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marcopoloca
May 16th, 2010, 09:31 PM
My friend waved at the driver and noted the driver license, the neighbor saw witness the incident as well.

My friend called 911 and took the dog to a nearby dog hospital and reported it to the police shortly afterward.

The dog was bleeding from the nose, x-way shows a fracture on the left shoulder but otherwise ok, according to the vet. He wanted to do an operation or charge $400 for an overnight observation. My friend decided the dog would receive a more watchful and caring treatment at home.

My friend will take the dog to their usual vet. in the morning.

Any advice as to what to do next, you think it'd be covered by the driver's insurance?

nalababe
May 16th, 2010, 09:58 PM
My friend waved at the driver and noted the driver license, the neighbor saw witness the incident as well.

My friend called 911 and took the dog to a nearby dog hospital and reported it to the police shortly afterward.

The dog was bleeding from the nose, x-way shows a fracture on the left shoulder but otherwise ok, according to the vet. He wanted to do an operation or charge $400 for an overnight observation. My friend decided the dog would receive a more watchful and caring treatment at home.

My friend will take the dog to their usual vet. in the morning.

Any advice as to what to do next, you think it'd be covered by the driver's insurance?

Not to be cruel, but if there had been any damage on the driver's car then the owner of the dog would be at fault and would be responsible for the damage to the car.

RevBen2006
May 16th, 2010, 09:59 PM
My friend waved at the driver and noted the driver license, the neighbor saw witness the incident as well.

My friend called 911 and took the dog to a nearby dog hospital and reported it to the police shortly afterward.

The dog was bleeding from the nose, x-way shows a fracture on the left shoulder but otherwise ok, according to the vet. He wanted to do an operation or charge $400 for an overnight observation. My friend decided the dog would receive a more watchful and caring treatment at home.

My friend will take the dog to their usual vet. in the morning.

Any advice as to what to do next, you think it'd be covered by the driver's insurance?
\\\yeah have your friend be more careful with his dog!!!!!!!!!
Tell him to put it on a leash!!

your friend decided better to take home dog so it could recive a more watchful eye? LMAO!!! more like your friend wanted to save the 400 lol

fing dog runs into street and its the drivers fault, its your friendds fault o

HBP
May 16th, 2010, 09:59 PM
Was the dog on a leash?

Rehan
May 16th, 2010, 10:10 PM
Not to be cruel, but if there had been any damage on the driver's car then the owner of the dog would be at fault and would be responsible for the damage to the car. +1
If the car was going under the speed limit and did not go off the road, it's not the driver's fault.

jason9945
May 16th, 2010, 10:18 PM
My friend waved at the driver and noted the driver license, the neighbor saw witness the incident as well.

My friend called 911 and took the dog to a nearby dog hospital and reported it to the police shortly afterward.

The dog was bleeding from the nose, x-way shows a fracture on the left shoulder but otherwise ok, according to the vet. He wanted to do an operation or charge $400 for an overnight observation. My friend decided the dog would receive a more watchful and caring treatment at home.

My friend will take the dog to their usual vet. in the morning.

Any advice as to what to do next, you think it'd be covered by the driver's insurance?

So this guy drove right up on the sidewalk and/or your friends property and hit the dog then drove off! Thats outrageous! I assume this is the case since you phoned 911.

I'm pretty sure that pet health benefits are not standard on most policies.

This comes to mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIeHvLsv9ns

The Rochester Mirkins
May 16th, 2010, 10:35 PM
I'm a dog lover, but by involving the cops you have let the driver of the car discover who the owner of the dog is. $400 vet bill? Expect to get sued for the damage to the car. The driver should have stopped and man upped but your friend will most likely need much more $ than the vet charged them.

This is all moot if it was a beige corolla.:lol:

susan123
May 17th, 2010, 09:26 AM
Yup - echo the previous sentiments. I am a dog owner and love animals and while it would have been nice if the driver stopped, your friend is the one in the wrong for not having proper care of his animal and is liable for any damages to the car.

And calling 911 was a complete waste of taxpayer money! They are not going to send an ambulance for a dog - and a complaint could have been made at any point in time (at which time they would have been informed that without reckless driving, hitting a pet/squirrel/etc. that ran on the road is not a crime.)

