BATMAN BEGINS (NEW) - Movie (First look)

[ZeeTX]

BATMAN BEGINS (NEW) - Movie (Tentative June.2005 Release)
Unofficial name of the movie - "BATMAN : BEGINS" - (Strange..!)
I personally, not a BATMAN fan but anyway here's the NEWS

http://www.2and2.net/Priv/new_batman.jpg

[sfu_lifer]

I'm kinda glad they're doing a makeover after the HORRIBLE series-killing camp Batman that Clooney did in the last one. Ugh.
I hope it's as serious as the first one that Keaton did with whacko Jacko as Joker.

[pennysaver]

Please ... please be as good as the first one but I think the Joker made the movie. Keaton was pretty good.

[Carnage]

This could end up being pretty good, simply because expectations will be low.

Kind of like Terminator 3. I thought it was going to be crap, but was pleasantly surprised that it was a decent movie.

[felix]

How come they always get a different actor to play the role of Batman each time? Is the job that bad?

[chatbox]

I like Bale. Haven't seen many movies of his, but of the ones I've seen (American Psycho & Equilibrium), he seems pretty well suited for the role of Batman.

[1st timer]

I like Bale. Haven't seen many movies of his, but of the ones I've seen (American Psycho & Equilibrium), he seems pretty well suited for the role of Batman.
Rent an underated Steven Spielburg film "Empire of the Sun" if you haven't seen it. In it you'll see the main character, a small boy played by an named Bale! (Yes the same guy!). Don't bother with Shaft where he plays a 'heavy'.


How come they always get a different actor to play the role of Batman each time? Is the job that bad?

I think in Keaton's case, once Burton was off the project so was he. Either that or the change in directors wanted to use a different actor in the role.

As for the movie, I hope they are true to their word and make this one simliar to Frank Miller's vision of Batman not that crap of the last picture. This series was gone steadily downward. Keaton was pretty good; Kilmer was passible; Clooney well let's just say I seemed to picture the character he played in the Rosanne TV series - Booker! :lol:

[Hanniganite]

This movie looks very promising because of not only Bale but the supporting cast:

Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, Katie Holmes, Liam Neeson, Gary Oldman, Ken Watanabe, Tom Wilkinson. Also Christopher Nolan (Memento, Insomnia) is the director :cool:

[Carnage]

Rent an underated Steven Spielburg film "Empire of the Sun" if you haven't seen it. In it you'll see the main character, a small boy played by an named Bale! (Yes the same guy!). Don't bother with Shaft where he plays a 'heavy'.
:

I never knew that kid was Bale. I watched that movie back in OAC english class. Pretty decent flick.

[S...]

More new pics here as well:
http://batmanbegins.warnerbros.com/batphoto.html

S.

[Feneant]

He has an awesome chin for batman, look at the first picture in the thread, that is the right look for batman, it says 'don't **** with me punk'.

[Kurtz7834]

I think this franchise has already been stretched way past its limit. However, superhero movies are all the rage and making money, so another one is being rolled out.

Not counting the animated ones, I believe this will be the 6th Batman movie, correct?

I won't be seeing it, as I doubt it will offer anything new or interesting. I did enjoy the Burton movies though.

[Hanniganite]

Not counting the animated ones, I believe this will be the 6th Batman movie, correct?



6? Are you counting the 60's one? And another one I'm unaware of?
There's Batman/Batman Returns (Keaton), Batman Forever (Kilmer), Batman and Robin (Clooney)......?

[ullyeus]

I remember seeing this first look like a month ago.

[dealforme]

I'm glad they're going back to the Dark Knight look rather than the comic/60's version in the last two. Have you seen the new Batmobile? Looks like a Hummer on steriods, I think I missed the last conversation about it and just took a quick look at the WB site and holy s*.

http://members.shaw.ca/dealforme/5BAS0030.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/dealforme/5BAS0004.jpg

[Ojam]

Keaton dropped out because he didn't want to be type casted. The director is taking this in a whole new direction, its is suposed to be from the biggining. (thats why the name)

[Mentos]

http://members.shaw.ca/dealforme/5BAS0030.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/dealforme/5BAS0004.jpg

Wow, that looks like ass... like something ripped from Mad Max. Why'd you need something like that for the streets of Gotham?

As for the series, the Burton movies were pretty good... if he did Forever, it would've been the same old same old. That's why I liked the more comic book feel of Forever ( good cast too ). B&R was just one big joke though... ugh.

[Prince]

I wanna know more about the car. Can someone plz dig up some info about it, what HP, engine etc about it? ahhhh, the car looks unique, doesn't look like that can be used for high speed chase ... 'cuz look at the freakin weight of this ...acceleration would sx on it...
Maybe its for special purpose by Batman?

[Kurtz7834]

6? Are you counting the 60's one? And another one I'm unaware of?
There's Batman/Batman Returns (Keaton), Batman Forever (Kilmer), Batman and Robin (Clooney)......?

Yeah, the first five include the 60s one and the other four you mentioned. So this new movie will be the sixth live action film.

[Headhunter]

Check out the toys (http://legionsofgotham.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=news&action=display&num=1103780628).

[bluetroll]

it looks really good.... i mean.... who the hell wanted val kilmer and/or george clooney as batman???

Michael Keaton WILL BE the best batman.... always....

and Joker was the best character in those movies....

[sixer]

Christian Bale will be awesome in this movie. He rocked in Equilibrium!!!!! That movie is the biggest sleeper of all time :)

[bfg_16]

This movie looks very promising because of not only Bale but the supporting cast:

Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, Katie Holmes, Liam Neeson, Gary Oldman, Ken Watanabe, Tom Wilkinson. Also Christopher Nolan (Memento, Insomnia) is the director :cool:

damn...that's a pretty big supporting cast....
hopefully this movie will be nice and "dark" just like the first one (which was the BEST batman)

[Rometiklan]

Holy crap. That is an excellent supporting cast. I'm a fan of Freeman, and Oldman. The likes of Watanabe, Neeson, and Caine are no slouches either. When that many quality actors sign on to do a project, there has to be something of substance to it...we hope.

[cheukiecfu]

from the very beginning, I thought this would be a great movie...
the teaser trailer was great, the overall "look and feel" was so "BATMAN"!!!
the posters and the casts, i liked them up until they released the latest trailer
i loved the theme "overcoming the fear inside" and with scarecrow as the villan...fine choice...
but i don't see a connection between all these "samurai" stuffs with the dark knight- batman... why are they linking japanese stuffs with our gotham city batman??
think about it... how bad will it be if they put some chinese kung fu element into the spiderman movie..
the reason why these hero movies are successful is because they stick to their original idea/theme
anyway, all these samurai training in the batman trailer just reminds me of the upcoming movie Elektra.. which also contains lots of samurai element... I personally thinks Elektra will be bad, it's just like another version of Catwoman

now, my most anticipated movie has kinda shifted from batman to SW3, HP4, and KingKong...

hahahah

[joshmxpx]

from the very beginning, I thought this would be a great movie...
the teaser trailer was great, the overall "look and feel" was so "BATMAN"!!!
the posters and the casts, i liked them up until they released the latest trailer
i loved the theme "overcoming the fear inside" and with scarecrow as the villan...fine choice...
but i don't see a connection between all these "samurai" stuffs with the dark knight- batman... why are they linking japanese stuffs with our gotham city batman??
think about it... how bad will it be if they put some chinese kung fu element into the spiderman movie..
the reason why these hero movies are successful is because they stick to their original idea/theme
anyway, all these samurai training in the batman trailer just reminds me of the upcoming movie Elektra.. which also contains lots of samurai element... I personally thinks Elektra will be bad, it's just like another version of Catwoman

now, my most anticipated movie has kinda shifted from batman to SW3, HP4, and KingKong...

hahahah

what's hp4?

[The_One]

what's hp4?

I'm guessing Harry Potter 4?

[cheukiecfu]

yup
harry potter 4

[a3000]

but i don't see a connection between all these "samurai" stuffs with the dark knight- batman... why are they linking japanese stuffs with our gotham city batman??


Bruce Wayne does study martial arts in Japan after his parents' murder..

[Montague]

anyway, all these samurai training in the batman trailer just reminds me of the upcoming movie Elektra.. which also contains lots of samurai element... I personally thinks Elektra will be bad, it's just like another version of Catwoman
guess you never read any Miller daredevil comics. ;)

that IS how Elektra got some of her training.

by the ninjas known as the hand.

ANY movie WITHOUT Ben Afleck is a plus! :lol:

never got around to reading Millers Dark Knight stuff but I suspect their was an element of the Japanese martial arts based upon his work on the short series Wolverine comic book in the early eighties.

and this rendition of Batman is at least supposed to be partially influenced by Miller Dark Knight series.

[Spare-Flair]

http://www.score.fr/images/EDITO-28.jpg

[cheukiecfu]

Bruce Wayne does study martial arts in Japan after his parents' murder..

oh... really? i never knew that... (guess i don't know batman that well after all)
hahhaaa, this makes me feel better toward the movie.. hope it'll be great

[Tulsytsan]

6? Are you counting the 60's one? And another one I'm unaware of?
There's Batman/Batman Returns (Keaton), Batman Forever (Kilmer), Batman and Robin (Clooney)......?

Didn't clooney do two Batman movies? I could swear he did...

[cheukiecfu]

nope, i think batman and robins is the last one...
sb correct me if i am wrong

[Majinvegeta]

i think Batman 1 and Batman Returns were the koolest :D

But Joker was awesome, so id say Batman the movie was the best. This one seems ok...but i dunno, i dont think its gunna turn out that great :S. And i liked the one with riddler, it wasnt that bad ^^

[stealth]

Funny, I thought Clooney did 2 as well.

I always wondered who the 2 or 3 people were that actually liked Keaton as Batman. I couldnt imagine a less athletic, less believable superhero character. Well, maybe Paul Reubens :)
Remember, Batman had no super powers or super strength. He was just a fictional rich guy with a bad attitude to criminals and fondness for young men. A 5'8" 150lb middle age white guy, just didnt seem all that tough to me.
In all fairness, Kilmer had the "brooding" quality down, but couldnt live up to the hero part, and Clooney, well I dont know what they were thinking. I guess he had the rich guy part down, but that was about it.

[prof_frink]

I saw the batman begins trailer last weekend in front of Ocean's 12 (which is a great movie BTW) - anyway - this movie looks really really good, I'm quite surprised actually.

Anything to remove that awful taste from those Shumacher pieces of crap - I refuse to watch ANYTHING this guy touches - including his TV shows...

[Headhunter]

New pics (http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_city_central/gotham_globe/article/2005/01/16012005_3.html).

[joshmxpx]

New pics (http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_city_central/gotham_globe/article/2005/01/16012005_3.html).

what's with all the guys in the medieval armour, is this a new direction in the batman story?

[Headhunter]

http://img184.exs.cx/img184/9187/batmanbegins1sheet8lw.jpg


what's with all the guys in the medieval armour, is this a new direction in the batman story?
New for the movies, not for the comics.

Edit: Hosted the image elsewhere, it's back up.

[joshmxpx]

i think Batman 1 and Batman Returns were the koolest :D

But Joker was awesome, so id say Batman the movie was the best. This one seems ok...but i dunno, i dont think its gunna turn out that great :S. And i liked the one with riddler, it wasnt that bad ^^

the first two were the best, because they were directed by one of the greatest directors of all time, tim burton (my personal fave)

[cheukiecfu]

they have just updated the site... a lot more new pictures...

[deep]

Bale = good jawline + eyes too close together + way too much pink lipstick.

[StarStrike]

Here the link to the TV Spot
http://www.moviewallpapers.net/module.php?section=batman

and here is the International Poster
http://www2.warnerbros.com/batmanbegins/images/poster/bb_international.jpg

[cheukiecfu]

another poster... i like the last one better...
http://superherohype.com/images/begins4.jpg

[rai_dei]

Bale = good jawline + eyes too close together + way too much pink lipstick.
Hmm yeah i noticed that too... Movie goes in a new direction... 'Batman comes out of the closet' :D

[lead]

Bale = good jawline + eyes too close together + way too much pink lipstick.

Lol did't get what you meant till I saw this shot. http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_city_central/gotham_globe/pics/batman1.jpg

[coastal_neophyte]

There's one in Black and White, I believe...

CN


6? Are you counting the 60's one? And another one I'm unaware of?
There's Batman/Batman Returns (Keaton), Batman Forever (Kilmer), Batman and Robin (Clooney)......?

[ZeeTX]

Here's a NEW **Exclusive Trailer** (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1500723/04252005/story.jhtml#) of the Movie - BATMAN BEGINS..

[Montague]

the first two were the best, because they were directed by one of the greatest directors of all time, tim burton (my personal fave)
Batman returns=overrated.

[cheukiecfu]

Here's a NEW **Exclusive Trailer** (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1500723/04252005/story.jhtml#) of the Movie - BATMAN BEGINS..this trailer is so good!!!!
oh well.. hope it won't end up like one of those daredevil flicks...

[StarStrike]

WOW, That was an awesome trailer. They showed batman's human side really well. After Kingdom of Heaven and Star Wars Episode III :cheesygri , this might be the next movie to carry on the title of "Summer Blockbuster".

[cheukiecfu]

WOW, That was an awesome trailer. They showed batman's human side really well. After Kingdom of Heaven and Star Wars Episode III :cheesygri , this might be the next movie to carry on the title of "Summer Blockbuster".
they have just updated the trailer.... it's in full-length now.... 2:20... even better!!!
the link is the same as above...

[Ojam]

Since MTV hates Firefox, I can't view the trailer so I don't know if this is the same one, but here the new QT trailer from apple.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/batman_begins/trailer4/large.html

[b166er1337]

Since MTV hates Firefox, I can't view the trailer so I don't know if this is the same one, but here the new QT trailer from apple.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/batman_begins/trailer4/large.html

direct download

medium version (21mg): http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/batman_begins/batman_begins-tlr4a_m480.mov

large version (40mg):
http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/batman_begins/batman_begins-tlr4a_ifs.mov


enjoy!

