Anyways Possible to Order DishnetWork in Canada?

[ilusa]

So i was using fta for a few years. As you probably know the fta box's no longer work, my house is already wired for Dishnetwork and i would love to continue to watch there service.

Does anyone know how i can go about ordering dishnetwork?

As i really dont want to with Bell

Let me know

Thanks

[mjjrules]

If you know someone in the US that will let you use their address and credit card.

[Nettles]

If you have relatives in the US who have Dishnet or Direct TV, you can do this:

get them to tell Dishnetwork that they've bought new recievers. Dishnetwork will ask them for card numbers and reciever numbers and whatever other info. You'll then get the same channels which they get. They'll probably be charged extra for the new recievers (I think it's $4/reciever) so you might have to chip in on the bill.

If you don't have any relatives or friends there then I'm sure you can come up with some sort of agreement if you can contact anyone there where you pay part of their bill.

[ilusa]

If you have relatives in the US who have Dishnet or Direct TV, you can do this:

get them to tell Dishnetwork that they've bought new recievers. Dishnetwork will ask them for card numbers and reciever numbers and whatever other info. You'll then get the same channels which they get. They'll probably be charged extra for the new recievers (I think it's $4/reciever) so you might have to chip in on the bill.

If you don't have any relatives or friends there then I'm sure you can come up with some sort of agreement if you can contact anyone there where you pay part of their bill.

This is exactly what i would like to do... Id even be willing to pay the full monthly bill..

If anyone knows anyone who would be willing to help

Send me a pm

Thanks

[kcorscadden]

So i was using fta for a few years. As you probably know the fta box's no longer work, my house is already wired for Dishnetwork and i would love to continue to watch there service.

Does anyone know how i can go about ordering dishnetwork?

As i really dont want to with Bell

Let me know

Thanks

FTA does still work, but not in the way that you are used too.

It is called IKS

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not legally

[ilusa]

Not looking to get back into the fta at all

Im just looking to subscribe

[maherc]

any news on How to get a legal SUB in Toronto

[jhardy]

:arrowu: You can't. It's illegal whether you pay or don't pay.

[Syne]

That's right, it's illegal for you to capture a signal that's trespassing on your property. In doing so, you aren't depriving the company of profit, since you can't subscribe to the service anyways.

That is illegal.

/walks away confused

[Blackmajik]

That's right, it's illegal for you to capture a signal that's trespassing on your property. In doing so, you aren't depriving the company of profit, since you can't subscribe to the service anyways.

That is illegal.

/walks away confused

Not only are you depriving revenue from Canadian companies, you are also taking profit for the Canadian Government mainly through taxes. I doubt they would care as much as someone doing FTA/IKS these days.

[jhardy]

Blackmajik, real FTA is fine. Those signals are not encrypted. And you forgot to mention that US carriers have a lot of content that "they" (the CRTC) don't want you to see.

Dish and DTV used to be grey market in Canada if you payed for them, black market if not. They are now black market completely. Blame the CRTC and the Canadian TV industry for that. (Coincidently, the same people who want to, and probably will, impose the TV tax.)

Syne, that's the excuse the pirates used to use.

[Syne]

Not only are you depriving revenue from Canadian companies, you are also taking profit for the Canadian Government mainly through taxes. I doubt they would care as much as someone doing FTA/IKS these days.

This is all assuming that you would have paid for Canadian services in the first place. I always find this argument particularly flimsy, whether it's file sharing, sneaking into a movie theatre, or capturing FTA.

Why is the burden on me to prove against their potential losses? If I truly wasn't going to pay for the service anyways, then there is a win:neutral scenario. Ethically speaking, this reasoning is flawless.

Only if they can prove that I am depriving them of something, can they level any sort of argument against my actions.

[Syne]

Syne, that's the excuse the pirates used to use.

It's not an excuse though. The signal is hitting your property. If you, in the privacy of your own home, have a device that will turn this invading electromagnetic wave into something meaningful, then I see no ethical argument as to why you shouldn't.

[jhardy]

:arrowu: Capturing and watching FTA is not illegal.

[Shaner]

I detest Canadian content rules. They shove Canadian content down our throat, but many of us don't want it in the first place. Other than CBC showing the Leafs games, there's not a single Canadian channel or program that I watch. I also don't like many Canadians bands, so why would I want their music shoved down my throat on the radio? That's not even the worst thing either. The worst is having to pay more for internet and cell phones because the CRTC won't allow much in the way of foreign ownership to enter the market. Instead, we're stuck with Bell, Telus and Rogers.

[Rambo4]

..., you are also taking profit for the Canadian Government mainly through taxes...

Oh for shame! My hands wring at the very thought.