Having said that, I am sorry your friend had to go through this and hope the dog is reocovering well!

gilboman
May 17th, 2010, 09:36 AM
is there no common sense? a car hit a stray animal which is what the dog was. It was nice the driver didn't stop to ask for compensation.

1V4N
May 17th, 2010, 10:57 AM
being an animal lover and pet food/accessories store owner, I agree with all the others who have said the owner of the dog is at fault.

why was the dog not on a leash (if it was, then why was the owner holding the leash firmly so that the dog doesn't get into traffic)?

I see it way too many times, all these people who get pets, without any research into proper training/care of them....

I hope the dog gets better, its sad though that the owner would decide not to spend the $400 but to risk its health by bringing it home for observation...what if the dog developed a clot or seizure due to its injury overnight? I feel sad for the dog....

And why the hell would anyone call 911?? This thread has not garnered any sympathy from anyone here for good reason....just my $0.02

1V4N
May 17th, 2010, 10:59 AM
This is all moot if it was a beige corolla.:lol:

:arrowu: :D

I couldn't agree more!

Khiera
May 17th, 2010, 11:07 AM
being an animal lover and pet food/accessories store owner, I agree with all the others who have said the owner of the dog is at fault.

why was the dog not on a leash (if it was, then why was the owner holding the leash firmly so that the dog doesn't get into traffic)?

I see it way too many times, all these people who get pets, without any research into proper training/care of them....

I hope the dog gets better, its sad though that the owner would decide not to spend the $400 but to risk its health by bringing it home for observation...what if the dog developed a clot or seizure due to its injury overnight? I feel sad for the dog....

And why the hell would anyone call 911?? This thread has not garnered any sympathy from anyone here for good reason....just my $0.02

I feel very sad for the puppy, but yes, ditto.

I am a dog owner myself and am constantly amazed by how irresponsible some people can be when it comes to the care of their pets. It's not fair to the dog!!!

Sigh.

7jai
May 17th, 2010, 11:35 AM
Dog should've been on a leash. I think that's the general rule.

So here's my next question to the audience who thinks the driver should be charging the pet owner for car damages: "so if a human was walking on the street, and a car stuck the human - who would win that argument?"

a) the car - b/c of the damage the human had caused to his car during the collision, due to his stupidity for walking along the street.

or

b) the human - b/c the car struck and hurt the human (even though he shouldn't be walking on the street).

I don't see animals any differently, especially with dogs. These aren't pigeons or stray racoons (in which I don't think we should purposely hit, and should try to avoid on the streets without putting anyone else in danger of course).

Before anyone answers, i'm not on any side. I'm just throwing it out there for random debate. So don't go EMO on my response :lol:

circumventer
May 17th, 2010, 11:51 PM
My friend waved at the driver and noted the driver license, the neighbor saw witness the incident as well.

My friend called 911 and took the dog to a nearby dog hospital and reported it to the police shortly afterward.

The dog was bleeding from the nose, x-way shows a fracture on the left shoulder but otherwise ok, according to the vet. He wanted to do an operation or charge $400 for an overnight observation. My friend decided the dog would receive a more watchful and caring treatment at home.

My friend will take the dog to their usual vet. in the morning.

Any advice as to what to do next, you think it'd be covered by the driver's insurance?


400$ would buy him a new puppy. just give it a ringworm and they would euthanize it for free.

lioncar
May 18th, 2010, 06:15 PM
Dog should've been on a leash. I think that's the general rule.

So here's my next question to the audience who thinks the driver should be charging the pet owner for car damages: "so if a human was walking on the street, and a car stuck the human - who would win that argument?"

a) the car - b/c of the damage the human had caused to his car during the collision, due to his stupidity for walking along the street.

or

b) the human - b/c the car struck and hurt the human (even though he shouldn't be walking on the street).

I don't see animals any differently, especially with dogs. These aren't pigeons or stray racoons (in which I don't think we should purposely hit, and should try to avoid on the streets without putting anyone else in danger of course).

Before anyone answers, i'm not on any side. I'm just throwing it out there for random debate. So don't go EMO on my response :lol:

Don't thread-jack. Your 'hypothetical' situation doesn't apply here.