[Headhunter]

New trailer is the best one yet, I can't wait to see this!

The Scarecrow costume is pretty horrible, though.

[Ojam]

New trailer is the best one yet, I can't wait to see this!

The Scarecrow costume is pretty horrible, though.

was it just me, or was there like bugs or something moving all over his face?

nm, it was just his potato bag flowing in the wind.

[nfnx]

i think you guys are giving it too much hype... batman doesnt have a lot to work with besides the fact its a comic ...

other than that its ur typical good guy bad guy flick

[nfnx]

just checked out the trailor... and i have to admit it looks pretty cool

katie holmes is in it? jokes... shes not hot enough.
and that batmobile is UGGGGLLY

[S...]

just checked out the trailor... and i have to admit it looks pretty cool

katie holmes is in it? jokes... shes not hot enough.
and that batmobile is UGGGGLLY

I think it looks cool as well. But Katie Holmes as the love interest is ridiculous in my opinion...

S.

[Headhunter]

was it just me, or was there like bugs or something moving all over his face?

nm, it was just his potato bag flowing in the wind.
Aw crap, I thought they were bugs too (leeches? maggots?), and that it was a CG effect. Will have to watch again to be sure.


I think it looks cool as well. But Katie Holmes as the love interest is ridiculous in my opinion...
I thought it was weird, but she fits the part (based on the trailer). Long as she doesn't turn into Batgirl or anything, it's fine.

[joshmxpx]

Since MTV hates Firefox, I can't view the trailer so I don't know if this is the same one, but here the new QT trailer from apple.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/batman_begins/trailer4/large.html


thanks, i hate that ie only crap. this looks better and better every day! i didn't know katie holmes was in it, that just makes it even better!

[sfu_lifer]

Why shouldn't Katie be an eligible love interest?
She's 26 now and banging Tom Cruise.

[nfnx]

Why shouldn't Katie be an eligible love interest?
She's 26 now and banging Tom Cruise.


who says tom cruise would f her?
dude that guy can get any women, why settle for k holmes?
man something is wrong with her face... i think they should have used someone a bit more mature and sophisticated

[Headhunter]

Batman in QuickTime at 1080i resolution and 150MB, right here (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/hdgallery/batmanbegins.html)!

[StarStrike]

Batman in QuickTime at 1080i resolution and 150MB, right here (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/hdgallery/batmanbegins.html)!

Thanks a bunch Headhunter :)

[Headhunter]

Crap, can anyone actually watch it? It hassles me about a missing codec...

The site says that QuickTime 7 is required, but it's only out for Macs so far...BOO! HISS!

[xpoint9]

a wallpaper of cool batman logo

Batman:
http://images.deviantart.com/i/3/1/d/Batman.jpg

[ZeeTX]

Managed to get hold of the HD-Trailer: :twisted:
Get the 'MPlayer' or any other player that can play H.264 encoded files & watch the HD-trailer. Why wait for QuickTime 7 ... ;)

Batman Begins (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/hdgallery/batmanbegins.html)
High Definition Trailer - 115 MB (http://images.apple.com/movies/us/hd_gallery/gl1800/batman_begins_m720p.mov) (Save Target as..)

Enjoy.. :cool:

[StarStrike]

Managed to get hold of the HD-Trailer: :twisted:
Get the 'MPlayer' or any other player that can play H.264 encoded files & watch the HD-trailer. Why wait for QuickTime 7 ... ;)

Batman Begins (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/hdgallery/batmanbegins.html)
High Definition Trailer - 115 MB (http://images.apple.com/movies/us/hd_gallery/gl1800/batman_begins_m720p.mov) (Save Target as..)

Enjoy.. :cool:

Thanks man, good work! :cheesygri

[StarStrike]

Here's the new International Trailer

International Trailer (Right Click and Save As) (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbol/uk/movies/batman_begins/F4/batman_begins_tlrf4_qt_500.mov)

[Headhunter]

Not bad, isn't as cool as the latest one on this side of the pond.

In all of the trailers, we see very little (if any) of the villains...

[ZeeTX]

According to the British Board of Film Classification (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/c2fb077ba3f9b33980256b4f002da32c/516499d75599ac1f80256fff0055fbc6?OpenDocument), "Batman Begins" has a running time of 139 minutes, 55 seconds (2 hours, 20 minutes.) The film has also been rated 12A in the UK for "strong fantasy horror and moderate violence."

WoW..! That's a long runtime.
Hopefully it is has an interesting storyline to keep the audience content and avoiding child's play - Episode III :lol:

[ZeeTX]

Batman Begins Manhattan Promo Pics (Covering an entire block!)

http://img220.echo.cx/img220/669/bbmanhattan19xw.jpg

http://img220.echo.cx/img220/9544/bbmanhattan21yf.jpg

Now that's what I call Promotion.. :twisted:

[StarStrike]

Yup, that's the New York I know. Those posters are in Manhattan, I believe. The reason they are so big is because the buildings there are so friggin high. In fact, they're so high that you can't even see the sun. :eek:

[ZeeTX]

Here's a new screenshot from the movie.. :)

http://img163.echo.cx/img163/1779/battrain3pg.jpg

[joshmxpx]

Yup, that's the New York I know. Those posters are in Manhattan, I believe. The reason they are so big is because the buildings there are so friggin high. In fact, they're so high that you can't even see the sun. :eek:

the building those posters are on doesn't look more than 3 stories...

[Headhunter]

Too bad we can't buy those posters once the studio's done with them, and surround our house with it.

I mean...

[akito925]

How come they always get a different actor to play the role of Batman each time? Is the job that bad?

well if your stuck in a huge rubber suit, with limited bathroom breaks, long work hours.. sweat the death in the hot summer heat, even in air conditioning would you complain??

[StarStrike]

well if your stuck in a huge rubber suit, with limited bathroom breaks, long work hours.. sweat the death in the hot summer heat, even in air conditioning would you complain??

But when you see the paycheck, all is forgotten :lol:

[StarStrike]

Here's the new International TV Spot

http://www.mymovies.net/player/player.asp?url=/film/fid4056/trailers/trid1743/wm/bb.asx&filmid=4056&sec=

[ZeeTX]

Here's the NEW TV Spot Trailer (http://media.themoviebox.net/movies/batmanbegins/TVSpot6/)
And a couple of new stills from the movie HERE (http://superherohype.com/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Batman/The_Movie/Movie_Stills)

[joshmxpx]

Here's the NEW TV Spot Trailer (http://media.themoviebox.net/movies/batmanbegins/TVSpot6/)
And a couple of new stills from the movie HERE (http://superherohype.com/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Batman/The_Movie/Movie_Stills)


that was a good trailer

[StarStrike]

Here's the Warner Bros. Preview
Warner Bros. Preview (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/batmanbegins/teaser_clip/teaser_clip_hi.mov)

[Buggy166]

i saw the 10 minute preview after the season ending episode for smallville

i like it..probably one of the few movies worth going to this summer.

[StarStrike]

55 new Batman pics have been added; if you want to see them, go to comingsoon.net

Here's the direct link
http://www.comingsoon.net/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Action/Batman_Begins

[StarStrike]

Batman Begins is rated PG in BC for Violence and Frightening scenes. It has a runtime of 141 minutes.

[Montague]

Anyone here see the fan film "Batman: Dead End"?

Well here is an actual review of the movie "Batman Begins" from the writing/director of the fan film:

http://www.buzzscope.com/features.php?id=985

Dun worry there are no real "spoilers" in the review except maybe to those who have no knowledge whatsoever of Batman.

[Headhunter]

Anyone here see the fan film "Batman: Dead End"?
Yeah, it's fun but overrated.

[StarStrike]

If anyone hasn't seen the 10 minute preview of Batman Begins and would like to, please say so. If at least 5-6 people want to see it, i'll upload it for you guys.

[NLI10D]

he still looks very thin (from that movie machinist or whatever) compared to how he looked in equilibrium.

[webdoctors]

do you need to have watched the previous Batman movies? cause I only saw 1 and 3 of the Batman movies, the other ones seem too dumb.

[Spare-Flair]

do you need to have watched the previous Batman movies? cause I only saw 1 and 3 of the Batman movies, the other ones seem too dumb.

It has nothing to do with the other movies, it's a totally separate movie in a new universe, they are trying to distance themselves from how stupid and untrue to the comics and just generally bad films the last 2 were.

[Spare-Flair]

he still looks very thin (from that movie machinist or whatever) compared to how he looked in equilibrium.

Haha, nothing compares to how much muscle tone he had in American Psycho.

[Montague]

he still looks very thin (from that movie machinist or whatever) compared to how he looked in equilibrium.
Once he has the suit on it really does not matter.

I mean look at the Michael Keaton performance.

He sure dun have the classic Batman "build"/"look" but he managed to pull it off.

He probably took a few years out of his life though losing MEGA pounds for the move "The Machinist" and then packing the pounds back on for "Batman Begins".


It has nothing to do with the other movies, it's a totally separate movie in a new universe, they are trying to distance themselves from how stupid and untrue to the comics and just generally bad films the last 2 were.
Batman Forever was "average" and thus probably underated.

Batman and Robin was not just generally bad but REALLY craptacular! :lol:

[StarStrike]

How many of you guys are going to watch Batman Begins in IMAX? I know I will.

[Bordello]

How many of you guys are going to watch Batman Begins in IMAX? I know I will.

Wow, that would be awesome. Too bad the only IMAX close to me plays only documentaries (the theatre is located in a museum).

[Headhunter]

How many of you guys are going to watch Batman Begins in IMAX? I know I will.
Oh hell yes! It's the only way to fly; it's pretty hard for me to watch movies on regular screens, after having taken the luxury ride.

[StarStrike]

Oh hell yes! It's the only way to fly; it's pretty hard for me to watch movies on regular screens, after having taken the luxury ride.

I'll make sure to catch it on IMAX then. Just a question, are there huge lineups for the IMAX screenings or are they normal? Do I have to go super early to watch it in IMAX or can I go at my regular time?

[ZeeTX]

Here's the Latest TV Spot # 10 (http://media.themoviebox.net/movies/batmanbegins/TVSpot10/) of the movie - BATMAN BEGINS..

[ZeeTX]

BATMAN BEGINS Primiere at Tokyo, Japan.
http://www.hellomagazine.com/film/2005/05/30/katieholmes/imgs/katie-dop2a.jpg
From left: director Christopher Nolan, Christian Bale, Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, Ken Watanabe, Katie Holmes and producer Charles Roven

[StarStrike]

BATMAN BEGINS Primiere at Tokyo, Japan.
http://www.hellomagazine.com/film/2005/05/30/katieholmes/imgs/katie-dop2a.jpg
From left: director Christopher Nolan, Christian Bale, Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, Ken Watanabe, Katie Holmes and producer Charles Roven

Here's a video of the Japan premiere with 20 minutes of Batman's Background score. The score is amazing, I'm probably going to buy it when it comes out.

http://www.so-net.ne.jp/movie/batmanbegins/

[Headhunter]

I'll make sure to catch it on IMAX then. Just a question, are there huge lineups for the IMAX screenings or are they normal? Do I have to go super early to watch it in IMAX or can I go at my regular time?
I've only gone to 2 for theatrical movies, within the first week or two of the movie being on IMAX. Those 2 times, I pretty much had half the theatre to myself; there couldn't have been more than 10-20 people in the entire place.

I have no idea how they make money... :)

[ZeeTX]

Here's the "BATMOBILE - THE TUMBLER" (http://www.moviewallpapers.net/module.php?section=tumbler) in action.. :)

[Montague]

Saw this in another forum.

How about this actor playing the Joker in the sequal to Batman Begins?

http://www.villainousvamps.com/crispinjoker.jpg

Crispin Glover!

Yeah I know it is not gonna happen. :(

[biosh]

How many of you guys are going to watch Batman Begins in IMAX? I know I will.
Gotta go IMAX if it's within striking range of your house (ie: <100 miles) - the IMAX DMR process creates a true IMAX verion of the film, not like when they show regular films in the IMAX theatre. The sound system alone is worth the extra three bucks! (BigMovieZone.com (http://www.bigmoviezone.com/filmsearch/movies/coming_soon.html?uniq=444) has lots of news, trailers, etc. on both IMAX DMR movies, plus the regular IMAX documentaries.)

...and Headhunter is right - the IMAX theatres are often half empty - most people are uneducated when it comes to quality theatrical film presentation - they might as well stay home and wait for the DVD and watch it on their old 12" B&W TV...

(Although, this new Batman movie seems to have pretty good buzz going for it - I imagine all theatres are going to be pretty busy the first week or two...)


Also - I find it interesting how the Batman story seems to have a regular periodic cycle of 20 years:

1940's : Movie Serials
1960's : TV Show
1980's : Movies
2000's : IMAX Movies

I wonder what the 2020's will bring? Batman: The Immersive Experience?!?

[Spare-Flair]

WTF
http://www.imax.com/calgary/

"After almost 11 years in Calgary, the IMAX Theatre at Eau Claire Market will be closing its doors forever on July 18, 2004.
We would like to thank everyone for their patronage and support over the years. We hope that we have provided Calgarians with the true IMAX experience by providing fun, insightful and larger than life films for your viewing entertainment.

We are sad to see the experience end. It was our pleasure serving you Calgary."

So I missed it by like a year. Well, that location had horrible business, nobody ever went for like the past decade and it was run down and filthy.

Where do I go now for Batman? Are the Famous Players Paramount Theatres also IMAX or is it smaller?

http://www.famousplayers.com/theatres/fp_theatre_details.asp?theatre=B06E2720-FF84-45D4-A63B-75030AB830B6

It says there are two shows:
Batman Begins Also In Limited RW®C & DVS® (No Passes)

Batman Begins: The IMAX Experience® (No Passes)

Which is the right one?

[biosh]

WTF
Where do I go now for Batman? Are the Famous Players Paramount Theatres also IMAX or is it smaller?

http://www.famousplayers.com/theatres/fp_theatre_details.asp?theatre=B06E2720-FF84-45D4-A63B-75030AB830B6

It says there are two shows:
Batman Begins Also In Limited RW®C & DVS® (No Passes)

Batman Begins: The IMAX Experience® (No Passes)

Which is the right one?
The IMAX Experience® at Famous Players is the real thing- the screens and sound are awesome...

