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Mepoor
Feb 28th, 2010, 10:10 AM
YMMV!! and probably in-store only. I started this deal in another ACER Netbbok thread (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/staples-297-acer-aspire-one-11-6-2gbs-ram-250-gb-hd-intel-z520-859331/3/#post10388441)and thought it deserved it's own thread.

Staples has lower the clearance price again on Friday for the Acer Aspire 1410-8803 to $299 with the following features :

Intel Core 2 SU3500
11.6 inch screen
3 GBs ram
250 GB harddrive
Webcam
Bluetooth (maybe?, seems that some units have a dummy switch)
Wireless G/N
6 Cell battery
HDMI Out
Windows VISTA Home Premium (update: some folks have been receiving a free Windows 7 Home Premium upgrade, YMMV)

Good litte Video Review HERE (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaj38s_acer-aspire-as1410-laptop_tech)

another previous thread from last year (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/hot-acer-1410-core-2-solo-400-cendirect-com-cheaper-after-pm-staples-805273/#post9638668)... as also an old thread here (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/merged-staples-computer-clearance-thread-810642/8/#post10271859)

Call or go into the store for these SKU's:

Black SkU #822133
Red SKU #822144
Blue SKU #822142

Good Luck finding one!

lpsaad
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:04 AM
Link?

hagbard
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:13 AM
Being an Acer kills the deal. :twisted:

joey003
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:16 AM
This is a hot deal if you can find one.

Best is to call some locations and ask about sku.

When they were clearing these last month at $347 it was tough to find any in stock.

albundy99999999
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:21 AM
So, there's bluetooth on the Acer Aspire 1410 from Staples? I thought it was just an option.

Nethervue
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:27 AM
So, there's bluetooth on the Acer Aspire 1410 from Staples? I thought it was just an option.

Nope, no bluetooth. I reported BT in the other thread, but there isn't. It has the BT on and off switch, but it doesn't do anything. I love this netbook though, if you can find one for $299, do not hesitate. I do have a US keyboard on order though from Ebay, I hate the little left shift key (most laptops seem to be like that though). Great battery life, nice build quality, fast, HDMI out, plays MKVs, etc, etc, and etc. Loaded Windows 7 on it, runs great.

Edit: Just took this with my iPhone, give you an idea of the looks. Its the perfect size, little bigger than a 10.1 netbook, but much smaller than a laptop.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/morencyj/photo-1.jpg

hagbard
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:30 AM
The OP lists "Windows Home Premium", Windows what home premium?

joey003
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:33 AM
The OP lists "Windows Home Premium", Windows what home premium?

it comes with Vista Home Premium

pato17
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:47 AM
Is the 1810T SU7300 a good deal for $638 taxes in?

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10140ST4377&vpn=LX.PM402.001&manufacture=ACER

I was able to price match at NCIX

Mr FAT Head
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:53 AM
You're paying double the price for a processor that probably costs the manufacturer $40. :twisted:

grumpy2906
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:58 AM
Is the 1810T SU7300 a good deal for $638 taxes in?

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10140ST4377&vpn=LX.PM402.001&manufacture=ACER

I was able to price match at NCIX

It shure is. :)
Much better price than futureshop http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/acer-acer-aspire-11-6-intel-core-2-duo-su7300-1-3ghz-laptop-as1810t-8968-silver-as1810t-8968/10135190.aspx?path=4caddec09256456f7d74a5ea57cdb20 den02&lang=fr-CA&pcname=&sku=10135190&category=25313&StoreId=636:mad:

I wonder if they would price match Direct Canada ?

mtlboy
Feb 28th, 2010, 12:05 PM
does it have a dvd drive? also what is with these netbooks not letting you keep the operating system? it's just 'preinstalled'...

Nethervue
Feb 28th, 2010, 12:07 PM
No DVD drive. There is a restore partition, you can always get back to factory by booting to that and restoring. Its not a "netbook" thing, most companies do this now..been like this for a long time!

aviator_13
Feb 28th, 2010, 12:28 PM
Called around to a few Staples in the area....some have stock but they're being sold as a "Bronze package" according to them which means they opened it up, installed the updates, created recovery discs and "this process saves you 5 hours of work! .... but its an extra $89"

Needless to say, killed the deal for me.

pato17
Feb 28th, 2010, 12:45 PM
It shure is. :)
Much better price than futureshop http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/acer-acer-aspire-11-6-intel-core-2-duo-su7300-1-3ghz-laptop-as1810t-8968-silver-as1810t-8968/10135190.aspx?path=4caddec09256456f7d74a5ea57cdb20 den02&lang=fr-CA&pcname=&sku=10135190&category=25313&StoreId=636:mad:

I wonder if they would price match Direct Canada ?

Not sure. But you'd be paying more than $638 with Futureshop bc of the additional PST.

mtlboy
Feb 28th, 2010, 02:01 PM
is this cpu slower/faster than the n450? 1.66?

brule
Feb 28th, 2010, 02:03 PM
I got a black one.. It's too bad the upgrade program finished :( I wanted 7! :D

madamadakun
Feb 28th, 2010, 02:10 PM
I just bought one in Newmarket. Testing it out. Thanks op! But too bad there's no DVD rom.

p3t3rl1
Feb 28th, 2010, 02:19 PM
Just got one, came with the bronze plan. Told them I don't need the bronze plan so they settled for a 5% off on the original plan + 3 year extended warrenty came to $400 with tax included. This means I can change my batteries anytime I want within 3 years. Pretty sweet?

82
Feb 28th, 2010, 02:21 PM
can somebody verify the SKU?


I got a black one.. It's too bad the upgrade program finished :( I wanted 7! :D

madamadakun
Feb 28th, 2010, 02:24 PM
Forgot to mention: I notice some good deals in one of the Staples I was in:
RE5, Fallout 3 -ps3 $19.99
RE5, Halo Wars, GOW2- xbox $19.99

Strange that the price is not consistent across the stores.

p3t3rl1
Feb 28th, 2010, 02:30 PM
Btw, my came with windows 7 home premium preinstalled. So YMMV

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 02:35 PM
Just got one, came with the bronze plan. Told them I don't need the bronze plan so they settled for a 5% off on the original plan + 3 year extended warrenty came to $400 with tax included. This means I can change my batteries anytime I want within 3 years. Pretty sweet?

I don't think the Staples extended warranty covers batteries? Did you check the fine print?

ignoreme
Feb 28th, 2010, 02:41 PM
Lack of Win7 make the same make $50 off, that's the reality. Buy a retail Win7 HP?? I prefer to upgrade to Vista SP2, released in May 2009. Win7 is more like Vista SP3, but re-branded and not free upgraded.

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 02:41 PM
Btw, my came with windows 7 home premium preinstalled. So YMMV

There's one model variation that comes with Vista.

http://us.acer.com/acer/productv.do?LanguageISOCtxParam=en&kcond61e.c2att101=63750&sp=page16e&ctx2.c2att1=25&link=ln438e&CountryISOCtxParam=US&ctx1g.c2att92=447&ctx1.att21k=1&CRC=1346651341#wrAjaxHistory=10

The last one on the list.

dr_teng
Feb 28th, 2010, 02:41 PM
is this cpu slower/faster than the n450? 1.66?

Significantly faster.

p3t3rl1
Feb 28th, 2010, 02:52 PM
I don't think the Staples extended warranty covers batteries? Did you check the fine print?

I did, it includes laptop batteries.

also see

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/staples-extended-warranty-experiences-485481/

ciao
Feb 28th, 2010, 03:26 PM
Called around to a few Staples in the area....some have stock but they're being sold as a "Bronze package" according to them which means they opened it up, installed the updates, created recovery discs and "this process saves you 5 hours of work! .... but its an extra $89"

Needless to say, killed the deal for me.

Thanks OP.

No mention of the forced BRONZE PACKAGE.

For $300 you won't find a netbook close to this. SKU 822133 works for in-store check.

andreid
Feb 28th, 2010, 03:28 PM
Why do you shout out that $299 price while those sku give nothing and there is no link?


YMMV!! I started this deal in another ACER Netbbok thread (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/staples-297-acer-aspire-one-11-6-2gbs-ram-250-gb-hd-intel-z520-859331/3/#post10388441)and thought it deserved it's own thread.

Staples has lower theclearance price again on Friday for the Acer Aspire 1410-8803 to $299 with the following features :

Intel Core 2 SU3500
11.6 inch screen
3 GBs ram
250 GB harddrive
Webcam
Bluetooth
Wireless G/N
6 Cell battery
HDMI Out
Windows Home Premium

Good litte Video Review HERE (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaj38s_acer-aspire-as1410-laptop_tech)

another previous thread from last year (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/hot-acer-1410-core-2-solo-400-cendirect-com-cheaper-after-pm-staples-805273/#post9638668)... as also an old thread here (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/merged-staples-computer-clearance-thread-810642/8/#post10271859)


Black Sku#822133
Red SKU#88144
Blue SKU#88142

Good Luck finding one!

dimitry
Feb 28th, 2010, 03:39 PM
The 1410 is the best value netbook on market for 299. I've been waiting for a deal like this for 3 months. Pulled the trigger and I am very happy. It seems the staples have more stock than a few weeks back for some reason. I said I don't need the bronze so they dropped price to 329 (30 bucks for package). Total price came out to 375 incl all tax.

Staples has a new program where they will give you a Win 7 upgrade disk for free with purchase of a laptop/netbook. They also give you a usb replicator with purchase this weekend.

All in all a Very Hot Deal :)

Mepoor
Feb 28th, 2010, 03:44 PM
Why do you shout out that $299 price while those sku give nothing and there is no link? Why do I shout?!? WTF?

Being a clearance item(s) I figure Staples removed any web links a while ago. I gave the SKU's for easier reference when calling or going into the store. I trust you didn't get one... ha! :twisted: .

Studystand
Feb 28th, 2010, 03:44 PM
According to benchmarks this CPU is basically the same as a Pentium 4, in other words it's pretty terrible. Some reviews mentioned it's almost twice as fast as the Atom series. No body should buy this if they're looking for power, but it's a great deal.

Mepoor
Feb 28th, 2010, 03:48 PM
... Staples has a new program where they will give you a Win 7 upgrade disk for free with purchase of a laptop/netbook. They also give you a usb replicator with purchase this weekend.

All in all a Very Hot Deal :)Really? What is this program? What store did you buy from. Ny store did not mention this program. please advise!!

tkyoshi
Feb 28th, 2010, 03:51 PM
According to benchmarks this CPU is basically the same as a Pentium 4, in other words it's pretty terrible. Some reviews mentioned it's almost twice as fast as the Atom series. No body should buy this if they're looking for power, but it's a great deal.

No kidding, the Z Series is for Ultra Low Power/Portability, same with the GMA500, ultra low power. But also these are a companion to your other PC, if you want power you should be looking at the Core series :D.

But for HD Decoding the GMA500 will do better if setup properly to take advantage of the hardware acceleration in the GPU. A more powerful processor and GMA950 would still fare worse in this case since the processor has to do all the work.

madamadakun
Feb 28th, 2010, 03:55 PM
Really? What is this program? What store did you buy from. Ny store did not mention this program. please advise!!

+1

I only got a replicator hub thing. Is pretty big, not sure what it does though.

brule
Feb 28th, 2010, 03:56 PM
Why do you shout out that $299 price while those sku give nothing and there is no link?

I know the two colour SKU's don't work.. They are missing a number. I called around with only the black SKU.

ciao
Feb 28th, 2010, 03:58 PM
Really? What is this program? What store did you buy from. Ny store did not mention this program. please advise!!

+1, I wasn't offered anything

andreid
Feb 28th, 2010, 03:59 PM
I know the two colour SKU's don't work.. They are missing a number. I called around with only the black SKU.

So what's the point of this thread if the OP himself can not confirm the price?

I am annoyed because there is one in clearance at my Staples but about $70 higher and I can't do anything with such OP. Too bad.

Balanar08
Feb 28th, 2010, 04:02 PM
So what's the point of this thread if the OP himself can not confirm the price?

I am annoyed because there is one in clearance at my Staples but about $70 higher and I can't do anything with such OP. Too bad.

Ask to price check it. The tag could be like 2 months ago.

OR

Ask someone to scan their receipt and show it to a Csr.

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 04:11 PM
The 1410 is the best value netbook on market for 299. I've been waiting for a deal like this for 3 months. Pulled the trigger and I am very happy. It seems the staples have more stock than a few weeks back for some reason. I said I don't need the bronze so they dropped price to 329 (30 bucks for package). Total price came out to 375 incl all tax.

Staples has a new program where they will give you a Win 7 upgrade disk for free with purchase of a laptop/netbook. They also give you a usb replicator with purchase this weekend.

All in all a Very Hot Deal :)

Is that the HP port replicator? They were offering it for about $20 with a laptop purchase about 3 or 4 weeks ago.

At the same time I also saw a sign about a free Windows 7 installation with a laptop purchase. When I asked they said the installation didn't include Windows 7. You had to buy it separately. Maybe you came across a new offer?

Amourek
Feb 28th, 2010, 04:14 PM
review of the Gateway clone:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/Gateway_EC1803h_notebook

Nethervue
Feb 28th, 2010, 04:17 PM
So what's the point of this thread if the OP himself can not confirm the price?

I am annoyed because there is one in clearance at my Staples but about $70 higher and I can't do anything with such OP. Too bad.

I'll confirm it for you, its $299. Happy now? :)

Nethervue
Feb 28th, 2010, 04:35 PM
A thread with alot of good info:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=424213

guanghot
Feb 28th, 2010, 04:36 PM
Be careful of the STAPLES $80 laptop "set up" fee, which will bring the total to $380.

joey003
Feb 28th, 2010, 04:43 PM
According to benchmarks this CPU is basically the same as a Pentium 4, in other words it's pretty terrible. Some reviews mentioned it's almost twice as fast as the Atom series. No body should buy this if they're looking for power, but it's a great deal.

terrible? have you even used one? i've used this netbook with SU3500 and with a clean win7 install it flies. obviously not as powerful as Core 2 or other more power hungry cpus in bigger laptops but your not going to find anything this powerful even close to $300 price.

madamadakun
Feb 28th, 2010, 04:45 PM
So what's the point of this thread if the OP himself can not confirm the price?

I am annoyed because there is one in clearance at my Staples but about $70 higher and I can't do anything with such OP. Too bad.

I can send u the receipt if u want. pm me. I don't have a clue how to post the receipt here.

eten
Feb 28th, 2010, 04:50 PM
According to benchmarks this CPU is basically the same as a Pentium 4, in other words it's pretty terrible. Some reviews mentioned it's almost twice as fast as the Atom series. No body should buy this if they're looking for power, but it's a great deal.

CPU might be the same as a P4, but when I bought my P4 8 years ago, it came with 512MB of ram, not 3 GB. Swap a SSD in this and its pretty fast for a netbook.

Nethervue
Feb 28th, 2010, 04:53 PM
Be careful of the STAPLES $80 laptop "set up" fee, which will bring the total to $380.

Thats a YMMV on that...I got mine for $299, no setup fee or mention of it.

Mepoor
Feb 28th, 2010, 04:54 PM
I know the two colour SKU's don't work.. They are missing a number. I called around with only the black SKU.Oops, my bad. here's the proper SKU's, but call the store to check stock:
Black SkU #822133
Red SKU #822144
Blue SKU #822142

asdisme
Feb 28th, 2010, 05:02 PM
The 1410 is the best value netbook on market for 299. I've been waiting for a deal like this for 3 months. Pulled the trigger and I am very happy. It seems the staples have more stock than a few weeks back for some reason. I said I don't need the bronze so they dropped price to 329 (30 bucks for package). Total price came out to 375 incl all tax.

Staples has a new program where they will give you a Win 7 upgrade disk for free with purchase of a laptop/netbook. They also give you a usb replicator with purchase this weekend.

All in all a Very Hot Deal :)

How do i ask for this win 7 upgrade?

ciao
Feb 28th, 2010, 05:13 PM
Anyone have a problem sliding the left battery lock tab (ie. it'll hide the "red" marker)? Can't get mine to move.

Nethervue
Feb 28th, 2010, 05:15 PM
Anyone have a problem sliding the left battery lock tab (ie. it'll hide the "red" marker)? Can't get mine to move.

Not here..both slide ok.

Mepoor
Feb 28th, 2010, 05:24 PM
no problem here with the battery..
on this awesome little unit as we speak - very fast. love'n it :)
Go Canada! 2-0 so far :-)

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 05:31 PM
no problem here with the battery..
On this awesome little as we speak - very fast. Love'n it :)
go canada! 2-0 so far :-)

2-1

asdisme
Feb 28th, 2010, 05:37 PM
So I should be getting a Win7 disc and a USB replicator (whatever that is). If the deal ends today, that means I have like less than 30 mins to go back to the store and ask..... :mad:

ciao
Feb 28th, 2010, 05:45 PM
Not here..both slide ok.

Wonder if Staples will give me a discount for this issue?

zebek
Feb 28th, 2010, 05:56 PM
I have this and Paid $549.99 in September....this is a great deal,.....I recently took this to a LAN party and played BF2 on it.....it's a good little laptop...it's not a netbook...way more horsepower than a netbook

man
Feb 28th, 2010, 06:15 PM
hi
i can't update windows vista error code 80072f8f.
and can not turn on blue tooth

madamadakun
Feb 28th, 2010, 06:25 PM
hi
i can't update windows vista error code 80072f8f.
and can not turn on blue tooth

Nothing wrong with mines. But it took a while to get all the files updated

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 06:29 PM
no problem here with the battery..
On this awesome little as we speak - very fast. Love'n it :)
go canada! 2-0 so far :-)


2-1

2-2

qaz393
Feb 28th, 2010, 06:31 PM
i missed this deal. i bought one exactly 31 days ago, no more price protection for me. oh well...... i can confirm is this price. picked up another one

komal
Feb 28th, 2010, 06:33 PM
i missed this deal. i bought one exactly 31 days ago, no more price protection for me. oh well...... i can confirm is this price. picked up another one

Staples doesn't have price protection.
I bought this just over 2 weeks ago, about 16 or 17 days so I can't get my money back on the price drop either.

Nice machine, it works well, I just hate the glossy screen. My house has a lot of windows and when its bright out and I can't even see the screen sometimes.

redmileage99
Feb 28th, 2010, 06:33 PM
How do i ask for this win 7 upgrade?

For those didn't get Windows & upgrade DVD, you can ask the manager to check their portal information. They should give you the upgrade DVD with Vista notebook/PC. Staples store should receive shipment last Friday and upgrade all vista PC to Windows 7 by Monday. In any way, you should get the upgrade DVD along with the key.

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 06:39 PM
How do i ask for this win 7 upgrade?


For those didn't get Windows & upgrade DVD, you can ask the manager to check their portal information. They should give you the upgrade DVD with Vista notebook/PC. Staples store should receive shipment last Friday and upgrade all vista PC to Windows 7 by Monday. In any way, you should get the upgrade DVD along with the key.

Do you know exactly when that policy came into effect? I wonder if I might be covered under that.

Mepoor
Feb 28th, 2010, 06:54 PM
Canada wins GOLD !!!! 3-2

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 06:56 PM
no problem here with the battery..
on this awesome little as we speak - very fast. love'n it :)
Go Canada! 2-0 so far :-)


2-1


2-2

Canada 3-2 USA

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 06:57 PM
Canad wins gold !!!! 3-2

Missed the winning goal. Hope they replay it soon.

asdisme
Feb 28th, 2010, 06:57 PM
All hail Crosby

U4IA
Feb 28th, 2010, 07:16 PM
Go Canada!!

Has anyone had any luck with Staples and demo models.. I found one at $299 but was the floor model only and wasnt reallly that interested since they wouldnt discount it even a little.

Dont need it that badly but would be good for travelling...

ciao
Feb 28th, 2010, 07:18 PM
Any one noticed that their keyboard is slightly bowed (ie. convex), so when you press a key the whole keyboard moves?

For the touchpad I can zoom, scroll up and down, but I can't scroll side to side. Anyone have an issues scrolling side to side.

None of the above are deal breakers but a minor annoyance.

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 07:19 PM
Go Canada!!

Has anyone had any luck with Staples and demo models.. I found one at $299 but was the floor model only and wasnt reallly that interested since they wouldnt discount it even a little.

Dont need it that badly but would be good for travelling...

I've never bought a demo but the battery should be unused and still in the box.

hagbard
Feb 28th, 2010, 07:20 PM
Any one noticed that their keyboard is slightly bowed (ie. convex), so when you press a key the whole keyboard moves?

For the touchpad I can zoom, scroll up and down, but I can't scroll side to side. Anyone have an issues scrolling side to side.

None of the above are deal breakers but a minor annoyance.

What do you expect from a cheap ***** Acer?

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 07:27 PM
Any one noticed that their keyboard is slightly bowed (ie. convex), so when you press a key the whole keyboard moves?

For the touchpad I can zoom, scroll up and down, but I can't scroll side to side. Anyone have an issues scrolling side to side.

None of the above are deal breakers but a minor annoyance.

You mean the two finger sideways swipe? That isn't for sideways scrolling it works like the backwards and forwards button in your web browser. It advances or retreats you to the previous page.

Does anyone know what the circular swipe is supposed to do?

tenen
Feb 28th, 2010, 07:28 PM
So what's the point of this thread if the OP himself can not confirm the price?

I am annoyed because there is one in clearance at my Staples but about $70 higher and I can't do anything with such OP. Too bad.

Here is my receipt.

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4977/receipte.jpg

On a different note, has anyone tried using Skype on the 1410? I'm dropping calls, just wondering if anyone else has the same problem?

ciao
Feb 28th, 2010, 07:33 PM
You mean the two finger sideways swipe? That isn't for sideways scrolling it works like the backwards and forwards button in your web browser. It advances or retreats you to the previous page.

Does anyone know what the circular swipe is supposed to do?

Ah, thanks.

Circular (clockwise) is to scroll down the page, cannot scroll up! You have to go to top RH corner to initiate the scroll.

komal
Feb 28th, 2010, 07:35 PM
Ah, thanks.

Circular (clockwise) is to scroll down the page, cannot scroll up! You have to go to top RH corner to initiate the scroll.

No, you can scroll up or down by switching directions.

Nethervue
Feb 28th, 2010, 07:40 PM
What do you expect from a cheap ***** Acer?

Quit hatin!!

jindogae
Feb 28th, 2010, 07:41 PM
I've got one on hold with the added bronze package. It looks like a demo cause it's all scuffed up. The manager offered $50 off but I'm not sure that that is sufficent discount. Any thoughts?

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 07:43 PM
Ah, thanks.

Circular (clockwise) is to scroll down the page, cannot scroll up! You have to go to top RH corner to initiate the scroll.

I can't seem to get that one to work. So you use one finger and not two?

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 07:48 PM
I've got one on hold with the added bronze package. It looks like a demo cause it's all scuffed up. The manager offered $50 off but I'm not sure that that is sufficent discount. Any thoughts?

Have you checked the Staples coupons thread to see if there are any current ones?

brule
Feb 28th, 2010, 08:10 PM
How many people were able to get windows 7 with their pc?

jameswh
Feb 28th, 2010, 08:14 PM
checked in whole edmonton, only some stores have one for open box. so sad to skip it:cry:

speed_69
Feb 28th, 2010, 08:30 PM
Check both Staples in NE Calgary, didn't find anything :(

asdisme
Feb 28th, 2010, 08:31 PM
How do people prolong the battery life on these? When plugged into AC adapter do you guys remove the battery?

Tomorrow i'm going to go see if i can get the USB replicator and ask about WIN7 upgrade, will report back first thing tomorrow.

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 08:37 PM
checked in whole edmonton, only some stores have one for open box. so sad to skip it:cry:

I wouldn't be overly concerned about open box on a hot clearance laptop. Ask to see it before you purchase. Laptops are usually fingerprint and dust magnets so have a close look at it. It may have been opened simply to show a customer the colour.

petert
Feb 28th, 2010, 08:41 PM
Being an Acer kills the deal. :twisted:

------------------------------------
Have you ever read Consumer Reports my friend?

Search 2009 Consumer Reports: Top Picks for laptop :D

Raead
Feb 28th, 2010, 08:42 PM
How do people prolong the battery life on these? When plugged into AC adapter do you guys remove the battery

I do. And everyone should too. Prolong trickle charge is never good for the battery

If done right. The battery can last 4 year until it shows age. Ymmv of course since it also depend on when the batt is made

asdisme
Feb 28th, 2010, 08:55 PM
I do. And everyone should too. Prolong trickle charge is never good for the battery

If done right. The battery can last 4 year until it shows age. Ymmv of course since it also depend on when the batt is made

Alright so I just opened mine up, should i let the battery fully charge before turning it on to set it up? Or should I unplug the battery and just use the AC adapter's power?

Sorry I just want the best performance/durability of the netbook/notebook.

jobs50
Feb 28th, 2010, 09:01 PM
Gonna ask about the win 7 thing tomorrow, nice unit though. Very happy with this purchase. As a side note, Vernon b.c. Had 4 as of Friday 26th.

Cheers.

qaz393
Feb 28th, 2010, 09:09 PM
has anyone been able to get a further discount due to the windows 7 upgrade??

AzNCrAzYcOoLeR
Feb 28th, 2010, 09:32 PM
Can they force you to take the bronze package? I don't think they're allowed to do that. It's like saying I'm going to buy a TV, and I MUST take the Bluray player with it. It's two separate items in the system.

Raead
Feb 28th, 2010, 09:37 PM
Alright so I just opened mine up, should i let the battery fully charge before turning it on to set it up? Or should I unplug the battery and just use the AC adapter's power?

Sorry I just want the best performance/durability of the netbook/notebook.

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm

A very good read on how to keep battery from running out of its juice

All point being mention in that article is very true. Have a look

muskokarocks
Feb 28th, 2010, 09:49 PM
I was trying to buy a clearance notebook a while ago at Staples. It was on the floor with the warranty. The there was no way the the manager was going to sell it without it.>:( I left it there.

eternalprize
Feb 28th, 2010, 09:55 PM
I'm going to try grabbing this laptop tomorrow. Even if they include the "bronze" package, is it still a hot or warm deal?

Anyone think i'll get lucky? I'm near pearson airport with a couple options

asdisme
Feb 28th, 2010, 10:25 PM
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm

A very good read on how to keep battery from running out of its juice

All point being mention in that article is very true. Have a look

Thanks!

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 10:31 PM
How do people prolong the battery life on these? When plugged into AC adapter do you guys remove the battery?

Tomorrow i'm going to go see if i can get the USB replicator and ask about WIN7 upgrade, will report back first thing tomorrow.


http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm

A very good read on how to keep battery from running out of its juice

All point being mention in that article is very true. Have a look

"Figure 3 shows the cycle life as a function of charge and discharge rates. Observe the good laboratory performance if the battery is charged and discharged at 1C. (A 0.5C charge and discharge would further improve this rating.) "

Eh? What does 1C, 2C, and 3c on the chart refer to?

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/images/parttwo-34.jpg

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm

brucebeh
Feb 28th, 2010, 10:35 PM
^ pretty sure 1 degrees celcius.

Which is weird, i guess we should charge it in the fridge :cheesygri

ciao
Feb 28th, 2010, 10:47 PM
Anyone figure how to do this when there is no optical drive to burn discs? Is there an updated software version that allows you to burn to HDD or flash drive, can't find anything on their website or the internet.

albundy99999999
Feb 28th, 2010, 10:47 PM
Nope, no bluetooth. I reported BT in the other thread, but there isn't. It has the BT on and off switch, but it doesn't do anything. I love this netbook though, if you can find one for $299, do not hesitate. I do have a US keyboard on order though from Ebay, I hate the little left shift key (most laptops seem to be like that though). Great battery life, nice build quality, fast, HDMI out, plays MKVs, etc, etc, and etc. Loaded Windows 7 on it, runs great.


Thanks for taking a pic of it. That's what I thought - the ones from staples have no bluetooth despite there's an on/off switch. Yes, the French keyboard is a pain. Please let me know how the US keyboard replacement goes.

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 10:48 PM
^ pretty sure 1 degrees celcius.

Which is weird, i guess we should charge it in the fridge :cheesygri

No, it isn't celcius. I found the answer here http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-16.htm

What they are indicating is that if you charge or discharge the battery twice as fast, battery life is sacrificed. Not much you can do about that unless you run CPU intensive tasks off the wall outlet.

ciao
Feb 28th, 2010, 10:48 PM
I'm going to try grabbing this laptop tomorrow. Even if they include the "bronze" package, is it still a hot or warm deal?

Anyone think i'll get lucky? I'm near pearson airport with a couple options

Try the Staples at Airport Road and Queen St. They had a few left.

qaz393
Feb 28th, 2010, 10:49 PM
keyboard replacement is easy. just push the four tabs above top row of keys.

the recovery disk can be burned by the acer erecovery program

eternalprize
Feb 28th, 2010, 10:49 PM
Try the Staples at Airport Road and Queen St. They had a few left.

Thanks man!

ciao
Feb 28th, 2010, 10:59 PM
keyboard replacement is easy. just push the four tabs above top row of keys.

the recovery disk can be burned by the acer erecovery program

looking to create restore discs without using discs as there is no optical drive

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:00 PM
Thanks man!

Now that someone posted that on RFD you better get there before they open...

albundy99999999
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:00 PM
keyboard replacement is easy. just push the four tabs above top row of keys.

Thanks, may try that. Does anyone know if there's any left in East York, Scarborough, Markham, Vaughan or Richmond Hill areas?

fergy
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:02 PM
looking to create restore discs without using discs as there is no optical drive

Did you check the Acer site? Sometimes they are available from the manufacturer for a fee.

ciao
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:05 PM
Now that someone posted that on RFD you better get there before they open...

My mistake, should have sent a PM. But then again I would have not heard about this if the OP did not post here on this forum and held back by PMing only those in the earlier thread he created.

As he is close to the Airport, he may have a better chance

man
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:08 PM
hi
my bluetooth is not turning on, when i slide the switch i get bluetooth symbol with cross, and cannot update windows any idea.
thanks

qaz393
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:09 PM
check ur box. it should say if u have bt or not

Zerius
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:23 PM
"Figure 3 shows the cycle life as a function of charge and discharge rates. Observe the good laboratory performance if the battery is charged and discharged at 1C. (A 0.5C charge and discharge would further improve this rating.) "

Eh? What does 1C, 2C, and 3c on the chart refer to?

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/images/parttwo-34.jpg

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm

1 Coulomb

jimmyche
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:31 PM
Thanks OP.

Got a customer returned unit in Vancouver.
The math is a bit complicating here..

$470 (tax included) Minus $100 giftcard.

$299-$100 netbook.
$60 setup charge
$69.99 2 Yr warranty
$1.20 Recycle fee.
$100 Gift card.

Didn't need the recovery disc so the tech support knock 29.99 off the bronze package hence the $60 dollar setup charge.

I was told that the giftcard is a district promotion to pushed the bundle.
Any chance that I can return the 2 Yr warranty and/or the $100 gift card at another store?

Arranged with the Tech to go back later for Win 7 update as they have not received their shipment yet.

qaz393
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:33 PM
what is up with this setup fee? cant u people click a few buttons by urself? also u can get a refund of like $60+ for the windows portion if u call up acer to refund the windows portion. google it.

ignoreme
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:36 PM
Staples doesn't have price protection.
I bought this just over 2 weeks ago, about 16 or 17 days so I can't get my money back on the price drop either.

Nice machine, it works well, I just hate the glossy screen. My house has a lot of windows and when its bright out and I can't even see the screen sometimes.

14 days price protection I bought on Feb 12 and price match on Feb 26. No any more words, it's done.

jindogae
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:44 PM
I'm looking for something similar for my wife but was wondering if I could find something similar/better in the US. I'll be in Boston in a couple of weeks.

blainehamilton
Feb 28th, 2010, 11:57 PM
Sad to see so many people getting suckered into paying for a next to worthless 'bronze setup' and 'extended warranty' for these.

If they won't sell it without the services and warranty, ask for the manager immediately. If he won't budge, ask for his full name and direct phone number, and the contact information for his district manager because you'll be complaining to him.

That usually makes em cave. If not, follow thru with the district manager. I've gotten more than a couple of deals along with a nice apology from terrible store managers by doing that...

hiker007
Mar 1st, 2010, 12:14 AM
Thanks, may try that. Does anyone know if there's any left in East York, Scarborough, Markham, Vaughan or Richmond Hill areas?

I tried few store in those area, nothing:(

MichaelPublic
Mar 1st, 2010, 12:21 AM
found netbook

hiker007
Mar 1st, 2010, 12:25 AM
YMMV!! and probably in-store only. I started this deal in another ACER Netbbok thread (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/staples-297-acer-aspire-one-11-6-2gbs-ram-250-gb-hd-intel-z520-859331/3/#post10388441)and thought it deserved it's own thread.

Staples has lower the clearance price again on Friday for the Acer Aspire 1410-8803 to $299 with the following features :

Intel Core 2 SU3500
11.6 inch screen
3 GBs ram
250 GB harddrive
Webcam
Bluetooth
Wireless G/N
6 Cell battery
HDMI Out
Windows VISTA Home Premium

Good litte Video Review HERE (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaj38s_acer-aspire-as1410-laptop_tech)

another previous thread from last year (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/hot-acer-1410-core-2-solo-400-cendirect-com-cheaper-after-pm-staples-805273/#post9638668)... as also an old thread here (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/merged-staples-computer-clearance-thread-810642/8/#post10271859)

Call or go into the store for these SKU's:

Black SkU #822133
Red SKU #822144
Blue SKU #822142

Good Luck finding one!

How about Gateway L110 from BB? http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/gateway-gateway-lt-series-11-6-netbook-featuring-amd-athlon-64-processor-l110-lt3114h-black-lt3114h/10132274.aspx?path=81d4aa8f4c849ab23f96b4f8010db6e 9en02
BB also has one ASUS 12'' for 360$. but it's N270 1.2G/no HDMI.

komal
Mar 1st, 2010, 12:39 AM
14 days price protection I bought on Feb 12 and price match on Feb 26. No any more words, it's done.

I bought on Feb 12 as well, but I didn't learn of the price drop in time. Going to see what I can do.

The 14 day price protection isn't really price protection, its just an adjustment within the return period. If they didn't adjust the price for you, you would just return it and then buy it again at the lower price. If you did that, then the return period would be another 2 weeks, so this way they avoid having that happen.

That is why I said Staples doesn't have price protection.

Beradon
Mar 1st, 2010, 01:06 AM
How about Gateway L110 from BB? http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/gateway-gateway-lt-series-11-6-netbook-featuring-amd-athlon-64-processor-l110-lt3114h-black-lt3114h/10132274.aspx?path=81d4aa8f4c849ab23f96b4f8010db6e 9en02
BB also has one ASUS 12'' for 360$. but it's N270 1.2G/no HDMI.That Gateway uses an AMD mobile cpu which still isn't as energy efficient as Intel's.

ejohan
Mar 1st, 2010, 01:38 AM
Thanks OP.

Got a customer returned unit in Vancouver.
The math is a bit complicating here..

$470 (tax included) Minus $100 giftcard.

$299-$100 netbook.
$60 setup charge
$69.99 2 Yr warranty
$1.20 Recycle fee.
$100 Gift card.

Didn't need the recovery disc so the tech support knock 29.99 off the bronze package hence the $60 dollar setup charge.

I was told that the giftcard is a district promotion to pushed the bundle.
Any chance that I can return the 2 Yr warranty and/or the $100 gift card at another store?

Arranged with the Tech to go back later for Win 7 update as they have not received their shipment yet.

I'm pretty sure no manager would allow you to return the g/c or warranty at another store standalone.

Great deal anyway. Jeez. :D

Cheers,
Eric ;)

slayerwulf
Mar 1st, 2010, 08:52 AM
I picked one up 2 days ago in Ottawa at the bells corners location and they said there was still stock at one of the bank street locations. Mine does have bluetooth.

joey003
Mar 1st, 2010, 09:16 AM
I'm at the staples in brampton and ran into a fellow RFDer right when they opened.
Two open boxes left.... we just checked them out but one was acer AO751h for $227.

