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Sazafraz
Apr 11th, 2009, 05:47 PM
I am really excited for this one because it seems they took a step away from trying to add as much software as possible to improving its performance. For those who have tried it, is it significantly faster than 8.10? Also, they have officially declared ext4 as stable, how much better is it than ext3 and are there any big problems with it?

Can't wait!!

JAC
Apr 11th, 2009, 05:51 PM
More importantly, can the damned thing boot to a single SATA drive system.

mr_raider
Apr 12th, 2009, 04:12 PM
More importantly, can the damned thing boot to a single SATA drive system.

What's this now?

gordholio
Apr 12th, 2009, 07:33 PM
More importantly, can the damned thing boot to a single SATA drive system.

Yes, of course it can. I have Ubuntu 9.04 beta and it works great!
Not using Windows at all except within VirtualBox in Ubuntu.

Ubuntu 9.04 final is coming out on April 23 for folks who want to give it a try by running it off a Live CD.
Pretty amazing what you get for free.

RCGA
Apr 12th, 2009, 08:05 PM
Yes, of course it can. I have Ubuntu 9.04 beta and it works great!
Not using Windows at all except within VirtualBox in Ubuntu.

Ubuntu 9.04 final is coming out on April 23 for folks who want to give it a try by running it off a Live CD.
Pretty amazing what you get for free.

I've used the LiveCD, and for someone just using email and word, it's amazing

Now, trying to install the thing is another matter. I'm not computer illiterate by any means, but trying to install 8.10 messed up my computer so bad I had to reformat it.

jz1n
Apr 12th, 2009, 08:16 PM
i nub :0)

Mistro
Apr 12th, 2009, 08:25 PM
I believe its ext3 by default. Not Fat32. Fat 32 prevents files > 4gb.

You will have to repartition to install it anyways. Virtual machines or live CDs/Perisistant live usb's are usually the best bet if you wish to experiement or use it as a temporary system.

Sazafraz
Apr 13th, 2009, 12:07 AM
I've used the LiveCD, and for someone just using email and word, it's amazing

Now, trying to install the thing is another matter. I'm not computer illiterate by any means, but trying to install 8.10 messed up my computer so bad I had to reformat it.

Haha yeah, I know what you mean. Partitioning was so frustrating when I first started cause I always gotten these random errors while trying to partition but once you practice more on your friends computers you get the hang of it:lol:.

RCGA
Apr 13th, 2009, 08:53 AM
Haha yeah, I know what you mean. Partitioning was so frustrating when I first started cause I always gotten these random errors while trying to partition but once you practice more on your friends computers you get the hang of it:lol:.

I could partition the drive fine (with another program), but could never get ubuntu to install on it, it always gave me an error.

If they want people to switch or give it a try, they're going to have to make the installation process seamless first and foremost.

Hugh
Apr 13th, 2009, 01:05 PM
I could partition the drive fine (with another program), but could never get ubuntu to install on it, it always gave me an error.

If they want people to switch or give it a try, they're going to have to make the installation process seamless first and foremost.

Ubuntu installs about as easily as I could imagine.

My guess is that partitioning is mysteriously arcane to most folks. That is a real barrier that I don't know how to surmount.

I have to admit that when I install Ubuntu, I take charge of partitioning (manual, not automatic) so I may not see what you see.

I don't know the exact rules, but when I resize a Vista partition, I've had Vista throw a snit. In ways that XP never did. I have a suspicion that Microsoft wants to make it hard. I think what worked for me was to resize, then boot into Vista (before installing Linux) and ask it to check the disk. Then all was well.

Anyway, you said that your problem was installation, not partitioning. I've rarely had problems with installation, and I've done quite a few on diverse machines. The Ubuntu community is generally very helpful -- have you asked for any help? What was the error message that you got?

JAC
Apr 13th, 2009, 09:03 PM
What's this now?

Last few versions haven't worked for me after I upgraded my IDE drive to a SATA drive.

someguy91
Apr 13th, 2009, 11:36 PM
I could partition the drive fine (with another program), but could never get ubuntu to install on it, it always gave me an error.

If they want people to switch or give it a try, they're going to have to make the installation process seamless first and foremost.

Heh... common misconception. The reason that windows installs easily on everything is that hardware manufacturers test their hardware with windows. Linux, on the other hand, is generally ignored. However, linux actually supports WAY more devices on a default install than does windows.

Anyway.... "update-manager -d" that's how you get Jaunty. I'm running it right now and it's fantastic. I would get it before the official release date anyway, because the servers are going to be swamped. On release date, it might be a couple megabyte download to update to the final release.

Seiphas
Apr 14th, 2009, 12:11 AM
I have a production server running in my basement, running 8.10. Let's test out 9.04 right now, shall we?

gordholio
Apr 14th, 2009, 08:21 AM
I have a production server running in my basement, running 8.10. Let's test out 9.04 right now, shall we?

I don''t know what a production server is, but if it's anything really important, I would suggest to wait for the final version of 9.04 on April 23.
I am using the 9.04 beta and it's been fine so far, but I wouldn't trust a beta if you have vital information. :)

Gutty96
Apr 14th, 2009, 09:19 AM
I have 8.10 on one drive, and 9.04 beta on the other. So far, I am very pleased with 9.04, and can't wait for the final.

