Rogers discovers way to go over cable download caps in minutes! 50mbps service coming

[HowEver]

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/July2009/09/c4972.html


Rogers Continues to Deliver the Fastest Internet. Period.(1)


Satisfy your need for speed with the most powerful home networking
solution

TORONTO, July 9 /CNW/ - Rogers Cable Communications Inc. today announced
the launch of the fastest wireless home networking device, the N gateway.
Rogers is the first cable Internet Provider in North America to offer its
customers a DOCSIS 3.0 N gateway wireless home networking that has been
specifically designed for optimal usage on its high-speed network.
This enhanced gateway combines the modem and wireless router into one
device, minimizing the clutter and making it easier for customers to manage
their wireless home network. With the N gateway consumers are able to extend
their wireless connection further, and will have less signal quality issues.
"Innovation is the driving force behind everything we do at Rogers," said
Chris Draper, Vice President of Product Management, Rogers Cable. "We
continuously invest in our network to deliver superior products and services
that deliver a consistently better online experience for our customers.
Through the enhanced capabilities of our DOCSIS 3.0 network, combined with
wireless N technology, we are delivering the most powerful gateway available
to our customers."
The innovation doesn't end there though. Rogers customers will not only
realize the benefits the fastest wireless home networking device brings, but
in mid August they will also be able to access the fastest Internet speed
available in the market with the launch of a 50Mbps service. Rogers Hi-Speed
Internet's fastest level of service will initially be available in the Greater
Toronto Area and will be rolled out further in the coming months.
To celebrate the launch of both the fastest Internet and fastest home
networking device, Rogers will be giving away 50 N gateway devices (valued at
$199.95 each) to eligible customers who sign up for the 50 Mbps service. The
"First 50 to get 50" will be randomly selected among those customers who enter
to win at www.rogers.com/first50.

[Silver Bullet]

Fine print at the bottom of the page ..

"Ultimate Service price is $149.99 per month"

I don't really care how fast it is $149.99 is a little much for internet.

[terrybear]

Fine print at the bottom of the page ..

"Ultimate Service price is $149.99 per month"

I don't really care how fast it is $149.99 is a little much for internet.

AND watch it have like a 100-150 gig cap *LMAOL* :lol::lol::lol::cheesygri

[tomtomtom]

Imagine driving a brand new Ferrari on DVP.

F*** Robbers.

[Oversized Rooster]

LOL great Rogers will offer service that has been available in Eastern Europe for the past 5 years for the equivalent of $13 Canadian monthly (no cap by the way).

What a bunch of morons, seriously. And we call this a "G8" country, right? :lol:

[willy]

The customers can hit the bandwidth cap 5 times earlier .. Great :evil:

[terrybear]

maybe this is rogers positioning to put something in play when the whole internet rate & ect crap is settled & they put a cap on things on dsl connections .....

this MIGHT be worth it if its non capped & had like a 1 tb cap

[torseller07]

So.. is this a step forward or backward?

Looks to me customers are going to pay more to hit the cap faster...

[attonbitusira]

It's a step forward.

When Fiber was first available in the states the prices were astronomical as well. Verizon currently offers 25/15 for $120/month or so. You get a bunch of free goodies though.

With 50mbps available, the competitors will have to up their game. This is a good thing!

[mulambo187]

quick math, they want 150 plus tax so 170 a month.... you get a 50 meg line with traffic shaping and likely a 60GB cap:razz:.

teksavvy around $45/month taxes in for a dryloop dsl line with 200 GB you looking at 3, you get around 15meg down and 2.4 up.... and i presume 600GB worth of traffic to go with it.

somthing like that.... good luck to anyone trying to max out these juicy pipes...

[Star*]

quick math, they want 150 plus tax so 170 a month.... you get a 50 meg line with traffic shaping and likely a 60GB cap:razz:.

teksavvy around $45/month taxes in for a dryloop dsl line with 200 GB you looking at 3, you get around 15meg down and 2.4 up.... and i presume 600GB worth of traffic to go with it.

somthing like that.... good luck to anyone trying to max out these juicy pipes...

I only see teksavvy has 5 or 6mb down and 800k up ... where did you get 15meg down and 2.4 up....

