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vodooo
Jun 2nd, 2010, 04:24 PM
What could happen if I leave the company without giving the minimum 2 weeks notice?

realcanadian
Jun 2nd, 2010, 04:29 PM
For one, you certainly won't get a good reference for your next job. Secondly, you won't get paid for those two weeks. Other than that, I'm not sure they can do anything about it.

olliebambino
Jun 2nd, 2010, 04:42 PM
For one, you certainly won't get a good reference for your next job. Secondly, you won't get paid for those two weeks. Other than that, I'm not sure they can do anything about it.

Agreed.

With regards to two weeks notice(sorry for asking a question in your thread vodoo), I am the assistant manager at a retail store. Would I give a letter for 2 weeks notice or would it considered "resignation"?

professional
Jun 3rd, 2010, 05:22 PM
Agreed.

With regards to two weeks notice(sorry for asking a question in your thread vodoo), I am the assistant manager at a retail store. Would I give a letter for 2 weeks notice or would it considered "resignation"?

In your resignation letter, just state when you want your last day to be and put that date to 2 weeks from now. If you want to dress it up, you can say something like "During this period, I will do all I can to assist in the smooth transfer of my responsibilities..blah blah blah".

1jVu
Jun 7th, 2010, 10:34 AM
basically no good reference, if you worked there for a long period of time and you do have good relations with the management team, a reference would be good to have since you have years invested.

if its something very short term and you made your big break with something much better and dont need the reference, then by all means leave.

if you dont have good relations with the management team you could just walk out on a shift :lol:

C_C
Jun 7th, 2010, 11:14 AM
if you dont have good relations with the management team you could just walk out on a shift :lol:

This is extremely unprofessional and burning bridges doesn't help matters, it's smart to give two weeks and try to leave on a good note.

bobbings
Jun 7th, 2010, 11:16 AM
2 week notice? In 2 weeks, they're going to notice I haven't BEEN at work for 2 weeks lol I think it was from Chris Rock or Chris Tucker.

whampoa
Jun 7th, 2010, 11:41 AM
Why are people so uptight with good reference?

Most companies are only allowed to give out the name of the employee and date of employment.

And nothing else, even good recommendation or not.

And if they say anything else that's detrimental about the former employee, they'll get sued or the HR person is in trouble.

And the 2 weeks notice is a courtesy to the employer but not necessary.

Do you think your employer will give you 2 weeks notice, if they have to let you go tomorrow?

starkiller2010
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:16 PM
Why are people so uptight with good reference?

Most companies are only allowed to give out the name of the employee and date of employment.

And nothing else, even good recommendation or not.

And if they say anything else that's detrimental about the former employee, they'll get sued or the HR person is in trouble.

And the 2 weeks notice is a courtesy to the employer but not necessary.

Do you think your employer will give you 2 weeks notice, if they have to let you go tomorrow?

While it is true that most of the time references are only to confirm you worked where you worked and position, it is still bad to burn bridges, especially in smaller industries where people know people. If your name gets leaked out by word of mouth that you just got up and left, it is not going to help you out in future terms. Its not just a courtesy either; you should check your employee handbook for that. Sure, you can bet that the company won't go after you for breach of contract (if they have a clause). Also, companies DO give you 2 weeks notice if you qualify; its called pay in lieu of..

vodooo
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:32 PM
1. I like some of the management and they (CFO+controller) like me = good reference even if I don`t provide 2 weeks notice. Why? Because I do my job and we are in the same boat...
2. I(we) hate the company(small-mid size family owned private company, no profit in the last 5 years, target: pay big bonus+dividend to certain people: CEO + family employees in key areas.
3. In the end I don`t really care about the company because they don`t really care about me

C_C
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:48 PM
The point is that IT DOESN'T MATTER how little you care for it, you should aim to leave on a positive note. If you absolutely can't do it then be prepared as another posted mentioned for your name to potential be tarnished through word of mouth.

vodooo
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:07 PM
Thanks for your answer.

Question #2: The company paid for education-3000$ and I have to stay with the company 3 more months before I can give my resignation. Let`s assume I resign today, no notice and no education reimbursed. How big is the risk?

Ethan15
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:12 PM
Thanks for your answer.

Question #2: The company paid for education-3000$ and I have to stay with the company 3 more months before I can give my resignation. Let`s assume I resign today, no notice and no education reimbursed. How big is the risk?

If you did sign something which indicates that in lieu of your education, you have to stay in the company for 3 more months -then they have the ability to demand that money back. They may or may not exercise this option.

However, if you didn't sign anything about staying 3 more months then it is going to be an uphill climb for them to ask the money back.

vodooo
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:43 PM
let`s assume that I signed a form with HR. What could happen. Just a scenario

Ethan15
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:59 PM
let`s assume that I signed a form with HR. What could happen. Just a scenario

If you did sign the form then it's purely at their discretion whether to exercise that option or not. As always, be prepared. Do you have that money with you? or if you don't - can you ask your parents for that?

Of course, you can always say that you don't have the money right now and at that point, you may commit to some sort of a payment plan and hopefully it's mutually agreeable.

Of course, the best scenario is when they just "forget about it" as like you say, it's non profit and there seems to be little accountability going around.

vodooo
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:19 PM
Yes, but the question is: can they afford to sue me? I think the legal fees> debt. It`s not my case, just curious

tylaw83
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:19 PM
Why are people so uptight with good reference?

Most companies are only allowed to give out the name of the employee and date of employment.

And nothing else, even good recommendation or not.

And if they say anything else that's detrimental about the former employee, they'll get sued or the HR person is in trouble.

And the 2 weeks notice is a courtesy to the employer but not necessary.

Do you think your employer will give you 2 weeks notice, if they have to let you go tomorrow?

Good employees will almost ALWAYS have a boss that's willing to give a personal character reference.

If you can't come up with something from your previous work place, you either have a really good reason or you have something to hide.

Oh and they might not be able to say "he's lazy," but they can certainly give out hard facts like "he failed to give two weeks notice" or "he did not meet sales targets for the last 3 quarters"

Ethan15
Jun 7th, 2010, 05:54 PM
Yes, but the question is: can they afford to sue me? I think the legal fees> debt. It`s not my case, just curious

If they decide to pursue this from you and escalate it, they will turn over your file to collections. As this happens your credit score might get impacted as well.

In regards to the high legal fees > debt, do you know that the cost of litigation can be added to the judgment if the plaintiff wins?

If I were you, I would try convincing them that you may not have the cash for the time being - however, if insisted, then make a payment plan.

whampoa
Jun 7th, 2010, 10:47 PM
Good employees will almost ALWAYS have a boss that's willing to give a personal character reference.

If you can't come up with something from your previous work place, you either have a really good reason or you have something to hide.

Oh and they might not be able to say "he's lazy," but they can certainly give out hard facts like "he failed to give two weeks notice" or "he did not meet sales targets for the last 3 quarters"

It's called libel and ground for civil lawsuit.

That's why employer only confirm name of the employee, place of employment and nothing more.

Don't believe me, ask your manager what they will said, if someone called them for reference check.