The RWC & DVS are services for blind and deaf people:

Famous Players is pleased to announce Rear Window Captioning® and Descriptive Video Service® at select theatres. Select films at each of these locations will be offered with Rear Window Captioning® for Deaf and Hard of Hearing Guests using portable, transparent acrylic panels that fit right in your drink cup holder. DVS Theatrical® (descriptive narration service for Blind and Visually Impaired) is broadcast to your seat via headphones and will also be available for select films at the same locations.

[ZeeTX]

Here's a video of the Japan premiere with 20 minutes of Batman's Background score. The score is amazing, I'm probably going to buy it when it comes out.

http://img296.echo.cx/img296/9889/bbcdcover1zk.jpg

http://img296.echo.cx/img296/7044/bbcdback6po.jpg

[StarStrike]

Futureshop is giving away free passes to an IMAX screening of Batman Begins. They'll be giving em away on Saturday 10am at a few select stores. There's more info in this thread
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/showthread.php?t=168041

[StarStrike]

I just came back from an advance screening of Batman Begins and I have to say....................IT WAS FRICKIN AWESOME! Out of 10, I'd give it a 15. This is probably the best superhero movie ever. It blows all the other Batman movies out of the water. It even tops Superman 1 and 2 and Spider-man 1 and 2. I'm going to watch it again in Imax when it comes out. This movie is definately worth a watch.

[Grayson M]

i thought the movie was good, it was slow moving at the beginning but ended with a blast!

[StarStrike]

Just a reminder that this movie opens tomorrow.

[b166er1337]

Noooo....no time to watch it tomorrow, or this weekend :cry:

[Montague]

So anybody wish to guess how much this film will rake in its opening or will it be affected still by the stench of "Batman & Robin"?

60 million?

> 80 million?

< 50 million?

Not much competition for it so it SHOULD do well.

Hope I can wait until the weekend to watch it!

[Grayson M]

any of the people who went to the pre screening in different theatres than vancouver, were you all frisked throughly and checked for recording devices?

[StarStrike]

any of the people who went to the pre screening in different theatres than vancouver, were you all frisked throughly and checked for recording devices?

It's the same in All cities. Warner Brothers is especially strict on this. People said that they did the same for House of Wax.

[Montague]

It's the same in All cities. Warner Brothers is especially strict on this. People said that they did the same for House of Wax.
I read somewhere they went after someone for taking PICTURES during a movie! :lol:

I mean really.

[StarStrike]

I read somewhere they went after someone for taking PICTURES during a movie! :lol:

I mean really.

That's cuz it's against the law, there's a $75000 fine no questions asked, so people should refrain from doing stupid things.

As for Batman Begins' box-office, It's an awesome movie, so I wouldn't be surprised if it made 100 million + in 5 days. It surely deserves it.

[StarStrike]

I wonder if the soundtrack is available in stores? It's one of the few soundtracks good enough to buy.

[Montague]

I wonder if the soundtrack is available in stores? It's one of the few soundtracks good enough to buy.
http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009IW88A/qid=1118808055/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_0/702-1351443-8857651

I would guess you could find it cheaper elsewhere but at least you know it is available to buy right now.

[Headhunter]

Gotta go IMAX if it's within striking range of your house (ie: <100 miles) - the IMAX DMR process creates a true IMAX verion of the film, not like when they show regular films in the IMAX theatre. The sound system alone is worth the extra three bucks! (BigMovieZone.com (http://www.bigmoviezone.com/filmsearch/movies/coming_soon.html?uniq=444) has lots of news, trailers, etc. on both IMAX DMR movies, plus the regular IMAX documentaries.)
Frankly, it's worth double the price. Fortunately for me, IMAX is exactly the same price as regular fare at the Paramount Toronto. :)


...and Headhunter is right - the IMAX theatres are often half empty - most people are uneducated when it comes to quality theatrical film presentation - they might as well stay home and wait for the DVD and watch it on their old 12" B&W TV...
Yeah, people don't appreciate quality...from my experience, most of the people in the theatres tend to be young kids or their parents.

[tkl]

I just came back from an advance screening of Batman Begins and I have to say....................IT WAS FRICKIN AWESOME! Out of 10, I'd give it a 15. This is probably the best superhero movie ever. It blows all the other Batman movies out of the water. It even tops Superman 1 and 2 and Spider-man 1 and 2. I'm going to watch it again in Imax when it comes out. This movie is definately worth a watch.

Noooooo ! Don't say that. Now my expectations are waaayy high. I can't imagine it being better the Spiderman 2, which I though was the bet superhero movie that I've seen so far. Grammaton Cleric Preston , I mean, Christian Bales looks good in the clips. Lining up on the weekend.

[sleepyguy]

LoL! I'm gonna go see it tonight! Awesome!


Noooooo ! Don't say that. Now my expectations are waaayy high. I can't imagine it being better the Spiderman 2, which I though was the bet superhero movie that I've seen so far. Grammaton Cleric Preston , I mean, Christian Bales looks good in the clips. Lining up on the weekend.

[StarStrike]

Noooooo ! Don't say that. Now my expectations are waaayy high. I can't imagine it being better the Spiderman 2, which I though was the bet superhero movie that I've seen so far. Grammaton Cleric Preston , I mean, Christian Bales looks good in the clips. Lining up on the weekend.

Spider-man 2 was my favourite superhero movie before Batman Begins, but now it's my second favourite. Keep your expectations at the level they previously were; that way you can be even more surprised.

[Mr. Robo]

I just came back from watching Batman Begins at Paramount.

This movie is as real as a batman movie should be.

Spoiler!!!
The only thing I didn't like is when he revealed his identity to Katie Holmes. There's no such thing as "secret identity" anymore.

[Mr. Robo]

Spider-man 2 was my favourite superhero movie before Batman Begins, but now it's my second favourite. Keep your expectations at the level they previously were; that way you can be even more surprised.

I wouldn't put this movie above Spiderman 2 cause SP 2, we actually saw the conflict within Peter and the interaction between superhero and villian was better chemistry.

But Batman Begins is better than all the other Batman movies (even Tim Burton's).

[StarStrike]

I just came back from watching Batman Begins at Paramount.

This movie is as real as a batman movie should be.

The only thing I didn't like is............ [/COLOR].

You should put spoiler warnings because someone might not want to know that. Other than that, glad to know you liked the movie :)

[ryanj]

I just came back from watching Batman Begins at Paramount.

This movie is as real as a batman movie should be.

The only thing I didn't like is when he ....

thanks for spoiling the movie for the rest of us. :mad:

[Montague]

I wouldn't put this movie above Spiderman 2 cause SP 2, we actually saw the conflict within Peter
Thought the first half of the Batman movie was ALL about this?

[StarStrike]

Thought the first half of the Batman movie was ALL about this?

It was/is. That's the main focus of the movie in the first half and they did an excellent job at showing us his internal conflict.

[Mr. Robo]

You should put spoiler warnings because someone might not want to know that. Other than that, glad to know you liked the movie :)

I'm just as much as a Batman fan as I am with Star Wars.
I've got tons of Batman comic books.

[b166er1337]

Caught the midnight screening of it in IMAX..WOW

It's as good as Spidey 2, and the most enjoyable movie viewing experience of 2005 to me. The first hour is all about Bruce Wayne where as second half is mostly about Batman. The finale is pretty intense too...
and my favorite quote:

Gordon: "i don't get a chance to say thank you"
Batman: "and you don't have to"

:lol:

thank you Nolan, Bale and everyone else in it...Can't wait for a couple more sequels. :D

[rai_dei]

Just caught the morning showing, and ... wow.
You gotta see it, its much better than the other Batman movies, not very close to the comics, but very well done nontheless, the Scarecrow is awesome too.
I was waiting for him to say "I'm Batman!" for half the movie, and I wasn't disappointed :cheesygri

If they redo the other sequels in the same style, I'd watch them for sure.

[StarStrike]

Caught the midnight screening of it in IMAX..WOW

It's as good as Spidey 2, and the most enjoyable movie viewing experience of 2005 to me. The first hour is all about Bruce Wayne where as second half is mostly about Batman. The finale is pretty intense too...
and my favorite quote:

Gordon: "i don't get a chance to say thank you"
Batman: "and you don't have to"

:lol:

thank you Nolan, Bale and everyone else in it...Can't wait for a couple more sequels. :D

How was the IMAX experience? I'm gonna catch this movie again, but in IMAX this time :cheesygri .

PS. Did anyone else think that the Batman Begins background score was wicked?

[jerryhussain]

I wish I could watch it tonight but I cant. Oh well I've to wait till Friday. :|

[b166er1337]

How was the IMAX experience? I'm gonna catch this movie again, but in IMAX this time :cheesygri .

PS. Did anyone else think that the Batman Begins background score was wicked?

If you are going to see it in IMAX, arrive early and sit at the back. The shaky-cam fighting scenes at the beginning between Bruce Wayne and other inmates made me dizzy :(
Other than that, IMAX is very cool. Oh, and i absuoltely loved the ninja training scenes. It's just so...awesome :lol:

[S...]

I just got back from seeing it. I lowered my expectations because of all the hype and reviews etc. But it blew me away, one of the best movies I have ever seen, it kills the other Batman movies in my opinion. I would watch this over Spider-man 2 anyday...

S.

[Headhunter]

Hit the Paramount Toronto IMAX, and...wow. I had REALLY HIGH expectations.

They were blown away. This is far and away the best superhero/comic movie I've ever seen, and a top 10 movie all-time for me. The characterizations of Batman, Alfred, Ra's Al Ghul, Scarecrow, James Gordon, and everyone else was rock solid. All of the plot, characters and even technology evolved naturally in the most believable and credible fashion that Batman has ever had. Absolutely beautiful movie, in every respect; the ending has me absolutely hungering for the sequel (everyone who saw it, knows what I mean).

IMAX is so far ahead of regular theatre, that I can only put it this way; watching on IMAX to a regular theatre is what a regular theatre is to a handheld cam rip in a foreign language, copied to VHS and shown on a damaged 13" CRT made by Daewoo that you got used from a Cash Converters during a rainstorm.

It's not even close. GO TO IMAX!!!


You gotta see it, its much better than the other Batman movies, not very close to the comics, but very well done nontheless, the Scarecrow is awesome too.
Actually, it's pretty close to the comics; other than Rachel Dawes (and one other character, who I can't discuss without massive spoilers), they're identical to the seminal Batman graphic novels.


Don't want to hype u up too much, but everyone in my theatre was clapping at the end for a full minute. It's definately one of the best movies in a while. If you like superhero movies, you'll really enjoy this movie and even if you don't like superhero movies, you'll still enjoy the movie.
Clapping at the one I went to too! I went to the 3:20 show, which was almost full when the movie got started.

I bought the soundtrack, gonna pop it in later tonight. I checked about a half dozen stores around the theatre; if anyone's going there and wants to buy it after, the only one that has copies left is the HMV a block away (the one absolutely gutting Sam the Record Man into bankruptcy, a bit outside Eaton Centre).

Next step, hitting Wal-Mart and buying the Batmobile with whatever's left of my tax refund! :) I heard the game's pretty good too (shades of Prince of Persia).

[SleepyGSR]

Did anyone notice the glaringly inconsistent results from the 'weapon'? For me, that ruined one aspect of this movie.

[Nitram]

I really loved it! I think that by far it is the best superhero movies!

I like the way that the story unfolds, it isnt always chronological which makes you wonder sometimes and then they explain it and you go "OOoooohhh". :cheesygri

Other than that, I love the dark and gothic aspect of the movie.

I also have to mention something and this is a spoiler for someone who never saw any of the Batman, if you saw at least one of the Batman movies then don't worry about spoilers:

(highlight)
I have a lot of respect for the creator who didn't destroy the basics of the Wayne's death scene which was first portrayed by Tim Burton. In Batmans Begins, he goes into more detail, but the fact that he left the pearl necklace was a sign of respect for the original Batman.

btw did anyone notice that Ra's Al Ghul is also a criminal mastermind in the Usual Suspects??

[D-Sisive]

Did anyone notice the glaringly inconsistent results from the 'weapon'? For me, that ruined one aspect of this movie.


yea if you are saying what i think you are saying i found that stupid too

h2o >>> highlight humans are full of water...yet they are ok around the weapon

[SleepyGSR]

yea if you are saying what i think you are saying i found that stupid too

That's what I'm saying.

[Headhunter]

btw did anyone notice that Ra's Al Ghul is also a criminal mastermind in the Usual Suspects??
Huh...?

[b166er1337]

btw did anyone notice that Ra's Al Ghul is also a criminal mastermind in the Usual Suspects??


isn't the villain's name Kaiser Sosey or something like that?

[Nitram]

isn't the villain's name Kaiser Sosey or something like that?

You know what? It is!! lol

Now im wondering...where did I hear this name before?

[Headhunter]

Now im wondering...where did I hear this name before?
If it's Ra's Al Ghul, you probably watched the animated Batman series.

If it's Keyzer Soze, I think it's only in The Usual Suspects.

[Mr. Robo]

If you are going to see it in IMAX, arrive early and sit at the back. The shaky-cam fighting scenes at the beginning between Bruce Wayne and other inmates made me dizzy :(
Other than that, IMAX is very cool. Oh, and i absuoltely loved the ninja training scenes. It's just so...awesome :lol:

I've never noticed the difference when I watch a movie on IMAX or regular.

[Montague]

Now im wondering...where did I hear this name before?
It has been a while since I read Batman but I got a bunch of 1970s Batman comic from a garage sale a number of years ago and remembed that this character seemed to pop up occasinally.

Perhaps that is where you heard it from?

OK cause of lack of time I have not seen the movie yet but I have read many reviews trying to skip over "spoilers".

Most were positive and any negative ones tended to focus on the second half being much weaker cause the director lacks the ability to do action scenes well.

How did you guys find the second half?