[TruE SkiLLS]

quick math, they want 150 plus tax so 170 a month.... you get a 50 meg line with traffic shaping and likely a 60GB cap:razz:.

teksavvy around $45/month taxes in for a dryloop dsl line with 200 GB you looking at 3, you get around 15meg down and 2.4 up.... and i presume 600GB worth of traffic to go with it.

somthing like that.... good luck to anyone trying to max out these juicy pipes...

150+tax + 10$ newsgroup = 180$ + 25$ bandwidth overage.
50mbps line at max speed with newsgroup + unlimited bandwidth

vs

40+tax (teksavvy) x 10 (5mbps x 10 = 50mbps) + 10$ newsgroup = 460$
mlppp 50mbps line at max speed with newsgroup with unlimited bandwidth

tell me which is better =P


I only see teksavvy has 5 or 6mb down and 800k up ... where did you get 15meg down and 2.4 up....

use mlppp

[mulambo187]

Bonding multiple dsl lines for increased bandwidth, also has the feature of bypassing also creates traffic that is unmanageable with bell.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22584701-How-to-bond-3x-lines-for-MLPPP-with-tomato-on-a-WRT54GL

for a start

TruE SkiLLS: i guess it depends on which one allows you to most fully utilize the connection... my buddy is paying like 60-70 a month to rogers right now, and its really hit or miss for xxxtreeme speeds. and i tried running a torrent on it, what a joke...

[TruE SkiLLS]

TruE SkiLLS: i guess it depends on which one allows you to most fully utilize the connection... my buddy is paying like 60-70 a month to rogers right now, and its really hit or miss for xxxtreeme speeds. and i tried running a torrent on it, what a joke...

I know what you mean, that's why I don't torrent at all (or not much)... but when I ddl (direct dl) or newsgroup... the speed ALWAYS hits the cap for me, which isn't bad.

[Paolo]

torrents are jokes. they DONT want you to run them so complain all you want. your doing something illegal.

[Star*]

Oic

[cmge]

torrents are jokes. they DONT want you to run them so complain all you want. your doing something illegal.

let me guess u use newsgroups?... :rolleyes: .. not all torrents are illegal. there are quite a few that are legal.

[JAC]

LOL. Who wants to bet it'll be 50/1, which means the customer will never reach full speed because the upstream is saturated?

[xxgg]

So any official words on . . .

upload speed?
bandwidth cap?
throttling to make this 50mbps act like 1mbps?

[mlerner]

LOL. Who wants to bet it'll be 50/1, which means the customer will never reach full speed because the upstream is saturated?

DOCSIS 3.0 will fix that for all customers. There will be no more upstream issues for those nodes.

[Eveonder]

In that case, the speed will be nice... but the cap is still nasty... anyone interested in that kind of speed wouldn't want a cap.

[mlerner]

In that case, the speed will be nice... but the cap is still nasty... anyone interested in that kind of speed wouldn't want a cap.

Agreed but according to Rogers, they've said that a lot of customers just want to open pages and email attachments faster.

[JAC]

DOCSIS 3.0 will fix that for all customers. There will be no more upstream issues for those nodes.

How, though? You still need a 37.5/1 ratio for acks, don't you?

[CodecX81]

150+tax + 10$ newsgroup = 180$ + 25$ bandwidth overage.
50mbps line at max speed with newsgroup + unlimited bandwidth
vs
40+tax (teksavvy) x 10 (5mbps x 10 = 50mbps) + 10$ newsgroup = 460$
mlppp 50mbps line at max speed with newsgroup with unlimited bandwidth

tell me which is better =P


haha yeah not even mentioning startup costs for hardware

Just have to have 10 modems, 10 dryloops....an extra switch on ur network to hold the other 5 modems as well.

Bell will prolly have to come to your house about 20-30 times.. That is even if your home can handle that many connections. (What house can handle 10 phone lines?)

and the complexity required to actually setup a 10x MLPPP can make that 150/mo seem much easier to take on :)

[mlerner]

How, though? You still need a 37.5/1 ratio for acks, don't you?

Channel bonding will be implemented which improves the capacity of the node.

[slade]

DOCSIS 3.0 will fix that for all customers. There will be no more upstream issues for those nodes.

Maybe if they run all their upstreams to 64QAM. Docsis 3.0 is not about increasing upstream capacity, its about increasing the downstream capacity.

[Gee]

How much is fibre to your door now?

[mlerner]

Maybe if they run all their upstreams to 64QAM. Docsis 3.0 is not about increasing upstream capacity, its about increasing the downstream capacity.

