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nosnoop
Feb 2nd, 2011, 01:11 PM
By using Putty to my PBO, I found out that my USB volume has been mounted as: /tmp/usbmounts/sda1/
sda1 is the first USB volume you plugged in, and sdb1 would be the second. It does not matter whether you plugged it in the front or back USB port; it is the sequence which matters.
1 -When I'm using Putty to edit /usr/local/bin/scripts/Movie_Jukebox/Movie_Jukebox.rss what exactly am I changing; I just see a lot of code, but I don't know what I should change?
2- After editing the above, what do I put into my POHD Jukebox Path in TViXiE2Playon!HD?
It says 'select RSS, and choose accordingly' but I'm still not clear on this?
For the POHD Jukebox Path, if you are using USB external hard drive, choose RSS, and then choose USB sda1 or sdb1.
As for the Movie_Jukebox.rss file, open it and look for the following lines:
<item>
<title>Movie Jukebox</title>
<link>rss_file:///tmp/usbmounts/sdb1/Movies/Jukebox/category.rss</link>
Let say you put all your movies in the USB hard drive under a directory called "MyMovies". And in TViXiE2Playon!HD, you set the "Put Jukebox folder in" to "X:\MyMovies"; you would see a new Jukebox folder under "MyMovies" after you run TViXiE2Playon!HD.
So the location of your category.rss file would be at "X:\MyMovies\Jukebox\category.rss"
You would need to change the line above to
"rss_file:///tmp/usbmounts/sda1/MyMovies/Jukebox/category.rss"
Don't forget to change the sdb1 to sda1.
To minimize editing, you can just use "Movies" folder name at root, and put Jukebox under it. "X:\Movies\Jukebox\..."
Then you simply need to change the sdb1 to sda1.
jpleau
Feb 2nd, 2011, 03:03 PM
new MIR is out, $45 now and is good till Feb 14th.
New price after price match is $47!
To get $47, pm amazon.ca $92 (http://www.amazon.ca/Patriot-Memory-Office-High-Definition-PCMPBO25/dp/B002Q4U9PY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1296673338&sr=8-1)
just_For_ipod
Feb 2nd, 2011, 03:52 PM
new MIR is out, $45 now and is good till Feb 14th.
New price after price match is $47!
To get $47, pm amazon.ca $92 (http://www.amazon.ca/Patriot-Memory-Office-High-Definition-PCMPBO25/dp/B002Q4U9PY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1296673338&sr=8-1)
How does the rebate work? Is it valid for only some stores? Or can you buy it anywhere and get the rebate?
I notice on the first post some stores have "No MIR" besides them.
nosnoop
Feb 2nd, 2011, 04:12 PM
How does the rebate work? Is it valid for only some stores?
Yes, it is store specific. That's why you need to price match and buy from only those stores with rebates.
audit13
Feb 2nd, 2011, 04:20 PM
When a firmware update is applied to the PBO, regardless of whether it is official or third-party, is everything from the current firmware erased and re-written or just with certain releases of official firmware?
ppl4golf
Feb 2nd, 2011, 05:40 PM
This thing is not worth the money and time. It took me hours to get it working. Western Digital has a more mature custom firmware and support.
In the end I decided to use Plex (OSX) and extend it to other TV's using Apple TV. Light Years faster and better. No fake moviesheets using tvgen.
There is nothing nobody can do nothing for you if you don't not know why you get a PBO in the first place.
The main function which is to play whatever you throw at it and the PBO plays 99% of them well. I have to say the PBO does that as good if not better than anything else even the ones not in the same price range.
If your intent is to do online content, then no, the PBO is not appealing in that regard...not even after extensive tweaks...at least not to me.
shaolinmonk
Feb 2nd, 2011, 06:11 PM
This thing is not worth the money and time. It took me hours to get it working. Western Digital has a more mature custom firmware and support.
In the end I decided to use Plex (OSX) and extend it to other TV's using Apple TV. Light Years faster and better. No fake moviesheets using tvgen.
appletv 1 or 2? appletv2 has some really good dev going for it right now.. once it's get a bit better i'm swapping all my pbo's... i had appletv1 as well and sold it..wasn't reliable for hd content...
just_For_ipod
Feb 2nd, 2011, 07:13 PM
Yes, it is store specific. That's why you need to price match and buy from only those stores with rebates.
And is the only way to tell if the rebate applies to a specific store, is by seeing if the rebate is advertised on the site?
I checked the patriot website and it lists the rebate but doesn't say anything about the store.
eman747
Feb 2nd, 2011, 07:22 PM
And is the only way to tell if the rebate applies to a specific store, is by seeing if the rebate is advertised on the site?
I checked the patriot website and it lists the rebate but doesn't say anything about the store.
I brought the PBO in mid December at Canada Computers, I just got the rebate yesterday.
newt_101
Feb 2nd, 2011, 07:25 PM
This thing is driving me crazy!
I installed the firmware upgrade for the Mede8er V4, after having lots of problems with previous firmwares and now when my PBO boots up my screen keeps jumping, so I can't clearly make out where to go to click for the system upgrade, so I can reinstall the PBO Official Firmware and start fresh.
Can someone please please please tell me, perhaps where to move my keys (L,L,R,U,D, Enter; like those old NES games lol) to get to the screen where the the PBO will reboot from my USB key?
It's on the Mede8er V4 right now and I've been trying for the last 2 hours :S
Thanks so so much!
nosnoop
Feb 2nd, 2011, 07:30 PM
And is the only way to tell if the rebate applies to a specific store, is by seeing if the rebate is advertised on the site?
I checked the patriot website and it lists the rebate but doesn't say anything about the store.
Where did you find the rebate?
NCIX rebate form can be found here (http://www.mirhelp.com/patriot/patriot-rebates-february-01-14-ncix-exclusive-2011), and it clearly stated "NCIX Exclusive" both on the web page and in the form (Qualifying retailers).
Likewise for the rebate from Memory Express.
nosnoop
Feb 2nd, 2011, 07:33 PM
I installed the firmware upgrade for the Mede8er V4, after having lots of problems with previous firmwares and now when my PBO boots up my screen keeps jumping, so I can't clearly make out where to go to click for the system upgrade, so I can reinstall the PBO Official Firmware and start fresh.
Calm down!
It's jumping because it has been switched to PAL mode!
Just go to Settings -> Video and select NTSC instead of PAL.
There is no need to switch back to PBO firmware.
If you have problem with PBO jukebox setup, it is much easier to go with MedeBO.
There is no need to telnet and edit files etc...
newt_101
Feb 2nd, 2011, 07:45 PM
Calm down!
It's jumping because it has been switched to PAL mode!
Just go to Settings -> Video and select NTSC instead of PAL.
There is no need to switch back to PBO firmware.
If you have problem with PBO jukebox setup, it is much easier to go with MedeBO.
There is no need to telnet and edit files etc...
I'd love to switch it back, but I can't see the screen because it keeps jumping around, so i can't make out where PAL mode is to change it.
If you could please tell me what to click on my remote to get there, it would be greatly appreciated, as I mentioned in my last post.
Thanks!
nosnoop
Feb 2nd, 2011, 08:03 PM
I'd love to switch it back, but I can't see the screen because it keeps jumping around, so i can't make out where PAL mode is to change it.
If you could please tell me what to click on my remote to get there, it would be greatly appreciated, as I mentioned in my last post.
I am not at home right now, so I don't have access to the PBO.
But how is your TV connected to the PBO? Are you using composite cable as recommended for firmware update?
If you are, you should still be able to read the screen, even though it is "jumping" and distorted.
newt_101
Feb 2nd, 2011, 08:05 PM
I am not at home right now, so I don't have access to the PBO.
But how is your TV connected to the PBO? Are you using composite cable as recommended for firmware update?
If you are, you should still be able to read the screen, even though it is "jumping" and distorted.
I have a CRT/tube television, so it doesn't have HDMI connectivity, just composite cables.
I can't view the screen, I can see certain things, but not clear enough to be able to see where I should move the direction of the remote or to see highlighted sections; trust me I've tried :S
nosnoop
Feb 2nd, 2011, 08:16 PM
I have a CRT/tube television, so it doesn't have HDMI connectivity, just composite cables.
I can't view the screen, I can see certain things, but not clear enough to be able to see where I should move the direction of the remote or to see highlighted sections; trust me I've tried :S
I'll tell you the key sequence to get to Video system settings or System Upgrade when I am home, but it won't be for a few hours.
Anyone else running MedeBO can help out newt_101?
newt_101
Feb 2nd, 2011, 08:19 PM
I'll tell you the key sequence to get to Video system settings or System Upgrade when I am home, but it won't be for a few hours.
Anyone else running MedeBO can help out newt_101?
Thanks.
If anyone can help me out on this I'd really appreciate it.
I'll press the 'Thanks' button as much as I can, which is once, but it will be a very powerful click!
newt_101
Feb 2nd, 2011, 08:28 PM
Thanks.
If anyone can help me out on this I'd really appreciate it.
I'll press the 'Thanks' button as much as I can, which is once, but it will be a very powerful click!
Pressing the 'TV System' button on the remote toggles between the different viewings, 480p, 720, 1080, Pal, Ntsc.
Got it working.
Thanks very much!!!
nosnoop
Feb 2nd, 2011, 08:38 PM
Pressing the 'TV System' button on the remote toggles between the different viewings, 480p, 720, 1080, Pal, Ntsc.
That's great! I did not even know that the button exists! :o
Makes it much simpler.
newt_101
Feb 2nd, 2011, 10:19 PM
That's great! I did not even know that the button exists! :o
Makes it much simpler.
Thanks once again for your help.
I'm now in the process of using ThumbGen to create the covers for the files; the automatic process makes things very easy.
Does anyone know if and when a firmware upgrade that is easy to use (like MedeBO ) but will incorporate online content, instead of just internet radio?
Would love to watch trailers, videos and other streaming content.
audit13
Feb 2nd, 2011, 11:11 PM
It's on sale at ncix for $84.99 - $45 mir. Great price at $39.99 after mir.
You can also get a wireless g adapter for $5.00 more.
There's also a chance you'll get a chip that can bitstream HD audio as well. I purchased a unit in mid Dec/10 and it has the 1073DD C+ chip.
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=44928&vpn=PCMPBO25&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1285
ppl4golf
Feb 2nd, 2011, 11:24 PM
It's on sale at ncix for $84.99 - $45 mir. Great price at $39.99 after mir.
You can also get a wireless g adapter for $5.00 more.
There's also a chance you'll get a chip that can bitstream HD audio as well. I purchased a unit in mid Dec/10 and it has the 1073DD C+ chip.
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=44928&vpn=PCMPBO25&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1285
audit13,
So did you get HD bitstreaming to work ?
Mine says 1073DD Demo...does it mean I am SOL ??
Totoriko
Feb 2nd, 2011, 11:30 PM
Does anyone know if Patriot will allow a second MIR on the PatriotBox? I did one last year (not with the current MIR deal) and am considering buying a second box
audit13
Feb 2nd, 2011, 11:35 PM
audit13,
So did you get HD bitstreaming to work ?
Mine says 1073DD Demo...does it mean I am SOL ??
Under official PBO firmware 61r2, my HW is RTD1073-Demo
Under acrbo r4824, the board (i.e. chip) is identified as 1073DD C+.
Under acrbo r4824, I was able to select passthrough on hdmi and spdif but I could not playback any HD audio streams, not even the core stream from DTS-HD. Multichannel DD/DTS and stereo DD were fine.
I'm in the process of trying to unbrick my PBO so I'll report back as soon as I am able to fix it.
ASharp
Feb 3rd, 2011, 12:07 AM
Does anyone know if Patriot will allow a second MIR on the PatriotBox? I did one last year (not with the current MIR deal) and am considering buying a second box
The limitations for MIRs are one MIR per household per MIR period. If you sent one last year and you're sending one this year (completely different MIR period) then it will be fine. Heck, if you sent one for a unit you bought in January and now you bought another one in February, you could send another one if you wanted to.
RastaManMax
Feb 3rd, 2011, 01:08 AM
Just ordered this along with the G card for $45 (after MIR).
Gotta do a bit of reading on this thread as to the easiest to use software for it.
bestjsg
Feb 3rd, 2011, 01:35 AM
thanks...just ordered one now, picking up in First Markham store saved the $ 4.99 shipping too...now need to read all these threads about firmwares etc...also ordered the $ 5 wifi adapter with it..
alibaba011
Feb 3rd, 2011, 03:24 AM
just bought one from NCIX at $40 after MIR. Thanks OP
audit13
Feb 3rd, 2011, 11:53 AM
audit13,
So did you get HD bitstreaming to work ?
Mine says 1073DD Demo...does it mean I am SOL ??
Hi ppl4golf, I was able to get HD bitstreaming to work after running into firware upgrade problems on my PBO.
I tried re-flashing with acrbo 4824 from official firmware p02, p05, and 61r2. Acrbo allowed me to select passthrough each time but there was no audio signal when I select DTS-HD or TrueHD. Lossy multichannel DD and DTS worked fine as did Stereo. Maybe my receiver is incompatible with the bitstreaming under acrbo 4824? I'm not sure. I was going to try it with my Onkyo receiver but it's packed away at them moment and didn't want to go through the hassle of dismantling my ht.
I didn't want to try medebo 5249 because this is the firmware that caused my PBO to crash. I decided to re-download the rar file and upgrade my PBO from official p02. The upgrade worked and I my receiver now displays TrueHD or DTS-HD MSTR from my PBO when I select Passthrough Multi CH.
In medebo 5249's system info, Software is V4, Boot is 0000.0202.0027, and Board is 1073DD C+.
My next project to is to test TruehHD and DTS-HD from an mkv container.
Hope this helps.
derdev
Feb 3rd, 2011, 12:10 PM
I bought two, one for me one for parents.
(I bought both, but the households that use them are different)
The notice about the rebate says they will reimburse only for one.
Is there any way to solve this?
just_For_ipod
Feb 3rd, 2011, 12:11 PM
Just ordered this along with the G card for $45 (after MIR).
Gotta do a bit of reading on this thread as to the easiest to use software for it.
Also ordered one, was eying the rebate from Patriots website the other day and hoped someone would have it on sale. That was pretty quick for NCIX to have it on sale.
I didn't get the G card though, I figured it'd be too slow for transferring or streaming files and I'll be upgrading my home network to wireless within the year anyways.
Now I need to find a wireless N adapter and wireless N router on sale. :lol:
audit13
Feb 3rd, 2011, 12:11 PM
I bought two, one for me one for parents.
(I bought both, but the households that use them are different)
The notice about the rebate says they will reimburse only for one.
Is there any way to solve this?
Have the rebate cheque sent to different names and addresses to be safe.
audit13
Feb 3rd, 2011, 12:14 PM
Just ordered this along with the G card for $45 (after MIR).
Gotta do a bit of reading on this thread as to the easiest to use software for it.
I like the acrbo 4824 interface the best but the medebo 5829 bitstreams HD audio on mine:)
nosnoop
Feb 3rd, 2011, 01:19 PM
Have the rebate cheque sent to different names and addresses to be safe.
Would this work if two PBOs are on the same receipt? It may not.
It would be best if one pays the two PBOs separately, have two receipts, and each submitted with different names and addresses.
fulrach
Feb 3rd, 2011, 01:29 PM
damn it! I just spent the last hr trying to get one from NCIX then tigerdirect!
NCIX is sold out btw for the 'special' sale so it's back up to $129 or whatever on their site and in store (yes I called the stores in the GTA as well) supposedly it was limited to just 300 units and they were sold out before noon.
Ended up purchasing from Tigerdirect online for $94.97... came up to $115.48 after taxes and shipping then there's the $45 MIR so roughly $70 after all is said and done... not too bad i guess, heh
let's see if this thing is as good as you RFD'rs say it is! :)
audit13
Feb 3rd, 2011, 01:46 PM
damn it! I just spent the last hr trying to get one from NCIX then tigerdirect!
NCIX is sold out btw for the 'special' sale so it's back up to $129 or whatever on their site and in store (yes I called the stores in the GTA as well) supposedly it was limited to just 300 units and they were sold out before noon.
Ended up purchasing from Tigerdirect online for $94.97... came up to $115.48 after taxes and shipping then there's the $45 MIR so roughly $70 after all is said and done... not too bad i guess, heh
let's see if this thing is as good as you RFD'rs say it is! :)
Anyone trying to PM with Infonec @ $99.99? The Markham warehouse shows stock. I may have to order from Newegg.com for $44.99 after $45 mir to get one for a friend. Given current exchange rates and free shipping from Newegg.com, it works out to be about the same price as NCIX's price of $39.99 after mir.
http://infonec.com/site/main.php?module=detail&id=450879
jpleau
Feb 3rd, 2011, 01:49 PM
Anyone trying to PM with Infonec @ $99.99? The Markham warehouse shows stock. I may have to order from Newegg.com for $44.99 after $45 mir to get one for a friend. Given current exchange rates and free shipping from Newegg.com, it works out to be about the same price as NCIX's price of $39.99 after mir.
http://infonec.com/site/main.php?module=detail&id=450879
Isn't the free shipping only available to US customers? newegg.ca is charging almost $12 shipping
FYI, NCIX deal looks to be on still, just went to the website now
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=44928&vpn=PCMPBO25&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1285
audit13
Feb 3rd, 2011, 01:55 PM
Isn't the free shipping only available to US customers? newegg.ca is charging almost $12 shipping
FYI, NCIX deal looks to be on still, just went to the website now
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=44928&vpn=PCMPBO25&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1285
This is true. I'm actually going to have it shipped to a friend's place in the US.
Edit: Just tried bitstreaming HD audio from the PBO to my receiver. With "Saving Private Ryan", my receiver displayed DTS-HD MSTR. With "Stone", my receiver displayed Dolby True HD.
nosnoop
Feb 3rd, 2011, 02:56 PM
FYI, NCIX deal looks to be on still, just went to the website now
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=44928&vpn=PCMPBO25&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1285
Wait until you click on "Add to shopping cart", you'd get a pop up saying that it is sold out.
ppl4golf
Feb 3rd, 2011, 05:27 PM
Hi ppl4golf, I was able to get HD bitstreaming to work after running into firware upgrade problems on my PBO.
I tried re-flashing with acrbo 4824 from official firmware p02, p05, and 61r2. Acrbo allowed me to select passthrough each time but there was no audio signal when I select DTS-HD or TrueHD. Lossy multichannel DD and DTS worked fine as did Stereo. Maybe my receiver is incompatible with the bitstreaming under acrbo 4824? I'm not sure. I was going to try it with my Onkyo receiver but it's packed away at them moment and didn't want to go through the hassle of dismantling my ht.
I didn't want to try medebo 5249 because this is the firmware that caused my PBO to crash. I decided to re-download the rar file and upgrade my PBO from official p02. The upgrade worked and I my receiver now displays TrueHD or DTS-HD MSTR from my PBO when I select Passthrough Multi CH.
In medebo 5249's system info, Software is V4, Boot is 0000.0202.0027, and Board is 1073DD C+.
My next project to is to test TruehHD and DTS-HD from an mkv container.
Hope this helps.
Wow thanks!
I'll do medebo 5249 from P02 then.
I really don't give a hoot about the picture wall, info or whatever. If I really want to, I can use my Android LOL
I don't mind having the ability to bitstream sound.
audit13
Feb 3rd, 2011, 05:47 PM
Wow thanks!
I'll do medebo 5249 from P02 then.
I really don't give a hoot about the picture wall, info or whatever. If I really want to, I can use my Android LOL
I don't mind having the ability to bitstream sound.
I'm not concerned about the video wall and video information either. In fact, my PBO isn't even connected to the Internet. I just wanted it to bitstream HD audio and now I see that it can do it either from BDMV folders or mkv files.
Hopefully, you have a 1073DD C+ chip.
dukeland
Feb 3rd, 2011, 06:49 PM
new MIR is out, $45 now and is good till Feb 14th.
New price after price match is $47!
To get $47, pm amazon.ca $92 (http://www.amazon.ca/Patriot-Memory-Office-High-Definition-PCMPBO25/dp/B002Q4U9PY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1296673338&sr=8-1)
I successfully got Memory Express to PM Amazon.ca @$92.17. They also threw in free shipping despite the order being below $99. With no Env Fee, their deal comes out cheaper than NCIX $84.99+4.99 shipping +2.75 Env Fee. Overall the total was $104.15 (ME) v/s 104.78 (NCIX). A difference of $0.63:).
Thanks jpleau!
heinz
Feb 3rd, 2011, 07:00 PM
tigerdirect has it on sale again
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5376926&Sku=P33-8002 P
Price: $89.97
Less Rebate: - $45.00
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Final Price: $44.97*
devo686
Feb 3rd, 2011, 07:54 PM
just got my 2 MIR cheques in the mail today from my purchase of 2 PBOs in Oct/Nov. It worked because I bought 1 from NCIX with a $35 MIR and 1 from ME with a $45 MIR. 2 different MIRs and 2 different sellers is the way to go if you want 2 PBOs!!!!!
now I have some poker money for tonight!!!
audit13
Feb 3rd, 2011, 08:26 PM
tigerdirect has it on sale again
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5376926&Sku=P33-8002 P
Price: $89.97
Less Rebate: - $45.00
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Final Price: $44.97*
Good price but shipping for me is $12.63:( Called the Etobicoke store and they don't have it in stock.
just_For_ipod
Feb 3rd, 2011, 08:43 PM
I successfully got Memory Express to PM Amazon.ca @$92.17. They also threw in free shipping despite the order being below $99. With no Env Fee, their deal comes out cheaper than NCIX $84.99+4.99 shipping +2.75 Env Fee. Overall the total was $104.15 (ME) v/s 104.78 (NCIX). A difference of $0.63:).
Thanks jpleau!
I order from NCIX and opted for pickup which came to only $99.15. A savings of $(104.15-99.15) :lol:
ppl4golf
Feb 3rd, 2011, 10:19 PM
I'm not concerned about the video wall and video information either. In fact, my PBO isn't even connected to the Internet. I just wanted it to bitstream HD audio and now I see that it can do it either from BDMV folders or mkv files.
Hopefully, you have a 1073DD C+ chip.
I'll try it tonight.
I feel your elation as you've been trying pretty hard to do HD audio.
As it turns out, the Seagate FAT+ was a dud support-wise. The only good thing is it does component beautifully onto my SD projector that can take 720p component/VGA.
dukeland
Feb 3rd, 2011, 10:45 PM
I order from NCIX and opted for pickup which came to only $99.15. A savings of $(104.15-99.15) :lol:
For those who missed out on NCIX sale, Memory Express has reduced its price to $84.99, now $40 after rebate. http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX26439%28ME%29.aspx. Limited quantities.
They readily adjusted my price which with taxes + free UPS shipping is $96.04. No hassles. Beat that !! :twisted: ;)
audit13
Feb 3rd, 2011, 10:50 PM
I'll try it tonight.
I feel your elation as you've been trying pretty hard to do HD audio.
As it turns out, the Seagate FAT+ was a dud support-wise. The only good thing is it does component beautifully onto my SD projector that can take 720p component/VGA.
Yeah, it feels great to know that I no longer need my htpc to playback my BD rips. It uses less power, boots up fast, and movies load fast. Now if only the PBO could make my coffee in the morning:)
That not good news for me with respect to the FAT+ because I ordered one from Newegg.com when it was on sale for $39.99. I'll be picking it up from my friend's place in 2 weeks. Its not good at 1080p playback with BDMV folders and mkv files? I don't care about HD audio on the FAT+ since it will be connected directly to an hdtv. The FAT+ uses the same Realtek chip but it looks like there is no third-party firmware. Bummer:(
ppl4golf
Feb 4th, 2011, 12:26 AM
Yeah, it feels great to know that I no longer need my htpc to playback my BD rips. It uses less power, boots up fast, and movies load fast. Now if only the PBO could make my coffee in the morning:)
That not good news for me with respect to the FAT+ because I ordered one from Newegg.com when it was on sale for $39.99. I'll be picking it up from my friend's place in 2 weeks. Its not good at 1080p playback with BDMV folders and mkv files? I don't care about HD audio on the FAT+ since it will be connected directly to an hdtv. The FAT+ uses the same Realtek chip but it looks like there is no third-party firmware. Bummer:(
My hardware version is 1073DD without the C+
Am I SOL without the C+ ?
I do like the mede8er interface otherwise with the exception some remote buttons functions are slightly different although I can get used to it quickly.
aasoror
Feb 4th, 2011, 12:30 AM
Would this work if two PBOs are on the same receipt? It may not.
Nope it wont.
My hardware version is 1073DD without the C+
Am I SOL without the C+ ?
Yes you are.
audit13
Feb 4th, 2011, 12:37 AM
My hardware version is 1073DD without the C+
Am I SOL without the C+ ?
I do like the mede8er interface otherwise with the exception some remote buttons functions are slightly different although I can get used to it quickly.
You got the hardware version from the medebo system info screen? If that's the case, you can still get HD audio if you're willing to convert the lossless soundtracks to lpcm.
ppl4golf
Feb 4th, 2011, 12:48 AM
You got the hardware version from the medebo system info screen? If that's the case, you can still get HD audio if you're willing to convert the lossless soundtracks to lpcm.
Nah...LOL
I tried and it's only doing core but the sound quality is really good.
Just a headsup, it did not recognize the TrueHD of a MKV I made using Ant Bully which has both DD+ and TrueHD.
fieldside
Feb 4th, 2011, 01:31 AM
For those who missed out on NCIX sale, Memory Express has reduced its price to $84.99, now $40 after rebate. http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX26439%28ME%29.aspx. Limited quantities.
They readily adjusted my price which with taxes + free UPS shipping is $96.04. No hassles. Beat that !! :twisted: ;)
Not anymore! It is now 64.99 after MIR.
nosnoop
Feb 4th, 2011, 01:39 AM
In medebo 5249's system info, Software is V4, Boot is 0000.0202.0027, and Board is 1073DD C+.
[Sigh] Bought two recently from NCIX, one just yesterday, both do not have the C+ :(
What is the number range of your serial number?
The last 4 digits of the serial numbers of mine are below 2000.
aasoror
Feb 4th, 2011, 02:24 AM
[Sigh] Bought two recently from NCIX, one just yesterday, both do not have the C+ :(
What is the number range of your serial number?
The last 4 digits of the serial numbers of mine are below 2000.
I think the most retailer moving stock is ME.
audit13, where did you get your 1073DD+ PBO ?
audit13
Feb 4th, 2011, 09:41 AM
Nah...LOL
I tried and it's only doing core but the sound quality is really good.
Just a headsup, it did not recognize the TrueHD of a MKV I made using Ant Bully which has both DD+ and TrueHD.
Unfortunately, PBO's official firmware doesn't support bitstreaming. You need to use medebo or acrbo to get bistreaming and to get the complete model # for the Realtek chip.
I created an mkv of "Stone" with only a TrueHD soundtrack and it played back fine with medebo and my avr displayed Dolby TrueHD.
[Sigh] Bought two recently from NCIX, one just yesterday, both do not have the C+ :(
What is the number range of your serial number?
The last 4 digits of the serial numbers of mine are below 2000.
Did you use medebo or acrbo to check your chip? Did yours come in a box that said PBO Core on the outside?
I think the most retailer moving stock is ME.
audit13, where did you get your 1073DD+ PBO ?
I got one PBO Core from NCIX's First Markham Place around mid-November, 2010 which had the $35 mir. The second PBO Core came from NCIX's Markham warehouse around mid-December, 2010 which had the $45 mir.
ppl4golf
Feb 4th, 2011, 10:06 AM
[Sigh] Bought two recently from NCIX, one just yesterday, both do not have the C+ :(
What is the number range of your serial number?
The last 4 digits of the serial numbers of mine are below 2000.
I am also 0/2 here :(:(:)
Unfortunately, PBO's official firmware doesn't support bitstreaming. You need to use medebo or acrbo to get bistreaming and to get the complete model # for the Realtek chip.
I created an mkv of "Stone" with only a TrueHD soundtrack and it played back fine with medebo and my avr displayed Dolby TrueHD.
Did you use medebo or acrbo to check your chip? Did yours come in a box that said PBO Core on the outside?
I got one PBO Core from NCIX's First Markham Place around mid-November, 2010 which had the $35 mir. The second PBO Core came from NCIX's Markham warehouse around mid-December, 2010 which had the $45 mir.
Do you mean the new packaging that says PBO Core is the one with Vitamin C+ ??
szetolf
Feb 4th, 2011, 10:32 AM
tigerdirect has it on sale again
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5376926&Sku=P33-8002 P
Price: $89.97
Less Rebate: - $45.00
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Final Price: $44.97*
Good price but shipping for me is $12.63:( Called the Etobicoke store and they don't have it in stock.
does NCIX pm tigerdirect?
If so, its a tempting offer....
audit13
Feb 4th, 2011, 10:59 AM
I am also 0/2 here :(:(:)
Do you mean the new packaging that says PBO Core is the one with Vitamin C+ ??
I purchased 2 of the PBO Core from NCIX and they both had the new packaging.
Top:
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8272/img1370p.th.jpg (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/img1370p.jpg/)
Side:
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4930/img1369tq.th.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/img1369tq.jpg/)
does NCIX pm tigerdirect?
If so, its a tempting offer....
NCIX has been hit and miss recently with PMs. All you can do is try.
ppl4golf
Feb 4th, 2011, 11:38 AM
I purchased 2 of the PBO Core from NCIX and they both had the new packaging.
Top:
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8272/img1370p.th.jpg (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/img1370p.jpg/)
Side:
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4930/img1369tq.th.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/img1369tq.jpg/)
NCIX has been hit and miss recently with PMs. All you can do is try.
Arrrgh.
My buddy got a PBO core and I'll update for him soon. Funny thing is he would have no clue otherwise LOL. I think the MEBO is the best firmware so far from playback POV.
I had issue using the Bitstream SPDIF in the PBO Official BUT the MEBO seemed to be seamless both bitstreaming and downmixing without needing to switch.
BTW, any chance you can test the improperly encoded MKV bird scene from Planet Earth that ordinary PBOs failed ??
Menace
Feb 4th, 2011, 11:41 AM
The deal seems to be dead. I wouldn't mine pick up a 2nd one to retire the original WDTV for $40.
audit13
Feb 4th, 2011, 12:07 PM
Arrrgh.
My buddy got a PBO core and I'll update for him soon. Funny thing is he would have no clue otherwise LOL. I think the MEBO is the best firmware so far from playback POV.
I had issue using the Bitstream SPDIF in the PBO Official BUT the MEBO seemed to be seamless both bitstreaming and downmixing without needing to switch.
BTW, any chance you can test the improperly encoded MKV bird scene from Planet Earth that ordinary PBOs failed ??
I have the 4-disc version of PE but have never converted it to mkv.
nosnoop
Feb 4th, 2011, 12:12 PM
Did you use medebo or acrbo to check your chip? Did yours come in a box that said PBO Core on the outside?
I got one PBO Core from NCIX's First Markham Place around mid-November, 2010 which had the $35 mir. The second PBO Core came from NCIX's Markham warehouse around mid-December, 2010 which had the $45 mir.
I used MedeBO to check System Info; and yes, it says PBO Core on the outside, the new packaging.
And I bought both more recent than yours from NCIX First Markham Place!
audit13
Feb 4th, 2011, 12:13 PM
I used MedeBO to check System Info; and yes, it says PBO Core on the outside, the new packaging.
And I bought both more recent than yours from NCIX First Markham Place!
Damn, that sucks. Does the unit itself also say PBO Core on the side?
nosnoop
Feb 4th, 2011, 12:36 PM
Damn, that sucks. Does the unit itself also say PBO Core on the side?
I don't think so, I have not noticed. I would have to go home and check.
just_For_ipod
Feb 4th, 2011, 01:11 PM
Is there a difference between the PBO and PBO Core? From what I read online only the packaging and firmware has changed. But I keep hearing some of you guys talk about some better version of the chip (C+) in the PBO/PBO Core which enables bitstreaming or something like that.
Where would I likely to find one with the better chip?
I order from NCIX and will be picking it up from the Scarborough location at Midland and Finch.
ppl4golf
Feb 4th, 2011, 01:13 PM
I have the 4-disc version of PE but have never converted it to mkv.
Download the link in the DD C+ thread in aasoror's site and try that video.
audit13
Feb 4th, 2011, 02:24 PM
Is there a difference between the PBO and PBO Core? From what I read online only the packaging and firmware has changed. But I keep hearing some of you guys talk about some better version of the chip (C+) in the PBO/PBO Core which enables bitstreaming or something like that.
Where would I likely to find one with the better chip?
I order from NCIX and will be picking it up from the Scarborough location at Midland and Finch.
The PBO has been re-branded to PBO Core with a 2-year warranty.
The C+ chip will bitstream HD audio (DTS-HD and True HD) to a receiver for decoding by the receiver.
Looks like several people that purchased the PBO are not getting the C+ chip.
padenom
Feb 4th, 2011, 02:44 PM
What would be extra that I would get by buying a PBO if I my blu-ray can access my DLNA server over the network and play all types of audio/video files that I have there? It seems it won't give me many extra features than what I already have.
aasoror
Feb 4th, 2011, 02:49 PM
What would be extra that I would get by buying a PBO if I my blu-ray can access my DLNA server over the network and play all types of audio/video files that I have there? It seems it won't give me many extra features than what I already have.
Beside a smaller footprint, jukeboxes, direct online access and the on-the-go usage (with the ability to add an internal HDD) no it wont give you any extra features.
audit13
Feb 4th, 2011, 02:53 PM
Beside a smaller footprint, jukeboxes, direct online access and the on-the-go usage (with the ability to add an internal HDD) no it wont give you any extra features.
Don't forget bistreaming HD audio if you get a PBO with a C+ chip.
rozsalyib
Feb 4th, 2011, 03:40 PM
Is there a way to find out from the S/N of the PBO if it has C+ chip?
I'm not sure if somebody already asked this, this thread is to big to read through the 200 pages.
audit13
Feb 4th, 2011, 03:44 PM
Is there a way to find out from the S/N of the PBO if it has C+ chip?
