told me that there is a BBQ Pre-Season sale coming up next Saturday, April 17. All BBQs $299 and up will have 20% off.
Awesome, thanks for the tip!
I was at HomeDepot this past weekend eyeing a Broil Mate that was around $399 (3 burner, side burner, 45K BTU).
Definitely will be there next weekend!
bigsky2
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:57 PM
I called my local HD and they told me the sale started on wednesday. :)
You mean it started last Wednesday April 7?
Or do you mean it will begin this Wednesday, April 14? :razz:
Cech
Apr 12th, 2010, 07:28 PM
oh right on, but its still $40 more than the $199 model for less grilling space, and some design changes? Just trying to work out any other differences.
Also, is there any documentation yet that the sale is for sure this weekend?
199 model is a 2 burner only and it uses the H style burner
299 model is a 3 burner and uses the dual tube system
malacus
Apr 12th, 2010, 07:37 PM
I am in the market for a portable BBQ. The Weber Q220 has caught my eye, but I cannot seem to find the difference between the Weber Q 220 566001 and 566002 models.
Has anyone ordered BBQ's from the states? Or had any success lowering the price of the BBQ's in Canada to reflect the dollar a bit more? The 566002 is on sale (through an amazon affiliate for $189.99 USD)
US Prices:
Weber Q220: $189.99
Stationary Cart: $ 79.99
Weber 6552 or 9932 Premium Grill Cover: $19.99
~ $290 USD + taxes + shipping + border
Although I live next to the border and often head down so I might be able to cut out two of those. I'd still rather buy locally from a smaller store.. but they need to make profit too.
The "local" small store I was hoping to do business at has the same products for a total of: $434 CAD + taxes... hopefully there is a middle ground.
nufan
Apr 12th, 2010, 08:01 PM
199 model is a 2 burner only and it uses the H style burner
299 model is a 3 burner and uses the dual tube system
Thanks for that! Makes sense now I look closer at the pictures on the HD site (3 dials vs 2). I'm assuming the "dual tube system" is better than the "H style burner" ?
RFDPants
Apr 12th, 2010, 08:17 PM
For those in the GTA - this was indicated in another post for patio furniture in Ontario. Broil Kings are shown on sale. Looks like mostly clearance.
http://www.southporthome.ca/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=44
RegalXL90 Lists Reg $749 sale $499
2009 Broil King Imperial 20 Clearance Lists Reg $949 sale $749
pete
Apr 12th, 2010, 08:24 PM
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909223&Ntt=909223&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113002&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
I think I'll go for this one if it's 20% off on the weekend.. $320+ tax would be nice..
Skillz14
Apr 12th, 2010, 08:47 PM
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909223&Ntt=909223&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=113002&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
I think I'll go for this one if it's 20% off on the weekend.. $320+ tax would be nice..
Apparently the stainless steel ones are made in China. Also the associate in the store said generally the heavy aluminum construction ones (i.e. the $299 Broil-Mate) usually last longer than the thinner stainless steel.
Tender
Apr 12th, 2010, 09:12 PM
Apparently the stainless steel ones are made in China. Also the associate in the store said generally the heavy aluminum construction ones (i.e. the $299 Broil-Mate) usually last longer than the thinner stainless steel.
Are you referring to this one (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=112996 4294966832&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber) ($299)? But it's stainless steel? The only aluminum one I see on HD website is the $199 one. Where did I go wrong?
Raddo
Apr 12th, 2010, 09:14 PM
4 days only, starting Thursday, April 15 - Sunday April 18 2010.
20% off any bbq $299 and up. ;):D
shoppingkart
Apr 12th, 2010, 09:20 PM
Are you referring to this one (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=112996 4294966832&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber) ($299)? But it's stainless steel? The only aluminum one I see on HD website is the $199 one. Where did I go wrong?
That one in your link is cast aluminum and not SS. The biggest difference between cast aluminum and SS is heat retention. Cast aluminum keep heat longer and more even temperature.
Tender
Apr 12th, 2010, 09:33 PM
That one in your link is cast aluminum and not SS. The biggest difference between cast aluminum and SS is heat retention. Cast aluminum keep heat longer and more even temperature.
Thanks. I see. It's referring to the body, not the cover, correct? I was just looking at the covers in the pictures.
Skillz14
Apr 12th, 2010, 09:37 PM
Are you referring to this one (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=112996 4294966832&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber) ($299)? But it's stainless steel? The only aluminum one I see on HD website is the $199 one. Where did I go wrong?
Just like shoppingkart said, its aluminum it just looks like its stainless steel because the exterior is wrapped in it.
shoppingkart
Apr 12th, 2010, 09:38 PM
Thanks. I see. It's referring to the body, not the cover, correct? I was just looking at the covers in the pictures.
The lid has a thin SS insert for decoration only
jon-calgary
Apr 13th, 2010, 12:16 AM
I am in the market for a portable BBQ. The Weber Q220 has caught my eye, but I cannot seem to find the difference between the Weber Q 220 566001 and 566002 models.
Has anyone ordered BBQ's from the states? Or had any success lowering the price of the BBQ's in Canada to reflect the dollar a bit more? The 566002 is on sale (through an amazon affiliate for $189.99 USD)
US Prices:
Weber Q220: $189.99
Stationary Cart: $ 79.99
Weber 6552 or 9932 Premium Grill Cover: $19.99
~ $290 USD + taxes + shipping + border
Although I live next to the border and often head down so I might be able to cut out two of those. I'd still rather buy locally from a smaller store.. but they need to make profit too.
The "local" small store I was hoping to do business at has the same products for a total of: $434 CAD + taxes... hopefully there is a middle ground.
Since HD will have a 20% discount, Q220 will be $240 during sale. But I'm still thinking if I should bite it or wait for the Sears sale, as this model went for about $190.
nounou23
Apr 13th, 2010, 06:45 AM
Can anyone find the Broil-Mate 44,000 BTU Cabinet Propane Barbecue Model: 11655 from Homedepot @ 299$ on the broilmate website?
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
fugazi11
Apr 13th, 2010, 07:39 AM
Can anyone find the Broil-Mate 44,000 BTU Cabinet Propane Barbecue Model: 11655 from Homedepot @ 299$ on the broilmate website?
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
No it's not on there....you are better off looking at the Broil king Signet 20 webpage.
nounou23
Apr 13th, 2010, 07:43 AM
No it's not on there....you are better off looking at the Broil king Signet 20 webpage.
Thanks for the info.
I called my local HD to see if there was any in stock and there was. I asked if I could buy it today since I came down with our jeep and then go back to get a price adjustment and he said they didn't recommend that.
The last time I bought 1000$ of flooring there I was told by their customer service to come back the week after to get 10% off because of a new promo that was starting up... so I might go see customer service again :)
potzie
Apr 13th, 2010, 08:39 AM
Has anyone seen a recent deal on the Broil King Sovereign 70? I'm looking for the natural gas version, model # 987737.
I'm looking to buy it right away.
Thanks
+1
I'd like to find the same deal with the same need to purchase sooner rather than later. I can't stand not having a BBQ currently.
Raddo
Apr 13th, 2010, 10:40 AM
+1
I'd like to find the same deal with the same need to purchase sooner rather than later. I can't stand not having a BBQ currently.
+2! Thanks for any info! :D
murjaan
Apr 13th, 2010, 11:17 AM
Are you referring to this one (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=112996 4294966832&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber) ($299)? But it's stainless steel? The only aluminum one I see on HD website is the $199 one. Where did I go wrong?
This is a great BBQ. bought last year when it was on sale. I think its made in Canada
swaghunter
Apr 13th, 2010, 11:39 AM
Can anyone find the Broil-Mate 44,000 BTU Cabinet Propane Barbecue Model: 11655 from Homedepot @ 299$ on the broilmate website?
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
I think I'm pretty much sold on this Broil-Mate one from Home Depot.
After reading this thread for sooo very long, which everyone pretty much only recommends sticking to Broil-Kings or Webers, this bbq seems quality enuff for me.
If this one's made in Canada, "supposedly" has the same parts as a Broil-King (Signet 20 to be exact), and will be under $250 this weekend, sign me up :cheesygri
nounou23
Apr 13th, 2010, 12:11 PM
I think I'm pretty much sold on this Broil-Mate one from Home Depot.
After reading this thread for sooo very long, which everyone pretty much only recommends sticking to Broil-Kings or Webers, this bbq seems quality enuff for me.
If this one's made in Canada, "supposedly" has the same parts as a Broil-King (Signet 20 to be exact), and will be under $250 this weekend, sign me up :cheesygri
yep me too I'm sold. It's very nice looking, good warranty and good brand.
I finally found a use for my petro points and pc points. Bought some Home Dept gift cards this morning to pay for part of it when the sale will be on :)
cami38
Apr 13th, 2010, 01:04 PM
confusion, confusion.
but i think i finally have it narrowed down.
home depot with 20% off
- broilmate 116554
- broilmate 735269
- broilmate 738989
- weber E310
- weber E320
home hardware
- broilking signet20/or rona
- broilking signet90
- broilking sovereign90
i want a great deal for the money, but also something that will last for many years that i can keep outside in the winter. hubby also bbq's A LOT in the summer
help please!!
pipe77
Apr 13th, 2010, 01:20 PM
confusion, confusion.
but i think i finally have it narrowed down.
home depot with 20% off
- broilmate 116554
- broilmate 735269
- broilmate 738989
- weber E310
- weber E320
home hardware
- broilking signet20/or rona
- broilking signet90
- broilking sovereign90
i want a great deal for the money, but also something that will last for many years that i can keep outside in the winter. hubby also bbq's A LOT in the summer
help please!!
