View Full Version : Run a NG Line Underground for Barbecue
HardHatMack
Apr 27th, 2009, 12:11 PM
Hi all,
Does anyone know where I can find information on how to properly set up an underground gas line? Would I need a contractor to do this or do I just need to make sure I meet the building code?
Thanks,
HHM
rc51
Apr 27th, 2009, 12:19 PM
Hi all,
We recently had a NG quick connect kit installed on the side of the house by our patio. Our patio is covered with a canopy and the best spot for the barbecue is an uncovered area on the other side of the patio, opposite the wall where the quick connect is installed.
I would like to run a line underground along the edge of the patio to where the barbecue will sit. I know you can buy longer hoses with the quick connections on both ends, but I don't think these are meant to be placed underground. Does anyone know where I can find information on how to properly set this up? Would I need a contractor to do this or do I just need to make sure I meet the building code?
Thanks,
HHM
We had this done last year for our outdoor kitchen. You will have to get a qualified gas fitter to trench it and run the line. Probably will need to pull a permit and then the city comes to inspect it once the tie-in to the main supply is finished.
We're in Calgary, your city laws/rules might be different but I'm suspecting the same principles apply.
Come to think of it, you may not be able to use a quick connect for a line running underground, it may have to be a permanent connection...but don't quote me. Check with a gas guy.
mcplar
Apr 27th, 2009, 12:19 PM
you definity need a licensed gas fitter if your running things underground.
mag
Apr 27th, 2009, 07:46 PM
You can't go underground with hose, and I believe the longest rated hose you can get is 10'. It must be K grade copper coated or plastic. There has to be a shut off just prior to going underground. To code the line must be 15" below grade. The underground line would be best in one piece. I believe some compression fittings are approved but they must be certified.
mcplar
Apr 28th, 2009, 10:58 AM
YES... this should only be done by a licensed fitter. Stop posting questions on here, and start looking in the yellow pages ;)
If you attempt this and screw up = no insurance coverage for yourself or possible damage to neighbours houses. And I would say (IMO) that the pipe would have to be more than just 'copper tube'. It needs to be steel and also needs a 'tracing' wire. New gas runs should also be pressure tested with AIR or NITROGEN prior to turning the valve on to ensure there are no leaks!
Get a gas fitter FULL STOP.
dandiggler
Apr 28th, 2009, 12:39 PM
Steel with a tracing wire?? dosent make sense....
The line with be 0.5" PE (plastic) with a tracer.
Have a professional install it.
mcplar
Apr 28th, 2009, 12:59 PM
Steel with a tracing wire?? dosent make sense....
The line with be 0.5" PE (plastic) with a tracer.
Have a professional install it.
plastic as long as the line doesn't go under the deck (structure), from what I can tell.
and yes.. a tracer shouldn't be required for steel pipe ... DOH
ixhuntaxi
Apr 28th, 2009, 01:52 PM
Pending on the size of the gas main and pressure will determine you size of service. For most improved area's pressure will be intermediate with a 0.5pe riser and pe (plastic service). The service can also be lp (low pressure) and have a larger service (1"-11/4")
As mentioned above you will need a licensed fitter to do the work. Your BBQ line should also be above ground as the fittings will corrode. If you have any questions pm me.
antman59
Apr 28th, 2009, 03:58 PM
Was quoted around $10 a foot for underground gas cable.