I'm not sure if somebody already asked this, this thread is to big to read through the 200 pages.
I don't think you can tell from the s/n because no one seems to know exactly when Patriot started incorporation the C+ chip.
People have to remember that the C+ is only important if you have content with DTS-HD or TrueHD soundtracks. These days, even lossy soundtracks are encoded at 640 kps which is pretty good. It's easier to hear the difference on higher-end systems.
nosnoop
Feb 4th, 2011, 03:57 PM
I don't think you can tell from the s/n because no one seems to know exactly when Patriot started incorporation the C+ chip.
But can you tell us what is the rough number range of the last 4 digits of your serial number?
You don't need to give us the exact number if you don't feel comfortable, just say between 2500 to 2600 or something like that would be fine.
My serial numbers ending with 191x & 198x do not have the C+ chip.
kiasu
Feb 4th, 2011, 04:00 PM
i got one yesterday from NCIX, so how to check whether it's C+ or not
audit13
Feb 4th, 2011, 04:06 PM
But can you tell us what is the rough number range of the last 4 digits of your serial number?
You don't need to give us the exact number if you don't feel comfortable, just say between 2500 to 2600 or something like that would be fine.
My serial numbers ending with 191x & 198x do not have the C+ chip.
The last 4 digits on one of the units is 2998. I'm not sure about the other one because I gave that one to my friend.
audit13
Feb 4th, 2011, 04:27 PM
i got one yesterday from NCIX, so how to check whether it's C+ or not
You would need to install acrbo or medebo and look under system info to be sure. Does it say PBO Core on the sides?
...BTW, any chance you can test the improperly encoded MKV bird scene from Planet Earth that ordinary PBOs failed ??
The clip does not play properly. The video becomes pixelated, stops, continues, pixelates again.
dukeland
Feb 4th, 2011, 07:42 PM
Not anymore! It is now 64.99 after MIR.
Seems that few more units are available. Price is back down to $39.99 after MIR
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX26439%28ME%29.aspx
audit13
Feb 4th, 2011, 08:27 PM
Seems that few more units are available. Price is back down to $39.99 after MIR
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX26439%28ME%29.aspx
Looks like it's oos online. I'm tempted to buy one but I want the C+ chip and it looks like several people are getting the PBO Core without it.
just_For_ipod
Feb 4th, 2011, 11:49 PM
Just picked it up from NCIX and it has the new PBO Core packaging.
I played around with it using the Wireless feature and streaming was okay for smaller and lower quality files. When I tried to stream from my laptop using wireless(e.g. both the PBO and my laptop were connecting to my router wirelessly) I guess my router couldn't really handle it because it was noticeably lagging(not the video itself but rather the interface for some reason, like trying to change the subtitles, or audio, etc). But when I connected my laptop to ethernet while still using wireless for my PBO it was fine. Higher bitrate files however didn't work too well.
Interesting thing I found was that when I disconnected my laptop from the network while I was streaming video onto my PBO, the PBO froze, no inputs from the remote were recognized. However, as soon as I reconnected my laptop to the network, the PBO detected it and continued the video and I was able to use the remote again.
Compliments:
I was glad that it came with an HDMI cable out of the box which is like a $5 value right there.
Wireless streaming from my computer works well.
So far my complaints are:
-The remote felt kind of cheaply made (buttons were slanted and didn't feel responsive sometimes).
-The wire for the AC adapter is like super thin and feels like it will snap if you touch it. I guess it's for portability, but I still would have preferred a thicker/higher quality wire.
-the patriot wireless G adapter is too wide and doesn't fit very well into the back of the PBO, I mean, if patriot is going to make a "PBO compatible" wireless adapter, at least make it fit. I mean, I COULD just plug it into the front, but then it's ugly sticking out like that.
-the GUI is terrible for scrolling through a folder of files.
Edit:So I found there was a file that wasn't playable and I don't know why.
It's an MKV file with 3 audio tracks, the first 2 play fine, but the third audio track was at first was very jittery and caused the video to also jitter, but then later when I tried the file again, the video played fine but there was no audio at all.
Here is the detail of the audio track
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : HE-AAC / LC
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 1h 44mn
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 96.0 KHz / 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Anyone have any ideas?
The first and second track play fine, here is the info.
Audio track 1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 44mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 150ms
Stream size : 288 MiB (6%)
Audio track 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : HE-AAC / LC
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 1h 44mn
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 96.0 KHz / 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
From what I can see, my PBO doesn't like 6 channel AAC audio?
Well, it doesn't seem to like AAC files at all since I converted some files into .AAC and the PBO tells me it's an invalid format. Yet track 2 of my video worked....weird.
bestjsg
Feb 5th, 2011, 02:44 AM
Hi All, I did some researches about custom firmwares etc, and i don't really want to 'hack' the box or anything, I see with this PBO I got yesterday seems to have the latest firmwares, bootcode etc, is there a way to watch Youtube directly from one of the IMS , like is there a link/line that I can enter from the on screen keyboard and be able to watch youtube ?
bunyan69
Feb 5th, 2011, 09:43 AM
Does anyone have a definitive way of determining if the PBO has the new C+ chip yet?
audit13
Feb 5th, 2011, 09:48 AM
Does anyone have a definitive way of determining if the PBO has the new C+ chip yet?
Load medebo or acrbo and look under system info. Currently, I know of no other way. Also, if you want to bitstream HD audio, the official PBO firmware can't do it, it will only pass core audio via hdmi.
bunyan69
Feb 5th, 2011, 10:11 AM
I am looking to buy one and was hoping that there is a way to tell by serial number or some other way before purchasing
audit13
Feb 5th, 2011, 10:14 AM
I am looking to buy one and was hoping that there is a way to tell by serial number or some other way before purchasing
I'm not sure there is a way to tell from the packaging or serial number. If you're not interested in bitstreaming HD audio to a receiver or you have no content with HD tracks, it doesn't matter whether you do or do not have the C+ chip.
bunyan69
Feb 5th, 2011, 10:30 AM
Thanks for the input guys. I am looking for HD audio so I think I'll just wait until we find a way to know for sure
audit13
Feb 5th, 2011, 11:00 AM
Thanks for the input guys. I am looking for HD audio so I think I'll just wait until we find a way to know for sure
Based on what I have read and seen, you increase the chance of getting a C+ chip by looking for the PBO Core packaging and a serial # whose last 4 digits is 3000 or higher. I have a PBO core and the last 4 digits of its serial # is 2998.
I'm going to try and get another one for a friend.
bunyan69
Feb 5th, 2011, 11:06 AM
thanks audit13
audit13
Feb 5th, 2011, 11:08 AM
thanks audit13
You're very welcome. Good luck to all of us in our search for the perfect PBO Core:)
nosnoop
Feb 5th, 2011, 11:49 AM
I am looking to buy one and was hoping that there is a way to tell by serial number or some other way before purchasing
Judging from my PBO's and audit13's serial numbers, I would guess that the last 4 digits of the serial number below 2000 would be old chip, and anything above 3000 could be new chip.
That's just my speculation though, need more people with the new chip to confirm or disprove this.
Edit: Oops, looks like I just repeated what audit13 posted.
dealz4all
Feb 5th, 2011, 01:54 PM
Can anybody confirm if PBO
1. Plays high bitrate blu ray ISOs without stuttering
2. Displays blu ray menus
3.Can switch resolutions on the fly
Currently I have WDTV live and it stutters when playing blu rays with bit rate more than 40Mb/s
audit13
Feb 5th, 2011, 03:25 PM
Can anybody confirm if PBO
1. Plays high bitrate blu ray ISOs without stuttering
2. Displays blu ray menus
3.Can switch resolutions on the fly
Currently I have WDTV live and it stutters when playing blu rays with bit rate more than 40Mb/s
The PBO can't play BD menus. As far as I know, there are no media players that play BD menus from an iso or BDMV format.
When you WDTV stutters, are you playing over a network and a usb drive? Which movies are you referring to that has such a high bit rate for the video portion? I'd like to try it out on my PBO. I've played a 35gb version of Saving Private Ryan with no problems.
just_For_ipod
Feb 5th, 2011, 03:25 PM
Can anybody confirm if PBO
1. Plays high bitrate blu ray ISOs without stuttering
2. Displays blu ray menus
3.Can switch resolutions on the fly
Currently I have WDTV live and it stutters when playing blu rays with bit rate more than 40Mb/s
The PBO does not display menus for ISO files, bluray included.
Edit: Ooops, I meant PBO does not display menus included in bluray ISO files.
aasoror
Feb 5th, 2011, 03:36 PM
The PBO does not display menus for ISO files, bluray included.
PBO displays DVD ISOs menus just fine. Its BR menus that is not displayable.
Can anybody confirm if PBO
1. Plays high bitrate blu ray ISOs without stuttering
2. Displays blu ray menus
3.Can switch resolutions on the fly
Currently I have WDTV live and it stutters when playing blu rays with bit rate more than 40Mb/s
1. a BR ISO is a BR ISO (most of the time), and they play just fine over USB and network too depending on your setup, are you sure you are not talking about MKV rips ?!
2. no go for BR menus.
3. yes there is a dedicated remote control button to cycle between different resolutions.
bunyan69
Feb 5th, 2011, 03:36 PM
Judging from my PBO's and audit13's serial numbers, I would guess that the last 4 digits of the serial number below 2000 would be old chip, and anything above 3000 could be new chip.
That's just my speculation though, need more people with the new chip to confirm or disprove this.
Edit: Oops, looks like I just repeated what audit13 posted.
Found some with last 4 digits in the 2600 range.....any guesses?
aasoror
Feb 5th, 2011, 03:42 PM
Found some with last 4 digits in the 2600 range.....any guesses?
No guess would conclusive now, there is only 3 reports between the hundreds of units sold just recently.
Even the new packaging isn't a good enough indicator.
kiasu
Feb 5th, 2011, 03:46 PM
Judging from my PBO's and audit13's serial numbers, I would guess that the last 4 digits of the serial number below 2000 would be old chip, and anything above 3000 could be new chip.
That's just my speculation though, need more people with the new chip to confirm or disprove this.
Edit: Oops, looks like I just repeated what audit13 posted.
there r 2 SN on box..one is like sticker at the bottom of the box with "1012MPBOXXXX" or another one in front which show SKU # and below "ITEM 4492819422X XXX"
which one are you looking at?
bunyan69
Feb 5th, 2011, 03:54 PM
there r 2 SN on box..one is like sticker at the bottom of the box with "1012MPBOXXXX" or another one in front which show SKU # and below "ITEM 4492819422X XXX"
which one are you looking at?
The one with with "1012MPBOXXXX"
david_lin911
Feb 5th, 2011, 04:01 PM
How can I check for the version of the chip in the easiest way possible?
My serial ends with PBO3504.
Rick007
Feb 5th, 2011, 04:05 PM
you increase the chance of getting a C+ chip by looking for the PBO Core packaging and a serial # whose last 4 digits is 3000 or higher.
I purchased mine from Tiger Direct in early December and I can't remember the cardboard box now.
The sticker on the circuit board simply says 1073DD, but the Medebo interface says 1073DD C+. The serial number is 1007MPBO12xx (from the sticker on the bottom of the case, and on the circuit board). The sides of the case have the Box Office logo, and the words "Box Office".
So if that sticker is the serial number, then my box has a lower serial number than others who don't have the C+ chip.
just_For_ipod
Feb 5th, 2011, 04:09 PM
How can I check for the version of the chip in the easiest way possible?
My serial ends with PBO3504.
Question has been answered multiple times already. There is currently no clear way to check for the newer version by serial number.
Load medebo or acrbo and look under system info. Currently, I know of no other way. Also, if you want to bitstream HD audio, the official PBO firmware can't do it, it will only pass core audio via hdmi.
audit13
Feb 5th, 2011, 04:16 PM
I purchased mine from Tiger Direct in early December and I can't remember the cardboard box now.
The sticker on the circuit board simply says 1073DD, but the Medebo interface says 1073DD C+. The serial number is 1007MPBO12xx (from the sticker on the bottom of the case, and on the circuit board). The sides of the case have the Box Office logo, and the words "Box Office".
So if that sticker is the serial number, then my box has a lower serial number than others who don't have the C+ chip.
Congratulations on you good firtune in the C+ lottery. You should be able to bitstream HD audio (TrueHD and DTS-HD) to a processor/receiver for decoding. Did you get a chance to est bitstreaming?
just_For_ipod
Feb 5th, 2011, 04:17 PM
I purchased mine from Tiger Direct in early December and I can't remember the cardboard box now.
The sticker on the circuit board simply says 1073DD, but the Medebo interface says 1073DD C+. The serial number is 1007MPBO12xx (from the sticker on the bottom of the case, and on the circuit board). The sides of the case have the Box Office logo, and the words "Box Office".
So if that sticker is the serial number, then my box has a lower serial number than others who don't have the C+ chip.
My guess is that PM had mutliple assembly lines, so at one point they were producing both boxes with the old chip and the new chip. Which is why there might be a mix of new and old chips for a given range or serial numbers.
Or PBO ordered new chips which arrived first before some of their older chips.
Or PBO is using both new and old chips because the supplier can't supply enough of one type of chip.
The manufacturing process isn't as clear cut as you think and there likely isn't a specific serial number cut off for the new chip.
kiasu
Feb 5th, 2011, 04:27 PM
The one with with "1012MPBOXXXX"
thx but mine is 1997....mean old chips? should i exchange?
Rick007
Feb 5th, 2011, 04:32 PM
The one with with "1012MPBOXXXX"
And yet my serial is 1007MPBO12xx (with C+) . Maybe we need to compare the beginning of the serial number and not the last four digits.
aasoror
Feb 5th, 2011, 04:56 PM
And yet my serial is 1007MPBO12xx (with C+) . Maybe we need to compare the beginning of the serial number and not the last four digits.
I still think (like many others) it wont be conclusive.
Apparently new chips are interleaved with the older one.
This wont stabilize until all the current stock is depleted, I would say stay with the retailers where stock is moving fast and wish for the best (I'd personally think no one is moving stock as fast as Memory Express)
jpleau
Feb 5th, 2011, 05:21 PM
I still think (like many others) it wont be conclusive.
Apparently new chips are interleaved with the older one.
+1
I bought a PBO (old packaging, naming) in November from NCIX and it has the c+ chipset, but the one I just bought in January (new packaging, naming) is the older chip. All of this is according to the system info on medeBO firmware. My guess is that the plant where they are being manufactured didn't put the boards in the cases in any order, so until the manufacturing plant has depleted all their old boards there's no guarantee. And unless someone here works there and can tell us when that happens, it's no use guessing when it will happen :)
audit13
Feb 5th, 2011, 05:25 PM
+1
I bought a PBO (old packaging, naming) in November from NCIX and it has the c+ chipset, but the one I just bought in January (new packaging, naming) is the older chip. All of this is according to the system info on medeBO firmware. My guess is that the plant where they are being manufactured didn't put the boards in the cases in any order, so until the manufacturing plant has depleted all their old boards there's no guarantee. And unless someone here works there and can tell us when that happens, it's no use guessing when it will happen :)
+1 again. I know I've posted several messages on here asking about the C+ chip and my desire (alright, obsession) to bitstream HD audio. I was even content with remuxing the video with lpcm audio in order to feed HD audio to my receiver. To my ears, decoded lpcm and DTS-HD/TrueHD sound the same.
dealz4all
Feb 5th, 2011, 11:53 PM
The PBO can't play BD menus. As far as I know, there are no media players that play BD menus from an iso or BDMV format.
When you WDTV stutters, are you playing over a network and a usb drive? Which movies are you referring to that has such a high bit rate for the video portion? I'd like to try it out on my PBO. I've played a 35gb version of Saving Private Ryan with no problems.
Following movies stutter in WDTV live:
She is out of league
Killers
God father
I play them over wired network. I am able to play blu rays with a bitrate of 30Mb/s
dealz4all
Feb 5th, 2011, 11:57 PM
PBO displays DVD ISOs menus just fine. Its BR menus that is not displayable.
1. a BR ISO is a BR ISO (most of the time), and they play just fine over USB and network too depending on your setup, are you sure you are not talking about MKV rips ?!
2. no go for BR menus.
3. yes there is a dedicated remote control button to cycle between different resolutions.
Hi aasoror, BRs have different bit rates depending on the movie. WDTVs stutters with anything in 37-40Mb/s.
ppl4golf
Feb 6th, 2011, 12:04 AM
Following movies stutter in WDTV live:
She is out of league
Killers
God father
I play them over wired network. I am able to play blu rays with a bitrate of 30Mb/s
Hi aasoror, BRs have different bit rates depending on the movie. WDTVs stutters with anything in 37-40Mb/s.
I also noticed some of my Blu-ray rips are all over the place with the BDMV files. eg Disney Cars. I don't know...maybe the AnyDVDHD built was not capable back then. Anyways, the movie plays flawlessly in HTPC but ONLY recently, the PBO can recognize the sequence of the chunks correctly. However, there are jumps and sudden pauses here and there. So, it's still no gimme.
audit13
Feb 6th, 2011, 10:49 AM
Hi aasoror, BRs have different bit rates depending on the movie. WDTVs stutters with anything in 37-40Mb/s.
Could you give me an example of a movie with a 37 to 40 MB/s bitrate? The highest one I have is about 33. Thanks.
dealz4all
Feb 6th, 2011, 04:27 PM
Could you give me an example of a movie with a 37 to 40 MB/s bitrate? The highest one I have is about 33. Thanks.
She is out of my league -42.1 Mbps
Killers - 42.5 Mbps
audit13
Feb 6th, 2011, 05:48 PM
She is out of my league -42.1 Mbps
Killers - 42.5 Mbps
Thanks for the info. Where did you find those stats?
According to this, She's Out of My League is 33: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1254745
According to this, Killers is 36: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1273119
I'm not sure how accurate the measurements on AVS Forum would be butthis is the site I normally use.
dealz4all
Feb 7th, 2011, 12:43 AM
Thanks for the info. Where did you find those stats?
According to this, She's Out of My League is 33: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1254745
According to this, Killers is 36: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1273119
I'm not sure how accurate the measurements on AVS Forum would be butthis is the site I normally use.
I use the program Mediainfo. it works with MKVs. so you need to convert your iso to mkv.
aasoror
Feb 7th, 2011, 12:54 AM
I use the program Mediainfo. it works with MKVs. so you need to convert your iso to mkv.
OK, I am lost, are you trying to playback BR ISO direct copies, or BR ISOs converted to MKVs ?
dealz4all
Feb 7th, 2011, 02:45 AM
OK, I am lost, are you trying to playback BR ISO direct copies, or BR ISOs converted to MKVs ?
I play BR ISO
Smoothie
Feb 7th, 2011, 03:58 PM
Seems like the Mede8er firmware is the one to go with...
I'll networking the PBO to my Netgear 3500L router, and have an external hard drive attached to the router's USB port. I assume I can easily access my files to the PBO from here? Other option is I would add an internal drive to the PBO, which I can also access from my networked laptops.
I want a simple video wall, where all my videos are listed together. I'd like to view the covers of each, and when I select one, I see the about.jpg that I create using Tvixie/Thumbgen etc. I've been reading I have to put them in specific Genres folders first? So no way to view them all together? Any work arounds for this?
Thanks!!
topdwnloudsound
Feb 7th, 2011, 05:17 PM
But can you tell us what is the rough number range of the last 4 digits of your serial number?
You don't need to give us the exact number if you don't feel comfortable, just say between 2500 to 2600 or something like that would be fine.
My serial numbers ending with 191x & 198x do not have the C+ chip.
my serial number is 205x and on mede8ers firmware it shows "1073dd" no + so im assuming i dont have the c+ chip bought it January 25th from ncix shipped
audit13
Feb 7th, 2011, 05:30 PM
my serial number is 205x and on mede8ers firmware it shows "1073dd" no + so im assuming i dont have the c+ chip bought it January 25th from ncix shipped
Medebo would actually show 107DD C+. Since you see no C or +, your unit won't bitstream HD audio. As I said before, it's not a problem unless you have video sources with HD audio.
redgrandam
Feb 7th, 2011, 05:34 PM
Seems like the Mede8er firmware is the one to go with...
I'll networking the PBO to my Netgear 3500L router, and have an external hard drive attached to the router's USB port. I assume I can easily access my files to the PBO from here? Other option is I would add an internal drive to the PBO, which I can also access from my networked laptops.
I want a simple video wall, where all my videos are listed together. I'd like to view the covers of each, and when I select one, I see the about.jpg that I create using Tvixie/Thumbgen etc. I've been reading I have to put them in specific Genres folders first? So no way to view them all together? Any work arounds for this?
Thanks!!
I simply separated my shows into two categories. Tvseries and movies. No genres. I think that is only suggested. I do my cover art and about pictures manually and put them in the folders with the shows.
bubba_gump
Feb 7th, 2011, 05:38 PM
Anybody experiencing any problems with the Mede8er firmware and the usb Realtek Wifi connections? If I connect on the LAN, it seems fine, if I use the wifi, it seems to have a hard time connecting and it won't stream properly. If I load any other firmware(Aasor's), it connects and streams movies with no problem.
McMaggot
Feb 7th, 2011, 05:44 PM
Price Match Approval Items
SKU Description Regular Price Price Match
44928 Patriot Box Office Network Media Player 2.5IN HDD Support USB HDMI LAN MKV RMVB ISO DTS P2P $129.99 $84.99
price match source: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX26439%28ME%29.aspx
NCIX accepted a PM, I did it just for the hell of it.
Tijuana
Feb 7th, 2011, 06:03 PM
What is bitstream audio? Where is the setting? I believe I have a C+ version.
coolman217
Feb 7th, 2011, 06:04 PM
Price Match Approval Items
SKU Description Regular Price Price Match
44928 Patriot Box Office Network Media Player 2.5IN HDD Support USB HDMI LAN MKV RMVB ISO DTS P2P $129.99 $84.99
price match source: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX26439%28ME%29.aspx
NCIX accepted a PM, I did it just for the hell of it.
Don't forget to add the Patriot 802.11G USB stick to your cart for $5.99
McMaggot
Feb 7th, 2011, 06:27 PM
Don't forget to add the Patriot 802.11G USB stick to your cart for $5.99
Thanks, but I prefer Ethernet. Besides, the adapter is only 802.11g.
audit13
Feb 7th, 2011, 09:05 PM
What is bitstream audio? Where is the setting? I believe I have a C+ version.
Did you load medbo or acrbo and check your system info? You need either version to confirm that you have a C+ chip.
Tijuana
Feb 8th, 2011, 06:32 AM
Did you load medbo or acrbo and check your system info? You need either version to confirm that you have a C+ chip.
Yes Im using medebo and it shows c+
dealz4all
Feb 8th, 2011, 09:29 AM
OK, I am lost, are you trying to playback BR ISO direct copies, or BR ISOs converted to MKVs ?
I play Blu ray ISOs. I have also converted them to MKVs just in case
da1nonly_jsa
Feb 8th, 2011, 09:56 AM
hey pbo owners...
thinking of purchasing this...
just wondering if anyone has streamed movies on the pbo from a device like a pogoplug or iomega iconnect device?
Anyone know if it would work? I'm assuming it does but would like some reassurance before purchasing.
Any info would be great. I searched for iconnect and pogo in this thread but didn't get any hits.
Menace
Feb 8th, 2011, 10:07 AM
If these devices (PBO as well) are on your home network, just stream movies, TV and HD porns :) Not a problem.
hey pbo owners...
thinking of purchasing this...
streamed movies on the pbo from a device like a pogoplug or iomega iconnect device?
da1nonly_jsa
Feb 8th, 2011, 10:14 AM
If these devices (PBO as well) are on your home network, just stream movies, TV and HD porns :) Not a problem.
awesome.
yea.. i have an iconnect device and it streams to an xbox, ps3 and my computers... so it sounds like the pbo should work just the same
Narutard
Feb 8th, 2011, 11:28 AM
Don't forget to add the Patriot 802.11G USB stick to your cart for $5.99
i can't seem to find the usb stick online, can someone post a link
much appreciated
audit13
Feb 8th, 2011, 11:50 AM
i can't seem to find the usb stick online, can someone post a link
much appreciated
It's was a special price if you bought the PBO from ncix. Link: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=12395297
audit13
Feb 8th, 2011, 11:51 AM
Yes Im using medebo and it shows c+
That's great. If you have HD video sources with HD audio (TrueHD or DTS-HD), they you can send the raw undecoded signal via hdmi to your receiver for decoding.
bandit373
Feb 8th, 2011, 12:42 PM
my serial number is 205x and on mede8ers firmware it shows "1073dd" no + so im assuming i dont have the c+ chip bought it January 25th from ncix shipped
Wow it's luck of the draw then...I ordered from NCIX around the same time ( 01/13/2011)and got PBO Core serial number 3400's. No idea if I have the newer chip though.
aasoror
Feb 8th, 2011, 02:07 PM
Wow it's luck of the draw then...I ordered from NCIX around the same time ( 01/13/2011)and got PBO Core serial number 3400's. No idea if I have the newer chip though.
I wouldn't worry myself about it that much.
I can assure you that, 75% of those inquiring about it don't even know what HD-Audio is, not to mention having the proper equipment to decode HD-Audio or even HD-Audio sources.
The main reason I was hesitant to expose the news here is because I knew it would end up with people trying to acquire the newer chipset for no particular reason, beside getting a better bang for buck.
Everyone is trying to make inconclusive connections to figure out how get the DD+ chipset, this will only make whoever gets the DD chipsets feels bad about his brand new purchase. The fact is, even patriot doesn't know exactly which is which and it will take sometime for the majority of the boxes to be DD+.
The thing is the DD PBO isn't being discontinued any time soon, chipsets are now a lottery and if people start to get more cautious trying to seek the DD+ (thus not depleting the current majority DD boxes promptly) the retailers will get stuck with whatever they have eventually killing the product.
Just my 2 cents,
McLaren
Feb 8th, 2011, 02:57 PM
NCIX and ME are OOS. Who else sells it with the MIR?
aasoror
Feb 8th, 2011, 03:46 PM
NCIX and ME are OOS. Who else sells it with the MIR?
CC , TD and NE (non of these would PM though).
Smoothie
Feb 8th, 2011, 04:37 PM
How do I know which Mede8er firmware to use? I ordered one through NCIX, but I haven't received it yet. Do I use the MED500x, or MED400x?
http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php/topic,4275.0.html
Will it be able to find the hard drive attached to my router automatically? Can I find it through the PBO menus, anything special I have to do?
Last one, for the video wall I simply drop in my folder.jpg and about.jpg in the video folder? That sounds easy.
Yes I'm a n00b to all this....
Thanks!!!
Smoothie
Feb 8th, 2011, 04:39 PM
NCIX and ME are OOS. Who else sells it with the MIR?
ME has it in stock now online.
I ordered through NCIX and pm'd ME just now. Shipping was cheaper.
pswart
Feb 8th, 2011, 04:58 PM
ME has it in stock now online.
I ordered through NCIX and pm'd ME just now. Shipping was cheaper.
Was that cheaper than buying it here:
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX26439(ME).aspx
Do you know for sure that you're getting the new model?
I want to get one but I want the new model.
da1nonly_jsa
Feb 8th, 2011, 05:01 PM
thanks op...
pm'd me at ncix...
it was just approved a few minutes ago.
just trying to figure out how to order it online with the pm code they sent me in the email... says i need to go in the quote to purchase it.
BenK
Feb 8th, 2011, 05:12 PM
thanks op...
pm'd me at ncix...
it was just approved a few minutes ago.
just trying to figure out how to order it online with the pm code they sent me in the email... says i need to go in the quote to purchase it.
Did you do the ASPM (Advance Store Price Match)? Cause that's not what you're suppose to do...
Just add the item in your cart and then goto checkout. At the bottom, there is a button for price match, this is for online orders. If you're paying by credit card and your PM is accepted, the entire order should process automatically.
topdwnloudsound
Feb 8th, 2011, 05:15 PM
thanks op...
pm'd me at ncix...
it was just approved a few minutes ago.
just trying to figure out how to order it online with the pm code they sent me in the email... says i need to go in the quote to purchase it.
did u do the ADV store price match? if so thats only for instore ... to do it on line u need to add item to cart then view cart scroll down to price match and enter the PM price and URL of PM source... also it will only work on regular priced items so either find a link of the PBO at regular price @NCIX which is in the forum somewhere. But now its sold out at sale price so when u add to cart it should automatically give u the regular price so it can be PM'd
audit13
Feb 8th, 2011, 06:10 PM
I wouldn't worry myself about it that much.
I can assure you that, 75% of those inquiring about it don't even know what HD-Audio is, not to mention having the proper equipment to decode HD-Audio or even HD-Audio sources....
+1. Most PBO owners are not ripping BDs in an uncompressed format for playback via the PBO just to get HD audio.
I've already said in a few posts that HD audio is meaningless unless you have an HD audio source and an HD audio decoder.
aasoror
Feb 8th, 2011, 07:46 PM
How do I know which Mede8er firmware to use? I ordered one through NCIX, but I haven't received it yet. Do I use the MED500x, or MED400x?
http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php/topic,4275.0.html
It doesn't make a difference, any of those you quoted will equally BRICK your PBO.
On the other hand if YOU CAN READ the OP you should know which firmware to download and from which links.
Best of luck,
I've already said in a few posts that HD audio is meaningless unless you have an HD audio source and an HD audio decoder.
Sad but true, yet you find posts like this ..
Do you know for sure that you're getting the new model?
I want to get one but I want the new model.
People are just clinging to the fact that there is a new model out there, ignoring the fact that there is no way for us to know (for now) how to acquire it.
If enough people will follow this approach, no one will get the newer model :facepalm: there is no way PM is taking all *unconfirmed* stock from NCIX, ME, CC, TD and NE just because people don't want to buy the older chipset, rest assured that everyone is stuck with whatever available now till its completely depleted, even then no one knows when exactly will PM supplier will deplete the DD old chip and start supplying them with DD+ only boxes.
just_For_ipod
Feb 8th, 2011, 08:32 PM
The thing is the DD PBO isn't being discontinued any time soon, chipsets are now a lottery and if people start to get more cautious trying to seek the DD+ (thus not depleting the current majority DD boxes promptly) the retailers will get stuck with whatever they have eventually killing the product.
Just my 2 cents,
NCIX and ME are OOS. Who else sells it with the MIR?
NCIX and ME are backordered and OOS......yeah....if the prices continue to stay around $50 the product isn't going to get killed off any time soon. Though I don't know how the company makes any money from this.
One thing they can do is make the media box like 2cm taller and stick in one of those ultra thin laptop DVD drives(upgradeable to Bluray drives). That shouldn't cost them much more than $10, but they can sell the media box for $20 more. Geez, it'd be like the ultimate all in one media player for cheaper than a DVD player!
nosnoop
Feb 8th, 2011, 08:56 PM
How do I know which Mede8er firmware to use? I ordered one through NCIX, but I haven't received it yet. Do I use the MED500x, or MED400x?
NEVER, Ever flash your PBO Box with unmodified firmware from another player!!!
Your PBO would stop working (bricked)!
Please read the 1st and 2nd post from this thread carefully before proceeding.
All the relevant information, including links to where you download the appropriate modified firmwares were listed there.
Tolo
Feb 8th, 2011, 09:03 PM
NCIX and ME are backordered and OOS......yeah....if the prices continue to stay around $50 the product isn't going to get killed off any time soon. Though I don't know how the company makes any money from this.
One thing they can do is make the media box like 2cm taller and stick in one of those ultra thin laptop DVD drives(upgradeable to Bluray drives). That shouldn't cost them much more than $10, but they can sell the media box for $20 more. Geez, it'd be like the ultimate all in one media player for cheaper than a DVD player!
Actually it would cost more than $10-20 extra as they'd have to pay the licensing fees. Even now with an external usb cdrom you can not play commercial/regioned DVDs...
bunyan69
Feb 8th, 2011, 09:10 PM
I've finally ordered myself the PBO but just as a precaution I would like to get me a Nokia CA-42 USB Data cable in case I brick it in the future. Does anybody know where tot find one at a reasonable cost in the GTA. Thanks
daffod
Feb 8th, 2011, 09:35 PM
bought mine from canada computers PM with tiger direct for 89.99 and bought patriot N usb adapter for 14.99 PM with NCIX total with tax 118-45 rebate comes to 73 with wifi N adapter.
BenK
Feb 8th, 2011, 09:55 PM
bought mine from canada computers PM with tiger direct for 89.99 and bought patriot N usb adapter for 14.99 PM with NCIX total with tax 118-45 rebate comes to 73 with wifi N adapter.
link please.
how did you get it for $14.99?
rocurs
Feb 8th, 2011, 11:28 PM
link please.
how did you get it for $14.99?
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55310&vpn=PCBOWAU2-N&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1285
ppl4golf
Feb 8th, 2011, 11:36 PM
I know I am probably more obscessive-compulsive than audit13...
Let's analyse this :
PBO can bitstream HD with C+ BUT the ones with DD can core bitstream anyways. At least you're not downmixing to 2.0
HD audio and lossy surround DTS/DD may not be that easy to tell apart.
Another sad fact is...this Realtek chip is considered a relatively inferior video chip and has 8-bit color. The difference is very slight. I know when the WDTV Live is on 8-bit vs 12-bit color though.
Other than that, the PBO is cheap and one kick-butt machine...plays RMVB beautifully (that has to matter to some).
audit13
Feb 9th, 2011, 12:02 AM
I know I am probably more obscessive-compulsive than audit13...
Let's analyse this :
PBO can bitstream HD with C+ BUT the ones with DD can core bitstream anyways. At least you're not downmixing to 2.0
HD audio and lossy surround DTS/DD may not be that easy to tell apart.
Another sad fact is...this Realtek chip is considered a relatively inferior video chip and has 8-bit color. The difference is very slight. I know when the WDTV Live is on 8-bit vs 12-bit color though.
Other than that, the PBO is cheap and one kick-butt machine...plays RMVB beautifully (that has to matter to some).