Not on it's own no but with what they're doing with channel bonding and changing the upstream channels it will result in significant improvements.

[murdoc2k]

Agreed but according to Rogers, they've said that a lot of customers just want to open pages and email attachments faster.

I don't think my grandmother could tell the difference between opening a webpage at 50mbps or 10mbps.

Folks let's not buy Roger's BS. No one needs 50mbps to surf the web. It's just ridiculous.

[slade]

Not on it's own no but with what they're doing with channel bonding and changing the upstream channels it will result in significant improvements.

Unless they are running a 1Ghz plant, then bonding upstreams is probably last on their list of to-do's, you can only fit so much in the spectrum, and Cable TV takes up a great chunk of that.

[Bskll]

haha yeah not even mentioning startup costs for hardware

Just have to have 10 modems, 10 dryloops....an extra switch on ur network to hold the other 5 modems as well.

Bell will prolly have to come to your house about 20-30 times.. That is even if your home can handle that many connections. (What house can handle 10 phone lines?)

and the complexity required to actually setup a 10x MLPPP can make that 150/mo seem much easier to take on :)

assuming that bell stopped being a big dick and opened their 10mbits adsl2+ options to wholesaler, mlppp on 5 lines would be reasonable.

[TruE SkiLLS]

haha yeah not even mentioning startup costs for hardware

Just have to have 10 modems, 10 dryloops....an extra switch on ur network to hold the other 5 modems as well.

Bell will prolly have to come to your house about 20-30 times.. That is even if your home can handle that many connections. (What house can handle 10 phone lines?)

and the complexity required to actually setup a 10x MLPPP can make that 150/mo seem much easier to take on :)

I would actually like to see that.

[Blackmajik]

I know they've upgraded the Express from 7 Mbps to 10 Mbps lately and the Extreme seems to be the same. I'm wondering if they will add more tiers to their system since a jump from 10 Mbps to 50 Mbps is a little extreme.

[brucedlx]

This "people want to open emails even faster" argument is a steaming load of ----.

WHO on EARTH would notice the difference?

[Asad_A203]

maybe this is rogers positioning to put something in play when the whole internet rate & ect crap is settled & they put a cap on things on dsl connections .....

this MIGHT be worth it if its non capped & had like a 1 tb cap


Shaw already has 25 MBps and 100 MBps services in Western canada (DOCSIS 3 for the later) and the cap is 150 GB for 25 MBps and 200 GB cap ($250/280 unbundled) :mad:. Canadian internet providers are one step backwards for everything...

[mlerner]

Unless they are running a 1Ghz plant, then bonding upstreams is probably last on their list of to-do's, you can only fit so much in the spectrum, and Cable TV takes up a great chunk of that.

Yes but if you haven't noticed they've been getting rid of as much analog as they can and I do know they are making a good number of changes to address points of congestion.

[mlerner]

I don't think my grandmother could tell the difference between opening a webpage at 50mbps or 10mbps.

Folks let's not buy Roger's BS. No one needs 50mbps to surf the web. It's just ridiculous.

Apparently 10 is their sweet spot but on the whole I can see this as a good thing as it means they are consistently improving the network and removing bottlenecks. If they can offer 50 for many customers then they have a solid network for the rest of us.

[murdoc2k]

Apparently 10 is their sweet spot but on the whole I can see this as a good thing as it means they are consistently improving the network and removing bottlenecks. If they can offer 50 for many customers then they have a solid network for the rest of us.

If they have enough network infrastructure to sustain these speeds then they wouldn't be putting a ridiculous 60gb cap on the 10mbps connections now would they? The main argument that they have for throttling the internet is because "too much bandwidth is taken up especially by the use of p2p software which slows down the speeds and affected a large number of users"

[Jon Lai]

Express is still at 10mbps. How about we up that (AND the cap) before talking about 50mbps connections? Jeez.

[JAC]

Channel bonding will be implemented which improves the capacity of the node.

Sure, they can increase upstream capability, but will they? If they offer 50/1, the upstream will still be saturated after 37.5 Mbps.

[mlerner]

If they have enough network infrastructure to sustain these speeds then they wouldn't be putting a ridiculous 60gb cap on the 10mbps connections now would they? The main argument that they have for throttling the internet is because "too much bandwidth is taken up especially by the use of p2p software which slows down the speeds and affected a large number of users"

They've only just started upgrading. Check back in a few months to see what happens to the caps.