PS Please dun mention any "spoilers". :cheesygri

[DVST8]

Just saw the movie last nite...and I can honestly say that THIS movie is like a breath of fresh air to the Batman series. It's pretty good overall, but not perfect. But definetely worth seeing regardless if you're a Batman fan or not. Im pretty sure that Batman will be the Spiderman of DC...more so than Dc's Superman, Im still kinda iffy on that one.

[atb1o1]

It has been a while since I read Batman but I got a bunch of 1970s Batman comic from a garage sale a number of years ago and remembed that this character seemed to pop up occasinally.

Perhaps that is where you heard it from?

OK cause of lack of time I have not seen the movie yet but I have read many reviews trying to skip over "spoilers".

Most were positive and any negative ones tended to focus on the second half being much weaker cause the director lacks the ability to do action scenes well.

How did you guys find the second half?

PS Please dun mention any "spoilers". :cheesygri

Yes I agree with you that the second half is weak. Don't get me wrong, I think this is the best Batman movie out of all the series! The first half was amazingly well done, I like the way they showed why Bruce is in the middle of no where and how he got to the training. Bale does a really good job as Bruce Wayne but I think he is a bit weak as Batman. I like the anger he showed as Batman but the "lowering" and "rasping" of this voice is ridiculously fake..hahaa I dunno just sounds funny to me.

Scarecrow is casted and portayed really really well in this movie, I got to say this is the best played villian in any of the Batman series.

Its nice that end the movie with a very obvious hint for a sequel, which I for one can't wait for if its directed by the same director.

[Headhunter]

My only problem with the action scenes were all the quick cuts, which were entirely unnecessary; Christian Bale has proved that he can do extended sequences in Equilibrium, and I'm sure the studio did/could have hired performers/stuntmen who were also likewise capable.

It does hurt the movie quite a bit, in that aspect...which is a shame, because the action looks like it's choreographed quite well. It's just difficult to make it out...


I've never noticed the difference when I watch a movie on IMAX or regular.
:eek:

[Think]

It's a great movie and to tell you the truth. I never noticed the difference between the IMAX and the regular as well. As a matter of fact, the sound in theater 3 at Colossus was louder then that of the IMAX!.

I bought a ticket to see it in the IMAX and the camera system failed after sometime. We were given a free ticket and were transferred to theater 3 to watch it at no charge.

[Suresh]

GOING TO SEE IT TONIGHT :D
In Imax of course


SPOILER QUESTION

Is the rumour true about Superman being in it??!


END SPOILER

[DVST8]

GOING TO SEE IT TONIGHT :D
In Imax of course


SPOILER QUESTION

Is the rumour true about Superman being in it??!


END SPOILER

Spoiler Answer...


No he's not in it.

[cheukiecfu]

oh man...
after seeing all the good reviews... I WANT TO WATCH THIS MOVIE...
even rotten tomatoes (one of the picky internet critics) has 81%!!!

>:( but i still have 4 more midterms to deal with.. >:(

[Talamasca]

I saw it tonight and it was really good. Very dark and serious yet still dealt with the setting in a serious manner, unlike the ultra-gothic quality of the first two films and the absurd comic sensibility of the last two movies. Gotham City looked like a real city with some scenes even filmed in (gasp!) daylight.

Christian Bale was great, especially as Bruce Wayne. Excellent supporting cast too. Cilian Murphy (28 Days Later) as The Scarecrow was particularly good. He has a really interesting-looking face. Nice setup for the inevitable followup movie too.

[konfusion666]

OMG WTF BEST BATMAN MOVIE EVAR!!!111



Ok, seriously now, it was indeed the best Batman movie of the 4 (5?) and definitely the best movie I've seen this year (have not seen SW3 yet).

I agree that the first half of the movie was AWESOME but I still think the second half was -- while certainly more "traditional" and in the vein of the other Batman flicks -- still very very good.

I was impressed that they managed to use that "Bat-Tank" so well. It looked so cheesy at the Eaton centre.

One complaint is that they didn't use Katie Holmes that well, but I suppose she was just there for decoration?

9/10

[spike-spiegel]

Yes I agree with you that the second half is weak. Don't get me wrong, I think this is the best Batman movie out of all the series! The first half was amazingly well done, I like the way they showed why Bruce is in the middle of no where and how he got to the training. Bale does a really good job as Bruce Wayne but I think he is a bit weak as Batman. I like the anger he showed as Batman but the "lowering" and "rasping" of this voice is ridiculously fake..hahaa I dunno just sounds funny to me.

Scarecrow is casted and portayed really really well in this movie, I got to say this is the best played villian in any of the Batman series.

Its nice that end the movie with a very obvious hint for a sequel, which I for one can't wait for if its directed by the same director.


Ya that lowering of his voice was a bit too much for me. But all Batman actors changed their voice as Batman but Bale sounded funny.

[Rometiklan]

What an incredible movie! Saw it tonight and it kicked some major ass. This movie has single-handedly redeemed and resurrected a dead Batman franchise. I was in a mild state of euphoria as I was watching this movie. There was a brief obligatory "Batman overlooking Gotham City" scene, where the camera did a flyby of Batman standing atop of a building, and I had to bite my tongue to keep myself from yelling out, "Oooh YEAH!!"

Awesome ensemble cast: Christian Bale, Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, Rutger Hauer, Gary Oldman, Katie Holmes, Michael Caine...amazing. Bale was an excellent choice to play Batman, and he puts Clooney and Kilmer to shame. Bale's portrayal is much closer to the Batman I had always envisioned in a live action movie. Keaton was good and he came awfully close, with all due respect to Adam West, but Keaton never had the physique to sell it completely, IMO. Since it was already depicted by Burton, I had some reservations about seeing the origins of Batman yet again, but it was handled very well, with Nolan's own spin on it. The training scenes defined a new dimension of Batman's origins that I had never explored before in the comics.

As Headhunter mentioned, the fight scenes were cut very quickly, with very exteme close-ups so it was difficult to tell who was punching whom. The movie is extremely loud. I saw it at the Paramount, downtown Vancouver, and it felt like mild tremors were shaking the floor during some scenes (not necessarily a bad thing). Nolan did a fantastic job depicting the Caped Crusader. I can only hope the sequel will come quickly. I highly recommend this movie to anyone who wants to take in a fun summer blockbuster.

[StarStrike]

What an incredible movie! Saw it tonight and it kicked some major ass. This movie has single-handedly redeemed and resurrected a dead Batman franchise. I was in a mild state of euphoria as I was watching this movie. There was a brief obligatory "Batman overlooking Gotham City" scene, where the camera did a flyby of Batman standing atop of a building, and I had to bite my tongue to keep myself from yelling out, "Oooh YEAH!!"

Awesome ensemble cast: Christian Bale, Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, Rutger Hauer, Gary Oldman, Katie Holmes, Michael Caine...amazing. Bale was an excellent choice to play Batman, and he puts Clooney and Kilmer to shame. Bale's portrayal is much closer to the Batman I had always envisioned in a live action movie. Keaton was good and he came awfully close, with all due respect to Adam West, but Keaton never had the physique to sell it completely, IMO. Since it was already depicted by Burton, I had some reservations about seeing the origins of Batman yet again, but it was handled very well, with Nolan's own spin on it. The training scenes defined a new dimension of Batman's origins that I had never explored before in the comics.

As Headhunter mentioned, the fight scenes were cut very quickly, with very exteme close-ups so it was difficult to tell who was punching whom. The movie is extremely loud. I saw it at the Paramount, downtown Vancouver, and it felt like mild tremors were shaking the floor during some scenes (not necessarily a bad thing). Nolan did a fantastic job depicting the Caped Crusader. I can only hope the sequel will come quickly. I highly recommend this movie to anyone who wants to take in a fun summer blockbuster.

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll release a Director's Cut in the future. As for watching movies at the Paramount. That theatre is the best and it's one of the busiest theatres in Canada (according to the manager). The good thing about the Paramount is that there aren't many annoying teens (almost none), so you can actually enjoy a movie.

[Headhunter]

The good thing about the Paramount is that there aren't many annoying teens (almost none), so you can actually enjoy a movie.
Always a huge plus; I've pretty much given up on watching anything that isn't rated R in the theatres, can't deal with all the distractions.

[konfusion666]

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll release a Director's Cut in the future. As for watching movies at the Paramount. That theatre is the best and it's one of the busiest theatres in Canada (according to the manager). The good thing about the Paramount is that there aren't many annoying teens (almost none), so you can actually enjoy a movie.

I saw it at the Coliseum last night. I was expecting there to be a lot of loud annoying teens. While there were a lot of teens, they were all pretty much quiet for the most part. Like the Paramount crowd.

[Fantaz]

I saw it at the Coliseum last night. I was expecting there to be a lot of loud annoying teens. While there were a lot of teens, they were all pretty much quiet for the most part. Like the Paramount crowd.


Yeah, I also went to Coliseum yesterday afternoon and the theatre was empty. Pretty good movie too.

[GateGuardian]

Even if there was noisy teens, I think the audio system would cover it up. I found this movie louder than other movies for some reason. I mean, I didn't feel the tremor when I was watching star wars in the same threatre.

[Montague]

Even if there was noisy teens, I think the audio system would cover it up.
I disagree.

You did NOT have a bunch of stupid teenagers yaking REAL LOUD throughout Star Wars EP3 at a "Silvercity" movie I was at awhle back.

[Headhunter]

Even if there was noisy teens, I think the audio system would cover it up. I found this movie louder than other movies for some reason. I mean, I didn't feel the tremor when I was watching star wars in the same threatre.
Geez, really? Guess I got really sensitive hearing; I could make out somone quietly eating popcorn 10 seats away, and it still bothered me. Not their fault, as they were trying to be polite about it, but I pick up these things...

[StarStrike]

Geez, really? Guess I got really sensitive hearing; I could make out somone quietly eating popcorn 10 seats away, and it still bothered me. Not their fault, as they were trying to be polite about it, but I pick up these things...

I'm just like you, I can hear people drinking pop, munching on popcorn and eating tacos 10 seats away. I try to drown it out by not paying attention but sometimes it's really hard. Now I know how Daredevil felt :lol: :lol:

PS. I saw the movie again on Thursday, but in IMAX. It was an awesome experience :cheesygri The sound and picture quality was amazing. I've never seen a movie twice in theatres, but I saw Batman Begins twice because I loved it. I also saw Episode III twice :razz:

[IVNP]

Kinda OT, a friend of mine down in US said IMAX has a running time limit being only 2hr and when the movies are longer, they get edited to fit. Is that true?

[StarStrike]

Kinda OT, a friend of mine down in US said IMAX has a running time limit being only 2hr and when the movies are longer, they get edited to fit. Is that true?

No Batman Begins was the full 2 hours and 20 minutes, no cuts whatsoever. The two hour limit was on the old platter system. They've now developed a new platter than can hold a 2 hour and 30 minute film, so to answer your question again, yes it's the full version of the film.

[Rometiklan]

A couple of things I forgot to comment on in my initial post.

In addition to an already amazing cast, Murphy did a great job playing Dr. Jonathan Crane and Scarecrow. I never liked the Scarecrow. I always thought he was one of the lamer villians in Batman's rogue gallery. When I heard he would be in Batman Begins, my expectations for a great movie were a little deflated. But the character turned out to be one of the better aspects of the movie, and provided some great visuals whenever he used his powers.

I also enjoyed Gary Oldman's role as Gordon. I'm glad Nolan took some time to show the relationship Batman had with Gordan, something that was always prevalent in the comics, but mostly ignored in the movies.

I love the way Gotham City was brought to life. It had a real dichotomy about it. The pristine side where the Wayne Enterprise building was the center of it all, and then there was the seedy ghetto side which was amazingly depicted, and lent itself to the dark gritty nature of the movie. Gotham was almost a reflection of Bruce Wayne/Batman himself. The modelwork must have been painstaking. The attention to detail to Gotham added an integral dimension to the movie. I hope they have some worthy featurettes on the DVD about the visuals.

[StarStrike]

A couple of things I forgot to comment on in my initial post.

In addition to an already amazing cast, Murphy did a great job playing Dr. Jonathan Crane and Scarecrow. I never liked the Scarecrow. I always thought he was one of the lamer villians in Batman's rogue gallery. When I heard he would be in Batman Begins, my expectations for a great movie were a little deflated. But the character turned out to be one of the better aspects of the movie, and provided some great visuals whenever he used his powers.

I also enjoyed Gary Oldman's role as Gordon. I'm glad Nolan took some time to show the relationship Batman had with Gordan, something that was always prevalent in the comics, but mostly ignored in the movies.

I love the way Gotham City was brought to life. It had a real dichotomy about it. The pristine side where the Wayne Enterprise building was the center of it all, and then there was the seedy ghetto side which was amazingly depicted, and lent itself to the dark gritty side. Gotham was almost a reflection of Bruce Wayne/Batman himself. The model work must have been painstaking. The attention to detail to bring Gotham to life added an integral dimension to the movie. I hope they have some worthy featurettes on the DVD about bringing Gotham City to life.

I have a feeling we'll have a jampacked two disc set when it comes out on dvd. I hope Nolan releases a director' cut around the same time. That would be awesome.

[jerryhussain]

Batman Begins will be one of the first movies that will be released on HD-DVD ;)

[Montague]

In spite of great critical reviews seems this movie is not doing all that well at the box office.

A "meagre" estimated $15 million Friday with a probable $60-$70 million 5 day opening unless things significantly pick up Saturday and Sunday.

Guess the stench of "Batman and Robin" is keeping a number of viewers away.

I do believe this film does have to ability to at least sustain itself thru word of mouth though.

If not I strongly suspect the NEXT Batman movie will NOT have Nolan at the helm but Singer.

Yep I predict a Batman vs Superman type movie if the box office numbers continue this way.

Too bad really cause I think Nolan did a great job on the film but the "bean counters" will prevail.

[Spent]

Yeh very favorable reviews, but doesn't seem to be as much buzz about this.