I definitely agree with respect to HD audio vs lossy audio. I know a lot of people want HD audio but a lot of people don't realize that, when playing back TrueHD/DTS-HD, many receivers cannot apply equalization settings (Audyssey, YPAO, MCACC, etc.) to HD audio tracks but these same receivers can apply equaliation to lossy DD/DTS tracks. Not everyone has an ideal listening environment and those equalization settings can definitely come in handy.
The PBO can also playback high-def stereo flac and wav files encoded at 96 khz/24 bit. The sound quality on the sample tracks I downloaded is incredible.
pswart
Feb 9th, 2011, 12:14 AM
Just ordered from Memory Express with Wireless N adapter.
Worked out cheaper for me than price matching at NCIX.
mtlrabbit
Feb 9th, 2011, 12:02 PM
Any possibility to let this box working with my non HDMI av receiver and HDMI projector. I can't see any digial audio output besides HDMI. I know I can down stream to 2 ch, but I really wish I can enjoy my 5.1 stytem. Thanks.
aasoror
Feb 9th, 2011, 01:39 PM
Any possibility to let this box working with my non HDMI av receiver and HDMI projector. I can't see any digial audio output besides HDMI. I know I can down stream to 2 ch, but I really wish I can enjoy my 5.1 stytem. Thanks.
There is an optical SPDIF output as well.
nosnoop
Feb 9th, 2011, 01:56 PM
Any possibility to let this box working with my non HDMI av receiver and HDMI projector. I can't see any digial audio output besides HDMI. I know I can down stream to 2 ch, but I really wish I can enjoy my 5.1 stytem. Thanks.
Yes, there is a SPDIF toslink optical output.
mtlrabbit
Feb 9th, 2011, 02:50 PM
Yes, there is a SPDIF toslink optical output.
Thanks both, finally I can use my toslink cable(my cable is sitting there 3 years and is more expensive than this box) :lol:.
smg669
Feb 9th, 2011, 03:06 PM
Yes, there is a SPDIF toslink optical output.
Can the PBO output video via the HDMI simultaneously with audio via SPDIF?
just_For_ipod
Feb 9th, 2011, 03:22 PM
Actually it would cost more than $10-20 extra as they'd have to pay the licensing fees. Even now with an external usb cdrom you can not play commercial/regioned DVDs...
Well I wouldn't expect a CDrom to play DVDs in the first place. ;)
Well, look around online, DVD roms are as cheap as $20, why would patriot have to pay licensing fees if they're pretty much available to everyone else who doesn't pay licensing fees? Besides, most DVDroms come region free. Or at least the last 3 dvdroms/dvdbruners I got came as region code 0.
I think the reason they don't do it is because it would increase the MSRP, and at the end of the day, consumers prefer the lower MSRP and it seems to be working because look at all the sales of this compared to say the WDTV (or at least on RFD)
aasoror
Feb 9th, 2011, 05:17 PM
Can the PBO output video via the HDMI simultaneously with audio via SPDIF?
You mean HDMI audio and SPDIF audio simultaneously ? only a single firmware was able to do this and it was considered a bug at that time.
If you were asking about HDMI video and SPDIF audio then your answer is yes.
Well I wouldn't expect a CDrom to play DVDs in the first place. ;)
Well, look around online, DVD roms are as cheap as $20, why would patriot have to pay licensing fees if they're pretty much available to everyone else who doesn't pay licensing fees? Besides, most DVDroms come region free. Or at least the last 3 dvdroms/dvdbruners I got came as region code 0.
I think the reason they don't do it is because it would increase the MSRP, and at the end of the day, consumers prefer the lower MSRP and it seems to be working because look at all the sales of this compared to say the WDTV (or at least on RFD)
The DVDRoms/Burner those meant for PCs don't pay for licensing because the hardware itself doesn't have DVD-Video Playback abilities (unless they include an OEM software player which is bulk paid for as well). Even that hardware (PC DVDRom/R) is not commercially distributed as Region 0 but rather a limited ability to switch Regions (to get region free playback you either need a batched firmware for the DVD or use region unlocking software like AnyDVD).
The main reason they don't do it not because of the cost, but because it mainly changes the reference design (you will need another internal SATA connector) and the form factor apparently that was not the focus for this class of media players/streamer (even the Sigma based ones doesn't include an internal DVD.
That said, a slim external USB DVDPlayer can be picked/made for around $25.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61CLYS3d3EL.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51nSmBnCSGL.jpg
yu130960
Feb 9th, 2011, 06:55 PM
I've finally ordered myself the PBO but just as a precaution I would like to get me a Nokia CA-42 USB Data cable in case I brick it in the future. Does anybody know where tot find one at a reasonable cost in the GTA. Thanks
I really wouldn't bother with the cable as it is only really needed if you are updating the bootloader. The new units have the newest one in any event.
These things do brick easy, but they can be recovered simply by doing the SW3 switch trick which is easier then the cable and can be done with some simply soldering.
cdnNick
Feb 9th, 2011, 07:48 PM
Sorry if this has been asked and answered before, I look through some of the pages but 212 is a lot of info.
I liked to know if I can do this with the box: I want to connect it to my TV upstairs via a ethernet cable and watch divx files off of my NAS it doesn't have a uPNP server. Will it connect to a NAS or does it need to connect to a PC to access media? I don't plan on putting in a hard drive, I just wanted a cheap way to show my son's cartoons which I have converted to divx from DVD, I currently use a USB drive connect to a xbox 360 on another TV.
McMaggot
Feb 9th, 2011, 08:00 PM
Sorry if this has been asked and answered before, I look through some of the pages but 212 is a lot of info.
I liked to know if I can do this with the box: I want to connect it to my TV upstairs via a ethernet cable and watch divx files off of my NAS it doesn't have a uPNP server. Will it connect to a NAS or does it need to connect to a PC to access media? I don't plan on putting in a hard drive, I just wanted a cheap way to show my son's cartoons which I have converted to divx from DVD, I currently use a USB drive connect to a xbox 360 on another TV.
Does your NAS support Windows Shares (Samba)?
ppl4golf
Feb 9th, 2011, 08:36 PM
Can the PBO output video via the HDMI simultaneously with audio via SPDIF?
I am sure you meant video via HDMI and audio to SPDIF. YES!!
I have done it for the longest time with the Z-5500. Please note, the PBO actually suck ***** doing SPDIF for some reason with their OFFICIAL firmware. I loaded the MEBO and it solved all the problem. MEBO automatically switches bitstreaming and PCMing via the SPDIF like it's supposed to be. Good firmware.
ppl4golf
Feb 9th, 2011, 08:39 PM
Sorry if this has been asked and answered before, I look through some of the pages but 212 is a lot of info.
I liked to know if I can do this with the box: I want to connect it to my TV upstairs via a ethernet cable and watch divx files off of my NAS it doesn't have a uPNP server. Will it connect to a NAS or does it need to connect to a PC to access media? I don't plan on putting in a hard drive, I just wanted a cheap way to show my son's cartoons which I have converted to divx from DVD, I currently use a USB drive connect to a xbox 360 on another TV.
Hardwiring ethernet cable to router or NAS = definite GO. That's what these units are designed to do and do it well.
cdnNick
Feb 9th, 2011, 09:06 PM
Does your NAS support Windows Shares (Samba)?
Yes, I access it on Windows using a share name like \\nas\files
Hardwiring ethernet cable to router or NAS = definite GO. That's what these units are designed to do and do it well.
That would be great, it would be much easier and cheaper then always keeping my desktop on to access the files like I do with my xbox.
aasoror
Feb 9th, 2011, 11:08 PM
I've finally ordered myself the PBO but just as a precaution I would like to get me a Nokia CA-42 USB Data cable in case I brick it in the future. Does anybody know where tot find one at a reasonable cost in the GTA. Thanks
Check ebay, its about $3 shipped.
I really wouldn't bother with the cable as it is only really needed if you are updating the bootloader. The new units have the newest one in any event.
These things do brick easy, but they can be recovered simply by doing the SW3 switch trick which is easier then the cable and can be done with some simply soldering.
Though calling soldering a "simple" procedure is relative but anyway, SW3 doesn't replace the serial recovery (regardless of bootloader update), for example SW3 trick wont work if you incorrectly flashed with a mismatched bootload firmware. Also depending on at which time did the firmware upgrade fail the recovery can be just a simple reflash, a forced recovery via Telnet, SW3 switch or Serial cable.
GateGuardian
Feb 10th, 2011, 10:46 AM
Does anyone know if it's possible to set the box so that it will go directly to a folder once it boots up? I'm trying to have it set to my network drive once it boots up so it would be easier for my parents to find the movies as they are not that tech savvy.
cdnNick
Feb 10th, 2011, 11:55 AM
$39.99 after rebate @ ME. I think I might jump on this and maybe order 2...
nosnoop
Feb 10th, 2011, 01:58 PM
Does anyone know if it's possible to set the box so that it will go directly to a folder once it boots up? I'm trying to have it set to my network drive once it boots up so it would be easier for my parents to find the movies as they are not that tech savvy.
I also tried to find a way, but I don't think it's possible.
One option is to use macro features of 3rd party remote like the Harmony.
ScEv
Feb 10th, 2011, 09:38 PM
So after spending days on trying to figure out ACRO and getting the RSS feed to work with the semi-official update, i have given up and am now using mede8ter. Very easy to use and i have all my files already sorted.
I've generated the thumbnails and all through Thumbgen, have the folder.jpg and the about.jpg (the background) however when i'm using the video wall, i can't see the about.jpg image. The folders show up just fine, but when i push the enter/zoom button once, it goes straight into playing the movie instead of going to the cover art. Am i missing something here? The resolution size file and all are within the limitations.
I even tried Y2M YAMJ to Mede8er beta 3 and clicked on the index file and it shows up fine on my computer.
ScEv
Feb 10th, 2011, 10:24 PM
So after spending days on trying to figure out ACRO and getting the RSS feed to work with the semi-official update, i have given up and am now using mede8ter. Very easy to use and i have all my files already sorted.
I've generated the thumbnails and all through Thumbgen, have the folder.jpg and the about.jpg (the background) however when i'm using the video wall, i can't see the about.jpg image. The folders show up just fine, but when i push the enter/zoom button once, it goes straight into playing the movie instead of going to the cover art. Am i missing something here? The resolution size file and all are within the limitations.
I even tried Y2M YAMJ to Mede8er beta 3 and clicked on the index file and it shows up fine on my computer.
So i tried reflashing as recommended by others and it worked! had to do it 4 times! but it finally worked! yay!
iakov
Feb 11th, 2011, 01:38 PM
Is it possible to somehow enable autologin to NAS?
I'm running MedeBO 4861 and connect via hardwired network to UnRaid server. And even though I don't have to enter login and password every time I turn on the PBO (it is saved as a shortcut, but I still need to select shortcut and go through extra steps) I would rather PBO to automatically login once I select network and go straight to list of folder on the server.
gsrrr
Feb 11th, 2011, 03:35 PM
I've generated the thumbnails and all through Thumbgen, have the folder.jpg and the about.jpg (the background) however when i'm using the video wall, i can't see the about.jpg image. The folders show up just fine, but when i push the enter/zoom button once, it goes straight into playing the movie instead of going to the cover art. Am i missing something here? The resolution size file and all are within the limitations.
If the folder has more than one video file, it shows the about.jpg (e.g. movies split up into two files, multiple episodes of a tv series).
itsets
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:21 AM
Is there any version of firmware that offers P2P streaming functionality like SopCast, StreamTorrent, TVAnts, etc.?
(http://www.myp2p.eu/software.php?part=software)
These are very useful for watching sports.
How to use MediaTomb to connect your Media Box to sopcast stream.
http://petepr.drivehq.com/humpty/UPnP/upnp.html
struts2k
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:35 PM
I got this weird problem with my PBO.
I connected the PBO to an Onkyo receiver through the composite video.
There is no problem when playing files from the internal 2.5" drive.
As soon as I plugged in the USB external drive (3.5"), the video is gone.
itrocks4u
Feb 12th, 2011, 03:37 PM
Anyone know, If I order today or tomorrow from tiger direct, it won't be shipped/received until Monday or Tuesday earliest, which is after Feb 14.
Can I still claim the rebate, since I did purchase it prior to the expiry of Feb 14?
Please let me know.
Also, where can I find a cheap 2.5" hard drive for it?
plymouthhater
Feb 12th, 2011, 07:07 PM
Anyone know, If I order today or tomorrow from tiger direct, it won't be shipped/received until Monday or Tuesday earliest, which is after Feb 14.
Can I still claim the rebate, since I did purchase it prior to the expiry of Feb 14?
Please let me know.
Also, where can I find a cheap 2.5" hard drive for it?
It is the date you purchased it NOT the date they ship it that the mfr looks at for the rebate. To quote the rebate form "Valid on orders made between 2/1/2011 and 2/14/2011"
You have 30 days from date of purchase to submit rebate.
killoverme
Feb 12th, 2011, 08:29 PM
yay just got my rebate =)
PBO cost me only $15 after taxes =)
aasoror
Feb 12th, 2011, 09:18 PM
It is the date you purchased it NOT the date they ship it that the mfr looks at for the rebate. To quote the rebate form "Valid on orders made between 2/1/2011 and 2/14/2011"
You have 30 days from date of purchase to submit rebate.
To be more specific, its the date on the invoice they include with the order, its really doesn't matter that much when the order was actually placed, most retailers will date the invoice with the date they "charge" your credit card which is considered the day of purchase, not the date of the order.
Any way I wouldn't worry about it that much, TD have 1 business day processing for most orders, so if you order now your invoice would be dated 14th or earlier.
lanslord
Feb 12th, 2011, 09:39 PM
yay just got my rebate =)
PBO cost me only $15 after taxes =)
how is that possible?
molexir
Feb 12th, 2011, 09:50 PM
Question:
I have the PBO Core & all of my 720/1080P nzb downloads look excellent as they should.
They are allegedly in 5.1 DD surround but oddly enough I'm only getting sound out of the R speaker out of the LCR fronts.
Anyone else experiencing this - advice? TIA
aasoror
Feb 12th, 2011, 10:06 PM
They are allegedly in 5.1 DD surround but oddly enough I'm only getting sound out of the R speaker out of the LCR fronts.
Is your AVR reporting 5.1 DD ?!
ppl4golf
Feb 12th, 2011, 10:23 PM
Question:
I have the PBO Core & all of my 720/1080P nzb downloads look excellent as they should.
They are allegedly in 5.1 DD surround but oddly enough I'm only getting sound out of the R speaker out of the LCR fronts.
Anyone else experiencing this - advice? TIA
Is your AVR reporting 5.1 DD ?!
The other thing that you can screw up is selecting anything but HDMI RAW or SPDIF RAW. Well, the stock PBO firmware is kind of screw up on the SPDIF RAW so sometimes you have to select SPDIF LPCM. Multichannel LPCM HDMI never works for me. I switched to MEBO and the sound implementation seems to be better even though I don't have the DD C+ chip.
dnyc
Feb 12th, 2011, 11:34 PM
how is that possible?
dont u hat when ppl gloat and not explain? rfd helps others while he rybs it in ppls faces.
jimchou
Feb 13th, 2011, 12:49 PM
Patriot Box Office Network Media Player (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=44928&promoid=1146) is 39.99 after MIR today.
audit13
Feb 13th, 2011, 12:57 PM
Patriot Box Office Network Media Player (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=44928&promoid=1146) is 39.99 after MIR today.
This is a great price since there were no good places to pm with ncix.
macaque
Feb 13th, 2011, 01:09 PM
NCIX isn't standing by their PM policy, take your business to ME till NCIX get their act together.
Is NCIX still honouring their price match policy? Has anyone had any issues dealing with them?
Also, the $10 Visa Perks offer only applies to purchases of $100 or more if i read it correctly.
I was at the Canada Computers location on Kennedy at wasn't aware they had a PM policy.. should've picked it up there!
Thanks to aasoror for taking the time to keep this updated! It's much appreciated!
audit13
Feb 13th, 2011, 01:11 PM
I was at the Canada Computers location on Kennedy at wasn't aware they had a PM policy.. should've picked it up there!
I find CC doesn't PM anyone, despite what they say. Also, the rebate is for purchases from ncix only.
macaque
Feb 13th, 2011, 01:15 PM
I find CC doesn't PM anyone, despite what they say. Also, the rebate is for purchases from ncix only.
There really is nothing worse than retailers not standing by their policies! Drives me absolutely nuts. Say what you will about the big box stores but price matching with them is pretty painless. The line-ups suck though :lol:
Looks like the tiger's getting my business.
pupazzo
Feb 13th, 2011, 01:17 PM
yay just got my rebate =)
PBO cost me only $15 after taxes =)
Lol noob mine cost me $7.99 after taxes
kiasu
Feb 13th, 2011, 01:38 PM
Lol noob mine cost me $7.99 after taxes
$15????
what's the lowest price before MIR before?
bunyan69
Feb 13th, 2011, 01:42 PM
Doens anyone know what patriot considers a valid invoice. All I got was a packing slip with my PBO from NCIX and I am wondering if I print off an invoice from my account on the NCIX website is acceptable. Thanks to all
PS Lovin the PBO so far
McLaren
Feb 13th, 2011, 01:57 PM
I ordered on the 8th from NCIX, and still haven't got a shipping notice yet. And they have already charged my cc, they better not give me a new invoice when i pick it up or else the rebate won't be valid.
molexir
Feb 13th, 2011, 02:42 PM
Is your AVR reporting 5.1 DD ?!
That's the funny thing it is - but only sound from the R of the LCR channels nothing from RR/RL. Don't get it.
I know my receiver is fine with my PS3 in 5.1 or any other mode - so not sure whats up here
The other thing that you can screw up is selecting anything but HDMI RAW or SPDIF RAW. Well, the stock PBO firmware is kind of screw up on the SPDIF RAW so sometimes you have to select SPDIF LPCM. Multichannel LPCM HDMI never works for me. I switched to MEBO and the sound implementation seems to be better even though I don't have the DD C+ chip.
I tried switching those around but didn't seem to make a difference - will try again.
I don't have the DD C+ chip.
In the PBO or in your receiver?
Thanx for the reply guys
just_For_ipod
Feb 13th, 2011, 02:46 PM
Lol noob mine cost me $7.99 after taxes
How did you manage that?
WalmartMartyr
Feb 13th, 2011, 03:07 PM
I just ordered this as its now online available again at MemExpress. I PM'd with tigerdirect for an extra $10 off, total should be $45 after mail in rebate.
heres the problem.
I see the MIR link on TigerDirects website, so I clicked it and started filling in the rebate info, then a page or two later it asked for the sellers name in a pull down box, tigerdirect was the only option, so I stopped there cus I bought it at MemExpress. Next day I get an email from patriot memory about my rebate and tracking number and for me to continue with my online submission.
So now that I bought it at mem express, does that mean i cannot mail in the rebate with the proper info, cus now my name and address is registered with patriot memory with tiger direct? that would suck.
yangxu
Feb 13th, 2011, 03:17 PM
How's PBO compared to WDTV Live?
I have WDTV Live and I'm frustrated by the fact that none of the ***** /SSA subtitles can be displayed correctly in animes... all the beautiful fonts come out plain and messy. If PBO's has a mod that enables the stuff above, I'll probably consider buying one since it's so cheap.
sf1
Feb 13th, 2011, 05:16 PM
ordered and got charged an extra $2.75 environment fee
I didn't get this charge when the PBO was at the same price at CC in December
this fee is so random I am starting to doubt it is really "for the good cause of the environment"
plymouthhater
Feb 13th, 2011, 05:27 PM
Also, the $10 Visa Perks offer only applies to purchases of $100 or more if i read it correctly.
I ordered just the PBO from Tiger Direct via the Visa Perks link:
Invoice read as follows:
Net Product $89.97
Sales Tax: $11.34
P&H $7.20
Total Discount: $10
Total Shipment $98.51
So it looks like they count the shipping and handling towards the minimum of $100 to qualify for the discount?
My after rebate cost is $53.51 + the cost of stamp for the rebate.
GTT1
Feb 13th, 2011, 05:28 PM
is anyone having trouble with the rebate, i got the $40 rebate from ncix, sent it in around December 20ish, haven't got an email of confirmation, I have called in, they have no records of the rebate?
what to do?
How long does the process take?
ex. time it takes to go in the system? time it takes for you to receive a confirmation of reception? time it takes to receive a cheque?
Sent my rebate form on December 29th purchased it on Dec 10th. Waited a couple of weeks to be sure I wanted to keep it.
Just found the link (http://www.rebate-zone.com/default.asp?PN=PM0176) on their site and it indicates mailed Feb 10 2011. Hopefully I should receive it by Feb 19th end of next week.
So it takes about 1.5 months which considering mail to Texas and back is not that bad.
Posting this in case others are curious as to time frames.
sabelo
Feb 13th, 2011, 05:33 PM
Rebate expires tomorrow eh? I've had my eye on this for a while now..
Anyone know what the best approach is right now? NCIX has it for $39.99 after rebate, which is the best I can come up with.
Visaperks sounds great, but it requires $100+ and then there's shipping?
Thanks to anyone who can help.
killoverme
Feb 13th, 2011, 06:42 PM
$15????
what's the lowest price before MIR before?
I don't know about 7.99 but amazon had it for 49.99 and then I got approved for my 40 dollar MIR =)
Tijuana
Feb 13th, 2011, 06:54 PM
If I'm using medebo, is there anyway to make a clone copy? Basically I want to setup the one I have now, and then I want to have the exact same one for my other TV. Do I just copy certain files to the other one?
joeblowyy
Feb 13th, 2011, 08:45 PM
How do you get the $5 wireless g adapter at ncix? Or is this expired? First page lists it as updated Feb 12.
ikbal
Feb 13th, 2011, 10:08 PM
Just now i have orderd through visa perks , my final invoice shows $ 109.83
i ordered just the pbo from tiger direct via the visa perks link:
Invoice read as follows:
Net product $89.97
sales tax: $11.34
p&h $7.20
total discount: $10
total shipment $98.51
so it looks like they count the shipping and handling towards the minimum of $100 to qualify for the discount?
My after rebate cost is $53.51 + the cost of stamp for the rebate.
nosnoop
Feb 13th, 2011, 10:36 PM
How do you get the $5 wireless g adapter at ncix? Or is this expired? First page lists it as updated Feb 12.
If it is available, it would listed in the Patriot Box Office page as a promotion.
Since it is not listed there any more, it looks like it is expired. When this rebate promotion is over, it is very likely that there will be a new one within a few days. And the wifi dongle promotion may be back.
They used to include a wireless n adapter for $5 last month. And they switched to g in this month's promotion.
madara
Feb 13th, 2011, 11:53 PM
Will any wireless dongle work with this or only those PM branded?
nosnoop
Feb 14th, 2011, 01:27 AM
Will any wireless dongle work with this...
No, check the first post of this thread, or the list here:
http://patriot-box-office.wikidot.com/adding-wifi-n-to-the-pbo
Esca
Feb 14th, 2011, 02:23 AM
Planning to buy this instore tomorrow. For those that have bought this recently, which wireless adapter and hard drive did you buy? The cheapest I found after a quick search are:
WI-FI USB Wireless LAN Adapter IEEE 802.11 B/G/N Compatible With Patriot Box Office - $19.99 from NCIX (http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=55310&vpn=PCBOWAU2-N&manufacture=Patriot)
Western Digital Scorpio Black (WD3200BEKT) 320GB SATA 7200 RPM 16MB Cache 2.5" Laptop Hard Disk (OEM) - $49.99 from Canada Computers until Feb. 17th (http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=569_15_215_217&item_id=019174)
Does the RPM, Cache, and buying a HDD vs. a SSD matter too much for using this unit? Also, what exactly can you do with the wireless adapter other than streaming files to this unit?
plymouthhater
Feb 14th, 2011, 08:14 AM
I ordered from Tiger Direct on Saturday morning. I received an email this morning that the item is in transit, shipped by UPS (tracking number provided), so I guess I made it in time to qualify for the MIR.
audit13
Feb 14th, 2011, 10:47 AM
Planning to buy this instore tomorrow....
Western Digital Scorpio Black (WD3200BEKT) 320GB SATA 7200 RPM 16MB Cache 2.5" Laptop Hard Disk (OEM) - $49.99 from Canada Computers until Feb. 17th (http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=569_15_215_217&item_id=019174)
Does the RPM, Cache, and buying a HDD vs. a SSD matter too much for using this unit? Also, what exactly can you do with the wireless adapter other than streaming files to this unit?
If you're going to put a drive inside the PBO, I recommend not getting a 7200 rpm drive as it generates too much heat and the speed is not required to playback video and audio, even high bit rate video. An SSD is nice but wasted inside a PBO since they are limited in size and cost a lot.
M.D.
Feb 14th, 2011, 11:07 AM
I ordered from Tiger Direct on Saturday morning. I received an email this morning that the item is in transit, shipped by UPS (tracking number provided), so I guess I made it in time to qualify for the MIR.
is it available in stores too or can only purchase online?
AAA
Feb 14th, 2011, 02:38 PM
is it available in stores too or can only purchase online?
online only
ppl4golf
Feb 14th, 2011, 02:56 PM
Planning to buy this instore tomorrow. For those that have bought this recently, which wireless adapter and hard drive did you buy? The cheapest I found after a quick search are:
WI-FI USB Wireless LAN Adapter IEEE 802.11 B/G/N Compatible With Patriot Box Office - $19.99 from NCIX (http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=55310&vpn=PCBOWAU2-N&manufacture=Patriot)
Western Digital Scorpio Black (WD3200BEKT) 320GB SATA 7200 RPM 16MB Cache 2.5" Laptop Hard Disk (OEM) - $49.99 from Canada Computers until Feb. 17th (http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=569_15_215_217&item_id=019174)
Does the RPM, Cache, and buying a HDD vs. a SSD matter too much for using this unit? Also, what exactly can you do with the wireless adapter other than streaming files to this unit?
If you're going to put a drive inside the PBO, I recommend not getting a 7200 rpm drive as it generates too much heat and the speed is not required to playback video and audio, even high bit rate video. An SSD is nice but wasted inside a PBO since they are limited in size and cost a lot.
+1
$50 got me a WD Green 5400rpm 640GB last month. Putting a SSD makes absolutely no sense...make better use of it somewhere else.
If you already have the 7200rpm HDD, by all means, play around with it. The network transfer speed on the PBO is a dismal 5-6MB/s. You drive will still heat up but it ain't reading/writing any faster than the slowest drive you can find!!
audit13
Feb 14th, 2011, 04:00 PM
online only
I met up with another RFD member on Saturday and he told all the TigerDirect stores were sold out.
I picked up another PBO Core from the Markham warehouse this morning and will be flashing it with medebo very soon..
Esca
Feb 14th, 2011, 04:37 PM
If you're going to put a drive inside the PBO, I recommend not getting a 7200 rpm drive as it generates too much heat and the speed is not required to playback video and audio, even high bit rate video. An SSD is nice but wasted inside a PBO since they are limited in size and cost a lot.
+1
$50 got me a WD Green 5400rpm 640GB last month. Putting a SSD makes absolutely no sense...make better use of it somewhere else.
If you already have the 7200rpm HDD, by all means, play around with it. The network transfer speed on the PBO is a dismal 5-6MB/s. You drive will still heat up but it ain't reading/writing any faster than the slowest drive you can find!!
Thanks. I guess I'll wait around for a better deal on the hard drive. Looks like I can't even pick up the Patriot box instore as the one closest to me is out of stock.
aasoror
Feb 14th, 2011, 05:15 PM
Thanks. I guess I'll wait around for a better deal on the hard drive. Looks like I can't even pick up the Patriot box instore as the one closest to me is out of stock.
Trust me, if you don't intend to use the PBO on the go, there is next to no reason to have an HDD in there. The PBO does an excellent job streaming any media of the network. And for those super size enourmouse MKVs that would give you trouble being streamed a USB drive would be your answer (you really don't want to wait for DAYS moving 50GB MKV to the PBO local HDD using using LAN or the super slow PBO USB slave port).
audit13
Feb 14th, 2011, 05:46 PM
I just started trying out my new PBO Core and I'm having the same connection issues I had with the first PBO I purchased in that it can't seem to sync the audio and video through my receiver. The screen keeps blanking every couple of seconds and my receiver flashes between no audio and auto. I guess I'm going back to ncix for another exchange. Grrr. Even connected directly to my tv is not good.
Edit: Did some more testing with different firmware (p02, p05, 61r2, medebo, acrbo) and two different hdmi cables but still no go. My older PBO didn't care which firmware or hdmi cable I used, it just worked.
ppl4golf
Feb 14th, 2011, 06:45 PM
I just started trying out my new PBO Core and I'm having the same connection issues I had with the first PBO I purchased in that it can't seem to sync the audio and video through my receiver. The screen keeps blanking every couple of seconds and my receiver flashes between no audio and auto. I guess I'm going back to ncix for another exchange. Grrr. Even connected directly to my tv is not good.
hdmi cable problem ??
ppl4golf
Feb 14th, 2011, 06:48 PM
Trust me, if you don't intend to use the PBO on the go, there is next to no reason to have an HDD in there. The PBO does an excellent job streaming any media of the network. And for those super size enourmouse MKVs that would give you trouble being streamed a USB drive would be your answer (you really don't want to wait for DAYS moving 50GB MKV to the PBO local HDD using using LAN or the super slow PBO USB slave port).
It does make the unit quieter :):)
FWIW, the back mini USB is within reasonable range of sustainable 25MB/s for a USB2 device.
I do suggest not to get anything too big, 640GB is pretty sweet.
audit13
Feb 14th, 2011, 06:50 PM
hdmi cable problem ??
Nope, I tried different hdmi cables and firmware releases. Even the hdmi cable that works with my current PBO won't work with the new one.
Corwin1066
Feb 14th, 2011, 10:03 PM
I just flashed with the Medebo firmware, downloaded Y2M and couldn't be happier with Video Wall that results from this combination.
The only issue I have with this is the wireless connectivity (I'm using a Patriot Wireless-N USB dongle that has worked before).
My router is set up with WPA2-PSK [AES} and works fine with all other devices. With the Medebo firmware, I can't establish a connection, even though it can see the broadcast SSID fine. It's curious that there is not actually a WPA2 option; rather there is only a WPA option.
Has anyone out there managed to get this working with a configuration similar to mine?
RastaManMax
Feb 14th, 2011, 10:31 PM
Does anybody know how to share files properly with Windows 7 Ultimate? It keeps asking for a stupid password and login even after i disable it in network and sharing. I can log in fine to my XP Pro laptop. For some reason, I think i'll need an XP based computer to troubleshoot everytime I can't figure out how to navigate all these useless new OS's.
I never realized just how user unfriendly Windows has become...
ikbal
Feb 14th, 2011, 10:37 PM
final invoice today shows $ 98.51
Just now i have orderd through visa perks , my final invoice shows $ 109.83
aasoror
Feb 14th, 2011, 10:54 PM
Does anybody know how to share files properly with Windows 7 Ultimate? It keeps asking for a stupid password and login even after i disable it in network and sharing. I can log in fine to my XP Pro laptop. For some reason, I think i'll need an XP based computer to troubleshoot everytime I can't figure out how to navigate all these useless new OS's.
I never realized just how user unfriendly Windows has become...
There is a whole sticky thread about it in PM forums.
Have fun reading. :)
RastaManMax
Feb 14th, 2011, 11:00 PM
There is a whole sticky thread about it in PM forums.
Have fun reading. :)
PM forums?
audit13
Feb 14th, 2011, 11:39 PM
hdmi cable problem ??
I finally figured it out. For some reason, there appears to be a handshaking problem with the receiver. When I connected the unit to my two year old Onkyo, everything was fine. I never would have thought that the receiver was the problem.
sabelo
Feb 14th, 2011, 11:40 PM
How does the Visa Perks promotion work?
I'm at the checkout and I don't see a discount (I followed the link to tigerdirect from the visa page)
Thanks in advance!
nosnoop
Feb 14th, 2011, 11:58 PM
PM forums?
Here:
http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2080
startoss
Feb 15th, 2011, 12:13 AM
Just got the $40 MIR from Patriot today. It was the fastest MIR (less than 2 months) I ever applied for. My OCZ MIR (15 weeks now) on the other hand has yet to come...
BenK
Feb 15th, 2011, 12:30 AM
WOW, the Patriot Wireless-N adapter does not fit on the back USB...kinda stupid...
in other news, picked up my unit today from NCIX scarb, will probably attempt the flash to MedeBo over the weekend. But the unit is working great so far.
audit13
Feb 15th, 2011, 12:33 AM
WOW, the Patriot Wireless-N adapter does not fit on the back USB...kinda stupid...
in other news, picked up my unit today from NCIX scarb, will probably attempt the flash to MedeBo over the weekend. But the unit is working great so far.
Mine fits, but it's not a good fit. The bottom lip of the case interferes with the adapter outer shell.
RastaManMax
Feb 15th, 2011, 12:55 AM
Here:
http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2080
Thanks man. I finally got it working but with regedit. Hopefully I can reenable my firewall and still have this thing work. I'm scared to try the firmware upgrade because it's already so questionable...:lol:
BenK
Feb 15th, 2011, 12:57 AM
Mine fits, but it's not a good fit. The bottom lip of the case interferes with the adapter outer shell.
it actually works? almost half the usb doesn't go in...i didn't even bother trying.
audit13
Feb 15th, 2011, 01:07 AM
it actually works? almost half the usb doesn't go in...i didn't even bother trying.
Medebo recognizes the adapter but I haven't bothered trying to connect to my network since I only use the player to play movies and audio from a usb hard drive.
Esca
Feb 15th, 2011, 02:46 AM
Trust me, if you don't intend to use the PBO on the go, there is next to no reason to have an HDD in there. The PBO does an excellent job streaming any media of the network. And for those super size enourmouse MKVs that would give you trouble being streamed a USB drive would be your answer (you really don't want to wait for DAYS moving 50GB MKV to the PBO local HDD using using LAN or the super slow PBO USB slave port).