I bought the Signet 20, but had to be ordered in, will be picking up in the next day or 2. Reasons I went for this one - Heavy grids, aluminum cast oven should last long time. Purchased a Crown 20 for my dad a couple years ago, really good basic BBQ - so i can vouch for Broil King. Also like the look of it. I also didn't want to pay extra money for things I wouldn't use. I'm replacing an 8yr old Fiesta piece of junk that had rotisserie and side burners. Used rotisserie once, side burner twice in 8 years. Yet I probably BBQ over 100 times per year. Just more things to go wrong IMO.
fugazi11
Apr 13th, 2010, 01:42 PM
yep me too I'm sold. It's very nice looking, good warranty and good brand.
I finally found a use for my petro points and pc points. Bought some Home Dept gift cards this morning to pay for part of it when the sale will be on :)
Very jealous....I was sold one this one as well, but can't find the natural gas version in the GTA. Home Depot doesn't seem to have a lot of selection (online that is) of natural gas.
Cech
Apr 13th, 2010, 02:33 PM
confusion, confusion.
but i think i finally have it narrowed down.
home depot with 20% off
- broilmate 116554
- broilmate 735269
- broilmate 738989
- weber E310
- weber E320
home hardware
- broilking signet20/or rona
- broilking signet90
- broilking sovereign90
i want a great deal for the money, but also something that will last for many years that i can keep outside in the winter. hubby also bbq's A LOT in the summer
help please!!
My opinion, the best deals are on the BroilMate 116554 for $240 (299 reg) or the Weber E320 for $720 (899 reg). Wife likes the Weber....me happy:D
MS MSP
Apr 13th, 2010, 03:34 PM
+1
I'd like to find the same deal with the same need to purchase sooner rather than later. I can't stand not having a BBQ currently.
+2! Thanks for any info! :D
I saw the Sovereign 70 in person at Rona last night.
They didn't have the NG in stock.
No sale on either. The propane was $698 and the NG is $748.
It's a nice piece, but I think I am going to go with a Weber Genesis instead.
I am looking at the S310 or S320 now.
The S320 will be $1000 after the 20% discount at Home Depot this weekend.
To me, the build quality looked better on the Weber. The weight alone was a huge difference.
I figure if I'm going to drop this sort of coin, I might as well go all-in and buy something that may very well last my lifetime.
I don't care about the rotisserie and would prefer to not have a side burner, but that's me. My stove is 6 feet away from my patio.
I may drop into Rona to see if they'll do 20% off the Sovereign 70 this weekend while the Home Depot sale is on.
Inno
Apr 13th, 2010, 04:08 PM
I figure if I'm going to drop this sort of coin, I might as well go all-in and buy something that may very well last my lifetime.
What is the track record for being able to obtain replacement burners and valves etc. for these barbeques?
I had a beautiful Falcon with cast steel grills, cast burner and a very large heavy case aluminum box that was about 15 years old. But I could not find replacment parts for it. When both the valves went I had to toss it.
A lifetime is a long time...
Trigger
Apr 13th, 2010, 04:10 PM
Hey guys,
Just my two cents.. converting from LP to NG is pretty easy. When I bought the LP Broil-Mate (3-burner + side) for $299 last year from HD, my big concern was converting over to Natural Gas. I called some NG specialists, and only one returned my call. He was adamant that I should do it myself. He said it wasn't worth his time or my money to have him come and do something that (in his words) takes 15 minutes.
That being said, eventually I gave up on looking for someone to help me on this, and me and my father in law did it. Took us under an hour (about 40 minutes), and we did verifications for leakage and everything. No problems so far.
While it is DANGEROUS to do it yourself if you're completely clueless, if you have some common sense, and do your checks for leakage, it's really not a problem. While I don't want to be held responsible for anyone blowing up their house.. I do recommend giving it a try with a friend.
Trigg
VANTIS
Apr 13th, 2010, 04:20 PM
I don't care about the rotisserie and would prefer to not have a side burner, but that's me. My stove is 6 feet away from my patio.
side burner is great for cooking spatter foods (like bacon). I have the ep320 and never thought i would use the side burner but i do, often.
chenwaa123
Apr 13th, 2010, 05:09 PM
Hey guys,
Just my two cents.. converting from LP to NG is pretty easy. When I bought the LP Broil-Mate (3-burner + side) for $299 last year from HD, my big concern was converting over to Natural Gas. I called some NG specialists, and only one returned my call. He was adamant that I should do it myself. He said it wasn't worth his time or my money to have him come and do something that (in his words) takes 15 minutes.
That being said, eventually I gave up on looking for someone to help me on this, and me and my father in law did it. Took us under an hour (about 40 minutes), and we did verifications for leakage and everything. No problems so far.
While it is DANGEROUS to do it yourself if you're completely clueless, if you have some common sense, and do your checks for leakage, it's really not a problem. While I don't want to be held responsible for anyone blowing up their house.. I do recommend giving it a try with a friend.
Trigg
Just to post this for the record.
Weber will NO longer provide parts to convert from/to NG/LP...due to liability issues. Don't bother asking they won't help. Its easy to do and there are kits available on ebay. I'm going to have my brother in-law convert my existing LP model (he has a gas ticket).
dchamber
Apr 13th, 2010, 08:07 PM
Thanks for the info.
I called my local HD to see if there was any in stock and there was. I asked if I could buy it today since I came down with our jeep and then go back to get a price adjustment and he said they didn't recommend that.
The last time I bought 1000$ of flooring there I was told by their customer service to come back the week after to get 10% off because of a new promo that was starting up... so I might go see customer service again :)
I've been waiting for a sale on the Weber Performer. I noticed the flyer on Home Depot website this morning showing the 20% off sale starting on the 15th. I also noticed that you can purchase it on their HD Consumer Credit Card and defer payment for 6 months with no admin fees, so I hopped over there at lunch to apply for a card. When we were just about done, the agent asked me if I wanted to purchase something today since you get $20 off anything in the store when you get a new HD card. When I said I should have waited until the sale started to apply for the card so I could get an additional $20 off, she put the bbq on the card today for lay-away, and told me to come back on Friday to pick it up and she will take the $20 off as well as the 20% savings.
Yeehaw....I was worried the performer might sell out before I made it in to the store, and instead, I now have one on lay-away and end up getting an additional $20 off.
nufan
Apr 13th, 2010, 08:21 PM
So confused, was in Home Depot tonight and the $299 broil mate was a 2 burner with the dual H burner, yet on the website its clearly a 3 burner. Does stock vary by location? :confused:
nounou23
Apr 13th, 2010, 08:36 PM
So confused, was in Home Depot tonight and the $299 broil mate was a 2 burner with the dual H burner, yet on the website its clearly a 3 burner. Does stock vary by location? :confused:
There seem to be 2 version of the broil mate 299$ BBQ because i saw one with the H burner and the other one with 3 burner for the same price at my local HD. I think the H burner is last year model. Thats what i understood from the salesman
Cech
Apr 13th, 2010, 09:04 PM
There seem to be 2 version of the broil mate 299$ BBQ because i saw one with the H burner and the other one with 3 burner for the same price at my local HD. I think the H burner is last year model. Thats what i understood from the salesman
Yup saw the same thing, actually it was the two burner model in front of a 3 burner display panel :|
At Rona I saw a Sterling model exactly like the Broilmate at HD for $299, 3 tube burner with PCI grates, sam style and color just a different badge. Box said made in Canada.
Cech
Apr 13th, 2010, 09:13 PM
BTW, flyer is out on the website and it clearly shows all models above $299 will be on sale
:!:Just a word of caution, try to stay away from the Broilmate all SS models, those are not "Broil King" quality, they are complete China imports. You just might as well buy a CharmGlow or a Walmart grill.:!:
I'm gonna get me the Weber E-320 :razz:, just don't know how to get it home. Maybe just empty the contents of the huge box into the car.:|:confused:
OttawaWest
Apr 13th, 2010, 10:04 PM
I'm gonna get me the Weber E-320 :razz:, just don't know how to get it home. Maybe just empty the contents of the huge box into the car.:|:confused:
That's exactly what we did! :). We managed to fit all the pieces in our Toyota Camry. Even the folded box and all the cardboard that came with it!
voodoo401
Apr 14th, 2010, 05:48 AM
There seem to be 2 version of the broil mate 299$ BBQ because i saw one with the H burner and the other one with 3 burner for the same price at my local HD. I think the H burner is last year model. Thats what i understood from the salesman
So there is not difference between the 199 broil mate and the 299 other then the 199 one has a bigger grilling area?
nounou23
Apr 14th, 2010, 06:04 AM
So there is not difference between the 199 broil mate and the 299 other then the 199 one has a bigger grilling area?
What I was talking about is the LP Broilmate at 299$. Some store still seem to carry last year model and it has a 2 Burner system compare to this year 3 burner.
bofh
Apr 14th, 2010, 06:16 AM
Just got a bunch of flyers and it looks like this is BBQ sale week.