Ghetto_Child
Mar 1st, 2010, 09:45 AM
bluetooth must be a mistake I have the exact same model and bluetooth is not included only an option. It might be included if the unit was a store demo.

slayerwulf
Mar 1st, 2010, 10:20 AM
no bluetooth is no mistake it even says it on the side of the box I can take a picture when i get home.

Nethervue
Mar 1st, 2010, 10:31 AM
no bluetooth is no mistake it even says it on the side of the box I can take a picture when i get home.

I think mine says bluetooth as well on the box, plus has the switch and the little bluetooth icon on the screen...but no actual bluetooth. You've actually paired a bluetooth device to the laptop?

EDIT: My laptop box says Bluetooth: NA.

cell567
Mar 1st, 2010, 10:38 AM
Did all of you guys purchase open box units or have any of you lucked out and got a brand new? A couple stores I called only have "demo" units. I really want to pick this up...have any of you purchased demo units and were satisfied?

tenen
Mar 1st, 2010, 10:50 AM
After calling a few stores in the Hamilton area I ended up going to St.Catharines, where I found a brand new unit. All the other stores only had one display model. This was on Saturday.


Did all of you guys purchase open box units or have any of you lucked out and got a brand new? A couple stores I called only have "demo" units. I really want to pick this up...have any of you purchased demo units and were satisfied?

joey003
Mar 1st, 2010, 10:57 AM
Did all of you guys purchase open box units or have any of you lucked out and got a brand new? A couple stores I called only have "demo" units. I really want to pick this up...have any of you purchased demo units and were satisfied?

i've picked up an open box unit in the past and was very happy with it. you can open the box in store and take a quick look. also its easy to return within a few weeks if you find something wrong with it.

cell567
Mar 1st, 2010, 10:58 AM
Thanks for your guys input. Really appreciated.

ignoreme
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:23 AM
I bought on Feb 12 as well, but I didn't learn of the price drop in time. Going to see what I can do.

The 14 day price protection isn't really price protection, its just an adjustment within the return period. If they didn't adjust the price for you, you would just return it and then buy it again at the lower price. If you did that, then the return period would be another 2 weeks, so this way they avoid having that happen.

That is why I said Staples doesn't have price protection.

That's true. And when I showed my online coupon to them they refused to honor (I tried to bit a little more, at $279). The manager knows well about RFDer's thing.

fuhreal
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:39 AM
I bought this back last year for $429 plus taxes. Even at that price I am extremely happy with it. If you can find one and want/need a little laptop, buy it!

vancouvercash
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:46 AM
iv been unsucessfull with getting windows 7 with this notebook please confirm and specify how to get it or link to offer

asdisme
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:49 AM
iv been unsucessfull with getting windows 7 with this notebook please confirm and specify how to get it or link to offer

I believe when you purchase a this notebook, you gotta ask for the upgrade CD as well as the USB replicator. I'll be heading out to a Staples soon to confirm about these 2 freebies.

antihero
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:53 AM
I believe when you purchase a this notebook, you gotta ask for the upgrade CD as well as the USB replicator. I'll be heading out to a Staples soon to confirm about these 2 freebies.

Forgive my ignorance but what is the USB replicator? And why is Staples giving it with this cpu?

asdisme
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:56 AM
Forgive my ignorance but what is the USB replicator? And why is Staples giving it with this cpu?

I'm not quite sure why they are giving, but on the flyer it says you get one when you purchase a notebook. I googled the usb thing and it is just a box with usb slots, mic, headphone (adapter), i guess to give you more usb ports.

vpower
Mar 1st, 2010, 12:15 PM
Hi,

anyone can post the battery model please?

Thanks

jindogae
Mar 1st, 2010, 12:18 PM
The purpose of the USB replicator is if your computer is hooked up to various accessories. So instead of hooking it all up to you computer you hook it up into the replicator which then then uses only one cable to hook up to your computer. Convienent if you're moving your computer around.

Those of you looking to pick up the windows 7 disk and usb replicator might be out of luck. I was told that they are only being offered on Notebooks and not netbooks. Also the windows 7 was a promo that ended on Jan 31st but that some stores still had extra copies to give out with purchase of NOTEBOOKS.

ignoreme
Mar 1st, 2010, 12:20 PM
I believe when you purchase a this notebook, you gotta ask for the upgrade CD as well as the USB replicator. I'll be heading out to a Staples soon to confirm about these 2 freebies.

I did it and they asked for the $90 installation package. I refused.
I would like to hear any of your feedback from Acer Canada about the upgrade to Win7.

Actually all Win7 upgrade is operated by one SAME company. Acer's upgrade policy is online, no proof of purchase need (although you need to input a valid purchase date, before 31st Jan, to qualify). However, Acer's upgrade program for North America ends on 15th Feb, you cannot apply online and get free upgrade now. Many lucky guys actually got upgrade disc AFTER 31st Jan but applied before 15th Feb by online application.

Still, you can try the other of the world, if you have relatives living there. Need a small fee for shipment and tax (arround $15). Acer's upgrade qualification is SN-based. If the SN is not used and qualified, I believe it's a smooth process to get a upgrade disc in other countries. It doesn't matter where you bought the computer. Where you need it matters. Say if you buy a Acer in Canada during your visit, and would like to upgrade by delivering the disc to Japan, then a fee applied (only North America Acer users get the totally free upgrade!) Address is the key.

ahoroba
Mar 1st, 2010, 12:34 PM
Got one.

qaz393
Mar 1st, 2010, 01:36 PM
Anyone in Toronto/GTA willing to part with their BLUE Acer Aspire 1410 for $450 cash? Blue only wanted. Please PM me.

wow thats like making $110 . really tempting......

mat2312
Mar 1st, 2010, 01:54 PM
Hi,

anyone can post the battery model please?

Thanks

UM09E31 is what it says

djhustla
Mar 1st, 2010, 01:54 PM
Those of you looking to pick up the windows 7 disk and usb replicator might be out of luck. I was told that they are only being offered on Notebooks and not netbooks. Also the windows 7 was a promo that ended on Jan 31st but that some stores still had extra copies to give out with purchase of NOTEBOOKS.

The Port Replicator is free with netbooks online. Add it to your cart and use "91878" as a coupon code.

Here is the link to the replicator:
http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=830466&affixedcode=WW

mat2312
Mar 1st, 2010, 01:57 PM
The purpose of the USB replicator is if your computer is hooked up to various accessories. So instead of hooking it all up to you computer you hook it up into the replicator which then then uses only one cable to hook up to your computer. Convienent if you're moving your computer around.

Those of you looking to pick up the windows 7 disk and usb replicator might be out of luck. I was told that they are only being offered on Notebooks and not netbooks. Also the windows 7 was a promo that ended on Jan 31st but that some stores still had extra copies to give out with purchase of NOTEBOOKS.

Ok guys here's the deal. I JUST got a model from the Staples in Oshawa. I'm actually typing on it right now, I received:

netbook
free windows 7 upgrade
free usb port replicator

+ $30 off a wireless router (flyer promotion)


they said there was ONE left in the whitby location but it's not black hope it helps someone.

loonieryan
Mar 1st, 2010, 02:01 PM
Really want this but getting through to an associate in the "Technology" department is near impossible. Called like 6 stores and only got through at one, where there was no stock :(

vancouvercash
Mar 1st, 2010, 02:03 PM
any takers make an offer have a red unopened pm me

asdisme
Mar 1st, 2010, 02:08 PM
Back from staples, I was only able to get the USB replicator. They said the Win7 upgrade ended Jan 31st.... So which store has extra copies left, so we can mosh over there and take them? (GTA of course).

The Acer 1410 isn't consider a netbook nor a notebook I say it is in between. I would say it should still pass as a qualifier to redeem the USB replicator because I got mine :cheesygri. But no win7 upgrade :mad:

mat2312
Mar 1st, 2010, 02:14 PM
Back from staples, I was only able to get the USB replicator. They said the Win7 upgrade ended Jan 31st.... So which store has extra copies left, so we can mosh over there and take them? (GTA of course).

The Acer 1410 isn't consider a netbook nor a notebook I say it is in between. I would say it should still pass as a qualifier to redeem the USB replicator because I got mine :cheesygri. But no win7 upgrade :mad:

Let me know if you want to buy mine ;)

I was told that they just got a shipment in today of the win 7 upgrades. You can try Oshawa, that's where I got mine.

ignoreme
Mar 1st, 2010, 02:30 PM
Where is the policy that an Acer notebook come with free Win7 upgrade? Staple promotion??

I believe 1410 is their Notebook line.

asdisme
Mar 1st, 2010, 02:32 PM
Where is the policy that an Acer notebook come with free Win7 upgrade? Staple promotion??

I believe 1410 is their Notebook line.

That is what i'm trying to figure out lol. But i'm assuming that all their new stock comes with Win7 already installed and if they have win7 upgrade cds left they might as well give it to those who purchased old notebook/netbook with vista to get rid of them.

Mepoor
Mar 1st, 2010, 02:50 PM
...I believe 1410 is their Notebook line.I agree. the Acer website has the 11.6 in the Notebook Product section.

Not to get my hopes up but I was told by my local store Manager that if the store has any of the extra Win7 Home Premium CD's supplied to the store to upgrade any of the remaining Vista NOTEBOOKs (to help sell them better) AND if the OS is Vista HOME PREMIUM (and it is) then the ACER 1410 11.6" is eligible for the Staples Win7 HP upgrade program and will give me it for free. The store manager is going to confirm this and let me know.

Fingers crossed! :) I will advise how I make out later night...

ignoreme
Mar 1st, 2010, 03:04 PM
I agree. the Acer website has the 11.6 in the Notebook Product section.

Not to get my hopes up but I was told by my local store Manager that if the store has any of the extra Win7 Home Premium CD's supplied to the store to upgrade any of the remaining Vista NOTEBOOKs (to help sell them better) AND if the OS is Vista HOME PREMIUM (and it is) then the ACER 1410 11.6" is eligible for the Staples Win7 HP upgrade program and will give me it for free. The store manager is going to confirm this and let me know.

Fingers crossed! :) I will advise how I make out later night...

Oops, if you made it, pls give the store number/ telephone number/ and the name of the manager...need this to argue with local staple if were wrongly treated. Thanks a lot!

So how about the free USB one?? It's a promotion that anyone buy any notebook get a free USB XXX(I don't know what's it, I know it's FREE anyway)? Will take it and use as gifts.

tenen
Mar 1st, 2010, 03:08 PM
Back from staples, I was only able to get the USB replicator. They said the Win7 upgrade ended Jan 31st.... So which store has extra copies left, so we can mosh over there and take them? (GTA of course).

Went to Staples and got a free USB port replicator too.

I called a few stores and asked about the Windows 7 upgrade. One guy said that only notebooks qualify for an in-store upgrade. Everyone else replied that the manufacturers free upgrade program expired on Jan 31.

ignoreme
Mar 1st, 2010, 03:30 PM
Went to Staples and got a free USB port replicator too.

I called a few stores and asked about the Windows 7 upgrade. One guy said that only notebooks qualify for an in-store upgrade. Everyone else replied that the manufacturers free upgrade program expired on Jan 31.

There is upgrade disc there...they just want me to pay for it....

mtlboy
Mar 1st, 2010, 03:32 PM
bought this today and was told the win 7 upgrade ended also, they tried to pitch me hard on the 3yr $69 service plan

jobs50
Mar 1st, 2010, 03:33 PM
Love this machine, just a quick question, wondering if the US keyboard replacment (http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-1400-1410-Keyboard/dp/B000MQSX3S) would work on this unit? :?: Anyone had success with other notebooks/netbooks?

Cheers

mtlboy
Mar 1st, 2010, 03:33 PM
Really want this but getting through to an associate in the "Technology" department is near impossible. Called like 6 stores and only got through at one, where there was no stock :(

I spent 3 hours calling yesterday, just went to one near me and bought one from another store on transfer request, so I pick it up in 4 days.

komal
Mar 1st, 2010, 03:36 PM
WHOO!

I had a good experience at Staples. It is actually the first time that I have had a good experience at Staples.

I called a few Staples yesterday and explained my receipt was just past the 14 day return period, and asked if it would be possible to get the price adjusted. Most employees told me 14 days only right away, a few told me to talk to the manager and didn't actually connect me to the manager (man some Staples employees are just fools). One actually asked his manager while I was on the line, and said they might make an exception if I was just past the 14 days.

Went in and the manager was at the cashier's desk with the cashier, explained what happened, that I had called and they gave me back $50.

Pretty surprised.

Also, the Win7 upgrade was for Vista Home Premium and above, only on purchases made before Jan 31. So the Microsoft program expired, I doubt Staples would be giving away free copies of Win7.

mat2312
Mar 1st, 2010, 03:58 PM
WHOO!

I had a good experience at Staples. It is actually the first time that I have had a good experience at Staples.

I called a few Staples yesterday and explained my receipt was just past the 14 day return period, and asked if it would be possible to get the price adjusted. Most employees told me 14 days only right away, a few told me to talk to the manager and didn't actually connect me to the manager (man some Staples employees are just fools). One actually asked his manager while I was on the line, and said they might make an exception if I was just past the 14 days.

Went in and the manager was at the cashier's desk with the cashier, explained what happened, that I had called and they gave me back $50.

Pretty surprised.

Also, the Win7 upgrade was for Vista Home Premium and above, only on purchases made before Jan 31. So the Microsoft program expired, I doubt Staples would be giving away free copies of Win7.

They offered to install it themselves but I asked if I could have the software. When the better half gets home I can scan the receipt for you guys. In the mean time I can take a picture of it if you absolutely want! It scanned in at $129.00 or so but the cashier took it off.

+1 for the staples in my area, seems to be a well run place.

loonieryan
Mar 1st, 2010, 04:06 PM
I spent 3 hours calling yesterday, just went to one near me and bought one from another store on transfer request, so I pick it up in 4 days.

Which store did you go to to get the transfer request? I asked Pointe-Claire and the jerks there said they can't even check store stock for other stores because it's a clearance item.

mat2312
Mar 1st, 2010, 04:09 PM
Which store did you go to to get the transfer request? I asked Pointe-Claire and the jerks there said they can't even check store stock for other stores because it's a clearance item.

that's completely not true as I WATCHED the guy check store stock for other stores in my area

ignoreme
Mar 1st, 2010, 04:10 PM
They offered to install it themselves but I asked if I could have the software. When the better half gets home I can scan the receipt for you guys. In the mean time I can take a picture of it if you absolutely want! It scanned in at $129.00 or so but the cashier took it off.

+1 for the staples in my area, seems to be a well run place.

We need a group...I don't mean a TTC worker's association, but you know that work...to negotiate with Acer/ Staple/ Microsoft....

As a late Vista owner, Win7 no free upgrade is a joke. It could be a case by case deal? Send a proof of purchase, a valid SN, and get a valid upgrade Win7 code? the upgrade disc is nothing, you can download from MS and only thing you want is a code to activate it...

mat2312
Mar 1st, 2010, 04:23 PM
pic of the aspire and Win7 upgrade

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4351/picture3bf.jpg

ecsw
Mar 1st, 2010, 04:23 PM
Excellent laptop/deal .

Got it few months ago stacking coupon for $350. Got my Win7 free upgrade about 3~5 weeks after Win7 came out.

Battery good for around 5 hours. With my OCZ Vertex 60GB SSD, boot up in 30 seconds or wake up from hibernation for 15 seconds in Win7 home premium.
720p no problem and play beautifully on TV via HDMI.

No Bluetooth. Much faster than any Atom netbook.

Justin
Mar 1st, 2010, 04:30 PM
Picked up a blue one from Staples. Got the port replicator and they told me to bring it back within 2 weeks, once i set it up, and they will install Windows 7 for free. Sweet deal. I bought the same laptop in August for $500

mtlboy
Mar 1st, 2010, 04:31 PM
Which store did you go to to get the transfer request? I asked Pointe-Claire and the jerks there said they can't even check store stock for other stores because it's a clearance item.

mine is coming from st-jerome I think, honestly, these guys are all pricks, I spoke to maybe 2 or 3 guys out of 9 stores yesterday, telling me I had to buy the demo or the 'preconfigured' one or that they couldn't check other store stock. They can easily do it for this, I saw the guy do it today. I bought it at the store near me, and filled out a transfer request. It takes 3-4 days to get it from the other store, they call and they reserve it for you. You can pay for it at any store, then they will check the stock of the other stores, so it doesn't matter which one you pay for. I think there a couple of stores left that have n.i.b still, the one in cote vertu has a french one preconfigured whatever that means.

ignoreme
Mar 1st, 2010, 04:34 PM
pic of the aspire and Win7 upgrade

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4351/picture3bf.jpg

You mean you were given a HP retail disc???

ignoreme
Mar 1st, 2010, 04:35 PM
Picked up a blue one from Staples. Got the port replicator and they told me to bring it back within 2 weeks, once i set it up, and they will install Windows 7 for free. Sweet deal. I bought the same laptop in August for $500

can you give the name of the staple and manager? thanks...

mat2312
Mar 1st, 2010, 04:38 PM
You mean you were given a HP retail disc???

uhh whatever that is, I got lol it scanned in at $129.97. The guy said something to his manager and said that they were all taken out of the system this morning or something.

ignoreme
Mar 1st, 2010, 04:43 PM
uhh whatever that is, I got lol it scanned in at $129.97. The guy said something to his manager and said that they were all taken out of the system this morning or something.

Wat? buy a notebook and get a free Win7 retail?? and it's the system answer? could you confirm it??

loonieryan
Mar 1st, 2010, 05:01 PM
mine is coming from st-jerome I think, honestly, these guys are all pricks, I spoke to maybe 2 or 3 guys out of 9 stores yesterday, telling me I had to buy the demo or the 'preconfigured' one or that they couldn't check other store stock. They can easily do it for this, I saw the guy do it today. I bought it at the store near me, and filled out a transfer request. It takes 3-4 days to get it from the other store, they call and they reserve it for you. You can pay for it at any store, then they will check the stock of the other stores, so it doesn't matter which one you pay for. I think there a couple of stores left that have n.i.b still, the one in cote vertu has a french one preconfigured whatever that means.

Thanks! I've been calling a bunch of stores and all they seem to have is the demo or preconfigured like you said. I have yet to find a store that has NIB :(

One guy checked stock for me and said a bunch of stores show 1 in stock but it must be the demo...

joey003
Mar 1st, 2010, 05:05 PM
Love this machine, just a quick question, wondering if the US keyboard replacment (http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-1400-1410-Keyboard/dp/B000MQSX3S) would work on this unit? :?: Anyone had success with other notebooks/netbooks?

Cheers

I've changed a Acer 11" models with the US keyboard, very easy to do.

VanillaPep
Mar 1st, 2010, 05:05 PM
i have a win7 upgrade disc.. can i use it on any other computer?

masterc
Mar 1st, 2010, 05:11 PM
i have a win7 upgrade disc.. can i use it on any other computer?

Intended for the specific machine but... Win7 Install (http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/10/27/clean-install-windows-7-with-upgrade-media-and-product-key-on-formatted-or-empty-blank-hard-drive/)

mat2312
Mar 1st, 2010, 05:20 PM
Wat? buy a notebook and get a free Win7 retail?? and it's the system answer? could you confirm it??

Confirm it how? I said that it comes with free Win7 upgrade right? The guy goes ya, we can install it for you. I asked him if I could have the disk and install it at home so he got me it. At the cash, the cashier scanned it and the guy goes "no it's included" then asked the manager if all the Win7 disks have been taken out of the system. He said ya. I dunno maybe I got lucky or this is something that was out of the norm.

ignoreme
Mar 1st, 2010, 05:20 PM
Intended for the specific machine but... Win7 Install (http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/10/27/clean-install-windows-7-with-upgrade-media-and-product-key-on-formatted-or-empty-blank-hard-drive/)

Dude, you save me some money...I have a HP upgrade package not used...see if I can use for my Acer upgrade....

eternalprize
Mar 1st, 2010, 05:34 PM
grabbed one today in ontario, open box... no port replicator and no win7 upgrade disk. Can I go back and ask for such items??

Loving the laptop so far, but vista really is bad, can't wait to put win7 on this baby.

teddy
Mar 1st, 2010, 05:37 PM
Are there any staples coupons I can use for in-store purchase? thx.

joongpark
Mar 1st, 2010, 06:09 PM
Did anyone pass on Demo or Open Box ones in GTA?
I want to pick one up but can't call because I am at work.

Thanks.

Digbo
Mar 1st, 2010, 06:16 PM
I turned it on and had it setup. Apparently the specs indicate that it only has 2GB of RAM. The sticker on the laptop indicate 3GB MEMORY. But not sure if it means RAM or another type of memory. Anyone else have theirs at 2GB RAM?

dogger66
Mar 1st, 2010, 06:43 PM
Mine says 3.00 GB in system info screen.

btw....picked one up in Vernon, BC today....they still have stock if anyone close by is interested

madamadakun
Mar 1st, 2010, 07:22 PM
I turned it on and had it setup. Apparently the specs indicate that it only has 2GB of RAM. The sticker on the laptop indicate 3GB MEMORY. But not sure if it means RAM or another type of memory. Anyone else have theirs at 2GB RAM?

Says 3 gb on mines. Is that the older model u got?

netforce85
Mar 1st, 2010, 07:34 PM
Thanks a lot OP!
Just picked up the last on at the Staples in Ancaster.
It's a resealed model, but it looks virtually new with all the plastic wrap and everything.
Came preinstalled with Win 7, and had a win 7 upgrade kit inside the packaging.
Cost $341 after taxes.

jobs50
Mar 1st, 2010, 07:43 PM
Went back to store after picking one up a couple days ago, asked the comp dept about getting win 7 upgrade. She said they have extended the offer and are expecting 12 disks tomorrow. Took my name and # and reciept info. Will call when ready for pickup. Stoked. Vista is super clunky. Go and ask your store and if they have to call around to confirm, have them do so. Best of luck.

ignoreme
Mar 1st, 2010, 07:47 PM
Thanks a lot OP!
Just picked up the last on at the Staples in Ancaster.
It's a resealed model, but it looks virtually new with all the plastic wrap and everything.
Came preinstalled with Win 7, and had a win 7 upgrade kit inside the packaging.
Cost $341 after taxes.

Wahhh, looks if I just get a Win7 disc, they should pay me back $20...for my own installation...

aznmidnite
Mar 1st, 2010, 07:48 PM
Went back to store after picking one up a couple days ago, asked the comp dept about getting win 7 upgrade. She said they have extended the offer and are expecting 12 disks tomorrow. Took my name and # and reciept info. Will call when ready for pickup. Stoked. Vista is super clunky. Go and ask your store and if they have to call around to confirm, have them do so. Best of luck.

Were you (or anyone else) able to find one @ a Vancouver location? Been trying to find one. Went to one on Granview, but nothing. Person looked it up on computer, but I think they were entering the SKU on the staples website, instead of store computer. Was in a rush, so had to leave store.

jimmyche
Mar 1st, 2010, 07:54 PM
Were you (or anyone else) able to find one @ a Vancouver location? Been trying to find one. Went to one on Granview, but nothing. Person looked it up on computer, but I think they were entering the SKU on the staples website, instead of store computer. Was in a rush, so had to leave store.

Got mine yesterday from Burnaby Marine drive store.
Seems like that I am the only with with the forced setup and warranty but also given a $100 giftcard.

82
Mar 1st, 2010, 08:12 PM
Is the port replicator merely useless? it looks like a USB hub with Ethernet to me.

And i dont get it, why the dual core SU4100 is 1.3Ghz with only 2MB cache, the single core SU3500 is 1.4Ghz with 3MB cache but the passmark of SU4100 is double of the SU3500. Should there be some overhead penalty on parallel processing and the smaller cache?

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

This AS1410 does not has Bluetooth, the switch is just a dummy.

aznmidnite
Mar 1st, 2010, 08:12 PM
Got mine yesterday from Burnaby Marine drive store.
Seems like that I am the only with with the forced setup and warranty but also given a $100 giftcard.

Hello Jimmyche,
Thanks for your input. Called that location just now and they are sold out.

They did say Park Royal shows one unit left in Red. Called Park Royal, and that last one is missing battery and charger. Too bad, sounds like a great deal!

By the way, is the $100 gift card only applicable to this clearnace item, or other netbooks as well?

EPcjay
Mar 1st, 2010, 08:20 PM
I picked one up, and it was a demo unit. Checked it out, looks good. For those with this unit, mine didn't come with bluetooth, and the box indicates no bluetooth as well. How are you guys getting bluetooth with it.
Also, the manager advised me if the customer does not want the bronze package, they don't have the take it. It's an extra service. It's no different from buying a current line notebook without the bronze package. Why sell the packge to one notebook and not forced to another? That's not consistent.

I'm using the port replicator as a USB hub. Great little thing in the corner.

ciao
Mar 1st, 2010, 08:26 PM
Picked up a blue one from Staples. Got the port replicator and they told me to bring it back within 2 weeks, once i set it up, and they will install Windows 7 for free. Sweet deal. I bought the same laptop in August for $500

Would appreciate it if those who got the free upgrade would indicate the store.

TIA

ecsw
Mar 1st, 2010, 09:14 PM
BTW, althought it's a 1.4Ghz Core 2 Solo (SU3500), CPU-Z actually shows it as 1.6Ghz for the frequency.....

U4IA
Mar 1st, 2010, 09:14 PM
So first Staples I found a demo model only and wasnt that interested..

After reading about the windows 7 upgrade went to another Staples that I know had stock... Only the demo model left. Wouldnt sell the demo model as the manager said it wasnt on clearance (?)

Asked about windows 7 and told no...

No mention of gift cards or whatever.....

Staples sure makes it 'Easy' :)

brule
Mar 1st, 2010, 09:24 PM
The SU4100 uses double the power (it's dual core), which is why it's approximately double the speed.


Is the port replicator merely useless? it looks like a USB hub with Ethernet to me.

And i dont get it, why the dual core SU4100 is 1.3Ghz with only 2MB cache, the single core SU3500 is 1.4Ghz with 3MB cache but the passmark of SU4100 is double of the SU3500. Should there be some overhead penalty on parallel processing and the smaller cache?

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

This AS1410 does not has Bluetooth, the switch is just a dummy.

82
Mar 1st, 2010, 09:37 PM
I expect the SU4100 should be 5-10% less than double of SU3500 CPU passmark because it has less on-die cache, slower clock speed and parallel processing overhead. The passmark chart says it is exactly double, so something is wrong unless the SU4100 has better architecture.


The SU4100 uses double the power (it's dual core), which is why it's approximately double the speed.

mtldealwiz
Mar 1st, 2010, 09:39 PM
Thanks! I've been calling a bunch of stores and all they seem to have is the demo or preconfigured like you said. I have yet to find a store that has NIB :(

One guy checked stock for me and said a bunch of stores show 1 in stock but it must be the demo...

I bought one of the last ones at Pointe Claire yesterday. they had 1 red left after I bought mine. i think it was demo. there was no power cord in the box.

as for the french one at cote vertu, i don't know if it's bnib or return/demo. all i know is it's black.

when i asked the clerk to check the inventory, i was told their were 3 at Gatineau. but, they told me they couldn't transfer stock from that location.

Btw, anyone in Mtl get a windows 7 upgrade ?

Derfel
Mar 1st, 2010, 09:44 PM
None left in Winnipeg (go figure, I'm surprised Staples even carries PAPER in Winnipeg)... but there are FIVE black ones in Regina. They won't do store to store shipping... unless I pay an extra $69. Bah!

Mepoor
Mar 1st, 2010, 09:44 PM
I agree. the Acer website has the 11.6 in the Notebook Product section.

Not to get my hopes up but I was told by my local store Manager that if the store has any of the extra Win7 Home Premium CD's supplied to the store to upgrade any of the remaining Vista NOTEBOOKs (to help sell them better) AND if the OS is Vista HOME PREMIUM (and it is) then the ACER 1410 11.6" is eligible for the Staples Win7 HP upgrade program and will give me it for free. The store manager is going to confirm this and let me know.

Fingers crossed! :) I will advise how I make out later night...Well it all worked out in the end. :) Just as it was explained above.
Got my free Win 7 Home Premium Upgrade CD package and the HP USB Replicator tonight. $200 worth of extras! :cheesygri
Only works for Notebooks AND if the store still has any extra Win 7 Upgrade for Vista CD's... good luck with it!

ignoreme
Mar 1st, 2010, 09:47 PM
Well it all worked out in the end. :) Just as it was explained above.
Got my free Win 7 Home Premium Upgrade CD package and the HP USB Replicator tonight. $200 worth of extras! :cheesygri
Only works for Notebooks AND if the store still has any extra Win 7 Upgrade for Vista CD's... good luck with it!

Could you disclose the store and the telephone number, and the manager's name pls? Or, PM? thanks

bdragon
Mar 1st, 2010, 10:22 PM
For those who got this without bluetooth, there's a bluetooth USB adapter advertised at Factory Direct for $10

jindogae
Mar 1st, 2010, 10:22 PM
Those in the GTA looking for this computer there are 2 at the Sherway location as of closing tonight. However both have been "bronzed" so there's an extra fee. I couldn't get them to waive the fee so I left them there.
There was a red one in pretty good shape and a black one that must have been the display bc it's pretty scratched up.

komal
Mar 1st, 2010, 10:24 PM
None left in Winnipeg (go figure, I'm surprised Staples even carries PAPER in Winnipeg)... but there are FIVE black ones in Regina. They won't do store to store shipping... unless I pay an extra $69. Bah!

There were 2 new ones in Winnipeg 2 and a half weeks ago. At that time some stores also had 1 open box or demo unit. So you're about 2 weeks too late, they have been clearing these units out for a long time now. They first went down to $350 and people were scooping them up then, now they are at $300 but the numbers are already low so finding them now would be quite difficult.

jindogae
Mar 1st, 2010, 10:25 PM
So far I've only read one post where someone picked up the extended warranty. Isn't $69 a pretty good deal for an extra 2 years. I double checked and it does cover the battery.

asdisme
Mar 1st, 2010, 10:27 PM
Well it all worked out in the end. :) Just as it was explained above.
Got my free Win 7 Home Premium Upgrade CD package and the HP USB Replicator tonight. $200 worth of extras! :cheesygri
Only works for Notebooks AND if the store still has any extra Win 7 Upgrade for Vista CD's... good luck with it!

Can you also let me know what store you were at? I went to 2 different one and they said no.... :mad:

redmileage99
Mar 1st, 2010, 10:48 PM
So far I've only read one post where someone picked up the extended warranty. Isn't $69 a pretty good deal for an extra 2 years. I double checked and it does cover the battery.


Sad to see so many people getting suckered into paying for a next to worthless 'bronze setup' and 'extended warranty' for these.

If they won't sell it without the services and warranty, ask for the manager immediately. If he won't budge, ask for his full name and direct phone number, and the contact information for his district manager because you'll be complaining to him.

That usually makes em cave. If not, follow thru with the district manager. I've gotten more than a couple of deals along with a nice apology from terrible store managers by doing that...

It's not right to force bundle bronze setup. Do what blainehamilton said. It will work. I tried twice, both worked.

bigbug
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:04 PM
I was able to get one from Markham store without paying the "bronze setup" fee. Questions:

1. What makes "bronze setup" special?

2. I'm not sure if the store will give me Win 7 DVD. If I manage to get one, how do I clean install it on this beauty without a DVDROM?

Thanks.

brule
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:05 PM
I was able to get one from Markham store without paying the "bronze setup" fee. Questions:

1. What makes "bronze setup" special?

2. I'm not sure if the store will give me Win 7 DVD. If I manage to get one, how do I clean install it on this beauty without a DVDROM?

Thanks.

2. Copy DVD to usb :D There's about a million tools, and even one by microsoft.

http://images2.store.microsoft.com/prod/clustera/framework/w7udt/1.0/en-us/Windows7-USB-DVD-tool.exe

bigbug
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:12 PM
2. Copy DVD to usb :D There's about a million tools, and even one by microsoft.

http://images2.store.microsoft.com/prod/clustera/framework/w7udt/1.0/en-us/Windows7-USB-DVD-tool.exe

Answer is so quick! Thank you and let the fun begin :lol:

Mepoor
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:16 PM
So far I've only read one post where someone picked up the extended warranty. Isn't $69 a pretty good deal for an extra 2 years. I double checked and it does cover the battery.
I got the 2yr Ext Warranty for $69. Just the battery replacement feature is worth it!

What about an external DVD burn?? Staples has the Memorex 8x Slim External DVD Recorder on-sale for $69.

Walmart has a nifty Acer Aspire One Netbook Accessory Kit (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Mini-Netbook-Accessory-Kit/11084596)for $95 that comes with Mini-wireless mouse, external 8x DVD Burner Optical drive, amd Protective netbook sleeve for 11.6" units.

ignoreme
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:20 PM
2. Copy DVD to usb :D There's about a million tools, and even one by microsoft.

http://images2.store.microsoft.com/prod/clustera/framework/w7udt/1.0/en-us/Windows7-USB-DVD-tool.exe

You can copy it to anywhere other than C: drive and it works.

loonieryan
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:24 PM
Big thanks to the OP! I managed to find a red demo at Boisbriand and then a new red one at Saint-Eustache.

If anyone in Mtl wants it I might be selling the demo unit, which is in excellent condition. PM me if you're interested.

loonieryan
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:30 PM
Btw, anyone in Mtl get a windows 7 upgrade ?

No luck getting the Win7 upgrade, they told me it ended Jan 30th. Only one of the two stores actually gave me the HP USB replicator bonus, the other store claimed it wasn't valid for netbook purchases.


2. I'm not sure if the store will give me Win 7 DVD. If I manage to get one, how do I clean install it on this beauty without a DVDROM?

If you have an IDE or SATA CD/DVD internal drive then you can just stick it in an IDE or SATA USB hard drive enclosure and install that way.

ignoreme
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:30 PM
I got the 2yr Ext Warranty for $69. Just the battery replacement feature is worth it!

What about an external DVD burn?? Staples has the Memorex 8x Slim External DVD Recorder on-sale for $69.

Walmart has a nifty Acer Aspire One Netbook Accessory Kit (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Mini-Netbook-Accessory-Kit/11084596)for $95 that comes with Mini-wireless mouse, external 8x DVD Burner Optical drive, amd Protective netbook sleeve for 11.6" units.

Buy, use it, then return?
You make OS and applications at C:, make a C: ghost at D:. If you want to go back, recover it.
To do this, a WinPE 3.0 will be very handy...

ciao
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:58 PM
anyone notice that HDD is only about 220/ 237 Gb

netforce85
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:02 AM
anyone notice that HDD is only about 220/ 237 Gb

Hard drive manufacturers use 1gb = 1000mb
Windows uses 1gb = 1024mb
That's why a 250gb drive is about 220gb in windows.

ignoreme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:10 AM
hard drive manufacturers use 1gb = 1000mb
windows uses 1gb = 1024mb
that's why a 250gb drive is about 220gb in windows.

8bit=1bye
1024bye=1kb
1024kb=1mb
1024mb=1gb
1024gb=1tb

brule
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:13 AM
8bit=1bye
1024bye=1kb
1024kb=1mb
1024mb=1gb
1024gb=1tb

Don't forget the overhead for the NTFS file system :) I think it's somewhere between 10-20%.. Yeah seems it's really 232.. does anyone know how to access the recovery system? There's a 12 GB hidden partition.

ignoreme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:25 AM
Don't forget the overhead for the NTFS file system :) I think it's somewhere between 10-20%.. Yeah seems it's really 232.. does anyone know how to access the recovery system? There's a 12 GB hidden partition.

Acronis Disk Director. This is good to do anything about your HD. Really strong!

brule
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:50 AM
Acronis Disk Director. This is good to do anything about your HD. Really strong!

Ahh... this is what i was looking for.. (Hopefully it's alright in case people are interested).