[alanbrenton]

Blackmajik, real FTA is fine. Those signals are not encrypted. And you forgot to mention that US carriers have a lot of content that "they" (the CRTC) don't want you to see.

Dish and DTV used to be grey market in Canada if you payed for them, black market if not. They are now black market completely. Blame the CRTC and the Canadian TV industry for that. (Coincidently, the same people who want to, and probably will, impose the TV tax.)

Syne, that's the excuse the pirates used to use.

I'm interested in Dish too. When you mention it is now completely black market, what does that exactly mean? Sorry been cable-free for ages but would like Dish for its Mandarin programming.

Thanks.

[sandyriver]

i know of a friend who bought a dish reciever from radioshack across the border and activated it with the serial number below the reciever. when call dish all they ask is the number below the reciever and the programming want to subscribe. You need to give a US addy and phone number along with a credit card number for them to charge you every mth. Get it back to canada plug it in and watch ur progmg. don't plug it into the phone line thats all.
I don't think dish network cares as long as they get money.

[alanbrenton]

i know of a friend who bought a dish reciever from radioshack across the border and activated it with the serial number below the reciever. when call dish all they ask is the number below the reciever and the programming want to subscribe. You need to give a US addy and phone number along with a credit card number for them to charge you every mth. Get it back to canada plug it in and watch ur progmg. don't plug it into the phone line thats all.
I don't think dish network cares as long as they get money.

Thanks Sandy. So I need a US addy, phone and credit card to subscribe? All those I currently don't have. :( Any way to circumvent that without troubling a relative in the US? :)

Some sellers on Kijiji Toronto have purported that he can group Canadians together to pay the monthly bill. Even at $150 which is the most elaborate programming plan, he said 8 people will only be paying about $20 each. I really want the Mandarin programming to immerse my daughter in the language.

I don't want to descramble the signals every time one's FTA receiver gets zapped and am willing to pay the fees for the Mandarin programming.

[sandyriver]

Alan, if you trust the kijiji person, you can go ahead , it sounds like an ok deal for the moment till the FTA's get back up to the game again. Till last yr I was in the same state as you , i had no one in the uS , now since i have my sis there, it makes things a little easy for me.

I don't know of anything else, sorry. let me know how the kijiji deal works out for you.

PS - the phone and addy needs to be US one but the credit card can be yours which u use here.

[alanbrenton]

Alan, if you trust the kijiji person, you can go ahead , it sounds like an ok deal for the moment till the FTA's get back up to the game again. Till last yr I was in the same state as you , i had no one in the uS , now since i have my sis there, it makes things a little easy for me.

I don't know of anything else, sorry. let me know how the kijiji deal works out for you.

PS - the phone and addy needs to be US one but the credit card can be yours which u use here.

Thanks for your response Sandy. When you say FTA, is this the one wherein you pick up free satellite programming or this one wherein you have to crack the satellite code and from the time to time get zapped by the provider? For now, getting legit dishes is the way to go? I admit I'm a newbie as I have never subscribed to satellite or owned a FTA.

[Huskred]

Getting a lot of helpful information from this thread, which I appreciate.

I have a question: can a HD satellite dish (Dish Pro Plus 1000) that was used for FTA reception be used if a person got a Dishnet subscription?

I would assume that the dish would have to be replaced for a DirecTV sub.

Thanks for any advice you may offer on this.

[zulu888]

how hard is it to point the dish for dish network?

[Kuurgen]

Getting a lot of helpful information from this thread, which I appreciate.

I have a question: can a HD satellite dish (Dish Pro Plus 1000) that was used for FTA reception be used if a person got a Dishnet subscription?

I would assume that the dish would have to be replaced for a DirecTV sub.

Thanks for any advice you may offer on this.

dishnet and direct tv use the same type of lnb so you should be fine.


how hard is it to point the dish for dish network?

not hard :)



Some sellers on Kijiji Toronto have purported that he can group Canadians together to pay the monthly bill. Even at $150 which is the most elaborate programming plan, he said 8 people will only be paying about $20 each. I really want the Mandarin programming to immerse my daughter in the language.

I don't want to descramble the signals every time one's FTA receiver gets zapped and am willing to pay the fees for the Mandarin programming.


Just to clarify, you're sharing a subscribers card and I'm guessing he's going to be the server which guarantees him a monthly revenue.

This is considered illegal, and moreover unless the server is located overseas
you can be tracked by ip.

You may wish to explore setting up your own card server, but IMHO
seems like a PITA.

I would also bet he's going to have way way more than 8 people connecting. :P

[Huskred]

Thanks, Kuurgen, for your good advice on the sat dish.:)