:confused:

[Spent]

Batman Begins will be one of the first movies that will be released on HD-DVD

So most movies are going to be released in HD from now on? :confused:

I wondered about that... I saw a Samsung HD DVD player for $200 at FS
I wonder if that means they're going to start releasing all the movies
I have already in HD,
sorry Homey don't play dat game, any more.

:mad: (http://entertainment.iafrica.com/tv/archives/4957.htm) Click on face for enlightenment :evil:


Unless they're less than $10 and that's be the day when Harper is PM :lol:

More likely the HD DVDs will be an option for like >$30 each :evil:

[Headhunter]

I'm just like you, I can hear people drinking pop, munching on popcorn and eating tacos 10 seats away. I try to drown it out by not paying attention but sometimes it's really hard. Now I know how Daredevil felt :lol: :lol:
What I really hate are the stupid statements or conversations; I don't have a problem with "Wow!" and "Hey, remember that from (whatever source)", but I hate when people start loudly bellowing "THAT'S SO GAY!!!" and the like. I'd like to have ushers in every theatre, who use their flashlights as nightsticks to "weed out" that element. :twisted:


PS. I saw the movie again on Thursday, but in IMAX. It was an awesome experience :cheesygri The sound and picture quality was amazing. I've never seen a movie twice in theatres, but I saw Batman Begins twice because I loved it. I also saw Episode III twice :razz:
I love the laser show at the beginning, and how they keep bragging about the sheer size of IMAX: EACH FRAME OF FILM IS TEN TIMES THE SIZE! REEL TO REEL, REACHES TO THE MOON! SCREEN IS 5 HOUSES HIGH!

The house one makes me laugh; they show 5 houses stacked on top, then show how big you would be...and a little girl is 2/3rd the height of a house. What are these, Lego residences? :lol:

[runamuck]

batmobile bash with bale in toronto

http://entertainment.sympatico.msn.ca/celebs/articles/1210277.armx


lol..that sucks!

[b166er1337]

Kinda OT, a friend of mine down in US said IMAX has a running time limit being only 2hr and when the movies are longer, they get edited to fit. Is that true?

The old technology only allows IMAX presentation to be 2 hours long. For example, the theatrical cut of Apollo 13 is more than 2 hours long. When it's shown on IMAX, the studio cut it to under 2 hours. But i believe the new technology can play movies that aare longer than 2 hours.

[Chandler]

I wonder how drunk he was....hope it wasnt over the maximum!

[konfusion666]

So most movies are going to be released in HD from now on? :confused:

I wondered about that... I saw a Samsung HD DVD player for $200 at FS
I wonder if that means they're going to start releasing all the movies
I have already in HD,

The DVD is so entrenched in North American/European (even Asian!) homes now, it will be a long transition to the HD-DVD format.

Movie studios, being the money-grubbing bastuhds they are, will probably use this as a perfect excuse to release "Super Duper Extreme Ultra Extended Special" edition of various movie in HD-DVD format. Doesn't mean you have to buy it.

Also, I suspect that crappy movies that nobody cares about won't get the HD-DVD treatment for a long time... the studios will focus on "remastering" the popular/Oscar movies first.

[StarStrike]

In spite of great critical reviews seems this movie is not doing all that well at the box office.

A "meagre" estimated $15 million Friday with a probable $60-$70 million 5 day opening unless things significantly pick up Saturday and Sunday.

Guess the stench of "Batman and Robin" is keeping a number of viewers away.

I do believe this film does have to ability to at least sustain itself thru word of mouth though.

If not I strongly suspect the NEXT Batman movie will NOT have Nolan at the helm but Singer.

Yep I predict a Batman vs Superman type movie if the box office numbers continue this way.

Too bad really cause I think Nolan did a great job on the film but the "bean counters" will prevail.

I know, it's sad. The movie is so damn good, yet it's not raking in the dough it should. I have a feeling that by this weekend the word will spread and then everyone will come out to see in next week. I think it will pull a pirates of the caribbean and only drop 30% the next week.

[Montague]

I know, it's sad. The movie is so damn good, yet it's not raking in the dough it should. I have a feeling that by this weekend the word will spread and then everyone will come out to see in next week. I think it will pull a pirates of the caribbean and only drop 30% the next week.
Hope so since the fate of any sequels likely depends on how well this film does.

Maybe it will do better internationally and via DVD sales.

Low box office=no Joker/Batman Begins sequal

(spoiler hidden just after the "=") >:(

[jerryhussain]

A "meagre" estimated $15 million Friday with a probable $60-$70 million 5 day opening unless things significantly pick up Saturday and Sunday.
I wouldnt say $60-70 million opening is meagre as it falls exactly in line with the predictions.

[tkl]

......This is probably the best superhero movie ever. It blows all the other Batman movies out of the water. It even tops Superman 1 and 2 and Spider-man 1 and 2. .......

I just watched it at 4:00 pm, Silvercity Richmond Hill, 10 rows up, smack centre, nobody sitting beside either side of my better half and I. Theatre was a bit more than 1/3 full.

My 2 cents. - It was not the best comic/superhero type movie for me. That still belongs to SpiderMan 2. Batman begins, however, will be in # 2 spot on my list, followed by Spider Man 1 in 3rd spot.

Biggest complaint - The fight scenes. Not very well done. They're SHORT !!! They are all close up and tight angle/shots. Although you'll feel the intensity, you don't see the details like the SpiderMan / Doc Ock fight. Even "DareDevil" did better in this department. What's the point of fight choregraphy if you don't even get to see the overall flow. If you've ever watched the movie "Equilbrium", with Christian Bales, those type of fight scenes would kick ass in this movie.

Batmobile - Didn't like it at first when I saw the pics but it works well in this movie. I can't see the other Batmobiles from the other movies stand up to any of the punishment that this one took.

Katie Holmes - People complain about her but I think she's hot so I'm biased. I've watched her in Pieces of April so I think she can act. I don't find her out of place in this movie. roles. I think she's a better choice than Kirstin Dunst as Mary Jane in the SpiderMan movies. Everybody else did a good job in their respective. I also though the young kid who played Bruce Wayne did a GREAT job in his role.

In fairness - This is an intro movie after all. It starts from scratch. Plot was alright. Judging from that point of view, I though it was a better "first movie" than Xmen 1, SpiderMan 1 or Batman (with Keaton) as it took time to build up the characters. If you liked this director's work, check out Memento. Now that's a great "thinker's" movie.

:D

[Headhunter]

The DVD is so entrenched in North American/European (even Asian!) homes now, it will be a long transition to the HD-DVD format.
DVD offers a huge jump from VHS; video and audio quality, interactive menus, bonus features, DVD-ROM, etc...HD-DVD offers nothing except higher quality, at a much higher price and requiring new hardware. I hope it bombs...


Biggest complaint - The fight scenes. Not very well done. They're SHORT !!! They are all close up and tight angle/shots. Although you'll feel the intensity, you don't see the details like the SpiderMan / Doc Ock fight. Even "DareDevil" did better in this department. What's the point of fight choregraphy if you don't even get to see the overall flow. If you've ever watched the movie "Equilbrium", with Christian Bale, those type of fight scenes would kick ass in this movie.
The Spiderman/Daredevil fights were partially CG, so it's not a fair comparison.

That said, the cuts were too sudden...all of the main characters in combat situations have proven capable of extended action sequences before, so the fast cuts were puzzling.

[tinlunlau]

i'm disappointed to find out that iit was sold out for its Imax screening so i ended up watching the 35mm version. this film was hands down the most decent Batman film ever. for one thing, it's not campy. Christian Bale's performance as Bruce Wayne/Batman was convincing. even more so than Val Kilmer and George "Looney's" portrayal.

there was something about that actor who played Scarecrow. he was a very eery character and (highlight spoiler) i'm glad they didn't just kill him off like they'd do to villains in the past Batman films.

[manixc]

The movie is pretty good. I actually like the fight scenes. It's fast and to the point. The Batman isn't all about action, he's also about brains.

Bale is good as Batman. the voice change when he is Batman was good.

I feel that this movie is much closer to the comic than the old ones. It focuses more on how Batman fight the bad guys, which is fear.

The batmobile is an overkill and I thought the chase sequence was kinda lame.

There isn't enough Katie Holmes in the movie :cry:

one thing that I dislike the most is the microwave weapson. If it vaporizes water, people around should blow up (or something) as well since human body is made up of 70% water.

[MtX]

I saw it yesterday, and correct me if Im wrong but isn't your Ra's Al Ghul character the wrong person?

[Headhunter]

^ S-s-s-s-spoiler Alert! :!:

[Montague]

I wouldnt say $60-70 million opening is meagre as it falls exactly in line with the predictions.
For a film that cost MORE than Star Wars Ep 3 those kind of numbers will not inspire the movie studio to do a sequal.

I mean these are DAREDEVIL type numbers!

It is still early but it is not looking so good.

Darn shame cause the film IS quite good.

I am crossing my fingers in hoping this movie will be like Pirates of the Carribean and stay alive through the next several weeks thru "word of mouth".

Big problem is that there is a BIG TRAIN approaching and its name is "War of the Worlds"!

[konfusion666]

Big problem is that there is a BIG TRAIN approaching and its name is "War of the Worlds"!

from the trailer it looks like "just another disaster movie" albeit directed by Wunderkid.

[pauline9_2000]

saw the new batman movie yesterday... not only is it the best batman movie, but it is the best superhero movie to date.

batman begins was more dark, brooding, and more raw than other superhero movies.

also, michael caine rules! he is the best alfred and added a warmth to the character i haven't seen in any other batman film.

[JayPatel]

regardless of how good this movie may be, the last two atrocities are what ppl are going to remember and potentially judge this movie against.

[Montague]

regardless of how good this movie may be, the last two atrocities are what ppl are going to remember and potentially judge this movie against.
Ed Wood could have made a movie as bad/good as "Batman & Robin". ;)

[jerryhussain]

For a film that cost MORE than Star Wars Ep 3 those kind of numbers will not inspire the movie studio to do a sequal.

I mean these are DAREDEVIL type numbers!

It is still early but it is not looking so good.

Darn shame cause the film IS quite good.

I am crossing my fingers in hoping this movie will be like Pirates of the Carribean and stay alive through the next several weeks thru "word of mouth".

Big problem is that there is a BIG TRAIN approaching and its name is "War of the Worlds"!
Star Wars Ep3 is a bad movie to compare this to because it has a more than 30 years of foundation (fan following) going for it. If Lucas made the film with a budget of just $10 million, it would still have made $100 million plus grossing 10 times its budget.

One movie that is more fair to compare is Hulk, it more or less broke even (Batman Begins will be atleast 180-200% ROI which is still good) and yet has a sequel in the works. Batman will get a sequel, you can quote me on that. ;)

[Buggy166]

war of the worlds trailer is as gay as any...the only alien movie worth seeing to date is still only independence day...not to mention this is summer time..aka all the best movies duking it out.

if star wars ep3 were to be release NOW it would gross a lot less than it did thanks to some great or fun movies coming out.

[b166er1337]

war of the worlds trailer is as gay as any...the only alien movie worth seeing to date is still only independence day...not to mention this is summer time..aka all the best movies duking it out.



I guess you never see Alien, Aliens or Alien 3?
Or Predator?
Or ET?
Close Encounter of the Third Kind?

I will take these over Independence Day anyday. Don't get me wrong, Independence Day is fun, but it's not the best.

[konfusion666]

One movie that is more fair to compare is Hulk, it more or less broke even (Batman Begins will be atleast 180-200% ROI which is still good) and yet has a sequel in the works. Batman will get a sequel, you can quote me on that. ;)

Exactly.
Plus, The Hulk sucked so it has that working against it, while Batman Begins kicks every other 2005 movie's ass.

[Headhunter]

One movie that is more fair to compare is Hulk, it more or less broke even (Batman Begins will be atleast 180-200% ROI which is still good) and yet has a sequel in the works. Batman will get a sequel, you can quote me on that. ;)
Hulk 2 is going to bomb, I suspect...the first one was terrible, other than Jennifer Connelly.

[StarStrike]

Hulk 2 is going to bomb, I suspect...the first one was terrible, other than Jennifer Connelly.

that's the main reason I saw the first film. She's pretty damn good looking and she can act.

[ferkel]

I wanted to leave after 15mins. Why do they turn the temperature so cold in movie theatres. I think they turn the AC to 10'. Just another reason I've stopped going to the movie theatre. I always get some idiot who kicks my seat and they always have the sniffles. :mad:

[jerryhussain]

Exactly.
Plus, The Hulk sucked so it has that working against it, while Batman Begins kicks every other 2005 movie's ass.
100% Correct.


Hulk 2 is going to bomb, I suspect...the first one was terrible, other than Jennifer Connelly.
If Ang Lee's directing it, it will bomb.

[rai_dei]

Weekend gross for Batman Begins :) 113M worldwide so far...
http://www.comingsoon.net/boxoffice/2005/jun17.php


The five-day North American haul was the best start among the five films in the "Batman" franchise. The record of $66 million was held by the third film, 1995's Batman Forever, which starred Val Kilmer.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=10083

[Headhunter]

that's the main reason I saw the first film. She's pretty damn good looking and she can act.
I even watched flicks like Career Opportunities (http://imdb.com/title/tt0101545/) because of her...!


I wanted to leave after 15mins. Why do they turn the temperature so cold in movie theatres. I think they turn the AC to 10'. Just another reason I've stopped going to the movie theatre. I always get some idiot who kicks my seat and they always have the sniffles. :mad:
I love the temperature really cool, the rest does bug me though. I make it a point to go at really low traffic days/times whenever possible...


If Ang Lee's directing it, it will bomb.
Hey, that's not true! What about...you can't be including...and then there was...yeah, alright.

[guest10586]

100% Correct.


If Ang Lee's directing it, it will bomb.

No way, Ang Lee is good. The problem was the script flat out and simple. Hulk fights himself or the US Army? His dad didn't even make sense, so blame Stan Lee and the other marvel writer. How can you really associate with Hulk anyways? He is a green killing machine with no purpose.

[Rometiklan]

Puny humans always hounding Hulk!