1 Restart the system.

2 The instruction "Press <F2> to Enter BIOS" is shown at the bottom
of the screen, during POST.

3 Press <Alt> + <F10> at the same time to enter the recovery process.

4 The message "The system has password protection. Please enter
000000:" is displayed.

5 Enter six 0s and continue.

6 "Acer Self-Configuration Preload" window appears.

7 Use the arrow keys to scroll through the items (operating system
versions) and press "Enter" to select.
Setup password and exit

Press "F3" to setup password or press "F5" to exit the system recovery
process when "Acer Self-Configuration Preload" window appears.

If "F3" is pressed, the next screen shows "Please enter new password:"
enter one to eight alphanumeric characters. You will be asked to reenter
your password for confirmation before continuing.

The screen will display "Password has been created. Press any key to
reboot...", hit any key to reboot your system.

If "F5" is pressed, the recovery process will be terminated and the system
will reboot and start normally.

Important: This feature occupies 2 GB in a hidden partition on your hard drive

robbic
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:03 AM
Westbank bc, ,
The sales guy was really helpfull, but said they had never had a 3 gig ram, 250 gig hard drive netbook.
I asked him to check the sku to see if any other stores had stock, he did, but then said that he had to get the manager, as the system was showing that they had 4 in stock.
They found them, all black, I bought 1, so there might be 3 left if the staff have not already bought them.
Thanks OP, was looking for something like this.
ps
So far very happy.
720p movies play with a stutter every now and then, still very watchable. Standard def is very good

gateway
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:06 AM
any left in the GTA?

jmarley123
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:10 AM
Westbank bc, ,
The sales guy was really helpfull, but said they had never had a 3 gig ram, 250 gig hard drive netbook.
I asked him to check the sku to see if any other stores had stock, he did, but then said that he had to get the manager, as the system was showing that they had 4 in stock.
They found them, all black, I bought 1, so there might be 3 left if the staff have not already bought them.
Thanks OP, was looking for something like this.
ps
So far very happy.
720p movies play with a stutter every now and then, still very watchable. Standard def is very good

By Westbank you mean Okanagan?

82
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:18 AM
The 4500MHD is capable for 1080p decoding, try MPC-HC and enable hardware decoding.


Westbank bc, ,
The sales guy was really helpfull, but said they had never had a 3 gig ram, 250 gig hard drive netbook.
I asked him to check the sku to see if any other stores had stock, he did, but then said that he had to get the manager, as the system was showing that they had 4 in stock.
They found them, all black, I bought 1, so there might be 3 left if the staff have not already bought them.
Thanks OP, was looking for something like this.
ps
So far very happy.
720p movies play with a stutter every now and then, still very watchable. Standard def is very good

consumerPI
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:34 AM
That's because it's technically NOT a netbook.


Westbank bc, ,
The sales guy was really helpfull, but said they had never had a 3 gig ram, 250 gig hard drive netbook.

loonieryan
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:42 AM
Don't forget the overhead for the NTFS file system :) I think it's somewhere between 10-20%.. Yeah seems it's really 232.. does anyone know how to access the recovery system? There's a 12 GB hidden partition.

GParted. It's free and bootable from USB. Best disk formatting and partitioning tool ever.

loonieryan
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:44 AM
720p movies play with a stutter every now and then, still very watchable. Standard def is very good

This thing can play 1080p without a hitch. Use MPC-HC which supports full hardware decoding of HD video.

robbic
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:46 AM
By Westbank you mean Okanagan?

Yes, by Kelowna

robbic
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:57 AM
That's because it's technically NOT a netbook.

Is that because the screen is 11.6" instead of 10"? it is still has an led screen and no dvd drive, but I think you are correct.

When I first talked to the sales guy, I gave him the model number, and said that it was an 11.5" screen, he just had never seen it. They had none on display.

komal
Mar 2nd, 2010, 02:03 AM
Is that because the screen is 11.6" instead of 10"? it is still has an led screen and no dvd drive, but I think you are correct.

When I first talked to the sales guy, I gave him the model number, and said that it was an 11.5" screen, he just had never seen it. They had none on display.

Because Acer classifies this as a notebook and not a netbook on its website.

robbic
Mar 2nd, 2010, 02:13 AM
This thing can play 1080p without a hitch. Use MPC-HC which supports full hardware decoding of HD video.

Just tried it, you are totally right.
I ripped my bluray copy of Full Metal Jacket, 1080p, 8 gig, and it plays flawless.
( well, I didn't just rip it, it took 18 hours....lol)
VLC could not play it.

EPcjay
Mar 2nd, 2010, 03:13 AM
I ordered the windows 7 disc from acer's website and had it sent to my cousin in HK.
Anyone need a external DVD burner? I got an extra slim one, sealed in box for $50 bux

EPcjay
Mar 2nd, 2010, 04:47 AM
My wifi connects to me Dir-655 as 54mbps. I thought this had draft N?

joey003
Mar 2nd, 2010, 05:26 AM
anyone notice that HDD is only about 220/ 237 Gb


Hard drive manufacturers use 1gb = 1000mb
Windows uses 1gb = 1024mb
That's why a 250gb drive is about 220gb in windows.


8bit=1bye
1024bye=1kb
1024kb=1mb
1024mb=1gb
1024gb=1tb


Don't forget the overhead for the NTFS file system :) I think it's somewhere between 10-20%.. Yeah seems it's really 232.. does anyone know how to access the recovery system? There's a 12 GB hidden partition.

hard drive manufacturers use 1GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes. The drive is technically 250 GiB (Gibibyte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibibyte)) or 250,000,000,000 bytes.

250,000,000,000 bytes = 250/1024^3 = 232.8 GB

I really don't think NTFS overhead has anything to do with it.

flamenko
Mar 2nd, 2010, 07:32 AM
Was just reading through the thread and would recommend the guide below if any are interested and using Win7. It discusses clean installs, speeding up your system, performance tricks, start time as well as a number of other key elements to get your system flying... Hope you enjoy it.

There is even a way of creating God Mode on your new installation of W7 if you so choose.

montytown
Mar 2nd, 2010, 08:59 AM
can someone pls test if this machine can play HD Youtube (1080p or 720p) videos smoothly?

Thanks

mec9t8
Mar 2nd, 2010, 09:03 AM
anyone know anything left in GTA area? .. thanks in advance.

redmileage99
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:20 AM
My wifi connects to me Dir-655 as 54mbps. I thought this had draft N?

Technically, only if you connect using WPA2-AES, you will get full N speed. Any other type of connection will only give you 54mbps. I use WPA2-AES and get 144 or 72 depends on the location relative to the router.


can someone pls test if this machine can play HD Youtube (1080p or 720p) videos smoothly?

Thanks

Yes it can play 1080p flash smoothly but you need to download and install flash player 10.1 beta 3 and enable hardware acceleration. On my machine, download seems to be slower than play. Once I finished download, play 1080p flash is smooth.

fuzzione
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:34 AM
This thing can play 1080p without a hitch. Use MPC-HC which supports full hardware decoding of HD video.

I've been through every possible tutorial and combination of players and codecs for the 1410. In my case the stock WMP12 (Win 7 64-bit) combined with the latest Shark007 codec pack + latest Haali splitter (64 bit versions) worked the best. Getting 10-15% CPU hits on average quality 1080p encodes. Excellent quality encodes yield < 10%, all with no hiccups. This is arguably one of the cleaner combinations and avoids cluttering your system with unnecessary crap. Try this and you won't go back. Make sure you set your power options to high performance and run the vid against a basic desktop theme (no aero, etc). Also, I found the stock Microsoft Win7 drivers worked the best for the realtec sound vs. realtec's latest drivers.

loonieryan
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:49 AM
hard drive manufacturers use 1GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes. The drive is technically 250 GiB (Gibibyte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibibyte)) or 250,000,000,000 bytes.

250,000,000,000 bytes = 250/1024^3 = 232.8 GB

I really don't think NTFS overhead has anything to do with it.

There's a hidden recovery partition of 12GB on this machine. It can be easily wiped out using GParted.


Was just reading through the thread and would recommend the guide below if any are interested and using Win7. It discusses clean installs, speeding up your system, performance tricks, start time as well as a number of other key elements to get your system flying... Hope you enjoy it.

There is even a way of creating God Mode on your new installation of W7 if you so choose.

Thanks for the link, this is also a great tweak guide: http://www.tweakhound.com/windows7/tweaking/index.html


I've been through every possible tutorial and combination of players and codecs for the 1410. In my case the stock WMP12 (Win 7 64-bit) combined with the latest Shark007 codec pack + latest Haali splitter (64 bit versions) worked the best. Getting 10-15% CPU hits on average quality 1080p encodes. Excellent quality encodes yield < 10%, all with no hiccups. This is arguably one of the cleaner combinations and avoids cluttering your system with unnecessary crap. Try this and you won't go back. Make sure you set your power options to high performance and run the vid against a basic desktop theme (no aero, etc). Also, I found the stock Microsoft Win7 drivers worked the best for the realtec sound vs. realtec's latest drivers.

LOL @ you! Having to install Haali Media Splitter and a codec pack MEANS you're loading your system with "unnecessary crap". This is arguably NOT a clean combination.

The cleanest, all-in-one, best quality, most reliable solution is MPC-HC (http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/). You don't need to install ANYTHING at all. MPC-HC comes bundled with everything you need, and in fact it even runs as a portable, stand-alone app that doesn't even need to be installed. There's no cleaner way to run HD media than that!

ignoreme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:57 AM
can someone pls test if this machine can play HD Youtube (1080p or 720p) videos smoothly?

Thanks

You need to install Adobe Flash Player 10.1 beta3....this plug-in support GMA4500. Then you will see the difference...be careful, there is 2 version, one for IE and one for non-IE. I use Firefox.

I've tried it, no complaints. Although CPU at 60%-100%. But, fluent! and I can do other things at the same time...surving, compacting...no problem.

SU3500 is not that strong, but for general use, especially if you don't play games, it's enough for HD playing. It's at least a qualified HD player...and, portable, long-last battery, a real notebook!

fuzzione
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:57 AM
There's a hidden recovery partition of 12GB on this machine. It can be easily wiped out using GParted.



Thanks for the link, this is also a great tweak guide: http://www.tweakhound.com/windows7/tweaking/index.html



LOL @ you! Having to install Haali Media Splitter and a codec pack MEANS you're loading your system with "unnecessary crap". This is arguably NOT a clean combination.

The cleanest, all-in-one, best quality, most reliable solution is MPC-HC (http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/). You don't need to install ANYTHING at all. MPC-HC comes bundled with everything you need, and in fact it even runs as a portable, stand-alone app that doesn't even need to be installed. There's no cleaner way to run HD media than that!

Yup, been there, done that, still stand by my statement. Shark's utility provides for valuable combinations and tweaks (including running WMP12 64 bit as the default player...important consideration), and still provides a minimialist installation. I would therefore describe the extras that Shark007 provides as 'necessary crap' :cheesygri

I, too, was initially an MPC-HC fan for a while until I went with the above combination.

82
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:58 AM
those who got the port replicator, can you comment about it? Is it just a USB hub with wired ethernet, mic, headphone jacks? I wonder if I should fight for it.

loonieryan
Mar 2nd, 2010, 11:04 AM
those who got the port replicator, can you comment about it? Is it just a USB hub with wired ethernet, mic, headphone jacks? I wonder if I should fight for it.

I bought 2 Aspires in red but only got the port replicator at one of the stores. I think it's worth fighting for. It has 5 USB ports, ethernet and speaker/mic. It's much smaller than it looks in the pics and on the box. It's actually only 15cm tall and has a diameter of 6cm.

ignoreme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 11:07 AM
LOL @ you! Having to install Haali Media Splitter and a codec pack MEANS you're loading your system with "unnecessary crap". This is arguably NOT a clean combination.

The cleanest, all-in-one, best quality, most reliable solution is MPC-HC (http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/). You don't need to install ANYTHING at all. MPC-HC comes bundled with everything you need, and in fact it even runs as a portable, stand-alone app that doesn't even need to be installed. There's no cleaner way to run HD media than that!

Thanks a lot! I have searched for some time and most refer a KMplyer plan. I will try yours. You mean, with MPC-HC, I don't need to adjust anything and support GMA4500 hardware acceleration? How's MPC-HC's support of multiple media format playing? I really prefer a ALL-IN-ONE~~

Nethervue
Mar 2nd, 2010, 11:11 AM
I tried hardware acceleration, but the quality just wasn't the same...at least in my setup. I went back and just installed CCCP and eventhough my CPU %shot up, quality is fantastic. I've read on forums that I'm not alone on this, but, maybe its just my setup. I went with Media Player Classic and had DXVA enabled. 1080p worked great, but like I said, the quality was just a bit less then what I'm used to with CCCP for example.

ignoreme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 11:18 AM
I tried hardware acceleration, but the quality just wasn't the same...at least in my setup. I went back and just installed CCCP and eventhough my CPU %shot up, quality is fantastic. I've read on forums that I'm not alone on this, but, maybe its just my setup. I went with Media Player Classic and had DXVA enabled. 1080p worked great, but like I said, the quality was just a bit less then what I'm used to with CCCP for example.

CCCP? Is this a player? or codec? Can I use MPC-HC with CCCP? I am a newbie at HD~~~

loonieryan
Mar 2nd, 2010, 11:26 AM
Thanks a lot! I have searched for some time and most refer a KMplyer plan. I will try yours. You mean, with MPC-HC, I don't need to adjust anything and support GMA4500 hardware acceleration? How's MPC-HC's support of multiple media format playing? I really prefer a ALL-IN-ONE~~

MPC-HC really is the best all-in-one.

DONT install CCCP. It is a codec pack and will clutter your system with useless codecs and will lead to many codec conflicts and issues.

If MPC-HC doesn't look good to you like the above poster, then all you need to install is the ffdshow codec and configure MPC-HC to use the external ffdshow codec instead of it's own internal decoder. The above poster that installed the entire useless CCCP codec pack doesn't realize that his system is now just using the ffdshow software decoder, and that's all he really needed to install instead of an entire codec pack to pollute his system.

Codec packs are the best way to load up your system with unnecessary crap and can lead to many codec conflicts in the long term.

ignoreme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 11:33 AM
MPC-HC really is the best all-in-one.

DONT install CCCP. It is a codec pack and will clutter your system with useless codecs and will lead to many codec conflicts and issues.

If MPC-HC doesn't look good to you like the above poster, then all you need to install is the ffdshow codec and configure MPC-HC to use the external ffdshow codec instead of it's own internal decoder. The above poster that installed the entire useless CCCP codec pack doesn't realize that his system is now just using the ffdshow software decoder, and that's all he really needed to install instead of an entire codec pack to pollute his system.

Codec packs are the best way to load up your system with unnecessary crap and can lead to many codec conflicts in the long term.

Thanks. I am not a HD fans, I don't need 7 sound channels...I will try MPC-HC..do you think I need to uninstall other players to make it cleaning??

loonieryan
Mar 2nd, 2010, 11:34 AM
Here's the latest 64-bit release of MPC-HC, without installer (portable & standalone): http://www.xvidvideo.ru/2009-10-22-10-49-14/doc_details/3217-media-player-classic-homecinema-x64-svn-1718-----without-installer.html

Here's the latest 32-bit release of MPC-HC, without installer (portable & standalone): http://www.xvidvideo.ru/2009-10-22-10-49-14/doc_details/3216-media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-svn-1718-----without-installer.html

If you want an installer version then that is also available at the site above.

16el
Mar 2nd, 2010, 11:52 AM
thanks op. I saw this two weeks ago at my local Staples but never acted on it. I was able to pick on up yesterday. It came preloaded with Win7 HP but no disks.

my USB DVDR drive isn't working at the moment. Anyone know if its possible to create the Acer recovery disks to an image file? I tried a usb drive but it wasn't an option.

ignoreme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 11:53 AM
Here's the latest 64-bit release of MPC-HC, without installer (portable & standalone): http://www.xvidvideo.ru/2009-10-22-10-49-14/doc_details/3217-media-player-classic-homecinema-x64-svn-1718-----without-installer.html

Here's the latest 32-bit release of MPC-HC, without installer (portable & standalone): http://www.xvidvideo.ru/2009-10-22-10-49-14/doc_details/3216-media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-svn-1718-----without-installer.html

If you want an installer version then that is also available at the site above.

Interface is Russian?? I prefer installer one, and make it default. What's the difference between the one you referred and the official MPC one? just GREEN?

joey003
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:42 PM
There's a hidden recovery partition of 12GB on this machine. It can be easily wiped out using GParted.


or even better, do a clean windows 7 install and wipe the partition that way

loonieryan
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:42 PM
Interface is Russian?? I prefer installer one, and make it default. What's the difference between the one you referred and the official MPC one? just GREEN?

The site is Russian, but MPC-HC itself is all in English. The difference between the Russian site and the official MPC one is that the Russian site has the latest release from the latest source code. The official MPC one has the last stable release which might be a few months old.

I uploaded the latest 32-bit installer for you to SendSpace: http://www.sendspace.com/file/auywxq

asdisme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:52 PM
Did anyone try picking up win7 for free in the GTA?

hagbard
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:59 PM
So, what's the rational for getting Win7 for free?

bon
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:09 PM
Quebec's Costco ask for $529,9x :mad:

bigbug
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:18 PM
I always use ffshow + Haali splitter. What kind of garbage this combination would create? I prefer to use them because they work very well with Windows Media Center. Can that MPC-HC work with Windows Media Center?

82
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:21 PM
Costco model is dual-core and shipped with Win7 HP and 2 years warranty.

Intel announced N470 today, still can't match the performance of U3500.


Quebec's Costco ask for $529,9x :mad:

nerdonsite
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:22 PM
Quebec's Costco ask for $529,9x :mad:

That's a different model, it has the Intel SU4100 (dual core) instead of the SU3500 (singe core) that come with the one being talked about in this thread.

These are really great little machines. I picked up a brand new blue one three weeks ago @ $347 for my sister and she couldn't be happier with it. Since then, I had been seraching for one for myself and thanks to the OP, I was able to find a black open box unit at the milton location a few days ago for $299. I wish I had found out about the price drop a week ago...could have saved another $50 on the blue one. Oh well, still an awesome deal.

jimmyche
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:41 PM
Hello Jimmyche,
Thanks for your input. Called that location just now and they are sold out.

They did say Park Royal shows one unit left in Red. Called Park Royal, and that last one is missing battery and charger. Too bad, sounds like a great deal!

By the way, is the $100 gift card only applicable to this clearnace item, or other netbooks as well?

All bundled notebook, desktop and netbook at this location (Burnaby Marine Drive) has gift cards.
$50 to $100 depending on the model.

82
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:44 PM
How's black vs blue? :cheesygri

Is it a fingerprint magnet?


That's a different model, it has the Intel SU4100 (dual core) instead of the SU3500 (singe core) that come with the one being talked about in this thread.

These are really great little machines. I picked up a brand new blue one three weeks ago @ $347 for my sister and she couldn't be happier with it. Since then, I had been seraching for one for myself and thanks to the OP, I was able to find a black open box unit at the milton location a few days ago for $299. I wish I had found out about the price drop a week ago...could have saved another $50 on the blue one. Oh well, still an awesome deal.

nerdonsite
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:48 PM
How's black vs blue? :cheesygri

Is it a fingerprint magnet?

Personally, I prefer the black. They are both very prone to fingerprints, since they are both dark and glossy colors. But at this price, I'm not complaining.

Atheana
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:56 PM
nerdonsite:

How is this acer comparing to your lenovo T400? :razz:

lovelle20
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:58 PM
I got one demo unit from Danforth Rd./Victoria Park location. I wasn't able to get a free Win 7 upgrade but I'm goin to try call and ask for it. If anybody is kind enough to share what location they got their free win 7, that would be great.

It's a nice machine the only thing I don't want is that I'm having difficulty navigating with the mouse pad so I'm not sure if this is the same for all since mine is a demo unit.

joey003
Mar 2nd, 2010, 01:59 PM
nerdonsite:

How is this acer comparing to your lenovo T400? :razz:

T400 is quite a different type of laptop than this acer. if anything you should ask how it is compared to the x100e

montytown
Mar 2nd, 2010, 02:00 PM
is the battery life on this machine the same as the 1810tz? (the one with the su4100 CPU).
Cause that one says 7-8 hrs battery life, but has a higher power cpu, so would the 1410 last longer?

jimmyche
Mar 2nd, 2010, 02:06 PM
is the battery life on this machine the same as the 1810tz? (the one with the su4100 CPU).
Cause that one says 7-8 hrs battery life, but has a higher power cpu, so would the 1410 last longer?

the two's batteries are interchangeable.

however, the one comes with the 1810tz should be the 5600 mAh version while ours with the 1410 is only 4400 mAh.

Nethervue
Mar 2nd, 2010, 02:07 PM
MPC-HC really is the best all-in-one.

DONT install CCCP. It is a codec pack and will clutter your system with useless codecs and will lead to many codec conflicts and issues.

The above poster that installed the entire useless CCCP codec pack doesn't realize that his system is now just using the ffdshow software decoder, and that's all he really needed to install instead of an entire codec pack to pollute his system.

I think you are confusing CCCP with KLITE. My machine is far from polluted.

vpower
Mar 2nd, 2010, 02:31 PM
the two's batteries are interchangeable.

however, the one comes with the 1810tz should be the 5600 mAh version while ours with the 1410 is only 4400 mAh.

Indeed.

I would really appreciate anyone who can post the 1810t battery number.

I may order one from Acer. Not too interested into no name ones..

ignoreme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 02:41 PM
Indeed.

I would really appreciate anyone who can post the 1810t battery number.

I may order one from Acer. Not too interested into no name ones..

You can see from Acer's website...download a 1810T's specification...

ignoreme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 02:51 PM
Anyone's called Acer about the Win7 upgrade issue?
From Acer's website and its Win7 upgrade partner, North America's online application ends on Feb 15th. However, a call to Acer's customer service doesn't hurt. For them, a upgrade disc is almost free.
Or, can we order a recovery disc??? I think Vista is not available and Win7 is the only choice. Ask if we can, get a Win7 recovery disc as the way to go Win7 (e.x. order a current 1410's recovery disc, with Win7 pre-installed)??
I cannot do this cus I am at work, no SN with me. I was able to get a online chat agent, he said he's only working for Aspire One customer and ask me for SN. And, no SN, no service. Wahhh~~~
Anyone call and post feedback here is very appreciated. Remember to write down the name of the CSR and if a good decision made, other RFDers can follow...
Thanks. I don't think my local Stable is so nice to promise me a free Win7 package. The largest possibility comes from Acer for Win7 upgrade.

82
Mar 2nd, 2010, 03:00 PM
Good suggestion, can you call Acer? I will do that too.


Anyone's called Acer about the Win7 upgrade issue?
From Acer's website and its Win7 upgrade partner, North America's online application ends on Feb 15th. However, a call to Acer's customer service doesn't hurt. For them, a upgrade disc is almost free.
Or, can we order a recovery disc??? I think Vista is not available and Win7 is the only choice. Ask if we can, get a Win7 recovery disc as the way to go Win7 (e.x. order a current 1410's recovery disc, with Win7 pre-installed)??
I cannot do this cus I am at work, no SN with me. I was able to get a online chat agent, he said he's only working for Aspire One customer and ask me for SN. And, no SN, no service. Wahhh~~~
Anyone call and post feedback here is very appreciated. Remember to write down the name of the CSR and if a good decision made, other RFDers can follow...
Thanks. I don't think my local Stable is so nice to promise me a free Win7 package. The largest possibility comes from Acer for Win7 upgrade.

ignoreme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 03:11 PM
Good suggestion, can you call Acer? I will do that too.

AS1410 is qualified for Win7 upgrade. The only thing is the online application, or so-called "Win7 upgrade program" is over.
But it doesn't mean you cannot do it, case by case. Acer would like you to keep your lovely machine (they need your purchase not return). So I believe a recovery disc, is very possible to get for free.

Call and talk it here. Acer Canada should know RFD and we can stand together as a ASS1410 Win7 upgrade group.

We just want what we deserve back, right?

sam100
Mar 2nd, 2010, 03:26 PM
AS1410 is qualified for Win7 upgrade. The only thing is the online application, or so-called "Win7 upgrade program" is over.
But it doesn't mean you cannot do it, case by case. Acer would like you to keep your lovely machine (they need your purchase not return). So I believe a recovery disc, is very possible to get for free.

Call and talk it here. Acer Canada should know RFD and we can stand together as a ASS1410 Win7 upgrade group.

We just want what we deserve back, right?


I have few Upgrade disc of similar meachine from Gateway with same specs and it includes Windows 7 Key as well. I can sell it for $40 PM me if anyone is interested

masterc
Mar 2nd, 2010, 03:31 PM
So, what's the rational for getting Win7 for free?

Its an incentive they are offering to sell off the older machines that used to qualify for the free upgrade prior to jan 31/ feb 15.
Supposedly, they have upgrade dics for all the machines in stock that qualify - Vista prem./ business/ or ultimate.

Whether they offer it to you is another story, as we see by this thread. Some stores are using it as an incentive to upsell the bronze packages etc.

vpower
Mar 2nd, 2010, 03:32 PM
You can see from Acer's website...download a 1810T's specification...

I lalready checked the website.. Only show the specification of the battery:

Power Supply & Battery ACPI 3.0 CPU power management standard: supports Standby and Hibernation power-saving modes
62.16 W 5600 mAh 6-cell Li-ion battery pack:
• up to 8-hour battery life
30 W AC adapter
ENERGY STAR® 5.0

I was looking for the battery model so I can try to order it from Acer.

mtlboy
Mar 2nd, 2010, 03:38 PM
AS1410 is qualified for Win7 upgrade. The only thing is the online application, or so-called "Win7 upgrade program" is over.
But it doesn't mean you cannot do it, case by case. Acer would like you to keep your lovely machine (they need your purchase not return). So I believe a recovery disc, is very possible to get for free.

Call and talk it here. Acer Canada should know RFD and we can stand together as a ASS1410 Win7 upgrade group.

We just want what we deserve back, right?


I am on board, please tell us how things go, I rather Windows 7 than Vista

Mepoor
Mar 2nd, 2010, 03:51 PM
I've managed to snag 2 more Black units NIB with Win7HP from another Staples with free USB replicator. These are not demos, but the store has already opened the units to complete the Vista to Win7HP upgrade and Bronze packaged them at an extra fee of $89. Total price $440.xx with taxes each. This store would not do the free Win7HP for some reason without the full Bronze price, so at least I got the Win7HP included in the $89 (installed for free though :-) ).

If other friends / family members don't want them then I may offer them up. Will advise... If you are interested them maybe PM me for potential pick-up in the Hwy 400/Hwy 89 area (north of Toronto).

komal
Mar 2nd, 2010, 04:27 PM
I called Acer when the unit was still at $350 and this thread didn't even exist yet, and they wouldn't provide any upgrade to Win7. The actual Win7 program is over. The Win7 upgrade was free because MS made it free but MS also set limits on the program, namely that purchase had to be made by Jan 31, and for that reason all the of manufacturer's deadlines for the program are in Feb and March. MS isn't providing free upgrade discs forever.

Most people will also find it very difficult to get past the intial support agents, they can't do much of anything for you.

I'm surprised some units have Win7 though. I am wondering whether those units are being upgraded because Acer shipped discs out or whether they are being upgraded because Staples had some Win7 keys laying around. Maybe the units are supposed to be upgraded as a value added service so Staples can increase the price, in which case maybe some stores didn't realize that and didn't increase the price.

dgege
Mar 2nd, 2010, 04:41 PM
I as able to snag 2 units, one new and one demo. Was able to get 2 x USB replicator, but no dice for Windows 7. I'll try calling Acer when I get the chance, doesn't hurt.

Thanks OP!

antihero
Mar 2nd, 2010, 05:11 PM
Nice job hoarding!


I've managed to snag 2 more Black units NIB with Win7HP from another Staples with free USB replicator. These are not demos, but the store has already opened the units to complete the Vista to Win7HP upgrade and Bronze packaged them at an extra fee of $89. Total price $440.xx with taxes each. This store would not do the free Win7HP for some reason without the full Bronze price, so at least I got the Win7HP included in the $89 (installed for free though :-) ).

If other friends / family members don't want them then I may offer them up. Will advise... If you are interested them maybe PM me for potential pick-up in the Hwy 400/Hwy 89 area (north of Toronto).

loonieryan
Mar 2nd, 2010, 05:28 PM
I think you are confusing CCCP with KLITE. My machine is far from polluted.

I'm not confusing anything. Codec packs in general are bad. I'm a frequent poster/helper on the AVS and MediaPortal forums and there are so many incidences of people having problems with video playback. Those problems always disappear when folks on the forums advise uninstalling the codec packs.

See here for more details: http://www.howtogeek.com/wiki/Why_Codec_Packs_Are_Bad

Oilers#1fan
Mar 2nd, 2010, 05:52 PM
That's a different model, it has the Intel SU4100 (dual core) instead of the SU3500 (singe core) that come with the one being talked about in this thread.

These are really great little machines. I picked up a brand new blue one three weeks ago @ $347 for my sister and she couldn't be happier with it. Since then, I had been seraching for one for myself and thanks to the OP, I was able to find a black open box unit at the milton location a few days ago for $299. I wish I had found out about the price drop a week ago...could have saved another $50 on the blue one. Oh well, still an awesome deal.

I bought one of these as well on Feb 9th at $347, did manage to get my win7hp upgrade kit mailed to me because the website didn't require a receipt and I ordered it before the Feb 15 deadline. Saw this thread and went back to Staples yesterday with my original receipt and they credited me the difference of $48+GST because they will price protect your product if purchased at staples for up to 30 days, it was explained to me that the 14 days price protection is only if a competitor's price drops so you should go there with your $347 receipt and get the difference back.

hagbard
Mar 2nd, 2010, 05:56 PM
So the Leamington store had two of these listed on the board. The sales guy tells me a better one is going on sale tomorrow for the same price. Its a 10" netbook with an Atom processor, I point this out. He says "OH?!". He first goes to check for the first one (as far as he knows, the only one) and comes back and says "its gone". I point out the second, he comes back and says "they're both marked as defective". Hummmm? ....And why are they on the board?? Anyone else think a certain Staples saleman is going home with a couple of computer deals tonight?

Can get me one from Bradford. I pass.

madamadakun
Mar 2nd, 2010, 06:22 PM
Wow, is the deal that good people are buying multiple units? I got one myself, it is making me regret I should of took the other one.

Anyhow, just called Acer. No upgrade. The guy told me the deadline was Feb. 15 and I would have to get the upgrade from a retailer.

P.S. I really don't like their automatic voice system.

ignoreme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 07:13 PM
So the Leamington store had two of these listed on the board. The sales guy tells me a better one is going on sale tomorrow for the same price. Its a 10" netbook with an Atom processor, I point this out. He says "OH?!". He first goes to check for the first one (as far as he knows, the only one) and comes back and says "its gone". I point out the second, he comes back and says "they're both marked as defective". Hummmm? ....And why are they on the board?? Anyone else think a certain Staples saleman is going home with a couple of computer deals tonight?

Can get me one from Bradford. I pass.

Another RFDer got a black one at the same store I bought mine, a little bit later. I stood by and saw the computer: there's 2 black and 1 red left. I asked to buy 2 black and after "checking" they said one is defective. So I asked for the red one, it's demo and seriously scratched. I just took the "good" black one.

The thing is, someone went there, based on the information I provided, asked the manager to take it out for a look....you know, it's just box-opened, everything is new....he bought it happily.

So, next time, if somebody declaim a defective, asked the manager to have a check.

eternalprize
Mar 2nd, 2010, 07:44 PM
I bought one unit yesterday but didn't receive the replicator. Would I be able to go back to staples and get one?

jimmyche
Mar 2nd, 2010, 07:57 PM
I bought one unit yesterday but didn't receive the replicator. Would I be able to go back to staples and get one?

Sure.

I brought my netbook 2 two days ago and got my usb replicator yesterday.
I think this promotion ends today so you better act quick.

If they say the replicator is not available for netbook, point them to the website.
I tried to apply the coupon with two of the netbooks at the $300 range and both works fine.

nerdonsite
Mar 2nd, 2010, 08:00 PM
I bought one of these as well on Feb 9th at $347, did manage to get my win7hp upgrade kit mailed to me because the website didn't require a receipt and I ordered it before the Feb 15 deadline. Saw this thread and went back to Staples yesterday with my original receipt and they credited me the difference of $48+GST because they will price protect your product if purchased at staples for up to 30 days, it was explained to me that the 14 days price protection is only if a competitor's price drops so you should go there with your $347 receipt and get the difference back.

I think you got lucky with that one. When I was there to buy the black one, the manager said that since it was past the 14 day return period, he couldn't give the refund. I may try my local store tomorrow though, see if they can give me the refund.

ciao
Mar 2nd, 2010, 08:01 PM
I bought one unit yesterday but didn't receive the replicator. Would I be able to go back to staples and get one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CfOYQRBkWg

don't get one just because it's free and said to be worth $89, but you should be able to get one if you went back, call the store in advance

masterc
Mar 2nd, 2010, 08:14 PM
I bought one unit yesterday but didn't receive the replicator. Would I be able to go back to staples and get one?

Yes, but do it today as the promo ends today (you'll need your receipt)

teddy
Mar 2nd, 2010, 08:27 PM
The store I went said no such promo. Where can I find the USB port replicator promo info? Thx.

jimmyche
Mar 2nd, 2010, 08:33 PM
The store I went said no such promo. Where can I find the USB port replicator promo info? Thx.

page two of the flyer.

http://staples.flyerservices.com/cached_images/pages/STAPR_27d5dc4e-f2ff-4179-90fc-ef4cfbbaf3e0_101_Feb_24_pg_2%20EW.jpg

madamadakun
Mar 2nd, 2010, 08:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CfOYQRBkWg

don't get one just because it's free and said to be worth $89, but you should be able to get one if you went back, call the store in advance

+1
I have the replicator too but not going to use it. Didn't find it that useful.

I was at one of the staples for the Win 7. I told them I purchase a laptop back on Sunday and they told me that if I bring back the laptop for a setup installation (probably the Bronze package) for $89, they will do the Win 7 for me. I should of negotiate that I rather pay the extended warranty and get a upgrade instead.

So win7 for $89..what to do...

Mepoor
Mar 2nd, 2010, 09:44 PM
Nice job hoarding!not hoarding Newb, just looking after me peeps. If you had any you'd know what I mean.

Everyone who sees this thing falls in love with it... it's pretty awesome for $299! I actually need 3 or 4 more to keep everyone happy :cheesygri

For the record Newb, the deal has been out there for almost a week now. 5 days have passed before I started poking around for another unit and ended up finding 2 NIB's in less than 5 minutes at a store within 45 minutes of Toronto... Go figure - you rookies need to learn some detective skills! ;) I was as surprized as anyone else to find these units still available, and with no hassles or pissy Managers... if you don't go get them then others will.

Let me know if you want one and I'll be sure to put you at the top of the waiting list.:rolleyes:
For a RFD Newb you should do more reading and less posting...

On a other note... I have to say that Staples has been a pleasure to deal with during this fun little exercise. Props to the two store Managers and sales staff that helped arrange these purchases. Everything went off without a hitch. Everyone I encounter was very helpful and courtious. I was even allowed to use the same on-line $20 Coupon code against each of these babies. Sweet deal indeed. I figured I saved a ton on these. It's like Christmas in March!
cheers

WildParadise
Mar 2nd, 2010, 09:47 PM
snagged one red, demo, -5%

loonieryan
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:09 PM
On a other note... I have to say that Staples has been a pleasure to deal with during this fun little exercise. Props to the two store Managers and sales staff that helped arrange these purchases. Everything went off without a hitch. Everyone I encounter was very helpful and courtious. I was even allowed to use the same on-line $20 Coupon code against each of these babies. Sweet deal indeed. I figured I saved a ton on these. It's like Christmas in March!
cheers

They actually let you use the $20 coupon? My experience with Bureau en Gros here in QC has been the exact opposite!

