Adminstrative Studies at York (BAS)

[1barginxhunter91]

Hey guys just wondering how is this program at york and some of the courses i will have to take next year and what are your schdule like. Any input would be helpful. Also is this program any good? compared to Ryerson Business Management?

[goJays]

seems like two way different programs..

[wikka]

Lol I've talked about this BAS program so much. To sum it up. If you're a self-starter, good at networking, and can study hard, it doesn't matter where you go.

BAS
- Close to Schulich, you can network, join their clubs and sneak into info sessions
- BAS is in the shadow of Schulich, employers like to ask why you didn't go to Schulich
- Lame degree name
- Strong accounting with decent recruitment numbers from the big4
- Tonnes of other programs and courses to choose from should you change your mind
- No centralized building for BAS where students can truly develop relationships, campus is also in middle of no where with a million buses trying to kill you
- Night courses 7-10pm that'll put any energetic 1st yr student to sleep
- Poor career support (funding all going to Schulich)
- York U Lions suck at like all sports
- Classmates all have napoleon complex for not getting into Schulich, either that or severe underachievers.
- BAS Exists as a cash cow for York U. Huge enrollment in the BAS program but none of the funding to reflect the number of students.
- This program will never improve because Schulich is there.

Ted Rogers
- Ted Rogers building ....great for a real b-school community feel
- Better career/academic support
- B.Comm Ted Roger's School of Management or B.A.S. from admin studies?
- MBAs are your alumni network
- Downtown campus aka awesome pubs
- Girls aren't as hot as York's
- Potential to be awesome in the future (could turn out as good as Ryerson's journalism + radio programs)
- No school spirit ?? Though I don't think York has much of that either.

I don't know much about Ted Rogers TBH but I rather go here where all the funding for business programs goes here rather than spread between Schulich and B.A.S....Also Ted Rogers shows lots of potential eg. through rebranding, MBA, new building, global management degree etc. (kinda like Schulich when they first got their rebranding and funding 10+ years ago...actually the steps they're taking are very similar its odd.)

...Try to get into another business program is probably the best advice.

[1barginxhunter91]

Lol I've talked about this BAS program so much. To sum it up. If you're a self-starter, good at networking, and can study hard, it doesn't matter where you go.

BAS
- Close to Schulich, you can network, join their clubs and sneak into info sessions
- BAS is in the shadow of Schulich, employers like to ask why you didn't go to Schulich
- Lame degree name
- Strong accounting with decent recruitment numbers from the big4
- Tonnes of other programs and courses to choose from should you change your mind
- No centralized building for BAS where students can truly develop relationships, campus is also in middle of no where with a million buses trying to kill you
- Night courses 7-10pm that'll put any energetic 1st yr student to sleep
- Poor career support (funding all going to Schulich)
- York U Lions suck at like all sports
- Classmates all have napoleon complex for not getting into Schulich, either that or severe underachievers.
- BAS Exists as a cash cow for York U. Huge enrollment in the BAS program but none of the funding to reflect the number of students.
- This program will never improve because Schulich is there.

Ted Rogers
- Ted Rogers building ....great for a real b-school community feel
- Better career/academic support
- B.Comm Ted Roger's School of Management or B.A.S. from admin studies?
- MBAs are your alumni network
- Downtown campus aka awesome pubs
- Girls aren't as hot as York's
- Potential to be awesome in the future (could turn out as good as Ryerson's journalism + radio programs)
- No school spirit ?? Though I don't think York has much of that either.

I don't know much about Ted Rogers TBH but I rather go here where all the funding for business programs goes here rather than spread between Schulich and B.A.S....Also Ted Rogers shows lots of potential eg. through rebranding, MBA, new building, global management degree etc. (kinda like Schulich when they first got their rebranding and funding 10+ years ago...actually the steps they're taking are very similar its odd.)

...Try to get into another business program is probably the best advice.

wows thanks for this greatly apperciated just wondering you mentioned there accounting program being good how about thier finanance program?

[wikka]

Finance at York.... Top analyst positions in Finance always goes to top b-schools like Queens, Ivey, etc.... unlike accounting where you have a decent shot at a big4 and CA designation from any school really. I wouldn't recommend studying Finance if you're not in a top school because the jobs I see people land from BAS Finance are in personal banking at retail banks and selling insurance (not exactly the best jobs)

Banks really care about the name of the school at the undergraduate level for finance positions. From my experience... very few banks (if any) go to Admin studies to recruit because why go there when they can go to Schulich? This doesn't happen at Ryerson though.

Hope this helps

[1barginxhunter91]

yeah it does lol i wanted to do finance at York but with all that helpful information provided i might switch to accounting the only good thing about york is that its close to my house 30 minutes compared to ryerson which i have to take the train down there everyday and it will take me close to 1-1.5 hours? Just out of curiousity how do you know so much about BAS because based on the description and detail you gave me from before you either know someone who been there or was in that program yourself?

[Sigurd]

BAS
- No centralized building for BAS where students can truly develop relationships, campus is also in middle of no where with a million buses trying to kill you

Well that made me lol.



- York U Lions suck at like all sports

"In 2008, the York Lion's men's soccer team won the Canadian men's soccer championship, York's first national championship in any sport in 18 years, and their first soccer championship since 1977."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/York_Lions



On a more recent note:
http://www.yorku.ca/sprtyork/MediaReleases/Archive/Release.asp?Release=2709




Oh and to OP, everything wikka says is absolutely spot on. You should try applying to more places than to limit yourself to these two.

[wikka]

Hey OP yeah I went to York BAS for accounting and transferred out and i'm doing economics at UofT now. I went to York to try to transfer into Schulich and when that didn't work out I took BAS accounting. I know the business programs at York inside out lolol I was so unsatisfied with the program and had to get out. Don't let the school's location turn you off from Ryerson. Between the two programs I would say Ryerson is definitely better. Banks actually recruit there! If Ryerson and York was the same distance which one would you go to?

Sigurd: Lion's victory is such a fluke lol like Greece winning the UEFA!

[1barginxhunter91]

obviously i would choose ryerson if the distances were the same. What was the BAS program based on like a lot of theory math plus for first year what is manditory to take? are there like any pass fail courses?? cause i know for ryerson the first 2 semesters you take 6 courses and then 2-4th year you take 5 courese??

[wikka]

obviously i would choose ryerson if the distances were the same. What was the BAS program based on like a lot of theory math plus for first year what is manditory to take? are there like any pass fail courses?? cause i know for ryerson the first 2 semesters you take 6 courses and then 2-4th year you take 5 courese??

Typical BAS 1st yr courses

- Accounting
- Marketing
- Intro to Admin Studies
- Business in a Canadian Context
- Micro/Macro Economics
- One Social Science, Humanities or Natural Science
- Human Resources
- Intro to Stats

The BAS, like lots of programs at York is very flexible with how you take the courses. You can be doing 3-5 courses a year and make up for it in summer school.

The only math in the whole program is Stats 1 and Stats 2, maybe Finance and Accounting if you consider that math.

[1barginxhunter91]

what is intro to admin studies is this a pAss fail course

[ontop]

what's the cutoff for BAS?

[1barginxhunter91]

one of my friends got in with an 84 but didnt choose york