[bluetroll]

I watched the movie last nite.... man i thought it was awesome.... minus that fact that Christian Bale's acting is really bad, it's almost as bad as Paul Walker... almost....

it was great how they told the story, i like the tarantino feel to it with all the flashbacks.... put together very well.... i never knew how Bruce Wayne was sooo rich, now after watching Batman Begins, it makes sense now.... he's a rich spoiled kid who can do whatever he wants with his money....

The Tumbler was a wicked vehicle.... dam... i'd take that baby over the batmobile anyday!

[jerryhussain]

Hey, that's not true! What about...you can't be including...and then there was...yeah, alright.


No way, Ang Lee is good. The problem was the script flat out and simple. Hulk fights himself or the US Army? His dad didn't even make sense, so blame Stan Lee and the other marvel writer. How can you really associate with Hulk anyways? He is a green killing machine with no purpose.
Ang Lee's earlier movie Crouching Tiger was also crap (IMO).

[thelefteyeguy]

finally a batman movie that I didnt have to bring wine too.

And yes this is the best comic book adaptation to date. Eventhough this storyline is very familiar to batman fans, the movie added many fresh new elements to the screen.

best bang for the movie buck this year to date.

(btw I do agree with the comment that the fighting scenes were a little poorly choreograph and filming the fighting scenes were less to be desired however this storyline was very very strong and really the hand to hand combat scenes were really unimportant to the large scheme of things)

Spiderman2's storyline was weaker than the first one and batman begins....it was a great popcorn flick...however batman begins is a great example of movie making.

[biosh]

This version of Batman was an okay movie - the best part was all the set-up and training, etc - when they got into the Gotham city modern day story, I felt it was flapping around going nowhere. I also didn't like the crazy close-up fighting direction - blech! And Katie Holmes is starting to freak me out - she used to be so cute - now there's something very creepy going on with her eyes. Christian Bale was okay as Batman, and I enjoyed all the supporting actors, except for Gary Oldman - oh how the mighty have fallen...

*** of *****

(This movie reminded me of Hulk - lots of hype, but a rather slow and heavy product in the end - I bet the box office $$$ are going to drop pretty fast for this movie...)

[Yukikaze]

Anyone know what happen to the original actor that played Alfred in the batman series?

[Rometiklan]

Anyone know what happen to the original actor that played Alfred in the batman series?

Michael Gough, who played Alfred in the Burton and Schumacher Batman movies, will appear in the upcoming Burton movie, Corpse Bride. Gough was born in Malaya (now Malaysia).

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001284/

[Montague]

(This movie reminded me of Hulk - lots of hype, but a rather slow and heavy product in the end - I bet the box office $$$ are going to drop pretty fast for this movie...)
I would not expect it cause there is NO competition for the film until "War of the Worlds" which comes out in NINE days.

Bewitched or Herbie?

Marketed at a difference audiance obviously.

ONLY movie that MAY compete with BB audiance is George Romeros "Land of the Dead".

Talking about too many Batman movies just how many zombie movies have we seen already within the past 12 months?

It WILL drop but perhaps not as much as you may think.

EXTREMELY ******** marketing aside Warner Brothers did not screw up when scheduling this movies release.

Wonder if the feces known as "Catwoman" had an effect on this movie as well? :?:

It came out not too long ago so it would still be on peoples minds.

[guest10586]

Ang Lee's earlier movie Crouching Tiger was also crap (IMO).

Name some of your favorite movies then...

[jerryhussain]

Name some of your favorite movies then...
You want to bash my fav movies ? :lol:

Its not just me, many many people believe that was crap of a movie. :cheesygri

[b166er1337]

Its not just me, many many people believe that was crap of a movie. :cheesygri

Yap, and all 5 of them think Crouching Tiger is the worst movie EVER~!!!! :D

[jerryhussain]

Yap, and all 5 of them think Crouching Tiger is the worst movie EVER~!!!! :D
Just do a search up on RFD and you'll be surprised.

As an example, a fellow RFD'er with the same sentiment:

Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon = CRAP

It's Kung Fu movie for westerner and the kung fu fighting part sucked too. None of the actor/actress in the movie has kung fu background.

Garbage
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/showthread.php?t=62221&page=3&pp=15



:lol:

Can we get back on topic now. :idea:

[b166er1337]

Just do a search up on RFD and you'll be surprised.

As an example, a fellow RFD'er with the same sentiment:
:lol:



IMDB disagrees with you : (top 105) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0190332/

So does rottentomatoes : (96% positive) http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/crouching_tiger_hidden_dragon/

[ryanj]

Batman Begins Sets New IMAX Record (http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=10092)


IMAX Corporation and Warner Bros. Pictures today announced that "Batman Begins: The IMAX Experience" debuted with record breaking box office results and outstanding moviegoer response this past weekend. The digitally re-mastered IMAX release of Batman Begins set the record for IMAX's biggest five day opening, with estimated domestic grosses of $3.16 million, as well as the highest grossing opening day for a Hollywood simultaneous release, at approximately $754,000.

3 million doesnt seem like much compared to the films weekend gross, but hopefully they take notice and more films will be shown in IMAX.

[jerryhussain]

IMDB disagrees with you : (top 105) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0190332/

So does rottentomatoes : (96% positive) http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/crouching_tiger_hidden_dragon/
IMDB, I think people who thought it was so crap that they didnt bother to rate it. :cheesygri

RT, Charlies Angels was 60%. :lol: ROTS got 80% odd rating yet was a slumber fest. Those RT ratings dont mean anything.

There are many people who didnt like that movie, its time you realised that.

[biosh]

IMDB disagrees with you : (top 105) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0190332/

So does rottentomatoes : (96% positive) http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/crouching_tiger_hidden_dragon/
This reminds me of my Mom's old rationale...

"If all your friends ran across a busy highway, does that mean you should too?"

RottenTomatoes be damned - it really is okay to have your own opinion, independent of the corporate media reviewers, who often have hidden agendas which include personal prejudices and studio payoffs...

[Montague]

A enough of the Crouching Tiger posts.

NO DANG WAY it is worse than Batman & Robin! :razz:

Assuming the sequel gets the green light how about THIS other possible candidate for playing the Joker!

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cinephemeride/images/IDENTITE/MICHAEL%20KEATON.jpg

Interesting choice eh?

Think Keaton could pull it off or even play Two Face!

Remember the wacko he played in Beetlejuice!

[MrDisco]

i saw it last night. i thought it was a good adaptation, almost better then burton's version. the first half is rather slow, but neccessary to develop the character and to explain the background.

loved:
-the batmobile (battank?) i thought it was incredibly stupid in the promo pics but it in the film it really shows its stuff (certaintly better and more realistic then the previous batmobiles)

-the 2 chicks who are sitting one top of the other in the bruce's euro sports car ;)

-katie holmes: the erect nipples at the end in the silver blouse. yeah that was only there to keep the guys interested :P

liked:
-the remaining cast: thought they all played their parts very well. the scarcrow was nicely done.

-the story: some elements reminded me of the No Man's Land story arc in the comics. the grittiness was almost up to Frank Miller's standards

meh:
-katie holmes. yeah she's attractive but she looks way too young for the part. if she were gordon's daughter i would believe it; playing the assistant DA..no way.

-the fight scenes: they just weren't that dynamic. a wider shot so we can see more of batman's ninja training would have been nice (i.e. using flash bombs, throwing bat symbols, etc)

-the story: after a great build up and quite a few scenes that portray the dark and *realistic* nature of gotham the use of a microwave emitter and the drug was a little campy for my taste. i would have liked something a bit less comical for a movie of this tone.

-the guy behind me: kept kicking my seat

-the guy down in front: kept turning his cellphone on. WHY????? the dumb ass was probably sending text messages. annoying as hell.

spoiler
i haven't the comics with Ra but wasn't he supposed to be asian? also isn't he an immortal?

[Headhunter]

^ About that, the first part is not true but the 2nd is.


3 million doesnt seem like much compared to the films weekend gross, but hopefully they take notice and more films will be shown in IMAX.
And release it the same day; I was pissed when I saw Spider-man 2, then the IMAX release was announced 2-3 days after.


RottenTomatoes be damned - it really is okay to have your own opinion, independent of the corporate media reviewers, who often have hidden agendas which include personal prejudices and studio payoffs...
Attention Thought Police, lock up this dangerous non-conformist!!


Assuming the sequel gets the green light how about THIS other possible candidate for playing the Joker!

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cinephemeride/images/IDENTITE/MICHAEL%20KEATON.jpg

Interesting choice eh?

Think Keaton could pull it off or even play Two Face!

Remember the wacko he played in Beetlejuice!
I gave it a lot of thought, he'd be the best choice along with Johnny Depp. I've read Edward Norton, but he'd be a better Riddler. Crispin Glover and the rest I've come across online are poor suggestions...

[konfusion666]

RottenTomatoes be damned - it really is okay to have your own opinion, independent of the corporate media reviewers, who often have hidden agendas which include personal prejudices and studio payoffs...

Of course, it's much easier to automatically "thumbs-down" any movie that is produced by a capitalist organization, and "thumbs-up" any movie that is produced by a poor, independent movie studio. Neo-marxism could never be easier, folks!

Anyways, I'm just kidding, don't add me to your ignore list (yet). :twisted:

[konfusion666]

I gave it a lot of thought, he'd be the best choice along with Johnny Depp. I've read Edward Norton, but he'd be a better Riddler. Crispin Glover and the rest I've come across online are poor suggestions...

Hmm, I'm going to have to pick John Malkovich... again. Hollywood hates him though, so that'll never happen.

BTW I thought the "millionaire playboy" scenes in BB were amusing - they reminded me of an earlier Christian Bale movie that no-one saw; American Psycho.

Patrick Bateman: Did you know that Ted Bundy's first dog was a collie named Lassie? [laughs]
Jean: Who's Ted Bundy?

[biosh]

Of course, it's much easier to automatically "thumbs-down" any movie that is produced by a capitalist organization, and "thumbs-up" any movie that is produced by a poor, independent movie studio. Neo-marxism could never be easier, folks!

Huh?

[konfusion666]

Huh?

I'm on crack, don't worry.

[b166er1337]

Joker candidates:

Clive Owen
Adrian Brody
Bruce Campbell
Tom Cruise

:D

[Yukikaze]

I hope that Bale will continue to play batman. He's indeed a very excellent character in the movie.

[Montague]

Read somewhere that when Katie Holmes was on Letterman he kinda "baited" her with a question:

"Would you rather watch Batman Begins or War of the Worlds?"

She evidently replied "I support my man".

Could she not have said "I would watch both films"?

So much for promoting YOUR film.

No wonder there are rumors flying around she will NOT be in the sequal.

Warner Bros probably loved that and at the Batman Begins movie premier when MOST of the focus was on Tom Cruise being there rather than the movie.

[ferkel]

am the only that thought it sucked? Punisher and DareDevil were better then this movie.

[Montague]

am the only that thought it sucked? Punisher and DareDevil were better then this movie.
ANY movie that does NOT have Ben Affleck in it wins by default! :lol:

One can say they did not like this movie but NO WAY was Daredevil better than this movie.

[StarStrike]

am the only that thought it sucked? Punisher and DareDevil were better then this movie.

In short, Yes.

PS. No way in Hell Daredevil or the Punisher were better than Batman Begins, but to each his own.

[rilhouse]

saw it last night. i'd say it was the best batman movie so far, but the original was not to far behind.

[b166er1337]

am the only that thought it sucked? Punisher and DareDevil were better then this movie.

Yes, you are the only one :lol: .

By the way, i recommend Catwoman and Elektra for you; these movies rock!

[Headhunter]

am the only that thought it sucked? Punisher and DareDevil were better then this movie.
Let me ask you, do you read the comics for either one? I suspect you don't, since the movie versions were really watered down and not exactly palatable for graphic novel fans (like me)...

[biosh]

am the only that thought it sucked? Punisher and DareDevil were better then this movie.
I wouldn't say Batman Begins sucks, but it was just okay. I certainly agree that Daredevil was definitely a better superhero movie, though I found Punisher too slow and diffuse....

[biosh]

Yes, you are the only one :lol: .

By the way, i recommend Catwoman and Elektra for you; these movies rock!
I also liked Catwoman - certainly under-rated and one of the few Halle Berry performances I liked. I think it had too much "girl power" for many insecure male viewers...

(Missed Elektra though - can't take that crummy TV actress.)

[b166er1337]

http://mars.walagata.com/w/emergencyexit/joker22fy.jpg

O. M. G

[StarStrike]

^^^ LOL, That's a bit too early for a poster. Nice fan rendition though ;)

[Headhunter]

I also liked Catwoman - certainly under-rated and one of the few Halle Berry performances I liked. I think it had too much "girl power" for many insecure male viewers...

(Missed Elektra though - can't take that crummy TV actress.)
You liked Catwoman, but don't like Jennifer Garner from Alias? Oh my... :confused:

[Headhunter]

Who's the guy in the Joker fanmade poster? And where is it from?

[StarStrike]

You liked Catwoman, but don't like Jennifer Garner from Alias? Oh my... :confused:

Those were my exact thoughts

[rilhouse]

one thing bugged me about this movie *SPOILER*:





the guy who killed batman's parents didn't do the "ever dance with the devil" speech and later he was killed. he's supposed to turn into the joker, what gives??

[Geologic]

Rumors around the net say that Katie Holmes is outta the next Batman movie (YAY). The whole TOMKAT thing seems to be annoying studio execs and when asked which movie she would rather see on Letterman, she said something in the lines of "I have to support my man".

Good news, never liked her as an actor as good as batman was. I think she'll be easily replaceable.

[StarStrike]

Rumors around the net say that Katie Holmes is outta the next Batman movie (YAY). The whole TOMKAT thing seems to be annoying studio execs and when asked which movie she would rather see on Letterman, she said something in the lines of "I have to support my man".

Good news, never liked her as an actor as good as batman was. I think she'll be easily replaceable.

I really don't think that's true. It seems highly unlikely that they would bring everyone back except her. It seems like just another baseless rumour.