The first unit I bought was a demo and the store manager refused to give me any kind of discount. The second unit I bought was new but had the bronze package which I didn't wanna pay for. I had to argue with the idiot rep to convince him that it's a discontinued model and he was telling me their system shows that they were still expecting more on the way. Eventually a smarter cashier showed up and proved him wrong so they sold it to me without the bronze fee. However they wouldn't throw in the replicator cuz apparently that's only for the purchase of a "notebook". I didn't wanna argue more so I let it go.

I didn't even bother trying to use the $20 coupon, however in hindsight I should've tried. Oh well... I wonder if I can go back with my receipt and use the coupon.

jefferson998
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:11 PM
I bought one of these as well on Feb 9th at $347, did manage to get my win7hp upgrade kit mailed to me because the website didn't require a receipt and I ordered it before the Feb 15 deadline. Saw this thread and went back to Staples yesterday with my original receipt and they credited me the difference of $48+GST because they will price protect your product if purchased at staples for up to 30 days, it was explained to me that the 14 days price protection is only if a competitor's price drops so you should go there with your $347 receipt and get the difference back.

Thanks for posting. I got mine 30 days ago and stopped into Staples on the weekend and was told that I missed out on the refund because it wasn't within 14 days. I went back tonight after seeing your post and was able to get a refund of $53.12. Spoke to the manager this time. Very easy to deal with - great overall experience with Staples on this purchase.

Hexxed
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:14 PM
Picked up the Gateway model months ago for a few bucks more and love it. Called around a few stores in the Okanagan region today to find one for my parents but a no go. Not even sure any stores in this area even had any. The US site is still selling it for $449 US so that gives you a good idea on how good a deal this was.

On a side note, is it just me or are computer prices lower here than our southern neighbors these days? Looking online for some deals in Texas and they're better out here. Sad...

brule
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:17 PM
Another RFDer got a black one at the same store I bought mine, a little bit later. I stood by and saw the computer: there's 2 black and 1 red left. I asked to buy 2 black and after "checking" they said one is defective. So I asked for the red one, it's demo and seriously scratched. I just took the "good" black one.

The thing is, someone went there, based on the information I provided, asked the manager to take it out for a look....you know, it's just box-opened, everything is new....he bought it happily.

So, next time, if somebody declaim a defective, asked the manager to have a check.

I assume your talking about me.. I know I've had systems marked as defective, until they reset the software (reinstall windows). Last year, when I got an MSI Wind, I had this same issue, and I ended up having to drive across Ottawa to get it.

When I went a few days ago, I specifically asked about the red system (as per your suggestion), but was told they could only find the black one.. I didn't know I was going to get a black one.. or that it was even available.. Sorry man!

ignoreme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:22 PM
not hoarding Newb, just looking after me peeps. If you had any you'd know what I mean.

Everyone who sees this thing falls in love with it... it's pretty awesome for $299! I actually need 3 or 4 more to keep everyone happy :cheesygri

For the record Newb, the deal has been out there for over a week now. 7 days have passed before I started poking around for another unit and ended up finding 2 NIB's in less than 5 minutes at a store within 45 minutes of Toronto... Go figure - you rookies need to learn some detective skills! ;) I was as surprized as anyone else to find these units still available, and with no hassles or pissy Managers... if you don't go get them then others will.

Let me know if you want one and I'll be sure to put you at the top of the waiting list.:rolleyes:
For a RFD Newb you should do more reading and less posting...

On a other note... I have to say that Staples has been a pleasure to deal with during this fun little exercise. Props to the two store Managers and sales staff that helped arrange these purchases. Everything went off without a hitch. Everyone I encounter was very helpful and courtious. I was even allowed to use the same on-line $20 Coupon code against each of these babies. Sweet deal indeed. I figured I saved a ton on these. It's like Christmas in March!
cheers

Nice! they accept online coupon! Could you PM me which store it is??

eternalprize
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:27 PM
Update, I went to a different staples and the "technician" there gave me a hard time about the replicator. Said the 1410 wasn't a notebook and was in fact a netbook. Insisted and after showing them the acer site, and proving them wrong, got my replicator :)

Haz
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:29 PM
Been looking for one for while. Sucks I haven't found one but probably for the better since I have way too many computers already.

ciao
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:36 PM
Update, I went to a different staples and the "technician" there gave me a hard time about the replicator. Said the 1410 wasn't a notebook and was in fact a netbook. Insisted and after showing them the acer site, and proving them wrong, got my replicator :)

http://us.acer.com/acer/product_detail.do?slot21e=%01&slot30e_presel=%01&slot44e_presel=%01&slot11e=%01&slot42e=%01&slot36e=%01&slot32e=%01&slot45e_presel=%01&slot34e_presel=%01&slot4e_presel=%01&slot6e_presel=%01&slot42e_presel=%01&slot22e=%01&slot49e_presel=%01&par244e=152&slot32e_presel=%01&slot22e_presel=%01&link=oln108e.redirect&slot20e_presel=%01&slot37e_presel=%01&slot34e=%01&slot38e=%01&slot44e=%01&slot40e_presel=%01&slot1e_presel=%01&slot1e=%01&slot10e_presel=%01&slot36e_presel=%01&slot20e=%01&slot8e_presel=%01&slot14e=%01&slot47e_presel=%01&slot11e_presel=%01&slot33e=%01&slot2e_presel=%01&slot43e=%01&slot37e=%01&CRC=2753032444

ignoreme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 10:37 PM
I assume your talking about me.. I know I've had systems marked as defective, until they reset the software (reinstall windows). Last year, when I got an MSI Wind, I had this same issue, and I ended up having to drive across Ottawa to get it.

When I went a few days ago, I specifically asked about the red system (as per your suggestion), but was told they could only find the black one.. I didn't know I was going to get a black one.. or that it was even available.. Sorry man!

No sorry buddy, you deserve it. You are an experienced Staple shopper. I will have a visit back to my homeland and I really need some light but with a little value gifts. My nephew need one, my dad need one...

I went to that store today and got the HP USB replicator. No one will buy it if priced at $89. Should be $19, and clearance at $5.99. Anyway I will give it to my friends.

Ask the manager for Win7 discs, he said if he had any more...but, he continuously mentioned that, they use the additional one to install the computer at higher price...my $299 has no chance...

I sent an email to Acer, with a photo showing my demo Red one's scratch. See what will happen. I hope they would replace mine with a new version, SU4100! That will be too good to believe....Anyway my purpose is getting it fixed and maybe a Win7 upgrade. If they refuse me, considering return, with the so-called $89 "free gift".

ECBomb
Mar 2nd, 2010, 11:11 PM
So i called up Staples and found the last one in my region (it's a black one). Then I ask them the price of it just to confirm and the guy tells me it's $390 plus taxes. He says that it's including the system (the Win7 upgrade people have been talking about on here). I don't like the fact that they force it into the package...$100 more than what I was expecting to pay for is not a good deal lol. I'd much rather stick with the Vista Premium for the $299 price tag. So...SCREW YOU STAPLES!

ignoreme
Mar 2nd, 2010, 11:23 PM
So i called up Staples and found the last one in my region (it's a black one). Then I ask them the price of it just to confirm and the guy tells me it's $390 plus taxes. He says that it's including the system (the Win7 upgrade people have been talking about on here). I don't like the fact that they force it into the package...$100 more than what I was expecting to pay for is not a good deal lol. I'd much rather stick with the Vista Premium for the $299 price tag. So...SCREW YOU STAPLES!

You have rights to ask them to take it off.
The Win7 discs, mentioned by many RFDers, actually comes from computer manufacture, with an agreement to help Staples, BB, FS to sell their computers, say as a "in-store upgrade". Staples can charge or not, up to them.

So, as many refuse a package, just bought the computer, Win7 disc left. If your local Staples' nice, you will get one for free (and it's free originally).

When I was in the store tonight, I was beside a mum who purchase a $499 HP G60 with Vista, and was "introdued" a Win7 package, 2 year warranty including battery warranty. The price is $169, get a $40 discount. She seems very happy though...So, Win7 disc is there, but they just don't want to give me for free...

eternalprize
Mar 2nd, 2010, 11:44 PM
When I was in the store tonight, I was beside a mum who purchase a $499 HP G60 with Vista, and was "introdued" a Win7 package, 2 year warranty including battery warranty. The price is $169, get a $40 discount. She seems very happy though...So, Win7 disc is there, but they just don't want to give me for free...

The guy at my staples tried to push the warranty on me and got visibly angry when I refused. I can't stand that.

Some people are blind regarding warranties, they don't realize that it's pure BS.

ECBomb
Mar 3rd, 2010, 12:00 AM
You have rights to ask them to take it off.
The Win7 discs, mentioned by many RFDers, actually comes from computer manufacture, with an agreement to help Staples, BB, FS to sell their computers, say as a "in-store upgrade". Staples can charge or not, up to them.

So, as many refuse a package, just bought the computer, Win7 disc left. If your local Staples' nice, you will get one for free (and it's free originally).

When I was in the store tonight, I was beside a mum who purchase a $499 HP G60 with Vista, and was "introdued" a Win7 package, 2 year warranty including battery warranty. The price is $169, get a $40 discount. She seems very happy though...So, Win7 disc is there, but they just don't want to give me for free...

lol ya, but it's too late now to go pick it up, maybe i'll call them tomorrow morning and see if they still have it by then. i never knew it could be taken off. I'll give them a call tomorrow and see what happens. If they insist, then oh well, let them rip someone else off =)

thanks for the info!

asdisme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 12:01 AM
The guy at my staples tried to push the warranty on me and got visibly angry when I refused. I can't stand that.

Some people are blind regarding warranties, they don't realize that it's pure BS.

But isn't the warranty that they offer good? $69 for 2 years after the Manufacture's warranty. I'm debating if I should go back return the item and repurchase it with the warranty. As of now I have the 1 year manufacture and 1 year credit card, but I do not know if both warranty issuer will cover the battery, where the 2 year warranty offered by Staples does.

ignoreme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 12:09 AM
But isn't the warranty that they offer good? $69 for 2 years after the Manufacture's warranty. I'm debating if I should go back return the item and repurchase it with the warranty. As of now I have the 1 year manufacture and 1 year credit card, but I do not know if both warranty issuer will cover the battery, where the 2 year warranty offered by Staples does.

If the warranty includes battery replacement, it's fair. 6 cell battery cost this much though. And you will drain it in year and half if you use it very often. The best reward, you can get 2 times battery replacement (in 3 years), that's over value...I just doubt after three year you will throw this machine away.

asdisme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 12:14 AM
If the warranty includes battery replacement, it's fair. 6 cell battery cost this much though. And you will drain it in year and half if you use it very often. The best reward, you can get 2 times battery replacement (in 3 years), that's over value...I just doubt after three year you will throw this machine away.

So you'd recommend getting the $69 warranty from Staples? That will void my credit card warranty though.

Haz
Mar 3rd, 2010, 12:16 AM
lol ya, but it's too late now to go pick it up, maybe i'll call them tomorrow morning and see if they still have it by then. i never knew it could be taken off. I'll give them a call tomorrow and see what happens. If they insist, then oh well, let them rip someone else off =)

thanks for the info!Some stores will take it off, others will not. It's YMMV.

ntsckk
Mar 3rd, 2010, 12:17 AM
got this Email from ACER
Response (Abin_GWSI661) - 03/02/2010 08:18 PM
Dear XX,

Thank you for contacting Acer America. I’ll be happy to assist you.

As per your mail, I understand that you need free Windows 7 upgrade.

I have verified your serial number and found that your serial number is not registered and is under warranty.

Please be informed that, For US & Canada customers the ability to place an order on the mentor site for the Windows 7 upgrade is February 15th 2010.Please check the following details and revert.

Please go through the following link it will help you to register your product in our database << https://secure3.tx.acer.com/FindSystem/FindSystem.aspx?title=Register%20Your%20System >>.

For further clarifications please feel free to visit our web site http://support.acer.com/.

Have a great day!

Respectfully,
Acer America
Online Technical Support

:(:mad:

bigbug
Mar 3rd, 2010, 12:29 AM
I called the Staples at 1st Markham earlier in the morning, and got a confirmation that I'd be able to pickup a windows 7 dvd for free. But when I arrived at the store, the manager said there has NEVER been any free windows 7 upgrade DVD available in Staples, and what I was told was either my misunderstanding or miscommunication %$@!$%@#$% WTF! Was she lying? Did anyone called customer service to confirm? :evil:

ignoreme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 12:38 AM
I called the Staples at 1st Markham earlier in the morning, and got a confirmation that I'd be able to pickup a windows 7 dvd for free. But when I arrived at the store, the manager said there has NEVER been any free windows 7 upgrade DVD available in Staples, and what I was told was either my misunderstanding or miscommunication %$@!$%@#$% WTF! Was she lying? Did anyone called customer service to confirm? :evil:

You have the name of their people who gave you the confirmation? Again, always write down this, name, time, result. Will help you to argue.

ejohan
Mar 3rd, 2010, 12:39 AM
You have rights to ask them to take it off.
The Win7 discs, mentioned by many RFDers, actually comes from computer manufacture, with an agreement to help Staples, BB, FS to sell their computers, say as a "in-store upgrade". Staples can charge or not, up to them.

This particular Windows 7 upgrade is directly from Microsoft sold to Staples to allow them to sell their clearance inventory easier. It's different from the manufacturer's upgrade offers that were going when Windows 7 first came out until mid-last month.

The Staples Win 7 upgrade packaging says right on it "Must be installed by PC Technician." Hence why they want to charge you the bronze package fee. Also it's an upgrade disk, so you need Vista recovery disks as well if you ever want to reload the OS.

This Windows 7 software is property of Staples and stores only get a very limited quantity of it, so they have discretion on which computers they will install it on.

Just FYI for anyone who's upset about not getting it for free. :)


I called the Staples at 1st Markham earlier in the morning, and got a confirmation that I'd be able to pickup a windows 7 dvd for free. But when I arrived at the store, the manager said there has NEVER been any free windows 7 upgrade DVD available in Staples, and what I was told was either my misunderstanding or miscommunication %$@!$%@#$% WTF! Was she lying? Did anyone called customer service to confirm? :evil:

You are not normally able to get these offers post-sale. This software is intended to be pre-loaded on to computers before sale. This promotion is not advertised by Staples (at least above the store level) and is only offered in limited quantities, so was never your 'right' to get it. YMMV basically. :)

ignoreme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 12:59 AM
got this Email from ACER
Response (Abin_GWSI661) - 03/02/2010 08:18 PM
Dear XX,

Thank you for contacting Acer America. I’ll be happy to assist you.

As per your mail, I understand that you need free Windows 7 upgrade.

I have verified your serial number and found that your serial number is not registered and is under warranty.

Please be informed that, For US & Canada customers the ability to place an order on the mentor site for the Windows 7 upgrade is February 15th 2010.Please check the following details and revert.

Please go through the following link it will help you to register your product in our database << https://secure3.tx.acer.com/FindSystem/FindSystem.aspx?title=Register%20Your%20System >>.

For further clarifications please feel free to visit our web site http://support.acer.com/.

Have a great day!

Respectfully,
Acer America
Online Technical Support

:(:mad:

Bad news. You don't have access to manager, that's the reason. Technical support has nothing to do with your request. Try call and transfer to manager?

As mine is scratched, I hope someone can go out to have a look...And call...I didn't take the SN number with me so I cannot call for service today.

The bottom line, try if we can get a recovery disc. Ask if its Win7 first though.

I don't think Vista is continuously provided. FS tried to buy me a Vista HP recovery disc last year August but was refused. FS finally gave me a free Win7 HP, a $25 in-store cash card, and an apologize letter. That's the only thing I feel good about FS's customer service (NO in-store, but online one).

ECBomb
Mar 3rd, 2010, 01:00 AM
just an update. i ended up calling up the same staples again and the customer service lady was very nice. she told me that the netbook is on clearance for $299. and since it's only showing 1 in stock, she did mention that it's most likely that it's a demo or used to be a demo.

so i guess there ARE nice and informative people working at staples, just not enough haha. guess i'll be saving my money for another netbook then.

eree8
Mar 3rd, 2010, 01:38 AM
To all who want free Win7 upgrade:

so, Acer promo for free W7 upgrade is over, and probably no way to get it.

I picked up open box red unit , looks like brand new, and do quick check.

The bios of this unit has slic 2.1.

I don't want to mention about this further, but there is a WAY !

Google is ur fantastic friend. Good luck. :cheesygri

komal
Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:36 AM
To all who want free Win7 upgrade:

so, Acer promo for free W7 upgrade is over, and probably no way to get it.

I picked up open box red unit , looks like brand new, and do quick check.

The bios of this unit has slic 2.1.

I don't want to mention about this further, but there is a WAY !

Google is ur fantastic friend. Good luck. :cheesygri

Anybody can get a cracked copy of windows 7, but that is stupid since there is an update coming this month that makes Win7 phone home to verify authenticity every 90 days. You can turn off updates but Win7 hasn't even had one service pack yet, so bugs will pop up and you won't get them fixed.

ignoreme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 03:02 AM
Anybody can get a cracked copy of windows 7, but that is stupid since there is an update coming this month that makes Win7 phone home to verify authenticity every 90 days. You can turn off updates but Win7 hasn't even had one service pack yet, so bugs will pop up and you won't get them fixed.

You can legally use Win7, for up to 120 days. Then, do something on your computer, you get 120 days again...legally...if you are really tight

consumerPI
Mar 3rd, 2010, 03:05 AM
Thanks to this thread, I was able to go back, get a $47 plus tax credit and grab an $89 (what a joke that price is) HP USB Port Replicator.

Not bad at all, but that HP USB Port Replicator is worth maybe $10. Whoever pays $100 after tax for that piece of plastic junk should be ashamed! Seriously, it's a joke.

ignoreme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 03:17 AM
I also have a Win7 upgrade disc from Compaq. I assume the SN for upgrade doesn't matter which brand the computer is? It's a unique code, one time active, not a OEM version which asks for BIOS check?

And I also remember I can clean install it (no SN input during the installation), then activate after? The thing is the SN is important, it's valid.

eree8
Mar 3rd, 2010, 04:35 AM
Anybody can get a cracked copy of windows 7, but that is stupid since there is an update coming this month that makes Win7 phone home to verify authenticity every 90 days. You can turn off updates but Win7 hasn't even had one service pack yet, so bugs will pop up and you won't get them fixed.

I wouldn't reply that info if it is that annoying , or stupid. So please google it first if you are insterested.

Technically, it is hard to say ILLEGAL. However, it's not totally legal using of windows operation system.

You need to know about the mechanism of win7 validation system before using slic 2.1 trick.

It is NOT cracking windows 7, but just using the preinstalled windows license.

Is it that bad to use 100% of the resources which was provided by manufacture?

I don't know. It's up to you. You need to do research and learn about that license if you want that.

If you don't like it, you can buy retail copy of Win7, or just use vista.

Vista is not really bad OS IMO.

I don't want to talk about this matter anymore. I just wanted to share a small hint. :!:

82
Mar 3rd, 2010, 08:36 AM
how did you get FS to give you a free Win7 Recovery disc and an apology?


Bad news. You don't have access to manager, that's the reason. Technical support has nothing to do with your request. Try call and transfer to manager?

As mine is scratched, I hope someone can go out to have a look...And call...I didn't take the SN number with me so I cannot call for service today.

The bottom line, try if we can get a recovery disc. Ask if its Win7 first though.

I don't think Vista is continuously provided. FS tried to buy me a Vista HP recovery disc last year August but was refused. FS finally gave me a free Win7 HP, a $25 in-store cash card, and an apologize letter. That's the only thing I feel good about FS's customer service (NO in-store, but online one).

antihero
Mar 3rd, 2010, 10:48 AM
Why so upset youpoor? Was just congratulating on hoarding enough units to yourself. I would love one for myself and my entire family tree too.

So was just asking where you picked your units and you'd only say a vague area (North of Toronto). I just don't understand why you'd post this deal and then not disclose where you may or may not have had success. )

Given how experienced you are in RFD, it would be reasonable to assume that you'd be an example of sharing information versus a lurking newbie like me, who's looking to save a little time by not having to call all the Staples in Ontario or at the very minimum knocking the location that you cleared out off the list.

Those are impressive skills you have! They should have a RFD designation called "Detective" - I nominate you to be the first!

Don't worry about your waiting list Batman - sounds like you need them a whole lot more than I do! I hope you and your clan enjoy your units.


not hoarding Newb, just looking after me peeps. If you had any you'd know what I mean.

Everyone who sees this thing falls in love with it... it's pretty awesome for $299! I actually need 3 or 4 more to keep everyone happy :cheesygri

For the record Newb, the deal has been out there for almost a week now. 5 days have passed before I started poking around for another unit and ended up finding 2 NIB's in less than 5 minutes at a store within 45 minutes of Toronto... Go figure - you rookies need to learn some detective skills! ;) I was as surprized as anyone else to find these units still available, and with no hassles or pissy Managers... if you don't go get them then others will.

Let me know if you want one and I'll be sure to put you at the top of the waiting list.:rolleyes:
For a RFD Newb you should do more reading and less posting...

On a other note... I have to say that Staples has been a pleasure to deal with during this fun little exercise. Props to the two store Managers and sales staff that helped arrange these purchases. Everything went off without a hitch. Everyone I encounter was very helpful and courtious. I was even allowed to use the same on-line $20 Coupon code against each of these babies. Sweet deal indeed. I figured I saved a ton on these. It's like Christmas in March!
cheers

VanillaPep
Mar 3rd, 2010, 10:54 AM
are these still on sales??

loonieryan
Mar 3rd, 2010, 11:03 AM
Anybody can get a cracked copy of windows 7, but that is stupid since there is an update coming this month that makes Win7 phone home to verify authenticity every 90 days. You can turn off updates but Win7 hasn't even had one service pack yet, so bugs will pop up and you won't get them fixed.

I don't condone using illegal copies of software, but just wanted to mention that the Windows "phone home" update is optional. You don't have to take the update if you don't want to and you can still take the critical/important updates.

ignoreme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 11:21 AM
are these still on sales??

2 weeks later, the price will possibly go down $50 more, but if you can find one.

Email to Acer totally failed.
My question: I picked up a demo AS1410, with scratch and dent on the monitor, can Acer do something about it?
Their answer:
cosmetic damage is not covered(if cosmetic means visible, great! it is!);
it's not a dent or dead pix (am I lying)?;
go for local technician (what does this mean? return?);
buy parts from our online store (hey, I didn't make it, should I pay for this?)

So funny. Let me call them and feed you guys back.

Called, and was...sad
I cannot have a manager who can make a decision. There is level one and level two CSR. I reached level two twice, the first guy seems not sleeping well and said he can do nothing but I need to pay for it. The second mam is not sleepy but the answer is better: she know nothing about the charge, it depends on the checking technician and will be informed in advance if I should pay. And it's my option to send it to Acer or not. When I mentioned "return" they technically avoided saying "yes".

Cost me some 50 mins. Not worth it. That's not good. Remember guys, it's cheap, so the service. I was told no one can change it, it's the final decison (they don't have more money for some "manager" I guess). So, as I will return it, I will do some test on it with OEM Acer Win7...O, don't forget the free $89 gift!

ignoreme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 11:24 AM
I don't condone using illegal copies of software, but just wanted to mention that the Windows "phone home" update is optional. You don't have to take the update if you don't want to and you can still take the critical/important updates.

Hi, loonieyan, is this OK if I install a download Win7 and use a valid upgrade Win7 SN for Acer's but it comes from HP??

komal
Mar 3rd, 2010, 11:44 AM
Hi, loonieyan, is this OK if I install a download Win7 and use a valid upgrade Win7 SN for Acer's but it comes from HP??

The source doesn't matter. The key matters.

loonieryan
Mar 3rd, 2010, 12:00 PM
Hi, loonieyan, is this OK if I install a download Win7 and use a valid upgrade Win7 SN for Acer's but it comes from HP??


The source doesn't matter. The key matters.

^^
What he said

komal
Mar 3rd, 2010, 12:26 PM
I wouldn't reply that info if it is that annoying , or stupid. So please google it first if you are insterested.

Technically, it is hard to say ILLEGAL. However, it's not totally legal using of windows operation system.

You need to know about the mechanism of win7 validation system before using slic 2.1 trick.

It is NOT cracking windows 7, but just using the preinstalled windows license.

Is it that bad to use 100% of the resources which was provided by manufacture?

I don't know. It's up to you. You need to do research and learn about that license if you want that.

If you don't like it, you can buy retail copy of Win7, or just use vista.

Vista is not really bad OS IMO.

I don't want to talk about this matter anymore. I just wanted to share a small hint. :!:
I'll admit I didn't initially understand the method you were referring to, but even with an OEM install you are using a Win7 key, and if Microsoft decides to disable a key or require more information, they can.
Interesting, but I wonder if the key will be barred from updates or stuff like that in the future.

Mepoor
Mar 3rd, 2010, 12:27 PM
... given how experienced you are in RFD, it would be reasonable to assume that you'd be an example of sharing information versus a lurking newbie like me... ... well, I did start this thread so that's how one shares information with others. I could have left the deal buried but that would not have been very helpful to the dozens of folks here who actually did some detective work themselves and found what they were looking for. Unfortunately, lurkers do nothing for the betterment of the site - they just tend to complain and take cheap shots - like you.

But no worries Newb - you're a young RFD'er and so here's a free tip for you: stop relying on others so much. One day you may realize that the harder you work the luckier you get.

My friend, just so I don't upset you anymore than I have, if by chance I stumble upon more units can I have your permission to buy them? Please, pretty please?!? :rolleyes:

joey003
Mar 3rd, 2010, 01:05 PM
I'll admit I didn't initially understand the method you were referring to, but even with an OEM install you are using a Win7 key, and if Microsoft decides to disable a key or require more information, they can.
Interesting, but I wonder if the key will be barred from updates or stuff like that in the future.

with the method he's talking about the key can never really be "banned" or "blacklisted". well MS could if they wanted, but then all computers shipped from that OEM would suddenly be using a blacklisted key.

ignoreme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 01:11 PM
with the method he's talking about the key can never really be "banned" or "blacklisted". well MS could if they wanted, but then all computers shipped from that OEM would suddenly be using a blacklisted key.

Do you mean the OEM key will not be banned by MS, because other legal users are packed in one boat!? :) and technically, the use of Acer OEM version is even flawless---it's a real Acer, then, qualified!

antihero
Mar 3rd, 2010, 01:27 PM
Dear Detective Mepoor

Appears a bit more like you wanted bragging rights more than anything - if you were there to really help and be as "altruistic" as you claim, you would have shared your location. RFD is a great site, but it appears that it's your life, so sorry for stepping on your little empire. Regardless, the fact that you're still a HOARDER. (Just as an aside - I personally don't think there's anything wrong with it).

Thanks for the tip - but I think I'll stick to plan and lurk and let you do the hard work.

I didn't know that going on the Staples website for a list of stores and calling them up or visiting the stores constitutes detective work. Maybe you should apply to the homicide unit for the police "north of toronto' - your "detective" skills may be handy...haha...

And yes please send me in writing all your intentions of purchasing additional units. Have the requistions faxed to me and ensure that I have given you approval, before you transact. Although seems as though you're poor enough already, so not sure if you can afford to buy more.


... well, I did start this thread so that's how one shares information with others. I could have left the deal buried but that would not have been very helpful to the dozens of folks here who actually did some detective work themselves and found what they were looking for. Unfortunately, lurkers do nothing for the betterment of the site - they just tend to complain and take cheap shots - like you.

But no worries Newb - you're a young RFD'er and so here's a free tip for you: stop relying on others so much. One day you may realize that the harder you work the luckier you get.

My friend, just so I don't upset you anymore than I have, if by chance I stumble upon more units can I have your permission to buy them? Please, pretty please?!? :rolleyes:

joey003
Mar 3rd, 2010, 01:33 PM
Do you mean the OEM key will not be banned by MS, because other legal users are packed in one boat!? :) and technically, the use of Acer OEM version is even flawless---it's a real Acer, then, qualified!

that right :)

clergykid
Mar 3rd, 2010, 01:36 PM
great deal wish I got one :(

MichaelPublic
Mar 3rd, 2010, 01:43 PM
found netbook

jimmyche
Mar 3rd, 2010, 01:51 PM
Dear Detective Mepoor

And yes please send me in writing all your intentions of purchasing additional units. Have the requistions faxed to me and ensure that I have given you approval, before you transact. Although seems as though you're poor enough already, so not sure if you can afford to buy more.

Please share your address and fax number so we can all submit our request to purchase additional unit. Furthermore, if there's a 24 hour hot line, it's appreciated if you may provide that as well.

Sincerely,

loonieryan
Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:02 PM
Dear Detective Mepoor

Appears a bit more like you wanted bragging rights more than anything - if you were there to really help and be as "altruistic" as you claim, you would have shared your location. RFD is a great site, but it appears that it's your life, so sorry for stepping on your little empire. Regardless, the fact that you're still a HOARDER. (Just as an aside - I personally don't think there's anything wrong with it).

Thanks for the tip - but I think I'll stick to plan and lurk and let you do the hard work.

I didn't know that going on the Staples website for a list of stores and calling them up or visiting the stores constitutes detective work. Maybe you should apply to the homicide unit for the police "north of toronto' - your "detective" skills may be handy...haha...

And yes please send me in writing all your intentions of purchasing additional units. Have the requistions faxed to me and ensure that I have given you approval, before you transact. Although seems as though you're poor enough already, so not sure if you can afford to buy more.

You're a big douche! Huge newb douche!

Instead of thanking Mepoor for sharing this deal you go and call him a "hoarder"??? What is wrong with you? Get yourself checked out man!

Huge thanks to Mepoor (the OP) for sharing this deal. I was looking for this exact same model laptop as a gift for my wife and you made it possible by posting this on RFD, which I otherwise would have completely missed out on.

Thanks Mepoor! Try to ignore the douches on RFD...

Mepoor
Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:09 PM
Ok Newb. Time for a truce. You started it with your little jab, now let me end it with some nicities:


Appears a bit more like you wanted bragging rights hey, it's been a great thread for the most part. I don't mind taking some credit. You can formally thank me if you like by pressing the Thanks icon...


RFD is a great site, but it appears that it's your life just checked - 0.71 posts per day over 8 years. Pretty low count I'd say in comparison to the hardcore folks. I will admit I take a quick peek at page 1 of the Hot Deals pretty much every day. hence my nickname ;)


you're still a HOARDER. (Just as an aside - I personally don't think there's anything wrong with it). I personally believe there's plenty wrong with hoarding if you are truly hoarding, which I don't think I am doing. I didn't sell these units for a profit. I gave them to my kids for our upcoming March break vacation. They are loving them! I'm the best Dad... EVER! (I'll take whatever compliments I can get) :)


I think I'll stick to plan and lurk and let you do the hard work. Ugg - youth these days eh... To each there own I guess. Working hard for oneself used to be a good thing...


you should apply to the homicide unit for the police "north of toronto' - your "detective" skills may be handy...haha... Sarcastic comedy is not your strong point. and rarely funny - use it sparingly (another free tip for you).


...send me in writing all your intentions of purchasing additional units. Have the requistions faxed to me and ensure that I have given you approval... fax number? ;)

cheers my friend and happy lurking in the dark shadows...

eree8
Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:17 PM
I'll admit I didn't initially understand the method you were referring to, but even with an OEM install you are using a Win7 key, and if Microsoft decides to disable a key or require more information, they can.
Interesting, but I wonder if the key will be barred from updates or stuff like that in the future.

HAHA. That key will never ever be blocked, unless MS exchanges all PC's with

preloaded w7 for free.

ignoreme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:19 PM
Back to hoarders...

No hoarders. There's deal there and you dive in...the better the deal, the more difficulty you can reach. It's not winner's wrong, even they sell it for profit (my opinion only).

Remember, no one will let you go first if there is no traffic lights. Remember the big power-off day in 2003? There is no traffic lights for all these deals (some with limitation, some not). you buy as many as you like and remember: to avoid traffic dram, get up earlier.

eree8
Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:19 PM
One more funny thing was that some staples guys/girls know about

RFD. :cheesygri

It this the fact that everyone know except me ? :cheesygri:cheesygri

ignoreme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:24 PM
HAHA. That key will never ever be blocked, unless MS exchanges all PC's with

preloaded w7 for free.

For sure. Cost more, no reward, attracting RFDers fire, and worthless.

MS never get big money from retail market. Money comes from pre-installation of brand computer. Any argue if computer company choose Apples' or Linux, there is a war.

antihero
Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:26 PM
Don't get me wrong - all credit due for updating a deal from a couple of weeks ago.

Just saying that Detective Mepoor
1. never responded as to where he purchased his laptop (which is his right not to but likely to protect his option to purchase).
2. He purchases as many as seemed to be able to find, not sure if he intends to even use them all
3. and then has a waiting list (possibly)to resell.

If that doesn't meet the definition of hoarding - I don't know what does. Please define it for me. Didn't know that term was so inflammatory...seemed to hit a sore spot with some of you!

I was actually sincerly congratulating the man in my first post, but he seemed to take an offense and tried to take a bite out of me for being new.

Sorry that I'm not hardcore on the RFD forums - seems like a generational difference I guess - but in my world working smarter will always triumph over working harder. Welcome to the new millenium!

jimmyche
Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:35 PM
in my world working smarter will always triumph over working harder. Welcome to the new millenium!

Exactly,
The OP was smart enough to locate more units.
He's hard working enough to go thru all the trouble and obtained his rewards.

and what have you done?

In the real world, you need to work both smarter and harder.

Digbo
Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:36 PM
Don't get me wrong - all credit due for updating a deal from a couple of weeks ago.

Just saying that Detective Mepoor
1. never responded as to where he purchased his laptop (which is his right not to but likely to protect his option to purchase).
2. He purchases as many as seemed to be able to find, not sure if he intends to even use them all
3. and then has a waiting list (possibly)to resell.

If that doesn't meet the definition of hoarding - I don't know what does. Please define it for me. Didn't know that term was so inflammatory...seemed to hit a sore spot with some of you!

I was actually sincerly congratulating the man in my first post, but he seemed to take an offense and tried to take a bite out of me for being new.

Sorry that I'm not hardcore on the RFD forums - seems like a generational difference I guess - but in my world working smarter will always triumph over working harder. Welcome to the new millenium!


Spot on!

I hope people who buy multiple items based on a good deal for "friends and family" and then hope to sell it to the public after their "friends and family" don't want it, don't sell any of it.

loonieryan
Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:38 PM
Spot on!

I hope people who buy multiple items based on a good deal for "friends and family" and then hope to sell it to the public after their "friends and family" don't want it, don't sell any of it.

I'm selling a Ruby Red for $380, with an extra year warranty, fully memtested and HDTune tested. Has the bronze package from Staples. Let me know if you're interested

:D

strangelove9
Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:39 PM
OK, folks, time to break this quarrel up...

You're simply lengthening the thread, without any useful information.

Based on my RFD experience, this should be moved into the "Expired" section soon, seeing that the number of successful acquisition reports is dropping to zero.

HOWEVER, I think we should continue discussing this machine for a while - if anyone has stories or experiences to share (like, for instance, tips about the upgrade to Windows 7, or moving to 64-bit...) I encourage you to do so.

Thanks for the post, OP!

west
Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:40 PM
Guys, this is a great deal and all but deals like this come up quite often to be honest. So don't feel like you missed out just patiently wait for the next deal!

blainehamilton
Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:46 PM
I was hoping to pick one if these up at the $247/$197 clearance level, but it's doubtful it will EVER reach that point.

There are only a handful of demos out there or models with the rip off bronze package installed.

I think they will be snatched up long before the next price drop hits.

There will be other NETBOOKS at the $200-$300 level, but nothing anytime soon with SU3500 CPU, 3GB ram, 250GB hard drive, Premium OS, Wireless N, HD graphics, and HDMI output.

komal
Mar 3rd, 2010, 03:55 PM
with the method he's talking about the key can never really be "banned" or "blacklisted". well MS could if they wanted, but then all computers shipped from that OEM would suddenly be using a blacklisted key.