I'm assuming the dog ran into the street, and the car had no time to stop. It's not like the dog was walking on the sidewalk and the car veered onto the sidewalk to hit the dog.

If a person ran into the street all of a sudden, and the car was going (or below) the speed limit, then it's the person's fault for causing the accident.

dmxlite
May 18th, 2010, 09:48 PM
400$ would buy him a new puppy. just give it a ringworm and they would euthanize it for free.

>:(

Spray
May 18th, 2010, 10:20 PM
To be fair, sometimes you just don't realize you run over an animal.

I thought i ran over a cardboard box and i looked back and saw the car behind me stop. Ended up being a cat that jumped out of the bushes under my car. If I didn't see the person behind me stop in the middle of the road I never would have known.

originalnutta
May 18th, 2010, 11:31 PM
pretty sure the OP didn't expect this thread to backfire. he aint coming back.

jason9945
May 18th, 2010, 11:48 PM
pretty sure the OP didn't expect this thread to backfire. he aint coming back.

I was hoping he would.

LeeBoA
May 19th, 2010, 05:03 AM
So your friend calls 911 and takes this all so seriously yet he can't pay a $400 vet bill to see if hte dog is okay. Then you state he brought the dog home because it seems like a better investment...

Best advice is to look for better days ahead.

BaboSo
May 26th, 2010, 11:20 PM
An article in the Star about a dog being hit and killed by a motorist and now the owners of the dog have to pay for damages to the vehicle.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/815050--dog-killed-by-car-family-billed-for-the-damages?bn=1

caliente
May 27th, 2010, 03:47 AM
Regarding that article, I agree that the entire situation is unfortunate and a very sad time for the family (I am a pet owner). However, I would personally just have my own insurance pay this claim or pay out of pocket assuming my pet had been on the road and the driver was not reckless (e.g. not drunk, did not mount the curb). Maybe they are not 100% at fault, but I would feel embarrassed claiming I was completely NOT at fault.

Just because their dog was used to roaming around outside unleashed - and this was usually okay - doesn't mean that he should have been allowed to do so.

manyapples
May 27th, 2010, 07:26 AM
http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-07-15/1247627894508.jpg

james3210
May 27th, 2010, 11:46 AM
pretty sure the op didn't expect this thread to backfire. He aint coming back.


i was hoping he would.

+1

Feel bad for the dog. :( :(

Nurse2B
Jun 3rd, 2010, 12:14 PM
I love dogs & I can most definitely understand how upset your friend must of been to see her little guy get hit by a car, it's devastating, but, your friend needs to keep a better eye on his/her dog. I assume the driver didn't drive up on the property & hit the dog. Chances are, the dog wasn't on a leash, and roamed onto the roadway. Sorry to say, but the driver did you a favor. If he had stopped & there was any damage to his car you'd have to pay since you were careless in watching your dog.

Please, keep your dog on a leash, or keep him on the property. It could've been much worse, most dogs that get hit by cars don't survive. Be more careful. I never let my dog off his leash no matter how much I may trust him, all it takes is for him to see something on the other side of the road that interests him, and boom, he's running there like a bullet, lol.

Hope the little pup recovers, all the best.

Agent95
Jun 3rd, 2010, 08:50 PM
My friend waved at the driver and noted the driver license, the neighbor saw witness the incident as well.

My friend called 911 and took the dog to a nearby dog hospital and reported it to the police shortly afterward.

The dog was bleeding from the nose, x-way shows a fracture on the left shoulder but otherwise ok, according to the vet. He wanted to do an operation or charge $400 for an overnight observation. My friend decided the dog would receive a more watchful and caring treatment at home.

My friend will take the dog to their usual vet. in the morning.

Any advice as to what to do next, you think it'd be covered by the driver's insurance?

I'm pretty sure the vet could take better care of your friend since your friend DID let the dog out of his sight ..

SCEvan
Jun 3rd, 2010, 09:47 PM
Backyard & fence, your friend should try it sometime.

stevelam
Jun 6th, 2010, 05:39 PM
i see it way too many times, all these people who get pets, without any research into proper training/care of them....