[nfuz]

this MIGHT be worth it if its non capped & had like a 1 tb cap

I really need to login when I browse, so I don't have to read contradicting nonsensical garbage like this from you...

It cant have a 1tb cap AND be non capped...... god.

[nfuz]

So, I dont see any mention of a cap on the page... maybe Im not lookin hard enough.

[mlerner]

So, I dont see any mention of a cap on the page... maybe Im not lookin hard enough.

No details yet other than price and speed.

[nfuz]

No details yet other than price and speed.

Did we really need 3 pages of people pre-whining about a cap that may not exist then? ..... shesh

[TruE SkiLLS]

Express is still at 10mbps. How about we up that (AND the cap) before talking about 50mbps connections? Jeez.

if you haven't noticed, express JUST upgraded to 10mbps a few weeks back...
how about upgrading extreme before talking about upping express again.

[Asad_A203]

If they have enough network infrastructure to sustain these speeds then they wouldn't be putting a ridiculous 60gb cap on the 10mbps connections now would they? The main argument that they have for throttling the internet is because "too much bandwidth is taken up especially by the use of p2p software which slows down the speeds and affected a large number of users"

Yet streaming HD content (I know it is compressed but it is still fairly large) to possibly hundred thousand people, say with a UFC event, doesn't hamper their infrastructure? Not to mention the ever growing HD content they are having available? Maybe it is different here since Winnipeg has nearly zero congestion and Shaw here has been working to reduce the few nodes that currently do, but the cable companies IMO are blowing smoke.

The DSL company here (MTS) has unlimited bandwidth and I am seriously considering getting that (basic cheap package) just to run my torrents and using my Shaw connection for everything else (I am at around 60GB of my 100GB cap from a few torrents). Kind of ironic for me to do something like that too, lol.

[lookingforstufffff]

I like where this is going, unfortunately all that speed will go to waste if I'm stuck with a 60 GB cap (haven't read anything but just using an arbitrary number). This would be definitely be "revolutionary" if it was unlimited bandwidth...

[Avatar]

It's just faster..... to reach the cap. LOL.

The speed of the Internet also depend on the speed of other side that you are getting the data stream from and speed of your PC, number of ppl share the node etc..

I myself won't pay over $100/m for Internet access especially the existance of the cap. Pointless.10m..50m just a number game..

[Emancipated]

torrents are jokes. they DONT want you to run them so complain all you want. your doing something illegal.

Paulo, Roger's Lacky to the rescue! Who said torrents are illegal? YOu can get distros and demos of games on torrents. Some HD trailers hit torrents as well to offset the bandwidth usage that a server dishes out.

Man, I hate Roger's PR machine.. give it a rest.

I might try the Ultimate package seeing as I'm already paying over $100 a month. I just want to try it for a month or two. I wonder how fast an 720P movie will download; you could watch it as it's downloading and finish the download quicker than the movie.

[Gee]

I wonder how fast an 720P movie will download; you could watch it as it's downloading and finish the download quicker than the movie.

You are not going to notice a speed increase.

It depends on the source. If you are using a torrnet with many people seeding the file, then it will be blazing fast. As long as there is no throttle from Rogers.

If you are using news or some other source, it will depend on the provider. No one will give you 50 mbps download, if they did that for everyone, a few people on the pipe will kill their connection.

[Emancipated]

You are not going to notice a speed increase.

It depends on the source. If you are using a torrnet with many people seeding the file, then it will be blazing fast. As long as there is no throttle from Rogers.

If you are using news or some other source, it will depend on the provider. No one will give you 50 mbps download, if they did that for everyone, a few people on the pipe will kill their connection.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4057/picture1ybf.png
RS.com maxed out Extreme connection. I know there's room to go higher.

[Zero1]

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4057/picture1ybf.png
RS.com maxed out Extreme connection. I know there's room to go higher.

That is guaranteed with Rapidshare. Not with torrents. RS accounts all the way.

[Emancipated]

That is guaranteed with Rapidshare. Not with torrents. RS accounts all the way.

Any idea what RS has gone to?

Don't forget RS has caps as well. I think they do 5GB a day still. Damn, forgot about that.

[Zero1]

Any idea what RS has gone to?

Don't forget RS has caps as well. I think they do 5GB a day still. Damn, forgot about that.