That is why I said MS could look for more info. The OEM key is only meant for certain laptops, and in a future update it could ask for more info to determine if the key is meant for the laptop or not.

SLIC settings can be pulled and put into a BIOS. But Windows can easily go beyond BIOS settings to check for a machine's authenticity.

But I do agree it seems unlikely, it just isn't impossible.

d_Ave
Mar 3rd, 2010, 04:05 PM
I found two of these as demo units. Which, surprisingly, doesn't mean any discount off the price. Still, $297. Blah. I passed. They were quite beat up, and without discrete graphics, I can wait. My opinion of course.

ignoreme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 04:07 PM
That is why I said MS could look for more info. The OEM key is only meant for certain laptops, and in a future update it could ask for more info to determine if the key is meant for the laptop or not.

SLIC settings can be pulled and put into a BIOS. But Windows can easily go beyond BIOS settings to check for a machine's authenticity.

But I do agree it seems unlikely, it just isn't impossible.

It's almost not possible to punish previous legal windows user, to catch this Win7 upgrade. I think MS should have a plan, say monthly rent?? 25C for basic, 50C for HP, 75C for bussiness, $1 for U??

komal
Mar 3rd, 2010, 04:11 PM
It's almost not possible to punish previous legal windows user, to catch this Win7 upgrade. I think MS should have a plan, say monthly rent?? 25C for basic, 50C for HP, 75C for bussiness, $1 for U??

There are only a couple of keys being used in SLIC mods, which limits the amount of damage caused to legit users. The more important thing is that once a key is found, it is no longer used by the mfg. so that really limits the amount of computers running a stolen key.

Also MS has indicated that they have methods of detecting the mods, so who knows, they could be bluffing or they might force an update to disable stolen copies.

komal
Mar 3rd, 2010, 04:13 PM
I found two of these as demo units. Which, surprisingly, doesn't mean any discount off the price. Still, $297. Blah. I passed. They were quite beat up, and without discrete graphics, I can wait. My opinion of course.

I've said in previous threads on the 1410 I'd take a demo over open box. Demos don't get thrown around, usually locked down, and the battery isn't used. I'm skeptical that you found demos that looked beat up, since almost all the laptops of this size get locked down in a half cage, which keeps customers from moving them.

d_Ave
Mar 3rd, 2010, 04:21 PM
I've said in previous threads on the 1410 I'd take a demo over open box. Demos don't get thrown around, usually locked down, and the battery isn't used. I'm skeptical that you found demos that looked beat up, since almost all the laptops of this size get locked down in a half cage, which keeps customers from moving them.

You're skeptical? Really, are you serious? This is what I do, just come around posting on forums useless information.

Yes -- it was locked, but you could still pick it up. At this particular staples the metal shelving units are so close together that you have to twist the laptop around just to get a good look at it. The stickers were all faded and ripped (including the Windows serial one) There were some scratches by the track pad. Obviously it works, but if a new one and a demo one go for the same price, it's not as good a deal.

The point about the battery is well taken. I think the same thing.

ECBomb
Mar 3rd, 2010, 04:43 PM
You're skeptical? Really, are you serious? This is what I do, just come around posting on forums useless information.

Yes -- it was locked, but you could still pick it up. At this particular staples the metal shelving units are so close together that you have to twist the laptop around just to get a good look at it. The stickers were all faded and ripped (including the Windows serial one) There were some scratches by the track pad. Obviously it works, but if a new one and a demo one go for the same price, it's not as good a deal.

The point about the battery is well taken. I think the same thing.

i called one staples and they only had 1 in stock left, which they said would most likely be a demo, so i saved myself a 1.5 hour drive there and back lol (even though that would've only been about $5 worth of gas for me).

But I too think that demo's aren't that good of a deal EVEN if they're $50 cheaper from a NIB. The $50 difference isn't enough to justify for the state of the machine. Everyone can type, cough, sneeze, spit, drool (i know i'm being extreme) on the demo. Besides, I've seen a lot of folks go to the pottie without washing their hands. I don't want to buy a demo when that sorta thing is in the back of my mind...I'm probably being too picky, but oh well, everyone's got their own take on it.

My point is...good call on not taking the demos.

helphelp911
Mar 3rd, 2010, 04:57 PM
i called one staples and they only had 1 in stock left, which they said would most likely be a demo, so i saved myself a 1.5 hour drive there and back lol (even though that would've only been about $5 worth of gas for me).

But I too think that demo's aren't that good of a deal EVEN if they're $50 cheaper from a NIB. The $50 difference isn't enough to justify for the state of the machine. Everyone can type, cough, sneeze, spit, drool (i know i'm being extreme) on the demo. Besides, I've seen a lot of folks go to the pottie without washing their hands. I don't want to buy a demo when that sorta thing is in the back of my mind...I'm probably being too picky, but oh well, everyone's got their own take on it.

My point is...good call on not taking the demos.

+1. i always see fingerprint on the demo screen..look nasty..:evil:

ignoreme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 05:00 PM
Everyone can type, cough, sneeze, spit, drool (i know i'm being extreme) on the demo. Besides, I've seen a lot of folks go to the pottie without washing their hands.

Good point. Yak, my demo makes me sick now...o, somebody put their hands on, just after they cleaned their nose hole...

Derfel
Mar 3rd, 2010, 05:22 PM
So I ducked into a Staples here in Winnipeg, even though I had called a different one and they told me there were none in stock. I asked a sales rep if they had any in stock, and he went into the back and said they had one black one left. Asked for a price, and he came back with...

$249. Not a store demo either. Grabbed a Win 7 DVD, but no USB port replicator (don't really need one anyways?)...

Guess my "detective" skills are pretty solid, eh?

Rx-87
Mar 3rd, 2010, 05:26 PM
smoking... under $250 + win 7 dvd.. darn

ignoreme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 05:28 PM
So I ducked into a Staples here in Winnipeg, even though I had called a different one and they told me there were none in stock. I asked a sales rep if they had any in stock, and he went into the back and said they had one black one left. Asked for a price, and he came back with...

$249. Not a store demo either. Grabbed a Win 7 DVD, but no USB port replicator (don't really need one anyways?)...

Guess my "detective" skills are pretty solid, eh?

What???$249??? I will call to confirm it. Save additional $50 is good!

Derfel
Mar 3rd, 2010, 05:32 PM
What???$249??? I will call to confirm it. Save additional $50 is good!

Well, FYI I think they might have given me the store demo price on a new laptop. I have a friend of mine scouting out a different location - he's going to text me with what he's found. I'm giving mine away to a local charity (auction), so saving $50 is solid news for that purpose!

(Sometimes us "lurkers" come up with the best deals, you know...)

Mepoor
Mar 3rd, 2010, 05:41 PM
So I ducked into a Staples here in Winnipeg... I asked a sales rep if they had any in stock, and he went into the back and said they had one black one left. Asked for a price, and he came back with...

$249. Not a store demo either. Grabbed a Win 7 DVD, but no USB port replicator (don't really need one anyways?)...

Guess my "detective" skills are pretty solid, eh?Nice detective work indeed ;). Beware though - Lurking Newb will want you disclose the exact Staples location in Winnipeg...
$249 eh, even nicer. Again, nice WORK Derfel!

joey003
Mar 3rd, 2010, 05:53 PM
That is why I said MS could look for more info. The OEM key is only meant for certain laptops, and in a future update it could ask for more info to determine if the key is meant for the laptop or not.

SLIC settings can be pulled and put into a BIOS. But Windows can easily go beyond BIOS settings to check for a machine's authenticity.

But I do agree it seems unlikely, it just isn't impossible.


There are only a couple of keys being used in SLIC mods, which limits the amount of damage caused to legit users. The more important thing is that once a key is found, it is no longer used by the mfg. so that really limits the amount of computers running a stolen key.

Also MS has indicated that they have methods of detecting the mods, so who knows, they could be bluffing or they might force an update to disable stolen copies.


there's not just a couple of keys being used in SLIC mods. nearly all OEM SLP keys around floating around. they can't blacklist even 1 of those without killing off massive amount of legit oem PCs. the only time a key was blocked with 7 was one of the early ones that leaked months before any win7 PCs even shipped.

MS' methods are for detecting hacks such as loaders. there was even an update for it recently, and it has no way to touch an oem offline activated PC.

shabby
Mar 3rd, 2010, 06:14 PM
I found a store with 2 of these laptops left but they had the bronze package already loaded up for an extra $90, i can't believe they're stooping this low.

tache14
Mar 3rd, 2010, 06:21 PM
Was at the North End - Lelia?
and they have a demo used, $299

The only way to get a discount was to buy the bronze upgrade and install.
($50 off laptop, but add $89 for bronze and + $30 for install - but you get the vista recovery disks, amd a oem win 7 dvd)

Still not bad all said and done. @ $369 with Win 7 installed

Port replicator deal expired, they wouldn't budge!

Tumster
Mar 3rd, 2010, 06:39 PM
Bought the last two at the South Edmonton store yesterday. $297 each, free bronze setup, one was open box but according to staff, not a demo, just open box, got 2 port replicators. YMMV with different stores.

Thanks OP.

komal
Mar 3rd, 2010, 06:50 PM
Was at the North End - Lelia?
and they have a demo used, $299

The only way to get a discount was to buy the bronze upgrade and install.
($50 off laptop, but add $89 for bronze and + $30 for install - but you get the vista recovery disks, amd a oem win 7 dvd)

Still not bad all said and done. @ $369 with Win 7 installed

Port replicator deal expired, they wouldn't budge!

The really sad thing is I bought that demo when these laptops were still selling for $350. I returned it when I later found a new unit. They must have upgraded it with Win7 and are now selling it for even more than I originally bought it for!!

On the upside, it was in good condition, and I gave it a nice wipe down after purchase.

komal
Mar 3rd, 2010, 06:58 PM
You're skeptical? Really, are you serious? This is what I do, just come around posting on forums useless information.

Yes -- it was locked, but you could still pick it up. At this particular staples the metal shelving units are so close together that you have to twist the laptop around just to get a good look at it. The stickers were all faded and ripped (including the Windows serial one) There were some scratches by the track pad. Obviously it works, but if a new one and a demo one go for the same price, it's not as good a deal.

The point about the battery is well taken. I think the same thing.

Skeptical because a lot of people on these forums think seeing fingerprints makes something look beat up. I'm surprised stickers would be ripped, the demo I originally purchased was in perfect condition, other than fingerprints and smudges.

eree8
Mar 3rd, 2010, 07:00 PM
Hey guys who boutght this laptop.

I found great thread of acer ultra-thin laptop including 1410.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=419117

It also has tutorial for Win7 installaion.

Also, great utility, 1810tray, can be found here.

Hope this helps.

komal
Mar 3rd, 2010, 07:02 PM
That's been posted here before because this is the 3rd or 4th or 5th thread we've had on the Acer 1410. Everytime the price drops we start a new one instead of bumping the staples clearance thread.

Mepoor
Mar 3rd, 2010, 07:06 PM
Bought the last two at the South Edmonton store yesterday. $297 each, free bronze setup, one was open box but according to staff, not a demo, just open box, got 2 port replicators. YMMV with different stores.

Thanks OP.You are most welcome...,
but come on dude - 2 UNITS. You freely admit to buying more than 1 unit here on RFD?!?! You are a brave man! Lurking Newb will certainly have something to say about that! Here comes the H word... ( ;) tongue firmly planted inside of cheek).

komal
Mar 3rd, 2010, 07:14 PM
Don't get me wrong - all credit due for updating a deal from a couple of weeks ago.

Just saying that Detective Mepoor
1. never responded as to where he purchased his laptop (which is his right not to but likely to protect his option to purchase).
2. He purchases as many as seemed to be able to find, not sure if he intends to even use them all
3. and then has a waiting list (possibly)to resell.

If that doesn't meet the definition of hoarding - I don't know what does. Please define it for me. Didn't know that term was so inflammatory...seemed to hit a sore spot with some of you!

I was actually sincerly congratulating the man in my first post, but he seemed to take an offense and tried to take a bite out of me for being new.

Sorry that I'm not hardcore on the RFD forums - seems like a generational difference I guess - but in my world working smarter will always triumph over working harder. Welcome to the new millenium!
While everyone understands your point, you are part of the problem. RFD is a community that shares awesome deals.

BUT many of the people who benefit aren't part of the community, they are lurkers. I remember with the crazy $15 game deal a year ago, one couple, man and woman, went around looting every store. Lurkers.

Lurkers are part of the reason people DO NOT want to post specific info on here.

While everyone understands your point, Mepoor is correct in that he waited 5 days. That is a pretty reasonable amount of time, at that point, picking up 2 more units isn't something to whine about. So just stop talking about hoarders, because hoarders that are part of the community are less of a problem than lurkers who contribute nothing.

Why would anybody post deals to benefit lurkers?

teddy
Mar 3rd, 2010, 07:22 PM
page two of the flyer.


Thanks. I went back yesterday and managed to get the replicator :)

jimmyche
Mar 3rd, 2010, 07:35 PM
Thanks. I went back yesterday and managed to get the replicator :)

You are welcome.
I am just surprised that they don't even know their own offering.
Which store is that?

gzmajun
Mar 3rd, 2010, 08:06 PM
Just got one, came with the bronze plan. Told them I don't need the bronze plan so they settled for a 5% off on the original plan + 3 year extended warrenty came to $400 with tax included. This means I can change my batteries anytime I want within 3 years. Pretty sweet?

same here. $400.65

plus they gave me SONY DVD-R P/10 for free.

U4IA
Mar 3rd, 2010, 08:21 PM
So I ducked into a Staples here in Winnipeg, even though I had called a different one and they told me there were none in stock. I asked a sales rep if they had any in stock, and he went into the back and said they had one black one left. Asked for a price, and he came back with...

$249. Not a store demo either. Grabbed a Win 7 DVD, but no USB port replicator (don't really need one anyways?)...

Guess my "detective" skills are pretty solid, eh?

Sucks that each staples is soo different.. awsome deal for you, but the couple of staples I went to were absolutely useless.. No deals to be found..

ignoreme
Mar 3rd, 2010, 08:29 PM
You are welcome.
I am just surprised that they don't even know their own offering.
Which store is that?

They always "forget". Looks maybe it's not a good promotion so no notebook was sold these days thus they themselves knew nothing about it...

komal
Mar 3rd, 2010, 08:36 PM
True. I think Staples employees are just bottom of the barrel fools, or just don't bother to or aren't forced to learn store policies.

I explained my price protection situation to 4 stores, explaining that I was just past the 14 day refund/return period. 3 said that there was nothing they could do. 1 store made 'an exception'. Then I find out from this thread that Staples has a 30 day price protection policy! And that 14 days is only for protection from competitor's prices.

Just really pathetic.

ciao
Mar 3rd, 2010, 09:10 PM
True. I think Staples employees are just bottom of the barrel fools, or just don't bother to or aren't forced to learn store policies.

I explained my price protection situation to 4 stores, explaining that I was just past the 14 day refund/return period. 3 said that there was nothing they could do. 1 store made 'an exception'. Then I find out from this thread that Staples has a 30 day price protection policy! And that 14 days is only for protection from competitor's prices.

Just really pathetic.

can't find Canadian policy

http://www.staples.com/sbd/content/help/using/returns_policy.html

gadder
Mar 3rd, 2010, 11:15 PM
I called around Edmonton without luck finding one, but I did find one just North of the city in a little town called Fort Saskatchewan.

It was an open box - no discount on the machine, but they gave me the extended (+2 years) warranty for 50% off (=$35).

No USB replicator deal now, but I did get the HP F4480 Deskjet printer that is "free" with laptop purchases. I say "free" because it is $100 - $50 instant rebate - $50 mail-in rebate (so not immediately free). And there are the recycling fees ~$5 for the Aspire, and ~$8 for the printer.

Justr cahrging it up, and happy so far.

Thanks OP.

chuk-chak52
Mar 3rd, 2010, 11:36 PM
i got a black one(demo) they took $50 off for being a demo ...$267 tax in. thanks OP

loonieryan
Mar 4th, 2010, 01:40 AM
Hey guys who boutght this laptop.

I found great thread of acer ultra-thin laptop including 1410.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=419117

It also has tutorial for Win7 installaion.

Also, great utility, 1810tray, can be found here.

Hope this helps.

Thank you for sharing! The 1810tray utility is incredible! That fan noise was really annoying the hell out of me.

loonieryan
Mar 4th, 2010, 02:07 AM
Btw, everyone should update their bios first and foremost. The version that came on mine (0.3113) had CPU temp monitoring problems and my temp was constantly stuck at 47 no matter how much CPU load I had going. I updated to 1.3303 and problem solved.

jltapawan
Mar 4th, 2010, 02:53 AM
My wifi connects to me Dir-655 as 54mbps. I thought this had draft N?

Hey, I got an 1410 and a DIR-655 also.

you have to make sure that the N is enabled in windows and also make sure that the DIR-655 is using at least WPA-PSK and that it is set to either N-only or any of the N mixed modes.

My setup is currently WPA2-PSK with AES encryption and I can get full 300Mbps speed on my Acer 1410.

consumerPI
Mar 4th, 2010, 03:04 AM
How do you update your Bios?


Btw, everyone should update their bios first and foremost. ........

eree8
Mar 4th, 2010, 03:12 AM
How do you update your Bios?

http://global-download.acer.com/GDFiles/BIOS/BIOS/BIOS_Acer_3303_A_A.zip?acerid=633942230421639508&Step1=Notebook&Step2=Aspire&Step3=Aspire%201410%20(11.6%27%27)&OS=V10&LC=en&BC=Acer&SC=PA_4

performing update bios at your own risk.

bigbug
Mar 4th, 2010, 03:41 AM
Btw, everyone should update their bios first and foremost. The version that came on mine (0.3113) had CPU temp monitoring problems and my temp was constantly stuck at 47 no matter how much CPU load I had going. I updated to 1.3303 and problem solved.

Where did you download the CPU monitoring program? I installed win 7 but can't find any apps on Acer's website, just drivers.

RFDeal_or_NoDeal
Mar 4th, 2010, 08:52 AM
Has anyone tried to use XBMC or Boxee on Acer Asprie 1410? I wonder if either one works for playing 1080p mkv files on this baby.

tenen
Mar 4th, 2010, 10:46 AM
I have purchased a Windows 7 upgrade disc from a fellow RFD member and it works flawless. I think he has one more disk for sale:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/acer-kit-microsoft-windows-7-home-premium-upgrade-32-bit-30-00-can-851983/

82
Mar 4th, 2010, 10:51 AM
Is it an OEM Win7 disc allow you to do fresh install without the Acer craps?


I have purchased a Windows 7 upgrade disk from a fellow RFD member and it works flawless. I think he has one more disk for sale:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/acer-kit-microsoft-windows-7-home-premium-upgrade-32-bit-30-00-can-851983/

loonieryan
Mar 4th, 2010, 10:58 AM
Where did you download the CPU monitoring program? I installed win 7 but can't find any apps on Acer's website, just drivers.

CoreTemp, 1810tray, etc. will show you your CPU temps.

bigbug
Mar 4th, 2010, 11:04 AM
Is it an OEM Win7 disc allow you to do fresh install without the Acer craps?

Yes that's what I did. I created a USB install drive from an Acer Win 7 CD, format the drive and clean installed win 7.

bigbug
Mar 4th, 2010, 11:07 AM
CoreTemp, 1810tray, etc. will show you your CPU temps.

Thanks, will try.

tenen
Mar 4th, 2010, 11:13 AM
Is it an OEM Win7 disc allow you to do fresh install without the Acer craps?

Yes, it's an OEM Win 7 disc and I believe it allows you to do a clean install, altough I just upgraded from Vista and everything works perfect.

EPcjay
Mar 4th, 2010, 11:18 AM
Hey, I got an 1410 and a DIR-655 also.

you have to make sure that the N is enabled in windows and also make sure that the DIR-655 is using at least WPA-PSK and that it is set to either N-only or any of the N mixed modes.

My setup is currently WPA2-PSK with AES encryption and I can get full 300Mbps speed on my Acer 1410.

Thanks

Found out from the Intel Forum that this network cards only works at 300mbps when the settings are on PSK2 w/ AES encryption. Anything else runs at 54mbps.

jimmyche
Mar 4th, 2010, 01:15 PM
Hey, I got an 1410 and a DIR-655 also.

you have to make sure that the N is enabled in windows and also make sure that the DIR-655 is using at least WPA-PSK and that it is set to either N-only or any of the N mixed modes.

My setup is currently WPA2-PSK with AES encryption and I can get full 300Mbps speed on my Acer 1410.

I have my DLINK DIR-665 set up WPA2-PERSONAL WITH AES and I am only getting 150Mbps. Wireless N is enable in windows vista. Are there any other settings that you have done?

thank you.

Mepoor
Mar 4th, 2010, 02:12 PM
with respect to the USB ports, do all 3 ports provide the same amount of Amps?
I am wondering becuase apparently to power a external DVD player you need to connect it to the USB with 5 amps vs the other USB ports that generally on provide 5 milliamps... or something like that :confused:. Any thoughts on this?

mtlboy
Mar 4th, 2010, 02:51 PM
i've been trying to enable wireless and connect but it's not working, is there a wifi dongle I need to enable?

16el
Mar 4th, 2010, 03:57 PM
i've been trying to enable wireless and connect but it's not working, is there a wifi dongle I need to enable?

there is a physical on/off switch for the wifi. I think its on the front edge.

MELPOMENE
Mar 4th, 2010, 10:11 PM
just called staples, no luck. i'd be interested if anyone has a spare one to sell

EPcjay
Mar 5th, 2010, 10:11 AM
with respect to the USB ports, do all 3 ports provide the same amount of Amps?
I am wondering becuase apparently to power a external DVD player you need to connect it to the USB with 5 amps vs the other USB ports that generally on provide 5 milliamps... or something like that :confused:. Any thoughts on this?

Not sure how to answer in respect to power ratings, but I had to use two USB ports to power my external drive. There's not enough power from one to use the drive, but enough to power to turn on.

asdisme
Mar 5th, 2010, 10:21 AM
So no one has luck of getting Win7 at all? Damn... Maybe I gotta buy it from that rfd guy afterall :(

EPcjay
Mar 5th, 2010, 10:23 AM
So no one has luck of getting Win7 at all? Damn... Maybe I gotta buy it from that rfd guy afterall :(

No luck for me ...store i went to didn't have any more left, and I ended up paying 20 dollars for shipping overseas to a cousin (cause upgrade still valid for other countries)

asdisme
Mar 5th, 2010, 10:26 AM
No luck for me ...store i went to didn't have any more left, and I ended up paying 20 dollars for shipping overseas to a cousin (cause upgrade still valid for other countries)

Yeah $20 still beats the $30 the person is charging, do you know which countries still valid? US?

RoninTech
Mar 5th, 2010, 10:58 AM
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Have you ever read Consumer Reports my friend?

Search 2009 Consumer Reports: Top Picks for laptop :D

Shhhhhh, more great machines for us! :D

ignoreme
Mar 5th, 2010, 11:27 AM
Yeah $20 still beats the $30 the person is charging, do you know which countries still valid? US?

All other countries except CA and US...the dead line is Mar 15th, need a small fee though. CA and US is free, but ends earlier.

loonieryan
Mar 5th, 2010, 11:32 AM
So I cleaned up the wife's netbook of all the junk that's pre-installed by Acer, updated all the drivers, especially the Intel HD 4500 GPU drivers.

Testing 1080p H.264 with MPC-HC using the internal DXVA decoder gives pretty good results, but it's not always smooth. I also tested with CoreAVC which is a software decoder and that results in very high CPU load and stuttering playback.

I then went on to test with PowerDVD 8 H.264/VC-1 decoders which support hardware acceleration and work fine on my HTPC with the same files, but for some reason they back-off to software decoding on the 1410. I don't understand exactly what's going on and why DXVA is broken with these decoders on the 1410.

Strangely my Toshiba laptop has the same GPU and can hardware decode the same 1080p files using MPC-HC or the PowerDVD 8 decoders without a single glitch, and CPU usage remains well below 10%.

I'm still going to do some more testing over the weekend using Windows Media Player and Microsoft's media foundation decoders and see what results that gives.

In the meantime: does anyone know how to increase the video memory on the GPU? The option in the BIOS is fixed to 64MB and there's no way I could find to modify it there.

asdisme
Mar 5th, 2010, 11:37 AM
All other countries except CA and US...the dead line is Mar 15th, need a small fee though. CA and US is free, but ends earlier.

So what would be the total cost of getting the win7 from another country ( I have family from Asia). You think its better to buy it from RFD or ordering it from another country?

ignoreme
Mar 5th, 2010, 11:57 AM
So I cleaned up the wife's netbook of all the junk that's pre-installed by Acer, updated all the drivers, especially the Intel HD 4500 GPU drivers.

Testing 1080p H.264 with MPC-HC using the internal DXVA decoder gives pretty good results, but it's not always smooth. I also tested with CoreAVC which is a software decoder and that results in very high CPU load and stuttering playback.

I then went on to test with PowerDVD 8 H.264/VC-1 decoders which support hardware acceleration and work fine on my HTPC with the same files, but for some reason they back-off to software decoding on the 1410. I don't understand exactly what's going on and why DXVA is broken with these decoders on the 1410.

Strangely my Toshiba laptop has the same GPU and can hardware decode the same 1080p files using MPC-HC or the PowerDVD 8 decoders without a single glitch, and CPU usage remains well below 10%.

I'm still going to do some more testing over the weekend using Windows Media Player and Microsoft's media foundation decoders and see what results that gives.

In the meantime: does anyone know how to increase the video memory on the GPU? The option in the BIOS is fixed to 64MB and there's no way I could find to modify it there.

I have no idea really how to set up, 2!
The best quality (smoothy and less CPU ocupied 55% average though) I can get is WMP. And Adobe Flash Player 10.1 beta3 works for online Youtube HD watching (if your downloading speed is good, or you have to wait until it downloaded and then have a replay)

ignoreme
Mar 5th, 2010, 11:59 AM
So what would be the total cost of getting the win7 from another country ( I have family from Asia). You think its better to buy it from RFD or ordering it from another country?

The less the better. You just need a upgrade key, call them and write it down. No other fees.

redmileage99
Mar 5th, 2010, 12:12 PM
To smoothly play 1080p video, I installed shark007 codecs, available at http://shark007.net, then following the instruction here (http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva) to tweak MPC-HC. Especially last step specifically for 4500hd.

Everything should be fine after that. around 6x% cpu utilization for 1080p on average, sometime may go up to 80%.

loonieryan
Mar 5th, 2010, 12:16 PM
To smoothly play 1080p video, I installed shark007 codecs, available at http://shark007.net, then following the instruction here (http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva) to tweak MPC-HC. Especially last step specifically for 4500hd.

Everything should be fine after that. around 6x% cpu utilization for 1080p on average, sometime may go up to 80%.

You're just using software decoding. I'm trying to avoid that since the Intel 4500 GPU is fully capable of hardware decoding 1080p H.264/VC-1 content.

If anybody has figured out the right settings to make HARDWARE decoding work smoothly on the 1410 then please share them.

ignoreme
Mar 5th, 2010, 12:20 PM
To smoothly play 1080p video, I installed shark007 codecs, available at http://shark007.net, then following the instruction here (http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva) to tweak MPC-HC. Especially last step specifically for 4500hd.

Everything should be fine after that. around 6x% cpu utilization for 1080p on average, sometime may go up to 80%.

I assume people are eager to see below 20% utilization of CPU for HD acceleration? I don't need to install anything just use WMP coming from Windows 7, it automatically works and it's only 55% average

As SU3500 is weak, 20% of a T6600 is maybe 80% of SU3500?

loonieryan
Mar 5th, 2010, 12:20 PM
Software decoding a 1080p movie/episode is going to run your CPU at nearly 80% load for long periods of time. That'll generate lots of heat, and everyone knows heat is bad. That'll potentially reduce the longevity of your netbook.

Why risk it when the GPU is capable of hardware decoding the video?

And again, here's why you shouldn't install codec packs: http://www.howtogeek.com/wiki/Why_Codec_Packs_Are_Bad

ignoreme
Mar 5th, 2010, 12:24 PM
Software decoding a 1080p movie/episode is going to run your CPU at nearly 80% load for long periods of time. That'll generate lots of heat, and everyone knows heat is bad. That'll potentially reduce the longevity of your netbook.

Why risk it when the GPU is capable of hardware decoding the video?

And again, here's why you shouldn't install codec packs: http://www.howtogeek.com/wiki/Why_Codec_Packs_Are_Bad

agree with you. 4500MHD can do this job. But it need softprogam's support...it's weird, 4500MHD is there for such a long time and minions of notebook/ desktop are using it, the support still so less.

asdisme
Mar 5th, 2010, 12:37 PM
The less the better. You just need a upgrade key, call them and write it down. No other fees.

Oh that is true, i total forgot that I can borrow someone's usb win7 and call them to ask for the key in Asia. But above you mentioned something about a small fee. What did you mean by that?

jh1
Mar 5th, 2010, 12:37 PM
Software decoding a 1080p movie/episode is going to run your CPU at nearly 80% load for long periods of time. That'll generate lots of heat, and everyone knows heat is bad. That'll potentially reduce the longevity of your netbook.

In reality practically all users grow tired of their hardware or upgrade their computers before "wearing them" down due to heat. Technology moves so fast these days that in practice, this is an unnecessary concern.

meanstreetjd
Mar 5th, 2010, 12:46 PM
If anybody in Winnipeg, MB is wondering they may still have one red 1 left at the St. James location.

RoninTech
Mar 5th, 2010, 12:57 PM
I assume people are eager to see below 20% utilization of CPU for HD acceleration? I don't need to install anything just use WMP coming from Windows 7, it automatically works and it's only 55% average

As SU3500 is weak, 20% of a T6600 is maybe 80% of SU3500?

No but try to play an intensive 1080P video and your SW decoding will fall flat on its face while the 4500HD doing HW acceleration will chug along merrily.

You should try watching Planet Earth in 1080P, truly spectacular but not enjoyable with these laptops unless you get HW acceleration going. Try this clip here (http://www.bigandfree.com/12127741/Planet_Earth_From_Pole_to_Pole_1080p_sample.mkv.ht ml) to see what I mean. Then follow this guide (http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/) to enable DXVA HW acceleration on the Intel GPU and try it again.

meanstreetjd
Mar 5th, 2010, 01:00 PM
So I ducked into a Staples here in Winnipeg, even though I had called a different one and they told me there were none in stock. I asked a sales rep if they had any in stock, and he went into the back and said they had one black one left. Asked for a price, and he came back with...

$249. Not a store demo either. Grabbed a Win 7 DVD, but no USB port replicator (don't really need one anyways?)...

Guess my "detective" skills are pretty solid, eh?

You got lucky there! Which location was this at? I got black demo unit in downtown for $299 with NO Win 7 DVD. They insisted that I had to pay for installation to get it.

loonieryan
Mar 5th, 2010, 01:03 PM
No but try to play an intensive 1080P video and your SW decoding will fall flat on its face while the 4500HD doing HW acceleration will chug along merrily.

You should try watching Planet Earth in 1080P, truly spectacular but not enjoyable with these laptops unless you get HW acceleration going. Try this clip here (http://www.bigandfree.com/12127741/Planet_Earth_From_Pole_to_Pole_1080p_sample.mkv.ht ml) to see what I mean. Then follow this guide (http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/) to enable DXVA HW acceleration on the Intel GPU and try it again.

I followed that guide verbatim. In fact, my set up was already nearly identical to what's in that guide so I had little to no changes to make.

Still, 1080p isn't smooth with DXVA on my 1410. Are you able to get smooth, stutter-free playback?

Like I said, my Toshiba laptop with the same GPU handles all 1080p DXVA without issue, but it has 128 MB allocated to the GPU, not sure if that makes a difference.

JonnyS
Mar 5th, 2010, 01:54 PM
Late to the party once again... If anyone knows where one can be had in the GTA can you please PM me?

Thanks.

redmileage99
Mar 5th, 2010, 02:41 PM
You're just using software decoding. I'm trying to avoid that since the Intel 4500 GPU is fully capable of hardware decoding 1080p H.264/VC-1 content.

If anybody has figured out the right settings to make HARDWARE decoding work smoothly on the 1410 then please share them.

If you read the link, it IS talking about how to enable hardware decoding in MPC-HC. Ignorance is the biggest enemy of all.

d_Ave
Mar 5th, 2010, 02:54 PM
How were you guys getting the free usb hub thing? I don't see that anywhere. Or has that changed since the new flier today?

redmileage99
Mar 5th, 2010, 02:57 PM
I assume people are eager to see below 20% utilization of CPU for HD acceleration? I don't need to install anything just use WMP coming from Windows 7, it automatically works and it's only 55% average

As SU3500 is weak, 20% of a T6600 is maybe 80% of SU3500?

Can your WMP play MKV files without external codecs? How about selecting different subtiles?

Microsoft won't be your best friend in watching MKV movies. ;)

loonieryan
Mar 5th, 2010, 03:07 PM
To smoothly play 1080p video, I installed shark007 codecs, available at http://shark007.net, then following the instruction here (http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva) to tweak MPC-HC. Especially last step specifically for 4500hd.

Everything should be fine after that. around 6x% cpu utilization for 1080p on average, sometime may go up to 80%.


If you read the link, it IS talking about how to enable hardware decoding in MPC-HC. Ignorance is the biggest enemy of all.

You have 60-80% CPU usage playing a 1080p video and you think hardware acceleration is working on your system? LOL

Post a GraphEdit snapshot showing that DXVA is actually working. CPU usage should be well below 20% constantly if hardware acceleration is in effect.

Don't call others ignorant when you yourself seem to be quite clueless.

82
Mar 5th, 2010, 03:25 PM
The SU3500 is not powerful enough to do 1080p decoding by itself. So probably some hardware decoding is in used, just not sure if it best utilized.


You have 60-80% CPU usage playing a 1080p video and you think hardware acceleration is working on your system? LOL

Post a GraphEdit snapshot showing that DXVA is actually working. CPU usage should be well below 20% constantly if hardware acceleration is in effect.

Don't call others ignorant when you yourself seem to be quite clueless.

Calimero
Mar 5th, 2010, 04:20 PM
Thanks OP! :razz:

Was able to get a black one (Quebec city via a transfer from another store). This is way better than my Aspire One 150. With Windows 7 installed, this is a great "little" computer.

The only "downside", no bluetooth on mine. But hey, i have a Dealextreme one that is working very well.

Thanks again!

redmileage99
Mar 5th, 2010, 04:34 PM
You have 60-80% CPU usage playing a 1080p video and you think hardware acceleration is working on your system? LOL

Post a GraphEdit snapshot showing that DXVA is actually working. CPU usage should be well below 20% constantly if hardware acceleration is in effect.

Don't call others ignorant when you yourself seem to be quite clueless.

I hate to spend time to prove. If you can get any evidence that you can make SU3500/4500MHD work at 20% CPU utilization to play 1080p h264 video, post your support image. Even a screen shot will help. Everybody will be more than happy to use your solution.

GraphicEdit show it use MPC decoder and MPC is configured to use DXVA for h264 video.

Look at the lower left corner of MPC-HC player, it shows playing DXVA and CPU utilization is in the range of 60-80%. On a brandnew 1410 without tweaking, MPC-HC will only show playing and no picture on my machine.


http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/733/videodecoder.jpg


http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9187/moviecpu.jpg

loonieryan
Mar 5th, 2010, 04:50 PM
That's the same results I'm getting, and it sometimes stutters. Does yours stutter?

I can't explain why the same GPU on my Toshiba laptop (however that one has a Core 2 Duo) can play smoothly with less than 10% CPU usage.

Something is wrong with the DXVA on the 1410.


I hate to spend time to prove. If you can get any evidence that you can make SU3500/4500MHD work at 20% CPU utilization to play 1080p h264 video, post your support image. Even a screen shot will help. Everybody will be more than happy to use your solution.