Notables:
Home Depot's 20% off $299 and up BBQs (in stock)
All Napoleon Ted Readers Grills at Canadian Tire ($100-150 reduction)
Napoleon Prestige I 450 at Home Hardware at $699.99
Bunch of Broil-Kings at Reno-Depot and Rona
Happy hunting :-)
BobTheSnake
Apr 14th, 2010, 07:17 AM
What is the main difference between the 199 broilmate and the 299 broilmate (on sale at 249) @ HD. Just want to know if it's worth it to spend the 50$ more or not.
slaminrajah
Apr 14th, 2010, 07:43 AM
I've been looking for a decent barbecue and found the Nexgrill 4 burner at Costco. It was $549 online but when I went to the store, Woodbine and Hwy 7, it was $399. I picked one up and it's great. Has a side burner, rotisserie, and searing burner. 67,000 BTU in total.
http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10334201&search=191178&topnav=&Mo=0&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-CA&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&N=0&whse=BCCA&Dx=mode%20matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ne=4000000&D=191178&Ntt=191178&No=0&Nty=1&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial
Triqueux
Apr 14th, 2010, 08:01 AM
:!:Just a word of caution, try to stay away from the Broilmate all SS models, those are not "Broil King" quality, they are complete China imports. You just might as well buy a CharmGlow or a Walmart grill.:!:
Which Broilmate barbecue are referring to? The one at 299$ at HD?
nounou23
Apr 14th, 2010, 08:18 AM
Which Broilmate barbecue are referring to? The one at 299$ at HD?
I think it's the one with Stainless Steel tops. I went to HD last night to see them and to be honest they feel cheap. When you lift the cover it wobbles.
I still have my 7 year old centros BBQ at home that need all new part but the casing / cover is so heavy and doesn't feel cheap like these one.
That's why I will settle for the 299$ BBQ
Cech
Apr 14th, 2010, 08:23 AM
What is the main difference between the 199 broilmate and the 299 broilmate (on sale at 249) @ HD. Just want to know if it's worth it to spend the 50$ more or not.
As I stated on page 123 (please read last few pages, to avoid re-posts):
199 model is a 2 burner only and it uses the H style burner
299 model is a 3 burner and uses the dual tube system
Cech
Apr 14th, 2010, 08:27 AM
i think it's the one with stainless steel tops. I went to hd last night to see them and to be honest they feel cheap. When you lift the cover it wobbles.
I still have my 7 year old centros bbq at home that need all new part but the casing / cover is so heavy and doesn't feel cheap like these one.
That's why i will settle for the 299$ bbq
+1
potzie
Apr 14th, 2010, 09:47 AM
I saw the Sovereign 70 in person at Rona last night.
They didn't have the NG in stock.
No sale on each. The propage was $698 and the NG is $748.
It's a nice piece, but I think I am going to go with a Weber Genesis instead.
I am looking at the S310 or S320 now.
The S320 will be $1000 after the 20% discount at Home Depot this weekend.
To me, the build quality looked better on the Weber. The weight alone was a huge difference.
I figure if I'm going to drop this sort of coin, I might as well go all-in and buy something that may very well last my lifetime.
I don't care about the rotisserie and would prefer to not have a side burner, but that's me. My stove is 6 feet away from my patio.
I may drop into Rona to see if they'll do 20% off the Sovereign 70 this weekend while the Home Depot sale is on.
I was thinking of doing the same to see if Rona would match the 20% off. I don't want the side burner, but use the rotisserie about 5 times per year and it's a Christmas tradition that I do the roast on the BBQ which we missed this year because of no hook-up at the time and the state of my previous BBQ. I would like to reinstitute the tradition this year.
Let me know if you have any success with Rona and I will do the same.
We went to HD last night and the wife wants the S320 as she likes the all SS inside which I shouldn't complain about, but it doesn't have a rotisserie burner and I'd have to do indirect with just an add-on motor.
pauldryan
Apr 14th, 2010, 10:14 AM
The Weber Genesis S-320 is available online at Walmart.com for $849 (USD) and can be shipped to the closest border Walmart for instore pickup. They've also got the copper or black E-320 for $699. The copper E320 is a nice alternative to avoid the issues with stainless steel maintenance and is made in the US whereas the black E-320 and stainless steel S-320 may or may not be imported according to Walmart's detailed descriptions.
If you live reasonably close to the border this might be a pretty good alternative. Even with the 20% off at Home Depot, the S-320 will still be $150 bucks cheaper to pick up. I believe the US made BBQ's will be duty free(?)
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Weber-Genesis-E-320-Copper-LP-Gas-Grill-w-Side-Burner/10756104#ProductDetail
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad90/pauldryan/Redflagdeals/0007792408221_215X215.jpg
Cech
Apr 14th, 2010, 10:22 AM
I was thinking of doing the same to see if Rona would match the 20% off. I don't want the side burner, but use the rotisserie about 5 times per year and it's a Christmas tradition that I do the roast on the BBQ which we missed this year because of no hook-up at the time and the state of my previous BBQ. I would like to reinstitute the tradition this year.
Let me know if you have any success with Rona and I will do the same.
We went to HD last night and the wife wants the S320 as she likes the all SS inside which I shouldn't complain about, but it doesn't have a rotisserie burner and I'd have to do indirect with just an add-on motor.
Same here, i was debating the EP310 from Rona but most likely picking up the E320 from HD. I prefer the black enamel on the outside, less to clean ;), and I love the cast iron grates with the great searing properties compared to SS grates. Only con is the steel flavorizing bars in the E320 will rust compared to the SS ones in the EP320, so I will replace them once they rust through with SS bars.
:razz: $89 in the US for a set.
Can't wait till tomorrow:)
Cech
Apr 14th, 2010, 10:26 AM
The Weber Genesis S-320 is available online at Walmart.com for $849 (USD) and can be shipped to the closest border Walmart for instore pickup. They've also got the copper or black E-320 for $699. The copper E320 is a nice alternative to avoid the issues with stainless steel maintenance and is made in the US whereas the black E-320 and stainless steel S-320 may or may not be imported according to Walmart's detailed descriptions.
If you live reasonably close to the border this might be a pretty good alternative. Even with the 20% off at Home Depot, the S-320 will still be $150 bucks cheaper to pick up. I believe the US made BBQ's will be duty free(?)
The E320 from home Depot will be 719 CDN and it is definately US made. All Genesis models are made in the US. Weber confused everyone by releasing the same model numbers (E310 & E320) on their Spirit line which is an import.
BCguy2
Apr 14th, 2010, 11:38 AM
FWIW, when I bought my Weber a few years ago. The Home Depot models were a cheaper version of what was at:
http://www.barbecuecountry.com/
porcelain grills and flavorizer bars verse Stainless Steel etc.
Cech
Apr 14th, 2010, 11:51 AM
FWIW, when I bought my Weber a few years ago. The Home Depot models were a cheaper version of what was at:
http://www.barbecuecountry.com/
porcelain grills and flavorizer bars verse Stainless Steel etc.
Disagree, they're just differnet models. An S-320 at Home Depot is the same as S-320 from "Babecue***". The E-320 is not available at that store but you pay for what you get with Weber, I prefer the cast iron grates and a sideburner on the E-320, and at $719....no brainer. :) I can always switch the flavorizor bars for SS ones after the warranty.
98vtec
Apr 14th, 2010, 12:11 PM
Disagree, they're just differnet models. An S-320 at Home Depot is the same as S-320 from "Babecue***". The E-320 is not available at that store but you pay for what you get with Weber, I prefer the cast iron grates and a sideburner on the E-320, and at $719....no brainer. :) I can always switch the flavorizor bars for SS ones after the warranty.
+1.. They are different models.. E-310, E-320 vs. EP-310, EP-320..
The EP models have the stainless steel flavorizor bars and cooking grates..
BCguy2
Apr 14th, 2010, 12:28 PM
Disagree, they're just differnet models. An S-320 at Home Depot is the same as S-320 from "Babecue***". The E-320 is not available at that store but you pay for what you get with Weber, I prefer the cast iron grates and a sideburner on the E-320, and at $719....no brainer. :) I can always switch the flavorizor bars for SS ones after the warranty.
That was the point, just because the two BBQ's (may) look similar...they're not.
cami38
Apr 14th, 2010, 12:29 PM
so i can't figure out why i would want to pay more for the same thing.
eg. the broil mate 116554/broil king signet 20 - are similar to the weber E320, at less than half the price.
wondering, if i really want to pay more should i get the broil king sovereign 70/90 or 90xls, which all come with more btu and cooking space.
is weber THAT much better in quality??
rocking23nf
Apr 14th, 2010, 12:35 PM
Cami when you come back in 4 years looking for a new BBQ, I will still be using my Weber.
nounou23
Apr 14th, 2010, 12:57 PM
My neighbor told me he bought a BBQ and paid almost 2000$ for it last year. He said he had lifetime warranty on it no question ask so if any part would need to be changed they would change it without question.
So it got me thinking. When buying a good BBQ, yes it will last a long time etc.
Let say a 1000$ last 10 year and a 200$ BBQ last 3 years.
So just buy 5 BBQ @ 200$ and it will last you 15 years :)
It's almost like a computer. After you a while you get tired of it so you want to change it :)
WildPegasus
Apr 14th, 2010, 12:58 PM
Cami when you come back in 4 years looking for a new BBQ, I will still be using my Weber.
Broil Mates/Kings aren't disposable grills. My parents have been using their Broilmate for almost 20 years.
rocking23nf
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:04 PM
My neighbor told me he bought a BBQ and paid almost 2000$ for it last year. He said he had lifetime warranty on it no question ask so if any part would need to be changed they would change it without question.
So it got me thinking. When buying a good BBQ, yes it will last a long time etc.
Let say a 1000$ last 10 year and a 200$ BBQ last 3 years.