New customers now get 2.66GB per day due to the fact that most people who purchased accounts with RS weren't using a whole lot. Those who are still on the 1 year purchase or 6 month perchase etc.. before the new effect began still maintain the 10GB a day roughly 300GB per month such as myself. I have mine till about mid November of this year.

EDIT: Looks like now its been changed since I last checked an email from them. Either way for me, 150GB is more than enough for me per month. I only get a 200GB cap from teksavvy anyhow so the 300GB right now is an over kill.

[Gee]

I just got my account a month ago. I have 5 Gigs per day. I just don't have anything to download.

However, they allow you to carry forward anything that you don't use to the next day up to 25 Gigs.

If you need to download, just do it during happy hour.

From 20h00 - 04h00, they only count 10% of your actual download towards your daily quota.

When I do download, I don't think I max out my Extreme connection. I know I can do more, but the speed I get is definitely not full throttle.

Does anyone use MegaUpload? Is it worth getting an account there or is Rapid Share good enough?

[Emancipated]

I find Rapidshare has more content or is the preferred host of uploaders. It really depends what you are looking for really. I also like MegaShare which also maxes out my Extreme but the best part is, people upload the entire file as a one shot deal so you're getting sustained throughput from begin to end. I visit "teh paradox" quite a bit.

[tomtomtom]

Does anyone use MegaUpload? Is it worth getting an account there or is Rapid Share good enough?

I use megaupload. Even without paying, the speed is great and system seems to allow simultaneous download. I maxed out my DSL line at 6Mbps.;)

[slade]

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4057/picture1ybf.png
RS.com maxed out Extreme connection. I know there's room to go higher.


I hit and su-stainded 80Mb/s+ on Usenet from a 100Mb/s connection...

http://i29.tinypic.com/wsvhgn.jpg

[Emancipated]

32.98GB left. Time to get more storage :D

[dstefan]

Wtf needs speeds like that. All I want is 5mbs up/down and no caps. They say P2P is slowing down their networks. How can they offer higher speed then?
Canada is heading to the stone age in the internet department and that's because of the lack of competition here. You have Bell and Rogers who control the market. DAMN you CRTC !!!!:mad:

[TruE SkiLLS]

Wtf needs speeds like that. All I want is 5mbs up/down and no caps. They say P2P is slowing down their networks. How can they offer higher speed then?
Canada is heading to the stone age in the internet department and that's because of the lack of competition here. You have Bell and Rogers who control the market. DAMN you CRTC !!!!:mad:

I don't know about you, but 5mb updown is pretty slow. I rather have 50/1 than 5/5 myself =P

[cmolson]

The only thing I am happy about is that rogers has a cap on itself (sort of) they charge you a maximum of $25 overage fees.

I download almost everything from usenet, which is not throttled (at least I never noticed it)

On Extreme I would get a consistent 10000-12000kbps and with Extreme Plus I can get a peak of ~21000kbps.

One big issue though:

With Extreme I would ALWAYS get 10000-12000kbps download speed, With Plus it fluctuates A LOT. It goes from about 16000-20000. I'm not 100% sure if it is rogers or not, but when I tried my usenet server from school I got a consistent 26000kbps download that did not fluctuate too much.


I always plan to go over the monthly cap So my Extreme service was about $85 before tax, and the extreme plus would be about $125 not including modem rental.


I would have to say that if the speed was really 18mbps constantly I would be fine with the service, but since it fluctuates so much I don't think it is worth another $40 a month for the PLUS.


Also, on a side note to those people who use the DSL bonded connection (mlpp or whatever it is called). Do you know if it is possible to get this service in an apartment? (I live a bit too far away from the Bell place and can only get 2mbps on one line, BUT I would happily bond it to have a connection that offered better uploads. I hate the 1mbps upload speed...)

Also without a limit on billing for overage Videotron's $80/90 50mbps service is useless.. At Least with rogers we can download unlimited for $25 extra (better than no option, but still not good)

[infamouskid]

DPI on any high speed connection is still a throttled line.

[cmolson]

I know it is throttled... But I haven't noticed any throttling of my usenet service, which I connect through ssl.

At least with Extreme it was always a consistent speed. It seems with Extreme plus (I signed up to see if it was worth it) the maximum speed fluctuates a lot. (I am connected to the modem over Ethernet from the router so its not because of any wireless signal issues)

[Mayoo]

torrents are jokes. they DONT want you to run them so complain all you want. your doing something illegal.

