Tim Hortons not so green.

[rotjong]

Just the other day I was in a Tim Hortons store and orderd a coffee which comes in a porcelein mug, but then on my tray there was also a paper wax cup so I can roll up the rim.To me this is a huge waste.

When you order a meal from Timmies you only get 1 little napkin.
I think a napkin would break down quicker than those wax paper cups that are being tossed.

And then Timmies has a huge blurb on their website that they are environmently freindly I just don't get it
How can you be environmently freindlyand big garbadge producers at the same time.



Working together for a better environment
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Waste Diversion

Tim Hortons is working hard to recycle as much of its packaging as possible.
There are hundreds of stores across Canada that offer recycling and/or compost programs which include paper packaging and food waste.
We continue to work with industry experts to increase the where and what we can recycle.

Waste Reduction

While recycling and composting are great solutions, eliminating packaging in the first place is even better. Tim Hortons promotes waste reduction through various in-store programs. We continue to remind our customers about our china mug option for dining in-store and our discount for travel mug users.

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Each year, Tim Hortons store owners continue to demonstrate community leadership through sponsoring and supporting clean up and tree planting events across Canada.
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[danman227460]

We are trained to do that. Next time, refuse. It is a contest and you can refuse to participate in it. They should have asked you if you wanted a cup and not given you one.

[S14_Raven]

So u roll? Or give back the cup?

[jimmy-j]

imagine if you didn't get a roll up the rim .... there would have been another thread complaining saying that you didn't get one :rolleyes:

[Deadmau555]

A whole paragraph for that, really now?

[weedb0y]

So u roll? Or give back the cup?

WIN! Question of a lifetime. What would YOU do?

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[branat]

He's probably rolled it and didn't win. :D

[rotjong]

I thought this was a eco/green forum??

[rotjong]

We are trained to do that. Next time, refuse. It is a contest and you can refuse to participate in it. They should have asked you if you wanted a cup and not given you one.

But why all the waste?? The T H should 'nt put on their website that they care about the world and want to minimize the waste

[FerrisB]

But why all the waste?? The T H should 'nt put on their website that they care about the world and want to minimize the waste

Give back the cup. Problem solved.

[danman227460]

Ya. Like most people said, give back the cup. The contest is whenever you buy a coffee, you get a contest cup. So everyone who buys a cup of coffee, gets a contest cup. Since you bought a mug, you are entitled to a cup. You can refuse, they are giving you the option. They are not holding a gun to your head or taping a cup to every mug.

You are just making a mountain out of a mole hill.

It is no different than all the people who buy a coffee and get a contest cup or a double cup. You getting a free cup isn't add much to the overall waste and like I keep saying, you can refuse. You don't have to accept it.


But why all the waste?? The T H should 'nt put on their website that they care about the world and want to minimize the waste

[jumbojones]

I think a napkin would break down quicker than those wax paper cups that are being tossed.FYI the cups are lined with poly, not waxed, which means they are not biodegradable. They are compostable where facilities exist, but that is because of the additives municipalities use to break things down quicker. So throwing your TH cup out your window and thinking it will biodegrate over time, is wrong.

There are bio cups and lids, if TH were really concerned for the environment they would switch to these.

On a side note, from what I've heard from people who work at TH, the three garbage bins are a farce as most of the time all 3 make it into the same dumpster behind the store.

[rotjong]

[QUOTE=jumbojones;

On a side note, from what I've heard from people who work at TH, the three garbage bins are a farce as most of the time all 3 make it into the same dumpster behind the store.[/QUOTE]

Obviously these 3 bins just gives the customer a warm fuzzy feeling that they are doing their part in recyceling but it all ends up in the same dump.

[GeneralDisaray]

the facade of eco-friendliness is just for business-purposes. ANY kid in business school knows that...or anyone with common sense. These fads are for corp's to jump on...they don't care about anything other than the bottom line.

[carmaster]

the facade of eco-friendliness is just for business-purposes. ANY kid in business school knows that...or anyone with common sense. These fads are for corp's to jump on...they don't care about anything other than the bottom line.

+1. When companies say "green" they want to make green money as a result of it. They are producing tons of waste and don't give a damn. They will not switch to greener products because it costs the company more and reduces the bottom line. There are no truly green or ecofriendly companies out there because they go bankrupt.

[jumbojones]

+1. When companies say "green" they want to make green money as a result of it. They are producing tons of waste and don't give a damn. They will not switch to greener products because it costs the company more and reduces the bottom line. There are no truly green or ecofriendly companies out there because they go bankrupt.No company can be 100% green, but there are some that truely try and do it well. Then there are those that greenwash and try to cling onto a movement. Fortunately consumers are getting smarter and can spot these companies, who end up going back to their wasteful ways.

[jazz040]

No company can be 100% green, but there are some that truely try and do it well. Then there are those that greenwash and try to cling onto a movement. Fortunately consumers are getting smarter and can spot these companies, who end up going back to their wasteful ways.

100% Correct

[Grassgreen]

No company can be 100% green, but there are some that truely try and do it well. Then there are those that greenwash and try to cling onto a movement. Fortunately consumers are getting smarter and can spot these companies, who end up going back to their wasteful ways.

Very well put.

[Thedbs]

http://www.coffeehabitat.com/2007/12/tim-hortons-cof.html

"The Tim Hortons cup is easily the No. 1 recognizable item of litter in the country." One often-cited statistic is that 22% of the litter in the province of Nova Scotia was from Tim Hortons.

Horrible.

[calgaryhhr]

I've wondered, for a while, why Tim's doesn't offer a small scratch card for "Roll up the Rim to Win" for customers who bring their own travel mugs.

I would think that a small 2inch by 3inch scratch card would cut down on waste as compared to giving that customer an empty cup.

[FerrisB]

I've wondered, for a while, why Tim's doesn't offer a small scratch card for "Roll up the Rim to Win" for customers who bring their own travel mugs.

I would think that a small 2inch by 3inch scratch card would cut down on waste as compared to giving that customer an empty cup.

Because of the gigantic expense for such a small percentage of customers. Scratch and win tickets would need to be designed and printed and then the prizes would have to be coordinated with the cups etc.

When you think of the additional time and resources that would be consumed in having separate tickets it's probably more environmentally friendly to just give them an empty cup.