+1

gman
Jun 6th, 2010, 06:29 PM
Dog should've been on a leash. I think that's the general rule.

So here's my next question to the audience who thinks the driver should be charging the pet owner for car damages: "so if a human was walking on the street, and a car stuck the human - who would win that argument?"

a) the car - b/c of the damage the human had caused to his car during the collision, due to his stupidity for walking along the street.

or

b) the human - b/c the car struck and hurt the human (even though he shouldn't be walking on the street).

I don't see animals any differently, especially with dogs. These aren't pigeons or stray racoons (in which I don't think we should purposely hit, and should try to avoid on the streets without putting anyone else in danger of course).

Before anyone answers, i'm not on any side. I'm just throwing it out there for random debate. So don't go EMO on my response :lol:

Heard of Jay walking?
If the parents let a baby run out to the street and be hit by a car, whose fault is it? Please don't tell me it would be the driver.

A driver usually does not hit anything which is 'walking' on the street. The accident usually it 'jumps' to the street out of nowhere.

zonetbh
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:36 PM
My friend waved at the driver and noted the driver license, the neighbor saw witness the incident as well.

My friend called 911 and took the dog to a nearby dog hospital and reported it to the police shortly afterward.

The dog was bleeding from the nose, x-way shows a fracture on the left shoulder but otherwise ok, according to the vet. He wanted to do an operation or charge $400 for an overnight observation. My friend decided the dog would receive a more watchful and caring treatment at home.

My friend will take the dog to their usual vet. in the morning.

Any advice as to what to do next, you think it'd be covered by the driver's insurance?

I think the owner of that animal should have been taking proper car of his puppy and ensuring that puppy was nowhere near a busy street.

What is with people constantly trying to blame someone else for their own mistake? If your dog is on a public street and gets hit its the OWNERS fault for allowing the dog to go on there. Its not the drivers faults who are using the street for what its intended for.

Honestly, take some responsibility for your pets and stop trying to blame the rest of the world when you screw up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tell that to your friend.

tylaw83
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:51 PM
your friend decided better to take home dog so it could recive a more watchful eye? LMAO!!! more like your friend wanted to save the 400 lol

+1
Some people seriously shouldn't be dog owners.

thefleet
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:51 PM
An article in the Star about a dog being hit and killed by a motorist and now the owners of the dog have to pay for damages to the vehicle.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/815050--dog-killed-by-car-family-billed-for-the-damages?bn=1

:arrowu: Good article!

Hot Ice
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:07 PM
the original date of this thread is May 16th

teleguitar
Jun 7th, 2010, 11:16 PM
It might be an old article but I agree with the poster above saying some people shouldn't be allowed to be dog owners.

The sad thing is this puppy didn't know any better and now has to endure pain and suffering because of the irresponsible dog owner who let it go off the leash.

I really despise dog owners who let their dogs go off the leash. In many cases, it's dogs that should NOT be loose either as they're usually aggressive towards other dogs or people.

There are leash laws. How come it seems like hardly anyone follows them?

I watched a lady walk her dogs and she took them off the leash. They both crossed the road and a driver had to suddenly stop and the tires screeched. The driver honked the horn and waited for the 2nd dog to cross the street. I see things like this every day especially dogs that are agressive but the owner doesn't give a crap.

Syne
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:47 AM
Well since it's been said a million times that the dog owner was at fault, I'll spare jumping into the chorus.

The driver definitely should have stopped to see if the owner needed a quick cell phone or to help slow traffic while the dog is moved off the street. I don't care how negligent of a dog owner I was, if my dog ran into the street, got hit by a guy in a car who pulled over and immediately started on about the damage to his fender, I'd probably clock him a good one and deal with the repercussions later.

There's just certain insensitivities you don't tolerate, and that's one of them.

teleguitar
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:51 AM
Well since it's been said a million times that the dog owner was at fault, I'll spare jumping into the chorus.

The driver definitely should have stopped to see if the owner needed a quick cell phone or to help slow traffic while the dog is moved off the street. I don't care how negligent of a dog owner I was, if my dog ran into the street, got hit by a guy in a car who pulled over and immediately started on about the damage to his fender, I'd probably clock him a good one and deal with the repercussions later.True. The driver is just as bad to just run into the dog and speed off.