Torrents are not jokes .. unless ur joking .. many legal things are been shared over torrents .. even independant movie makers .. see below

LINK (http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/07/08/tech-crtc-hearings-film-industry-disabilities-mts-allstream.html)

[cmolson]

It shouldn't matter what you are doing on the rogers network. You are paying for internet service, there shouldn't be any limitations on speed depending on what you are doing.

And as the poster above mentioned, there are TONS of legal things that bitorrent is used for. Pretty much all linux distros are offered as torrents, also sites which cannot afford the bandwidth use torrents to take the load of their servers.

If they were that concerned with it being illegal they would altogether block it. By throttling it, they are just admitting they don't want people doing it and have sold more bandwidth than they can give.

Even telco companies do this, they don't enough infrastructure to allow every single person on the phone at the same time, but they have enough so that even at max load you never get any problems.

Rogers does not have enough to handle the peak times, which is clear when people get slow downs during the peak hours.


On the other hand, would you rather they limit everyone to like 5mbps(made up number) so that you always get max speed? or have an 18mbps connection that is flaky.

[Mayoo]

Also Nortel is a Canadian company which is going down .. they got great Optical products under MEN ... Rogers / BELL / Telus should buy those 40G optical Switches and solve these problems and it will also help Nortel ..

[cmolson]

lol yeah, I pass by some empty Nortel Parking lots on the way to work.

[edgarb]

It's nice to see changes coming! We need more competition though.

[Oversized Rooster]

What I would like to see is Verizon coming to Canada and lay some carnage to Rogers and especially Bell.

[Lawl and Order]

torrents are jokes. they DONT want you to run them so complain all you want. your doing something illegal.
plenty of legitimate files and software are shared via torrent - don't post if you have no idea what you are talking about

[Digital_Domain]

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Rogers-Offers-50Mbps-DOCSIS-30-80211N-Gateway-103404

Canadian broadband operator Rogers Communications has dropped us a line to note that they're rolling out 50Mbps DOCSIS 3.0 service next month. What's more, the carrier says they're the first cable operator in North America to offers users a 802.11n-based home gateway. "We're running a contest where we're giving away 50 N gateways to eligible customers who sign up for 50 Mbps service," Rogers' Stacey Fowler tells us.

According to a carrier press release, the first fifty customers to register here will get a free 802.11N gateway, valued at around $200.

Before you do that, you should note that the new tier's very pricey at $150 Canadian ($129 U.S.), only offers 2Mbps upstream, and comes with a 125GB per month cap (plus overages). Rogers has also traditionally been at the forefront of fiddling with traffic throttling as part of their never-ending game of cat and mouse with P2P users.

Judging from discussion in our Rogers forum, it looks like many customers might pass on this latest offer.

I want to see upload speeds and plan prices once they finally get everything ready for DOCSIS 3.0. Right now, I think this plan is more just to test their DOCSIS 3.0 network while they work out the kinks.

[illyas]

From dslreports:


Hi all,

No prices.

Extreme Plus:

Download: 25 Mbps
Upload: 1 Mbps
Data Transfer: 125 GB per month

An "Enhanced Home Networking Gateway (Wireless N)" is required for this service. The existing "cap" for overages will still apply @ $25, no word yet on the per GB charge.

The rollout date for this is August 17, 2009 in the GTA. Subject to change, of course!! Other areas will continue to be rolled-out throughout 2010.

---

Ultimate Tier:

Download: 50 Mbps
Upload: 2 Mbps
Data Transfer: 175 GB per month

Customers are required to have Digital Equipment (Meaning Digital Cable), and the Wireless N modem is required as well. August 17, 2009 is the rollout date. Subject to change, as always .. other areas to follow throughout 2010.

---

Regarding DOCSIS3 - August 15 is the date for implementation in the follow postal codes:

Toronto
M5X
M5J
M5W
M5C
M5G
M5B
M4Y
M5R
M4V
M4T
M4S
M5P
M4P
M4R
M4N
M5M
M2P
M2N
M2R
M2M

Markham
L3T

Vaughan
L4J

Richmond Hill
L4B
L4C
L4E

Newmarket
L3X
L3Y

Bradford // East / West Gwillimbury
L9N

All other areas surrounding Toronto (Pickering, Ajax, Brampton, Missisauga, etc) DOCSIS3 is expected on September 18th.