GraphicEdit show it use MPC decoder and MPC is configured to use DXVA for h264 video.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/733/videodecoder.jpg

Look at the lower left corner of MPC-HC player, it shows playing DXVA and CPU utilization is in the range of 60-80%. On a brandnew 1410 without tweaking, MPC-HC will only show playing and no picture on my machine.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9187/moviecpu.jpg

redmileage99
Mar 5th, 2010, 04:56 PM
That's the same results I'm getting, and it sometimes stutters. Does yours stutter?

I can't explain why the same GPU on my Toshiba laptop (however that one has a Core 2 Duo) can play smoothly with less than 10% CPU usage.

Something is wrong with the DXVA on the 1410.

If you did it right, there is no shutters. Smooth play even for youtube flash 1080p although CPU is almost 100%.

You may have some background process kick in every so ofter to each up CPU and cause shutters.

Also latest graphic card driver version 2082 seems to fix the flicker problem when the machine wakes up from low power hibernation and improved graphic quality a little bit.

here is the link.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=419117&page=108

oshiboshi
Mar 5th, 2010, 05:25 PM
1 Demo model left at St Albert red in color, found instore at around 1pm

fuzzione
Mar 5th, 2010, 06:03 PM
I offered up a solution for smooth 1080p play in post 239 of this thread. Loonieryan's reply was to "lol at me" insisting that his MPC-HC solution was the 'cleanest.' I'm now LOL back at him, as he's now complaining of stutters and that there's something wrong with DXVA on the 1410 :rolleyes:

I assure you the 1410 works fine with 1080p MKV's at less than 20% cpu use and smooth play, assuming you're not trying to run a particularly bad encode. I would suggest my post 239 be reviewed once again as a possible solution.

Also keep in mind the following:

Best results are obtained with a clean installation of Win7 64 bit (not 32!).
Use Shark007's most recent versions (you will need to install both 32 and 64 bit apps). Use Haali's most recent 64 bit version.

NO OTHER codecs/video apps installed as this may cause conflicts. All you need is Shark 32 bit, 64 bit, Haali 64 and the stock WMP12 64 bit. Nothing else. Use default installation options on Shark and Haali. You can tweak from there.

Use default Microsoft drivers for the sound card, not Realtec's.

Also, make sure your graphics are set to 'maximum performance' and that you're running off a basic (non-aero) windows desktop. I went around many circles including the MPC-HC route before establishing that this solution works the best.

Good luck.

loonieryan
Mar 5th, 2010, 06:16 PM
I offered up a solution for smooth 1080p play in post 239 of this thread. Loonieryan's reply was to "lol at me" insisting that his MPC-HC solution was the 'cleanest.' I'm now LOL back at him, as he's now complaining of stutters and that there's something wrong with DXVA on the 1410 :rolleyes:

I assure you the 1410 works fine with 1080p MKV's at less than 20% cpu use and smooth play, assuming you're not trying to run a particularly bad encode. I would suggest my post 239 be reviewed once again as a possible solution.

Also keep in mind the following:

Best results are obtained with a clean installation of Win7 64 bit (not 32!).
Use Shark007's most recent versions (you will need to install both 32 and 64 bit apps). Use Haali's most recent 64 bit version.

NO OTHER codecs/video apps installed as this may cause conflicts. All you need is Shark 32 bit, 64 bit, Haali 64 and the stock WMP12 64 bit. Nothing else. Use default installation options on Shark and Haali. You can tweak from there.

Use default Microsoft drivers for the sound card, not Realtec's.

Also, make sure your graphics are set to 'maximum performance' and that you're running off a basic (non-aero) windows desktop. I went around many circles including the MPC-HC route before establishing that this solution works the best.

Good luck.

Ok, I apologize and take my LOLs back :) I'll try your solution even though I really hate codec packs...

MPC-HC works on my Toshiba laptop with the same GPU without a glitch and I figured it would work on the 1410 as well.

I was wrong, I'm sorry. Thanks for sharing your solution.

fuzzione
Mar 5th, 2010, 07:58 PM
Ok, I apologize and take my LOLs back :) I'll try your solution even though I really hate codec packs...

MPC-HC works on my Toshiba laptop with the same GPU without a glitch and I figured it would work on the 1410 as well.

I was wrong, I'm sorry. Thanks for sharing your solution.

Hey no prob bud. There's certainly more than one way to skin this cat and having also gone nuts over this myself I thought I'd try to save others the hassle. Shark's is really a very 'lite' codec pack, nowhere near as horrific as CCCP or K-lite. The nice thing about the shark program is the ability to instantly 'undo' any changes if you screw up, and significantly, to launch the 64 bit version of WMP easily. If you read up on the latter you will find this is not a user-friendly thing to do -- by default only the 32 bit version launches (yes, even in 64 bit Win7).

82
Mar 5th, 2010, 08:21 PM
anyone tried the nightly build XBMC with DXVA support?

http://mirrors.xbmc.org/nightlies/win32/


Hey no prob bud. There's certainly more than one way to skin this cat and having also gone nuts over this myself I thought I'd try to save others the hassle. Shark's is really a very 'lite' codec pack, nowhere near as horrific as CCCP or K-lite. The nice thing about the shark program is the ability to instantly 'undo' any changes if you screw up, and significantly, to launch the 64 bit version of WMP easily. If you read up on the latter you will find this is not a user-friendly thing to do -- by default only the 32 bit version launches (yes, even in 64 bit Win7).

redmileage99
Mar 5th, 2010, 09:20 PM
I offered up a solution for smooth 1080p play in post 239 of this thread. Loonieryan's reply was to "lol at me" insisting that his MPC-HC solution was the 'cleanest.' I'm now LOL back at him, as he's now complaining of stutters and that there's something wrong with DXVA on the 1410 :rolleyes:

I assure you the 1410 works fine with 1080p MKV's at less than 20% cpu use and smooth play, assuming you're not trying to run a particularly bad encode. I would suggest my post 239 be reviewed once again as a possible solution.

Also keep in mind the following:

Best results are obtained with a clean installation of Win7 64 bit (not 32!).
Use Shark007's most recent versions (you will need to install both 32 and 64 bit apps). Use Haali's most recent 64 bit version.

NO OTHER codecs/video apps installed as this may cause conflicts. All you need is Shark 32 bit, 64 bit, Haali 64 and the stock WMP12 64 bit. Nothing else. Use default installation options on Shark and Haali. You can tweak from there.

Use default Microsoft drivers for the sound card, not Realtec's.

Also, make sure your graphics are set to 'maximum performance' and that you're running off a basic (non-aero) windows desktop. I went around many circles including the MPC-HC route before establishing that this solution works the best.

Good luck.

I upgraded shark007 codecs to the latest version. Mine was version 2.3x. But I don't see any improvement. Still around 60-80%. I have clean install of Win 7 64bit and use WMP 64 bit. The wmplayer.exe process itself uses 50% CPU. Nowhere near you claimed 10-15%.

Do you mind to post settings in shark007 settting application x64? I tried different settings and different movie files but no difference.

fuzzione
Mar 5th, 2010, 10:02 PM
I upgraded shark007 codecs to the latest version. Mine was version 2.3x. But I don't see any improvement. Still around 60-80%. I have clean install of Win 7 64bit and use WMP 64 bit. The wmplayer.exe process itself uses 50% CPU. Nowhere near you claimed 10-15%.

Do you mind to post settings in shark007 settting application x64? I tried different settings and different movie files but no difference.

The thing is, I don't own the 1410 any longer, not that it wasn't a fantastic unit for the money. My needs simply changed and it recently had to go. Going by memory however, the important things to remember are to make certain you launch the 64bit shark program and on the 1st tab (config) click the 'use 64 bit wmp' box. Under the 264 tab click 'do not use ffdshow' on the left. You want to use the microsoft default codec for mkvs. If this doesn't help perhaps you can visit Shark007's forums for further info.

darkprince
Mar 5th, 2010, 10:06 PM
There are 121 units left Canada wide. Due to Hoarders and Lurkers I won't be releasing the exact location of these units. =P Happy Hunting ppl. =)

ECBomb
Mar 5th, 2010, 10:44 PM
omg i really want one...anybody in Van got a spare one to sell? or can someone point me the to the right direction? if so, please PM me! Thanks! I just want ONE for myself!

darkprince
Mar 5th, 2010, 11:04 PM
Ok since I am getting more attention then I expected.

GTA has Zero.

For those of u in the other cities, good luck.

southnam
Mar 5th, 2010, 11:28 PM
I need a netbook of any kind in the next 4 days as I'm heading out of town on a trip and need a portable computer. Is this a Good choice if I can find one? Anyone see one in Ottawa?

asdisme
Mar 5th, 2010, 11:46 PM
Damn it is $19.50 for shipping & handling to get the upgrade CD to HK. But still better than paying full price.

loonieryan
Mar 6th, 2010, 02:25 AM
anyone tried the nightly build XBMC with DXVA support?

http://mirrors.xbmc.org/nightlies/win32/

Just tried it. No go for DXVA on the 4500 GPU. Although XBMC is gorgeous. Might switch my HTPC over to it from MediaPortal!

I'm very close to getting smooth playback using DXVA and the latest SVN release of MPC-HC. My CPU usage is below 30% right now. Still tweaking...

loonieryan
Mar 6th, 2010, 04:05 AM
The Shark007 codec packs were a no-go for me. I installed Shark007 32-bit then 64-bit (since I'm running Win7 x64) and it didn't help at all. In fact, as with all codec packs, there are too many settings and configuration parameters to deal with. I hate the Shark007 configuration GUI because it really isn't intuitive at all.

Thank GOD for Acronis Try & Decide feature that allowed me to revert my system back to a clean state prior to installing Shark007!

With a lot of tweaking I've got CPU usage down to 30% max using MPC-HC and the internal DXVA decoder and smooth playback.

I managed to get DsPlayer working in XBMC, set it up to use MPCVideoDecoder for DXVA video, and MpaAudioDecoder for audio. Definitely hardware accelerated because video is smooth, but CPU usage is 70-90% and I believe that has to do with XBMC itself and it's implementation of DirectShow (DsPlayer). DsPlayer is still BETA afterall, so can't expect it to be perfect yet.

My clean install now simply consists of:
- Latest Haali Media Splitter.
- MPC-HC stand-alone, tweaked (settings in an INI file).
OR
- Latest Haali Media Splitter.
- Registered two filters from the latest MPC-HC standalone filter pack: MPCVideoDec.ax and MpaDecFilter.ax.
- XBMC, configured to use DsPlayer, and DsPlayer configured to use Haali, MPCVideoDec, and MpaDecFilter.

82
Mar 6th, 2010, 10:51 AM
Let's know on your MPC-HC founding when you got smooth playback.


Just tried it. No go for DXVA on the 4500 GPU. Although XBMC is gorgeous. Might switch my HTPC over to it from MediaPortal!

I'm very close to getting smooth playback using DXVA and the latest SVN release of MPC-HC. My CPU usage is below 30% right now. Still tweaking...

asdisme
Mar 6th, 2010, 01:43 PM
When sending the upgrade CD to HK, I can pay for the shipping with my own credit card from Canada right or should my family over there pay for it? Also is it fine that i'm ordering the CD with a North American based notebook SN but shipping it to HK, wouldn't they be asking for a Asia notebook SN?

fergy
Mar 6th, 2010, 01:50 PM
Damn it is $19.50 for shipping & handling to get the upgrade CD to HK. But still better than paying full price.

Too bad the folks running the upgrade program just don't email the Windows Key. But then that would be too easy wouldn't it... >:(

asdisme
Mar 6th, 2010, 01:53 PM
Too bad the folks running the upgrade program just don't email the Windows Key. But then that would be too easy wouldn't it... >:(

Haha yeah that would be much faster and easier than mailing it out, but many people don't have the USB upgrade or access to the CD for the upgrade so the key would be useless to them. I wish CAN upgrade was extended some more because asking family from other country to help get the key is so troublesome lol.

ignoreme
Mar 6th, 2010, 02:22 PM
When sending the upgrade CD to HK, I can pay for the shipping with my own credit card from Canada right or should my family over there pay for it? Also is it fine that i'm ordering the CD with a North American based notebook SN but shipping it to HK, wouldn't they be asking for a Asia notebook SN?

It doesn't matter where you bought it, it's an address matter. If you bought a computer but use in Canada, you don't need to pay for the upgrade before Feb 15th. All is programed: check if its a valid SN and if its qualified for upgrade, then charge, depending on the country you wish to deliver.

asdisme
Mar 6th, 2010, 02:27 PM
It doesn't matter where you bought it, it's an address matter. If you bought a computer but use in Canada, you don't need to pay for the upgrade before Feb 15th. All is programed: check if its a valid SN and if its qualified for upgrade, then charge, depending on the country you wish to deliver.

Alright cool, as long as I just pay only19.50 for the shipping and handle to get the CD to HK without any issues. I'm happy camper.

Thanks for the info :cheesygri

GreenLotus
Mar 6th, 2010, 02:47 PM
Here is my receipt.

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4977/receipte.jpg

On a different note, has anyone tried using Skype on the 1410? I'm dropping calls, just wondering if anyone else has the same problem?

Hi Tenen, which store you bought this laptop from? I called the North York location, the staff there said they never carry the 11.6".

d_Ave
Mar 6th, 2010, 06:01 PM
I was lucky enough to find a good open box one. They installed the "bronze" package already, but didn't charge me for it. I was happy to see the battery (and it looks like the whole computer) hadn't been used yet. That's great!

I am very impressed with every aspect of the laptop thus far. Just in terms of screen quality, keyboard, etc. Not overly impressed with the dummy bluetooth stuff. Also noticed a spot for SIM behind battery; again more dummy stuff.

Now I need to XP running on this baby.

A big thanks to OP!

RFDeal_or_NoDeal
Mar 6th, 2010, 06:34 PM
Anyone running Boxee on this baby?

asdisme
Mar 6th, 2010, 11:46 PM
How did people get their order for other countries? When I put in the date of purchase it says invalid, I bought my notebook on feb 28th and the error message shows till jan 31 2010. :confused:


*Edit: Nvm I just chose a random date that was before Jan 31, 2010 and it works. But I made a mistake and submitted my order without adding my 2nd notebook into the order. Anyway to get this fixed?

Thanks

strangelove9
Mar 7th, 2010, 03:34 AM
While I didn't have to mess with the codecs mentioned earlier (I have CoreAVC), I know of at least one other piece of software capable of playing HD content absolutely flawlessly.

It's called Splash... you can download it from here:
http://mirillis.com/splash.html

my2sense
Mar 7th, 2010, 12:56 PM
Just tried it. No go for DXVA on the 4500 GPU. Although XBMC is gorgeous. Might switch my HTPC over to it from MediaPortal!


I don't have 1410 (can't find one) but pretty familiar with XBMC. Did you enable XBMC in the settings? It's set to 'auto' by default which never worked for me. You need to set it to DXVA under settings/video/player/render method. This version uses DXVA2 so it only works with Vista/Win7.

RFDeal_or_NoDeal
Mar 7th, 2010, 03:26 PM
Just tried Boxee beta, using its internal DXVA; it plays 1080p mkv, but GPU usage shows almost 100%.

tkyoshi
Mar 7th, 2010, 03:42 PM
Just tried it. No go for DXVA on the 4500 GPU. Although XBMC is gorgeous. Might switch my HTPC over to it from MediaPortal!

I'm very close to getting smooth playback using DXVA and the latest SVN release of MPC-HC. My CPU usage is below 30% right now. Still tweaking...

GMA 4500? That one doesn't have built in Hardware HD Decoders, GMA 4500HD/MHD has the built in decoders.

Nethervue
Mar 7th, 2010, 04:06 PM
GMA 4500? That one doesn't have built in Hardware HD Decoders, GMA 4500HD/MHD has the built in decoders.

The 1410 has a GMA 4500MHD

loonieryan
Mar 7th, 2010, 04:26 PM
I don't have 1410 (can't find one) but pretty familiar with XBMC. Did you enable XBMC in the settings? It's set to 'auto' by default which never worked for me. You need to set it to DXVA under settings/video/player/render method. This version uses DXVA2 so it only works with Vista/Win7.

I did enable DXVA in the options of XBMC, no luck.

I then tried the DsPlayer build of XBMC and configured DsPlayer to use MPCVideoDecoder and AC3Filter. Hardware acceleration is working, according to GraphEdit, but CPU usage in XBMC is still 90+.

MediaPortal works great though. I now have it running on the Acer 1410 using MPCVideoDecoder and AC3Filter and CPU usage hovers around 20-30% playing high bitrate 1080p MKVs.

So all I had to install was MediaPortal, AC3Filter, and register the latest and greatest MpcVideoDec.ax filter, then use RadLight Filter Manager to set MpcVideoDecoder to use a single thread for decoding (since the Intel Core Solo is a single core processor).

Easy!

Nethervue
Mar 7th, 2010, 05:00 PM
I did enable DXVA in the options of XBMC, no luck.

I then tried the DsPlayer build of XBMC and configured DsPlayer to use MPCVideoDecoder and AC3Filter. Hardware acceleration is working, according to GraphEdit, but CPU usage in XBMC is still 90+.

MediaPortal works great though. I now have it running on the Acer 1410 using MPCVideoDecoder and AC3Filter and CPU usage hovers around 20-30% playing high bitrate 1080p MKVs.

So all I had to install was MediaPortal, AC3Filter, and register the latest and greatest MpcVideoDec.ax filter, then use RadLight Filter Manager to set MpcVideoDecoder to use a single thread for decoding (since the Intel Core Solo is a single core processor).

Easy!

A couple questions. You use MediaPortal as the viewer? Where did you get the .ax file? I download the files for MPC (thought thats where it was from), but no luck.

Edit: Found the file...now trying to figure out how to set it to use a single thread.

ignoreme
Mar 7th, 2010, 05:13 PM
OS does works. I installed W7 ultimate, very different from Vista and W7 HP.
I do nothing and use the WMP 12.0, the CPU usage is average is 30-40%. Vista, no way

For HD performance, if nothing is introduced, W7 Ultimate>W7 HP>Vista HP SP2>Vista HP SP1

speed_69
Mar 7th, 2010, 07:23 PM
Anyone in Calgary know of any stores with this available?
I've been to 2 of them in NE and no luck =(
This would be an awesome little laptop to bring on my vacations.

loonieryan
Mar 8th, 2010, 11:42 AM
A couple questions. You use MediaPortal as the viewer? Where did you get the .ax file? I download the files for MPC (thought thats where it was from), but no luck.

Edit: Found the file...now trying to figure out how to set it to use a single thread.

Use RadLight Filter Manager. Run it, and then look under "DirectShow Filters". There should be an entry for "MPC - Video decoder". Select that and hit the "Property Page" button.

That'll bring up the properties for the MPC Video Decoder. Set the following:
- "Decoding thread number" => 1
- "DXVA(H.264) Compatibility check" => No check

That second option replaces that registry change described in the guide that's been posted here before: http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva. So if you set it to "No check" then you don't need that registry hack.

loonieryan
Mar 8th, 2010, 12:03 PM
Love this machine, just a quick question, wondering if the US keyboard replacment (http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-1400-1410-Keyboard/dp/B000MQSX3S) would work on this unit? :?: Anyone had success with other notebooks/netbooks?

Cheers

Based on the pic of that keyboard at Amazon, it really doesn't look like it would fit the 1410. Has anyone replaced their keyboard with the one at Amazon?

Nethervue
Mar 8th, 2010, 12:21 PM
Based on the pic of that keyboard at Amazon, it really doesn't look like it would fit the 1410. Has anyone replaced their keyboard with the one at Amazon?

I ordered this one...looks like an exact match:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370320287643&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/0/7/7/5/5/6/webimg/265615351_tp.jpg

d_Ave
Mar 8th, 2010, 12:24 PM
I ordered this one...looks like an exact match:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370320287643&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/0/7/7/5/5/6/webimg/265615351_tp.jpg

You just want this for the large left shift key? Or are there other differences (besides the missing french things)?

Nethervue
Mar 8th, 2010, 12:36 PM
You just want this for the large left shift key? Or are there other differences (besides the missing french things)?

Yup! Thats pretty much it! I'm from Quebec, so not hatin on the French...but I also hate the look of that bilingual keyboard, its so cramped and messy. Just want a plain English one.

loonieryan
Mar 8th, 2010, 01:02 PM
Yup! Thats pretty much it! I'm from Quebec, so not hatin on the French...but I also hate the look of that bilingual keyboard, its so cramped and messy. Just want a plain English one.

Agreed! You got the right one from ebay, but unfortunately the seller doesn't have anymore.

That Amazon one really seems larger... I ordered it already so I'll see how it goes when it arrives.

I just with you didn't need to press Fn to access the HOME and END keys. It's really silly, but they should've put the HOME and END keys where PRINT SCR and PAUSE/BREAK are and make the latter keys accessed via Fn, since those are used less frequently than HOME and END. Weirdo layout!

steve-0101
Mar 8th, 2010, 01:23 PM
Agreed! You got the right one from ebay, but unfortunately the seller doesn't have anymore.

That Amazon one really seems larger... I ordered it already so I'll see how it goes when it arrives.

I just with you didn't need to press Fn to access the HOME and END keys. It's really silly, but they should've put the HOME and END keys where PRINT SCR and PAUSE/BREAK are and make the latter keys accessed via Fn, since those are used less frequently than HOME and END. Weirdo layout!

I replaced mine with this one (seller is in Ottawa):

http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-Acer-Aspire-1410-Keyboard-for-11-6-Screen_W0QQitemZ260556744445QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA _Mice_Trackballs?hash=item3caa6466fd

And also installed this bluetooth module:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-1-Bluetooth-Module-Cable-for-Acer-Aspire-1410-1410T_W0QQitemZ170409924470QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item27ad391776

Nethervue
Mar 8th, 2010, 01:26 PM
I replaced mine with this one (seller is in Ottawa):

http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-Acer-Aspire-1410-Keyboard-for-11-6-Screen_W0QQitemZ260556744445QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA _Mice_Trackballs?hash=item3caa6466fd

Yeah, saw that one too...it was $12 bucks more...this is RFD and all, so I went the cheaper route! They looked identical and I wasn't in any rush.

82
Mar 8th, 2010, 01:33 PM
And there are the stupid [Return] and [|\] keys.


Yup! Thats pretty much it! I'm from Quebec, so not hatin on the French...but I also hate the look of that bilingual keyboard, its so cramped and messy. Just want a plain English one.

eten
Mar 8th, 2010, 01:45 PM
And there are the stupid [Return] and [|\] keys.

There are free software keyboard mappings which I did to map the [|\] to shift. Helps a little for my small hands to reach the Left Shift. Downside is it has to be turned off when you actually want to use the [|\] key.

d_Ave
Mar 8th, 2010, 01:46 PM
That shift key is a pain. I get it. :lol:

I installed XP SP3 last night. Stupid Acer doesn't have the proper WLAN drivers on the site. They list Intel and Atheros, but they're both wrong. I ended up having to open it up to find out it's an Intel 5100 WLAN chip. Oh well, not that big of a deal, just stupidity.

Having played around with the system a bit more, I am quite happy. It's quite fast. I had no problems editting my larger CS3 images.

I tested out a few games as well:

Half Life 1 - runs super smooth at 1280x720. Haven't figured out how to get it to display at native yet.
Braid - runs great, no problems.
Star Wars Battlefront 2 - Again, super smooth at 1280x720.

Haven't had a chance to try Torchlight, but I don't anticipate any issue.

bigbug
Mar 8th, 2010, 03:27 PM
There are free software keyboard mappings which I did to map the [|\] to shift. Helps a little for my small hands to reach the Left Shift. Downside is it has to be turned off when you actually want to use the [|\] key.

There is another |\ beside the return key.

strangelove9
Mar 8th, 2010, 03:28 PM
Once again, for all those of you looking to play HD content and unhappy with codec packs:

Try Splash from Mirillis.com. It even supports hardware acceleration from the 1410's Intel chipset!

I came across Splash while searching for a possibility to play the huge 1080p .MOV files produced with my Canon SX1. Every other software player choked on those files, but Splash played it flawlessly.

And it's free!

vpower
Mar 8th, 2010, 03:44 PM
Are you running Windows 7?


Once again, for all those of you looking to play HD content and unhappy with codec packs:

Try Splash from Mirillis.com. It even supports hardware acceleration from the 1410's Intel chipset!

I came across Splash while searching for a possibility to play the huge 1080p .MOV files produced with my Canon SX1. Every other software player choked on those files, but Splash played it flawlessly.

And it's free!

Nethervue
Mar 8th, 2010, 06:38 PM
Once again, for all those of you looking to play HD content and unhappy with codec packs:

Try Splash from Mirillis.com. It even supports hardware acceleration from the 1410's Intel chipset!

I came across Splash while searching for a possibility to play the huge 1080p .MOV files produced with my Canon SX1. Every other software player choked on those files, but Splash played it flawlessly.

And it's free!

Good call on Splash! Ive tried everything to make hardware acceleration work (well, thats the easy part)....more to make it look as good as software encoding. This actually works and CPU pertcentage is low. Thanks man!

82
Mar 8th, 2010, 06:46 PM
support SRT subtitles?


Good call on Splash! Ive tried everything to make hardware acceleration work (well, thats the easy part)....more to make it look as good as software encoding. This actually works and CPU pertcentage is low. Thanks man!

Nethervue
Mar 8th, 2010, 06:53 PM
support SRT subtitles?

Looks that way, there is a subtitle section and you can open SRTs.

strangelove9
Mar 8th, 2010, 07:10 PM
Are you running Windows 7?

On the 1410? Yes, I am.

I also run Splash on other machines running XP and Vista...

Hope this helps, glad to see more people are catching up.

uglyguy
Mar 8th, 2010, 07:28 PM
is this deal still on?
Thanks,

Nethervue
Mar 8th, 2010, 07:37 PM
is this deal still on?
Thanks,

If you can find one. I picked up one for a friend on Sunday...they are still out there I guess.

82
Mar 8th, 2010, 07:38 PM
We may finally have a successor for MPC-HC.


Looks that way, there is a subtitle section and you can open SRTs.

asdisme
Mar 8th, 2010, 09:47 PM
I seen many people post up tweaking threads, but can someone explain which one is more ideal to use because those threads have a ton of stuff and I don't know which tweaks to use. So basically I want to start from scratch and get the best performance, speed, battery life.

thanks

I also stumble upon this for those who don't have win7:

Installing Win7 without needing activation
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=433602
http://forum.notebookreview.com/show...9&postcount=99

Does it work?

ignoreme
Mar 8th, 2010, 10:43 PM
Installing Win7 without needing activation
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=433602


This one is perfect. I've tried, it's flawless.
No cheating, it's Acer with SLIC2.1 and qualified that OEM key.

asdisme
Mar 8th, 2010, 10:46 PM
This one is perfect. I've tried, it's flawless.
No cheating, it's Acer with SLIC2.1 and qualified that OEM key.

So what is the difference between this and getting the upgrade CD? i ordered my upgrade CD to HK, but won't be receiving till 2 weeks later. So if I use this method, do I need to use the upgrade CD afterwards and refresh install again?

komal
Mar 8th, 2010, 10:52 PM
This one is perfect. I've tried, it's flawless.
No cheating, it's Acer with SLIC2.1 and qualified that OEM key.
Huh?

You don't seem to understand what SLIC means.

SLIC doesn't give you the right to Windows7. You are entering a key somebody gave you online, and you think that isn't cheating/illegal?

I think you are very confused.

And this isn't a grey area. You didn't purchase Win7, and are using a key given by someone online, that is pretty clearly fraud.

82
Mar 8th, 2010, 11:53 PM
The difference is "the upgrade DVD" is legal. The other method is considered "pirated software".


So what is the difference between this and getting the upgrade CD? i ordered my upgrade CD to HK, but won't be receiving till 2 weeks later. So if I use this method, do I need to use the upgrade CD afterwards and refresh install again?

tenen
Mar 8th, 2010, 11:53 PM
Once again, for all those of you looking to play HD content and unhappy with codec packs:

Try Splash from Mirillis.com. It even supports hardware acceleration from the 1410's Intel chipset!

I came across Splash while searching for a possibility to play the huge 1080p .MOV files produced with my Canon SX1. Every other software player choked on those files, but Splash played it flawlessly.

And it's free!

I have uninstalled previous codec packs and installed Splash. Do you recommend the installation of extra mkv codecs since they are not included, or is there a possibility of codec conflict?

loonieryan
Mar 8th, 2010, 11:59 PM
Once again, for all those of you looking to play HD content and unhappy with codec packs:

Try Splash from Mirillis.com. It even supports hardware acceleration from the 1410's Intel chipset!

I came across Splash while searching for a possibility to play the huge 1080p .MOV files produced with my Canon SX1. Every other software player choked on those files, but Splash played it flawlessly.

And it's free!


Are you running Windows 7?

Just tried Splash Lite (free download). Nice player, but it gives me the exact same results as MPC-HC x64 and MediaPortal (using MPCVideoDecoder). Same CPU usage, same picture quality. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if these Splash guys are using the MPC Video Decoder source code as their own decoder (since MPC is open source).

Problem is the Splash Lite version won't allow me to pass-through DTS and/or AC3 to my receiver over HDMI while I can easily do that with MPC-HC or MediaPortal (using AC3Filter external codec).

meanstreetjd
Mar 9th, 2010, 12:09 AM
If anybody wants a blue one, send me a PM

southnam
Mar 9th, 2010, 03:24 AM
I would have loved to find one of these in Ottawa

ignoreme
Mar 9th, 2010, 03:41 AM
Huh?

You don't seem to understand what SLIC means.

SLIC doesn't give you the right to Windows7. You are entering a key somebody gave you online, and you think that isn't cheating/illegal?

I think you are very confused.

And this isn't a grey area. You didn't purchase Win7, and are using a key given by someone online, that is pretty clearly fraud.

Have I said it's legal? Have a try, that's all. I have enough Win7 HP key, legal. I just want to see how ultimate works. Won't actually use it.
"No cheating" means you don't need to "make a false SLIC2.1 BIOS" to activate Windows 7 offline. I only point out this: the way to take OEM key is OK, but it's your risk to use.

asdisme
Mar 9th, 2010, 12:02 PM
Any number that I can call to get customer service or someone that deals with the Win7 upgrade? The tech people sucks @** and keep telling me I won't be able to order the disc to Hong Kong if the notebook is bought in Canada... But I was able to order the first disc fine.. (Don't want to pay double the shipping)

ignoreme
Mar 9th, 2010, 01:58 PM
Any number that I can call to get customer service or someone that deals with the Win7 upgrade? The tech people sucks @** and keep telling me I won't be able to order the disc to Hong Kong if the notebook is bought in Canada... But I was able to order the first disc fine.. (Don't want to pay double the shipping)

If the SN is qualified for upgrading, you won't pay more. You need to give a purchase date before 31 Jan. and give an address in HK. You will be charged $19 for the delivery and tax, but never twice. Acer's CSR know nothing about the mechanism of this Windows 7 upgrade. A third party company, authorized by MS and manufactures, do this job. The difference among manufactures is the policy for upgrading: charge or not and document requirement.

For Acer, they share their SN info with the third party company thus it can be verified online then process the order. No proof of purchase need.

But for LENOVO, they don't share their SN info, you need to upload a proof of purchase and will be manually processed. (it's a joke at first LENOVO didn't ask for proof of purchase, you only need to claim it...and after MS and LENOVO realized this, they had to ask for POP. And someone reported that he uploaded a girl's photo instead and got approved...they just don't have enough resource to deal with this manually checking)

asdisme
Mar 9th, 2010, 02:08 PM
If the SN is qualified for upgrading, you won't pay more. You need to give a purchase date before 31 Jan. and give an address in HK. You will be charged $19 for the delivery and tax, but never twice. Acer's CSR know nothing about the mechanism of this Windows 7 upgrade. A third party company, authorized by MS and manufactures, do this job. The difference among manufactures is the policy for upgrading: charge or not and document requirement.

For Acer, they share their SN info with the third party company thus it can be verified online then process the order. No proof of purchase need.

But for LENOVO, they don't share their SN info, you need to upload a proof of purchase and will be manually processed. (it's a joke at first LENOVO didn't ask for proof of purchase, you only need to claim it...and after MS and LENOVO realized this, they had to ask for POP. And someone reported that he uploaded a girl's photo instead and got approved...they just don't have enough resource to deal with this manually checking)

Yeah I understand what you are saying, but what happened was when I ordered win7 for 1 of my notebook, I forgot to add my 2nd notebook into the order to get 2 cds for 1 shipping of $20. I'm trying to call them to tell them to hold the shippment and let me re-add my 2nd SN, so I don't have to pay another $20 for the other cd. Stupid me :(

ignoreme
Mar 9th, 2010, 02:27 PM
Yeah I understand what you are saying, but what happened was when I ordered win7 for 1 of my notebook, I forgot to add my 2nd notebook into the order to get 2 cds for 1 shipping of $20. I'm trying to call them to tell them to hold the shippment and let me re-add my 2nd SN, so I don't have to pay another $20 for the other cd. Stupid me :(

Acer can do nothing about this. Why not call that company? But I don't think you can save this $20. Make another order before Mar. 15, that's your last chance to get a legal Windows 7.

Darkstar77
Mar 9th, 2010, 03:05 PM
I got the last one in Cobourg. There are none in Peterborough or Lindsay. Bellville is showing 2 black ones in stock still.

R.e. Win 7 upgrade, you just have to ask for it, and its free.

asdisme
Mar 9th, 2010, 03:09 PM
Acer can do nothing about this. Why not call that company? But I don't think you can save this $20. Make another order before Mar. 15, that's your last chance to get a legal Windows 7.

The media corp that handles this win7 upgrade and such don't have toll free number, so i emailed them. Hopefully they can reply back with good news and ship my 2nd disc for free :). But if not I might just have to pay another $20... I should of double checked before clicking submit (Hate myself for not double checking... :mad:)

ignoreme
Mar 10th, 2010, 04:47 AM
I have 2x1GB DDR2 800MHz, is that good to replace the 2+1GB DDR2 667MHz? I assume due chanel comes from same make and size?

Mepoor
Mar 10th, 2010, 08:11 AM
Maybe a dumb question here -
after upgrading the Acer 1410 to Win 7 Home Premium from Vista, do I still need to (is it recommended) install a third party Firewall program (COMODO?)and email security (free AVG?)? Or does Win 7 finally have built in security software I can depend on? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

82
Mar 10th, 2010, 08:44 AM
Firewall is optional (win7 already has a basic one) but you definitely want a Antivirus software. You can use Microsoft Security Essential, or other free AV like AVG, Avast, Comodo.


Maybe a dumb question here -
after upgrading the Acer 1410 to Win 7 Home Premium from Vista, do I still need to (is it recommended) install a third party Firewall program (COMODO?)and email security (free AVG?)? Or does Win 7 finally have built in security software I can depend on? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

pigqq
Mar 10th, 2010, 09:10 AM
Firewall is optional (win7 already has a basic one) but you definitely want a Antivirus software. You can use Microsoft Security Essential, or other free AV like AVG, Avast, Comodo.

Windows 7's firewall is very powerful, not just a basic one as XP's. There are many advanced options as third party firewall.:cheesygri

d_Ave
Mar 10th, 2010, 09:11 AM
R.e. Win 7 upgrade, you just have to ask for it, and its free.

Based on the responses in this thread, including my own experience, a very few number of people are having success with that.

ralph_sinclair
Mar 10th, 2010, 09:44 AM
There's no harm in asking. I bought this machine last night and they gave me the free Win7 upgrade dvd's.

Can anyone suggest whether I should install the 64-bit version (if it will even let me?). The Vista on the machine is 32-bit. I'll be sticking with the included 3gb of RAM.

I sometimes like to install things like virtual DVD drives, and I'm thinking maybe 64-bit windows will be less tolerant of non-WHQL drivers?

d_Ave
Mar 10th, 2010, 10:33 AM
There's no harm in asking. I bought this machine last night and they gave me the free Win7 upgrade dvd's.