[Montague]

one thing bugged me about this movie *SPOILER*:





the guy who killed batman's parents didn't do the "ever dance with the devil" speech and later he was killed. he's supposed to turn into the joker, what gives??
Nope that was ALL the idea of the director of the first two Batman films Tim Burton.

The Joker had nothing to do with the death of his parents.

Never happened in the comic books.

Nor was his name Jack Napier as depicted in the Burton films.

Batman Begins has nothing to do with the other four films so dun think of it as a traditional prequel like the second Star Wars trilogy.


Who's the guy in the Joker fanmade poster? And where is it from?
According to what I read on another board it is a photoshopped picture from an actual film in the 1930s.

The poster said it was supposed to have provided the inspiration for the Joker .

Dunno whether this is true or not.

[biosh]

You liked Catwoman, but don't like Jennifer Garner from Alias? Oh my... :confused:
Insightful comment...

[Yukikaze]

Katie homes in that movie was pointless. I'm glad she isn't in the next one. From what i learn, it's every movie that has to have an actress playing someone if it isn't even in the story.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/articles/2072.asp

Christian Bale (Batman) was the first to sign, followed by Michael Caine (Alfred), and Morgan Freeman (Lucius Fox).

A source also tells PageSix.com, "Everyone is in agreement that the movie's strength is with Christian Bale, Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman."

Then adding of Katie Holmes, "She won't be in the sequel... the next romantic interest will be a much stronger actress."

"Warner is happy that people are now focusing on who'll be playing the JOKER rather than Katie and Tom."

[Montague]

I also liked Catwoman - certainly under-rated and one of the few Halle Berry performances I liked. I think it had too much "girl power" for many insecure male viewers...
With a domestic box office take of $40 million I suspect women did not care for the movie either.

Think a good chunk of that $40 million was from males who do not mind seeing Halle dressed in leather.

I would guess this movie affected potentially moviegoers more negatively than Batman & Robin towards Batman Begins.

IE Why should I a non Batman fan go to Batman Begins when the last picture Catwoman was so craptacular?

Does not matter that Halle was not portraying Seline as the movie going public probably still connects that film with this franchise.

[biosh]

...the last picture Catwoman was so craptacular?

Did you see it? Just asking, because a lot of the worst reviews I've heard for Catwoman came from people who hadn't seen it...

[Montague]

Did you see it? Just asking, because a lot of the worst reviews I've heard for Catwoman came from people who hadn't seen it...
I rented it and admit I only got thru about half the movie before "had enough".

No doubt part of problem is my built in bias against the film cause I WAS a kinda comic book geek YEARS ago. :D

[Headhunter]

Rumors around the net say that Katie Holmes is outta the next Batman movie (YAY). The whole TOMKAT thing seems to be annoying studio execs and when asked which movie she would rather see on Letterman, she said something in the lines of "I have to support my man".

Good news, never liked her as an actor as good as batman was. I think she'll be easily replaceable.
I went from liking her on Dawson's Creek (I watched the first 2 seasons, shut up!) to be really annoyed by the relationship with Tom Cruise. I actively avoid these kinds of stories, and still it's everywhere; on the nightly news, interrupting the Batman related stories I'm interested in, etc...

Holmes should be Rachel Dawes for a few small scenes in whichever movie they end up doing Two Face in, but that's it.


The Joker had nothing to do with the death of his parents.

Never happened in the comic books.

Nor was his name Jack Napier as depicted in the Burton films.

Batman Begins has nothing to do with the other four films so dun think of it as a traditional prequel like the second Star Wars trilogy.
Yep, I'm trying very hard to pretend the other 4 didn't exist...the only good things about the first 2 were how the main hero/villains were portrayed; everything else was really shaky. Batman running around dropping bombs and otherwise slaughtering evil? Isn't that like Superman turning out to be a Communist? Totally ruined his character.


According to what I read on another board it is a photoshopped picture from an actual film in the 1930s.

The poster said it was supposed to have provided the inspiration for the Joker.
Cool.


Insightful comment...
Okay, let me put this in perspective. In the comics, Catwoman has been revamped to be a femme noir style of character; gritty, uses brains as much as sexuality, relatively unrevealing costume, and so on. This is the first Catwoman who is more than "Look at me, I'm basically nekkid!"

To put out a movie with a totally new character, with a horrific costume, unrelated to the Batman movie that WB knew it was releasing, and load it up with bad performances and an even worse plot, is a train wreck.

Alias, while sometimes bordering on plot incoherence, features performances with depth and emotion, and Jennifer Garner is a huge part of that. To compare her to Halle Berry's specific performance in Catwoman is unreasonable, in my opinion...

[thelefteyeguy]

someone else brought up another possible Joker: Daniel Day Lewis

[bfurtado]

With all the talk about what film is good or bad I figure I should chime in with a bit of my philosophy:

I work at a video store and am constantly giving reviews and hearing customer reactions. Everyone here is saying "Movie A" sucked while others say its great and vice versa. I think there are very specific criteria that make a movie good or not - its not subjective. A movie is good based on the freshness of the writing, the uniqueness of the story, the quality of the acting, etc. But this is entirely seperate from the whether or not the movie was ENTERTAINING. That is to say, when someone says a movie is bad or good, what they are really saying is whether it was entertaining. You can like a bad movie but it does not make it good and you can hate a good movie but it doesn't make it bad. Catwoman is a bad movie that some enjoyed but its still bad. Crouching Tiger is a good movie that many didn't like but its still good.
MOST of my customers hated Sideways. It was a well-told and intelligent film thus is was a good movie but, for the most part, it was not entertaining to most. So just because 90% of my customers hated it doesn't make the movie bad.

Brian

[S...]

Michael Jackson has always mentioned how much he loves Hollywood and how he would love to act in movies. In my opinion he would make a great joker...

S.

[thelefteyeguy]

With all the talk about what film is good or bad I figure I should chime in with a bit of my philosophy:

I work at a video store and am constantly giving reviews and hearing customer reactions. Everyone here is saying "Movie A" sucked while others say its great and vice versa. I think there are very specific criteria that make a movie good or not - its not subjective. A movie is good based on the freshness of the writing, the uniqueness of the story, the quality of the acting, etc. But this is entirely seperate from the whether or not the movie was ENTERTAINING. That is to say, when someone says a movie is bad or good, what they are really saying is whether it was entertaining. You can like a bad movie but it does not make it good and you can hate a good movie but it doesn't make it bad. Catwoman is a bad movie that some enjoyed but its still bad. Crouching Tiger is a good movie that many didn't like but its still good.
MOST of my customers hated Sideways. It was a well-told and intelligent film thus is was a good movie but, for the most part, it was not entertaining to most. So just because 90% of my customers hated it doesn't make the movie bad.

Brian

also depends on what part of town the video store is at.

[biosh]

With all the talk about what film is good or bad I figure I should chime in with a bit of my philosophy:

I work at a video store and am constantly giving reviews and hearing customer reactions. Everyone here is saying "Movie A" sucked while others say its great and vice versa. I think there are very specific criteria that make a movie good or not - its not subjective. A movie is good based on the freshness of the writing, the uniqueness of the story, the quality of the acting, etc. But this is entirely seperate from the whether or not the movie was ENTERTAINING. That is to say, when someone says a movie is bad or good, what they are really saying is whether it was entertaining. You can like a bad movie but it does not make it good and you can hate a good movie but it doesn't make it bad. Catwoman is a bad movie that some enjoyed but its still bad. Crouching Tiger is a good movie that many didn't like but its still good.
MOST of my customers hated Sideways. It was a well-told and intelligent film thus is was a good movie but, for the most part, it was not entertaining to most. So just because 90% of my customers hated it doesn't make the movie bad.

Brian
Interesting theory. Untrue, but interesting.

:)

[Headhunter]

I work at a video store and am constantly giving reviews and hearing customer reactions. Everyone here is saying "Movie A" sucked while others say its great and vice versa. I think there are very specific criteria that make a movie good or not - its not subjective.
Part objective, part subjective...there's an objective level that can be considered quality, but subjectivity always runs rampant; there is a surprising interest in garbage movies like Flesh Gordon precisely because they're objectively terrible. :lol:


A movie is good based on the freshness of the writing, the uniqueness of the story, the quality of the acting, etc. But this is entirely seperate from the whether or not the movie was ENTERTAINING.
And often, the writing doesn't even have to be fresh or the plot unique...it can still work. I don't think Caddyshack was blazingly unique, but the execution was good; the exact same movie with lesser actors (hard to top Chevy Chase in his prime and Bill Murray, who's always money) would have bombed.


MOST of my customers hated Sideways. It was a well-told and intelligent film thus is was a good movie but, for the most part, it was not entertaining to most. So just because 90% of my customers hated it doesn't make the movie bad.
One of the supposed "prestige" pictures, it's like studios roll these off the production line for awards nominations...

[cheukiecfu]

just came back from cinema.... IMAX!!!!
i would got to say this is the best batman movie ever!!
one of the best superhero movies... they sure learned how to make a good movie from spiderman... it's the STORYLINE that matters that the most..
the castings, the story, the music all are great..
complains: (yup.. no movie can be perfect, right?)
as sb mentioned, some fight scenes were cut too frequently (not sure if the intention was to make it a "fear/out of nowhere/sudden" scenes; it did work in some scenes, for ex: SPOILER drug scene, underwater scene, etc)
and they didn't wrap up the ending exactly... SPOILER:
what happen to the pplz in the ghetto part of the town after.. so are they all poisoned and suffered permanently?
instead of having gordon revealing the next villian, he could have said sth lame.. "the city is up to u now.. thanks batman.. etc"
that would still be a good ending and not having an obvious hint for a sequel..
i hate movie that hint for a sequel.. it's just pointless.. pplz don't judge whether they would watch the sequel based on the last 2 minutes or the hint.. they judge based on the overall movie..

anyway.. this movie is great.. even though i followed on this movie since a long time.. and set the bar really up high.. i wasn't disappointed...
but DAMNNNN.. i missed the chance to see the batmobile!!! :cry: :cry:

[Headhunter]

^ About those spoilers; the first part is explained in passing (even I missed it the first time, SPOILERS: (Gordon says that "The Narrows were lost", so they all went crazy...even if they hadn't killed each other, they're too insane to function anymore).

I disagree with the 2nd part, that ending was a good idea. The way it was revealed was maybe a tad obvious, but it's great if they do it right.

[b166er1337]

^ About those spoilers; the first part is explained in passing (even I missed it the first time, SPOILERS: (Gordon says that "The Narrows were lost", so they all went crazy...even if they hadn't killed each other, they're too insane to function anymore).

I disagree with the 2nd part, that ending was a good idea. The way it was revealed was maybe a tad obvious, but it's great if they do it right.

Saw it second time tonight. It still holds up very well :lol:

I wish scarecrow will be back, he is great as a minor villain.

[sfu_lifer]

Wow. Finally saw it.
I heard all the complaints about the lack of action from various reviews.
I totally disagree. The cuts and fades I thought were appropriate.
Very well done movie.

[mingcourt]

Is it me or does someone else think Ra's Al Suhl is actually Liam Neeson?
I've been arguing with a friend forever on this topic!

[b166er1337]

Is it me or does someone else think Ra's Al Suhl is actually Liam Neeson?
I've been arguing with a friend forever on this topic!

:confused:

You have trouble figuring it out??

[Rometiklan]

Is it me or does someone else think Ra's Al Suhl is actually Liam Neeson?
I've been arguing with a friend forever on this topic!

How'd you miss that? There was a big scene that revealed who Ra's Al Guhl really was. Maybe it would have been more obvious if he handed Bruce Wayne a business card that says, "I'm really Ra's Al Guhl". :D

Regarding the ending, I thought it was perfect the way it was. Moreso for the little exchange between Batman and Gordon, the beginnings of a relationship based on mutual respect, and unspoken loyalty. The calling card was just icing on the cake.

[Headhunter]

Is it me or does someone else think Ra's Al Suhl is actually Liam Neeson?
I've been arguing with a friend forever on this topic!
Breaking news, Bruce Wayne is Batman!

[b166er1337]

Breaking news, Bruce Wayne is Batman!


Breaking news, Batman is also a grammaton cleric!

[ZeeTX]

GOING TO SEE IT TONIGHT :D
In Imax of course


SPOILER QUESTION

Is the rumour true about Superman being in it??!

END SPOILER
Well, here's the SPOLIER answer.... :lol:

http://img161.echo.cx/img161/6233/clarkbruce6wb.jpg

[Yukikaze]

Man i can't believe someone took the time to put that in. :lol: Great photoshop job.

[pennysaver]

Saw th movie finally. Awesome! Character development was great. Loved it!

[Headhunter]

Well, here's the SPOLIER answer.... :lol:

http://img161.echo.cx/img161/6233/clarkbruce6wb.jpg
^ Almost had it, just had to soften Routh's image a bit and adjust the colour layers. Pretty good.

[Headhunter]

CNN's look at the Batmobile (http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/funonwheels/06/24/batmobile/index.html):


A peek inside the real Batmobile
The strange looking vehicle from Batman Begins is really eight cars. Four of them are truly fast.

June 28, 2005; Posted: 2:01 p.m. EDT (1801 GMT)
By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNN/Money staff writer


NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - If the crouching, jagged Batmobile from the movie "Batman Begins" looks to you like the offspring of a Lamborghini Countach and a Hummer, congratulations. You hit the nail on the head.

When production designer Nathan Crowley was trying to conceive the car's look, he went to a hobby shop and bought 1:12 scale models of a Lamborghini Countach and a Hummer.

Crowley cut those two models apart and combined them, dropping in the cockpit from a model of a P-38 Lightning.

"It looked awful," Crowley said. But it was a start, and it was headed in the right direction.

The concept went through several revisions before Crowley and his colleagues were satisfied that they had found the new Batmobile.

After creating each model, Crowley would photograph it. Then he used graphics software to superimpose the Batmobile's image onto photographs of New York City street scenes. Those were the closest things he could get to Gotham City at that time.

"Batman Begins" was produced by Warner Bros., which is part of Time Warner, as is CNN.com.