What burns me up is if this happens to a child or just anybody (regardless of age), the driver is charged with 'hit and run.' But, since it's a dog, no one cares. Any time it's to do with an animal, in particular, a family pet, it is disregarded by society. 'Ah well...' seems to be the attitude.

Syne
Jun 24th, 2010, 08:42 PM
^ That's actually a good point.

What if it was a child. Would the same sentiments expressed here, apply?

jason9945
Jun 25th, 2010, 03:35 AM
True. The driver is just as bad to just run into the dog and speed off.

What burns me up is if this happens to a child or just anybody (regardless of age), the driver is charged with 'hit and run.' But, since it's a dog, no one cares. Any time it's to do with an animal, in particular, a family pet, it is disregarded by society. 'Ah well...' seems to be the attitude.

There are laws in place regarding how pedestrians and cars use the roads. No such laws exist regarding uncontrolled animals. Why would anyone stop? The driver probably thought it was a racoon or something.

duckdown
Jun 25th, 2010, 03:36 AM
That's a sad story

ballerz
Jun 25th, 2010, 07:22 AM
sad story indeed... the driver should have stopped.

sprung
Jun 25th, 2010, 11:30 AM
Very sad. I have a dog too but I keep her on a leash 'cause even at 9 yrs , squirrels are just too tempting to chase. On this (http://www.cucirca.com/2009/11/30/family-guy-season-8-episode-8-dog-gone/) Family Guy (at 10min mark) Brian confesses to hitting and killing a dog with his car. The police and family reaction is very cruel.

Syne
Jun 25th, 2010, 12:05 PM
There are laws in place regarding how pedestrians and cars use the roads. No such laws exist regarding uncontrolled animals. Why would anyone stop? The driver probably thought it was a racoon or something.

Ok, so if a child failed to follow the laws and "jay walked" out from behind a big car into traffic, and got hit, we would be blaming the parents, right?

.. And it would be ok to drive off, because it's not the driver's fault, right? Could've just been a big raccoon, right?

I fail to see how you're missing the parallel here. Just to be clear, I'm not saying that pets = kids, I'm saying that the same principles for stopping out of courtesy apply.

I'm wondering why one is considered a 'hit n' run', a serious criminal offense, while the other is just owner negligence, and not even worth the time to stop, put the car in reverse, and run it back over *thump* *thump* to put it out of its misery.

y2jversion1
Jun 25th, 2010, 12:14 PM
ok, so if a child failed to follow the laws and "jay walked" out from behind a big car into traffic, and got hit, we would be blaming the parents, right?

.. And it would be ok to drive off, because it's not the driver's fault, right? Could've just been a big raccoon, right?

I fail to see how you're missing the parallel here. Just to be clear, i'm not saying that pets = kids, i'm saying that the same principles for stopping out of courtesy apply.

I'm wondering why one is considered a 'hit n' run', a serious criminal offense, while the other is just owner negligence, and not even worth the time to stop, put the car in reverse, and run it back over *thump* *thump* to put it out of its misery.

+1

rems
Jun 25th, 2010, 12:21 PM
Ok, so if a child failed to follow the laws and "jay walked" out from behind a big car into traffic, and got hit, we would be blaming the parents, right?

.. And it would be ok to drive off, because it's not the driver's fault, right? Could've just been a big raccoon, right?

I fail to see how you're missing the parallel here. Just to be clear, I'm not saying that pets = kids, I'm saying that the same principles for stopping out of courtesy apply.

I'm wondering why one is considered a 'hit n' run', a serious criminal offense, while the other is just owner negligence, and not even worth the time to stop, put the car in reverse, and run it back over *thump* *thump* to put it out of its misery.

Probably the same reason why it`s against the law to leave your 1 year old child home alone whereas it`s ok to leave your 1 year old dog by himself. Humans and animals have different sets of rights...

actng
Jun 25th, 2010, 04:47 PM
most of you are blowing this out of proportion.

the driver, the hypothetical child/pedestrian scenarios, none of those have any relevance to this thread.

the fault or act that we should focus on is why the dog was able to run away uncontrolled.

the fault is no less serious should the dog NOT have been hit by the car. the hit by car only prompted this thread to be made, but it doesn't make the dog owner any less irresponsible.


don't get into a discussion of fault determination rules. it doesn't change the fact dog owners have a responsibility to keep their dogs safe.

wasserware
Jun 25th, 2010, 09:03 PM
Well since it's been said a million times that the dog owner was at fault, I'll spare jumping into the chorus.