Can anyone suggest whether I should install the 64-bit version (if it will even let me?). The Vista on the machine is 32-bit. I'll be sticking with the included 3gb of RAM.

I sometimes like to install things like virtual DVD drives, and I'm thinking maybe 64-bit windows will be less tolerant of non-WHQL drivers?

There certainly is no harm in asking. I am just pointing out that it's not a certainty for everyone. If you were lucky, that's great!

cell567
Mar 10th, 2010, 10:36 AM
There's no harm in asking. I bought this machine last night and they gave me the free Win7 upgrade dvd's.

Can anyone suggest whether I should install the 64-bit version (if it will even let me?). The Vista on the machine is 32-bit. I'll be sticking with the included 3gb of RAM.

I sometimes like to install things like virtual DVD drives, and I'm thinking maybe 64-bit windows will be less tolerant of non-WHQL drivers?

Mind sharing where you bought your machine. Still looking for one in the Toronto/Mississauga area...

asdisme
Mar 10th, 2010, 11:02 AM
Went to check if I can gt the upgrade cd at university and queen. But the guy said that upgrade only applies to clearance computers on the board. Gonna have to test my luck at another location or another time with a different rep. :(

bigbug
Mar 10th, 2010, 11:20 AM
There's no harm in asking. I bought this machine last night and they gave me the free Win7 upgrade dvd's.

Can anyone suggest whether I should install the 64-bit version (if it will even let me?). The Vista on the machine is 32-bit. I'll be sticking with the included 3gb of RAM.

I sometimes like to install things like virtual DVD drives, and I'm thinking maybe 64-bit windows will be less tolerant of non-WHQL drivers?

It really depends on stores. The store manager told me Staples had never given out free win7 upgrade DVDs when I asked.

ignoreme
Mar 10th, 2010, 11:21 AM
I have 2x1GB DDR2 800MHz, is that good to replace the 2+1GB DDR2 667MHz? I assume due chanel comes from same make and size?

Done a test:
2 1410 with Win7 Ultimate (one is the ghost of the other so it's exactly the same). One with 2+1=3GB 667 and one with 2x1G 800. The 2x1G one is 4 seconds faster (28 vs 32) than 2+1G one during turning on. And Win7 gives 800MHz a score of 5.1 other than 667MHz's 4.9?

So, no question about the speed. 1410 support 800MHZ RAM, performance better. I just don't know the faster speed should thank more for faster frequency or dual channel?

The other issue is, the 2x1G RAM can only supply 797MB max to GMA4500MHD, but 2+1=3G one 12XXMB. I don't know if 797MB is enough for HD playing. I know the bandwidth is larger so it's better. But I do see it's at the top when do HD playing, and 2+2=3G one not at the top (9XXMB).

Windows 7 Ultimate comes with DirectX 11. I think this could help HD playing?

Many thanks.

Balanar08
Mar 10th, 2010, 12:57 PM
Went to check if I can gt the upgrade cd at university and queen. But the guy said that upgrade only applies to clearance computers on the board. Gonna have to test my luck at another location or another time with a different rep. :(

Well maybe you got a bad Csr. But there were great deals on some of their laptops and Pcs..

adobedream
Mar 10th, 2010, 01:30 PM
got this for $347 last month and i thought that was a great deal, wish price protection was more than 14 days :s

strangelove9
Mar 10th, 2010, 04:03 PM
Hi folks,

I posted a standalone thread (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/tscc-all-netbook-laptop-bags-40-off-864353/), but it's worth mentioning here as well:

If you got one of these ACER 1410 machines, head on to The Source and get the 10" Targus netbook bag - despite the advertised size, it will be more than enough to fit the 1410, plus its power supply, a slim external DVD -RW and an external HDD.

The original price is around $40 (see http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/targus-city-gear-10-nylon-netbook-case-tst034ca/10113709.aspx?path=c94d921450a4b5f22a8b370a8300d74 fen02 ),
but with this promotion, you should be able to get it for about $27 tax included.

I got one, it's perfect.

d_Ave
Mar 10th, 2010, 04:14 PM
Hi folks,

I posted a standalone thread (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/tscc-all-netbook-laptop-bags-40-off-864353/), but it's worth mentioning here as well:

If you got one of these ACER 1410 machines, head on to The Source and get the 10" Targus netbook bag - despite the advertised size, it will be more than enough to fit the 1410, plus its power supply, a slim external DVD -RW and an external HDD.

The original price is around $40 (see http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/targus-city-gear-10-nylon-netbook-case-tst034ca/10113709.aspx?path=c94d921450a4b5f22a8b370a8300d74 fen02 ),
but with this promotion, you should be able to get it for about $27 tax included.

I got one, it's perfect.

That's quite a nice bag (hah). I will have to go have a look to see if there is stock at the local Source. Thanks.

strangelove9
Mar 10th, 2010, 04:16 PM
One more link for you folks...

In case you wonder how this laptop would fare in many current games, here's the overview:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Graphics-Media-Accelerator-4500MHD-GMA-X4500MHD.9883.0.html

Personally, I can vouch for Serious Sam 1, SE and 2, Quake 2 & 3, Undying, Unreal & Unreal Tournament and a few other older games - they will definitely play beautifully (although you'll have to scale back on some of the Serious Sam 2 eye-candy)

Nethervue
Mar 10th, 2010, 04:18 PM
Hi folks,

I posted a standalone thread (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/tscc-all-netbook-laptop-bags-40-off-864353/), but it's worth mentioning here as well:

If you got one of these ACER 1410 machines, head on to The Source and get the 10" Targus netbook bag - despite the advertised size, it will be more than enough to fit the 1410, plus its power supply, a slim external DVD -RW and an external HDD.

The original price is around $40 (see http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/targus-city-gear-10-nylon-netbook-case-tst034ca/10113709.aspx?path=c94d921450a4b5f22a8b370a8300d74 fen02 ),
but with this promotion, you should be able to get it for about $27 tax included.

I got one, it's perfect.

http://www.thesource.ca/estore/Product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=NotebookCase&product=2616577

strangelove9
Mar 10th, 2010, 04:22 PM
http://www.thesource.ca/estore/Product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=NotebookCase&product=2616577

Thank you for posting the TSCC link... the search function on their website didn't work for me.

There might be some PM opportunities with FS & BB?

asdisme
Mar 10th, 2010, 04:24 PM
Went back to the same store after talking to another manager at another store. Complained that majority of clearance deals have win 7 already and I bought mine last week and it isn't a netbook, tech guy said it is a netbook, I had to google that $h** for him using their comp. Got the tech guy to shut up and walked out with my win7! To all those who didn't get it. Tell them a manager at another store said it is eligible.

Nethervue
Mar 10th, 2010, 06:06 PM
Thank you for posting the TSCC link... the search function on their website didn't work for me.

There might be some PM opportunities with FS & BB?

I just went and looked at it in person, its a nice bag and all but it looks a wee too much like a purse for me!

Nethervue
Mar 10th, 2010, 06:11 PM
I ordered this one...looks like an exact match:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370320287643&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/0/7/7/5/5/6/webimg/265615351_tp.jpg


New keyboard came today, I'm in love!! What a night and day difference!

qaz393
Mar 10th, 2010, 06:13 PM
u guys can save a bit more and buy the 751 keyboard. i bought that one and its the same keyboard.

RFDeal_or_NoDeal
Mar 10th, 2010, 08:09 PM
New keyboard came today, I'm in love!! What a day and night difference!
Does it come with the instructions how to take out the old and install the new keyboard?

Nethervue
Mar 10th, 2010, 08:20 PM
Does it come with the instructions how to take out the old and install the new keyboard?

No, but it couldn't be easier. With a small micro flathead screwdriver, there are four tabs at the top of the keyboard. Push those in gently and the keyboard lifts out. I couldn't type worth a damn before, I was always hitting the wrong keys...this one is perfect. The backspace, left shift, and the enter are perfect!

EDIT: Tabs like these..

http://vpbq5g.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pZBp1GFbZBMQ1YAqSjwm-cBTKi0r6WS5emBL0SwcI3hn-eRhYhdG-_Xs6PF-4nar7jIswujgRjE3WdYC1pfKlDPX74xbpcqJO/DSC01102.jpg

RFDeal_or_NoDeal
Mar 10th, 2010, 08:23 PM
No, but it couldn't be easier. With a small micro flathead screwdriver, there are four tabs at the top of the keyboard. Push those in gently and the keyboard lifts out. I couldn't type worth a damn before, I was always hitting the wrong keys...this one is perfect. The backspace, left shift, and the enter are perfect!
Thanks. Appreciated very much with the clear picture.

man
Mar 10th, 2010, 10:06 PM
Went back to the same store after talking to another manager at another store. Complained that majority of clearance deals have win 7 already and I bought mine last week and it isn't a netbook, tech guy said it is a netbook, I had to google that $h** for him using their comp. Got the tech guy to shut up and walked out with my win7! To all those who didn't get it. Tell them a manager at another store said it is eligible.

hi
i talked to my staples for win7 disk at airport and hw7 they said they have to install it which makes it a bronze package means $89. i was told they cannot give disk to me its illegal. had to be installed by tech guy at staples.
any suggestions.
thanks

asdisme
Mar 10th, 2010, 10:14 PM
hi
i talked to my staples for win7 disk at airport and hw7 they said they have to install it which makes it a bronze package means $89. i was told they cannot give disk to me its illegal. had to be installed by tech guy at staples.
any suggestions.
thanks

What you should do is tell the people to look at the ad that clearly states "Free upgrade to win7 home premium with purchase of any vista computer". I am assuming yours is within 2 weeks of purchase? Tell them if you return it and repurchase the computer, you would be eligible for sure?

man
Mar 10th, 2010, 10:23 PM
What you should do is tell the people to look at the ad that clearly states "Free upgrade to win7 home premium with purchase of any vista computer". I am assuming yours is within 2 weeks of purchase? Tell them if you return it and repurchase the computer, you would be eligible for sure?

hi
i bought it on march 6,and staples was saying its illegal to give me the disk?

asdisme
Mar 10th, 2010, 10:28 PM
hi
i bought it on march 6,and staples was saying its illegal to give me the disk?

I don't know why it would be illegal, even if they have to install it for you. It should be free because the ad says they will upgrade it for free. Try to talk to a manager or another rep.

man
Mar 10th, 2010, 10:39 PM
I don't know why it would be illegal, even if they have to install it for you. It should be free because the ad says they will upgrade it for free. Try to talk to a manager or another rep.

hi
where is the add, can i get picture of it or link please
thanks

asdisme
Mar 10th, 2010, 10:40 PM
hi
where is the add, can i get picture of it or link please
thanks

I don't have picture, but the location I went to has a ad on top of the clearance deals

ignoreme
Mar 10th, 2010, 10:45 PM
I don't know why it would be illegal, even if they have to install it for you. It should be free because the ad says they will upgrade it for free. Try to talk to a manager or another rep.

O??? Where is the flyer? Can you give a link or a photo? Thanks. Tomorrow is my last day. Would like to get it without YMMV. Thanks.

ignoreme
Mar 10th, 2010, 10:47 PM
I don't have picture, but the location I went to has a ad on top of the clearance deals

So it's YMMV again....DXXX
Where is your store? Intersection? I will call them if I cannot get it at my store...

man
Mar 10th, 2010, 10:48 PM
I don't have picture, but the location I went to has a ad on top of the clearance deals

i guess i have to go to staple tomorrow to check the add.
thanks

bigbug
Mar 10th, 2010, 10:54 PM
I don't have picture, but the location I went to has a ad on top of the clearance deals

It'd be a lot easier for other RFDers if you just tell us what store it is. One of us maybe able to take a pic of the ad. and share with the rest of us.

asdisme
Mar 10th, 2010, 11:06 PM
You can only pick up the upgrade from the store you bought the computer from. I got my upgrade from Queen and University location, which is where I bought my notebook. Drop by the store check out the clearance chart and on top of it, it should state the free upgrade. Before you make any movement, ask them what is the eligibility for the upgrade, they will say any computer with window vista will be eligible. After they state that tell them straight up, I bought this and it came with window vista. I had one rep tell me that it only applies to clearance comps only.. But when I looked at the chart majority of the comps being sold already have win7... so it doesn't make sense..

ignoreme
Mar 11th, 2010, 12:04 AM
You can only pick up the upgrade from the store you bought the computer from. I got my upgrade from Queen and University location, which is where I bought my notebook. Drop by the store check out the clearance chart and on top of it, it should state the free upgrade. Before you make any movement, ask them what is the eligibility for the upgrade, they will say any computer with window vista will be eligible. After they state that tell them straight up, I bought this and it came with window vista. I had one rep tell me that it only applies to clearance comps only.. But when I looked at the chart majority of the comps being sold already have win7... so it doesn't make sense..

Let me try tomorrow. Thanks.

82
Mar 11th, 2010, 12:13 AM
how heavy is the case?


Hi folks,

I posted a standalone thread (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/tscc-all-netbook-laptop-bags-40-off-864353/), but it's worth mentioning here as well:

If you got one of these ACER 1410 machines, head on to The Source and get the 10" Targus netbook bag - despite the advertised size, it will be more than enough to fit the 1410, plus its power supply, a slim external DVD -RW and an external HDD.

The original price is around $40 (see http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/targus-city-gear-10-nylon-netbook-case-tst034ca/10113709.aspx?path=c94d921450a4b5f22a8b370a8300d74 fen02 ),
but with this promotion, you should be able to get it for about $27 tax included.

I got one, it's perfect.

asdisme
Mar 11th, 2010, 12:17 AM
So I need some assistance, I'm not quite sure how to install this win7 on my notebook lol. :lol:

I read that I can't fresh install this without downgrading to XP? Also should I install 32 or 64?

82
Mar 11th, 2010, 12:18 AM
where is the ad?

Edit: nevermind


I don't know why it would be illegal, even if they have to install it for you. It should be free because the ad says they will upgrade it for free. Try to talk to a manager or another rep.

asdisme
Mar 11th, 2010, 12:21 AM
where is the ad?

It is in store ad, you have to be there to see it. Online/Flyer does not have it. I believe it is the final push to push all the vista machines out. Since the Acers we bought are Vista, we should qualify.

loonieryan
Mar 11th, 2010, 01:37 AM
I've ultimately conceded to the fact that the Acer Aspire 1410 just can't handle high bitrate 1080p video smoothly. I have a few very high bitrate 1080p MKV rips, such as The Dark Knight (before you scream piracy please know that I own the BluRay).

I've tried everything:
- Shark007
- ffdshow DXVA
- CoreAVC software decoding
- Splash Lite DXVA
- XBMC DXVA, and with MPC decoder
- MediaPortal with MPC decoder, PowerDVD 8 decoders, ffdshow DXVA decoder
- MPC 32-bit, 64-bit
- Windows Media Player with MPC decoder 32-bit, Microsoft DTV-DVD decoder
- Windows Media Center with MPC decoder 64-bit, Microsoft DTV-DVD decoder

Ironically I get the best results with Windows Media Player, using the latest Haali Media Splitter and the latest & greatest 32-bit MPC video decoder. Even still, it isn't perfectly smooth and there are plenty occasions of noticeable frame dropping. CPU usage is still 20-30% which is good for this system, and I'd be happy if only video was smooth and perfect.

Strangely the exact same GPU on my dual core Toshiba laptop handles the same videos perfectly and without breaking a sweat.

The Acer Aspire 1410 isn't cut out to be a media player, what with it's HDMI and SPDIF outputs. Good thing I didn't get this for media use, and really only got it for my wife to browse the web and run simple apps on.

ejohan
Mar 11th, 2010, 04:19 AM
I don't know why it would be illegal, even if they have to install it for you. It should be free because the ad says they will upgrade it for free. Try to talk to a manager or another rep.

From what I know about this offer, it's not illegal under the law but under the licence contract, as the Staples Windows 7 is a "service bench" licence; it must be installed by the retailer. Whether or not they want to charge you for this seems to be up to the store. Not all stores are offering this 'free with any Vista computer', in fact it seems like most aren't... it's really YMMV.

Mepoor
Mar 11th, 2010, 08:13 AM
...If you got one of these ACER 1410 machines, head on to The Source and get the 10" Targus netbook bag - despite the advertised size, it will be more than enough to fit the 1410, plus its power supply, a slim external DVD -RW and an external HDD.

The original price is around $40 (see http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/targus-city-gear-10-nylon-netbook-case-tst034ca/10113709.aspx?path=c94d921450a4b5f22a8b370a8300d74 fen02 ),
but with this promotion, you should be able to get it for about $27 tax included...Here's the Notebook Carry Bag I got from Factory Direct (http://factorydirect.ca/catalog/product_spec.php?pcode=LB7163). It's only $9.99 and it has room for everything even though it is a smaller bag. Not all that fancy looking but it fits up to a 15" notebook and the ACER 1410 11.6" pits perfectly into one of the inside zippered punches for a perfect fit to prevent it sliding around inside the bag. Fully padded, it has three internal large spaces for all sorts of stuff like files and small books, with several mesh sleeves/ zipper pockets for mouse, power cord, slim ex DVD, cell, pens, business cards, etc. Also has an external zip side sleeve. Comes in Black and Grey c/w shoulder strap. The carry handles are aluminum. It's expndable and very light weight!

At $9.99 the Sales guy said it was the best notebook deal in the store.
The picture below does NOT do it justice - you really need to go take a look at it.
SKU# LB7163 for Black and #LB1638 for the Grey

http://factorydirect.ca/images/specs/LB7163.jpg

d_Ave
Mar 11th, 2010, 09:18 AM
I've ultimately conceded to the fact that the Acer Aspire 1410 just can't handle high bitrate 1080p video smoothly. I have a few very high bitrate 1080p MKV rips, such as The Dark Knight (before you scream piracy please know that I own the BluRay).

I've tried everything:
- Shark007
- ffdshow DXVA
- CoreAVC software decoding
- Splash Lite DXVA
- XBMC DXVA, and with MPC decoder
- MediaPortal with MPC decoder, PowerDVD 8 decoders, ffdshow DXVA decoder
- MPC 32-bit, 64-bit
- Windows Media Player with MPC decoder 32-bit, Microsoft DTV-DVD decoder
- Windows Media Center with MPC decoder 64-bit, Microsoft DTV-DVD decoder

Ironically I get the best results with Windows Media Player, using the latest Haali Media Splitter and the latest & greatest 32-bit MPC video decoder. Even still, it isn't perfectly smooth and there are plenty occasions of noticeable frame dropping. CPU usage is still 20-30% which is good for this system, and I'd be happy if only video was smooth and perfect.

Strangely the exact same GPU on my dual core Toshiba laptop handles the same videos perfectly and without breaking a sweat.

The Acer Aspire 1410 isn't cut out to be a media player, what with it's HDMI and SPDIF outputs. Good thing I didn't get this for media use, and really only got it for my wife to browse the web and run simple apps on.

That's a real shame. Curious note though (this a bit unrelated). I experience a similar issue while playing original half life. Test all the resolutions, up and down with different settings, system drops frames every few seconds. It doesn't appear to be taxed in any way. Not sure what the heck is going on. Obviously a different use of the CPU/GPU, but it's still curious.

asdisme
Mar 11th, 2010, 09:20 AM
From what I know about this offer, it's not illegal under the law but under the licence contract, as the Staples Windows 7 is a "service bench" licence; it must be installed by the retailer. Whether or not they want to charge you for this seems to be up to the store. Not all stores are offering this 'free with any Vista computer', in fact it seems like most aren't... it's really YMMV.

There were 2 stores that I saw this deal. So if any of you guys are downtown goto the king station staples or the one on university and queen. Both has ads in store about the offer. The dvd does say must be installed by technician, which they tried to do without charging me and insisted that I had to. But i asked them if they would provide back up for vista and they let leave with the disc. They provided me with a choice of free upgrade by them or diy in the end.

82
Mar 11th, 2010, 09:56 AM
Is your Win7 a fresh install or from Acer with its craps? Probably some crapwares are conflicting with one of your codec pack.

What CPU does your Toshiba has?


I've ultimately conceded to the fact that the Acer Aspire 1410 just can't handle high bitrate 1080p video smoothly. I have a few very high bitrate 1080p MKV rips, such as The Dark Knight (before you scream piracy please know that I own the BluRay).

I've tried everything:
- Shark007
- ffdshow DXVA
- CoreAVC software decoding
- Splash Lite DXVA
- XBMC DXVA, and with MPC decoder
- MediaPortal with MPC decoder, PowerDVD 8 decoders, ffdshow DXVA decoder
- MPC 32-bit, 64-bit
- Windows Media Player with MPC decoder 32-bit, Microsoft DTV-DVD decoder
- Windows Media Center with MPC decoder 64-bit, Microsoft DTV-DVD decoder

Ironically I get the best results with Windows Media Player, using the latest Haali Media Splitter and the latest & greatest 32-bit MPC video decoder. Even still, it isn't perfectly smooth and there are plenty occasions of noticeable frame dropping. CPU usage is still 20-30% which is good for this system, and I'd be happy if only video was smooth and perfect.

Strangely the exact same GPU on my dual core Toshiba laptop handles the same videos perfectly and without breaking a sweat.

The Acer Aspire 1410 isn't cut out to be a media player, what with it's HDMI and SPDIF outputs. Good thing I didn't get this for media use, and really only got it for my wife to browse the web and run simple apps on.

Nethervue
Mar 11th, 2010, 10:01 AM
Originally Posted by loonieryan
I've ultimately conceded to the fact that the Acer Aspire 1410 just can't handle high bitrate 1080p video smoothly. I have a few very high bitrate 1080p MKV rips, such as The Dark Knight (before you scream piracy please know that I own the BluRay).

I've tried everything:
- Shark007
- ffdshow DXVA
- CoreAVC software decoding
- Splash Lite DXVA
- XBMC DXVA, and with MPC decoder
- MediaPortal with MPC decoder, PowerDVD 8 decoders, ffdshow DXVA decoder
- MPC 32-bit, 64-bit
- Windows Media Player with MPC decoder 32-bit, Microsoft DTV-DVD decoder
- Windows Media Center with MPC decoder 64-bit, Microsoft DTV-DVD decoder

Ive played a few 1080p movies now, no issues. You ranted about installing codec packs, but you may as well have yourself with all the different installs you have going on! I'll try Batman and report back.

82
Mar 11th, 2010, 10:17 AM
Nethervue, what's your setup?


Ive played a few 1080p movies now, no issues. You ranted about installing codec packs, but you may as well have yourself with all the different installs you have going on! I'll try Batman and report back.

Nethervue
Mar 11th, 2010, 10:22 AM
Nethervue, what's your setup?

Clean install of Windows 7, updated video drivers, direct x, and installed Splash Lite. I haven't tried Batman, but I've played through Toy Story 2 and Ice Age 3 and have tried a couple others (granted not the whole movie) and they played fine. Maybe Batman is different, not sure...I will report back though.

82
Mar 11th, 2010, 10:25 AM
Will Microsoft Update take care of DX update? Did you download the video driver from Intel or Acer? Thanks


Clean install of Windows 7, updated video drivers, direct x, and installed Splash Lite. I haven't tried Batman, but I've played through Toy Story 2 and Ice Age 3 and have tried a couple others (granted not the whole movie) and they played fine. Maybe Batman is different, not sure...I will report back though.

d_Ave
Mar 11th, 2010, 11:13 AM
Is there a newer video driver than the one that Acer lists on the site?

qaz393
Mar 11th, 2010, 11:33 AM
go to intel site.

loonieryan
Mar 11th, 2010, 11:33 AM
Is your Win7 a fresh install or from Acer with its craps? Probably some crapwares are conflicting with one of your codec pack.

What CPU does your Toshiba has?

Clean install of Windows 7 64-bit, tweaked. Very few background processes and services running. No crapware on my system guaranteed. I even disabled my real-time antivirus (ESET) while testing. Latest GPU drivers from Intel, latest drivers for everything else as well.

Toshiba laptop has a 2.16 GHz dual core, T3400. Also running Win7 64-bit, tweaked the same way as the Acer Aspire. Both systems are identical software-wise.


Ive played a few 1080p movies now, no issues. You ranted about installing codec packs, but you may as well have yourself with all the different installs you have going on! I'll try Batman and report back.

Have you ever heard of Acronis True Image? I use that and it's Try & Decide feature to install crap, when it doesn't work I revert my system back. At no point did I have all of the crap I listed installed simultaneously. I would try one thing, and if it didn't work discard and revert my system back to it's original state.

Right now all I have on my system is:
- Haali Media Splitter (latest)
- Mpc video and audio decoders registered (latest & greatest)
- MPC-HC 64-bit (latest & greatest) stand-alone, not installed
- Windows Media Player and Windows Media Center configured to use MpcVideoDecoder via Win7DSFilterTweaker

It's as clean as it can get. Most videos play smoothly, however the higher bitrate ones drop frames. Open your EVR renderer properties while playing a high bitrate 1080p and watch the count of "dropped frames". In fact, it's easily noticeable by visual inspection. Even my audio gets choppy during heavy scenes, especially during The Dark Knight IMAX opening sequences (bank robbery).

adobedream
Mar 11th, 2010, 11:38 AM
thanks for this, i got the bag at best buy, so back i go for a PM.


Hi folks,

I posted a standalone thread (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/tscc-all-netbook-laptop-bags-40-off-864353/), but it's worth mentioning here as well:

If you got one of these ACER 1410 machines, head on to The Source and get the 10" Targus netbook bag - despite the advertised size, it will be more than enough to fit the 1410, plus its power supply, a slim external DVD -RW and an external HDD.

The original price is around $40 (see http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/targus-city-gear-10-nylon-netbook-case-tst034ca/10113709.aspx?path=c94d921450a4b5f22a8b370a8300d74 fen02 ),
but with this promotion, you should be able to get it for about $27 tax included.

I got one, it's perfect.

d_Ave
Mar 11th, 2010, 12:11 PM
go to intel site.

Thanks for that... happens it doesn't load on my phone as I already tried. ***** .

ralph_sinclair
Mar 11th, 2010, 12:24 PM
loonieryan,

Thanks for all your work on this.

Three questions:

Have you tried playing back high-bitrate 1080p with 32-bit windows 7?

What do you know about the memory subsystem of your working Toshiba? Is its memory dual-channel, or 800MHz? The 1410 is 667MHz single channel I think? Is it possible the 4500MHD on the Toshiba could be running at a higher bitrate than the 1400's?

Finally, the 1400 can only run one thread at once (single core, no HT). Could this be the cause?

ignoreme
Mar 11th, 2010, 12:27 PM
After I installed Ultimate I notice that the battery management goes crazy.

Ultimate bundle DirectX 11.

I also learned from some forums that SU3500 fails to run hi-bit HD and duo-core one does. Just don't know why if the GPU is the same and should hardware accelerated instead of CPU. Maybe GMA4500MHD doesn't take all part of work and left some to CPU.

But anyway, 1410 is good for low-bit HD. I am not a HD fans I just use it to watch some "online 720P" on LCD TV.

ignoreme
Mar 11th, 2010, 12:36 PM
Anyone can call to check the SKU, if price drop again? This is my last day of 14-day-return. Thanks in advance. No free access to a phone...
Blue SKU - 822142
Black SKU - 822133
Red SKU - 822144

exnihilio13
Mar 11th, 2010, 12:42 PM
I called Gatineau Staples to see if any of these were in stock and they only had the black in stock but it was "defective"
What I was told at the time though is that this was "regular price" not clearance price so I doubt you'll find the price get any better before they'll liquidated.

ex


Anyone can call to check the SKU, if price drop again? This is my last day of 14-day-return. Thanks in advance. No free access to a phone...
Blue SKU - 822142
Black SKU - 822133
Red SKU - 822144

ji2o0k
Mar 11th, 2010, 01:07 PM
Anyone can call to check the SKU, if price drop again? This is my last day of 14-day-return. Thanks in advance. No free access to a phone...
Blue SKU - 822142
Black SKU - 822133
Red SKU - 822144lucky man....you got one and hoping for another price drop? Some of us can't even get one....

But if you decide to not keep it, let me know and I will take it off your hands (hopefully it isn't busted up or something)....

ignoreme
Mar 11th, 2010, 01:56 PM
lucky man....you got one and hoping for another price drop? Some of us can't even get one....

But if you decide to not keep it, let me know and I will take it off your hands (hopefully it isn't busted up or something)....

Thanks. I don't have more. Only 2 and one of these is Demo and with scratch and dent.

I got the famous $89 junk USB extension on March 1st, maybe I can have 3 more days to test my luck? Staple has to make it returned then sold with this bonus package, thus my purchase date postpone to Mar 1st. Is my assumption right?

ji2o0k
Mar 11th, 2010, 04:03 PM
Thanks. I don't have more. Only 2 and one of these is Demo and with scratch and dent.
nice man ! you got 2! unfortunately i can't help with your other question....but good find nonetheless!

loonieryan
Mar 11th, 2010, 04:35 PM
loonieryan,

Thanks for all your work on this.

Three questions:

Have you tried playing back high-bitrate 1080p with 32-bit windows 7?

What do you know about the memory subsystem of your working Toshiba? Is its memory dual-channel, or 800MHz? The 1410 is 667MHz single channel I think? Is it possible the 4500MHD on the Toshiba could be running at a higher bitrate than the 1400's?

Finally, the 1400 can only run one thread at once (single core, no HT). Could this be the cause?

I have not tried a 32-bit Windows 7, but I would expect the results to be the same or worse. I am using 64-bit native applications on Windows 7 64-bit to test with, e.g. MPC-HC 64-bit, Windows Media Center. Those apps should run as good as, if not better than, a 32-bit application running on a 32-bit OS.

My Toshiba's memory is also running at 667MHz, but I believe it's dual channel. The 4500MHD on the Toshiba is likely running at the same rate, but who knows for certain.


After I installed Ultimate I notice that the battery management goes crazy.

Ultimate bundle DirectX 11.

I also learned from some forums that SU3500 fails to run hi-bit HD and duo-core one does. Just don't know why if the GPU is the same and should hardware accelerated instead of CPU. Maybe GMA4500MHD doesn't take all part of work and left some to CPU.

But anyway, 1410 is good for low-bit HD. I am not a HD fans I just use it to watch some "online 720P" on LCD TV.

Based on all of my testing it is impossible to run high-bitrate 1080p content on the 1410 without dropping frames.

If somebody figures out how to run 1080p high bitrate video smoothly and perfectly without dropping frames please do share your configuration.

frogger
Mar 11th, 2010, 05:43 PM
Based on all of my testing it is impossible to run high-bitrate 1080p content on the 1410 without dropping frames.

If somebody figures out how to run 1080p high bitrate video smoothly and perfectly without dropping frames please do share your configuration.

This worked for me http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=399952 though my 1080p movie mkv's are all ~12gb or less

asdisme
Mar 11th, 2010, 07:39 PM
I'm just wondering how to install this win7. Do I need to buy the external DVD drive to install it? I heard there was a usb way, but how do I extract the files from DVD into the USB (Drag and drop?).

Thanks.

Also for 1410 should we use 32 or 64 bit?

qaz393
Mar 11th, 2010, 08:42 PM
unless u are using 4gb, dont even bother with 64bit. go around microsoft website. there is a iso to usb tool there

asdisme
Mar 11th, 2010, 10:20 PM
unless u are using 4gb, dont even bother with 64bit. go around microsoft website. there is a iso to usb tool there

I guess when I decide to upgrade the 3GB to 4GB i'll reinstall it with 64bit. Thanks.

I found the iso to us tool on the site, but the thing is how can the DVD to the usb, I don't see any iso on the DVD.

ignoreme
Mar 11th, 2010, 10:33 PM
I guess when I decide to upgrade the 3GB to 4GB i'll reinstall it with 64bit. Thanks.

I found the iso to us tool on the site, but the thing is how can the DVD to the usb, I don't see any iso on the DVD.

Oops, you need to make a ISO from DVD or download one from internet. Use your key to activate, that's all.

qaz393
Mar 11th, 2010, 10:40 PM
you must legally get the copy somehow or its pirating :D

ji2o0k
Mar 12th, 2010, 09:12 AM
should this be moved to the Expired Offers section? Is anyone finding any units out there?

winstona
Mar 12th, 2010, 09:27 AM
I'm just wondering how to install this win7. Do I need to buy the external DVD drive to install it? I heard there was a usb way, but how do I extract the files from DVD into the USB (Drag and drop?).

Thanks.

Also for 1410 should we use 32 or 64 bit?

What Win7 DVD do you have? The ones from Acer (2 DVDs) or regular Microsoft ones?

Nethervue
Mar 12th, 2010, 09:33 AM
Have you ever heard of Acronis True Image?

Actually, yeah..I've tried it on this laptop when I first got it and took an image of it. I haven't tried the "Try & Decide feature" but I did try to test my image by doing a restore, but when it boots up and you click F11 to start the Acronis loader, it just loads to a black screen. Does that work for you?

d_Ave
Mar 12th, 2010, 10:31 AM
So a curious note for all people....

Running XP.. using the VGA drivers on Acer's website (I believe v6.1.etc) versus Intel's newest v9.etc. I had significantly different results. This may only affect this, so your own testing is advised.

Running Half Life classic (or Star Wars Battlefront 2), I was getting about 40 - 60 fps at any resolution (up to 1280x720). CPU usage was about 40 - 60%. When I update to the latest drivers, I was getting about 8 - 15fps at 100% CPU usage. I don't know what changed, but at least for the games I tried, it wasn't good.

Not surprisingly, the newest drivers don't always mean the best performance. For those of you trying high bit rate MKV's and such. This might be something to look into.

Nethervue
Mar 12th, 2010, 11:28 AM
So a curious note for all people....

Running XP.. using the VGA drivers on Acer's website (I believe v6.1.etc) versus Intel's newest v9.etc. I had significantly different results. This may only affect this, so your own testing is advised.

Running Half Life classic (or Star Wars Battlefront 2), I was getting about 40 - 60 fps at any resolution (up to 1280x720). CPU usage was about 40 - 60%. When I update to the latest drivers, I was getting about 8 - 15fps at 100% CPU usage. I don't know what changed, but at least for the games I tried, it wasn't good.

Not surprisingly, the newest drivers don't always mean the best performance. For those of you trying high bit rate MKV's and such. This might be something to look into.

When I was reading reviews on the 1410, I remember reading that the 1410 could not take advantage of hardware decoding with XP...you had to be Vista or above. Have you tried watching MKVs at all in XP? I don't plan on going back to XP, just curious!

d_Ave
Mar 12th, 2010, 11:32 AM
When I was reading reviews on the 1410, I remember reading that the 1410 could not take advantage of hardware decoding with XP...you had to be Vista or above. Have you tried watching MKVs at all in XP? I don't plan on going back to XP, just curious!

Actually I haven't. But I should. I will try and get back with that information.

loonieryan
Mar 12th, 2010, 11:44 AM
Actually, yeah..I've tried it on this laptop when I first got it and took an image of it. I haven't tried the "Try & Decide feature" but I did try to test my image by doing a restore, but when it boots up and you click F11 to start the Acronis loader, it just loads to a black screen. Does that work for you?

I created a bootable USB drive with Acronis 10. Works perfectly on my system. Not sure what you mean by pressing F11? I press F12 to go into boot device selection, choose my USB drive, boot into Acronis and take backups or restore backups, etc.

Try & Decide is an incredible feature. It allowed me to test all these different codecs, codec packs, media players, etc. and then scrap everything that didn't work and revert my system to a clean state.

loonieryan
Mar 12th, 2010, 11:45 AM
This worked for me http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=399952 though my 1080p movie mkv's are all ~12gb or less

I've been testing with the PowerDVD 8 codecs and DXVA wasn't working with those at all. Based on your suggestion I tested with the PowerDVD 7 codecs and DXVA works! The Dark Knight is now running well, but strangely some other videos aren't smooth, but they were smooth with the Microsoft of MPC codecs :(

I'll try rolling back the GPU drivers as suggested by another member here and test some more.

d_Ave
Mar 12th, 2010, 12:07 PM
I'll try rolling back the GPU drivers as suggested by another member here and test some more.