Hmm, never thought about that. I don't intend to carry it around, just thought it would look more compact instead of having an external memory attached. Somehow I thought doing a USB to USB transfer wouldn't be too slow...I guess more to think before I actually get my unit...
rozsalyib
Feb 15th, 2011, 09:52 AM
Anyone tried sharing a desktop DVD-ROM or a BD-ROM through the network and stream the DVD's or Blu-ray's to the PBO?
audit13
Feb 15th, 2011, 09:56 AM
Anyone tried sharing a desktop DVD-ROM or a BD-ROM through the network and stream the DVD's or Blu-ray's to the PBO?
I connected a usb dvd directly to the PBO and inserted an avchd disc (UDF 2.5) which is the same structure as a BD. It was not recognized as a proper "data disc" by the PBO and wouldn't play. I then tried a BD-rom and still no go.
da1nonly_jsa
Feb 15th, 2011, 12:09 PM
Gonna be picking mine up today...
For anyone with a harmony remote... does the harmony only work with the default software on the PBO or will it work even after you customize the PBO with ACRBO or MedeBO?
Neb
Feb 15th, 2011, 12:43 PM
Gonna be picking mine up today...
For anyone with a harmony remote... does the harmony only work with the default software on the PBO or will it work even after you customize the PBO with ACRBO or MedeBO?
I have my harmony set to PBO software, works with Medebo firmware, no probs.
ppl4golf
Feb 15th, 2011, 12:50 PM
I have my harmony set to PBO software, works with Medebo firmware, no probs.
For the most part, the stock PBO remote/buttons are of the same function as the MEBO...only a few buttons are screwed up.
mygong
Feb 15th, 2011, 12:54 PM
Hello OP, congrat for one of the longest running post.
Is there anyway that the Pbox can supports MP4 files?
Menace
Feb 15th, 2011, 12:57 PM
It is supported. I was playing MP4 yesterday.
Hello OP, congrat for one of the longest running post.
Is there anyway that the Pbox can supports MP4 files?
ppl4golf
Feb 15th, 2011, 01:00 PM
Hello OP, congrat for one of the longest running post.
Is there anyway that the Pbox can supports MP4 files?
It is supported. I was playing MP4 yesterday.
PBO pretty much plays everything common except a few WMV/WMA...and it doesn't do DVR-MS which is a dying Microsoft TV Recording format.
aasoror
Feb 15th, 2011, 02:45 PM
Anyone tried sharing a desktop DVD-ROM or a BD-ROM through the network and stream the DVD's or Blu-ray's to the PBO?
Sharing the DVD/BD drive over the network worked without a problem, you will need a decrypting software running on your PC when you are accessing the drive over the network (like AnyDVD), I was able to play retail DVDs/BR without a problem over the network.
audit13
Feb 15th, 2011, 02:52 PM
Sharing the DVD/BD drive over the network worked without a problem, you will need a decrypting software running on your PC when you are accessing the drive over the network (like AnyDVD), I was able to play retail DVDs/BR without a problem over the network.
This is great news. Do you know of a way to play a BR with a bd-rom connected through the PBO's usb port? I couldn't get it to work.
aasoror
Feb 15th, 2011, 02:59 PM
This is great news. Do you know of a way to play a BR with a bd-rom connected through the PBO's usb port? I couldn't get it to work.
Neither (region locked) retail BRD nor retail DVD will work via external drives.
You will need a either use region free discs or burn decrypted copies, DATA BR-D and Decrypted video BR-D works without a problem using external BD drives.
McMaggot
Feb 15th, 2011, 03:01 PM
New MIRs have shown up, albeit $5 lighter.
audit13
Feb 15th, 2011, 03:12 PM
Neither (region locked) retail BRD nor retail DVD will work via external drives.
You will need a either use region free discs or burn decrypted copies, DATA BR-D and Decrypted video BR-D works without a problem using external BD drives.
I took a BD and compressed it 8gb and put it onto a dl dvd in an avchd (UDF 2.5) format, placed it in a usb dvd drive, and chose the DVD option in medebo, and received a that told me this is not a data disc. When I try to browse my media files, no drives are available under the usb option. The only drive connected to the PBO was my usb DVD. I then tried an external BD-rom drive with a region-free BR from Amazon UK and got the same message.
I must be doing something wrong.
aasoror
Feb 15th, 2011, 03:30 PM
I took a BD and compressed it 8gb and put it onto a dl dvd in an avchd (UDF 2.5) format, placed it in a usb dvd drive, and chose the DVD option in medebo, and received a that told me this is not a data disc. When I try to browse my media files, no drives are available under the usb option. The only drive connected to the PBO was my usb DVD. I then tried an external BD-rom drive with a region-free BR from Amazon UK and got the same message.
I must be doing something wrong.
Sorry should have been more clear, encryption and region locking are two different access control mechanisms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc).
So not only you need region 0 discs but you also need them to be un-encrypted.
Try burning your DL DVD as a data disc and not a video disc and see if this solves the issue reported above.
audit13
Feb 15th, 2011, 03:42 PM
Sorry should have been more clear, encryption and region locking are two different access control mechanisms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc).
So not only you need region 0 discs but you also need them to be un-encrypted.
Try burning your DL DVD as a data disc and not a video disc and see if this solves the issue reported above.
I want to avoid burning the DL DVD as a data disc because, as a data disc, it will not play in standalone BR players. Copied to a usb hard drive as a data folder, the movie plays perfectly on the PBO.
I just tried with a BR movie I compressed to a BD-25 blank. There is no encryption or region coding on the BD-25 and it still didn't work. Not really a big deal but it would have been an added bonus on top of all the other things this device can do.
andreid
Feb 15th, 2011, 04:18 PM
I recently build a second WHS server but the PBO (with original firmware) can't recognize the newest WHS. On a PC, W7 does recognize it. How can make the PBO scan and discover the other WHS? Thanks for your help.
BenK
Feb 15th, 2011, 07:59 PM
Can you install xLive on Mede8o? or does it only work on ACRBO
Smoothie
Feb 15th, 2011, 08:18 PM
I got my PBO setup with Medebo and got the moviesheets working. Thanks everyone!
What video and audio settings should I be using? Everything will be going through my received, a Harmon 3600, then to a 1080p capable projector. The movie sheets are 1280x720, but they don't fill the entire screen, its set to 16:9.
Thanks again!!
audit13
Feb 15th, 2011, 09:43 PM
I got my PBO setup with Medebo and got the moviesheets working. Thanks everyone!
What video and audio settings should I be using? Everything will be going through my received, a Harmon 3600, then to a 1080p capable projector. The movie sheets are 1280x720, but they don't fill the entire screen, its set to 16:9.
Thanks again!!
I recommend running the PBO at 1080p/60 or 1080p/24, depending your display's capabilities. For audio, use hdmi passthrough so your receiver will do the decoding.
aasoror
Feb 15th, 2011, 09:48 PM
Can you install xLive on Mede8o? or does it only work on ACRBO
ACRBO and PBO semi-official mega-packs.
ppl4golf
Feb 15th, 2011, 11:42 PM
I took a BD and compressed it 8gb and put it onto a dl dvd in an avchd (UDF 2.5) format, placed it in a usb dvd drive, and chose the DVD option in medebo, and received a that told me this is not a data disc. When I try to browse my media files, no drives are available under the usb option. The only drive connected to the PBO was my usb DVD. I then tried an external BD-rom drive with a region-free BR from Amazon UK and got the same message.
I must be doing something wrong.
Isn't an important aspect of this gadget is to avoid the actual discs ??
I haven't burnt one in a long, long time. Yes, my Sony S550 Blu-ray player has a slight edge in video quality...but not needing to get off the couch is more important :)
audit13
Feb 16th, 2011, 01:12 AM
Isn't an important aspect of this gadget is to avoid the actual discs ??
I haven't burnt one in a long, long time. Yes, my Sony S550 Blu-ray player has a slight edge in video quality...but not needing to get off the couch is more important :)
This is true, but I have some AVCHD format DL DVD discs that a friend would like to play in their PBO via a usb DVD drive. They don't have a BD playerat the moment.
Menace
Feb 16th, 2011, 11:32 AM
+1 Ha Ha, I haven't bought any DL DVD for a while. $$$ I saved for future NAS\WHS disks upgrade.
Isn't an important aspect of this gadget is to avoid the actual discs ??
I haven't burnt one in a long, long time. Yes, my Sony S550 Blu-ray player has a slight edge in video quality...but not needing to get off the couch is more important :)
ShaTR
Feb 16th, 2011, 08:07 PM
Hey all,
Just got this for my parents room. Just want to know if there's a way to dumb it down a little for them.
As it is right now, they have to go to
Browser sub movies. Then NET - FREENAS - VIDEO - Movies, then choose the folder and the file therein. Since they will only be using it once in a while, they will constant forget how to get to the movies.
I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to make it simpler for them. Perhaps a fw that shoots you strait there when you click "movies"
Oh, and the list of movies is HUGE. any way to scroll through them faster, or jump to a letter??
Any help is greatly appreciated :) TIA!
cdnNick
Feb 16th, 2011, 08:21 PM
Hey all,
Just got this for my parents room. Just want to know if there's a way to dumb it down a little for them.
As it is right now, they have to go to
Browser sub movies. Then NET - FREENAS - VIDEO - Movies, then choose the folder and the file therein. Since they will only be using it once in a while, they will constant forget how to get to the movies.
I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to make it simpler for them. Perhaps a fw that shoots you strait there when you click "movies"
Oh, and the list of movies is HUGE. any way to scroll through them faster, or jump to a letter??
Any help is greatly appreciated :) TIA!
I was just playing with it and I would like to know the same too. My wife will never remember all the steps to get to the folder. I see there is a shortcut section but how do you add to it?
aasoror
Feb 16th, 2011, 08:29 PM
Browser sub movies. Then NET - FREENAS - VIDEO - Movies, then choose the folder and the file therein. Since they will only be using it once in a while, they will constant forget how to get to the movies.
I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to make it simpler for them. Perhaps a fw that shoots you strait there when you click "movies"
load MedeBO firmware and setup movie wall.
Oh, and the list of movies is HUGE. any way to scroll through them faster, or jump to a letter??
if you are using official firmware then pressing "prev-next" will skip a whole page.
On MedeBO you can jump to a letter using the remote control.
ShaTR
Feb 17th, 2011, 12:14 AM
load MedeBO firmware and setup movie wall.
You, sir, have been most helpfull.
DL'ing the latest MedeBO right now. - 26/1/2011 : 5249 patched
Here's hoping i dont brick anything lol
Thanks again :)
BenK
Feb 17th, 2011, 12:21 AM
woot got the megapack installed after flashback to P02.
bugs:
-YT doesn't work from main IMS menu, works from xLive though. Seems like others have this issue as well.
and someone recommended some good metafeeds.....i haven't found anything useful -_-
BobSagget
Feb 17th, 2011, 12:25 AM
Is this easy to stream and browse shares from a Windows 7 pc?
aasoror
Feb 17th, 2011, 12:32 AM
DL'ing the latest MedeBO right now. - 26/1/2011 : 5249 patched
Here's hoping i dont brick anything lol
The chance of bricking your PBO using one of my firmwares is exactly equal to the chance of bricking your PBO using official firmwares from PM, so it happens but less likely to be fatal :)
bugs:
-YT doesn't work from main IMS menu, works from xLive though. Seems like others have this issue as well.
If YT partially work then this is the reported bug, if YT doesn't work at all then make sure BT/SAMBA is enabled from the PBO setup menu.
RastaManMax
Feb 17th, 2011, 01:24 AM
Hmm, i installed Medebo and got the video wall up and running but now when i try to stream a movie from my computer, it's lagging like heck and not just the load, during the movie it lags as well so that i'm almost watching a slideshow. Didn't happen with the original firmware. Anybody else have this issue?
serge2k
Feb 17th, 2011, 06:31 AM
I forgot to send in my rebate form.
It expired on the 14th, what should I do?
shopper-X
Feb 17th, 2011, 08:51 AM
I forgot to send in my rebate form.
It expired on the 14th, what should I do?
You have 30 days from purchase date to mail it in.
david_lin911
Feb 17th, 2011, 10:24 PM
Hmm, i installed Medebo and got the video wall up and running but now when i try to stream a movie from my computer, it's lagging like heck and not just the load, during the movie it lags as well so that i'm almost watching a slideshow. Didn't happen with the original firmware. Anybody else have this issue?
I have no problems. Maybe because you're download while streaming? I'm using 801.11G and I can stream H264 MKV container 1.4GB movies.
aasoror
Feb 18th, 2011, 11:41 PM
PM TD @ ME and get it for $50 ($90 PM'ed - $40 MIR).
Details at first post.
packardbell
Feb 18th, 2011, 11:53 PM
PM TD @ ME and get it for $50 ($90 PM'ed - $40 MIR).
Details at first post.
OOS. I want this badly. when will they have stock?
aasoror
Feb 18th, 2011, 11:55 PM
OOS. I want this badly. when will they have stock?
Don't worry they usually restock mid week.
packardbell
Feb 19th, 2011, 12:36 AM
Don't worry they usually restock mid week.
I sent a PM to NCIX for a 6850 @ 159 from onhop and they accepted, now I sent a PM to NCIX for the POB @ 89 at TD and see if they accept or reject it. :razz:
RastaManMax
Feb 19th, 2011, 01:52 AM
I have no problems. Maybe because you're download while streaming? I'm using 801.11G and I can stream H264 MKV container 1.4GB movies.
I think it just needed a restart I suppose. Flashed the Medebo onto it, changed up some settings, moved my files to a new harddrive, set up wireless, then used Y2M to get the wall up and started watching a movie before rebooting. After rebooting, everything seems to work fine. Even streaming 8GB 720p or 1080p rips appear to be working properly on my Patriot G adapter and Asus WL-520GU router.
Esca
Feb 19th, 2011, 05:51 PM
I finally received my PBO yesterday. Just wondering which firmware everyone is using or which one is recommended? There seems to be a lot to choose from reading the first post. I just checked the firmware I have and it's P0020BC18-61. Also, since this is the stock firmware, I don't need to downgrade to 'P02', do I? Thanks.
packardbell
Feb 19th, 2011, 06:17 PM
I sent a PM to NCIX for a 6850 @ 159 from onhop and they accepted, now I sent a PM to NCIX for the POB @ 89 at TD and see if they accept or reject it. :razz:
looks like NCIX accepted the PM.:facepalm:
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Ssseth
Feb 19th, 2011, 08:22 PM
I was just about to take the plunge on the new Apple TV and load XBMC on it. However I just stumbled across this thread. Besides the obvious (Apple TV limited to 720p output at the moment) what would be the advantage or disadvantage of the latest Apple TV with XBMC on it compared to this? My primary use will be just for streaming mkv and divx files from my basement over wired gigabit network. This is just for a secondary TV, I have a full blown HTPC hooked up to my main media room (projector).
just_For_ipod
Feb 19th, 2011, 09:02 PM
I was just about to take the plunge on the new Apple TV and load XBMC on it. However I just stumbled across this thread. Besides the obvious (Apple TV limited to 720p output at the moment) what would be the advantage or disadvantage of the latest Apple TV with XBMC on it compared to this? My primary use will be just for streaming mkv and divx files from my basement over wired gigabit network. This is just for a secondary TV, I have a full blown HTPC hooked up to my main media room (projector).
I'm not familiar with the Apple TV, so I can't compare.
But the PBO is only 10/100 ethernet, it's not gigabit. That being said, so far, I've had no problem streaming even over wireless g for typical DVDs. But considering you're going to use ethernet, you shouldn't have any problems even for higher bit-rates. So far I love it and using it for video playback, have had no problems.
aasoror
Feb 19th, 2011, 09:22 PM
I was just about to take the plunge on the new Apple TV and load XBMC on it. However I just stumbled across this thread. Besides the obvious (Apple TV limited to 720p output at the moment) what would be the advantage or disadvantage of the latest Apple TV with XBMC on it compared to this? My primary use will be just for streaming mkv and divx files from my basement over wired gigabit network. This is just for a secondary TV, I have a full blown HTPC hooked up to my main media room (projector).
Apple TV is retailing for $120, while the average ongoing price for the PBO is $50.
The Apple TV interface should be much slicker hands down, not to mention the extras that comes prebuilt like netflix and YT (which can be also added to the PBO but with some effort and time).
But and for your own usage, it all comes down to media playback, and there where it comes pretty obvious the PBO compatibility matrix is way larger than the apple TV. 720p is a deal breaker for most (especially if its a restriction on the media too and not just the output), even the H.264 main profile for the apple TV is 3.1 while not comparable to the 4.1 of the PBO (PBO has the same profile support of your typical bluray player) which is the most common for HD encoding these days.
BTW, the appletv is also 10/100 ethernet.
Here is the playback interface you will get with a firmware crossflashed PBO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4TvuYdnD4c
redgrandam
Feb 19th, 2011, 09:23 PM
I was just about to take the plunge on the new Apple TV and load XBMC on it. However I just stumbled across this thread. Besides the obvious (Apple TV limited to 720p output at the moment) what would be the advantage or disadvantage of the latest Apple TV with XBMC on it compared to this? My primary use will be just for streaming mkv and divx files from my basement over wired gigabit network. This is just for a secondary TV, I have a full blown HTPC hooked up to my main media room (projector).
I run XBMC on our Mac mini on our living room tv and the patriot with medeater in our bedroom. The patriot interface is no competition to what XBMC does. You can get the patriot to look pretty nice but not near as easy as XBMC. For the money patriot can't be beat, but if I were buying something for my big tv it would be apple tv with XBMC.
Ssseth
Feb 20th, 2011, 02:36 PM
I run XBMC on our Mac mini on our living room tv and the patriot with medeater in our bedroom. The patriot interface is no competition to what XBMC does. You can get the patriot to look pretty nice but not near as easy as XBMC. For the money patriot can't be beat, but if I were buying something for my big tv it would be apple tv with XBMC.
Thanks, that's what I was wondering. My wife will be using this as well so it's important I keep it as easy as possible. Guess I'll stick with the Apple TV with XBMC on it then. 720p output is fine to me since 95% of my HD content is 720p anyway. 1080p files are just too darn big.
redgrandam
Feb 20th, 2011, 04:29 PM
Thanks, that's what I was wondering. My wife will be using this as well so it's important I keep it as easy as possible. Guess I'll stick with the Apple TV with XBMC on it then. 720p output is fine to me since 95% of my HD content is 720p anyway. 1080p files are just too darn big.
yeah, I like that XBMC as long as you name the files right it shows them automatically in the library with proper show names, the PBO shows the file names (unless you get into some serious modding like many do). 99% of what I download is XVID avi's, I haven't gotten into many fancy formats and such, someone above did say how the PBO plays more formats. Certainly that would be a major issue to some. I haven't found from what I've been downloading that XBMC won't play it.
In fact, I would suggest that you install XBMC on your PC and try it out, make sure it plays the files you want, otherwise you will be stuck with an Apple TV you won't be able to use the way you wanted. And don't forget you can get an apple TV refurb for a slightly better price than the retail price of them.
Ssseth
Feb 20th, 2011, 05:25 PM
yeah, I like that XBMC as long as you name the files right it shows them automatically in the library with proper show names, the PBO shows the file names (unless you get into some serious modding like many do). 99% of what I download is XVID avi's, I haven't gotten into many fancy formats and such, someone above did say how the PBO plays more formats. Certainly that would be a major issue to some. I haven't found from what I've been downloading that XBMC won't play it.
In fact, I would suggest that you install XBMC on your PC and try it out, make sure it plays the files you want, otherwise you will be stuck with an Apple TV you won't be able to use the way you wanted. And don't forget you can get an apple TV refurb for a slightly better price than the retail price of them.
Thanks for the advice. I've got some Best Buy store credit to use so I'll just get a new one.
wookie
Feb 20th, 2011, 08:22 PM
Apple TV is retailing for $120, while the average ongoing price for the PBO is $50.
The Apple TV interface should be much slicker hands down, not to mention the extras that comes prebuilt like netflix and YT (which can be also added to the PBO but with some effort and time).
But and for your own usage, it all comes down to media playback, and there where it comes pretty obvious the PBO compatibility matrix is way larger than the apple TV. 720p is a deal breaker for most (especially if its a restriction on the media too and not just the output), even the H.264 main profile for the apple TV is 3.1 while not comparable to the 4.1 of the PBO (PBO has the same profile support of your typical bluray player) which is the most common for HD encoding these days.
BTW, the appletv is also 10/100 ethernet.
Here is the playback interface you will get with a firmware crossflashed PBO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4TvuYdnD4c
I cant seem to figure out how to correct plash to the firmware in the video you posted. I put the file on a usb stick and connect it to the PBO. Go through the steps (same as if doing pbo firmware update) it seems to start but then after a little while just boots back into the pbo firmware. Any tips? Ive checked the wiki and such but it doesnt really give easy to understand (at least by my standards) steps for completeing the upgrade.
RastaManMax
Feb 20th, 2011, 08:43 PM
I cant seem to figure out how to correct plash to the firmware in the video you posted. I put the file on a usb stick and connect it to the PBO. Go through the steps (same as if doing pbo firmware update) it seems to start but then after a little while just boots back into the pbo firmware. Any tips? Ive checked the wiki and such but it doesnt really give easy to understand (at least by my standards) steps for completeing the upgrade.
Is your USB stick formatted to FAT32? Try flashing twice to the old PBO firmware then flashing to Medebo. I never tried the one flash route because I heard some people mentioning it's better to flash twice.
edgarb
Feb 21st, 2011, 01:22 AM
im selling my wdtv live plus and buying a apple tv , apple.ca has the refurbs on for 99.99 free shipping
nosnoop
Feb 21st, 2011, 01:43 AM
I understand some of you may be attracted by XBMC on Apple TV.
But I am personally utterly sick of this cat and mouse game in jail breaking Apple device. Maybe AppleTV does not need as much OS upgrade as an iPhone, I don't know. But Apple would try its best to put a stop to this, no doubt. And then it will be back to waiting for the dev team to come up with something to get around it, and so on....
So no thanks, no Apple TV for me.
wookie
Feb 21st, 2011, 08:49 AM
Is your USB stick formatted to FAT32? Try flashing twice to the old PBO firmware then flashing to Medebo. I never tried the one flash route because I heard some people mentioning it's better to flash twice.
Yes I can confirm it was FAT32. I will try flashing the most recent official firmware twice then try again. Just to confirm the one I want to use is the first one located on this page (http://patriot-box-office.wikidot.com/pbo-alternative-custom-firmwares) correct?
Update : 26/1/2011 : 5249 patched (http://www.4shared.com/file/fsUeNeRc/MedeBO_V4_25Jan2011.html)
Thanks
ppl4golf
Feb 21st, 2011, 10:32 AM
@Aasoror :
One quick question...
Does the latest MEBO5249 work on Bootcode 16 ?
TIA!
aasoror
Feb 21st, 2011, 01:28 PM
@Aasoror :
One quick question...
Does the latest MEBO5249 work on Bootcode 16 ?
TIA!
Yes, all semi-official and custom firmwares are bootcode neutral.
BenK
Feb 21st, 2011, 03:27 PM
anyway to make the PBO default to subtitles on?
audit13
Feb 21st, 2011, 03:31 PM
anyway to make the PBO default to subtitles on?
I tried medebo and acrbo. Both will play subtitles by default.
BenK
Feb 21st, 2011, 03:32 PM
I tried medebo and acrbo. Both will play subtitles by default.
i'm using PBO megapack
audit13
Feb 21st, 2011, 03:34 PM
i'm using PBO megapack
Sorry, I never tried the megapack so I can't offer any suggestions.
RastaManMax
Feb 21st, 2011, 03:37 PM
Yes I can confirm it was FAT32. I will try flashing the most recent official firmware twice then try again. Just to confirm the one I want to use is the first one located on this page (http://patriot-box-office.wikidot.com/pbo-alternative-custom-firmwares) correct?
Update : 26/1/2011 : 5249 patched (http://www.4shared.com/file/fsUeNeRc/MedeBO_V4_25Jan2011.html)
Thanks
You need to flash to an older firmware, not the most recent. My PBO came with the most recent firmware so I had to reflash to the old firmware twice and then flash to Medebo.
BenK
Feb 21st, 2011, 04:35 PM
Still no softsub support .... no .mkv animes, sadness.
Bing
Feb 21st, 2011, 08:01 PM
When setting up custom Genre covers (via USB), how do make the covers permanent without having to leave the USB stick attached to the unit?
nosnoop
Feb 21st, 2011, 08:16 PM
Still no softsub support .... no .mkv animes, sadness.
What do you mean by that?
It certainly does.
BobSagget
Feb 21st, 2011, 08:27 PM
Can you view multiple folders from over the network all under 1 folder (ie. "Movies") in PBO?
So when you want to watch a movie on the PBO from your computer it displays all your movies from all 3 drives at once, instead of having to go through each share folder?
BenK
Feb 21st, 2011, 08:50 PM
What do you mean by that?
It certainly does.
it doesn't take subs that are positioned by x-y coordinates. i.e. if sub groups add translations to a poster or some other in-show text. Also seems to be missing characters, semi-colon or colon shows as 'Special Character A' on the subs...
rozsalyib
Feb 22nd, 2011, 10:30 AM
I got mine from TD today, opened it up, looked at the circuit board and it says: M1011RTD1073DD
If I got a C+ chipset shouldn't they have the label on the circuit board ...10373DD C+ or something like that?
I'd rather not install MEDEBO just to see if it has the C+ chipset or not, I would take it back to TD.
I went through pages 201 - 210 of this thread so the packaging label on box says: 1012MPBO4625.
Thanks
audit13
Feb 22nd, 2011, 11:02 AM
I got mine from TD today, opened it up, looked at the circuit board and it says: M1011RTD1073DD
If I got a C+ chipset shouldn't they have the label on the circuit board ...10373DD C+ or something like that?
I'd rather not install MEDEBO just to see if it has the C+ chipset or not, I would take it back to TD.
I went through pages 201 - 210 of this thread so the packaging label on box says: 1012MPBO4625.
Thanks
I have a PBO with a C+ chip but did not see C+ anywhere on the board. It has already been established that the s/n cannot be used to determine whether the unit does or does not have a C+ chip. Your best bet is to load medebo or acrbo to make sure. A C+ chip is not important unless you have content with HD audio.
If you take it back to TD, don't they charge a 15% restocking fee?
rozsalyib
Feb 22nd, 2011, 11:21 AM
Thanks for the quick reply. I knew about the serial number but I wasn't sure about the circuit board. I'll load Medebo tonight.
I have a new AVR so I'd like to have the C+ chipset, it it's not C+ I'll take it back, I gues I have no choice about the 15% restocking fee if that's the case.
audit13
Feb 22nd, 2011, 11:22 AM
Thanks for the quick reply. I knew about the serial number but I wasn't sure about the circuit board. I'll load Medebo tonight.
I have a new AVR so I'd like to have the C+ chipset, it it's not C+ I'll take it back, I gues I have no choice about the 15% restocking fee if that's the case.
Do you have content with HD audio? The C+ chip is only necessary for TrueHD and DTS-HD MA. LPCM, DD, DTS will bitstream to your receiver for decoding and/or playback.
buzzinhornets
Feb 22nd, 2011, 12:14 PM
One, its sold out at Memory Express... but two, how do you price match online?
dorje
Feb 22nd, 2011, 12:42 PM
Is there a website to download rebate form for Tigerdirect. Patriot Memory currently has the $40 mail in rebate promo for PBO until Feb 28,2011.
Tigerdirect promo code is "PAT-10436", i don't mind purchasing from TD but only if i can claim $40 rebate.
Any info?
Super strokey
Feb 22nd, 2011, 12:47 PM
Hey guys will it do netflix in the near future? Im really interested in finding a good unit for that.
rozsalyib
Feb 22nd, 2011, 12:49 PM
Do you have content with HD audio? The C+ chip is only necessary for TrueHD and DTS-HD MA. LPCM, DD, DTS will bitstream to your receiver for decoding and/or playback.
Yes, I have & I'm looking forward to get more before the UBB could cut Acanac's bandwith, but that's another thread.
I'll see my PBO lottery tonight. Cheers.
nosnoop
Feb 22nd, 2011, 01:16 PM
Is there a website to download rebate form for Tigerdirect. Patriot Memory currently has the $40 mail in rebate promo for PBO until Feb 28,2011.
Tigerdirect promo code is "PAT-10436", i don't mind purchasing from TD but only if i can claim $40 rebate.
Any info?
Yes, here:
http://patriotmem.4myrebate.com/Claim/OfferDetailsNewGrid/?Offercd=PAT-10436
aasoror
Feb 22nd, 2011, 02:29 PM
but two, how do you price match online?
Can you read the first post of this thread ?!
Is there a website to download rebate form for Tigerdirect. Patriot Memory currently has the $40 mail in rebate promo for PBO until Feb 28,2011.
Tigerdirect promo code is "PAT-10436", i don't mind purchasing from TD but only if i can claim $40 rebate.
Any info?
Looking at PM website they have a PBO combo on picture on the rebate form are you sure this MIR offer is for the PBO not the PBO+wifi adapter ?
Hey guys will it do netflix in the near future? Im really interested in finding a good unit for that.
PM claimed they are on the netflix certification queue, I wouldn't hold my breath though, yet you can access netflix on your PBO via UPnP server like Playon.tv
Defiant
Feb 22nd, 2011, 03:01 PM
I just wanted to post that I received my rebate today. It took about 5 weeks.
dorje
Feb 22nd, 2011, 03:18 PM
Looking at PM website they have a PBO combo on picture on the rebate form are you sure this MIR offer is for the PBO not the PBO+wifi adapter ?
PM website does have a PBO combo picture on the rebate, but i think they've always used that picture for PBO. If you look at the previous rebate forms from jan and feb, you'll see the same pic on the rebate form on the tigerdirect.ca,
both US and Canada has the $40 rebate going on right now as per the PM website but the rebate is only reflected on the TD US website not the Canadian site and they both have the same item #.
audit13
Feb 22nd, 2011, 03:57 PM
Yes, I have & I'm looking forward to get more before the UBB could cut Acanac's bandwith, but that's another thread.
I'll see my PBO lottery tonight. Cheers.
Those files must be pretty big if they contain HD audio. Good luck.
aasoror
Feb 22nd, 2011, 04:06 PM
Those files must be pretty big if they contain HD audio. Good luck.
Someone is downloading straight 1-1 BR ISOs :) wonder how much can you actually download by July ;)
boonjaca
Feb 22nd, 2011, 04:43 PM
I'm a little lost here, for the PM to get it for $50, am I going to TigerDirect to have them price match memory express?
Thanks.
audit13
Feb 22nd, 2011, 04:48 PM
I'm a little lost here, for the PM to get it for $50, am I going to TigerDirect to have them price match memory express?
Thanks.
Try to get ncix to pm Tigerdirect.ca's price of $89.97 before mir: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5376926&CatId=4678
Link to PBO at ncix: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=44928&vpn=PCMPBO25&manufacture=Patriot
JWL
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:12 PM
Try to get ncix to pm Tigerdirect.ca's price of $89.97 before mir: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5376926&CatId=4678
Why not just buy it from Tigerdirect.ca?
bdckr
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:15 PM
Why not just buy it from Tigerdirect.ca?
No MIR.
redzone
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:19 PM
finally got my rebate. Sent in for it back in December came last week.
JWL
Feb 22nd, 2011, 05:38 PM
No MIR.
Thanks.
There is a TD rebate on 4myrebate.com, hence my confusion.
http://patriotmem.4myrebate.com/Claim/OfferDetailsNewGrid/?Offercd=PAT-10436
aasoror
Feb 22nd, 2011, 06:43 PM
Thanks.
There is a TD rebate on 4myrebate.com, hence my confusion.
http://patriotmem.4myrebate.com/Claim/OfferDetailsNewGrid/?Offercd=PAT-10436
There is indeed a $40 MIR expiring at the 28th as pointed above.
nosnoop
Feb 22nd, 2011, 07:28 PM
There is indeed a $40 MIR expiring at the 28th as pointed above.
It is quite unusual that tigerdirect.ca web page made absolutely no mention of this rebate.
I think someone forgot to put it in; it is mentioned in the .com web page, but no in the .ca one.
usob
Feb 22nd, 2011, 08:45 PM
successfully PM'd Onhop's $80.27 price at NCIX. So, $40.27 After MIR + tax + environ. fee.
onhop patriot box link: http://www.onhop.ca/product/10861569/patriot-bx-office-media-player
aasoror
Feb 22nd, 2011, 08:49 PM
successfully PM'd Onhop's $80.27 price at NCIX. So, $40.27 After MIR + tax + environ. fee.
onhop patriot box link: http://www.onhop.ca/product/10861569/patriot-bx-office-media-player
Nice price .. will update OP
JWL
Feb 22nd, 2011, 08:56 PM
Decided to go ahead with TD. Used the VisaPerks link and then added this D-Link adapter for $19 (D-Link DWA-131 Wireless-N Nano USB Adapter) (refurb) to get my total over $100 for the extra $10 off from VisaPerks.
Completed the rebate form without issue.
JWL
Feb 22nd, 2011, 08:57 PM
successfully PM'd Onhop's $80.27 price at NCIX. So, $40.27 After MIR + tax + environ. fee.
onhop patriot box link: http://www.onhop.ca/product/10861569/patriot-bx-office-media-player
awesome timing :cry:
aasoror
Feb 22nd, 2011, 09:00 PM
awesome timing :cry:
You can always phone and cancel with no penalty (as long as they didn't ship the stuff yet)
boonjaca
Feb 22nd, 2011, 09:02 PM
successfully PM'd Onhop's $80.27 price at NCIX. So, $40.27 After MIR + tax + environ. fee.
onhop patriot box link: http://www.onhop.ca/product/10861569/patriot-bx-office-media-player
Did you do an online price match or in-store? If in-store then can you let us know which one. I was thinking about popping into the woodbine location tonight as it closes in less than an hour. Thanks.
audit13
Feb 22nd, 2011, 09:08 PM
Did you do an online price match or in-store? If in-store then can you let us know which one. I was thinking about popping into the woodbine location tonight as it closes in less than an hour. Thanks.
