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Silverthorn
Nov 2nd, 2009, 11:33 PM
Hello,

A petition has recently been created against Amway

http://www.petitiononline.com/amway

I know there are countless testimonials about this company dating back decades and I'm not aware if there are any other petitions out there.

But as there are many blogs and posts online, maybe we can have a petition as well.

It's brand new so if anyone who has been a victim, know someone that has been a victim, or wants to help create awareness about pyramid schemes such as those of Amway, please sign the petition at the link above.

Steve Butterfield's "Amway: The Cult of Free Enterprise" and the most recent release of Merchants of Deception are fantastic books that depict the truth about the company.

Please sign and help. I apologize greatly if a similar thread/post has been created.

45ED
Nov 2nd, 2009, 11:41 PM
From the Petition mission statement:

This petition is created to hopefully stop the pyramid scheme that is Amway/Quixtar.

So what we have here is a petition on a random website that neither the Federal Trade Comission nor Amway have a way of reaching. No one is sending it to them - it's a survey that is just sitting on the internet. It makes some blaise statement of intent, but nothing else to it's name - not a solution in sight. And it can count, amongst it's current signers, people like Lazy Man and Money and Tex Texan.

...and how is this petition suppose to be effective? The intent may be good, but the plan blows. I find it difficult to take seriously a poorly thought out petition by some 25 year old person out in BC (yes, Canadian) writing to an American entity. Folks, if you write it, they will not necessarily come.

Silverthorn
Nov 3rd, 2009, 12:11 AM
Good point, but it's just a way to create more awareness.

Here is a petition that a friend of mine created about a pyramid scam called Vector 7 years ago. It's also kinda poorly written

http://www.petitiononline.com/vector

It has 12,000+ signatures now and if you read many of them, it says that the petition helped them from making a huge mistake.

If you build it, THEY WILL COME, it's that simple.

ullyeus
Nov 3rd, 2009, 12:55 AM
Good point, but it's just a way to create more awareness.

Here is a petition that a friend of mine created about a pyramid scam called Vector 7 years ago. It's also kinda poorly written

http://www.petitiononline.com/vector

It has 12,000+ signatures now and if you read many of them, it says that the petition helped them from making a huge mistake.

If you build it, THEY WILL COME, it's that simple.

No its not...online petitions do ****.

brunes
Nov 3rd, 2009, 06:32 AM
I don't know anyone who would fall for such a pyramid scheme.

IMO buyer beware, I don't know why they make these things illegal anyway. People wanna be fools with their money, let them. "A fool and his money are soon parted" - they are going to lose it one way or another.

The only reason the government makes pyramid schemes illegal and not the lotto, is they don't get a big enough cut of the pyramid schemes.

mart242
Nov 3rd, 2009, 09:22 AM
How about we provide some common sense to people? If it sounds too good to be true, it must be.

alkaseltzer01
Nov 3rd, 2009, 10:31 AM
Sign the petition and you'll probably end up on Amway's marketing list.

45ED
Nov 3rd, 2009, 04:57 PM
Good point, but it's just a way to create more awareness.

Here is a petition that a friend of mine created about a pyramid scam called Vector 7 years ago. It's also kinda poorly written

http://www.petitiononline.com/vector

It has 12,000+ signatures now and if you read many of them, it says that the petition helped them from making a huge mistake.

If you build it, THEY WILL COME, it's that simple.

There is a difference between people coming to/signing the petition, and having actual change happen as a result of the petition.

Yes, twelve thousand plus signatures (not individuals, as I suspect there are a number of folks who have signed more than once) indicates people are indeed learning about the petition.

But the intent behind said petition isn't to get people to visit it, now is it? Rather, isn't the intent that Vector petition the same as your Amway petition, which is to stop them? Vector is still around, so the petition on that end did squat sh*t.

Most of these petition want things to stop, but it's such a passive means of protest, signing some petition. Actual change comes as a result of actually doing *something*; something that goes beyond a lil' clickity-clack of the keyboard. Do folks really think that the FTC and Amway will happen upon the petition by some random chance?

BornRuff
Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:38 PM
Do folks really think that the FTC and Amway will happen upon the petition by some random chance?

Even if they did, they are not going to decide to shut down because a petition says so.