I would appreciate a response in that regard. I am curious, as I believe you're running Win7, if your results are similar.

frogger
Mar 12th, 2010, 12:17 PM
I've been testing with the PowerDVD 8 codecs and DXVA wasn't working with those at all. Based on your suggestion I tested with the PowerDVD 7 codecs and DXVA works! The Dark Knight is now running well, but strangely some other videos aren't smooth, but they were smooth with the Microsoft of MPC codecs :(

I'll try rolling back the GPU drivers as suggested by another member here and test some more.

Are you on the latest audio drivers too? (I think by realtek IIRC)

asdisme
Mar 12th, 2010, 12:21 PM
What Win7 DVD do you have? The ones from Acer (2 DVDs) or regular Microsoft ones?

I have the regular Microsoft ones (2 DVDs as well).

Alright need some more assistance, I did a custom install with the DVD cause I wanted to wipe out everything and make it into 1 HDD and clean install the win7. Now when I try to activate the notebook, it says it is only meant for upgrade... What can I do as I wiped out the original OEM vista pre-installed into the system? :confused:

Nethervue
Mar 12th, 2010, 01:32 PM
I created a bootable USB drive with Acronis 10. Works perfectly on my system. Not sure what you mean by pressing F11? I press F12 to go into boot device selection, choose my USB drive, boot into Acronis and take backups or restore backups, etc.

Try & Decide is an incredible feature. It allowed me to test all these different codecs, codec packs, media players, etc. and then scrap everything that didn't work and revert my system to a clean state.

I'll have to try that. I'm not in front of that laptop right now, but going from memory...in the options for Acronis 2010, you can start a recovery by enabling one of the features so at start up, you hit F11 and it starts the Acronis Boot Loader (vs loading Windows). It looks like its going to work fine, but eventually you get a black screen.

Nethervue
Mar 12th, 2010, 01:38 PM
I have the regular Microsoft ones (2 DVDs as well).

Alright need some more assistance, I did a custom install with the DVD cause I wanted to wipe out everything and make it into 1 HDD and clean install the win7. Now when I try to activate the notebook, it says it is only meant for upgrade... What can I do as I wiped out the original OEM vista pre-installed into the system? :confused:

You should still have the recovery partition that you can factory restore you laptop too. What about restore DVDs? Did you create those?

asdisme
Mar 12th, 2010, 01:50 PM
You should still have the recovery partition that you can factory restore you laptop too. What about restore DVDs? Did you create those?

If you mean recover partition as in the 2 partition in the HDD (12GB and 232GB), I think I wiped them both out (1 said it was reserved for OEM, but I thought I wouldn't need it as i'm going to install windows 7) :(

Nethervue
Mar 12th, 2010, 01:55 PM
ohhhh...yeah, then its toast. You can always try just to make sure I guess, its ALT-F10 I believe for an Acer to boot the the 12 GB recovery partition.

asdisme
Mar 12th, 2010, 02:13 PM
ohhhh...yeah, then its toast. You can always try just to make sure I guess, its ALT-F10 I believe for an Acer to boot the the 12 GB recovery partition.

damn... :cry:

16el
Mar 12th, 2010, 02:26 PM
damn... :cry:

did you make a set of recover disks?

asdisme
Mar 12th, 2010, 02:33 PM
did you make a set of recover disks?

Nope, I didn't know, but now I do.

Jackhammer100
Mar 12th, 2010, 03:27 PM
Just found 2 in blue. On the way to pick them up now, hopefully Win 7 is part of the deal. So honestly, are these decent lappy's?? Will report back.

82
Mar 12th, 2010, 04:12 PM
I just tried DXVA on my AS1410 and Revo R3610 (NVidia ION with CUDA, Dual-core). Splash, MPC-HC and XBMC all have stutters on x.264 1080p content but DXVA and CUDA are working obviously. MPC doesn't seem to take advantage of multi-core. Only 1 core is used all the time.

I tried CoreAVC/CUDA on the REVO and the playback is 95% perfect, thanks to the efficient software decoder wtih CUDA hardware decoding support. So I think some 1080p content requires a lot of CPU processing in addition to DXVA. This explains why your C2D Toshiba works with the same GPU.


I created a bootable USB drive with Acronis 10. Works perfectly on my system. Not sure what you mean by pressing F11? I press F12 to go into boot device selection, choose my USB drive, boot into Acronis and take backups or restore backups, etc.

Try & Decide is an incredible feature. It allowed me to test all these different codecs, codec packs, media players, etc. and then scrap everything that didn't work and revert my system to a clean state.

Nethervue
Mar 12th, 2010, 04:44 PM
Just found 2 in blue. On the way to pick them up now, hopefully Win 7 is part of the deal. So honestly, are these decent lappy's?? Will report back.

Hell yeah...for $299, nothing can come close. Alot of talk about 1080p and what not, but really, this thing is the perfect blend (for me anyway) of size and performance. Its played the couple of 1080p movies I have, but they are Disney and Pixar films, so maybe not the best tests. But to answer if these are decent, hell yeah!

loonieryan
Mar 12th, 2010, 04:58 PM
I'll have to try that. I'm not in front of that laptop right now, but going from memory...in the options for Acronis 2010, you can start a recovery by enabling one of the features so at start up, you hit F11 and it starts the Acronis Boot Loader (vs loading Windows). It looks like its going to work fine, but eventually you get a black screen.

If it gets stuck with a blinking cursor right after "Starting Acronis Loader..." then try pulling out any connected USB devices, like USB mouse receivers, etc. I sometimes have this issue when rebooting while Try & Decide is active and pulling out my Logitech Nano receiver and rebooting works.


I just tried DXVA on my AS1410 and Revo R3610 (NVidia ION with CUDA, Dual-core). Splash, MPC-HC and XBMC all have stutters on x.264 1080p content but DXVA and CUDA are working obviously. MPC doesn't seem to take advantage of multi-core. Only 1 core is used all the time.

I tried CoreAVC/CUDA on the REVO and the playback is 95% perfect, thanks to the efficient software decoder wtih CUDA hardware decoding support. So I think some 1080p content requires a lot of CPU processing in addition to DXVA. This explains why your C2D Toshiba works with the same GPU.

I stripped out the opening sequence of The Dark Knight. It's 6min30sec long and over 500MB. It's 12.5 Mbps average video bitrate just during that opening sequence. If I can manage to upload it somewhere I will do that for others to test here.

CUDA isn't full hardware acceleration as far as I know, so that isn't a good comparison of CPU usage. Here are some real hardware acceleration stats:
- On my HTPC running an ATI Radeon HD3470 discrete graphics card, 3.2 GHz Athlon X2: CPU usage = 5% MAX!
- On my Toshiba laptop with Intel 4500MHD, dual core 2.2 GHz: CPU usage = 15-20%

That just goes to show that a good, powerful GPU like the Radeon HD3470 doesn't need to rely at all on the CPU, whereas the Intel 4500MHD can't really cut it by itself.

I've always hated Intel GPUs and this experience just confirms it for me :)

I really don't care, since the Acer 1410 is for the wife and not at all intended for media playback. I was doing all this testing to find the best solution and share it with others here. I still haven't found that solution though and that's what bugs me to no end :( I've already spent too much time on this... must... stop...

82
Mar 12th, 2010, 07:05 PM
I don't know about you but I have nothing but problems with ATI 4350 and 4550. NVidia ION seems like a solid platform for video decoding and CoreAVC only support CUDA. From what I read, CUDA > AVIVO > Intel G45. I am waiting for GMA HD result, it's relatively new but looks promising. The best platform is still my Intel Quad Q8300 with G43 IGP (no 1080p DXVA support). The Quad playback anything I thru into it and CPU utilization stay low most of the time and I don't need to worry about settings, codec, players... It simply works :) The more I spent on this so called 1080p capable GPU, the more I believe CPU/software solution. It's like history repeat again, remember the Softmodem, AC97 onbound sound DSP?

Yes, Dark Knight sample will be good if you can upload it. Nethervue can try it out to see if it works on his AS1410.






If it gets stuck with a blinking cursor right after "Starting Acronis Loader..." then try pulling out any connected USB devices, like USB mouse receivers, etc. I sometimes have this issue when rebooting while Try & Decide is active and pulling out my Logitech Nano receiver and rebooting works.



I stripped out the opening sequence of The Dark Knight. It's 6min30sec long and over 500MB. It's 12.5 Mbps average video bitrate just during that opening sequence. If I can manage to upload it somewhere I will do that for others to test here.

CUDA isn't full hardware acceleration as far as I know, so that isn't a good comparison of CPU usage. Here are some real hardware acceleration stats:
- On my HTPC running an ATI Radeon HD3470 discrete graphics card, 3.2 GHz Athlon X2: CPU usage = 5% MAX!
- On my Toshiba laptop with Intel 4500MHD, dual core 2.2 GHz: CPU usage = 15-20%

That just goes to show that a good, powerful GPU like the Radeon HD3470 doesn't need to rely at all on the CPU, whereas the Intel 4500MHD can't really cut it by itself.

I've always hated Intel GPUs and this experience just confirms it for me :)

I really don't care, since the Acer 1410 is for the wife and not at all intended for media playback. I was doing all this testing to find the best solution and share it with others here. I still haven't found that solution though and that's what bugs me to no end :( I've already spent too much time on this... must... stop...

Nethervue
Mar 12th, 2010, 07:38 PM
Yes, Dark Knight sample will be good if you can upload it. Nethervue can try it out to see if it works on his AS1410.

Yup, bring it on!! Even if it doesn't work, I'll lie...just to keep the dream alive and drive everyone nuts installing and configuring codecs! HA!! Kidding of course, love to try it out though. I'm not that big of a pirate, I buy the stuff I like, but I just got Brothers in 1080p..so as soon as my image is done, I'm going to give Brothers a try.

For Acronis, I tried an older version we have at work and its working no problems, I'm currently restoring my 1410 from an image I just took. Looks like the lastest and greatest version has an issue or something...dunno!

ignoreme
Mar 12th, 2010, 09:51 PM
Staples Sherway store has a red one with $89 cap.

Jackhammer100
Mar 12th, 2010, 09:56 PM
So I got 2 of these in blue, question though. The store I was at had a sign stating that all remaining Vista clearance laptops would be upgraded to Win 7. Unfortunately they didn't allow this on these models, how convenient. So do I go back screaming or is this a YMMV situation?? Thanks in advance.

loonieryan
Mar 13th, 2010, 02:11 AM
I don't know about you but I have nothing but problems with ATI 4350 and 4550.
To be honest I have absolutely no problems with my ATI Radeon HD 3470 and it has been rock solid. It's also passively cooled and thus absolutely silent.


Yes, Dark Knight sample will be good if you can upload it. Nethervue can try it out to see if it works on his AS1410.


Yup, bring it on!! Even if it doesn't work, I'll lie...just to keep the dream alive and drive everyone nuts installing and configuring codecs! HA!! Kidding of course, love to try it out though. I'm not that big of a pirate, I buy the stuff I like, but I just got Brothers in 1080p..so as soon as my image is done, I'm going to give Brothers a try.

I'm uploading the 678 MB sample to 2shared. I'll post the link when the upload completes.

asdisme
Mar 13th, 2010, 02:32 AM
I think I found the solution of clean install without original OS. Just have to double install and upgrade on top of windows 7.

http://www.w7forums.com/clean-install-windows-7-upgrade-media-t3054.html

Phewwwww I thought I was doomed.

82
Mar 13th, 2010, 07:43 PM
can some body tell me the manufacture for the webcam? Acer site has multiple webcam driver for different mfr?

thanks

asdisme
Mar 13th, 2010, 07:49 PM
can some body tell me the manufacture for the webcam? Acer site has multiple webcam driver for different mfr?

thanks

Should be Suyin driver not the liteon

82
Mar 13th, 2010, 08:26 PM
Is it a VGA webcam? I thought it is 1.3Mp.

Darkstar77
Mar 13th, 2010, 09:29 PM
So I got 2 of these in blue, question though. The store I was at had a sign stating that all remaining Vista clearance laptops would be upgraded to Win 7. Unfortunately they didn't allow this on these models, how convenient. So do I go back screaming or is this a YMMV situation?? Thanks in advance.

I got mine in Cobourg, and the fellow there told me all Vista computers get a free Win 7 upgrade, which I took. He told me you just have to ask. He even called his manager to verify he was correct and to get a code to enter at the cash to zero out the cost of the upgrade. Incidentally, the upgrade showed as $30 until he entered a code to make it free. I honestly would have been okay with paying the $30 if it came down to it; which it didn't. :D

Worth calling them on, maybe ask for the store manager if the computer guy isn't being helpful.

asdisme
Mar 14th, 2010, 12:12 PM
Is it a VGA webcam? I thought it is 1.3Mp.

Nope, I believe it is a 0.3 MP webcam only.

Does anyone know how to update BIOS or if it is needed to update? My is currently running V0.3113 and VGA BIOS intel V1800.

82
Mar 14th, 2010, 04:02 PM
I downloaded 1.3xxx from Acer Canada a few days ago.


Nope, I believe it is a 0.3 MP webcam only.

Does anyone know how to update BIOS or if it is needed to update? My is currently running V0.3113 and VGA BIOS intel V1800.

asdisme
Mar 14th, 2010, 04:07 PM
I downloaded 1.3xxx from Acer Canada a few days ago.

I see a 3303, should I do the update? Also how do I do this update? Will it erase anything?

82
Mar 14th, 2010, 09:31 PM
Just run the executable. It may erase your BIOS settings, but it won't affect Windows.


I see a 3303, should I do the update? Also how do I do this update? Will it erase anything?

asdisme
Mar 15th, 2010, 12:07 PM
Just run the executable. It may erase your BIOS settings, but it won't affect Windows.

Thanks!

So I can just jump from .3113 to 3303, I don't need to update each BIOs at a time?

ignoreme
Mar 15th, 2010, 01:12 PM
Thanks!

So I can just jump from .3113 to 3303, I don't need to update each BIOs at a time?

You have XP SP1 installed and you don't need to go XP SP2 SP3, VISTA SP1 SP2,then WIN7 RTM...one step is all.
I don't know if you can go back if you are not satisfied with the latest BIOS. It should be OK.

16el
Mar 15th, 2010, 02:10 PM
can some body tell me the manufacture for the webcam? Acer site has multiple webcam driver for different mfr?

thanks

From a previous post. There is an entry about identifying you webcam model.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=419117

loonieryan
Mar 15th, 2010, 04:25 PM
Sorry folks, but my upload of The Dark Knight opening sequence failed to 2shared.com (not to mention I got a crap load of pop-ups for AFF!!!)

I'll try to upload it to one of my hosted sites and post the link for a temporary period to give people an opportunity to test.

I also haven't yet had the time to roll back to the Acer GPU drivers and see if that resolves the stuttering.

82
Mar 15th, 2010, 08:18 PM
Actually some patches are not cumulative but you can upgrade the 3303 BIOS directly.


You have XP SP1 installed and you don't need to go XP SP2 SP3, VISTA SP1 SP2,then WIN7 RTM...one step is all.
I don't know if you can go back if you are not satisfied with the latest BIOS. It should be OK.


Thanks!

So I can just jump from .3113 to 3303, I don't need to update each BIOs at a time?


Take your time. BTW, anyone tried XBMC Linux with the AS1410?


Sorry folks, but my upload of The Dark Knight opening sequence failed to 2shared.com (not to mention I got a crap load of pop-ups for AFF!!!)

I'll try to upload it to one of my hosted sites and post the link for a temporary period to give people an opportunity to test.

I also haven't yet had the time to roll back to the Acer GPU drivers and see if that resolves the stuttering.


16el, thanks for the info...

asdisme
Mar 16th, 2010, 12:59 AM
Which one would I install? I see a X64 and X84 :confused: I installed 32bit win7 on my machine.

qaz393
Mar 16th, 2010, 12:59 AM
x86 = 32bit

asdisme
Mar 16th, 2010, 01:08 AM
x86 = 32bit

Thanks!

jobs50
Mar 16th, 2010, 02:30 AM
Updated to the new bios. Wow, glad I did, comp loads faster, things like the volume up (fn ^) work 10x snappier. There may be more things but I just did this yesterday. Anyone else notice performance improvments?

Cheers.

RFDeal_or_NoDeal
Mar 17th, 2010, 07:07 AM
Updated to the new bios. Wow, glad I did, comp loads faster, things like the volume up (fn ^) work 10x snappier. There may be more things but I just did this yesterday. Anyone else notice performance improvments?

Cheers.
Where do you find the link to download the new bios?

ignoreme
Mar 17th, 2010, 10:17 AM
Where do you find the link to download the new bios?

http://www.acer.ca/acer/service.do?LanguageISOCtxParam=en&miu10einu24.current.attN2B2F2EEF=3751&sp=page15e&ctx2.c2att1=27&miu10ekcond13.attN2B2F2EEF=3751&CountryISOCtxParam=CA&ctx1.att21k=1&CRC=719687231

loonieryan
Mar 17th, 2010, 10:38 AM
Updated to the new bios. Wow, glad I did, comp loads faster, things like the volume up (fn ^) work 10x snappier. There may be more things but I just did this yesterday. Anyone else notice performance improvments?

Cheers.

I posted earlier on this thread that new bios also resolves the CPU temp issues: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/ymmv-staples-acer-asprie-1410-netbook-299-11-6-3gb-250gb-intel-core-2-a-860120/27/#post10419065

RFDeal_or_NoDeal
Mar 17th, 2010, 06:53 PM
http://www.acer.ca/acer/service.do?LanguageISOCtxParam=en&miu10einu24.current.attN2B2F2EEF=3751&sp=page15e&ctx2.c2att1=27&miu10ekcond13.attN2B2F2EEF=3751&CountryISOCtxParam=CA&ctx1.att21k=1&CRC=719687231
Thank you; much appreciated.

chee pass
Mar 17th, 2010, 11:46 PM
I just picked it up today but has a couple of scratches and they wouldn't budge re; 89$ set up fee. gave 20$ discount and i had a 10$ coupon and free replicator. Windows 7 installed. total with taxes 408.09. What do you think?

consumerPI
Mar 17th, 2010, 11:55 PM
I'd say that you got ripped off. You should call their head office and explain to them how you were forced by that store to pay $90 plus taxes for a few burned disks. "Set-up" fee, what a joke. Computers should be ready right out of the box, no set up required. The fact that someone returned yours and they had to make those disk anyway is even worse.


I just picked it up today but has a couple of scratches and they wouldn't budge re; 89$ set up fee. gave 20$ discount and i had a 10$ coupon and free replicator. Windows 7 installed. total with taxes 408.09. What do you think?

qaz393
Mar 18th, 2010, 12:49 AM
i would sue over the set up fee because u can get refund from acer for the operating system if u do not accept the end user agreement.

kuzi
Mar 19th, 2010, 07:38 PM
I managed to get one of these a week ago and was just thinking of taking out 1gb of ram from this computer to upgrade my other computer...anyone see any issues with this if I am going to upgrade to win 7?

And any benefit to get 64 bit instead of 32 bit. If 64 is better I may just keep the 3gb.

kuzi
Mar 21st, 2010, 01:05 PM
I managed to get one of these a week ago and was just thinking of taking out 1gb of ram from this computer to upgrade my other computer...anyone see any issues with this if I am going to upgrade to win 7?

And any benefit to get 64 bit instead of 32 bit. If 64 is better I may just keep the 3gb.

Anyone???

82
Mar 21st, 2010, 03:58 PM
Anyone know the latest price for the AS1420?

To your question, 2GB is good enough for web browsing and little bit of multi-tasking with Office. More RAM never hurt but the extra 1GB maybe more useful on another PC. Win7 will actually runs better with 2GB than Vista.

If you don't have any 64 bits application. 32 bits is actually better, it has less driver issue.




I managed to get one of these a week ago and was just thinking of taking out 1gb of ram from this computer to upgrade my other computer...anyone see any issues with this if I am going to upgrade to win 7?

And any benefit to get 64 bit instead of 32 bit. If 64 is better I may just keep the 3gb.

asdisme
Mar 21st, 2010, 04:12 PM
I tried to use the stop fan when plugged into AC adapter tweak, but still I hear the fan running non stop...without even running a single app.

jefferson998
Mar 22nd, 2010, 08:27 PM
Yeah, saw that one too...it was $12 bucks more...this is RFD and all, so I went the cheaper route! They looked identical and I wasn't in any rush.

I bought one of these: NEW Acer Aspire One 751 751H Keyboard US Black ZA3. It fits perfectly and was $16.95 USD ($17.92 CAD) including shipping. Just got it - it took two weeks to arrive from the time it was shipped. The order was processed almost right away.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Acer-Aspire-One-751-751H-Keyboard-US-Black-ZA3_W0QQitemZ170459411249QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Mi ce_Trackballs?hash=item27b02c3331

loonieryan
Mar 24th, 2010, 06:34 PM
Well, I finally had some time to play around with the wife's 1410.

I rolled back my Intel Graphics drivers the ones posted on the Acer site, but that didn't help 1080p video playback. So then I resorted to the latest drivers from Intel (March release). Same slight choppiness playing high bitrate 1080p.

In the end, I tried PowerDVD 7 codecs and that yields the best and smoothest results with Windows Media Player. So here's what you need:
- PowerDVD 7, or just the CL264dec.ax filter and associated DLLs
- AC3Filter for audio decoding
- Win7DSFilterTweaker to force Windows Media Player to use the PowerDVD 7 decoder for H.264 playback
- Configure the PowerDVD 7 codec to use DXVA, this can be done via RadLight Filter Manager, or during playback in WMP if you temporarily use ffdshow as the audio decoder and use the ffdshow tray icon to gain access to the "live" PowerDVD 7 configuration

The above set up works great, mostly smooth on high bitrate 1080p, and better than MPC-HC (32-bit or 64-bit).

Now I gotta figure out why the damn webcam doesn't work in Skype!

qaz393
Mar 24th, 2010, 06:42 PM
Well, I finally had some time to play around with the wife's 1410.

I rolled back my Intel Graphics drivers the ones posted on the Acer site, but that didn't help 1080p video playback. So then I resorted to the latest drivers from Intel (March release). Same slight choppiness playing high bitrate 1080p.

In the end, I tried PowerDVD 7 codecs and that yields the best and smoothest results with Windows Media Player. So here's what you need:
- PowerDVD 7, or just the CL264dec.ax filter and associated DLLs
- AC3Filter for audio decoding
- Win7DSFilterTweaker to force Windows Media Player to use the PowerDVD 7 decoder for H.264 playback
- Configure the PowerDVD 7 codec to use DXVA, this can be done via RadLight Filter Manager, or during playback in WMP if you temporarily use ffdshow as the audio decoder and use the ffdshow tray icon to gain access to the "live" PowerDVD 7 configuration

The above set up works great, mostly smooth on high bitrate 1080p, and better than MPC-HC (32-bit or 64-bit).

Now I gotta figure out why the damn webcam doesn't work in Skype!

do u have acer crystal eye software installed? test the camera there

loonieryan
Mar 24th, 2010, 11:44 PM
do u have acer crystal eye software installed? test the camera there

No I don't. I wiped my Vista install and put Windows 7. Don't have any Acer junky software... I guess I'll need to get it and try.

Mepoor
Mar 25th, 2010, 08:57 PM
Hey All - I have 2 NIB Units for sale at Staple's Clearance cost plus taxes = $440 each.

Turns out that I manged to luck out at our local Staples who called to say they found two more units NIB that they have Bronzed (open box). I decided to grab them just in case but now know we don't need any more.

If you are still looking for this unit them PM me and maybe we can arrange something before I consider selling them on other forums.

The two Acer 1410 units are Black model with Win7 Home Premium Upgrade CD and with the HP usb replicator included.
The total cost for the unit ($299.99) with Staples Bronze package ($89 c/w the restore CD's) plus tax totals $440. I can also provide a copy of the original receipt for warranty purposes. All original items are included.

Apparently Costco has a similiar Acer model for $499 plus tax, so the $440 all-in seems like a great deal with a better Intel chip and 6-cell battery (vs the Costco 3-cell unit).

I am also considering putting them up on Kijiji and Ebay if no one here at RFD is interested. Obiviously I'll be trying to get the highest price possible on those sites. So PM me if you are interested and serious about picking it up this weekend.

Cheers!

325i
Mar 26th, 2010, 11:23 PM
I picked one up today, it was an open box but the unit still had all the plastic covering on it. Looks like they had this for show but left all the protective stuff on it.

Anyhow, got it for $300 plus tax and but the sales person threw in a wireless mouse and a couple other things so I just went for it.

I'll eventually throw windows 7 on it but to be honest it's actually not bad on Vista - I found this interesting as my dual core HP laptop ran like crap on Vista.

Anyhow - this replaces my N450 Netbook as it was nice and small but was more show than go. I wonder how the slower netbooks will do when a service pack comes up and loads up Windows 7 a bit more.

Anyhow - thanks OP for sharing a great deal!

-----

Edit:

Curious what your Windows Vista/7 experience ratings are for this laptop? Mine for Vista is:

Processor: 3.5
RAM: 4.8
Graphics: 3.2
Gaming Graphics: 3.3
Hard disk: 5.6

Please do share!


For those who have asked... mine does not have blue tooth (wish it did) but I havea tiny little bluetooth thingy that I leave in the USB port. works for me.

Cheers!

EPcjay
Mar 28th, 2010, 12:23 PM
Hey Guys,

I finally got my copy of Windows 7 Home Premium Edition, and did a clean install with it. It appears to freeze my computer when I close the flap of the computer. It freezes in both standby and hibernate. If I change the setting to do nothing, its ok.

If I manually hibernate or standby it will also go to a black screen, and freeze. Only choice is to power off and on.

Any thoughts on how to fix this?

Mepoor
Mar 28th, 2010, 02:19 PM
Only one left now. PM me if interested ASAP...
cheers


Hey All - I have 2 NIB Units for sale at Staple's Clearance cost plus taxes = $440 each.

Turns out that I manged to luck out at our local Staples who called to say they found two more units NIB that they have Bronzed (open box). I decided to grab them just in case but now know we don't need any more.

If you are still looking for this unit them PM me and maybe we can arrange something before I consider selling them on other forums.

The two Acer 1410 units are Black model with Win7 Home Premium Upgrade CD and with the HP usb replicator included.
The total cost for the unit ($299.99) with Staples Bronze package ($89 c/w the restore CD's) plus tax totals $440. I can also provide a copy of the original receipt for warranty purposes. All original items are included.

Apparently Costco has a similiar Acer model for $499 plus tax, so the $440 all-in seems like a great deal with a better Intel chip and 6-cell battery (vs the Costco 3-cell unit).

I am also considering putting them up on Kijiji and Ebay if no one here at RFD is interested. Obiviously I'll be trying to get the highest price possible on those sites. So PM me if you are interested and serious about picking it up this weekend.

Cheers!

Mepoor
Mar 30th, 2010, 07:45 PM
Hey All - I have 2 NIB Units for sale at Staple's Clearance cost plus taxes = $440 each.

The two Acer 1410 units are Black model with Win7 Home Premium Upgrade CD and with the HP usb replicator included.

The total cost for the unit ($299.99) with Staples Bronze package ($89 c/w the restore CD's) plus tax totals $440. I can also provide a copy of the original receipt for warranty purposes. All original items are included.

Cheers!Both now sold to RFD members. Thanks.

One of my sons is thinking he might also sell his new Acer 1410 unit which has not been used as of yet. He has a full 17" lappy and is thinking he would prefer it over the 11.6".
PM me if you are interested and I could talk to him about it.

cheers

loonieryan
Mar 31st, 2010, 10:45 AM
Both now sold. Thanks.

One of my sons is thinking he might also sell his new Acer 1410 unit which has not been used as of yet. He has a full 17" lappy and is thinking he would prefer it over the 11.6".
PM me if you are interested and I could talk to him about it.

cheers

Congrats on selling the 2 units :)

Did you get permission from some of the members on this thread before hoarding and selling though? ;)

Nethervue
Apr 1st, 2010, 01:48 PM
Curious what your Windows Vista/7 experience ratings are for this laptop? Mine for Vista is:

Processor: 3.5
RAM: 4.8
Graphics: 3.2
Gaming Graphics: 3.3
Hard disk: 5.6

Please do share!


For those who have asked... mine does not have blue tooth (wish it did) but I havea tiny little bluetooth thingy that I leave in the USB port. works for me.

Cheers!

For Windows 7:

Processor: 3.3
RAM: 4.9
Graphics: 3.2
Gaming Graphics: 3.3
Hard disk: 5.7

EPcjay
Apr 11th, 2010, 10:29 PM
For Windows 7:

Processor: 3.3
RAM: 4.9
Graphics: 3.2
Gaming Graphics: 3.3
Hard disk: 5.7

I'm also on windows 7, clean install\\

Processor: 3.3
Memory: 5.1
Graphics: 3.3
Gaming: 3.2
Hard Drive: 5.6

Ghetto_Child
May 21st, 2010, 04:19 PM
Can anyone help me with overclocking the ram? I have an Acer Aspire 1410-8803 and I followed the instructions found at the notebookreview.com forums for reflashing the DDR2 SPD to raise it from DDR2-667 to DDR2-800. I used the method of editing the timing tables instead of reflashing with the dump of a completely different module. I flashed the stock 2GB Samsung and a 2GB Kingston 99U5295-011.A00LF RMN2-667/2G PC2-5300 DDR2-667.

You might remember the Futureshop $15 2GB Kingston DDR2-667 deal here on RFD back in Feb 2009. Well the SPD on those modules are not write-protected :twisted: .

Anyway Lavalys Everest Ultimate v5.50 now state that the modules are indeed 400MHz DDR2-800 6-6-6-18 however this laptop is still running in DDR2-667 speed and using the modules at that speed too. How can I get this laptop to run at DDR2-800?

Ghetto_Child
May 25th, 2010, 05:50 PM
I successfully managed to find a way to overclock the RAM. I'm using a 1410-8803 with SU3500 cpu. I reprogrammed the SPD so that the top speed is always DDR2-800 regardless of what laptop I put the ram in unless the laptop's limit is lower. Then it will default to 667 or 533. See here http://forums.redflagdeals.com/hot-fs-kingston-2gb-ddr2-laptop-desktop-memory-14-99-a-695211/10/#post10878038 I'll try organize a list of my steps to help everyone later.

Also discovered if you use only 1 DIMM in your laptop your battery life will double, I saw between 11-13hrs on power saver mode. A very large benefit for giving up dual channel. Might even be worth buying a single 1x4GB DDR2 So-DIMM. No wonder Asus Eee PC, Acer Aspire One, and other netbooks come with only 1 ram slot.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/Ghetto_Child_Bucket/th_SU35001xKingstonSoDIMMHighPerforman.png (http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/Ghetto_Child_Bucket/SU35001xKingstonSoDIMMHighPerforman.png)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/Ghetto_Child_Bucket/th_SU35001xKingstonSoDIMMBalanced.png (http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/Ghetto_Child_Bucket/SU35001xKingstonSoDIMMBalanced.png)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/Ghetto_Child_Bucket/th_SU35001xKingstonSoDIMMPowerSaver.png (http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/Ghetto_Child_Bucket/SU35001xKingstonSoDIMMPowerSaver.png)

Noob1ee
May 25th, 2010, 07:46 PM
Also discovered if you use only 1 DIMM in your laptop your battery life will double, I saw between 11-13hrs on power saver mode. A very large benefit for giving up dual channel. Might even be worth buying a single 1x4GB DDR2 So-DIMM. No wonder Asus Eee PC, Acer Aspire One, and other netbooks come with only 1 ram slot.


Awesome, nice find!

Ghetto_Child
May 26th, 2010, 05:34 PM
althought I havn't tested out that battery life discovery but it should be correct because I refreshed the battery indicator several times and when I use 2 DIMMs of ram the estimate is acurate to inside the hour.

EDIT May 27 8:42AM EST
So according to the discharge rate it's not double but a very significant increase in battery life. Also it appears that the 2GB Kingston module consumes significantly less power than the stock AA 1410 2GB Samsung module.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/Ghetto_Child_Bucket/th_SU35001xAA1410SamsungSoDIMMPowerSav.png (http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/Ghetto_Child_Bucket/SU35001xAA1410SamsungSoDIMMPowerSav.png)

this shot I had the HDMI connected to a 1680x1050 LCD in extension mode while the laptop was on.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/Ghetto_Child_Bucket/th_SU35001xAA1410SamsungSoDIMMHDMI1680.png (http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/Ghetto_Child_Bucket/SU35001xAA1410SamsungSoDIMMHDMI1680.png)

82
Jun 1st, 2010, 01:45 PM
the stock has 1x2GB DIMM and 1x1GB DIMM, so I there is no dual channel at the beginning, right?

Does the Kingston 2GB has less chip count than the Samsung 2GB, wonder why there is a significant difference in battery life. The memory doesn't consume a lot of power compare to the entire notebook.


I successfully managed to find a way to overclock the RAM. I'm using a 1410-8803 with SU3500 cpu. I reprogrammed the SPD so that the top speed is always DDR2-800 regardless of what laptop I put the ram in unless the laptop's limit is lower. Then it will default to 667 or 533. See here http://forums.redflagdeals.com/hot-fs-kingston-2gb-ddr2-laptop-desktop-memory-14-99-a-695211/10/#post10878038 I'll try organize a list of my steps to help everyone later.

Also discovered if you use only 1 DIMM in your laptop your battery life will double, I saw between 11-13hrs on power saver mode. A very large benefit for giving up dual channel. Might even be worth buying a single 1x4GB DDR2 So-DIMM. No wonder Asus Eee PC, Acer Aspire One, and other netbooks come with only 1 ram slot.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/Ghetto_Child_Bucket/th_SU35001xKingstonSoDIMMHighPerforman.png (http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/Ghetto_Child_Bucket/SU35001xKingstonSoDIMMHighPerforman.png)

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Ghetto_Child
Jun 1st, 2010, 05:09 PM
the intel GS45 chipset or Intel Mobile Series 4 Express chipset supports flex mode dual channel meaning it will use dual channel on parallel ram and single channel on non-parallel ram. So the 1x1GB along with half of the 1x2GB modules will operate in dual channel mode leaving the remaining half of the 1x2GB in single mode.

my only hypothesis to the difference in power consumption is that in dual channel mode you are constantly performing twice as many ram transactions per second, keeping both modules active all the time regardless of how much ram is in use, and processing twice as much data on the cpu per ram transaction. Doubling anything can add up...

82
Jun 1st, 2010, 08:09 PM
Is there any utility to tell if the PC is using flex mode?


the intel GS45 chipset or Intel Mobile Series 4 Express chipset supports flex mode dual channel meaning it will use dual channel on parallel ram and single channel on non-parallel ram. So the 1x1GB along with half of the 1x2GB modules will operate in dual channel mode leaving the remaining half of the 1x2GB in single mode.

my only hypothesis to the difference in power consumption is that in dual channel mode you are constantly performing twice as many ram transactions per second, keeping both modules active all the time regardless of how much ram is in use, and processing twice as much data on the cpu per ram transaction. Doubling anything can add up...

Ghetto_Child
Jun 4th, 2010, 11:14 AM
With this chipset as long as you have 2 DIMMs installed it's at least using flex mode. Use any diagnostic program that can tell you chipset settings/data rates. If you see 128-bit (2x64-bit) for your RAM then it's operating in dual channel mode. I use Lavalys Everest Ultimate v5.50, in that program the chipset category and SPD category and maybe a few other sections display what transfer mode your system is currently using. Diagnostic programs don't differentiate between flex vs full dual; they both will indicate 128-bit dual channel transfers.

UTSC
Jul 24th, 2010, 06:10 PM
I travel often and I need a machine to do video call with my family so the qualitiy of web cam, microphone and speaker is important to me plus I need a decent size screen and keyboard

I know qualitiy of web cam, microphone and speaker in most HP machines are good but I don't the quality in MSI or Acer?

Any recomendations?