So just buy 5 BBQ @ 200$ and it will last you 15 years :)
It's almost like a computer. After you a while you get tired of it so you want to change it :)
cooking is alot different also. My old crappy bbq lost its even heating ability in the first 6 months. Sucks cooking steak or chicken when you cold and hot zones.
cami38
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:05 PM
just figured out. on the HD website is says that the E-320 is a genesis model. not so! when you go to the weber site it shows that it is actually a spirit model.
the spirits are E-310/20 - HD is charging $200 for a side burner, the only difference between the two models
the genesis are EP-310/20
the only true genesis at HD is the S-320
plus i'm sure the spirit models are not made in two different facilities with the side burner being the only difference. which means that they are both made in china, not u.s. like the e-320 states.
so what about those broil king sovereigns now that i can't afford the weber?
Cech
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:06 PM
My neighbor told me he bought a BBQ and paid almost 2000$ for it last year. He said he had lifetime warranty on it no question ask so if any part would need to be changed they would change it without question.
So it got me thinking. When buying a good BBQ, yes it will last a long time etc.
Let say a 1000$ last 10 year and a 200$ BBQ last 3 years.
So just buy 5 BBQ @ 200$ and it will last you 15 years :)
It's almost like a computer. After you a while you get tired of it so you want to change it :)
Yes, but you can also buy a computer today that could barely run Windows 95 for $299 and a computer that speeds through with Windows 7 for $1500.
They can last the same time and give you the same monetary return but at what expense...quality, enjoyment etc..
Da Mango
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:17 PM
anyone know where deals can be had for a Weber Performer charcoal bbq?
HoTnickZ
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:22 PM
So are the Broilmates at 20% of not worth it due to the China import factor?
If so what's the best bang for your back bbq deal out right now.
Cech
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:27 PM
just figured out. on the HD website is says that the E-320 is a genesis model. not so! when you go to the weber site it shows that it is actually a spirit model.
the spirits are E-310/20 - HD is charging $200 for a side burner, the only difference between the two models
the genesis are EP-310/20
the only true genesis at HD is the S-320
plus i'm sure the spirit models are not made in two different facilities with the side burner being the only difference. which means that they are both made in china, not u.s. like the e-320 states.
so what about those broil king sovereigns now that i can't afford the weber?
What? Can you please read through this thread before posting!!
Here is a link to the Weber Genesis E-320:
http://www.weber.com/grills/?glid=2&mid=6
Home Depot also sells the Spirit E-310 for $699
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jbarns
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:27 PM
So are the Broilmates at 20% of not worth it due to the China import factor?
If so what's the best bang for your back bbq deal out right now.
i think this is a good deal.. home hardware has a sterling bbq that is pretty much the same as the BK one that was on sale at Rona
http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I6421143/name/bbq_propane_2brnr_635_strl
# 44,000 BTU stainless steel burner system
# - 635 sq. in. total cooking surface including
chrome coated warming rack
# - 400 sq. in. primary cooking surface
# - Porcelain coated cast iron cooking grids
# - Stainless steel Flav-R-Wave cooking system
# - Linear Flow valves
# - Sure-Lite electronic ignition system
# - Deluxe Accu-Temp thermometer
# - Therma-Cast aluminum oven with stainless
steel wrap
# - Black chrome epoxy painted cabinet doors and
control panel
# - Large Perma-Mold drop down side shelves
with integrated tool hooks and condiment bins
# - Heavy duty cabinet with enclosed storage
# - 7" wheels with decorative white walls and 2.5"
locking casters
# - Reddi-Bilt assembly system
# - Rust resistant zinc coated steel components
# - Quality epoxy paint finish
# - Cool-To-The-Touch thermonylon handle
# - Stainless steel spider guards
67mike
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:29 PM
so i can't figure out why i would want to pay more for the same thing.
eg. the broil mate 116554/broil king signet 20 - are similar to the weber E320, at less than half the price.
wondering, if i really want to pay more should i get the broil king sovereign 70/90 or 90xls, which all come with more btu and cooking space.
is weber THAT much better in quality??
Weber is not higher quality than Broil King. Simply different beasts.
cami38
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:31 PM
1. cech, could you be less rude!!! - i am not rreading through 128 pages. i went back 20 or so.
2. when you go to the Canadian weber site it shows that the E-320 is a spirit model. the u.s. site shows the E320 as a genesis.
with us being in canada i would assume HD would have canadian models. but you know what they say about assuming.
Big D
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:33 PM
so i can't figure out why i would want to pay more for the same thing.
eg. the broil mate 116554/broil king signet 20 - are similar to the weber E320, at less than half the price.
wondering, if i really want to pay more should i get the broil king sovereign 70/90 or 90xls, which all come with more btu and cooking space.
is weber THAT much better in quality??
BTU is meaningless if the components can't keep the heat.
I had a Broil King (Signet 20) up until last year when I bought an S-320. The two grills are not even comparable. For starters the difference in build quality blew me away. My Weber seems indestructible! In terms of grilling performance, there is such a profound difference. The grids hold heat better, the oven holds heat and regains heat lost when you open the list much faster. If you tried it yourself you would see why people are so adamant that the Weber is remarkably better.
Having said that....the only reason I got rid of my Broil King was because the wind blew it off my deck and the corner of the lid cracked... :)
Cech
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:34 PM
i think this is a good deal.. home hardware has a sterling bbq that is pretty much the same as the BK one that was on sale at Rona
http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I6421143/name/bbq_propane_2brnr_635_strl
# 44,000 BTU stainless steel burner system
# - 635 sq. in. total cooking surface including
chrome coated warming rack
# - 400 sq. in. primary cooking surface
# - Porcelain coated cast iron cooking grids
# - Stainless steel Flav-R-Wave cooking system
# - Linear Flow valves
# - Sure-Lite electronic ignition system
# - Deluxe Accu-Temp thermometer
# - Therma-Cast aluminum oven with stainless
steel wrap
# - Black chrome epoxy painted cabinet doors and
control panel
# - Large Perma-Mold drop down side shelves
with integrated tool hooks and condiment bins
# - Heavy duty cabinet with enclosed storage
# - 7" wheels with decorative white walls and 2.5"
locking casters
# - Reddi-Bilt assembly system
# - Rust resistant zinc coated steel components
# - Quality epoxy paint finish
# - Cool-To-The-Touch thermonylon handle
# - Stainless steel spider guards
Thatt exact Sterling model is $299 at Rona, and is identical to the Broil Mate at $299 -20% =$240
Best bang for the buck - Broil Mate for $240
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
Big D
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:35 PM
Weber is not higher quality than Broil King. Simply different beasts.
It depends on the models......some models are much higher quality....but not all.
nounou23
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:37 PM
Yes, but you can also buy a computer today that could barely run Windows 95 for $299 and a computer that speeds through with Windows 7 for $1500.
They can last the same time and give you the same monetary return but at what expense...quality, enjoyment etc..
I don't think you've been on RFD long enough :)
charoo
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:38 PM
Just like everyone else, I am looking for a little advice:
Do I go for the Broil-Mate (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909223&Ntt=909223&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber)from HD at $399 - 20% = $319.20 + Tax
OR
Do I go for the Broil King Signet 20 (http://www.bbqing.com/store/shop/showproduct.cfm?id=78&catid=2&subid=18&startrow=1&urlclass=1&html=Signet_20_78.html) at $399.99 + Tax?
There is also the Crown 40 (http://www.bbqing.com/store/shop/showproduct.cfm?id=147&catid=2&subid=18&startrow=13&urlclass=1&html=Crown_40<br>_with_Side_burner_147.html) at $399 + Tax
These are all within my price comfort zone. Thanks to all that provide suggestions.
nounou23
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:41 PM
Just like everyone else, I am looking for a little advice:
Do I go for the Broil-Mate (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=909223&Ntt=909223&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber)from HD at $399 - 20% = $319.20 + Tax
OR
Do I go for the Broil King Signet 20 (http://www.bbqing.com/store/shop/showproduct.cfm?id=78&catid=2&subid=18&startrow=1&urlclass=1&html=Signet_20_78.html) at $399.99 + Tax?
There is also the Crown 40 (http://www.bbqing.com/store/shop/showproduct.cfm?id=147&catid=2&subid=18&startrow=13&urlclass=1&html=Crown_40<br>_with_Side_burner_147.html) at $399 + Tax
These are all within my price comfort zone. Thanks to all that provide suggestions.
I was very interested in the broilmate at 399$ from homedepot until I went and seen it last night. The cover feels very cheap. When I opened the cover it was wobbly. Going for the 299 model - 20% off :) Looks kinda like the signet 20.
jbarns
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:42 PM
Thatt exact Sterling model is $299 at Rona, and is identical to the Broil Mate at $299 -20% =$240
Best bang for the buck - Broil Mate for $240
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=916294&Ntt=916294&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&storeId=10051&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber
right keep forgetting about HD 20%, i can't believe that broil mate has the exact same model as BK for $50 cheaper.. i guess i paid for the brand:(
jbarns
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:43 PM
I was very interested in the broilmate at 399$ from homedepot until I went and seen it last night. The cover feels very cheap. When I opened the cover it was wobbly. Going for the 299 model - 20% off :) Looks kinda like the signet 20.
that broil mate version is made in china.. enough said
charoo
Apr 14th, 2010, 01:48 PM
I was very interested in the broilmate at 399$ from homedepot until I went and seen it last night. The cover feels very cheap. When I opened the cover it was wobbly. Going for the 299 model - 20% off :) Looks kinda like the signet 20.