NOTE: THIS IS ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE AT ANY TIME. I post this as a user on this forum, and this should not be considered "official" word by Rogers until it's announced publicly.. but I figured you all would enjoy it. If you're wondering if your area is included with the DOCSIS3 rollout, lemme know the first 3 of your post code.

[Ducky]

there is way more content on rapidshare....however, you have a download limit per day...

megaupload...less content but no limits...when i have premium status, my speed is always at 800 kilobytes per second...

i never had a rapidshare because i don't like the idea of having a download limit...

back to the topic...60gig PER month is crap...i can do that in a day or two...that's why i left rogers long time ago...


I just got my account a month ago. I have 5 Gigs per day. I just don't have anything to download.

However, they allow you to carry forward anything that you don't use to the next day up to 25 Gigs.

If you need to download, just do it during happy hour.

From 20h00 - 04h00, they only count 10% of your actual download towards your daily quota.

When I do download, I don't think I max out my Extreme connection. I know I can do more, but the speed I get is definitely not full throttle.

Does anyone use MegaUpload? Is it worth getting an account there or is Rapid Share good enough?

[vitrify]

I have both RS and MU.

I must say that RS has a hell of a lot more content, but they have the 5GB cap per day, so whenever I can, I go for Megaupload. They can both max out my speed (1MB) on extreme.

[Ducky]

you pay for your RS account?



I have both RS and MU.

I must say that RS has a hell of a lot more content, but they have the 5GB cap per day, so whenever I can, I go for Megaupload. They can both max out my speed (1MB) on extreme.

[lookingforstufffff]

you pay for your RS account?

How do you get an account without paying? :-0

[Jon Lai]

From dslreports:

So they've finally released bandwidth cap info... 175GB for the 50mbps service. Not enough at all.

Personally, this sounds about right:
Express - 150GB
Extreme - 200GB
Extreme Plus - 300GB
Ultimate - 400GB

With these caps I think the applications will start rolling in :P

[zod]

So they've finally released bandwidth cap info... 175GB for the 50mbps service. Not enough at all.

Personally, this sounds about right:
Express - 150GB
Extreme - 200GB
Extreme Plus - 300GB
Ultimate - 400GB

With these caps I think the applications will start rolling in :P

I'd say 500gb on ultimate :) And it also be nice if Canadian ISP's offered reasonable overage charges. Teksavvy sells extra gb's. 100gb's/10 bux a month. So if you're a heavier user you can add an extra 100gb or two on your monthly bill.

Canadian ISP's (and some US ones), implement these caps, and offer no reasonable alternative for heavy users, even if they are willing to pay for it. It's lame.

[kleptodathief]

gonna max out my 25$ surcharge this month... robbers FTL! i think im gonna fill up half of my 1tb black cav :idea::D

[tomtomtom]

gonna max out my 25$ surcharge this month... robbers FTL! i think im gonna fill up half of my 1tb black cav :idea::D

Can you handle 1 TB of porn seriously?:lol:

[Mayoo]

Utorrent released 1.8.3 which got the fix for ISP Throttling .. :D

[ali123]

plenty of legitimate files and software are shared via torrent - don't post if you have no idea what you are talking about

This is true I've downloaded legal through torrents to but just using common sense over 90% of it is for illegal use

[chris0101]

Even if they did offer 50 mbps, lets think about this for a moment - are you actually going to get 50 mbps?

They're going to throttle traffic like there's no tomorrow! Face it - this is Robbers we're dealing with.

[TruE SkiLLS]

Even if they did offer 50 mbps, lets think about this for a moment - are you actually going to get 50 mbps?

They're going to throttle traffic like there's no tomorrow! Face it - this is Robbers we're dealing with.

read the whole thread... newsgroup.

[izzyzz]

It's a step forward.

When Fiber was first available in the states the prices were astronomical as well. Verizon currently offers 25/15 for $120/month or so. You get a bunch of free goodies though.

With 50mbps available, the competitors will have to up their game. This is a good thing!

"Competitors"?? There is only one competitor (at least in GTA) -- Bell. Every other ISP depends on Bell's network and is limited by Bell's equipment. This is not the States or Europe.

Having oligopolies controlling our communications is insane and backwards policy any way you look at it. They are discussing this situation in the Senate and I hope something will be done about it.