According to the ncix website, they only have stock at the Markham Warehouse.
usob
Feb 22nd, 2011, 09:09 PM
Did you do an online price match or in-store? If in-store then can you let us know which one. I was thinking about popping into the woodbine location tonight as it closes in less than an hour. Thanks.
ASPM did not work for me, they declined and offered me $49 after mir i think. So, I did an online price match for instore pickup and they accepted it.
*picked up at Markham warehouse, only place that had stock.
bdckr
Feb 22nd, 2011, 09:11 PM
Thanks.
There is a TD rebate on 4myrebate.com, hence my confusion.
http://patriotmem.4myrebate.com/Claim/OfferDetailsNewGrid/?Offercd=PAT-10436Sorry, my bad, only looked at TD page.
packardbell
Feb 23rd, 2011, 01:03 AM
Nice price .. will update OP
I PM NCIX with TD at 89 bucks.
i feel ripped out of 9 bucks now
:confused:
aasoror
Feb 23rd, 2011, 01:23 AM
ASPM did not work for me, they declined and offered me $49 after mir i think. So, I did an online price match for instore pickup and they accepted it.
*picked up at Markham warehouse, only place that had stock.
But the online price match for instore pickup is indeed the ASPM (Advanced Store Price Matching), I think what didn't work for you was the normal online PM (where they end up shipping you your item if the PM went through), NCIX has been building a very bad track in denying online PM and almost all successful PM reported are ASPMs.
audit13
Feb 23rd, 2011, 09:31 AM
Yes, I have & I'm looking forward to get more before the UBB could cut Acanac's bandwith, but that's another thread.
I'll see my PBO lottery tonight. Cheers.
Did you get the C+ chip?
boonjaca
Feb 23rd, 2011, 09:43 AM
Just checked onhop online and it's back up to $93.70, I placed the order late last night, hope they fulfill it at $80.27 but I doubt it.
farewell2633
Feb 23rd, 2011, 10:04 AM
If I only want to watch youtube and movie files from other computers/NAS in home network, which firmware is the best?
usob
Feb 23rd, 2011, 10:38 AM
But the online price match for instore pickup is indeed the ASPM (Advanced Store Price Matching), I think what didn't work for you was the normal online PM (where they end up shipping you your item if the PM went through), NCIX has been building a very bad track in denying online PM and almost all successful PM reported are ASPMs.
No, you can do an online price match for instore pickup as well. I'm positive ASPM did not work because i actually got a txt sent to my cell telling me my ASPM was declined and i was given the $49 after mir offer. Not sure why, but i usually have more luck with online price matching for instore pickup than the ASPM method.
rozsalyib
Feb 23rd, 2011, 10:44 AM
Do you have content with HD audio? The C+ chip is only necessary for TrueHD and DTS-HD MA. LPCM, DD, DTS will bitstream to your receiver for decoding and/or playback.
I didn't win the PBO lottery. I installed yesterday night Medebo to check the chipset.
I already sent it back to Tigerdirect, no restocking fee, only the shipping is lost. I'll get one one more time when others can confirm that they keep getting the C+ chipset.
ppl4golf
Feb 23rd, 2011, 10:58 AM
If I only want to watch youtube and movie files from other computers/NAS in home network, which firmware is the best?
Aasoror's semi-official because you want youtube in HD.
MEBO is out, there is no youtube, just internet radio.
da1nonly_jsa
Feb 23rd, 2011, 11:34 AM
If I only want to watch youtube and movie files from other computers/NAS in home network, which firmware is the best?
I'm currently using the stock firmware... Watching both youtube and movies from NAS.
I had to enable youtube in IMS with the telnet command.
I didnt know you had to change the firmware to get youtube in HD???
Youtube looks fine... is it not in HD?
audit13
Feb 23rd, 2011, 02:46 PM
I didn't win the PBO lottery. I installed yesterday night Medebo to check the chipset.
I already sent it back to Tigerdirect, no restocking fee, only the shipping is lost. I'll get one one more time when others can confirm that they keep getting the C+ chipset.
That's too bad. I have a PBO without he C+ chip. If I want to playback HD audio, I convert the DTS-HD or TrueHD audio to lpcm and remux it with the video.
Bob123456
Feb 23rd, 2011, 02:58 PM
I'm currently using the stock firmware... Watching both youtube and movies from NAS.
I had to enable youtube in IMS with the telnet command.
I didnt know you had to change the firmware to get youtube in HD???
Youtube looks fine... is it not in HD?
Do you know where I can find setup instructions for this? Thanks!
da1nonly_jsa
Feb 23rd, 2011, 03:07 PM
Do you know where I can find setup instructions for this? Thanks!
To Add Youtube to IMS follow the instructions on the Patriot forum found here
http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5550
you'll need to telnet to your pbo and run the command.
tremendouspete
Feb 23rd, 2011, 06:01 PM
I ordered online late last night from NCIX and got a successful PM with the $83 ONHOP price. Picked it up today at the Markham warehouse and grabbed a 2nd for a friend while I was there (PM'ed with the higher ONHOP price, however).
Thanks, OP!
aasoror
Feb 23rd, 2011, 07:15 PM
I ordered online late last night from NCIX and got a successful PM with the $83 ONHOP price. Picked it up today at the Markham warehouse and grabbed a 2nd for a friend while I was there (PM'ed with the higher ONHOP price, however).
Thanks, OP!
No problem,
Enjoy your PBO ..
aasoror
Feb 23rd, 2011, 10:40 PM
$5 shipping for entire order.
$50 after $40 MIR.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=44928&vpn=PCMPBO25&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1281
boonjaca
Feb 23rd, 2011, 11:28 PM
Just picked it up, thanks OP. I'm loving it so far, had no idea it read ISO files, was so happy when it played it.
Now I just have to mod it with the custom firmware
boonjaca
Feb 24th, 2011, 04:46 PM
Hi OP,
I just picked up my PBO yesterday and wanted to update the firmware with you custom one but when I click on your link, it says:
- Firmwares based on P61
- Firmwares based on P05-IMS
How do I find out which one mine is so that I choose the correct one or does it not matter?
Thanks.
aasoror
Feb 24th, 2011, 04:52 PM
They are both safe to use,
but P61 is based on the later firmwares, while P05-IMS is an earlier one with different interface.
Hi OP,
I just picked up my PBO yesterday and wanted to update the firmware with you custom one but when I click on your link, it says:
- Firmwares based on P61
- Firmwares based on P05-IMS
How do I find out which one mine is so that I choose the correct one or does it not matter?
Thanks.
sabelo
Feb 25th, 2011, 01:35 AM
What's the deal with the rebate? The only option is in the form of a Mastercard?
aasoror
Feb 25th, 2011, 02:15 AM
What's the deal with the rebate? The only option is in the form of a Mastercard?
Is that such a big deal ? use it for gas (best way because you get to spend the full amount without the guess work of taxes), groceries or at tim's, $40 is still $40 even when preloaded on a master card :)
sabelo
Feb 25th, 2011, 02:39 AM
Yeah, I guess it's not that big of a deal.. I was wondering, what is the use in having DTS-HD on this box anyways? Most files I plan to play have a bitrate ~500-1500kbps. Is the lack of a C+ chip going to affect me?
aasoror
Feb 25th, 2011, 02:52 AM
Most files I plan to play have a bitrate ~500-1500kbps. Is the lack of a C+ chip going to affect me?
The 1073DD+ chipset isn't related to the bitrates, its related to the ability of the box to pass through 7.1 HD Audio (DTS-HD-MA, Dolby-TrueHD) via HDMI.
So what do you need to make use of 1073DD+ ?
- Source of HD Audio (BR rips).
- Proper setup (7.1 capable HDMI A/V receiver).
What if you have 1073DD without the plus ?
- The box will send core audio (5.1 DTS/DD signal) to your receiver.
Hope that answers your question.
sabelo
Feb 25th, 2011, 03:07 AM
Yes, I think it does. And just to confirm the BR backups would need to be in .m2ts format (20-30gb) which will play on a PBO? and I can't seem to find out whether you can encode HD audio into a mkv, or something that uses less space..
aasoror
Feb 25th, 2011, 03:16 AM
and I can't seem to find out whether you can encode HD audio into a mkv, or something that uses less space..
Yes you can using makemkv (http://makemkv.com/), that said I don't think space reduction would be that much if you would keep the audio in HD.
That said the PBO should be able to read both : straight copy ISO (after region unlocking and decrypting), or MKVs, or m2ts files
sabelo
Feb 25th, 2011, 03:30 AM
I think HD audio isn't ready to go digital yet.. I'll stick with my current chipset. Thanks again to aasoror, and I encourage all to follow the "Stop The Meter" link in his sig.
mtlrabbit
Feb 25th, 2011, 10:55 AM
get my PBO today, test all kind video file and find some .mkv file can't show image, upgrate to new official firmware and problem solved. I have TEW-649 wireless N adaptor, try to connect to my home network, the TEW can detect my network, however, after I input WEP password, the macheine test connecting 1 minute and fail to connect to network. I am sure my TEW is funtional, my net work is funtional as well, anybody can help if I miss anything here. Thanks.
audit13
Feb 25th, 2011, 11:17 AM
get my PBO today, test all kind video file and find some .mkv file can't show image, upgrate to new official firmware and problem solved. I have TEW-649 wireless N adaptor, try to connect to my home network, the TEW can detect my network, however, after I input WEP password, the macheine test connecting 1 minute and fail to connect to network. I am sure my TEW is funtional, my net work is funtional as well, anybody can help if I miss anything here. Thanks.
Does your router use mac filtering?
hamdude_1234
Feb 25th, 2011, 12:43 PM
i have a question..
does each mkv file be in its own folder in order to play or can you put them all in one folder?
thanks
heinz
Feb 25th, 2011, 12:58 PM
get my PBO today, test all kind video file and find some .mkv file can't show image, upgrate to new official firmware and problem solved. I have TEW-649 wireless N adaptor, try to connect to my home network, the TEW can detect my network, however, after I input WEP password, the macheine test connecting 1 minute and fail to connect to network. I am sure my TEW is funtional, my net work is funtional as well, anybody can help if I miss anything here. Thanks.
WEP on wifi N falls back to g speeds. Use wpa2-aes to achieve your best speeds with N wifi.
audit13
Feb 25th, 2011, 02:05 PM
i have a question..
does each mkv file be in its own folder in order to play or can you put them all in one folder?
thanks
You can have them all in one folder.
BobSagget
Feb 25th, 2011, 03:44 PM
Can someone help me out I don't know what I am doing wrong.
I got my box today and immediately put MedeBO on it. I set up my network so I can access my shares from the media library.
I want to set up the Wall format so I added all the shares as shortcuts.
When I go to the media wall I see my 5 share folders but when I open them they are all completely empty. Not sure what I am doing wrong.
I am trying to set it up so that when you go to the Wall i would see just my entire list of MKVs not share folders.
I tried adding shortcuts to MKVs individually but it doesn't let you do that so I am lost.
I will give it another shot later.
Other than that it's pretty slick looking with this custom firmware on it.
I had an issue at the start with 720p movies not even being able to play properly without stuttering but after I reset the box it seems to have fixed it.
RastaManMax
Feb 25th, 2011, 04:07 PM
Can someone help me out I don't know what I am doing wrong.
I got my box today and immediately put MedeBO on it. I set up my network so I can access my shares from the media library.
I want to set up the Wall format so I added all the shares as shortcuts.
When I go to the media wall I see my 5 share folders but when I open them they are all completely empty. Not sure what I am doing wrong.
I am trying to set it up so that when you go to the Wall i would see just my entire list of MKVs not share folders.
I tried adding shortcuts to MKVs individually but it doesn't let you do that so I am lost.
I will give it another shot later.
Other than that it's pretty slick looking with this custom firmware on it.
I had an issue at the start with 720p movies not even being able to play properly without stuttering but after I reset the box it seems to have fixed it.
I got the same stuttering issue. In my case it was because I did a billion things without rebooting the unit. After a clean reboot everything was perfect.
darcmage
Feb 25th, 2011, 04:17 PM
Can someone help me out I don't know what I am doing wrong.
I got my box today and immediately put MedeBO on it. I set up my network so I can access my shares from the media library.
I want to set up the Wall format so I added all the shares as shortcuts.
When I go to the media wall I see my 5 share folders but when I open them they are all completely empty. Not sure what I am doing wrong.
I am trying to set it up so that when you go to the Wall i would see just my entire list of MKVs not share folders.
I tried adding shortcuts to MKVs individually but it doesn't let you do that so I am lost.
I will give it another shot later.
Other than that it's pretty slick looking with this custom firmware on it.
I had an issue at the start with 720p movies not even being able to play properly without stuttering but after I reset the box it seems to have fixed it.
When you add folders to the video wall, make sure you're adding from the shortcuts and not straight from the network browser. Also for some reason, the mkv files will need to be in a sub dir from the actual share. See this guide (http://www.mede8er.org/artwork/temp/VIDEO_WALL_INSTRUCTIONS_V4_25jan2011.pdf) for more info.
BobSagget
Feb 25th, 2011, 07:00 PM
Ran into another issue now.
I created a user account in Windows 7 so I could access my media by logging in from the Patriot Box office. Thought everything was good but every time I turn the box back on it asks me to put in the username/password again. Why isn't it being saved? It's very annoying.
wookie
Feb 25th, 2011, 08:16 PM
Ran into another issue now.
I created a user account in Windows 7 so I could access my media by logging in from the Patriot Box office. Thought everything was good but every time I turn the box back on it asks me to put in the username/password again. Why isn't it being saved? It's very annoying.
i ran into the same thing. instead of going to net and then workgroup or similar go to the my shortcuts folder and you should see your link in there with the saved acct info.
ppl4golf
Feb 25th, 2011, 08:45 PM
Yes, I think it does. And just to confirm the BR backups would need to be in .m2ts format (20-30gb) which will play on a PBO? and I can't seem to find out whether you can encode HD audio into a mkv, or something that uses less space..
Yes you can using makemkv (http://makemkv.com/), that said I don't think space reduction would be that much if you would keep the audio in HD.
That said the PBO should be able to read both : straight copy ISO (after region unlocking and decrypting), or MKVs, or m2ts files
Just so you know...the PBO can play my FULL BLUE RAY rips in FOLDER format as well. This feature is so good it's not even funny. I still have a couple of my discs ripped that don't play properly (vs other boxes that did not play it at all).
audit13
Feb 25th, 2011, 10:02 PM
Yes, I think it does. And just to confirm the BR backups would need to be in .m2ts format (20-30gb) which will play on a PBO? and I can't seem to find out whether you can encode HD audio into a mkv, or something that uses less space..
HD audio (TrueHD and DTS-HD MA) are lossless compression schemes. Based on my personal experience, the PBO will play mkv files with HD audio (TrueHD and DTS-HD MA), m2ts files with HD audio, BDMV folders. In order to bistream HD audio to your receiver, you need a PBO with a C+ chip.
To shrink the file size, you would need to either recode the audio to DTS or DD and compression the video portion.
betamaxman
Feb 25th, 2011, 10:27 PM
I can't seem to get the movie jukebox to work. I have the movies in their own folders and have used thumbgen to create thumbnails, info and a movie sheet for each. I then used yamj installer to create the index file. All is well with the movie wall and the movie sheet, however when I click ok when the movie sheet is displayed I get an error message stating 'unable to locate the movie' . The movie and all others play fine from the browser. Any help would be appreciated. I am using acrbo v7.3.4 4824 and have boot loader 23.
hamdude_1234
Feb 26th, 2011, 08:00 AM
went to canadacomputers to pricematch the ncix price yesterday.
set everthing up and none of my .mkv's are showing in the folder i put them all in..
any suggestions?
betamaxman
Feb 26th, 2011, 12:17 PM
On the bar at the top of the browser window, are you in the movies mode or music or something else?
hamdude_1234
Feb 26th, 2011, 03:21 PM
On the bar at the top of the browser window, are you in the movies mode or music or something else?
i am in movie mode
funy thing is.. i have a ps3 as well being a media player as well. i use mkv2vob to convert my mkv's to a file that the ps3 can detect.
on the ps3 all my mkv.'s come up as unsupprted media and some mkv2vob converted files dont convert properly and i can play on the patriot i get video no sound and on the ps3 i cant get the file to play at all its time display is 0:00/0:00
correct me if i am wrong.. with the patriot i should be able to detect the mkv's automatically?
my setup is:
windows 7 ultimate
pioneer 1018vsx
hdmi from patriot to my BD hdmi input on my receiver
patriot switched to hdmi raw
ppl4golf
Feb 26th, 2011, 04:20 PM
i am in movie mode
funy thing is.. i have a ps3 as well being a media player as well. i use mkv2vob to convert my mkv's to a file that the ps3 can detect.
on the ps3 all my mkv.'s come up as unsupprted media and some mkv2vob converted files dont convert properly and i can play on the patriot i get video no sound and on the ps3 i cant get the file to play at all its time display is 0:00/0:00
correct me if i am wrong.. with the patriot i should be able to detect the mkv's automatically?
my setup is:
windows 7 ultimate
pioneer 1018vsx
hdmi from patriot to my BD hdmi input on my receiver
patriot switched to hdmi raw
Make sure your audio is set to HDMI (H) in the PIO receiver. Or even better, flash MEBO. These machines are for MKVs, there is no MKV that they don't play with the proper latest firmwares. PBO has also become a leader for sound...many HD audio get at least downmixed 5.1.
nosnoop
Feb 26th, 2011, 04:24 PM
set everthing up and none of my .mkv's are showing in the folder i put them all in..
Are the files in USB flash drive/hard drive or internal hard disk or network share?
betamaxman
Feb 26th, 2011, 05:22 PM
I can't seem to get the movie jukebox to work. I have the movies in their own folders and have used thumbgen to create thumbnails, info and a movie sheet for each. I then used yamj installer to create the index file. All is well with the movie wall and the movie sheet, however when I click ok when the movie sheet is displayed I get an error message stating 'unable to locate the movie' . The movie and all others play fine from the browser. Any help would be appreciated. I am using acrbo v7.3.4 4824 and have boot loader 23.
I am thinking my problem is running yamj with the usb drive plugged into my pc. I wonder if this has the files directory as the drive letter windows 7 has it stated as. I tried doing this with the drive plugged into the patriot box and accessing it over my network but yamj though finding it can not write to the drive. I have no problems doing so from explorer. Is there a linux version of yamj or will it work with wine? Will have to give it a try.
fury420
Feb 26th, 2011, 05:42 PM
the fan in my newest PBO (from this xmas) gave up the ghost yesterday, turned it on to hear a grinding high-pitched whine that continued for 10-20min and then slowly went away as it was left on, only to appear again this morning.
anyone here have any experience replacing the fan in these things?
aasoror
Feb 26th, 2011, 05:55 PM
the fan in my newest PBO (from this xmas) gave up the ghost yesterday, turned it on to hear a grinding high-pitched whine that continued for 10-20min and then slowly went away as it was left on, only to appear again this morning.
anyone here have any experience replacing the fan in these things?
do you have any electric shaver blade oil ? couple of drops on the bearing should fix that.
Else you can contact Patriot support and they should be able to send a new fan without a problem.
boonjaca
Feb 26th, 2011, 07:06 PM
Just a question, hope someone can help me. I installed the latest version of Medebo and used YAMJ to medobo converter to try and generate the movie profile page.
When I did it for the mechanic, it displays the pictures and movie description fine but nothing appears for the director, stars or genre.
Thanks in advance, I'm loving this thing so far.
hamdude_1234
Feb 26th, 2011, 07:13 PM
Are the files in USB flash drive/hard drive or internal hard disk or network share?
network share..
thank you
paul_rfd
Feb 26th, 2011, 07:59 PM
Just asking, is that a hot deal ? or a request for an opinion on a potentially hot deal ?!
Video quality seems poor when you compare with Asus or WD solution
audit13
Feb 26th, 2011, 08:03 PM
Just asking, is that a hot deal ? or a request for an opinion on a potentially hot deal ?!
Video quality seems poor when you compare with Asus or WD solution
Did you get a chance to do a direct comparison with the Asus or WD? I compared the PBO using a BD rip of The Matrix and the video quality from the PBO, my htpc, and BD player were all very similar. I certainly can't say that the PBO was poor in comparison to the BD player or htpc.
I thought the Asus, WD, abd PBO all use the same Realtek chip.
BobSagget
Feb 26th, 2011, 08:10 PM
I don't understand why my PBO can't stream 720p over a 100Mbps wired network? It keeps stuttering over and over. I thought a quick reboot would help but it's not. My laptop is having no problems using the same wired connection (using d-link 200Mbps powerline adapters) streaming the movies and (1080p movies) so I don't get why this box is having issues with simple 720p streaming.
Although I am frustrated with the issue above, I do however like this ThumbGen program that was suggested. It creates beautiful looking thumbnails and info for each movie. Thanks for that.
paul_rfd
Feb 26th, 2011, 08:13 PM
Did you get a chance to do a direct comparison with the Asus or WD?
I read a detailed review that says it is the "worst" for the video quality.
Reason I did not buy with MIR rebate.
Do you ask why there is a rebate like this ?
You get what you pay.
226 pages for that stuff is quite insane !
audit13
Feb 26th, 2011, 08:44 PM
I read a detailed review that says it is the "worst" for the video quality.
Reason I did not buy with MIR rebate.
Do you ask why there is a rebate like this ?
You get what you pay.
226 pages for that stuff is quite insane !
For $55 after mir, I've got a unit that bitstreams HD audio with more than acceptable video quality. It also streams 96/24 and 192/24 audio tracks to my receiver for decoding and it comes in a nice aluminum case that can accept an internal 2.5" drive. From what I can tell, neither the WD or Asus can bitstream HD audio, accept an internal drive, or has a nice aluminum case.
Do you have a link to the review? I'd be interested in reading it since it seems to contrast with my opinion of the PBO. Thanks.
paul_rfd
Feb 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM
Do you have a link to the review? I'd be interested in reading it since it seems to contrast with my opinion of the PBO. Thanks.
I agree acceptable video quality for 55$ but not a hot deal. Is it accepable for the rest of your home cinema ? not enough good for my 720p projector.
Sorry, I did not keep the link but you can find with google. comparaison WD Asus and this patriot.
audit13
Feb 26th, 2011, 09:01 PM
I agree acceptable video quality for 55$ but not a hot deal. Is it accepable for the rest of your home cinema ? not enough good for my 720p projector.
Sorry, I did not keep the link but you can find with google. comparaison WD Asus and this patriot.
Yes, it's more than good enough for my setup considering the price. Did you have an opportunity to try the PBO in your system?
aasoror
Feb 26th, 2011, 09:04 PM
Do you have a link to the review? I'd be interested in reading it since it seems to contrast with my opinion of the PBO. Thanks.
Here is the more than a year outdated review (http://gizmodo.com/#!5397986), and below is my comment to it which happens to be conveniently located on third page of this very same thread.
I think this is the review (http://gizmodo.com/5397986/) you have meant. The review states that the picture quality of the PBO is way worse than the FAT, this is simply baseless, because the realtek hardware (1073DD) inside the FAT is the SAME as the PBO and the O!Play.
If the issue was *perhaps* different video drivers, then this argument is no longer current because there has been various different drivers released during the last 6 months.
Here is the most technical review (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/27435-patriot-box-office-media-player-review.html) that you will find for the PBO any where.
check here (http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Patriot-Box-Office-Media-Player-Review/854/1)for another review .. moral of the story, expect exactly similar performance from O!Play, O!Play Air, ACR PlayON and FAT+ because they all have the very same Realtek chipset in there.
WDTV is sigma based and thus have its own set of advantages/issues.
paul_rfd
Feb 26th, 2011, 10:15 PM
Just asking, Why the OP post this stuff in Hot deal ?
audit13
Feb 26th, 2011, 10:41 PM
Just asking, Why the OP post this stuff in Hot deal ?
It's a Hot Deal in my eyes:)
ppl4golf
Feb 26th, 2011, 11:09 PM
I agree acceptable video quality for 55$ but not a hot deal. Is it accepable for the rest of your home cinema ? not enough good for my 720p projector.
Sorry, I did not keep the link but you can find with google. comparaison WD Asus and this patriot.
If it's good enough for me, it's good enough for you...:):):)
nosnoop
Feb 27th, 2011, 12:57 AM
Just asking, Why the OP post this stuff in Hot deal ?
'Cos it is One Hot Deal!
Not sure what your issue with PBO, my PBO performs beautifully, and its picture quality is as good as my Asus O!Play, PS3 and my LG Blu-Ray player.
At $40 to $50, it is a STEAL!
In addition, with MedeBO, you now have the same function as a player currently priced at $200 to $300!
Yes, it is a hot deal for me.
M.D.
Feb 27th, 2011, 03:07 AM
any deals on the wireless usb key for the PBO? I need one.
paul_rfd
Feb 27th, 2011, 06:41 AM
If it's good enough for me, it's good enough for you...:):):)
Why ? because you have a cheap 1080p projector ? :lol:
Like digital camera, the number of pixel is not enough to evaluate the picture quality. Think color for example.
I have a Optima HD72.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/optoma_hd72.htm
MSRP was 2000$
betamaxman
Feb 27th, 2011, 12:31 PM
I can't seem to get the movie jukebox to work. I have the movies in their own folders and have used thumbgen to create thumbnails, info and a movie sheet for each. I then used yamj installer to create the index file. All is well with the movie wall and the movie sheet, however when I click ok when the movie sheet is displayed I get an error message stating 'unable to locate the movie' . The movie and all others play fine from the browser. Any help would be appreciated. I am using acrbo v7.3.4 4824 and have boot loader 23.
At any rate, gave up on it.
I installed v5249 medeBO and love it. I simply renamed the movie sheet jpegs thumbgen generated before to about.jpg and made sure my folder jpegs were small enough added the movie folder to the wall and all is golden.
the MedeBO firmware rocks.
nosnoop
Feb 27th, 2011, 04:33 PM
any deals on the wireless usb key for the PBO? I need one.
For wireless N, if you don't mind waiting a bit, dealextreme (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/super-mini-usb-2-0-802-11n-g-b-150mbps-wifi-wlan-wireless-network-adapter-35897?r=99975858) one at $9.64 (free shipping) is probably one of the cheapest.
If you don't want to wait for a few weeks, and willing to pay a few dollars more, then the Asus (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=111127574&vpn=USB-N10&manufacture=Asus) one at $16.39 is also reasonably priced.
Edit: for those buying a new PBO, NCIX has a new g adapter for $5 and n adapter for $10 when buying together with a new PBO.
fury420
Feb 27th, 2011, 05:20 PM
Why ? because you have a cheap 1080p projector ? :lol:
Like digital camera, the number of pixel is not enough to evaluate the picture quality. Think color for example.
I have a Optima HD72.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/optoma_hd72.htm
MSRP was 2000$
...what does your five year old 720P projector have to do with the video quality on this media player you've never tested?
I read a detailed review that says it is the "worst" for the video quality.
Sorry, I did not keep the link but you can find with google. comparaison WD Asus and this patriot.
detailed review? you mean this single one-liner?
"and its video quality was noticeably the worst of the batch."
I see no picture quality comparisons, not even a description of these video quality issues they claim
They don't even mention if they're playing back HD content, nor if they're using component or HDMI
I've actually got a PBO and an HTPC and noticed no difference in quality between them when playing back identical HD source content once I switched the PBO to 'HDMI Auto' resolution from its default of NTSC
Just asking, Why the OP post this stuff in Hot deal ?
because its a thread for hot deals on the PBO?
$35-40 after rebate for a device with a $120+ MSRP certainly qualifies, and the several hundred posts here seem to agree on its usefulness
andyyuen
Feb 27th, 2011, 05:37 PM
Hello guys,
do you know how to add shortcuts to specific directory.
I have a Dlink NAS on the network, when i am at the NETWORK menu in med8er
i can only add shortcut to the IP
Not sure how to link it to specific volume and then folder within it.
Thanks
MikeyMadness
Feb 27th, 2011, 05:51 PM
Just a question, sorry if it's been asked here already, but this is one hell of a long thread!
If connected to a monitor and powered external speakers, could I use this as a picture viewer (JPGs) and media player (MP3s) at the same time? Basically two streams at once? One being repeating family pictures, the other various MP3 files.
Thanks for any input/ideas.
$50 seems like a good deal to me. I don't need streaming, but having it is a bonus. I would probably just connect a USB thumb drive to it.
aasoror
Feb 27th, 2011, 06:29 PM
For wireless N, if you don't mind waiting a bit, dealextreme (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/super-mini-usb-2-0-802-11n-g-b-150mbps-wifi-wlan-wireless-network-adapter-35897?r=99975858) one at $9.64 (free shipping) is probably one of the cheapest.
If you don't want to wait for a few weeks, and willing to pay a few dollars more, then the Asus (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=111127574&vpn=USB-N10&manufacture=Asus) one at $16.39 is also reasonably priced.
If you are getting one overseas (Meritline / DX) I would recommend getting a 2R/1T (300 mbps receive) which is $16 shipped at both stores (the both adapters linked above are 1R/1T so 150 mbps both ways).
Hello guys,
do you know how to add shortcuts to specific directory.
I have a Dlink NAS on the network, when i am at the NETWORK menu in med8er
i can only add shortcut to the IP
Not sure how to link it to specific volume and then folder within it.
Thanks
Here (http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14141&postcount=23)you are ..
kingkelly
Feb 27th, 2011, 06:35 PM
Just picked up my Patriot Box Office at Canada Computers today! PM with TD and I have until tomorrow for the mail-in rebate.
Nooooow I just need to get it working:facepalm:
My wireless adapter is of course not supported (RT73 chipset). But i've read that theres fixes for those adapters.
How exactly do i get these new drivers on my PBO? It keeps mentioning telnet, but im not sure how to do that on my mac.
Help help please!
aasoror
Feb 27th, 2011, 06:38 PM
If connected to a monitor and powered external speakers, could I use this as a picture viewer (JPGs) and media player (MP3s) at the same time? Basically two streams at once? One being repeating family pictures, the other various MP3 files.
At one time (one of the earlier firmware releases) you would be able to place 1 mp3 inside the photo folder and it would work as a background music for slide show.
Thats as far as it goes.
My wireless adapter is of course not supported (RT73 chipset). But i've read that theres fixes for those adapters.
How exactly do i get these new drivers on my PBO?
The following RALink adapters can be added (RT2571,RT2571W,RT2572,RT2573,RT2671,RT2770,RT2870 ,RT307x and RT3572USB).
I don't see RT73 among those, but the how-to is linked in the OP.
It keeps mentioning telnet, but im not sure how to do that on my mac.
Here you are (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=telnet+for+mac).
andyyuen
Feb 27th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Here (http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14141&postcount=23)you are ..
Thanks
kingkelly
Feb 27th, 2011, 06:49 PM
Ah in another thread on their forums it mentions it supports it. (RT2573=RT73 chipsets)
Now I know terminal is used for telnet, but I guess im stumped at finding the IP address of my PBO so i can telnet to it.
aasoror
Feb 27th, 2011, 08:54 PM
Ah in another thread on their forums it mentions it supports it. (RT2573=RT73 chipsets)
Now I know terminal is used for telnet, but I guess im stumped at finding the IP address of my PBO so i can telnet to it.
You know you need to be connected to the network to get an IP and telnet, and your wifi adapter isn't compatible as of yet, so you need a new compatible adapter or a LAN cable before you can load these wifi adapter drivers.
hamdude_1234
Feb 27th, 2011, 09:05 PM
So am I better off putting all my mkv files on an external hard drive than rather accessing them through the network? I'm just baffled cause I have one folder with line 30 mkv files in it and neither the ps3 or pbo detect them inky some mo4's and. Avi files
aasoror
Feb 27th, 2011, 09:15 PM
So am I better off putting all my mkv files on an external hard drive than rather accessing them through the network? I'm just baffled cause I have one folder with line 30 mkv files in it and neither the ps3 or pbo detect them inky some mo4's and. Avi files
If they are seen on USB they should be seen without a problem over the network.
The problem with network streaming is YMMV for very high bitrate MKVs and for BR-ISOs (YMMV depends on your network infrastructure).
If the files can be seen on USB, then make sure they are properly shared over the network, sometime a folder is shared while the individual files inside are not.
matrixfwd
Feb 28th, 2011, 01:44 AM
I've been using wifi to access my laptop with windows 7. I usually store my files in the public network folder and had no problems accessing. Today when trying to get into the folder from my PBO, it asked for my netid and password? I don't have one though. When pressing enter, OK, it just gave me a login error and booted me out to the main net folder. Any idea? I tried going into windows 7 to make sure the network sharing was all on...
bst
Feb 28th, 2011, 02:02 AM
I've been using wifi to access my laptop with windows 7. I usually store my files in the public network folder and had no problems accessing. Today when trying to get into the folder from my PBO, it asked for my netid and password? I don't have one though. When pressing enter, OK, it just gave me a login error and booted me out to the main net folder. Any idea? I tried going into windows 7 to make sure the network sharing was all on...
I have the same problem. I can access these files using my WDTV Live but not PBO. However, the PBO can access the files stored in my Qnap NAS without any problem, just doesn't work w/ Win7
silvermist99
Feb 28th, 2011, 02:44 PM
ordered on friday with markham warehouse pickup. how long does that usually take for the confirmation email ?
audit13
Feb 28th, 2011, 02:48 PM
ordered on friday with markham warehouse pickup. how long does that usually take for the confirmation email ?
It shouldn't take that long. If you can see the order on your account, you could call the Markham warehouse to confirm stock and just drop by.
ppl4golf
Feb 28th, 2011, 03:40 PM
Why ? because you have a cheap 1080p projector ? :lol:
Like digital camera, the number of pixel is not enough to evaluate the picture quality. Think color for example.
I have a Optima HD72.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/optoma_hd72.htm
MSRP was 2000$
You can make a case of the 8-bit vs 12-bit color depth. That's about the only disadvantage on the PBO.