That was my concern when I saw it today. One of the reviews mentions that when you assemble it yourself, it is a lot sturdier.
I don't like the fact that it has the Porcelain coated Flav-R-Wave while the $299 model has SS Flav-R-Wave.
The Crown and Signet have SS but I like the look of the 4 casters and SS Hood - but then again I am cooking with it not putting it beside a bunch of other BBQs at the mall parking lot like the cars the kids line up there.
charoo
Apr 14th, 2010, 02:03 PM
that broil mate version is made in china.. enough said
So this is what I am confused about - OMC (http://www.omcbbq.com/) is the "distributor/mfr" as per their site:
Onward Manufacturing continues to manufacture and distribute gas barbecue grills and accessories throughout Canada, the USA and around the world under the brands Broil King, Broil-mate, Sterling, Barbecue Genius and GrillPro. It also remains the sole Canadian importer and distributor for Weber barbecue grills and accessories and is the Canadian distributor of Ducane Gas Grills.
So what is the reality on the different lines? One person I spoke to keeps saying that although the HD Broil King lineup is built in China, it is made to Canadian standards while the Amana is a Canadian company but their products are built in China but NOT to Canadian standards.
desi2007
Apr 14th, 2010, 02:03 PM
Went to HD to check out the BBQ. They don't have much selection for Natural Gas. Now, I am totally confused what to buy.
After reading many posts in this thread...I was looking forward to purchasing Broil King Natural gas for around $349 - 20%.
They didn't have any NG models available....the propane model I saw has 2 H burners and not tube burners. The propane model is listed for $299.
The Webers I saw looked good but they are much more money. The specs show they have less BTU than the Broil King or Broil Mate etc.
I don't need side burger or rotisserie. What would be the best value Weber?
How does Weber E310 Genesis Natural Gas model for $ 709 CDN + Taxes sound (from Canadian Appliance).
Is there anything else that would be better value for that kind of money.
tr4ck
Apr 14th, 2010, 02:30 PM
Anyone know when the Broil King Signet 20 will go on sale again? The Rona coupon expired yesterday.
Thanks!
Cech
Apr 14th, 2010, 03:09 PM
Went to HD to check out the BBQ. They don't have much selection for Natural Gas. Now, I am totally confused what to buy.
After reading many posts in this thread...I was looking forward to purchasing Broil King Natural gas for around $349 - 20%.
They didn't have any NG models available....the propane model I saw has 2 H burners and not tube burners. The propane model is listed for $299.
The Webers I saw looked good but they are much more money. The specs show they have less BTU than the Broil King or Broil Mate etc.
I don't need side burger or rotisserie. What would be the best value Weber?
How does Weber E310 Genesis Natural Gas model for $ 709 CDN + Taxes sound (from Canadian Appliance).
Is there anything else that would be better value for that kind of money.
WOW, those are amazing prices. The EP320 is only $799 even with shipping that's a good price.
Is this an online store only?
Skillz14
Apr 14th, 2010, 03:29 PM
Went to HD to check out the BBQ. They don't have much selection for Natural Gas. Now, I am totally confused what to buy.
After reading many posts in this thread...I was looking forward to purchasing Broil King Natural gas for around $349 - 20%.
They didn't have any NG models available....the propane model I saw has 2 H burners and not tube burners. The propane model is listed for $299.
The Webers I saw looked good but they are much more money. The specs show they have less BTU than the Broil King or Broil Mate etc.
I don't need side burger or rotisserie. What would be the best value Weber?
How does Weber E310 Genesis Natural Gas model for $ 709 CDN + Taxes sound (from Canadian Appliance).
Is there anything else that would be better value for that kind of money.
There is actually a $299 3-burner with dual tube at Home Depot. You must be looking at the older model. I think some locations have the old model on he floor still. I picked it up a couple of days ago and I can confirm it was $299 with 3-burners and they are dual tube. Going to get the price match tomorrow!
MS MSP
Apr 14th, 2010, 04:09 PM
WOW, those are amazing prices. The EP320 is only $799 even with shipping that's a good price.
Is this an online store only?
Yeah, I just bought from them too. Their prices are awesome.
I picked up the Weber Genesis S-310 in the natural gas version for $859. I'm picking it up next week.
Their price on the S-320 is over $100 cheaper than even HD's sale price this weekend (20% off).
They have a store, I picked up some parts from them a few weeks ago for my Jenn Air stove.
cami38
Apr 14th, 2010, 05:23 PM
in case this is already posted but way far back, figured i might as well get it straight from the horses mouth.
called onward which manufactures weber etc.
they manufacture from lowest to highest quality
grillpro, sterling, broil mate, broil king, ducane, weber.
weber and ducane are generally manufactured in the u.s. depending on the grill, with some models being manufactured in china (as we know)
sterling, grillpro and broil mate are here in canada with some models being manufactured in china (as we know)
broil king is manufactured here.
they are working on getting everything manufactured in NA and hope to have it done by next year.
the signet 20 is the same as the $299 broil mate at HD.
the E-320 comes in both the genesis and spirit mode, (although their website has different links). the difference with the e to ep models are the ss grates etc. and the hooks you get for your utensils.
that being said i took my behind to rona and hd to see for myself. i was dead set on the weber ep-320 when i left rona (the e-320 at hd is just not as nice - it's the cast iron grates that i don't like. and i know i can change them, but that negates the discount), and then almost died when i went to hd. I AM IN LOVE WITH THE SUMMIT 620. yeah, it's a lot more money but it's BEAUTIFUL. now if i can only keep the visa bill from my hubby i'm good :)
the broil mate $299 and broil king signet 20's both seemed ok, but compared to the webers there WAS no comparison
desi2007 - the btu's don't matter when it comes to build quality, the webers have less btu's than the smaller broil king's etc. but they hold the heat longer and cook better.
p.s. hd is offering free assembly this weekend too
HoTnickZ
Apr 14th, 2010, 06:22 PM
what about Napolean where does it rank?
Cech
Apr 14th, 2010, 06:26 PM
in case this is already posted but way far back, figured i might as well get it straight from the horses mouth.
called onward which manufactures weber etc.
they manufacture from lowest to highest quality
grillpro, sterling, broil mate, broil king, ducane, weber.
weber and ducane are generally manufactured in the u.s. depending on the grill, with some models being manufactured in china (as we know)
sterling, grillpro and broil mate are here in canada with some models being manufactured in china (as we know)
broil king is manufactured here.
they are working on getting everything manufactured in NA and hope to have it done by next year.
the signet 20 is the same as the $299 broil mate at HD.
the E-320 comes in both the genesis and spirit mode, (although their website has different links). the difference with the e to ep models are the ss grates etc. and the hooks you get for your utensils.
that being said i took my behind to rona and hd to see for myself. i was dead set on the weber ep-320 when i left rona (the e-320 at hd is just not as nice - it's the cast iron grates that i don't like. and i know i can change them, but that negates the discount), and then almost died when i went to hd. I AM IN LOVE WITH THE SUMMIT 620. yeah, it's a lot more money but it's BEAUTIFUL. now if i can only keep the visa bill from my hubby i'm good :)
the broil mate $299 and broil king signet 20's both seemed ok, but compared to the webers there WAS no comparison
desi2007 - the btu's don't matter when it comes to build quality, the webers have less btu's than the smaller broil king's etc. but they hold the heat longer and cook better.
p.s. hd is offering free assembly this weekend too
Excellent write-up. :)
Don't forget, the EP-320 at Rona is $999 making it $280 more than the E-320. The stainless steel grates and flavorizor bars are definately wise investments which yeilds minimal maintenance, but personnally, I prefer the grilling from the heavy cast iron grates.
My ideal Weber would be a Genesis E-320 with cast iron grates and SS falvorizor bars, Weber are you listening??
Good luck with your final choice.
desi2007
Apr 14th, 2010, 07:41 PM
WOW, those are amazing prices. The EP320 is only $799 even with shipping that's a good price.
Is this an online store only?
You can purchase online if you like...they also have a store on dufferin Street north of Finch.
They have amazing prices.
What to buy....decision time :?:
dchamber
Apr 14th, 2010, 07:46 PM
I've been looking for a decent barbecue and found the Nexgrill 4 burner at Costco. It was $549 online but when I went to the store, Woodbine and Hwy 7, it was $399. I picked one up and it's great. Has a side burner, rotisserie, and searing burner. 67,000 BTU in total.
Not to rain on your parade, but I got suckered in on that bbq 2 years ago. After 6 months, screws were falling off. The searing burner stopped working after year 1, and the whole thing appears to be falling apart. I am sure this will be the last season I get out of it.
Next time I am sticking to a Weber or BK.
jbarns
Apr 14th, 2010, 08:06 PM
So this is what I am confused about - OMC (http://www.omcbbq.com/) is the "distributor/mfr" as per their site:
So what is the reality on the different lines? One person I spoke to keeps saying that although the HD Broil King lineup is built in China, it is made to Canadian standards while the Amana is a Canadian company but their products are built in China but NOT to Canadian standards.
not sure why but on the HD site for that broil mate it says Made In China.. soo.. haha
(the other one says made in canada)
Cech
Apr 14th, 2010, 08:17 PM
You can purchase online if you like...they also have a store on dufferin Street north of Finch.
They have amazing prices.
What to buy....decision time :?:
Thanks but I'm in Montreal, shipping is $113 but I would save by not paying the PST. Still the Genesis E-320 is cheaper at HD tomorrow and I went to check stock at my local store today, :razz: they have a few boxes so I'll pick up mine tomorrow and stuff it into my car. :)
bang
Apr 14th, 2010, 09:09 PM
I bought the Weber 300 from Home Depot.
