Teachers have personal lives too.

[wilson_wu]

But should they be making documentaries about their sexual lives? that air nationwide in the United States on HBO? and continue to teach?

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6496299334442795753&ei=1fOgS5ihPJKBlgeKkfSODQ&q=men+are+from+manhatten&hl=en#

I found this video and dude that was my ENGLISH TEACHER!! (high school in markham.)

Sure, there's nothing explicit about the video. But I don't want to know my teacher's sex life or that she likes getting oral after sex.

[Traian2003]

Who cares? What makes it anymore different than any other occupation?

They should have as much freedom of expression as everyone else.

[Shaner]

I think it's great. Were far too shy and sensitive in this country. We should encourage people to be more free. In Canada I'd you see a pair of boobs at the beach, half the guys stare and drool while half the women get offended and act like the devil himself made an appearance at the beach. Were far too uptight

[zonetbh]

Who cares? What makes it anymore different than any other occupation?

They should have as much freedom of expression as everyone else.

Agreed.

[45ED]

But should they be making documentaries about their sexual lives? that air nationwide in the United States on HBO? and continue to teach?

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6496299334442795753&ei=1fOgS5ihPJKBlgeKkfSODQ&q=men+are+from+manhatten&hl=en#

I found this video and dude that was my ENGLISH TEACHER!! (high school in markham.)

Sure, there's nothing explicit about the video. But I don't want to know my teacher's sex life or that she likes getting oral after sex.

So why didn't you just stop watching the video as soon as you knew who was in it and what it was about?

[Hunter316]

While I have no desire to watch a show with someone else talking about their sex life I don't think we should stop anyone from making it unless what they are describing in the movie is illegal.

[BananaHunter]

No, teaching is NOT like any other occupation. Teachers have an additional obligation to society. They have to act as role models for children. If you're a university professor, surely it's not a problem. But for little kids, teachers need to be extra careful with how they act.

[tebore]

When was this video made? The 1980s?

[Spidey]

Sweet. Gotta watch that. Im married to a teacher

And yes they do have personal lives :cheesygri

But growing up it was always weird seeing your teacher being a regular person, drinking a beer with their freinds, etc

[Spidey]

No, teaching is NOT like any other occupation. Teachers have an additional obligation to society. They have to act as role models for children. If you're a university professor, surely it's not a problem. But for little kids, teachers need to be extra careful with how they act.

Sure, when your around them, and in school, etc. But that doesnt mean they cant go to the bar, etc and have fun like anyone else. You dont have to have your teacher face on 24 hours a day

[Shaner]

No, teaching is NOT like any other occupation. Teachers have an additional obligation to society. They have to act as role models for children. If you're a university professor, surely it's not a problem. But for little kids, teachers need to be extra careful with how they act.

But it's not like sex is a bad thing. Sure, little kids shouldn't be doing it, but then again, little kids shouldn't be drinking either, yet we don't force teachers not to drink when they're at home.

[ur_funneh]

he should stick to teaching that was really bad acting.

[rapsrealm]

Who is your former teacher? Is the guy Steve Manin the teacher?

[WontonTiger]

Who cares? What makes it anymore different than any other occupation?

They should have as much freedom of expression as everyone else.

I'll remember that when I preach Mein Kampf to your children.

Did you really just ask this question
Who cares? What makes it anymore different than any other occupation?

Public trust, teaching certification, etc. (those are the simple answers).

[UrbanPoet]

Who cares? What makes it anymore different than any other occupation?

They should have as much freedom of expression as everyone else.

Teaching is a unique profession.
You have these little kids with minds that can be shaped and moulded forever.
Everything thinks about growing up and how much of an impact things are when they were younger.
Considering that teachers spend an ENITRE day with kids from 9am-3pm, they do a great deal in raising children in society.

[Spidey]

Teaching is a unique profession.
You have these little kids with minds that can be shaped and moulded forever.
Everything thinks about growing up and how much of an impact things are when they were younger.
Considering that teachers spend an ENITRE day with kids from 9am-3pm, they do a great deal in raising children in society.

Ok, so they spend the entire day with your kids. Does that mean a teacher has to come home and be a complete introvert and do noting fun.


I defintitly remember my kindergarten teacher, she was a great teacher. But when she was at home maybe she was a husband swapper and attended orgys. Who knows, it was behind closed doors


Im finding a flaw in that logic. There are so many people in professional professions out there that probably do a lot of freaky stuff behind closed doors. Doesnt mean they do that at work

Thats why its called a personal life

[rommelrommel]

I'll remember that when I teach Mein Kampf to your children.