Stating Asus/FAT+ are better PQ than that the PBO is just internet BS you read without actually processing the information in the cerebrum...absolute BS as the stuff inside are basically the same. The PQ is very, very slightly better in the WDTV Live. I have both and that effect is just barely noticeable.
If you pretend to be elitist and think $50 is not HOT for this box, I can't fault you as you can find a very slight PQ difference. WDTV Live maybe a little better in that case but it costs twice as much but it does only half as much:).
BTW, the Optoma HD72 is worth $350 used. My Optoma SVGA HD30 (yeah $2000 MSRP when it came out LOL) is probably about $200. These boxes far exceeded ANYTHING these line of projectors require...as long as your video material is 720p or better.
M.D.
Feb 28th, 2011, 04:24 PM
Can I just plug any external hdd into the PBO and it'll detect all the files?
Phils
Feb 28th, 2011, 04:31 PM
You can make a case of the 8-bit vs 12-bit color depth. That's about the only disadvantage on the PBO.
Stating Asus/FAT+ are better PQ than that the PBO is just internet BS you read without actually processing the information in the cerebrum...absolute BS as the stuff inside are basically the same. The PQ is very, very slightly better in the WDTV Live. I have both and that effect is just barely noticeable.
If you pretend to be elitist and think $50 is not HOT for this box, I can't fault you as you can find a very slight PQ difference. WDTV Live maybe a little better in that case but it costs twice as much but it does only half as much:).
BTW, the Optoma HD72 is worth $350 used. My Optoma SVGA HD30 (yeah $2000 MSRP when it came out LOL) is probably about $200. These boxes far exceeded ANYTHING these line of projectors require...as long as your video material is 720p or better.
I have a Live and I have a pbo on it's way. Now you've peaked my curiosity. What did you mean by "it does only half as much"? What do I have to look forward to that I can't do on my WDTV Live?
ppl4golf
Feb 28th, 2011, 09:01 PM
I have a Live and I have a pbo on it's way. Now you've peaked my curiosity. What did you mean by "it does only half as much"? What do I have to look forward to that I can't do on my WDTV Live?
It is an slight exaggeration. WDTV Live is mightily capable, does DVR-MS that no one else does. Bitstream TrueHD. The basic internet apps in the stock firmware is also very good save no youtube in HD.
From a user POV, PBO is the best because it can jump to a certain time of the video clip, instant replay and commercial skip, a breeze to change any SETUP parameters and return to exactly where you left off. RMVB can be important to many. On the go use of the PBO is unmatched with the built-in composite jacks and the ability to put a HDD inside.
RastaManMax
Feb 28th, 2011, 09:37 PM
It is an slight exaggeration. WDTV Live is mightily capable, does DVR-MS that no one else does. Bitstream TrueHD. The basic internet apps in the stock firmware is also very good save no youtube in HD.
From a user POV, PBO is the best because it can jump to a certain time of the video clip, instant replay and commercial skip, a breeze to change any SETUP parameters and return to exactly where you left off. RMVB can be important to many. On the go use of the PBO is unmatched with the built-in composite jacks and the ability to put a HDD inside.
How do you skip to any point in the file if you're using Medebo? It was extremely annoying when I left the Godfather playing accidentally while talking on the phone. I had to FF at 32X to get back to where I wanted.
jpleau
Feb 28th, 2011, 10:26 PM
How do you skip to any point in the file if you're using Medebo? It was extremely annoying when I left the Godfather playing accidentally while talking on the phone. I had to FF at 32X to get back to where I wanted.
ther's two ways to do it
1. Press the GoTo button on the remote, you can use the up/down arrows to choose the minute to go to and then hit OK
or
2. Hit any number key, then you will see the time bar, press any number to go to that minute (i.e. hit 55 to go to minute 55, 8 to go to minute 8, 94 to go to 1h34min mark)
murjaan
Feb 28th, 2011, 10:40 PM
I would appreciate if anyone can help
I have PBO and Sony wireless headset(model: MDR-RF925R)
My Sony wireless works fine with Rogers box and sharp aqua TV.
But my PBO will not work on Sony wireless headset, no audio.
PBO To tv connecting via HDMI cable.
Rogers box to tv connecting via HDMI
Sony headset to tv via component cable
Thanks.
audit13
Feb 28th, 2011, 11:29 PM
I would appreciate if anyone can help
I have PBO and Sony wireless headset(model: MDR-RF925R)
My Sony wireless works fine with Rogers box and sharp aqua TV.
But my PBO will not work on Sony wireless headset, no audio.
PBO To tv connecting via HDMI cable.
Rogers box to tv connecting via HDMI
Sony headset to tv via component cable
Thanks.
Is the PBO's audio set to lpcm?
ppl4golf
Mar 1st, 2011, 02:04 AM
How do you skip to any point in the file if you're using Medebo? It was extremely annoying when I left the Godfather playing accidentally while talking on the phone. I had to FF at 32X to get back to where I wanted.
ther's two ways to do it
1. Press the GoTo button on the remote, you can use the up/down arrows to choose the minute to go to and then hit OK
or
2. Hit any number key, then you will see the time bar, press any number to go to that minute (i.e. hit 55 to go to minute 55, 8 to go to minute 8, 94 to go to 1h34min mark)
You've been thanked. Never know there is the second way LOL
buzzinhornets
Mar 1st, 2011, 10:31 AM
Hi I bought the PBO from NCIX last week... at the time it was a $40 MIR I think... now I can't find that rebate form... anyone have a link?
audit13
Mar 1st, 2011, 10:35 AM
Hi I bought the PBO from NCIX last week... at the time it was a $40 MIR I think... now I can't find that rebate form... anyone have a link?
Try here: http://www.mirhelp.com/patriot/patriot-rebates-february-15-28-ncix-exclusive
murjaan
Mar 1st, 2011, 10:37 AM
Originally Posted by murjaan
I would appreciate if anyone can help
I have PBO and Sony wireless headset(model: MDR-RF925R)
My Sony wireless works fine with Rogers box and sharp aqua TV.
But my PBO will not work on Sony wireless headset, no audio.
PBO To tv connecting via HDMI cable.
Rogers box to tv connecting via HDMI
Sony headset to tv via component cable
Thanks.
Is the PBO's audio set to lpcm?
It's set on HDMI LPCM MULTI CH
I believe I tried all options but didn't reboot the unit after
audit13
Mar 1st, 2011, 11:00 AM
It's set on HDMI LPCM MULTI CH
I believe I tried all options but didn't reboot the unit after
If you're feeding it straight to your tv via hdmi, are you getting sound from your tv's internal speakers?
murjaan
Mar 1st, 2011, 11:22 AM
If you're feeding it straight to your tv via hdmi, are you getting sound from your tv's internal speakers?
Yes.
audit13
Mar 1st, 2011, 11:30 AM
Yes.
Hmm, I'm at a loss as to why some of your hdmi sources work and the PBO doesn't. Are you able to connect an optical cable between your PBO and the tv?
ppl4golf
Mar 1st, 2011, 11:51 AM
Hmm, I'm at a loss as to why some of your hdmi sources work and the PBO doesn't. Are you able to connect an optical cable between your PBO and the tv?
This sure WILL NOT do anything...
ppl4golf
Mar 1st, 2011, 11:59 AM
@mrujaan
Since you're not taking advantage of the surround sound anyways, you may want to try connect the red/white audio to the HDMI+analog audio input of the TV and that might work. I am also at a total lost why you wound get sound to the TV but not to the headphone.
Originally Posted by murjaan
I would appreciate if anyone can help
I have PBO and Sony wireless headset(model: MDR-RF925R)
My Sony wireless works fine with Rogers box and sharp aqua TV.
But my PBO will not work on Sony wireless headset, no audio.
PBO To tv connecting via HDMI cable.
Rogers box to tv connecting via HDMI
Sony headset to tv via component cable
Thanks.
Is the PBO's audio set to lpcm?
It's set on HDMI LPCM MULTI CH
I believe I tried all options but didn't reboot the unit after
If you're feeding it straight to your tv via hdmi, are you getting sound from your tv's internal speakers?
Yes.
Hmm, I'm at a loss as to why some of your hdmi sources work and the PBO doesn't. Are you able to connect an optical cable between your PBO and the tv?
ninja6o4
Mar 1st, 2011, 12:12 PM
Just something to try - swap your PBO hdmi with your cable box HDMI (so that it's swapped on the TV, too). Maybe the hdmi port on the tv is wacked out?
It really doesn't make any sense that the tv speakers would have sound but your headphones don't when you plug them in - regardless of what input or equipment you have plugged in.
Phils
Mar 1st, 2011, 09:05 PM
Originally Posted by murjaan
I would appreciate if anyone can help
I have PBO and Sony wireless headset(model: MDR-RF925R)
My Sony wireless works fine with Rogers box and sharp aqua TV.
But my PBO will not work on Sony wireless headset, no audio.
PBO To tv connecting via HDMI cable.
Rogers box to tv connecting via HDMI
Sony headset to tv via component cable
I know with some electronics like the SA8300HD, once you use HDMI out, it shuts off analog signals so only HDMI will work. The idea is that it's a way to ensure HDCP is used. Could that be what's happening? One way to find out is not use HDMI and see if they work. Then if it does you have a decision to make.
joo
Mar 1st, 2011, 09:11 PM
Originally Posted by murjaan
I would appreciate if anyone can help
<snip>
Sony headset to tv via component cable
<snip>
I believe I tried all options but didn't reboot the unit after
Really?
I thought component was for video, and you're expecting sound out?
Even if you're connecting the headset to the RCA audio connectors, I think these would be audio in only.
What model TV is it, so we can check if it has audio out.
packardbell
Mar 1st, 2011, 09:21 PM
got my box today so now i need to flash it?
RastaManMax
Mar 1st, 2011, 10:00 PM
got my box today so now i need to flash it?
You don't need to flash anything. It just looks way better if you do. The stock firmware (even the latest one) just looks bad and doesn't have as many features.
Flashing is very simple, just remember to:
1) Hook up via component (or you won't be able to see the flashing status)
1a) Try it out on the stock firmware to make sure that its playing properly
2) Downflash to P02, (do it twice just to be sure since it takes only a couple minutes at most)
3) Flash up to the latest Medebo and test it out
4) After you flash up to Medebo, download y2m, follow the naming conventions and build your movie wall
5) Switch back to HDMI
I found all the detailed instructions in this thread, somebody went through and made a good write up for it. The hardest time I had was in finding how to share files properly with the PBO but on the patriot forums, somebody posted the appropriate settings.
packardbell
Mar 1st, 2011, 10:32 PM
You don't need to flash anything. It just looks way better if you do. The stock firmware (even the latest one) just looks bad and doesn't have as many features.
Flashing is very simple, just remember to:
1) Hook up via component (or you won't be able to see the flashing status)
1a) Try it out on the stock firmware to make sure that its playing properly
2) Downflash to P02, (do it twice just to be sure since it takes only a couple minutes at most)
3) Flash up to the latest Medebo and test it out
4) After you flash up to Medebo, download y2m, follow the naming conventions and build your movie wall
5) Switch back to HDMI
I found all the detailed instructions in this thread, somebody went through and made a good write up for it. The hardest time I had was in finding how to share files properly with the PBO but on the patriot forums, somebody posted the appropriate settings.
so i download this flash and do it twice.
ES-51-283G-PCMPBO25-P02.rar - Nov 30, 2009
then flash the latest Medebo
MedeBO_V4_25Jan2011.rar
sorry for all the noob questions, i read the posts and link on the first page already.
aasoror
Mar 1st, 2011, 10:39 PM
so i download this flash and do it twice.
ES-51-283G-PCMPBO25-P02.rar - Nov 30, 2009
then flash the latest Medebo
MedeBO_V4_25Jan2011.rar
sorry for all the noob questions, i read the posts and link on the first page already.
Actually you can skip the P02 downgrade this is for those upgrading to the one of the semi-official megapacks.
Just go straight to MedeBO from the upgrade menu.
ppl4golf
Mar 1st, 2011, 11:08 PM
You don't need to flash anything. It just looks way better if you do. The stock firmware (even the latest one) just looks bad and doesn't have as many features.
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I found all the detailed instructions in this thread, somebody went through and made a good write up for it. The hardest time I had was in finding how to share files properly with the PBO but on the patriot forums, somebody posted the appropriate settings.
Actually, the MEBO has better SPDIF function if you do use it.
It has no web-based videos, only internet radio which is actually quite handy.
Plamsa modes to tone down the whites in the menu...believe it or not, it is a very nice touch.
packardbell
Mar 2nd, 2011, 12:02 AM
Actually you can skip the P02 downgrade this is for those upgrading to the one of the semi-official megapacks.
Just go straight to MedeBO from the upgrade menu.
so i copy the medebo image file to the usb and then install from there?:confused:
nosnoop
Mar 2nd, 2011, 12:04 AM
Actually, the MEBO has better SPDIF function if you do use it.
It has no web-based videos, only internet radio which is actually quite handy.
Plamsa modes to tone down the whites in the menu...believe it or not, it is a very nice touch.
I also love MedeBO's little eyes "Watched Indicator".
Great for watching TV series!
Otherwise, it's hard to keep track of which episode we have watched and which one we haven't.
aasoror
Mar 2nd, 2011, 03:12 AM
Check the firmwares section in the PBO wiki (linked below).
If you were on P61R3 please downgrade first to P02 or any ACRBO/MedBO before upgrading.
All other boxes, just go from the menu of your current firmware.
BC18+ BOXES ONLY
Enjoy ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=302yNtz4H7Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpZsW14xHBU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQRGavc1jbQ
packardbell
Mar 2nd, 2011, 09:47 AM
my system revision is P0020BC18-6L:confused:
audit13
Mar 2nd, 2011, 10:29 AM
my system revision is P0020BC18-6L:confused:
Are you sure it is an L at the end? I think it should be the number 1 which means you are running firmware 61.
To determine your boot code, you need to look at the values under Bootup and Bootcode. It will look similar to this: Bootup: 27. Bootcode: 0000.0202.0027.
pepperMonkey
Mar 2nd, 2011, 03:26 PM
Hmm...I'm definitely one of those that like the Medebo UI better than ACRBO...too bad I can't seem to get the wireless working with Medebo. It works without a hitch with ACRBO but no matter how many times I try (either doing the wireless security or reflashing) it just doesn't like Medebo. Oh, got the Patriot wireless USB adapter. And yes, I did reflash twice with P02 before any other firmware. Oh well...no idea what is wrong but I guess I'll have to live with ACRBO.
redgrandam
Mar 2nd, 2011, 03:40 PM
With MedeBO is there a trick to changing the font? The option is in there but doesn't give any choices. I would just like to make the font a little larger as it is hard to read on a smaller LCD TV....
packardbell
Mar 2nd, 2011, 03:55 PM
Are you sure it is an L at the end? I think it should be the number 1 which means you are running firmware 61.
To determine your boot code, you need to look at the values under Bootup and Bootcode. It will look similar to this: Bootup: 27. Bootcode: 0000.0202.0027.
maybe i need reading glasses.:(
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h343/packardbell2nhand/patriot%20POB/DSCN0048.jpg
ppl4golf
Mar 2nd, 2011, 03:57 PM
A,
Does ACRBO give Toronto weather ??
Check the firmwares section in the PBO wiki (linked below).
If you were on P61R3 please downgrade first to P02 or any ACRBO/MedBO before upgrading.
All other boxes, just go from the menu of your current firmware.
BC18+ BOXES ONLY
Enjoy ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=302yNtz4H7Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpZsW14xHBU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQRGavc1jbQ
audit13
Mar 2nd, 2011, 04:07 PM
I don't know why but even the latest acrbo firmware doesn't bistream HD audio but medebo bitstreams perfectly.
aasoror
Mar 2nd, 2011, 04:52 PM
A,
Does ACRBO give Toronto weather ??
Yes, every single Canadian city featured in yahoo weather is there.
x51v
Mar 2nd, 2011, 05:57 PM
"ACRBO 2115 Euro" wondering if we can edit *.rss and add some internet TV channel, just like the Semiofficial Firmwares. thank you.
pepperMonkey
Mar 2nd, 2011, 08:21 PM
Hmm...alright, spent too much time on this already but...
My PBO does not work with my Patriot Wireless USB adapter for P61, the semi-official P61, Medebo (v4 Jan 25 11), ACRBO (v7.3.4 r3582).
It seems to ONLY work with Playon!HD ACRBO v7.3.4 r4824.
I tested firmware several times. r4824 worked each and every time but the others nada.
Note: I did flash with P02 twice before I flashed with the others.
The only thing different with the setup of wireless between all the firmware from what I can see is that r4824 let you save the settings before testing the connection after inserting the key. All the others just started testing after pressing OK.
Anyone have any ideas why the wireless doesn't work with anything other than r4824?
aasoror
Mar 2nd, 2011, 08:47 PM
"ACRBO 2115 Euro" wondering if we can edit *.rss and add some internet TV channel, just like the Semiofficial Firmwares. thank you.
Well unfortunately not as easy as the semi-officials, the file system of this firmware (unlike the semi-officials) is read only file system (and can't be remounted).
The only way around this is by copying whatever file you want to edit to a writable space like "/usr/local/etc/" make your edits then do and overmount on the original file "mount --bind /newlocation/newfile /oldlocation/oldfile"
once satisfied with the end results ad the mount command to your startup script /usr/local/etc/rcS
Hope that helps,
pfdude
Mar 2nd, 2011, 09:26 PM
I've tried a few newer firmwares and they all seem to randomly reboot my PBO after about 4-5 minutes. Is anybody else experiencing this?
packardbell
Mar 2nd, 2011, 09:43 PM
I've tried a few newer firmwares and they all seem to randomly reboot my PBO after about 4-5 minutes. Is anybody else experiencing this?
i searched on youtube for some educational vides on how to flash the BOX but no dice.:(
aasoror
Mar 2nd, 2011, 09:53 PM
i searched on youtube for some educational vides on how to flash the BOX but no dice.:(
because there is nothing in it worthy a video on youtube, its just a few steps procedure that should take about 3~5 minutes.
The instructions are on the official firmware download page (http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2131) in Patriot memory support forums.
Best of luck,
ppl4golf
Mar 2nd, 2011, 10:28 PM
WOW!
I just flashed the ACRBO and I can't believe how bad everything is...the official PBO firmware is a champ compared to it.
Back to MEBO...MEBO is the most pleasant to use.
Menace
Mar 2nd, 2011, 10:49 PM
You just killed my curiosity on Acrbo.
WOW!
I just flashed the ACRBO and I can't believe how bad everything is...the official PBO firmware is a champ compared to it.
Back to MEBO...MEBO is the most pleasant to use.
kingkelly
Mar 2nd, 2011, 10:51 PM
aha same. that was easy...
Are the youtube vids a few posts up of ACRBO? Because that looks pretty sweet to me
aasoror
Mar 2nd, 2011, 10:56 PM
WOW!
I just flashed the ACRBO and I can't believe how bad everything is...the official PBO firmware is a champ compared to it.
Back to MEBO...MEBO is the most pleasant to use.
Man are you sure we are talking about the same thing ?
The only problem with GUI is that its too much for the hardware to handle with the current SDK thus its sluggish,
Have you switched to 720p/1080p interface ? menu overlay during video playback is enough to make GUI 1.0 (on which the MedeBO/PBO official are based) look like a high school project (IMHO).
http://www.playonhd.com/press/img/playon!gui2.0/gui_inmovie_subtitles.jpg
http://www.playonhd.com/press/img/playon!gui2.0/gui_mainpage.jpg
162
Mar 2nd, 2011, 11:00 PM
Very nice gui, rate it better than medo, just have to figure out how to load movie sheets like above anyone help? link searches are vague.. want latest versions to use. thanks
aasoror
Mar 2nd, 2011, 11:05 PM
Are the youtube vids a few posts up of ACRBO? Because that looks pretty sweet to me
They are indeed of the latest ACRBO (because there is several ACRBO's on the wiki).
just have to figure out how to load movie sheets like above anyone help? link searches are vague.. want latest versions to use. thanks
Same here, didn't have enough time to test it, but apparently it works like the earlier ACRBOs jukeboxes.
Load the latest YAMJ installer from here (http://www.playonhd.com/en/?upn=support).
Run it and point it to your media and let it run, the end result should be a jukebox accessible from your jukebox menu.
162
Mar 2nd, 2011, 11:57 PM
Load the latest YAMJ installer from here (http://www.playonhd.com/en/?upn=support).
Run it and point it to your media and let it run, the end result should be a jukebox accessible from your jukebox menu.
Thanks worked like a charm!
kingkelly
Mar 2nd, 2011, 11:58 PM
Boom im a pro now, just installed ACRBO on my box.
Looooooks nice and all, but that stinker is damn slow. Are they going to fix the sluggishness or is this just the price we pay for some good looks.
aasoror
Mar 3rd, 2011, 12:04 AM
Boom im a pro now, just installed ACRBO on my box.
Looooooks nice and all, but that stinker is damn slow. Are they going to fix the sluggishness or is this just the price we pay for some good looks.
If you check the real thread on ACR forums, they will be working on it on the next release, they just needed to shut up the complaining crowds :)
part of the slowness is due to continuous indexing/scanning, be sure to turn it off.
second part is because of the high compression rates used by the GUI visual items (menus, boxes, background ..) the developers said they will try using a less resource intensive items for the next beta.
ppl4golf
Mar 3rd, 2011, 12:59 AM
Man are you sure we are talking about the same thing ?
The only problem with GUI is that its too much for the hardware to handle with the current SDK thus its sluggish,
Have you switched to 720p/1080p interface ? menu overlay during video playback is enough to make GUI 1.0 (on which the MedeBO/PBO official are based) look like a high school project (IMHO).
http://www.playonhd.com/press/img/playon!gui2.0/gui_inmovie_subtitles.jpg
http://www.playonhd.com/press/img/playon!gui2.0/gui_mainpage.jpg
Yeah I loaded and unloaded it :)
It is the general navigation that I don't like. I didn't like the slowness but it shouldn't be as bad with media scan set to off (yes, it drove me crazy LOL).
There are many good things though...I got weather to work, youtube seems to be in HD. I don't get into too much artwork and stuff so I won't take advantage of this version.
BTW - It scared the crap out of me because I could not flash it back to MEBO...I had to do P02 twice in a row and it got out, and then MEBO....wheeeew:):)
packardbell
Mar 3rd, 2011, 03:40 PM
I have just flashed to the latest Medebo and I guess there is no more RSS feeds?
I see in the AC Ryan youtube there is youtube, youku, yahoo, etc....
do I need to flash that firmware?:(
sorry for all this noobie questions, i'm not to tech savvy in this area, give a car to work on any day.
Avenger
Mar 3rd, 2011, 08:04 PM
Waiting for a port!
New announcement: MED500X - MED400X Firmware v4.0.4 - 3 March2011 (LATEST STABLE RELEASE)
Changelog from V4
1. Bootloader updater not working - should update to #26 - fixed
2. Large size FAT32 USB Hard Drive not working - fixed
3. HFS Volume link to Video Wall not working - fixed
4. No audio .mov container has H264 codec + PCM audio - fixed
5. Video Wall image quality folder.jpg & about.jpg - fixed
6. Video Wall Navigation bug - one movie on last page - fixed
7. Video Wall increased max folder.jpg size to 100k
8. Video Wall speed "next page" - fixed
9. Watched Indicator on root of HDD - fixed
10. HDD Format no name - fixed
11. IR Interference from other remotes - fixed
12. File Manager copy to protected folder - fixed
13. Web Remote enabled by default - fixed
14. Slidshow Playlist Option - fixed
15. HFS Volume mask System files ie .fseventsd .Trashes .Spotlight-V100 - fixed
16. Video Wall MAC - .AppleDouble folder problem - fixed
17. Ken Burns ettect in Picture Slide Show not working - fixed
18. m3u Playlist not working with "Umlauts" characters - fixed
19. Focus / Unfocus Series View Video Wall hard to see the focus - fixed
20. Screensaver artwork changed
21. Screensaver movement not smooth MP3 play - improved
22. Screensaver during slideshow - fixed
23. Screensaver shows when playing multiple short video in a folder - fixed
24. Screensaver appears in picture slideshow - fixed
25. Older DD hardware cannot switch MED500x off with front on/off button - fixed
26. Open image and press Zoom+ and image zooms to 16x - It should start with 2x - fixed
27. File Manager "Move" function not working - fixed
28. Protected folder in Media Library not protected in Video Wall - Fixed
29. MP4 not working from video wall "www123" profile Sony PSP Codec ID: MSNV. Works from Media Library - fixed
30 No audio .mov container has H264 codec + PCM audio - fixed
murjaan
Mar 3rd, 2011, 09:52 PM
Just something to try - swap your PBO hdmi with your cable box HDMI (so that it's swapped on the TV, too). Maybe the hdmi port on the tv is wacked out?
It really doesn't make any sense that the tv speakers would have sound but your headphones don't when you plug them in - regardless of what input or equipment you have plugged in.
You were right. It was bad HDMI.
I plugged in a new HDMI and it worked perfect.
The old HDMI it had a crack on the side.
That was strange one.
Thank you all
aasoror
Mar 4th, 2011, 12:32 AM
Waiting for a port!
New announcement: MED500X - MED400X Firmware v4.0.4 - 3 March2011 (LATEST STABLE RELEASE)
Such a demanding RFD'er :)
Its out, check the wiki ..
Enjoy,
aasoror
Mar 4th, 2011, 12:44 AM
Get it for $60 after PMing @ ME/NCIX for $85 (Infonec price) then apply the $25 MIR.
Links in OP ..
nedjel
Mar 4th, 2011, 02:22 AM
Thanks for the great thread!!!!!!!!!!
nosnoop
Mar 4th, 2011, 04:10 AM
Such a demanding RFD'er :)
Its out, check the wiki ..
I think we are spoiled :)
THANKS!!!
bullocks
Mar 4th, 2011, 05:44 AM
So is NCIX not PM'ing for sure?
Avenger
Mar 4th, 2011, 07:14 AM
Such a demanding RFD'er :)
Its out, check the wiki ..
Enjoy,
Thanks - not my fault the bar has been set so high in the past ;)
darcmage
Mar 4th, 2011, 08:48 AM
Such a demanding RFD'er :)
Its out, check the wiki ..
Enjoy,
What's the best way to update from the older Medebo firmware? Flash back to P02 or just upgrade normally?
Menace
Mar 4th, 2011, 09:13 AM
Just flash with the new update.
What's the best way to update from the older Medebo firmware? Flash back to P02 or just upgrade normally?
packardbell
Mar 4th, 2011, 09:13 AM
What's the best way to update from the older Medebo firmware? Flash back to P02 or just upgrade normally?
yes would like confirmation on this? P02 again then the newest medobo?
caro-qc
Mar 4th, 2011, 09:43 AM
Just asking, Why the OP post this junk in Hot deal ?
smg669
Mar 4th, 2011, 09:58 AM
Just asking, Why the OP post this junk in Hot deal ?
Go away.
Asmegin
Mar 4th, 2011, 10:01 AM
Go away.
+1
kiasu
Mar 4th, 2011, 10:04 AM
Just asking, Why the OP post this junk in Hot deal ?
Just asking, Why do you post your junk in this thread?
stev3-o
Mar 4th, 2011, 11:50 AM
cause he's a french fry
packardbell
Mar 4th, 2011, 12:41 PM
cause he's a french fry
no because he's a poutine.:facepalm:
pepperMonkey
Mar 4th, 2011, 01:19 PM
no because he's a poutine.:facepalm:
Don't knock the all mighty poutine! :)
aasoror
Mar 4th, 2011, 01:29 PM
yes would like confirmation on this? P02 again then the newest medobo?
Yup .. go directly, no need to go to P02.
aasoror
Mar 4th, 2011, 01:43 PM
Just asking, Why the OP post this stuff in Hot deal ?
Just asking, Why the OP post this junk in Hot deal ?
Man, at least correct the grammar mistakes while copying and pasting ..
Its "why DOES the OP ... " :facepalm::facepalm:
So is it Quebecers and me ? or Quebecers and the PBO ?!? :facepalm:
nicknam4e
Mar 4th, 2011, 02:28 PM
Ordered one ($89.99) +Wifi adapter ($5.00) 26th feb at NCIX for a total of $107.08 GST(5%):
MIR 40$ sent and enjoy my PBO :))
thnx
Thanh
Mar 4th, 2011, 02:49 PM
Man, at least correct the grammar mistakes while copying and pasting ..
Its "why DOES the OP ... " :facepalm::facepalm:
So is it Quebecers and me ? or Quebecers and the PBO ?!? :facepalm:
It is this quebecer and the PBO. Me and tons of others are enjoying our PBOs as well as your helpful assistance on PBO-related matters.
smg669
Mar 4th, 2011, 03:38 PM
Get it for $60 after PMing @ ME/NCIX for $85 (Infonec price) then apply the $25 MIR.
Links in OP ..
Will ME honour the price match when Infonec isn't offering the rebate? Anyone?
S
jpleau
Mar 4th, 2011, 04:06 PM
Will ME honour the price match when Infonec isn't offering the rebate? Anyone?
S
Price matching and rebates are two separate and distinct items - you price match the regular price, ME reduces their price to match. The MIR is received directly from Patriot, not the retailer.
So yes, they will honour the price match :)
audit13
Mar 4th, 2011, 04:07 PM
So is it Quebecers and me ? or Quebecers and the PBO ?!? :facepalm:
Does another person's opinion change the fact that the PBO is awesome? Not in any way, shape, or form.
Keep up the great work aasoror.
shopper-X
Mar 4th, 2011, 04:22 PM
Waiting for a port!
New announcement: MED500X - MED400X Firmware v4.0.4 - 3 March2011 (LATEST STABLE RELEASE)
Such a demanding RFD'er :)
Its out, check the wiki ..
Enjoy,
I upgrade from an older MEDO version to the new one and the 'MENU' button does not work to add folders to the video wall. I forgot to backup the configuration before upgrading. The MENU button shows and "X" in the corner of the screen.
tremendouspete
Mar 4th, 2011, 04:28 PM
It is this quebecer and the PBO. Me and tons of others are enjoying our PBOs as well as your helpful assistance on PBO-related matters.
+1
Indeed, this PBO thread is awesome. It's informative, and the OP is, more often than not, crazy fast to respond. What a great contribution to the RFD community.
aasoror
Mar 4th, 2011, 04:28 PM
I upgrade from an older MEDO version to the new one and the 'MENU' button does not work to add folders to the video wall. I forgot to backup the configuration before upgrading. The MENU button shows and "X" in the corner of the screen.
I will look into it,
Thanks for the notification shopper-x.
shopper-X
Mar 4th, 2011, 05:33 PM
I will look into it,
Thanks for the notification shopper-x.
Thank you.
Other thing I found was that Network under the Media Library only shows My Shortcut. I don't see my normal 'workgroup' shares.
I can only see my shares under UPnP and that is where I'm trying to add to the Video Wall from.
bullocks
Mar 4th, 2011, 06:27 PM
So no one knows if NCIX will do the PM? :lol:
aasoror
Mar 4th, 2011, 06:29 PM
I have double checked the patcher, the menu button is patched correctly (same code as in the prior versions).
I think the chances now is that they might have changed the functionality, (i.e. another way to add folders to the movie wall).
For the disappearing workgroup, its not uncommon, did you try power cycling your router and other PCs ? nonetheless if you go through shortcuts it should work.
Thank you.
Other thing I found was that Network under the Media Library only shows My Shortcut. I don't see my normal 'workgroup' shares.
I can only see my shares under UPnP and that is where I'm trying to add to the Video Wall from.
So no one knows if NCIX will do the PM? :lol:
They do, but they have been inconsistent about it, someone gets turned down doing online PM then tries again to do ASPM and its accepted, someone tries doing it directly in store and it gets denied so he goes to the terminal at the store and order for ASPM and it gets accepted, that what I mean by "not standing behind their PM policy" in my OP.
shopper-X
Mar 4th, 2011, 06:48 PM
I have double checked the patcher, the menu button is patched correctly (same code as in the prior versions).
I think the chances now is that they might have changed the functionality, (i.e. another way to add folders to the movie wall).
For the disappearing workgroup, its not uncommon, did you try power cycling your router and other PCs ? nonetheless if you go through shortcuts it should work.
...
I figured it out.
Network->My Shortcuts
press Menu
Add
Details
enter the workgroup name under Domain
enter the IP of were the files are
I then used that Shortcut to add to the video wall.
Asmegin
Mar 4th, 2011, 07:19 PM
Bought one from NCIX, thanks OP!
While I'm waiting for it to arrive, I started sorting my movie collection. I currently have 500+ movies in one folder called Movies.
If I understand correctly, in order to use Mede8er, I need to use the folder structure MOVIES/GENRE/MOVIE/MOVIE.AVI.
So what I'm looking for is something to read the first genre in the .NFO file (after using ThumbGen) and add that movie to the genre folder. Does this exist?? I searched and like most PBO information, found bits and pieces here and there but nothing concrete.
packardbell
Mar 4th, 2011, 07:29 PM
anyone know where i can find some tutorial on how to set up the pbo? sorry for the noobie questions.
thanks in advance
bullocks
Mar 4th, 2011, 08:08 PM
I have double checked the patcher, the menu button is patched correctly (same code as in the prior versions).
I think the chances now is that they might have changed the functionality, (i.e. another way to add folders to the movie wall).
For the disappearing workgroup, its not uncommon, did you try power cycling your router and other PCs ? nonetheless if you go through shortcuts it should work.
They do, but they have been inconsistent about it, someone gets turned down doing online PM then tries again to do ASPM and its accepted, someone tries doing it directly in store and it gets denied so he goes to the terminal at the store and order for ASPM and it gets accepted, that what I mean by "not standing behind their PM policy" in my OP.
What's ASPM?
M.D.
Mar 4th, 2011, 08:13 PM
anyone know where i can find some tutorial on how to set up the pbo? sorry for the noobie questions.
thanks in advance
+1
aasoror
Mar 4th, 2011, 08:32 PM
anyone know where i can find some tutorial on how to set up the pbo? sorry for the noobie questions.
thanks in advance
How about reading the first post in this thread ? (and/or checking the wiki linked in my signature below).