When he finally had a finished model, Crowley took it to car builders at England's Shepperton Studios where Chris Cobould and Andy Smith led a team that constructed the actual cars used in the film.

"They did a fantastic job," Crowley said.

He felt strongly, he said, that there had to be no compromises on the car's appearance. The finished Batmobile had to look just like the model or it wouldn't be right.

Crowley also didn't want to use any digital effects in scenes involving the car. Even the best computerized visual effects wouldn't have the gritty, realistic look he wanted, he said. That meant the car had to be fast and be fairly maneuverable.

Initially, it was thought that the hardest part of building the real car would be the front axle. Or, rather, the lack of a front axle. But its builders were able to create a strong enough front suspension based on two huge articulated arms, just like the model.

Under full acceleration, the car would actually rise up on its front "legs" while the front wheels stayed planted on the ground creating an effect like a giant spider -- a "bonus," according to Crowley.

The hardest things to get right were the tires. It took the filmmakers three months of searching to find the off-road truck tires they used for the rear wheels and the wide racing tires used on the front.

The four fully driveable Batmobiles the crew built are powered by a 340-horsepower General Motors V8 engine. Despite its tank-like appearance, the car is capable of going from zero to sixty miles an hour in 5.3 seconds, said Crowley.

The "jet engine" on the back of the car was fed by propane tanks.

There were four other Batmobiles created for the movie, as well. Two, used for scenes in which someone got into or out of the car, were powered only by electric motors. The space normally occupied by the engine was taken up, instead, by the hydraulic machinery used for the complex opening roof.

Two more Batmobiles, empty rolling shells, were shot out of huge air cannons to create leaping shots like those in which the car jumps through a waterfall into the Bat Cave.

A miniature car was used for a few scenes that couldn't be safely filmed using a full-sized vehicle.

Chase scenes through the streets and highways of Gotham City were filmed in Chicago. Although Gotham was modeled on New York -- Crowley called Bruce Wayne's hometown "New York City on steroids" -- Chicago agreed to shut off 12 blocks of the city for "Batman Begins" chase scenes.

Stunt driver George Cottle trained for months, Crowley said, taking the Batmobile for laps on a closed race track. Visibility from inside the cockpit was extremely poor, said Crowley, limited to a small area directly in front of the car. Video cameras wired to screens inside the cockpit provided views to the sides and back of the car.

For all of its capabilities, one thing the real-life Batmobile did not have was air conditioning.

"You lose a lot of weight driving that car," Crowley said.

And some slides (http://money.cnn.com/popups/2005/autos/batmobile/frameset.exclude.html) (pictures posted below):

http://i.cnn.net/money/popups/2005/autos/batmobile/bd10466.jpg http://i.cnn.net/money/popups/2005/autos/batmobile/bds6642.jpg
http://i.cnn.net/money/popups/2005/autos/batmobile/bd2389.jpg http://i.cnn.net/money/popups/2005/autos/batmobile/bd2349.jpg

[Yukikaze]

CNN's look at the Batmobile (http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/funonwheels/06/24/batmobile/index.html):



And some slides (http://money.cnn.com/popups/2005/autos/batmobile/frameset.exclude.html) (pictures posted below):

http://i.cnn.net/money/popups/2005/autos/batmobile/bd10466.jpg http://i.cnn.net/money/popups/2005/autos/batmobile/bds6642.jpg
http://i.cnn.net/money/popups/2005/autos/batmobile/bd2389.jpg http://i.cnn.net/money/popups/2005/autos/batmobile/bd2349.jpg

I heard that in the filming one of the batmobile got hit by a drunk driver. Anyone know if their selling a batmobile? That would be cool for a collection. :lol:

[KevC]

I think Cillian Murphy's performance was absolutely stellar. "It's the BAT-MAN...", absolutely great!

[chgolfs247]

What a great movie!! Saw it last night. Best movie I have seen for the year. Highly recommended.

[webdoctors]

damn, just my luck still no decent copies on bittorrent :(

just like star wars, i went to the theatre to see it, and they are all sold out. Unbelievable, the IMAX theatre on saturday was totally sold out for all their Batman shows, and this movie like 2+ weeks old now :mad:

[Headhunter]

damn, just my luck still no decent copies on bittorrent :(

just like star wars, i went to the theatre to see it, and they are all sold out. Unbelievable, the IMAX theatre on saturday was totally sold out for all their Batman shows, and this movie like 2+ weeks old now :mad:
You gotta buy the tickets for a show like 1-2 hours in advance; for IMAX screenings, I always buy 1-2 shows after the one coming up.

[webdoctors]

You gotta buy the tickets for a show like 1-2 hours in advance; for IMAX screenings, I always buy 1-2 shows after the one coming up.

i was there at 5 and even da 10 p.m. showz were sold out :cry:

[jerryhussain]

Different, Darker version of the Joker ..

Bale Talks Joker in Batman Seque

Actor Christian Bale spoke to MTV about the Joker possibly being included in a sequel to the successful Batman Begins movie and how he feels about the infamous character.

"I want to see the Joker, because I think it will be a very different kind of Joker than people have seen before," he said. "I think even the card that you see at the end of the movie shows that it is a darker, more sinister-looking Joker than anything I have seen depicted before. I think it would be a good adversary."

Bale also talked to the Chicago Sun-Times where he expressed his thoughts on Robin, the character whom plays Batman's teenage sidekick in the comics and previous Batman films.

"Thank God, there was no Robin," Bale says. "You really don't need him because Robin makes it campy and not dark.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/articles/2112.asp


Nolan returning, more than one villian in the sequel and no plans for Robin.

Nolan Talks Batman Begins Sequel

Director Christopher Nolan tells fans whether or not he is returning, will Robin make an appearance, and how many villains will be in a sequel.

Director Christopher Nolan spoke with Laceby News about whether he'd come back to direct a sequel - "If David's writing it, Christian's still Batman, and everyone else is returning.....me not returning would be like the only student of a graduating class skipping the big day to wash the car" said Nolan.

He also disclosed other information such as "Like Begins, one clear cut villain isn't the plan [though]" and the likelihood of Robin appearing "The studio wasn't interested in Robin. We weren't either.

This is a young Batman, so Robin's a few films....not for a few pictures anyway. Dick Grayson's still in a crib somewhere. I seriously doubt I will even be involved when Robin's in the franchise" says Nolan.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/articles/2084.asp

[Montague]

Brendan ventured to the Idaho home of original TV Batman Adam West to take him out on a date—a date with Batman Begins, the new (and decidedly different) cinematic take on the Batman mythos. Would the master of “Pow!” and “Bang!”-style Bat-action go for the more realistic physical and emotional struggles of Christian Bale’s moody Bat hero?

His take: Although he would have liked to have seen a little absurdity injected (like a certain TV show), but he did say, “The performances, I think, were outstanding.” Holy faint praise!
Taken from "http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/episodes/4214/Aaron_Augenblick_Adam_West_Rodi.html"

[jasonl33]

i was there at 5 and even da 10 p.m. showz were sold out :cry:

thats why you buy online -lol. It is great! I went to the theater and everyone lined up was getting turned down for tix bec they were sold out and I being smart bought it online just had to pick them up. Swiped my card and BANG, the tix came out. Everyone was wondering how I was able to get tix - gave the sales lady an awkward eye. lol.

[biosh]

Adam West sorta gives "thumbs up" on Batman Begins!
Taken from "http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/episodes/4214/Aaron_Augenblick_Adam_West_Rodi.html"
That is important to me - IMHO, no version of Batman has yet to top the 1960's spoof version that Adam West starred in...

[Montague]

That is important to me - IMHO, no version of Batman has yet to top the 1960's spoof version that Adam West starred in...
I can see if one grew up on watching the TV series to be particularly enamoured with the show.

Can you do the "Bat watusi" biosh? :cheesygri

I became a fan via reading the "graphic novels"/comic books so my perspective on the character is different.

[Headhunter]

That is important to me - IMHO, no version of Batman has yet to top the 1960's spoof version that Adam West starred in...
You sure that isn't childhood nostalgia kicking in? If you watched the series over again, you'd probably feel differently...

[biosh]

You sure that isn't childhood nostalgia kicking in? If you watched the series over again, you'd probably feel differently...
It's been playing pretty much continuouslyon TV for 40 years now - I recently watched a few episodes with my dad and my kids and we all laughed at the over the top camp hilarity. It really is a classic - though I'm sure for those raised on the comic books tone, it might be a hard variation to swallow...

I take it you're not a fan?

[ZeeTX]

You gotta buy the tickets for a show like 1-2 hours in advance; for IMAX screenings, I always buy 1-2 shows after the one coming up.
Aren't there any IMAX screenings for War of the Worlds in GTA..:?:
I couldn't find any..:!:

[Montague]

Aren't there any IMAX screenings for War of the Worlds in GTA..:?:
I couldn't find any..:!:
From what I heard War of the Worlds in IMAX is not a TRUE imax presentation but just the standard film projected on a larger screen unlike the Batman Begins showings in IMAX.

[jasonl33]

From what I heard War of the Worlds in IMAX is not a TRUE imax presentation but just the standard film projected on a larger screen unlike the Batman Begins showings in IMAX.

no imax showings yet... steven always waits a couple of weeks/ months after the release to re-release it @ true IMAX film...

[Headhunter]

It's been playing pretty much continuouslyon TV for 40 years now - I recently watched a few episodes with my dad and my kids and we all laughed at the over the top camp hilarity. It really is a classic - though I'm sure for those raised on the comic books tone, it might be a hard variation to swallow...

I take it you're not a fan?
I like it as a camp performance, but it has almost completely crippled the Batman legacy over the last 50 years. Not only does the 60's show blind most fans to the mature and gritty stories in comics, but it also ruined the film franchise at one point; Joel Schumacher wouldn't have dared to put out the disgusting Batman and Robin, if the goofy precedent hadn't been set.


Aren't there any IMAX screenings for War of the Worlds in GTA..:?:
I couldn't find any..:!:
As mentioned above, I think there aren't any "real" IMAX presentations.

On the other hand, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory will be on the big screen! :)

[sfu_lifer]

Say when did they introduce Robin in the comic books?
Did the orignal creator of Batman make him?
I mean he has no real purpose other than Bats lil buddy.

I mean, when you're trying to be stealthy, he'll probably cramp your style since you'd be worrying about him all the time :cheesygri

[Headhunter]

Yeah, Bob Kane was involved in Robin; for more details, click here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_%28comics%29).

[sfu_lifer]

Yeah, Bob Kane was involved in Robin; for more details, click here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_%28comics%29).
Holy Shades of Michael Jackson batman! :D

[Headhunter]

Holy Shades of Michael Jackson batman! :D
That's why Aunt Harriet was added for the 60's series, to "un-Neverland" it.

I always thought Alfred and Harriet were getting freaky while the Ambiguously Gay Duo were out fighting crime, so it didn't work with me... :twisted:

[snplow]

I hate to dig up an old thread, but I just saw Batman Begins and Wow... was it amazing. I think its a tie between Spiderman 2 and Batman Begins.

I especially liked the Bat-tank where they actually used it in chase scenes rather than having it blast down an empty streen with rocket engines.

[One369]

I agree with you, it was very good, saw it a few weeks ago and was surprised it was that good :razz:

[Headhunter]

Hopefully the DVD is done right, with a special edition coming out.

[Buggy166]

i saw it in IMAX, in regular cinema with a friend, at my dad's on the tv(from puter) and then again at my mom's on the tv(from puter again)

[Buggy166]

oops..anyways..i saw it 4 times and i still love it :)

[Headhunter]

Still playing on IMAX at the Paramount Toronto, for anyone interested.

[Headhunter]

Saw it again on the IMAX last night, WOW.

The experience is a lot different if A) you go at night, B) you go with a smaller crowd (less yakking), and C) you've had some grub. Watched it the first time on opening day while starving, went through this one after a hot dog and a bottle of Moosehead.

Much better. :)

[jerryhussain]

BATMAN BEGINS (Deluxe Edition)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000AU9UYM.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Starring: Christian Bale, Michael Caine, See more
Director: Christopher Nolan
Encoding: Region 1 (U.S. and Canada only. This DVD will probably NOT be viewable in other countries. Read more about DVD formats.)
Format: Color, Closed-captioned, Widescreen
Rated: http://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/detail/pg-13.gif
Studio: Warner Home Video
DVD Release Date: October 18, 2005
DVD Features:
Available subtitles: English, Spanish, French
Available Audio Tracks: English (Dolby Digital 5.1), French (Dolby Digital 5.1)
Genesis of the Bat: Batman incarnations from the mid-1980s to the present
The Journey Begins: creative concepts, story development and casting
Shaping Mind and Body: fighting style
Gotham City Rises: production design
Cape and Cowl: the new batsuit
The Tumbler: the new Batmobile
Path to Discovery: filming in Iceland
Saving Gotham City: the monorail chase sequence
Confidential files
Character/weaponry gallery
Photo gallery
Theatrical trailer
DVD-ROM features: Batman Begins mobile game demo & Web links
Inner Demons comic: Explore the special features through an exclusive interactive comic book
Exclusive collectible 72-page comic book containing: Detective Comics #27 (the very first Batman story), Batman: The Man Who Falls (a classic story that inspired Batman Begins), Batman: The Long Halloween (a chilling excerpt that also inspired the film)
Number of discs: 2


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000AU9UYM/ref=ase_dvdtalk/002-4668557-6148045?v=glance&s=dvd

[Headhunter]

^ Must buy, I'm also excited about the 72-page comic.

[StarStrike]

The DVD will be available next week at futureshop for $21.99 (Two Disc). I'm definately going to be picking this one up.

[b166er1337]

The DVD will be available next week at futureshop for $21.99 (Two Disc). I'm definately going to be picking this one up.

Same as Bestbuy. BB will give away free posters. To make things better, one can use the $2 coupon from McDonalds :)

[StarStrike]

Same as Bestbuy. BB will give away free posters. To make things better, one can use the $2 coupon from McDonalds :)

Sadly I can't do that since I haven't eaten at McDonalds in years and I don't plan on doing so in the near future, so I guess I'll have to pay full price. :(