Is this allowed? Hidden camera in house..

[desm0nd]

So I just moved into a house that the owner lives in as well with his partner. Its shared everything, with 3 other roommates living here as well.

So recently he told me that he has a hidden camera(s) around the house to make sure nothing gets broken or stolen because there are so many people coming in and out of the house.

He wont tell me where it is but assures me that there is one(or possibly more) on the main floor.

There are none in my bedroom or bathroom.

Is this allowed? He never told me about it when I moved in.

If it is allowed, can he not tell me where it is.

It is his house, I have not signed a lease or any contract so basically I am just renting out the room so I have no real rights, so he could ultimately kick me out, but just curious about the situation.

[JAC]

LOL. You're going to see your pecker on the internets!

[CSAgent]

sigh.... residential private property. Owner can claim it's for security purposes, which is perfectly legal. Otherwise, having a security system in a house by say ADT would be illegal.

Don't like it, rent another place.

[stealth]

Creepy, but the key is:

There are none in my bedroom or bathroom.

So I guess you havent got too much to worry about. Although I'd bet he's just bluffing hoping the threat of taped evidence will keep you guys on the straight and narrow.

Only one way to find out for sure!

[jackwest]

move on.

if your living in an environment that has that high a risk of crime, its trouble

otherwise if you're living with a crazy who is that paranoid, that is trouble

move on

[rabbit]

from the movie Hackers: Snoop unto them as they snoop unto you.

[Flyer]

"You have cameras around the house? Good, then I won't need to tell you where I hid all the rent cheques I was going to give you."

[applecheeks]

Don't like it, rent another place.

I would HATE that. I don't think I could live in a place like that.

[hoob]

So I just moved into a house that the owner lives in as well with his partner. Its shared everything, with 3 other roommates living here as well.

So recently he told me that he has a hidden camera(s) around the house to make sure nothing gets broken or stolen because there are so many people coming in and out of the house.

He wont tell me where it is but assures me that there is one(or possibly more) on the main floor.

There are none in my bedroom or bathroom.

The obvious solution is to call his bluff. Punch a hole in the wall somewhere, call him up, and challenge him to say what it is you did, and where. Or even better, don't do ANYTHING, but say you did do something, and see what he does.

[bobbings]

It's being recorded on video but is it also recording audio?

[najibs]

maybe they have night vision too! :twisted:

[angekfire]

It is his property, he can have cameras if he wants. No lease signed, he can kick you out whenever he wants, and you are free to leave whenever you want. I still think bathroom cameras would be illegal, but apparently isn't the problem.

Just look for the cameras, he could just be bluffing.

[ipxxx]

LOL. You're going to see your pecker on the internets!

hahaha

[Reign]

I just installed one in my room because my sister kept stealing my hair gel WTF:confused:

[win-star]

just clean the house and look for them while cleaning

[DuDe1411]

did he tell you before you signed the contract/lease?
arent they suppose to tell you before you even move in?

[Ebola]

Kill the power to the house and go looking.

Alternatively, see if he was dumb enough to label the system in your fuse/breaker panel.

[Coke355mL]

Like others said, you're just renting a room in his house and supposedly, there is no cameras in your bedroom or bathroom. You're not an actual tenant either if I understand you correctly. So living in that property with the owner there, he can do whatever he wants to his house.

Unless you're renting the entire house, that's different.

FYI - Hidden cameras today can be virtually undetectable to the naked eye. They can be inside an alarm clock, inside a power outlet, there's just lots of places you can place one. So best way to detect one is to buy yourself a hidden camera detector.

But in my opinion, I wouldn't bother living in a place like that. Honestly, I think he's bluffing though.

[fakishan]

walk around naked and see if he comments on it

[Ottomaddox]

Unless you plan on trashing the place, what's the difference?

[5dark]

Unless you plan on trashing the place, what's the difference?

Yes, if you're not committing crime why NOT have a camera in your bed/bathroom monitored by the city either?