What's ASPM?
Advanced Store Price Matching ..
I figured it out.
Thanks for the info shopper-X
nosnoop
Mar 4th, 2011, 09:19 PM
If I understand correctly, in order to use Mede8er, I need to use the folder structure MOVIES/GENRE/MOVIE/MOVIE.AVI.
No, the "Genre" folders are entirely optional.
You can put your entire library under just one or two folders; though smaller folders would be easier to navigate. But since you can do alpha search, it should still be usable.
So what I'm looking for is something to read the first genre in the .NFO file (after using ThumbGen) and add that movie to the genre folder. Does this exist??
Not sure about that. There are utilities to generate XML files to put movies into genre categories for use with jukebox. But I am not aware of utilities moving the files.
Kraiz
Mar 5th, 2011, 02:35 AM
Sorry, don't have the patience to sift through 100+ pages of posts so here I go.
I've been using my PBO on a Philips TV via HDMI with relatively no problems, recently tried plugging the media player in my Sharp TV and I'm unable to get any audio through HDMI. I've tried changing settings on my TV, power cycling the player and switching the audio options in the PBO menu with no luck. Any advice?
Menace
Mar 5th, 2011, 09:20 AM
Anyone found the latest Medebo firmware a little buggy?
It goes blank after a few minutes of playing mpg or avi files. The same files were fine on Asus O!Play. I just flashed back to the latest official R1 firmware.
audit13
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:29 AM
Sorry, don't have the patience to sift through 100+ pages of posts so here I go.
I've been using my PBO on a Philips TV via HDMI with relatively no problems, recently tried plugging the media player in my Sharp TV and I'm unable to get any audio through HDMI. I've tried changing settings on my TV, power cycling the player and switching the audio options in the PBO menu with no luck. Any advice?
Have you tried different hdmi cables? Did you try using the analog stereo outputs?
Phils
Mar 5th, 2011, 03:15 PM
I'm late to this game but I just setup my PBO and it's fine. Now I'm trying to figure out firmware and it's pretty confusing for me right now. I read the first post. I went to the info screen and jotted down values that I guess will be important but I still haven't figured out next steps.
That being said, however, I should mention that I bought a combo with the Wireless-N adapter from NCIX. As it happens I won't need wireless for the PBO so I plugged it into my WDTV Live and it works beautifully.
aasoror
Mar 5th, 2011, 06:34 PM
Have you tried different hdmi cables? Did you try using the analog stereo outputs?
+1, also you might want try checking the settings on your TV, someone has reported before that there was a setting on his sharp set to enable audio via HDMI.
Anyone found the latest Medebo firmware a little buggy?
Its quite possible, its not bug free (hence not official) but its the latest stable, there is lots of bug fixes compared to prior MedeBO and even deals with some bugs reported on the PM firmware.
by the way, patriot have never released official firmwares, these are all renamed beta's :)
Now I'm trying to figure out firmware and it's pretty confusing for me right now.
What exactly are you trying to do ?
there are lots of options out there and its painless to flash then flash back to whatever you liked the most.
semi-official megapack's, MedeBO's and all ACRBO's (except for latest ACRBO) are bootcode neutral, so you can try them without worrying about bricking your box.
latest ACRBO needs a bootcode 18 or later box (if you have just had the box then chances are you good to go) check bootcode version (on official firmware) by pressing stop then pause at the home menu.
ppl4golf
Mar 5th, 2011, 07:05 PM
Anyone found the latest Medebo firmware a little buggy?
It goes blank after a few minutes of playing mpg or avi files. The same files were fine on Asus O!Play. I just flashed back to the latest official R1 firmware.
I was wondering about that...so you're not the only one...the AVI problem required the back power switch to reboot.
I'm probably going to flash it back as I am quite happy with the penultimate MEBO. Since the very latest firmwares (including the latest official releases), I have experienced the very occasional crashes.
ppl4golf
Mar 5th, 2011, 07:08 PM
I experience a strange problem...
The PBO had turned on by itself a couple of times. It is only connected to my Denon receiver via HDMI. It is not a consistent thing either. Is it supposed to get 'triggered' to power on like many other HDMI devices like TV or BD players ??
Menace
Mar 5th, 2011, 07:48 PM
One of my PBO couldn't be turned off by Harmony remote (520). That was after I installed the latest MeBo.
I experience a strange problem...
The PBO had turned on by itself a couple of times. It is only connected to my Denon receiver via HDMI. It is not a consistent thing either. Is it supposed to get 'triggered' to power on like many other HDMI devices like TV or BD players ??
audit13
Mar 5th, 2011, 09:39 PM
I experience a strange problem...
The PBO had turned on by itself a couple of times. It is only connected to my Denon receiver via HDMI. It is not a consistent thing either. Is it supposed to get 'triggered' to power on like many other HDMI devices like TV or BD players ??
Hey, I also went into my family room to find that the PBO was on. I swore I shut it off earlier. Turned it off, came back about 5 hours later, it was on.
ppl4golf
Mar 5th, 2011, 09:59 PM
Hey, I also went into my family room to find that the PBO was on. I swore I shut it off earlier. Turned it off, came back about 5 hours later, it was on.
Freak...I think we're infected :)
Rick007
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:07 PM
I experience a strange problem...
The PBO had turned on by itself a couple of times. It is only connected to my Denon receiver via HDMI. It is not a consistent thing either. Is it supposed to get 'triggered' to power on like many other HDMI devices like TV or BD players ??
Mine has been doing that several times everyday since I got it back in December. I eventually tracked the problem down to the intermittent IR flashes from my IR Extender. I speculate that RFI causes the IR emitter to send out random flashes that only the PBO responds to.
The latest Medebo release is suppose to help with that problem, and I haven't seen it occur since I upgraded two days ago.
betamaxman
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:07 PM
Seems to be working ok for me so far.
packardbell
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:49 PM
after reading so many threads from PBO, Metafeeds, I still don't know how to add all those asian feeds:(
http://www.metafeeds.com/channel/asia-asia
Kraiz
Mar 6th, 2011, 12:30 AM
+1, also you might want try checking the settings on your TV, someone has reported before that there was a setting on his sharp set to enable audio via HDMI.
I've looked over the settings and can't find any option to enable audio, which shouldn't be the problem as I've plugged other things in the same HDMI ports and got audio. Also tried analog audio no dice. Right now I wonder if changing the firmware would do anything? I'm currently on P61 bootcode 27.
aasoror
Mar 6th, 2011, 12:40 AM
Also tried analog audio no dice.
So analogue audio is not working ? analogue audio should be always on regardless of the setting you are using. I thought you mentioned that the box is working fine on other TVs.
Since you have BC27 you can try any other firmware available.
murjaan
Mar 6th, 2011, 02:15 AM
I experience a strange problem...
The PBO had turned on by itself a couple of times. It is only connected to my Denon receiver via HDMI. It is not a consistent thing either. Is it supposed to get 'triggered' to power on like many other HDMI devices like TV or BD players ??
Same issue here I noticed several times it turned on by itself. Strange.
I have original manufacturing settings. I didnt flash my unit.
Phils
Mar 6th, 2011, 08:42 AM
What exactly are you trying to do ?
there are lots of options out there and its painless to flash then flash back to whatever you liked the most.
semi-official megapack's, MedeBO's and all ACRBO's (except for latest ACRBO) are bootcode neutral, so you can try them without worrying about bricking your box.
latest ACRBO needs a bootcode 18 or later box (if you have just had the box then chances are you good to go) check bootcode version (on official firmware) by pressing stop then pause at the home menu.
It's the sheer number of options that make this confusing. Fewer options and this would have obviously been simpler.
Actually, I don't need a video wall really. Access to more online content would be a good thing and the ability to have a bigger font on the info screens would also be nice. That way, I wouldn't need my glasses. Other than that, I'm good to go. Also, I'm feeding files off a NAS and I don't want PC involved at all while I'm watching something.
I'm starting to sort through all the info in this thread by reading it from the start. It's a lot of pages but much of it has to do with available deals so it moves fast and I'm making some progress. If nothing else, it's giving me some context before I do anything.
What I can tell you at this point is that I'm at bootup 27. My bootcode is 0000.0202.0027. My system revision is P0020BC18-61. The Kernel, if important, is 323634.
ppl4golf
Mar 6th, 2011, 10:34 AM
Same issue here I noticed several times it turned on by itself. Strange.
I have original manufacturing settings. I didnt flash my unit.
Whenever there is a power outage, the PBO will reboot spontaneously. I was talking about it happening right in front of my eyes when there was no black-out.
redgrandam
Mar 6th, 2011, 11:34 AM
Same issue here I noticed several times it turned on by itself. Strange.
I have original manufacturing settings. I didnt flash my unit.
I haven't noticed that with my unit. Any chance it is getting IR signal from another device that it confuses (or is the same as) it's power on signal? Maybe a power flicker (or draw from an appliance) and it thinks the power was out so reboots and turns on?
audit13
Mar 6th, 2011, 11:36 AM
Same issue here I noticed several times it turned on by itself. Strange.
I have original manufacturing settings. I didnt flash my unit.
I flashed my unit back to medebo 5249 last night and my PBO was off this morning. I assumed it stayed off all night.
nosnoop
Mar 6th, 2011, 04:26 PM
It's the sheer number of options that make this confusing. Fewer options and this would have obviously been simpler.
So now you are complaining about too many choices?? :)
Basically, you don't have to play around with the firmware if you are happy with what you got. The firmware which comes with your PBO works fine.
If you want more internet content, try out aasoror's semi-official custom firmware (http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showpost.php?p=29631&postcount=1). It has other good stuff too.
If you want a easy to set up movie wall, prettier UI, and don't care much about IMS, you should try out MedeBO.
If you want something different, a different UI, and not happy with the two above, then you can give ACRBO a try.
But as I said, don't feel compelled to use different firmware just because it is talked about a lot in this thread.
aasoror
Mar 6th, 2011, 06:48 PM
It is this quebecer and the PBO. Me and tons of others are enjoying our PBOs as well as your helpful assistance on PBO-related matters.
Thank you Thanh, and all of you guys as well, my question was certainly a rhetorical one :), and expectedly it was that poster and me (nothing to do with the PBO and/or Quebecers) and (apparently) 2 of his/her fake/proxy id's. A little mishap that ended with all of the three getting permanently banned off RFD.
cdnNick
Mar 6th, 2011, 07:57 PM
I figured it out.
Network->My Shortcuts
press Menu
Add
Details
enter the workgroup name under Domain
enter the IP of were the files are
I then used that Shortcut to add to the video wall.
Is this for the stock firmware? I can't get any shortcuts to work on mine.
Menace
Mar 6th, 2011, 08:24 PM
If I remember it right.
1) Network->My Shortcuts
2) press Options
Is this for the stock firmware? I can't get any shortcuts to work on mine.
nicknam4e
Mar 6th, 2011, 08:24 PM
I enjoyed my PBO bought from NCIX about a week ago. but yesterday it stoped suddenly when i was watching an avi film, then I restarted the player, but PBO could not pass the sound through HDMI cable and it changed my TV resolution, there was no option for 1080p 60Hz, just 1080i 60 Hz. And now it can not detect my USB disk 2.5" that I used to connect to the PBO. I just can view GUI by RCA cable.
Think I must return, so sad. Anyone have the same problem ?
aasoror
Mar 6th, 2011, 10:01 PM
I enjoyed my PBO bought from NCIX about a week ago. but yesterday it stoped suddenly when i was watching an avi film, then I restarted the player, but PBO could not pass the sound through HDMI cable and it changed my TV resolution, there was no option for 1080p 60Hz, just 1080i 60 Hz. And now it can not detect my USB disk 2.5" that I used to connect to the PBO. I just can view GUI by RCA cable.
Think I must return, so sad. Anyone have the same problem ?
the broken sound and lost resolution might be an HDMI cable gone bad.
Did you try power cycling (from the back switch) the PBO.
The problematic USB connection might need a firmware reflash, there is reported problem with some power hungry externals, but you mentioned it used to work on your PBO without a problem.
nicknam4e
Mar 6th, 2011, 11:00 PM
the broken sound and lost resolution might be an HDMI cable gone bad.
Did you try power cycling (from the back switch) the PBO.
The problematic USB connection might need a firmware reflash, there is reported problem with some power hungry externals, but you mentioned it used to work on your PBO without a problem.
For information : My PBO shuts down suddenly when i were watching a movie, then i restarted PBO, It took so long time (2 min) to display through receiver by HDMI cable, but no sound and it changed the resolution of TV. when i restarted again, it took about 4 min to display, ect.. till no video, no sound at all, and no USB connection :((
Answer to aasoror's suggestion :
- HDMI : I'd tried other HDMI cables, but it doesn't work neither.
- Power cycling : I've tried power cycling; turn TV + receiver on first then PBO, I've also tried to connect PBO directly to TV by HDMI cable but does not work.
- USB connection : It's always the disk 2.5" that I used to work on my PBO. I tried a USB key but no issue (It seems there is no power on USB port, USB lights don't highlight at all), I just hear the fan :(( .
Can I demand a replace from NCIX site ? (Buy it 26th feb)
My PBO was so sexy :( Love it anyway. Thnx
Totoriko
Mar 6th, 2011, 11:14 PM
For information : My PBO shuts down suddenly when i were watching a movie, then i restarted PBO, It took so long time (2 min) to display through receiver by HDMI cable, but no sound and it changed the resolution of TV. when i restarted again, it took about 4 min to display, ect.. till no video, no sound at all, and no USB connection :((
Answer to aasoror's suggestion :
- HDMI : I'd tried other HDMI cables, but it doesn't work neither.
- Power cycling : I've tried power cycling; turn TV + receiver on first then PBO, I've also tried to connect PBO directly to TV by HDMI cable but does not work.
- USB connection : It's always the disk 2.5" that I used to work on my PBO. I tried a USB key but no issue (It seems there is no power on USB port, USB lights don't highlight at all), I just hear the fan :(( .
Can I demand a replace from NCIX site ? (Buy it 26th feb)
My PBO was so sexy :( Love it anyway. Thnx
what FW? Seems to me the latest FW is quite buggy.
audit13
Mar 6th, 2011, 11:14 PM
For information : My PBO shuts down suddenly when i were watching a movie, then i restarted PBO, It took so long time (2 min) to display through receiver by HDMI cable, but no sound and it changed the resolution of TV. when i restarted again, it took about 4 min to display, ect.. till no video, no sound at all, and no USB connection :((
Answer to aasoror's suggestion :
- HDMI : I'd tried other HDMI cables, but it doesn't work neither.
- Power cycling : I've tried power cycling; turn TV + receiver on first then PBO, I've also tried to connect PBO directly to TV by HDMI cable but does not work.
- USB connection : It's always the disk 2.5" that I used to work on my PBO. I tried a USB key but no issue (It seems there is no power on USB port, USB lights don't highlight at all), I just hear the fan :(( .
Can I demand a replace from NCIX site ? (Buy it 26th feb)
My PBO was so sexy :( Love it anyway. Thnx
If you're near an ncix store that has stock, they should swap you unit for a new unit.
shopper-X
Mar 6th, 2011, 11:52 PM
Is this for the stock firmware? I can't get any shortcuts to work on mine.
No, It's on the MedeBO.
ppl4golf
Mar 7th, 2011, 12:21 AM
No, It's on the MedeBO.
Try scale back to the penultimate MEBO from Jan 2011.
aasoror
Mar 7th, 2011, 01:32 AM
Can I demand a replace from NCIX site ? (Buy it 26th feb)
If you have purchased the express coverage then go ahead by all means.
If you haven't and will need to pay for shipping the box to them I would try to reflash first, just to be sure.
Phils
Mar 7th, 2011, 06:40 AM
So now you are complaining about too many choices?? :)
Basically, you don't have to play around with the firmware if you are happy with what you got. The firmware which comes with your PBO works fine.
If you want more internet content, try out aasoror's semi-official custom firmware (http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showpost.php?p=29631&postcount=1). It has other good stuff too.
If you want a easy to set up movie wall, prettier UI, and don't care much about IMS, you should try out MedeBO.
If you want something different, a different UI, and not happy with the two above, then you can give ACRBO a try.
But as I said, don't feel compelled to use different firmware just because it is talked about a lot in this thread.
So many options - so little time! LOL. It's more of an academic curiousity about what's possible than a fervent need.
Actually, this is on a secondary TV in our house and a better gui is not that important to me right now. Maybe after tax time.
On the other hand, more online content would be a good thing so I may just go that route. I do have one newbie question though - What's IMS? I'm only on page 10 of this thread and I don't remember seeing anything about IMS yet.
Thx.
bullocks
Mar 7th, 2011, 07:04 PM
Can someone compare this to the Song BDP-470 Player?
If I have that is their any point for something like this? Thanks.
audit13
Mar 7th, 2011, 07:07 PM
Can someone compare this to the Song BDP-470 Player?
If I have that is their any point for something like this? Thanks.
Do you mean Sony bdp-470? I have a Sony BDP-370 that I use for DSD streaming to my receiver. I think you need both as both units play different types of media files.
bullocks
Mar 7th, 2011, 07:22 PM
Do you mean Sony bdp-470? I have a Sony BDP-370 that I use for DSD streaming to my receiver. I think you need both as both units play different types of media files.
Yeah, sorry I ment Sony bdp-s470 actually ;)
If anyone could let me know a bit more detailed would be good.
audit13
Mar 7th, 2011, 08:39 PM
Yeah, sorry I ment Sony bdp-s470 actually ;)
If anyone could let me know a bit more detailed would be good.
The PBO can play mkv, avi, wav, flac, m2ts, mp3, and mp4 files. The PBO can also stream internet radio. The Sony can't come close to matching the PBO for file compatibility but the Sony can play physical media. The PBO can as well but you would need to connect an external usb drive and it can't play BDs as far as I know.
I use my Sony for playing CDs, and SACDs because my PBO can't in its current form.
tivoyahoo
Mar 8th, 2011, 04:55 PM
There is a youtube video titled Patriot Memory Box Office P020BC18-70 with comments of:
1.update GUI icon 2.fix some bugs 3.Add screen tips icon on background play music.
Don't think I can post a link as a new user (tried to post link 2 days ago and it didn't show up) but a google or youtube search will find it.
A second video shows up if you google "Patriot Memory Box Office P020BC18-70 woopie"
Any more information on this version?
nicknam4e
Mar 8th, 2011, 04:56 PM
If you have purchased the express coverage then go ahead by all means.
If you haven't and will need to pay for shipping the box to them I would try to reflash first, just to be sure.
Here is my PBO version
-System revision : P0020BC18-61
- Kernel version : 323634
Bootup : 27
Bootcode : 000.0202.0027
Audio : 329564
Video : 329036
RootApp : 329564
Rootfs : 329742
I'll get my PBO reflash like this (http://patriotmem.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25243&postcount=1093)
Thanks
aasoror
Mar 8th, 2011, 05:09 PM
You don't need the emergency reflash procedure quoted below, just reflash from the setup menu as instructed in the official firmware download thread (on PM forums).
I would also recommend reflashing to P02 first then to P61, this will make sure the PBO is fully erased and any corrupted files are replaced.
Best of luck,
Here is my PBO version
-System revision : P0020BC18-61
- Kernel version : 323634
Bootup : 27
Bootcode : 000.0202.0027
Audio : 329564
Video : 329036
RootApp : 329564
Rootfs : 329742
I'll get my PBO reflash like this (http://patriotmem.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25243&postcount=1093)
Thanks
bullocks
Mar 8th, 2011, 07:53 PM
The PBO can play mkv, avi, wav, flac, m2ts, mp3, and mp4 files. The PBO can also stream internet radio. The Sony can't come close to matching the PBO for file compatibility but the Sony can play physical media. The PBO can as well but you would need to connect an external usb drive and it can't play BDs as far as I know.
I use my Sony for playing CDs, and SACDs because my PBO can't in its current form.
Thanks!
How would this compare to using my XBOX 360 as a file server and through tversity/playon?
audit13
Mar 8th, 2011, 08:15 PM
There is a youtube video titled Patriot Memory Box Office P020BC18-70 with comments of:
1.update GUI icon 2.fix some bugs 3.Add screen tips icon on background play music.
Don't think I can post a link as a new user (tried to post link 2 days ago and it didn't show up) but a google or youtube search will find it.
A second video shows up if you google "Patriot Memory Box Office P020BC18-70 woopie"
Any more information on this version?
Here's the link to Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LByIoRoj-Ws
I looked here and there is no mention of this new firmware:http://patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2131
aasoror
Mar 8th, 2011, 08:53 PM
Here's the link to Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LByIoRoj-Ws
I looked here and there is no mention of this new firmware:http://patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2131
This is indeed an official firmware, I have contacted PM to see what they would say about it.
audit13
Mar 8th, 2011, 08:58 PM
This is indeed an official firmware, I have contacted PM to see what they would say about it.
It looks nice. Any links available?
aasoror
Mar 8th, 2011, 09:00 PM
It looks nice. Any links available?
nope, I haven't heard back from them yet.
nicknam4e
Mar 9th, 2011, 04:13 PM
You don't need the emergency reflash procedure quoted below, just reflash from the setup menu as instructed in the official firmware download thread (on PM forums).
I would also recommend reflashing to P02 first then to P61, this will make sure the PBO is fully erased and any corrupted files are replaced.
Best of luck,
1) I had my PBO reflash from P02 (http://www.patriotmemory.com/software/BoxOfficeFirmware/ES-51-283G-PCMPBO25-P02.rar) at first
Then I see (RCA cable) "Can not boot from HDD" ->I've just bricked my PBO :D
2) I might to use emergency reflash procedure as aasoror's post (http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showpost.php?p=17862&postcount=4) at PM forum (I used P61 (http://www.patriotmemory.com/software/BoxOfficeFirmware/P020BC16-61.zip))
- unplug power.
- remove any installed HDD.
- remove any network cables.
- remove the HDMI cable. -->Very important in my case, see details later
- connect composite RCA cables.
- get a freshly FAT32 formatted USB key, download P02 from firmware download page, get the install.img from the rar and add it to the root of the USB key.
- attach the USB key at the "front" USB port of the box.
- power up TV, switch to the proper input.
- plug power.
- and wait to see if your USB key led lights up indicating a firmware read.
- wait ... wait ... wait ..
- might want to repeat procedure several times until the box picks up.-->4th time for me
3) Nothing changes, but I figure out that there is a problem of HDMI connection; when I plug HDMI cable, my HDD and USB key lost connections immediately. When I unplug HDMI cable, USB connections come back. (I'd tried with 2xHDD + 2xUSB keys + 2 HDMI cables)
I filmed and uploaded to Youtube :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mvEHLvyz4s
Can I give it one shot any more ? Or RMA the PBO. Anyway I find it interessting :)), and we can hack many mods and reflash the firware by different ways.
Awesome. thanks @aasoror .
:D
aasoror
Mar 9th, 2011, 04:40 PM
It looks nice. Any links available?
PM just confirmed, it should be released within 2 weeks.
Can I give it one shot any more ? Or RMA the PBO.
Since you have tried 2 different cables apparently there is something messed up with your HDMI port, I would go for an RMA.
redgrandam
Mar 9th, 2011, 04:55 PM
1)
3) Nothing changes, but I figure out that there is a problem of HDMI connection; when I plug HDMI cable, my HDD and USB key lost connections immediately. When I unplug HDMI cable, USB connections come back. (I'd tried with 2xHDD + 2xUSB keys + 2 HDMI cables)
I filmed and uploaded to Youtube :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mvEHLvyz4s
Can I give it one shot any more ? Or RMA the PBO. Anyway I find it interessting :)), and we can hack many mods and reflash the firware by different ways.
Awesome. thanks @aasoror .
:D
That's very interesting. I'm wondering if I was having that problem too. I was having trouble with my USB key working consistently on it. Seems to be ok recently. Between the PBO and my computer I fried one key (think it might have been that particular key), but there were times I couldn't get the front port to work with my USB key. If it happens again I'll unplug my HDMI cable and see if that makes it work.
bullocks
Mar 9th, 2011, 06:58 PM
Thanks!
How would this compare to using my XBOX 360 as a file server and through tversity/playon?
Any opinoins.
Thanks ;)
ppl4golf
Mar 9th, 2011, 08:10 PM
Any opinoins.
Thanks ;)
PBO eats XBox's lunch without anything stuck between the teeth.
Menace
Mar 9th, 2011, 09:29 PM
PBO eats XBox's lunch & dinner without anything stuck between the teeth :)
PBO eats XBox's lunch without anything stuck between the teeth.
Mr Nobody
Mar 10th, 2011, 03:11 PM
ther's two ways to do it
1. Press the GoTo button on the remote, you can use the up/down arrows to choose the minute to go to and then hit OK
or
2. Hit any number key, then you will see the time bar, press any number to go to that minute (i.e. hit 55 to go to minute 55, 8 to go to minute 8, 94 to go to 1h34min mark)
3. Fast forward 30 seconds by hitting Eject or Title. Rewind 10 seconds by hitting CM Skip (yellow button). These are very fast in response too.
ppl4golf
Mar 10th, 2011, 03:40 PM
3. Fast forward 30 seconds by hitting Eject or Title. Rewind 10 seconds by hitting CM Skip (yellow button). These are very fast in response too.
EJECT is a ZOOM toggle button for my MEBO...quite handy actually to compensate the overscan on 720p plasmas that overscan.
The correct buttons are CM skip and INST REPLAY
aasoror
Mar 10th, 2011, 03:49 PM
EJECT is a ZOOM toggle button for my MEBO...quite handy actually to compensate the overscan on 720p plasmas that overscan.
The correct buttons are CM skip and INST REPLAY
Yup,
the remapped buttons on the PBO remote for both ACRBO and MedeBO:
- Eject/Title : Z+/Z-
- Option : Repeat A->B
Mr Nobody
Mar 10th, 2011, 04:50 PM
EJECT is a ZOOM toggle button for my MEBO...quite handy actually to compensate the overscan on 720p plasmas that overscan.
The correct buttons are CM skip and INST REPLAY
Something like that. I have it programmed on my Harmony with custom text (<<10sec and 30sec>>), so forgot the exact buttons. :)
fiendy
Mar 11th, 2011, 01:13 PM
Maybe someone here can help:
I purchased a Belkin F7D1101 Basic N150/802.11N Wireless USB Adapter to try out with my PBO (regular firmware - haven't tinkered with Medebo yet).
I know it is not ideal since its not full the full N spec. (300), but I finally got it hooked it up to my network and I was able to get around 5.5Mbps throughput, which seemed to play everything but my highest 720p BR .mkvs, but then the speed dropped to around 400-700kbps, tried rebooting the unit, but it seems to stay under 1Mbps and is choppy on even low-res videos.
I can't figure out why the speed started high but dropped afterwards. Any thoughts? I'm going to try to troubleshoot later using my router's stats to see what kind of speed it is synced at.
Anyone experience anything similar? I took a chance on the n-150 since it was only $4.99, not a huge deal, but I'm annoyed since I know it can sustain the speeds necessary.
tomtong
Mar 11th, 2011, 01:33 PM
I've used the Patriot Wireless N USB adapter with similar issue and sometimes the PBO just froze on me.
http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5772
At the end, I go with CAT5 for stability and no more screen freeze.
aasoror
Mar 11th, 2011, 03:56 PM
I can't figure out why the speed started high but dropped afterwards. Any thoughts?
It might be your network, have you tried power cycling your router and the devices you are streaming from.
You can also try a USB extension cable to move the adapter more inline with your router.
Mr Nobody
Mar 11th, 2011, 03:58 PM
A,
How do I save my video wall in Medebo so I can restore it after a flash? Also, any way to reorder the items?
Thanks.
aasoror
Mar 11th, 2011, 05:55 PM
A,
How do I save my video wall in Medebo so I can restore it after a flash? Also, any way to reorder the items?
Thanks.
There is no video wall files to be saved :)
The video wall consists of 2 images (backdrop and movie cover) which are saved where the media resides, so once you reflash just add the media folder to the movie wall and you are done
aasoror
Mar 11th, 2011, 07:16 PM
The same compatible adapter (Realtek RTL8191SU):
- selling at meritline (http://www.meritline.com/mini-usb-wireless-lan-adapter-pc-mac---p-60904.aspx)for $19 (shipped).
- selling at DX (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/802-11g-b-300mbps-usb-wireless-network-adapter-dongle-23347)for $16.5 (shipped).
- selling at monoprice (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10501&cs_id=1050105&p_id=6147&seq=1&format=2)for $14.22 (shipped).
Get it on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320665643633)for $9.68 (shipped).
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqF,!hEE1gd)Wm,iBNbvSKTHLg~~0_12.JPG
Deal courtesy of freebo86 @ PBO PM forums.
aasoror
Mar 12th, 2011, 11:16 PM
ACRBO the asian version is now on the wiki.
info@hometechcomputer.com
Mar 13th, 2011, 12:52 AM
Been looking around but didn't find any info on it. Can I access my iPhoto library on the PBO?
RastaManMax
Mar 13th, 2011, 02:11 AM
Maybe someone here can help:
I purchased a Belkin F7D1101 Basic N150/802.11N Wireless USB Adapter to try out with my PBO (regular firmware - haven't tinkered with Medebo yet).
I know it is not ideal since its not full the full N spec. (300), but I finally got it hooked it up to my network and I was able to get around 5.5Mbps throughput, which seemed to play everything but my highest 720p BR .mkvs, but then the speed dropped to around 400-700kbps, tried rebooting the unit, but it seems to stay under 1Mbps and is choppy on even low-res videos.
I can't figure out why the speed started high but dropped afterwards. Any thoughts? I'm going to try to troubleshoot later using my router's stats to see what kind of speed it is synced at.
Anyone experience anything similar? I took a chance on the n-150 since it was only $4.99, not a huge deal, but I'm annoyed since I know it can sustain the speeds necessary.
Can your router even sustain 300mbps or let alone a 150mbps connection? My 300mbps router only gets 72-144mbps actual connection speed on my 300mbps capable laptops. Mind if I ask what router you have?
seanster
Mar 13th, 2011, 05:09 PM
Can anyone tell me what the best video wall is? I have loaded the latest mede8r. I ran a program called "zeeb" to get my movie collection in shape and then ran "yamj to mede8r".
With mede8r 4.0 the video wall was too slow for practical use. With 4.0.4 it is just barely on the edge of acceptable, 60% WAF tops. (my thumbs are all 160x? and 55k or less). I have a wd640g mounted inside the pbo so there's no reason to be slow.
What really irks me is that mede8r expects me to glob all my movies together or physically separate them into single genre folders. That's a low acceptance factor for anyone.
Are the other options any better? Was I wasting my time and should have gone with ACRBO & TViXie from the start or does it have some fatal flaws of it's own?
Thanks,
Sean
kingkelly
Mar 13th, 2011, 05:16 PM
ACRBO is super slow compared to mede8r.
These screens of the video wall and all that look nice and all, but is there actually a solution that works where the content doesnt run slow?
Theres no point in running those nice looking cool features if its going to be a pain with the sluggishness imo.
seanster
Mar 13th, 2011, 05:45 PM
ACRBO is super slow compared to mede8r.
...
Ok... how about this. I repartition my fat32 drive down a bit and create a new ext3 partition. Create a directory hierarchy of genres on the ext3. Write a script that parses the xml files for each movie and creates symlinks in each genre subfolder linking to the movie's directory on the fat32 partition. I can then use other directory hierarchies for other sorting methods, like by rating 0-10 or by year, director, whatever.
Anyone tried anything like this?
betamaxman
Mar 13th, 2011, 05:48 PM
Just run thumbgen and rename the movie sheet files to about. It was all I did and the wall is reasonably fast for me. It even improved with the latest mede firmware
seanster
Mar 13th, 2011, 05:52 PM
I'm not sure what your point is. The "YAMJ_To_Mede8er_Beta_6" I used already creates about.jpg. Why would that affect the video wall speed? That's only going to be using folder.jpg for the tile display.
aasoror
Mar 13th, 2011, 06:23 PM
Are the other options any better? Was I wasting my time and should have gone with ACRBO & TViXie from the start or does it have some fatal flaws of it's own?
You can do ACRBO (any release prior to GUI 2.0) and Tvixie2PlayON!HD RSS jukebox or PBO semi-official-megapack also with Tvixie2PlayON!HD RSS jukebox.
It little bit more involved to setup (there is several how-tos on the wiki), but its far more flexible (IMHO) at least it will do indexing and able you to browse using the indexes instead of only one view to the collection (view of physical storage).
ACRBO is super slow compared to mede8r.
You mean ACRBO with GUI 2.0, this is a confirmed issue because GUI 2.0 was not meant for the slower CPUs of our generation of media players, any way developers at ACR are working on it.
Ok... how about this. I repartition my fat32 drive down a bit and create a new ext3 partition.
The problem isn't how fast you can access the data, the problem is the HD interface elements (GUI 2.0 interface) are CPU consuming due to compression, one way to work around this is to use uncompressed images, but the problem is uncompressed images take more space of the limited 128 MB flash of the ACR boxes (PBO has 256MB flash though), the firmware file system itself (squashFS) that is currently being used for all these firmwares is slow compared to the earlier releases (YAFFS2) because to save flash space the file system keeps the files compressed and (repeatedly) uncompress them at runtime (smaller space, slower execution at runtime).
I'm not sure what your point is. The "YAMJ_To_Mede8er_Beta_6" I used already creates about.jpg. Why would that affect the video wall speed? That's only going to be using folder.jpg for the tile display.
His point was not to use YAMJ2MED @ all :). You can just setup thumbgen properly to get the same YAMJ2Med, the output wont be even need to renamed.
That said, as you noted, this wont help with the speed of the video wall.
Try decreasing the quality of the images (there is a slide bar) on the YAMJ2Med interface.
I have already ported the MedeBO to YAFFS2 so there not much to be done there.
The Tvixie2PlayON!HD will allow you to use bmps instead of JPGs (there is a utility on the ACR thread to re-encode all your JPGs) which should allow faster browsing (using the RSS jukebox) without sacrificing quality, yet don't expect day and night between MedeBO video wall and RSS based jukebox, but its faster and more flexible (but the last time I checked you lose subs when playing the files through the rss jukebox).