Warning: The 20% off sale starts TOMORROW, not today. So don't go in there like I did with someone's van that you borrowed.
I paid full price, but they told me to come back tomorrow with my receipt and they'd credit my card.
I did some calculations, and even if you got the Weber 220 and then bought the stand, it's actually a few bucks cheaper to get the 300 because it comes with the stand.
Might as well get the bigger one :) It fits perfectly on my apartment's balcony.
xKagex
Apr 14th, 2010, 09:12 PM
what about Napolean where does it rank?
A top brand, at least equivalent to Weber, from what I've learned.
g6kalafe
Apr 14th, 2010, 09:17 PM
I hope if someone can help. I don't need a BBQ now, will the price become lower at the end of the season? I am interested in the $299 (Before discount) Boril Mate 3 burners. Thanks in advance!
Penlakes
Apr 14th, 2010, 09:33 PM
p.s. hd is offering free assembly this weekend too[/QUOTE]
Where did you hear this? I don't see it anywhere. If true this is an added bonus for sure if you don't have 3 hours to put one together.
Raddo
Apr 14th, 2010, 10:32 PM
p.s. hd is offering free assembly this weekend too
Where did you hear this? I don't see it anywhere. If true this is an added bonus for sure if you don't have 3 hours to put one together.
It is free assembly, fo sho! ;):D
Penlakes
Apr 14th, 2010, 11:26 PM
Thanks!
nounou23
Apr 15th, 2010, 06:03 AM
Went to HomeDepot in Moncton before coming to work this morning. They open a 7AM :)
No problem, got the 20%, used gift cards that I got with petro points and kijiji :)
Can't wait to get home now and assemble it.
I will also stop at Costco at noon to get the 20$ BBQ Cover. Looked at it a few weeks ago and looked good so hopefully they still have some. And also will get the Propane Gauge at costco fro 12.99 :)
Got the Broil Mate 116554 LP at 299$ for 239$ + tax.
Thanks for all of the RFD members with their comments / review on BBQ :) Helped me a lot.
Cech
Apr 15th, 2010, 06:20 AM
Went to HomeDepot in Moncton before coming to work this morning. They open a 7AM :)
No problem, got the 20%, used gift cards that I got with petro points and kijiji :)
Can't wait to get home now and assemble it.
I will also stop at Costco at noon to get the 20$ BBQ Cover. Looked at it a few weeks ago and looked good so hopefully they still have some. And also will get the Propane Gauge at costco fro 12.99 :)
Thanks for all of the RFD members with their comments / review on BBQ :) Helped me a lot.
What did you get? :)
nounou23
Apr 15th, 2010, 06:35 AM
What did you get? :)
Got the Broil Mate 116554 LP at 299$ for 239$ + tax.
potzie
Apr 15th, 2010, 07:43 AM
I just got off the phone with my local HD. I was able to get them to match the online price for the Canadian Appliance store of $909 on the Weber S320 so I am very happy but they were insistant that there was no free assembly so I had to shell out the $40 for that. I will see what I can do when I get to the store.
I am also lucky to have a coupon from them from my change of address package with Canada Post with 1 Year No Interest No Payments on my HD Card so that's nice as well. :)
barricuda
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:06 AM
...
I am also lucky to have a coupon from them from my change of address package with Canada Post with 1 Year No Interest No Payments on my HD Card so that's nice as well. :)
Thanks for reminding me about that.... I also had a 10$ off coupon from the change of address thingy, but forgot about it and bought the bbq from them on Sunday.... I'll try to use that too when I go to get 20% refund
Raddo
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:07 AM
What did you get? :)
What did you get? :)
What did you get? :)
What did you get? :)
What did you get? :)
really, 5 times!?! did you have to know in a hurry or really badly?!! :lol::razz::confused::D
turbotwo
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:11 AM
Thanks to this thread I bought a Weber Performer at HD last night, willl be going back tonight or tomorrow to get my discount!
What's the change of address coupon? I just moved and I want a coupon!
barricuda
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:16 AM
Thanks to this thread I bought a Weber Performer at HD last night, willl be going back tonight or tomorrow to get my discount!
What's the change of address coupon? I just moved and I want a coupon!
If you use Canada Post's change of address service to forward your mails to your new address, they will send u a thank you package kinda thing with an HD coupon in it... mine said $10 off $100 and no interests/payments for 1 year when you use your HD card for a purchase of $299 or more...
Although this link (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/DisplayTemplate?display=new_mover&langId=-15&storeId=10051&catalogId=10051) talks about 10% off coupon at HD, I never got any business card in my mail to request this coupon...
ahsun
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:19 AM
If you use Canada Post's change of address service to forward your mails to your new address, they will send u a thank you package kinda thing with an HD coupon in it... mine said $10 off $100 and no interests/payments for 1 year when you use your HD card for a purchase of $299 or more...
Although this link (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/DisplayTemplate?display=new_mover&langId=-15&storeId=10051&catalogId=10051) talks about 10% off coupon at HD, I never got any business card in my mail to request this coupon...
You're paying for a service to have mail redirected and they give you a coupon?! Wow, that's pretty cool. It's almost like out of guilt for charging you the $30 or so dollars. :cheesygri
swaghunter
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:21 AM
Got the Broil Mate 116554 LP at 299$ for 239$ + tax.
I figured you would go early also :)
I too went this morning to get the $299 BroilMate 116554 LP before I went to work, as the HD next to my house opens at 6am. 20% off applied plus I used $70 in GCs too :)
I was too excited to get it, and didn't want them to possibly be sold out by evening time after I finish work. I went last night and saw 4 boxes on the shelf.
I had to take it all outta the box to fit in my tiny car hahaha! Some ppl were gawkin at me in the parking lot watchin me struggle :P
Seks
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:24 AM
I don't have access to a minivan today.
If I go in into HD today to pay for a BBQ, will they hold it for me until the weekend to pick it up?
Stickee
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:27 AM
Debating between the Ducane Affinity 3100 or the Broil-Mate $279 model (both Natural Gas versions). Leaning towards the Broil-Mate as it's $120 cheaper for similar size and has more BTUs. I'm a n00b when it comes to choosing BBQs. Any feedback between these two would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks! :D
barricuda
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:30 AM
You're paying for a service to have mail redirected and they give you a coupon?! Wow, that's pretty cool. It's almost like out of guilt for charging you the $30 or so dollars. :cheesygri
lol... no I just used the service and they happened to send the coupon in the mail... Did not think I would be using at the time so forgot to use when I bought my grill last Sunday....
and its a $40 or so service so hopefully this will alleviate some of that cost :cheesygri
whampoa
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:31 AM
I don't have access to a minivan today.
If I go in into HD today to pay for a BBQ, will they hold it for me until the weekend to pick it up?
Nope, once you pay for it, it's your wanted or not.
You better off renting a van for $20 from HD for 90 minutes.
P.S. There's no hold or storage, at any big box store, once you pay for a purchase. You better keep an eye on it or other will just cart away.
nufan
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:31 AM
how big is the broil mate 3 burner? Wondering if it will fit in my honda civic with the seats folded down. Failing that, hoping I can go buy it and have them hold it till this evening when I have access to a truck.
Also, where's this free assembly? Is it advertised only in store?
swaghunter
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:40 AM
the signet 20 is the same as the $299 broil mate at HD.
I love me some good ol' piece of mind :cheesygri
nounou23
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:41 AM
how big is the broil mate 3 burner? Wondering if it will fit in my honda civic with the seats folded down. Failing that, hoping I can go buy it and have them hold it till this evening when I have access to a truck.
Also, where's this free assembly? Is it advertised only in store?
I have a Jeep patriot and had to fold down the seats. It's pretty big box. You might have to take it out of the box :)
nounou23
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:42 AM
I figured you would go early also :)
I too went this morning to get the $299 BroilMate 116554 LP before I went to work, as the HD next to my house opens at 6am. 20% off applied plus I used $70 in GCs too :)
I was too excited to get it, and didn't want them to possibly be sold out by evening time after I finish work. I went last night and saw 4 boxes on the shelf.
I had to take it all outta the box to fit in my tiny car hahaha! Some ppl were gawkin at me in the parking lot watchin me struggle :P
I wanted to go around 11AM. but I remembered that they opened early so I went before going to work. There was no one there so it went very fast to pickup and pay for it.
nounou23
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:43 AM
I don't have access to a minivan today.
If I go in into HD today to pay for a BBQ, will they hold it for me until the weekend to pick it up?
I asked that same question because I wasn't sure if I would be down with our jeep or car. They told me I could pay for it and pick it up whenever I wanted. But ended up taking the Jeep today and pickup the BBQ this morning :)
swaghunter
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:43 AM
how big is the broil mate 3 burner? Wondering if it will fit in my honda civic with the seats folded down. Failing that, hoping I can go buy it and have them hold it till this evening when I have access to a truck.
Also, where's this free assembly? Is it advertised only in store?
my "tiny car" is a honda civic (4 door 2005 model) as well. In the box, the bbq just didn't fit trying to squeeze it in the back seat (not through the trunk with seats down or anything, but through the side doors....the trunk is too shallow anyways). I think it would possibly fit inside the car's backseat, but it definitely won't get through the door.