Why not let them search your bags at check points or have random inspections into your home to ensure your "ok"?

[Ottomaddox]

Yes, if you're not committing crime why NOT have a camera in your bed/bathroom monitored by the city either?

Why not let them search your bags at check points or have random inspections into your home to ensure your "ok"?

We're not talking about the 'city' monitoring anything in this case, and we're not talking about checking bags either.

a) It's private property, and b) he has a choice whether he lives there or not.
There's no lease or agreement holding him there.

[5dark]

We're not talking about the 'city' monitoring anything in this case, and we're not talking about checking bags either.

a) It's private property, and b) he has a choice whether he lives there or not.
There's no lease or agreement holding him there.

Ok I made a bit of a jump but the idea a camera, ill intent or not, is OK in a rental property is pretty sketchy.

The OP can leave but it sounds like he already moved in before the owner "recently" told him about a camera. What if it happened to you? Still ok?

[gordholio]

If I were in this situation, I would move out as soon as possible (if I could).
I wouldn't want a camera or cameras on me all day, even if I did nothing wrong.
Pretty creepy.

[GangStarr]

I'd move out...


btw, check out logitech's alarm clock camera

http://www.logitech.com/repository/682/jpg/6784.1.0.jpg

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/webcam_communications/video_security_systems/devices/4325&cl=GB,EN

[jstaneon]

is your landlords name Pee-Wee Herman by chance?

[gman]

Ok I made a bit of a jump but the idea a camera, ill intent or not, is OK in a rental property is pretty sketchy.

The OP can leave but it sounds like he already moved in before the owner "recently" told him about a camera. What if it happened to you? Still ok?

OP did not rent the area which is monitored by the camera. The monitored area is a common area. You are not supposed to be naked in a common area. Another sensitive area, bathroom, is not monitored as mentioned.

If you rent an apartment, your unit cannot be monitored but the common area such as elevator, gym, lobby can be monitored.

[UrbanPoet]

is your landlords name jstaneon by any chance?

[angekfire]

Just be aware in advance:

The call will come from inside the house.

[slowtyper]

If it were me, I'd just find a new place...it creeps me out.

[reflex]

Like others said, you're just renting a room in his house and supposedly, there is no cameras in your bedroom or bathroom. You're not an actual tenant either if I understand you correctly. So living in that property with the owner there, he can do whatever he wants to his house.

Unless you're renting the entire house, that's different.

FYI - Hidden cameras today can be virtually undetectable to the naked eye. They can be inside an alarm clock, inside a power outlet, there's just lots of places you can place one. So best way to detect one is to buy yourself a hidden camera detector.

But in my opinion, I wouldn't bother living in a place like that. Honestly, I think he's bluffing though.

What's a hidden camera detector???

[Paolo]

check the bathrooms for hidden cameras. you dont want to be on tthe internet the next day.

[45ED]

What's a hidden camera detector???


http://www.spystuff.com/SHOP/Images/counter/cnt_cam_locator_DLU-02.jpg
Hidden Camera Locator DLU-02 - $ 2,495.00 (USD)

The new DLU-02 is a lightweight, battery-powered device that allows the user to quickly identify and locate hidden cameras, including spy/pinhole cameras, CCTV cameras, camcorders and auto focus cameras. The DLU-02 provides the operator with a choice of LED colors and operational modes. Two LED wavelengths are user selectable via a toggle button on the unit. The DLU-02 is designed for optimum performance over a range from 3 - 33 feet (1-10 meters). It is primarely intended for use indoors. The unit can be used beyond 10 meters and in outdoor situations, but performance will be degraded depending on the ambient lighting conditions.

Features:

* Battery saving auto-off switch.
* Power : 1 - AAA battery
* Size: 5-3/4 x 2-1/4 x 1-1/8" ( 15 x 6 x 2-3/4 cm)

(Source (http://www.spystuff.com/SHOP/))

*Canadian Store


There's definitely a more affordable hidden camera detector somewhere (maybe at the same store) but I'm too lazy to look for it.