Did you really just ask this question

Public trust, teaching certification, etc. (those are the simple answers).

Godwin's law...

Anyways, I guess you'll consent to 24/7 monitoring to make sure that you're doing anything that could be detrimental to the children, right?

[Traian2003]

Teaching is a unique profession.
You have these little kids with minds that can be shaped and moulded forever.
Everything thinks about growing up and how much of an impact things are when they were younger.
Considering that teachers spend an ENITRE day with kids from 9am-3pm, they do a great deal in raising children in society.

I didn't say teachers should teach kids that, but if a teacher openly speaks about personal matters, and a student finds it on the internet, I still think it's no big deal. And , if a kid does end up finding it, I'm sure he didn't search for the term "geometry math" (unless there's angles involved :lol:)


I'll remember that when I teach Mein Kampf to your children.

Did you really just ask this question

Public trust, teaching certification, etc. (those are the simple answers).

If you make a video talking about MK, post it online and my kid would find it, I wouldn't be start blaming you, maybe have a serious talk with the kid ..

[squall458]

I say teachers can do whatever they want behind closed doors. For some reason, if it gets out (you stupidly leak a video, etc.), then there lies the problem. Its called a private or personal life for a reason.

[Peckerwood]

I'll remember that when I teach Mein Kampf to your children.

Did you really just ask this question

Public trust, teaching certification, etc. (those are the simple answers).
Mein Kampf is history...and freely available on the net as are all other historical documents and works. How is your argument in any way special?

I remember doing works in JHS that involved reading MK in Social Studies in relevance to WW1 and WW2 as well as the social development of Germany and Europe during the 20's and 30's.

Oh yeah...I was still a kid back then

[JAC]

I believe there's still some old-fashioned morality clause in the teachers' contract, at least in Ontario. Something like this would probably get them in the Blue Pages.

[WontonTiger]

Ok, so they spend the entire day with your kids. Does that mean a teacher has to come home and be a complete introvert and do noting fun.


I defintitly remember my kindergarten teacher, she was a great teacher. But when she was at home maybe she was a husband swapper and attended orgys. Who knows, it was behind closed doors


Im finding a flaw in that logic. There are so many people in professional professions out there that probably do a lot of freaky stuff behind closed doors. Doesnt mean they do that at work

Thats why its called a personal life

And if it ever became public, it could mean the end of their careers. Agree or disagree with it, it's a symptom of the society we live in.

I don't care what they do on their own time (not in front of the kids), however a lot of kids (let alone their parents) are not prepared to deal with ideas of things like orgies. You can agree/disagree based on your own personal opinion, however in a public system, we have to be consistent.

I can't watch the video, so I don't know it's real content, and truthfully I don't care. I objected to this comment.
Who cares? What makes it anymore different than any other occupation?

They should have as much freedom of expression as everyone else. This isn't true in most contexts. A teacher should be smart enough to keep it behind closed doors, and in this case, they didn't.

Anyone in a professional position, or a position of power, has to watch what they advertise to the public.


Godwin's law...

Anyways, I guess you'll consent to 24/7 monitoring to make sure that you're doing anything that could be detrimental to the children, right?

We don't use cameras because most teachers' have the public trust. And if you understood the context of my quote, you'd understand that Godwin's law was first invoked by yourself.

I'm just saying that teacher's can't teach whatever they want. In their private life they can do whatever they want (as long as the public doesn't find out). I personally could care less (what they do on their time is their own business).


I didn't say teachers should teach kids that, but if a teacher openly speaks about personal matters, and a student finds it on the internet, I still think it's no big deal. And , if a kid does end up finding it, I'm sure he didn't search for the term "geometry math" (unless there's angles involved :lol:)



If you make a video talking about MK, post it online and my kid would find it, I wouldn't be start blaming you, maybe have a serious talk with the kid ..

I admit, I jumped to conclusions when I made my first post. I still stand by what I said, however I understand and agree with your perspective. I think the problem is that most parent's would not agree with how you would react. Most don't have the know how to explain that type of thing to a child, and most would balk at having to do so.

They are still taking their careers into their own hands by bringing their personal lives into the public discourse.


Mein Kampf is history...and freely available on the net as are all other historical documents and works. How is your argument in any way special?

I remember doing works in JHS that involved reading MK in Social Studies in relevance to WW1 and WW2 as well as the social development of Germany and Europe during the 20's and 30's.

Oh yeah...I was still a kid back then

Some people can handle that type of information at a young age, however without the proper problem solving abilities, and access to documents/books contrary to Mein Kampf, I don't think it's a good idea to teach that to children.