I guess if I had maybe 30 more minutes to spare and an extra person to help I might've figured it out, but I just took it all outta the box and put it in my car that way instead
htoddrmt
Apr 15th, 2010, 08:49 AM
I have read all of these posts and I am very confused...I am looking for a bbq that is decent, not a weber or a super large one. I do not need a side burner or it to be portable. I saw the 299$ Broilmate (king) from Home depot. Would this be the best one for me? If so is the best price I will be able to find in Ottawa....or should I cont to look.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions and help...hard to do the research with two small kids all over me when I am on the computer :)
bubbabyte
Apr 15th, 2010, 09:15 AM
can someone explain what's so great about the Broil Mate Model: 116554.
I'm looking for a BBQ and people keep mentioning it as a good one to buy, but then i see BBQ's for $199 that look nicer and have more BTU, so i'm confused as to what makes this so great.
prod
Apr 15th, 2010, 09:30 AM
Just picked up the broilmate 116554 for $239, $270 after all taxes. Its fuming off right now, mmmmm.. burgers for breakfast.
They had at least 10 of them assembled ready to go, along with quite a few of the other models.
I chose this one because I dont need a side burner or rotisserie, but I wanted 3 burners as I often cook different things at once. Reputable company, quality materials, so it should last a long time.
The $199 broil mate is not bad, but has a dual H burner which doesnt last as long, so for $40 more right now, the 116554 is definitely the way to go for a basic BBQ.
Raddo
Apr 15th, 2010, 09:34 AM
how big is the broil mate 3 burner? Wondering if it will fit in my honda civic with the seats folded down. Failing that, hoping I can go buy it and have them hold it till this evening when I have access to a truck.
Also, where's this free assembly? Is it advertised only in store?
yes and no. it`s not actually advertised in store or on flyer but is it definately free assembly for the sale. when you buy your bbq, just ask them for an assembled one. they already have a ton of preassemble bbqs ready to go. that`s it! :D
potzie
Apr 15th, 2010, 09:38 AM
Nope, once you pay for it, it's your wanted or not.
You better off renting a van for $20 from HD for 90 minutes.
P.S. There's no hold or storage, at any big box store, once you pay for a purchase. You better keep an eye on it or other will just cart away.
Wrong, HD always has items on the floor with the Purple Sold Stickers on them. I called this morning and bought mine over the phone and told them I will be in this weekend to pick it up. If you go to the store there will be one on the floor with a Purple Sticker with my name on it right now.
Seks
Apr 15th, 2010, 09:45 AM
Nope, once you pay for it, it's your wanted or not.
You better off renting a van for $20 from HD for 90 minutes.
P.S. There's no hold or storage, at any big box store, once you pay for a purchase. You better keep an eye on it or other will just cart away.
Just came back from HD. Picked up the 116554 broilmate. I had access to a minivan...just had to pick it up from someone's workplace.
2 brand new in the box left, one has a name of it and says "to be assembled", the other one has not been claimed. This was at Edmonton Skyview as of 8:20 AM MST.
Eldorado
Apr 15th, 2010, 09:56 AM
I don't have access to a minivan today.
If I go in into HD today to pay for a BBQ, will they hold it for me until the weekend to pick it up?
I did that with a patio set last year and they sold it on me!
But a nice little chat with the manager got me $100 off another set of my choice
Don't believe the little sold stickers, anyone can come by and rip them off.. even employees will do it just to make a sale - sell the same item twice! Yes this does happen
potzie
Apr 15th, 2010, 10:17 AM
Has anyone tried going to Rona and having them match the 20% off in general? Any luck?
yoshi838
Apr 15th, 2010, 10:21 AM
Just bought a Broil King Signet 20 @ TA Appliances for $420 + tax. This is the NG version... Oh free delivery too. Any comments?
khriz
Apr 15th, 2010, 10:27 AM
Hey Everyone
This Easter I bought the Broil King Signet 20 when it had the 50 dollars off, plus just Easter they had an additional 10 percent off, so it total i got the bbq which is regular $400 + tax for $354 taxes included. So i was wondering if the $299 broil mate is exactly the same as the signet 20 in all aspects which would be a much better deal with the additional 20 percent off or should i be ok with the deal i got from Rona. Plus anyone know what the return is like on an unused bbq to Rona is like. Just picked it up yesturday as they were out of stock and I hate to wait to get it.
On a site note also, the grids that came with my bbq look like the heavy duty cast iron grids instead of the porcelain covered cast iron grids as advertised. Would this be a bad thing or a good thing, i could possibly post a picture if need be.
Thanks for any help at all
yoshi838
Apr 15th, 2010, 10:30 AM
Hey Everyone
This Easter I bought the Broil King Signet 20 when it had the 50 dollars off, plus just Easter they had an additional 10 percent off, so it total i got the bbq which is regular $400 + tax for $354 taxes included. So i was wondering if the $299 broil mate is exactly the same as the signet 20 in all aspects which would be a much better deal with the additional 20 percent off or should i be ok with the deal i got from Rona. Plus anyone know what the return is like on an unused bbq to Rona is like. Just picked it up yesturday as they were out of stock and I hate to wait to get it.
On a site note also, the grids that came with my bbq look like the heavy duty cast iron grids instead of the porcelain covered cast iron grids as advertised. Would this be a bad thing or a good thing, i could possibly post a picture if need be.
Thanks for any help at all
Did you get the natural gas or propane version? Also which store did you buy it from?
VANTIS
Apr 15th, 2010, 10:30 AM
Any comments?
should have bought a weber:lol:
an2one
Apr 15th, 2010, 10:51 AM
Just came back from HD and all I saw coming out of the doors were BBQs :)
I pulled the trigger and bought the Weber S-320. Let the bbq season begin!
cutesnoopydoll
Apr 15th, 2010, 10:52 AM
Just came back from HD and all I saw coming out of the doors were BBQs :)
I pulled the trigger and bought the Weber S-320. Let the bbq season begin!
how much did you buy it for?
Seks
Apr 15th, 2010, 10:56 AM
Just came back from HD. Picked up the 116554 broilmate. I had access to a minivan...just had to pick it up from someone's workplace.
2 brand new in the box left, one has a name of it and says "to be assembled", the other one has not been claimed. This was at Edmonton Skyview as of 8:20 AM MST.
BTW, looking for a durable BBQ cover. Where should I go? Does Costco sell them? And also BBQ utensils set too.
khriz
Apr 15th, 2010, 10:57 AM
Did you get the natural gas or propane version? Also which store did you buy it from?
it was the propane version
wazabi
Apr 15th, 2010, 10:58 AM
How big is the broilmate box ?
Can it fit into a civic or have to take the box apart ?
nufan
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:00 AM
How big is the broilmate box ?
Can it fit into a civic or have to take the box apart ?
already been covered
I went and paid for my broil mate, going to go back after work with a truck to save trying to stuff it into my Civic.
Now need to find a good priced cover and brush :) Thanks!
Eldorado
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:04 AM
Just bought a Broil King Signet 20 @ TA Appliances for $420 + tax. This is the NG version... Oh free delivery too. Any comments?
Did you happen to see a price on the Signet 90?
Getting tired of waiting for mine from HH.. 2 weeks and counting..
nounou23
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:05 AM
BTW, looking for a durable BBQ cover. Where should I go? Does Costco sell them? And also BBQ utensils set too.
Just bought a 20$ heavy Duty cover @ Costco.
I think it's a Grill Mate (It's in my car I can check later) and seem pretty well made.
Cech
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:07 AM
:razz:
Hey Everyone
This Easter I bought the Broil King Signet 20 when it had the 50 dollars off, plus just Easter they had an additional 10 percent off, so it total i got the bbq which is regular $400 + tax for $354 taxes included. So i was wondering if the $299 broil mate is exactly the same as the signet 20 in all aspects which would be a much better deal with the additional 20 percent off or should i be ok with the deal i got from Rona. Plus anyone know what the return is like on an unused bbq to Rona is like. Just picked it up yesturday as they were out of stock and I hate to wait to get it.
On a site note also, the grids that came with my bbq look like the heavy duty cast iron grids instead of the porcelain covered cast iron grids as advertised. Would this be a bad thing or a good thing, i could possibly post a picture if need be.
Thanks for any help at all
Heavy cast iron grates all the way!!!
The porcelain ones are cheaper and lighter but they will not rust as long as you don't chip them. The heavy cast iron grates are excellent for searing as long as they are well seasoned (oiled).
That is one of the main differences between the Signet 20 and the Broilmate, the 20 comes with the heavy grates where as the Broilmate comes with the porcelin cast iron.
Oh and BTW, keep the Signet 20 :razz:
nounou23
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:09 AM
What's the best thing recommended to clean porcelain coated cast iron grills? Will a metal brush damage it?
Cech
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:23 AM
What's the best thing recommended to clean porcelain coated cast iron grills? Will a metal brush damage it?
Brass bristle brush only and washing as long as it's not chipped.
cutesnoopydoll
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:24 AM
What's the best thing recommended to clean porcelain coated cast iron grills? Will a metal brush damage it?
I want to ask too...usually I let it cool and bring them inside and wash it using dish liquid detergent.
an2one
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:27 AM
how much did you buy it for?
Weber S-320 = $960 + tax ($1084 total)
potzie
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:31 AM
Weber S-320 = $960 + tax ($1084 total)
Did you take in the listing from www.canadianappliance.com and get a price match? They matched it for me I got the NG for $909 + tax but no free assembly.
MXMike
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:33 AM
What's the best thing recommended to clean porcelain coated cast iron grills? Will a metal brush damage it?
Brass bristle brush only and washing as long as it's not chipped.