The first days with 8.10 were very frustrating, getting Java, and Flash working in 64bit. A quick install with Synaptic in 9.04 and done. Flash and Java fully functional.

DJ Dennis
Apr 14th, 2009, 10:08 AM
ext4 is faster than ext3. There's a risk of data loss in ext4 when your system crashes after saving, but it should be fixed when 9.04 is released.

mr_raider
Apr 14th, 2009, 07:50 PM
Last few versions haven't worked for me after I upgraded my IDE drive to a SATA drive.

That's odd. Ubuntu has worked on my AMD 770 board with IDE, SATA and AHCI mode, which is more than I can say for WIn XP.

lifeflayer
Apr 14th, 2009, 08:59 PM
I have 8.10 on one drive, and 9.04 beta on the other. So far, I am very pleased with 9.04, and can't wait for the final.

The first days with 8.10 were very frustrating, getting Java, and Flash working in 64bit. A quick install with Synaptic in 9.04 and done. Flash and Java fully functional.

Looking forward to that. 64bit was a pain in the butt with Flash.

Sazafraz
Apr 14th, 2009, 09:03 PM
Looking forward to that. 64bit was a pain in the butt with Flash.

It sucks for 32 bit as well. Seriously, more people need to actively support and develop Gnash so we don't have to deal with bullcrap Adobe and their lack of a stable flash player.

tmpz
Apr 14th, 2009, 09:36 PM
I can't wait :cheesygri

jz1n
Apr 17th, 2009, 12:00 AM
I can't wait :cheesygri

The wait is over! Pre-order your copy of 9.04 right now!
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=727399

Go go go!

bokep
Apr 23rd, 2009, 08:42 AM
Out today

ma678
Apr 23rd, 2009, 11:58 AM
Does it support sound card and wireless better than previous one?

bokep
Apr 23rd, 2009, 12:42 PM
Does it support sound card and wireless better than previous one?

I'm going to install it on my laptop after I get home. I'll let you know.

I couldn't get my wireless card working on Hardy Heron.

MarkIII
Apr 23rd, 2009, 12:43 PM
Yay! Going to install that on a 8GB SDHC CF card for my file server that has been running Ubuntu 6.1 ? for two years w/o a single reboot or crash. Going to format my RAID array with EXT4 with aggregated gigabit connection to see it smoking! Take that WINDOWS PIG HOME SERVER!!!!

Nexxion
Apr 23rd, 2009, 12:54 PM
I struggle to get pumped up for release day.

When the LTS version comes out with all the bug fixes that's something to get pumped up about... or when Ultimate Ubuntu releases their remix... failing that, Debian's new release day.

Sazafraz
Apr 23rd, 2009, 10:04 PM
I haven't tried it out yet, I wanted to request a CD but the server is offline and I don't think I have a blank cd-r right now :(. For those who installed it, how is it?

Gutty96
Apr 24th, 2009, 10:15 AM
It is awesome! Best initial install I have ever had. Much better 64bit support then 8.10 out of the box, and much better look, feel and stability to KDE4, now that it has had time to develop.

I have 9.04 on one drive, getting all my backed up stuff from the other drive running 8.10 now. Once I am done getting 9.04 up and running with all my backed up stuff installed, I will try the update to 9.04 feature my 8.10 system keeps asking me for, as see how it goes. Just for kicks though, as I always prefer to do a clean install.

Hugh
Apr 24th, 2009, 10:34 AM
It is awesome! Best initial install I have ever had. Much better 64bit support then 8.10 out of the box, and much better look, feel and stability to KDE4, now that it has had time to develop.

I have 9.04 on one drive, getting all my backed up stuff from the other drive running 8.10 now. Once I am done getting 9.04 up and running with all my backed up stuff installed, I will try the update to 9.04 feature my 8.10 system keeps asking me for, as see how it goes. Just for kicks though, as I always prefer to do a clean install.

Lots of folks find updates work for release changes. I don't trust them, but that could be superstition.

I always do a clean install but I carry over /home. I put /home on a separate partition so that it can be shared by multiple installations. The rest of the system fits in 5G or 10G, and that is cheap these days. So I reserve a couple of partitions so that I can have two installations and I ping pong between them as I install new releases. I can then boot either the old or new release by choosing which / partition to boot.

Sharing /home is only slightly tricky. One problem is that when you create a new account, the GUI tools would prefer to create a new home directory. A related problem is that you might want different dot (config) files in a directory, depending on the release. I find that hasn't actually mattered.

I don't share /home between Fedora and Ubuntu because I don't know if the config files or selinux labelling are compatible.

M-e-X-x
Apr 24th, 2009, 01:44 PM
Last few versions haven't worked for me after I upgraded my IDE drive to a SATA drive.

try alternative install CD?

on another note, any have instructions to install netbook remix? trying to run it in a VM enviroment, but it won't boot... do i have to install 9.04 first, then run netbook remix install?