The driver definitely should have stopped to see if the owner needed a quick cell phone or to help slow traffic while the dog is moved off the street. I don't care how negligent of a dog owner I was, if my dog ran into the street, got hit by a guy in a car who pulled over and immediately started on about the damage to his fender, I'd probably clock him a good one and deal with the repercussions later.

There's just certain insensitivities you don't tolerate, and that's one of them.

I am not sure if in this case the driver even noticed he hit a puppy since it is very small. It could just sound like a small "thud". But if the dog indeed runs out due to irresponsible owner and damaged the car, then the driver should just call the non-emergency police line and let them sort it out instead of going into a confrontation with each other.

But in this case, the dog owner is showing 100% lack of responsibility by keeping the dog at home away from the vet because he wanted to save $400. It is akin to saying, crap I broke my leg and I think I can heal/cure myself without the need of a doctor.

Vladimir
Jul 20th, 2010, 10:33 AM
My friend hit a dog a couple months ago (hopefully not this persons) but it was night time on a street with no lights. a person was walking the dog with NO LEASH at 10pm at night. He was driving speed limit, when all of a sudden the dog ran out right in front of his car.
He kept on driving and looked in the mirror and the person had the worse look on thier face. He said couple days later in the local paper there was a letter to the editor how some horrible person hit their dog and just drove off without stopping, and saying how could someone be so horrible.

My friend said," yeah because I'm going to stop, feel super bad for this person, have to get the police involved, getting pressured to fork over my own money for vet bills, and probably ruin the next month of my life with harassment from the person... um no, not when it wasn't even remotely close to being my fault."
Sure he felt bad, but whats done is done, what is he going to do about it? Not like he hit a person.

If you want to walk your dog use a damn leash

MichelleIMG
Jul 20th, 2010, 01:40 PM
well if they got the license number than sue the guy

Yankees 1903
Jul 20th, 2010, 02:00 PM
well if they got the license number than sue the guy

Won't have much of a case if the driver was breaking no laws.

Syne
Jul 20th, 2010, 02:08 PM
My friend hit a dog a couple months ago (hopefully not this persons) but it was night time on a street with no lights. a person was walking the dog with NO LEASH at 10pm at night. He was driving speed limit, when all of a sudden the dog ran out right in front of his car.
He kept on driving and looked in the mirror and the person had the worse look on thier face. He said couple days later in the local paper there was a letter to the editor how some horrible person hit their dog and just drove off without stopping, and saying how could someone be so horrible.

My friend said," yeah because I'm going to stop, feel super bad for this person, have to get the police involved, getting pressured to fork over my own money for vet bills, and probably ruin the next month of my life with harassment from the person... um no, not when it wasn't even remotely close to being my fault."
Sure he felt bad, but whats done is done, what is he going to do about it? Not like he hit a person.

If you want to walk your dog use a damn leash

I think it's great that at the crucial few seconds of an emergency situation, your "friend" was slack-jawed behind the wheel, playing out a pros and cons list in his head. So what if he was speeding, would that have changed things?

Using your exact reasoning, I don't see how it would matter in the slightest if it was a kid. Exact same situation, different variables. Still not your fault. Parent should have kept a closer eye on their child.

If your primary reaction in an emergency situation is to finger point, then you are a miserable human being.

Vladimir
Jul 20th, 2010, 02:57 PM
well he stopped (for a few seconds) because he didnt even realize what he hit (small dog). he looked in rear view mirror.. then just took off.
What you mean list of pros and cons, it only takes 2 seconds to think of "I dont want to deal with this"
And no speeding wouldnt have changed things

And yes parent should keep closer eye on kid, but it is totally different when it is a person vs a dog. Im sure he would stop if he hit a person. He was also driving on a 40km/h road

Blazin_Sunfire
Jul 20th, 2010, 03:46 PM
he should have stopped. the dogowner would be liable for the damage to his car, as the dog was not on a leash, roaming freely!

undacova
Jul 20th, 2010, 05:03 PM
I think it's great that at the crucial few seconds of an emergency situation, your "friend" was slack-jawed behind the wheel, playing out a pros and cons list in his head. So what if he was speeding, would that have changed things?