How about a GrillStone (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/2/BBQsAccessories/BBQBrushesCleaners/PRDOVR~0851308P/GrillStone%252BGrill%252BCleaning%252BStarter%252B Kit.jsp?locale=en)? I've heard they are effective and gentler than a metal brush. Anyone have experience using these on a porcelain coated cast iron grill?
nounou23
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:35 AM
Found this
http://www.smoker-cooking.com/porcelain-cooking-grates.html
Good info :)
isitin
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:40 AM
I've been looking for a decent barbecue and found the Nexgrill 4 burner at Costco. It was $549 online but when I went to the store, Woodbine and Hwy 7, it was $399. I picked one up and it's great. Has a side burner, rotisserie, and searing burner. 67,000 BTU in total.
http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10334201&search=191178&topnav=&Mo=0&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-CA&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&N=0&whse=BCCA&Dx=mode%20matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ne=4000000&D=191178&Ntt=191178&No=0&Nty=1&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial
Did you read the review on this grill online. Not very good. Also this is a horrible Chinese grill that you will have a hard time getting replacement parts for.
fugazi11
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:49 AM
By chance is anybody seeing the natural gas broilmate or any other quality natural gas bbq's in this price range? Seems like HD has a lot more propane options.
chandans
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:51 AM
i bought the signet 90 at the HH sale last week for 549 (actually bought the 600 NG version), which was $100 cheaper than other places. But deilvery will be ~ 3 weeks.
So now im wondering if i should head over to HD and try to find somethign comparable, even a bit cheaper if possible. What you guys think? Should i stick with the signet? or give HD a shot? :confused:
prod
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:55 AM
Just bought a 20$ heavy Duty cover @ Costco.
I think it's a Grill Mate (It's in my car I can check later) and seem pretty well made.
I just came back from costco. The 19.99 one is the only one I saw there, but I didnt get it. The size was too wide and not tall enough for the broil-mate 116554 I just bought, its for 38" wide oven 70" wide shelves and 42" height. And it is fairly thin unlined polyester. Im just gonna use a cheapo tarp from CT until I find a better one.
My new BBQ has 29" wide oven and 58" wide shelves, 49" high. I would also rather have the flocked lining.
isitin
Apr 15th, 2010, 11:59 AM
in case this is already posted but way far back, figured i might as well get it straight from the horses mouth.
called onward which manufactures weber etc.
they manufacture from lowest to highest quality
grillpro, sterling, broil mate, broil king, ducane, weber.
weber and ducane are generally manufactured in the u.s. depending on the grill, with some models being manufactured in china (as we know)
sterling, grillpro and broil mate are here in canada with some models being manufactured in china (as we know)
broil king is manufactured here.
they are working on getting everything manufactured in NA and hope to have it done by next year.
the signet 20 is the same as the $299 broil mate at HD.
the E-320 comes in both the genesis and spirit mode, (although their website has different links). the difference with the e to ep models are the ss grates etc. and the hooks you get for your utensils.
that being said i took my behind to rona and hd to see for myself. i was dead set on the weber ep-320 when i left rona (the e-320 at hd is just not as nice - it's the cast iron grates that i don't like. and i know i can change them, but that negates the discount), and then almost died when i went to hd. I AM IN LOVE WITH THE SUMMIT 620. yeah, it's a lot more money but it's BEAUTIFUL. now if i can only keep the visa bill from my hubby i'm good :)
the broil mate $299 and broil king signet 20's both seemed ok, but compared to the webers there WAS no comparison
desi2007 - the btu's don't matter when it comes to build quality, the webers have less btu's than the smaller broil king's etc. but they hold the heat longer and cook better.
p.s. hd is offering free assembly this weekend too
Sorry to bust your bubble, but you are wrong on a bunch of items here. Ducane bbqs are Made in China, all Weber Spirits are Made in China. All Grill Pro bbqs are Made in China. All stainless steel Lid Broil Mates sold at Home Depot are Made in China. Weber Summits & the Genesis line is Made in USA. Broil King's are Made in Canada & the USA.
htoddrmt
Apr 15th, 2010, 12:08 PM
can someone explain what's so great about the Broil Mate Model: 116554.
I'm looking for a BBQ and people keep mentioning it as a good one to buy, but then i see BBQ's for $199 that look nicer and have more BTU, so i'm confused as to what makes this so great.
I also would like to know....
Anyone????
opilion
Apr 15th, 2010, 12:08 PM
Sorry to bust your bubble, but you are wrong on a bunch of items here. Ducane bbqs are Made in China, all Weber Spirits are Made in China. All Grill Pro bbqs are Made in China. All stainless steel Lid Broil Mates sold at Home Depot are Made in China. Weber Summits & the Genesis line is Made in USA. Broil King's are Made in Canada & the USA.
Sorry to bust your bubble, but the Broil Mate 116554 are labelled 'Made in Canada'.
Stickee
Apr 15th, 2010, 12:12 PM
Broil Mate 3-burner NG version is nowhere to be seen in west GTA. They did have plenty of the propane ones at the Winston Churchill / Dundas HD.
shoppingkart
Apr 15th, 2010, 12:12 PM
i bought the signet 90 at the HH sale last week for 549 (actually bought the 600 NG version), which was $100 cheaper than other places. But deilvery will be ~ 3 weeks.
So now im wondering if i should head over to HD and try to find somethign comparable, even a bit cheaper if possible. What you guys think? Should i stick with the signet? or give HD a shot? :confused:
HD only sells a few NG BBQ’s. Signet 90 is a very nice BBQ for a fair price. I would keep it unless you want something basic. ;)
Stickee
Apr 15th, 2010, 12:13 PM
By chance is anybody seeing the natural gas broilmate or any other quality natural gas bbq's in this price range? Seems like HD has a lot more propane options.
Didn't see this post. See post above. Couldn't find the Broil Mate Natural Gas anywhere, had guy check the inventory at other stores too, and no dice.
shoppingkart
Apr 15th, 2010, 12:16 PM
Sorry to bust your bubble, but the Broil Mate 116554 are labelled 'Made in Canada'.
Yes, that BM with the cast aluminium lid is Canadian made, only the ones with full SS lid coming from China.
Cech
Apr 15th, 2010, 12:16 PM
Sorry to bust your bubble, but the Broil Mate 116554 are labelled 'Made in Canada'.
He did say "All stainless steel Lid Broil Mates sold at Home Depot are Made in China"
The black tops (even with SS inserts) BroilMates/Sterlings are all made in Canada.
MXMike
Apr 15th, 2010, 12:17 PM
Sorry to bust your bubble, but the Broil Mate 116554 are labelled 'Made in Canada'.
Yes it is made in Canada, but the 116554 does not have a stainless steel lid (just a SS piece over the top of the lid). Opilion said "All stainless steel Lid Broil Mates sold at Home Depot are Made in China". There seems to be a lot of confusion about this in this thread. (I just picked up the 116554 at the Greenfield Park location. They had 4 more in boxes and 2 pre-assembled as of 3pm).
Non-SS Lid = Made in Canada
http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/15200.116554_3.jpg
SS Lid = Made in China.
http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/15200.735269_3.jpg
chandans
Apr 15th, 2010, 12:17 PM
HD only sells a few NG BBQ’s. Signet 90 is a very nice BBQ for a fair price. I would keep it unless you want something basic. ;)
yeaaa...i know its really nice which is why im on the fence about it! i think i might go to check it out, but i wouldnt even know what to settle for. :(
nounou23
Apr 15th, 2010, 12:19 PM
I was interested in the Signet 90 for a while and I may have found a way to get it at a good price if anyone is interested.
Kent here in NB are selling it for 599$. I was told by a sales rep that if you find a lower price they will match the price + 10% off (I asked him twice if it was 10% off the difference and he told me it was 10% off the price)
So by doing a PM with Home Hardware at 549$ it would drop to around 500$ + tax.
Also if you take the Kent Card you get a scratch and save for 5% to 20% off your purchase. so you get at least an extra 25$ off your BBQ.
Just a FYI.
KingCreole
Apr 15th, 2010, 12:21 PM
I also would like to know....
Anyone????
Basically, don't go by BTU's when you buy. They can really fudge that number....IE, is it average BTU? Is it max BTU when the stars are aligned right? Get the idea :) ?
Go for quality brands and you can't go wrong (Weber, Broil King, etc). I'm sure they've been discussed to death here.
Personally, I forgo the BTU's altogether! :D
http://www.homedepot.com/Outdoors-Grills-Accessories-Grills-Grills-Charcoal/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xr5Zarnb/R-100064171/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
isitin
Apr 15th, 2010, 12:27 PM
Sorry to bust your bubble, but the Broil Mate 116554 are labelled 'Made in Canada'.
Sorry to bust your bubble but my post said the Broil Mates with the stainless steel lids. These are the cast aluminum lids with the stainless steel escutcheons. Made in Canada.
shoppingkart
Apr 15th, 2010, 12:31 PM
yeaaa...i know its really nice which is why im on the fence about it! i think i might go to check it out, but i wouldnt even know what to settle for. :(
You are buying a BBQ for at least ten years, (not the Chinese made :eek:) so is it really worth to save $100-120 ($10/year)and not liking or enjoying that BBQ?
wazabi
Apr 15th, 2010, 12:42 PM
So What's left for the Natural gas at HD if the Broil Mate nat gas is not avail ?
what's the next best price on one ?
Ducane Affinity 3100 for 399 ?
it has nowhere the same BTU as the Broil Mate though
I wonder if Rona will step up with 20% off ...