Mein Kampf is history written by Hitler. I've read most of the book myself, and most of his "history" is skewed by his overwhelming bias. History books should cover both sides of bias, Mein Kampf didn't. At least your studies covered all sides of the situation (I hope).

The point of what I was saying is that teacher's are not like everyone else. They have professional responsibility that most other jobs don't cover.

[Spidey]

And if it ever became public, it could mean the end of their careers. Agree or disagree with it, it's a symptom of the society we live in.

I don't care what they do on their own time (not in front of the kids), however a lot of kids (let alone their parents) are not prepared to deal with ideas of things like orgies. You can agree/disagree based on your own personal opinion, however in a public system, we have to be consistent.

I can't watch the video, so I don't know it's real content, and truthfully I don't care. I objected to this comment. This isn't true in most contexts. A teacher should be smart enough to keep it behind closed doors, and in this case, they didn't.

Anyone in a professional position, or a position of power, has to watch what they advertise to the public.



We don't use cameras because most teachers' have the public trust. And if you understood the context of my quote, you'd understand that Godwin's law was first invoked by yourself.

I'm just saying that teacher's can't teach whatever they want. In their private life they can do whatever they want (as long as the public doesn't find out). I personally could care less (what they do on their time is their own business).


In any profession if it ever became public your hooped. Just dont group teachers as the only ones.

[WontonTiger]

In any profession if it ever became public your hooped. Just dont group teachers as the only ones.

Do you really believe that?

There are a lot of professions that are like that, but it's not all of them. I know a lawyer who openly talks about his sex club visits, and it actually increases his client base. I think it could help in some professions, just not public school teaching.

[1xTiMeR]

Title reminds me of the episode where Mr.Ratburn stays at Arthur's house :lol:

[Peckerwood]

Some people can handle that type of information at a young age, however without the proper problem solving abilities, and access to documents/books contrary to Mein Kampf, I don't think it's a good idea to teach that to children.
Define "children"

Keep in mind that we teach sex ed to "children", and it doesnt turn them into prostitutes or gigolos. No more than teaching MK, or KM would turn them into Nazis and Communists.

Mein Kampf is history written by Hitler. I've read most of the book myself, and most of his "history" is skewed by his overwhelming bias. History books should cover both sides of bias, Mein Kampf didn't.
The primary reason to the inclusion of MK to regular curriculum is to present bias to counter other biases...not to make a case for any form or type of standing to either bias. The idea is to bring it into context of the motivations for the war by one of the most hideous minds in History. Leaving it out tends to leave out a great deal of the formative years of Germany after WW1.


At least your studies covered all sides of the situation (I hope).
Why would you think otherwise? :)

The point of what I was saying is that teacher's are not like everyone else. They have professional responsibility that most other jobs don't cover.
On this I completely agree

[Krakilin0405]

I say teachers can do whatever they want behind closed doors. For some reason, if it gets out (you stupidly leak a video, etc.), then there lies the problem. Its called a private or personal life for a reason.

I agree to the above... they can do what they want, but only behind closed doors. So if that teacher gets trashed at a house party, and pictures of her (puking, stripping down to her underwear etc) ends up on facebooks, and then the students finds them... she's in big trouble unfortunately =/

[CanadianMike]

I think it's great. Were far too shy and sensitive in this country. We should encourage people to be more free. Were far too uptight

But it's not like sex is a bad thing. Sure, little kids shouldn't be doing it, but then again, little kids shouldn't be drinking either, yet we don't force teachers not to drink when they're at home.
+1....we are wayy too uptight here about sex. critics act like were a 'sex crazed society now'...not even close, still lots of paranoid attitudes.

who cares what this teacher does in their personal time if it doesnt hurt anyone? as shaner said, sex isnt a bad thing. its time we started being realistic about it....this kind of reminds me of a thread on here where someone came in and said they teach sex ed in the catholic school board, and it seemed like a lot of avoidance of reality (e.g. 'sex only occurs when two people are in love and its only between those two', abstinence only instead of legitimate ways to avoid STDs, etc).

[YongeStChampion]

I think it's great. Were far too shy and sensitive in this country. We should encourage people to be more free. In Canada I'd you see a pair of boobs at the beach, half the guys stare and drool while half the women get offended and act like the devil himself made an appearance at the beach. Were far too uptight

That's funny considering you work in a prison.

Anyone here ever hear of the word decency?

[CanadianMike]

Anyone here ever hear of the word decency?
thats a very relative term....what you deem 'indecent' may not be what plenty of people deem to be 'indecent'.