Using your exact reasoning, I don't see how it would matter in the slightest if it was a kid. Exact same situation, different variables. Still not your fault. Parent should have kept a closer eye on their child.

If your primary reaction in an emergency situation is to finger point, then you are a miserable human being.

So basically kids = dogs?

i never knew we were allowed to own kids like we own dogs, good to know

Syne
Jul 20th, 2010, 10:53 PM
So basically kids = dogs?

i never knew we were allowed to own kids like we own dogs, good to know

See post #42, where I disclaim this before you even mention it. That's why it helps to read entire threads, and not just the last few posts.

adamtheman
Jul 20th, 2010, 11:22 PM
In this case it doesn't matter what the owner of the dog thinks, it matters what the law says. The bottom line is, local laws and bylaws all require dogs to be on leashes. That article from TheStar is rediculous. Going to the press about your dog being hit is almost as bad as calling 911... what a waste of newspaper and ink. People are so stupid sometimes.

This thread does have a lot of anger though, but I think people are sick and tired of people treating animals like human beings, and I am too. It's a bit rediculous when people start getting out of control, leaving inheritances to animals, building seperate houses for them, buying them $20,000 outfits, etc. There's some serious issues behind that.

TifaLockhart
Jul 21st, 2010, 07:41 PM
wow this thread just won't go away I keep seeing it jump to the top.

I dunno I can't really blame the driver if a pet or if a small child or an adult for that matter runs into the street and the driver can't stop in time.

I do think the insurance company going after the family was definitely poor taste but it's in a big insurance company after all. You expect stuff like that from them.

Rich&Real
Jul 24th, 2010, 03:00 PM
i am wondering how the dog is doing now.

heywayne
Aug 3rd, 2010, 05:46 AM
That is a sad story.

CupOfCats
Aug 3rd, 2010, 06:59 AM
I didn't even realise it was the law to have your dog on a leash, I have mine walking besides me without all this time, although I have it handy if there is no sidewalk.

I'm not sure why every single thread on RFD ends up being about morals and people getting on their high horse, is there ever a day without it?

Let's hope the dog has a speedy recovery!!

rems
Aug 3rd, 2010, 09:29 AM
I didn't even realise it was the law to have your dog on a leash, I have mine walking besides me without all this time, although I have it handy if there is no sidewalk.

I'm not sure why every single thread on RFD ends up being about morals and people getting on their high horse, is there ever a day without it?

Let's hope the dog has a speedy recovery!!

And people need to take responsibility instead of blaming everyone else for their mistake...

Sylvestre
Aug 3rd, 2010, 09:51 AM
In my neighbourhood there are so many owners who let their dogs run free while jaywalking. The dogs usually run out infront and don't stop when a car is coming. I'm amazed at owners who don't see the issue with basically allowing their pet to be killed.

Personally I think the OP should be charged with animal cruelty for allowing their puppy to be struck when it was so easy to prevent the accident.

aricebox
Aug 4th, 2010, 09:51 AM
Don't mean to hi-jack but i see this crap with my neighbours, except it's with their small children. They just let the kids run around the street like they own it.

wasserware
Aug 4th, 2010, 05:25 PM
In this case it doesn't matter what the owner of the dog thinks, it matters what the law says. The bottom line is, local laws and bylaws all require dogs to be on leashes. That article from TheStar is rediculous. Going to the press about your dog being hit is almost as bad as calling 911... what a waste of newspaper and ink. People are so stupid sometimes.

This thread does have a lot of anger though, but I think people are sick and tired of people treating animals like human beings, and I am too. It's a bit rediculous when people start getting out of control, leaving inheritances to animals, building seperate houses for them, buying them $20,000 outfits, etc. There's some serious issues behind that.

Well said, obviously the economic recession didnt put an end to the craziness.