Best of luck,
fiendy
Mar 13th, 2011, 06:30 PM
Can your router even sustain 300mbps or let alone a 150mbps connection? My 300mbps router only gets 72-144mbps actual connection speed on my 300mbps capable laptops. Mind if I ask what router you have?
I don't need it sustain anywhere near 150 or 300Mbps, I just need it to sustain whatever the bitrate of the video files are and for it to stop stuttering.
Its a Dlink DIR-615 running the latest firmware which I truly hate. I could try to instal DD-WRT on it, but I don't want to brick it since I don't have a spare.
Neb
Mar 13th, 2011, 08:08 PM
Maybe someone here can help:
I purchased a Belkin F7D1101 Basic N150/802.11N Wireless USB Adapter to try out with my PBO (regular firmware - haven't tinkered with Medebo yet).
I know it is not ideal since its not full the full N spec. (300), but I finally got it hooked it up to my network and I was able to get around 5.5Mbps throughput, which seemed to play everything but my highest 720p BR .mkvs, but then the speed dropped to around 400-700kbps, tried rebooting the unit, but it seems to stay under 1Mbps and is choppy on even low-res videos.
I can't figure out why the speed started high but dropped afterwards. Any thoughts? I'm going to try to troubleshoot later using my router's stats to see what kind of speed it is synced at.
Anyone experience anything similar? I took a chance on the n-150 since it was only $4.99, not a huge deal, but I'm annoyed since I know it can sustain the speeds necessary.
I bougth the same adapter from FS. It works with PBO firmware, but when i flashed it to Medebo, it won't recognize it... So i returned it.
nosnoop
Mar 13th, 2011, 09:54 PM
Is the MedeBO firmware based on the INC_HDaudio version or the NO_HDaudio version?
TIA.
aasoror
Mar 13th, 2011, 10:11 PM
Is the MedeBO firmware based on the INC_HDaudio version or the NO_HDaudio version?
TIA.
the INC_HDaudio version
seanster
Mar 14th, 2011, 02:07 AM
The impression I get is that Tvixie2PlayON!HD is (at the moment) is somewhere between `a lot slower` or `a bit slower`?
I tested my mede8er video wall some more. The page delay is generally about 2 seconds from what I can tell.
Then I noticed that I had page buttons and should not move across item by item.
Due to what can only be lazy coding, if you are on, say, a movie on the right edge and click right 3 times, it jumps you about 3 pages rather than the expected 3 movies, after a delay of about 3x the normal page delay. If you are scrolling along with the left or right directionals it will have huge 10+ second delays and jump many pages at a time.
I have done some work on the symlink idea.
My drive was of course ntfs formatted which supports junction points. FAT32 would have a file size limit.
Unfortunately my tests showed that mede8er is using a paragon ntfs driver which only allows symlinks to files, not directories.
I went ahead and created a small 4gig ext3 partition on the PBO. I set it to auto-mount just off the main ntfs root directory.
I added a genre directory and year directory, added symlinks to some movie directories (that reside on the ntfs drive of course) and set up videowall shortcuts.
It all seems to work fine and allows me to have folder images for the genres and the different sorting methods.
"All" I have to do now is whip up a little cron script to parse the .xml files from the movie folders and maintain these symlink hierarchies.
I was thinking of having it build these hierarchies:
Genre
Year
Decades?
Rating 0 thru 10
First letter or letter ranges
Directors
Actors
Some sort of kids folder
Can anyone tell me where mede8er stores the association between the video wall shortcut and the image file associated with it? It doesn't use folder.jpg but lets me choose an image which it remembers somehow. I'd want to build that into the program rather than manually use the gui. In the second level deep it uses folder.jpg just fine.
nosnoop
Mar 14th, 2011, 04:09 AM
the INC_HDaudio version
Thanks, and thanks for the Shizzl version.
Wondering whether I should try it... my CA-42 cable has not arrived yet.
But one of my newer PBO running MedeBO 5249 is having random freezing for about 2 to 3 seconds before continuing. The same file plays fine in other player running identical firmware. Not sure if it is a hardware problem.
BTW, your advice about "being smart" when providing feedback to original developers may be too subtle for some users....
http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php/topic=4648.0
http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php/topic,3496.0.html
:facepalm:
I won't be surprised that some users would just notice the "provide feedback to the original firmware developers check here" part without ever reading all the writings on top.
aasoror
Mar 15th, 2011, 02:47 AM
BTW, your advice about "being smart" when providing feedback to original developers may be too subtle for some users....
http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php/topic=4648.0
http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php/topic,3496.0.html
:facepalm:
I won't be surprised that some users would just notice the "provide feedback to the original firmware developers check here" part without ever reading all the writings on top.
I think I should add a hall of shame section on the wiki for these kind of threads (I have couple of equally hilarious ones on the ACR forums as well).
I don't want to remove the source links because I think that the least to be done in return is to provide feedback to these guys, not to mention lots of information there which saves us from reinventing the wheel on the wiki. But providing feedback is one thing and asking for features is another :facepalm: :facepalm:
itrocks4u
Mar 16th, 2011, 11:41 PM
Does ps3 play .iso file formats? In case anyone knows?
nosnoop
Mar 17th, 2011, 01:09 AM
Does ps3 play .iso file formats? In case anyone knows?
No, PS3 does not.
PBO does.
itrocks4u
Mar 17th, 2011, 01:44 AM
Thanks!
I've finally decided to get the PBO primarily because it can play .mkv and .iso. Just needed some opinion on the following:
1) for hard drive go with NAS (WD My Book Live 1TB) connected through Ethernet to the PBO; or
2) get an internal 2.5inch hard drive?
Basically, I have the first one already but can I use that for PBO to display and play files properly? Also being a "bittorrent" (or whatever the term is) can I use the PBO to download torrents while they save on the network drive?
Thanks in advance!
aasoror
Mar 18th, 2011, 12:19 AM
Get it for $55 after PMing @ ME/NCIX for $85 (Infonec price) then apply the $30 MIR.
kingrukus
Mar 18th, 2011, 01:41 AM
I recently purchased a PBO, and today decided to try it out.
I installed P02 firmware, and then MedeBO. I wanted to setup a movie wall, but that is where the confusion starts. Am I supposed to setup BOTH YAMJ and Y2M, or just Y2M? Am I supposed to run both programs simultaneously?
For now, I installed both.
First, I installed YAMJ - it went through my movie collection, and seemed to download a bunch of images and created XML files for a wall.
I then installed Y2M - this program doesn't provide any shortcuts and you need to hunt for the excecutable on your own. After installing it, it wanted me to look for YAMJ, but even after locating the YAMJ directory and the jukebox it created, it still wasn't working. I tried to select all the movies it finally imported from the Jukebox via YAMJ, and hit the button "RUN Yamj to Mede8er", but that did nothing.
Can someone please provide quick tips on how to quickly and effectively setup a nice moviewall for MedeBO?
Finally, if I want to run Youtube and other streaming video from the internet, should I be going with ACRBO instead?
Thanks
kingrukus
Mar 18th, 2011, 01:53 AM
Figured I would quote post # 1397 incase people miss it...
So after 8 hours (at least) with this thing, I have some thoughts and knowledge that may or may not be useful to anyone.
1) All the information on the PBO is EXTREMELY unorganized. I suppose there isn't enough interest yet and that's why.
2) It isn't as simple as you may think to get things to look "good"
Anyway.
Flashing instructions:
It seems that the safest way to update firmware is to first DOWNGRADE to P02 (stock firmware), rebooting, and then UPGRADING to whichever firmware you want. It was even suggested (as I understood) to flash P02 twice with a reboot in between each time, followed by the intended firmware twice with a reboot in between each time. Does this actually matter? When I flashed only once each (for P61 mega.YT.4opt) youtube would never work for me. When I flashed twice, it worked for the most part (still couldn't get the search function to work). Coincidence or not, I've become a double flasher.
For in depth instructions on the flashing process:
http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showthread.php?p=21176#post21176
(make sure to read post number two as well because it is important)
IMPORTANT: Make sure that there isn't anything else unrelated on the USB drive, or your upgrade may fail and "brick" your device. Once again I don't know if it's a rule, but it happened to me and only solved itself once I removed everything else off the device.
NOTE: It is also suggested during flashing to use the back usb port rather than the front, and for the only things to be plugged in are the usb drive, the composite cables (don't use hdmi), and the power.
In case of "Bricked" device:
- Turn off PBO
- Place the "install.img" of stock P02 on the usb drive and plug into the back port
- Turn on PBO and WAIT. Wait for a good while. Hopefully it will start installing the P02. If not, then it is still salvageable although will be a bit more difficult. Do a search for unbricking the PBO.
Stock Firmware:
- If you don't mind lack-luster GUI, and some "missing" features
- Download: http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2131
- P02 firmware: http://www.patriotmemory.com/software/BoxOfficeFirmware/ES-51-283G-PCMPBO25-P02.rar
Main Custom firmwares:
NOTE - ONLY flash firmware intended for the PBO. DO NOT flash official versions of MedeBO or ACRBO because it will brick your device)
MedeBO 4241
- Can't tell you much about it because I haven't tried it yet
- Is missing the IMS menu, thus no youtube, flicker, weather, etc.
- Video of the Wall (MedeBO 421): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4TvuYdnD4c&feature=related
- Download: http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22804&postcount=807
ACRBO European 4090
- Better layout than PBO's firmware in my opinion
- IMS menu only has weather, news, flicker, and . Other features will have to be manually installed.
- Capable of running YAMJ. BUT! This does NOT mean you can use any of the skins (I found out the hard way). Currently the firmware deciphers information by the xml file rather than the html so you will only get a very basic visual display with this firmware. Nothing like any of the pictures you see on this thread. This may change in future updates.
- Capable of loading the GUI shown in this thread, but with some more work and a few downfalls (read below)
- Has the option to turn off subtitles by default (unlike PBO's firmware)
- Download: http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22804&postcount=807
P61-Beta- (BC16+).mega.YT.4opt
- Modified PBO stock firmware
- All (?) IMS options available (including youtube)
- Capable of getting the GUI shown in this thread.
- In order to do so, generate thumbgen files and import into TViXiE2Playon!HD to create RSS jukebox feeds (instructions below)
- Download: http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29627#post29627
ThumbGen Instructions (VERY BRIEF)
(NOTE, following instructions are the layouts I chose. Do the following with only a couple of movies and by the end you'll learn enough to do things the way you want):
1) Place each movie file in its own folder
2) Download and run thumbgen (http://www.thumbgen.tk)
3) Download http://www.wdtvlive.net/showthread.php?1-Dribblers-Template-Mega-Pack and http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WRFU0CTC and place in the templates folder of thumbgen
4) Under options, choose to generate 3 movie sheets (main, extra, spare), media info as .nfo file, and a thumbnail.
5) Under moviesheet options, choose 1 Wall, 1 Sheet, and 1 STD for the three moviesheet templates
6) Under "Input/Output" options, rename the spare moviesheet to "$M\$F_sheet2"
7) Generate the files for the movies you want.
8) NOTE if you use auto mode, thumbgen RANDOMLY selects the fanart/background for you. If this is a concern, then either use the manual mode or generate your own fanart/background, save it to the respective movie folders and tell thumbgen to look there for its art.
TViXiE2Playon!HD Instructions
1) Download TViXiE2Playon!HD(Build.2010.9.7) from http://www.acryan.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=5305&start=360
2) Run TViXiE2Playon!HD and fill in:
- "Place Jukbox Folder in" : select your movie folder or perhaps its parent folder.
- "POHD Jukebox Path" : select RSS, and choose accordingly.
- NOTE for USB jukeboxes. sda1 and sdb1 are not the front and back usb ports of the PBO respectively. sda1 is the first usb volume plugged in and sdb1 is the second. Keep that in mind for if you usually have a usb device hooked up to your PBO at all times.
- To find out what a USB volume has been mounted as, telnet to your device and look under something like /tmp/usbmounts/. Telnet instructions below, under "Add this new jukebox path to your PBO:"
- "POHD Temp Path" : leave as /tmp/
- Populate with your movie files
Under "Build Jukebox Menu" -> "Profile" Choose ThumbGen Sample 1
- Populate the following with the files generated from ThumbGen
- "Meta Data FileName" : the nfo file
- "Movies Info FileName": STD file
- "Small Poster FileName": Thumbnail
- "MovieSheet Filename" : Sheet file
- "Custom Filename" : Wall file
- Click Save
Under "MenuView"
- go through each of the Categories Type and replace all instances of Template "yamj" with "RSS"
- depending on which wall template you chose, select 1x15.template or 1x15_2.template for "MovieWallView" under categories type "All"
- Click Build Menu
Add this new jukebox path to your PBO:
- Do this by downloading "putty" and open
- Telnet to your PBO (fill in ip address and select telnet)
- Login is "root"
- type "mount -o remount,rw /" to remount everything as writable.
- use the ls command to list the current directories and the cd command to navigate
- use the "vi" command to edit Movie_Jukebox.rss ("vi /usr/local/bin/scripts/Movie_Jukebox/Movie_Jukebox.rss")
- google "vi commands" for help. Helpful commands: press i to start editing. ESC to stop editing. ":x" to save and exit. ":q!" to exit without saving.
And there you go, select Mediajukebox under IMS on your PBO and all should be good.
Concluding Notes/Summary
- P61-Beta- (BC16+).mega.YT.4opt can get you a really good looking GUI. BUT these are pre-rendered pages. To update (imdb rating for example) means to rerun thumbgen and TViXiE2Playon!HD. Also makes things a bit "inelegant" since all the PBO is doing is changing pictures rather than being a real-time menu.
- ACRBO has yamj but currently is unskinable. The pages are real-time and not prerendered so it "feels more legit" BUT currently looks like crappola. The main menu does look better than PBO's though. The better looking GUI (RSS) is possible with this firmware as well but has the same drawbacks as P61-Beta- (BC16+).mega.YT.4opt in that regard.
- MedeBO probably has the best looking real-time(?) GUI, but still doesn't look that great.
In other words, if you were hoping for something like XBMC, keep wishing. There's a very good explanation of why it will probably never happen (google it). I want to thank AASOROR for all his work and help, but I want to point out that this thread was a little misleading on both the simplicity, and flexibility of the device. Yes you can mod this thing to look good, but it's more of a "front" than an actual mod. The closest so far is yamj if they can figure out the skinning, or MedeBo if they keep working on their firmware, but it's still very far from anything like xbmc.That said, it's GREAT for its price (with its 1080p capabilities). But depending on what your intentions for this device are, you may want to reconsider.
nosnoop
Mar 18th, 2011, 04:51 AM
I installed P02 firmware, and then MedeBO. I wanted to setup a movie wall, but that is where the confusion starts. Am I supposed to setup BOTH YAMJ and Y2M, or just Y2M? Am I supposed to run both programs simultaneously?
Can someone please provide quick tips on how to quickly and effectively setup a nice moviewall for MedeBO?
For MedeBO, basically, no set up is required!
You put each movie in its own folder. MedeBO would look for two image files in each movie folder - folder.jpg and about.jpg.
If folder.jpg is found, it will be used as the videowall thumbnail. And when you click on the thumbnail, the about.jpg "movie sheet" would be displayed if found.
Programs like thumbgen (the one I used) would search and generate folder.jpg and about.jpg automatically for each movie, thus making life easy for you.
And it is entirely up to you how you want to organize the folders. You can put them in genre folders, years or everything in one big folder. MedeBO does not require any XML files.
To start using the videowall, you first need to assign which folder to appear in the videowall. Use media browser to highlight the folder you want, then press "Menu" and select add to videowall icon.
That folder would appear in the videowall. Inside videowall, you can optionally assign a cover art for the 1st folder (use menu button). Subfolders would use folder.jpg automatically.
Finally, if I want to run Youtube and other streaming video from the internet, should I be going with ACRBO instead?
Probably as MedeBO does not support streaming video.
PS: For MedeBO, you don't need any of the instructions posted in #3591 above.
Evil Baby
Mar 19th, 2011, 12:14 AM
Hopefully this week I will get Tversity to work with my PBO(hopefully it wont be difficult), however does anybody know if its possible to setup tversity to work with usvideo.ca? If not I'd pretty much need a dedicated machine just so I could stream to the PBO box, that would kind of suck. Currently I have my 360 setup to the alternative dns settings but there is no Hulu on that and I haven't tested to see hwo it will affect game play yet.
BenK
Mar 19th, 2011, 12:58 AM
Just want to check, but the PBO will take this drive right?
http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=15_215_217&item_id=031118
cliffc
Mar 19th, 2011, 01:03 AM
Just want to check, but the PBO will take this drive right?
http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=15_215_217&item_id=031118
Yes, but u should have got it a week ago when it was 59.99
BenK
Mar 19th, 2011, 01:08 AM
Yes, but u should have got it a week ago when it was 59.99
It's okay, PM ftw.
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX30536(ME).aspx
ppl4golf
Mar 19th, 2011, 01:43 AM
Yes, but u should have got it a week ago when it was 59.99
It's okay, PM ftw.
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX30536(ME).aspx
$49.99 FTW...
I got one for myself and one for a buddy...all at different times and stores.
As mentioned numerous times, there is no dire need for the internet HDD unless you have no LAN port available to access shared files.
aasoror
Mar 19th, 2011, 02:02 AM
Hopefully this week I will get Tversity to work with my PBO(hopefully it wont be difficult), however does anybody know if its possible to setup tversity to work with usvideo.ca? If not I'd pretty much need a dedicated machine just so I could stream to the PBO box, that would kind of suck. Currently I have my 360 setup to the alternative dns settings but there is no Hulu on that and I haven't tested to see hwo it will affect game play yet.
I think I missed something, don't you need a PC to run Tversity any way ? why not setup usvideo.ca on it ?!
aasoror
Mar 19th, 2011, 02:14 AM
Thanks!
I've finally decided to get the PBO primarily because it can play .mkv and .iso. Just needed some opinion on the following:
1) for hard drive go with NAS (WD My Book Live 1TB) connected through Ethernet to the PBO; or
2) get an internal 2.5inch hard drive?
Basically, I have the first one already but can I use that for PBO to display and play files properly? Also being a "bittorrent" (or whatever the term is) can I use the PBO to download torrents while they save on the network drive?
Thanks in advance!
- internal HDD is only needed if you are going to use the PBO on the go, if have very high bitrates ISO's or MKVs which stutter on the network and can fit on a USB flash or if you want to torrent on the box.
- torrenting over the network can be done but its a little bit involved.
BB88
Mar 19th, 2011, 03:16 AM
any idea if the recent ones from ncix or ME have the dd+ chipset?
Phils
Mar 19th, 2011, 07:59 AM
any idea if the recent ones from ncix or ME have the dd+ chipset?
I bought one from NCIX last month. How can I tell? I'll take a look and reply.
audit13
Mar 19th, 2011, 10:37 AM
any idea if the recent ones from ncix or ME have the dd+ chipset?
Do you mean the 1073DD C+ chipset? I got a PBO in mid-Feb/11 from the ncix Markham warehouse and it did not have the C+ chip.
audit13
Mar 19th, 2011, 10:38 AM
I bought one from NCIX last month. How can I tell? I'll take a look and reply.
You need to load medebo or acrbo and then look under system information to determine the chip installed in the PBO.
itrocks4u
Mar 19th, 2011, 11:02 AM
Thanks for the reply!
A couple more questions,
1) do you guys recommend a specific retailer? I was thinking tiger direct to buy the box, but should I instead get it from ME or NCIX? Especially so I have more chances of getting the c+ chipset.
2) the Ethernet port on the patriot is NOT a gigabit Ethernet port right? Would you guys recommend getting wireless N adapter? I already have the router capable of N speeds.
imnew
Mar 19th, 2011, 11:35 AM
Anyone in Mississauga knows how to set this unit up? I'm kind of computer iliterate so don't want to take a chance to mess up this unit...
If you can help me that would be great... Willing to pay extra for this unit.. 55.00 + tax + setup fee....
PM me if you want to... and let me know how much u want to charge...
thanks..
ppl4golf
Mar 19th, 2011, 11:40 AM
Thanks for the reply!
A couple more questions,
1) do you guys recommend a specific retailer? I was thinking tiger direct to buy the box, but should I instead get it from ME or NCIX? Especially so I have more chances of getting the c+ chipset.
2) the Ethernet port on the patriot is NOT a gigabit Ethernet port right? Would you guys recommend getting wireless N adapter? I already have the router capable of N speeds.
Regardless of which network interface you use, the PBO network transfer speed is one slow-mo molasses around 5-6MB/s....so, it's not even at the 10/100 speed. Any wireless you can assume it is worse and less reliable.
The above speed is enough for streaming 99% of contents. It's just not practical to transfer files to the internal HDD via network.
Evil Baby
Mar 19th, 2011, 11:57 AM
I think I missed something, don't you need a PC to run Tversity any way ? why not setup usvideo.ca on it ?!
yeah I do need a computer anyways, but I didn't want my main machine to always run through usvideo.ca. Not sure how it affects other downloads sinces its not a vpn? it's just the dns settings, I'm not sure how it works exactly.
aasoror
Mar 19th, 2011, 12:38 PM
yeah I do need a computer anyways, but I didn't want my main machine to always run through usvideo.ca. Not sure how it affects other downloads sinces its not a vpn? it's just the dns settings, I'm not sure how it works exactly.
I wouldn't worry about that, usvideo.ca are just proxying Hulu and other US content websites, while in theory its not that safe (because they can use the same method to proxy your bank website or something) but apparently so far only limited US websites are being proxied while any other address request gets translated as usual.
aasoror
Mar 19th, 2011, 12:39 PM
any idea if the recent ones from ncix or ME have the dd+ chipset?
Any results now would be inconclusive, I have contacted PM and they confirmed that the production lines where mingled.
Evil Baby
Mar 19th, 2011, 12:40 PM
I wouldn't worry about that, usvideo.ca are just proxying Hulu and other US content websites, while in theory its not that safe (because they can use the same method to proxy your bank website or something) but apparently so far only limited US websites are being proxied while any other address request gets translated as usual.
Ah, well that is good to hear. I just don't want to be using newsgroups and this service if its going to be affected. Is there any reason to use playon over tversity? I don't feel like paying $39.99 for something I can get free.
spinbot
Mar 19th, 2011, 12:41 PM
Anyone using the PBO as a front-end for an UnRaid Media Server? I've recently moved and the layout of the home now requires I get one more front end device. I presently have a Popcorn Hour A-110 running on my primary home theatre. I have WDTV as well ( but no Ethernet, despite knowing I can load a custom firmware and a USB-Ethernet Adapter ). I was looking to test out another device and this one seems like a cheap one to give a try (another Popcorn Hour would be great, but... as i just moved and have to fix my flooded house before I can sell it, I'm working with a limited budget ).
I'm just curious if anyone is running the PBO-UnRaid setup and how well it works ( especially with a large library as I have ripped over 2000 DVD's I owned to the server ).
Thanks
aasoror
Mar 19th, 2011, 01:08 PM
Anyone using the PBO as a front-end for an UnRaid Media Server?
The PBO is able to access SAMBA (from the menu) and NFS (edits via telnet) shares as well as UPnP server (from menu).
aasoror
Mar 19th, 2011, 01:48 PM
Is there any reason to use playon over tversity? I don't feel like paying $39.99 for something I can get free.
Well the premium content (anything beside youtube) on Tversity isn't free any way.
I know (not sure if its still apply on the recent Tversity versions) that you need to a Tversity configuration file set up for the PBO to allow proper streaming from Tversity.
For Playon non is needed.
Evil Baby
Mar 19th, 2011, 03:10 PM
Well the premium content (anything beside youtube) on Tversity isn't free any way.
I know (not sure if its still apply on the recent Tversity versions) that you need to a Tversity configuration file set up for the PBO to allow proper streaming from Tversity.
For Playon non is needed.
cost money? really? damn, I used to use it a year or more ago to stream to my 360 without paying. Must have been something different. Blarg. Might go with playon then since it has an official app.
audit13
Mar 19th, 2011, 05:11 PM
Thanks for the reply!
A couple more questions,
1) do you guys recommend a specific retailer? I was thinking tiger direct to buy the box, but should I instead get it from ME or NCIX? Especially so I have more chances of getting the c+ chipset.
2) the Ethernet port on the patriot is NOT a gigabit Ethernet port right? Would you guys recommend getting wireless N adapter? I already have the router capable of N speeds.
If you want to bitstream HD audio to a decoder and you have content with HD audio streams, the C+ chip is necessary; otherwise, non-C+ chips are fine. In the GTA, there seems to be no consistent supply of PBOs with the C+ chips.
aasoror
Mar 19th, 2011, 08:17 PM
cost money? really? damn, I used to use it a year or more ago to stream to my 360 without paying. Must have been something different. Blarg. Might go with playon then since it has an official app.
Well their content scheme changed once they introduced the Tversity Pro (http://tversity.com/pro/).
JWL
Mar 20th, 2011, 12:51 PM
I'm using MedeBO and am having trouble with the video wall. I have my genre folders showing up there and my movie folders are in those. But the movie DVD images aren't showing up, just a generic placeholder. Images are <75kb.
Any ideas what is wrong?
boblepp
Mar 20th, 2011, 04:19 PM
Get it for $55 after PMing @ ME/NCIX for $85 (Infonec price) then apply the $30 MIR.
Tried PM at 3 CC stores, best they would go is $94
Did online order NCIX with requested Infonec match at 84.99, and now the waiting.......
aasoror
Mar 20th, 2011, 04:42 PM
When using MedeBO how do I add a shortcut to use the video wall?
Add a machine shortcut for your file server (Browse -> Net -> Shortcuts)
Open the shortcut and navigate to the folder you want to add to the video wall (highlight it and don't enter it) then press the menu button on the remote and choose the option to add to movie wall.
Go back and open the movie wall and the folder should be there.
Tried PM at 3 CC stores, best they would go is $94
Did online order NCIX with requested Infonec match at 84.99, and now the waiting.......
CC has a non existing PM policy.
NCIX has been very inconsistent with their PM policy, but if you were not successful there is plenty of stock at Memory Express which has a perfect record for PM'ing the PBO.
boblepp
Mar 20th, 2011, 05:15 PM
..snip...
NCIX has been very inconsistent with their PM policy, but if you were not successful there is plenty of stock at Memory Express which has a perfect record for PM'ing the PBO.
Thanks! But it's a long drive to Winnipeg from Aurora. and $13.25 shipping from ME makes it CC by a nose or NCIX as I can drive to either.
JWL
Mar 20th, 2011, 05:20 PM
Add a machine shortcut for your file server (Browse -> Net -> Shortcuts)
Open the shortcut and navigate to the folder you want to add to the video wall (highlight it and don't enter it) then press the menu button on the remote and choose the option to add to movie wall.
Go back and open the movie wall and the folder should be there..
Thanks for your response. But I did get a bit farther and revised my question to below. Any ideas on that?
I'm using MedeBO and am having trouble with the video wall. I have my genre folders showing up there and my movie folders are in those. But the movie DVD images aren't showing up, just a generic placeholder. Images are <75kb.
Any ideas what is wrong?
aasoror
Mar 20th, 2011, 07:30 PM
I'm using MedeBO and am having trouble with the video wall. I have my genre folders showing up there and my movie folders are in those. But the movie DVD images aren't showing up, just a generic placeholder. Images are <75kb.
Any ideas what is wrong?
What do you mean by "movie DVD images" ? whats inside the movie folders ? DVD ISO's or DVD folder rips (IFO's with VOBs and the rest of the structure) ?
imnew
Mar 20th, 2011, 08:46 PM
Get it for $55 after PMing @ ME/NCIX for $85 (Infonec price) then apply the $30 MIR.
Aasoror - am I supposed to just order it online from ME and then call in for PM? or should I just call in tomorrow and request PM at the same time...
thanks..
Matryx
Mar 20th, 2011, 08:56 PM
anyone know other way to FF with the MedeBO firmware. I tried using the Go To button and then pressing enter but it does nothing.
aasoror
Mar 20th, 2011, 09:03 PM
Aasoror - am I supposed to just order it online from ME and then call in for PM? or should I just call in tomorrow and request PM at the same time...
thanks..
I haven't tried phone shopping with ME before, but for PM'ing online orders check the last part of the OP.
Best of luck,
itrocks4u
Mar 21st, 2011, 11:41 AM
Do the videos streamed through PBO on a network stutter a lot when played over a wired connection? Especially 1080p .mkv and .iso files?
Also would you suggest a 'n' wireless adapter or wired connection is still better?
Lastly, do different firmwares impact the performance of streaming videos? I was about to order it but maybe it's better to go for WDTV player instead?
BenK
Mar 21st, 2011, 11:56 AM
- internal HDD is only needed if you are going to use the PBO on the go, if have very high bitrates ISO's or MKVs which stutter on the network and can fit on a USB flash or if you want to torrent on the box.
- torrenting over the network can be done but its a little bit involved.
Yea, that's why I am looking to get an internal HDD. Can't run a LAN cable to the PBO and streaming over WiFi has been choppy during the action scenes of most of the movies I have.
JWL
Mar 21st, 2011, 12:17 PM
What do you mean by "movie DVD images" ? whats inside the movie folders ? DVD ISO's or DVD folder rips (IFO's with VOBs and the rest of the structure) ?
Sorry about the poor terminology. I mean that I don't see the DVD cover art image even though that image is in the movie file folder.
In the USB hard drive, I have this file structure (using Invictus as a typical movie):
C:
Action folder
Invictus folder
Invictus.avi
Invictus.jpg = DVD cover art
When I open the Action folder on the Movie Wall, there is a placeholder for the Invictus movie and if I choose it I get the movie, but I was expecting to see the Invictus cover art that is in that folder.
aasoror
Mar 21st, 2011, 12:23 PM
Sorry about the poor terminology. I mean that I don't see the DVD cover art image even though that image is in the movie file folder.
In the USB hard drive, I have this file structure (using Invictus as a typical movie):
C:
Action folder
Invictus folder
Invictus.avi
Invictus.jpg = DVD cover art
When I open the Action folder on the Movie Wall, there is a placeholder for the Invictus movie and if I choose it I get the movie, but I was expecting to see the Invictus cover art that is in that folder.
That explains it, coverarts and sheets needs to have specific names and sizes (else it wont be picked up for the moviewall), check the pdf included with the medeBO firmware for further info.
jpleau
Mar 21st, 2011, 12:24 PM
Sorry about the poor terminology. I mean that I don't see the DVD cover art image even though that image is in the movie file folder.
In the USB hard drive, I have this file structure (using Invictus as a typical movie):
C:
Action folder
Invictus folder
Invictus.avi
Invictus.jpg = DVD cover art
When I open the Action folder on the Movie Wall, there is a placeholder for the Invictus movie and if I choose it I get the movie, but I was expecting to see the Invictus cover art that is in that folder.
Invictus.jpg = DVD cover art ---> This file needs to be named folder.jpg
That's all that is missing for the cover art to display.
aasoror
Mar 21st, 2011, 12:48 PM
Invictus.jpg = DVD cover art ---> This file needs to be named folder.jpg
That's all that is missing for the cover art to display.
Not exactly .. there much more into it than the file name.
Each Movie or Video must have a cover art image in its folder in order to display the image on the
Video Wall. We suggest you use thumbnail sized images for the folder.jpg and the ideal pixel size is
156 x 232 pixel. At max the folder.jpg should be no bigger than 250 pixel width for fast Video Wall
navigation.
The Video Wall will filter any folder.jpg that is larger than 75k and show no image.
Thats why I referred him to the included pdf (which also has links for resizing utilities).
ppl4golf
Mar 21st, 2011, 01:02 PM
Yea, that's why I am looking to get an internal HDD. Can't run a LAN cable to the PBO and streaming over WiFi has been choppy during the action scenes of most of the movies I have.
That can fix most stutter problem due to LAN.
LAN is still better than pretty much anything wireless.
The thing about internal HDD is that it is not the most convenient way to get the PBO loaded.
LAN is way too slow (5MB/s)
Hook PBO as external drive is better (25MB/s)
Best way is 2.5" external HDD, no power, 25-30MB/s transfer.
JWL
Mar 21st, 2011, 01:21 PM
Invictus.jpg = DVD cover art ---> This file needs to be named folder.jpg
That's all that is missing for the cover art to display.
Thanks.
I had interpreted the instruction to use "folder.jpg" meant insert-folder-name-here.jpg because that is what WDTV requires. I will change them to literally folder.jpg.
Mr Nobody
Mar 21st, 2011, 01:53 PM
There is no video wall files to be saved :)
The video wall consists of 2 images (backdrop and movie cover) which are saved where the media resides, so once you reflash just add the media folder to the movie wall and you are done
I mean how do I save the movie wall so I don't have to read all the media folders to it? And how to reorder it since it stays in the order it was added in.
Mr Nobody
Mar 21st, 2011, 01:56 PM
Anyone in Mississauga knows how to set this unit up? I'm kind of computer iliterate so don't want to take a chance to mess up this unit...
If you can help me that would be great... Willing to pay extra for this unit.. 55.00 + tax + setup fee....
PM me if you want to... and let me know how much u want to charge...
thanks..
What kind of set up are you looking for? Just use it the way it is out of the box first.
Mr Nobody
Mar 21st, 2011, 01:57 PM
I mean how do I save the movie wall so I don't have to read all the media folders to it? And how to reorder it since it stays in the order it was added in.
That should be "re-add" not "read".
redgrandam
Mar 21st, 2011, 02:12 PM
That can fix most stutter problem due to LAN.
LAN is still better than pretty much anything wireless.
The thing about internal HDD is that it is not the most convenient way to get the PBO loaded.
LAN is way too slow (5MB/s)
Hook PBO as external drive is better (25MB/s)
Best way is 2.5" external HDD, no power, 25-30MB/s transfer.
I've been getting some serious stuttering with mkv's over wifi. I just started using them (previously just used AVI's for most things). Will having a hard drive in it actually help with that? Does it automatically buffer with a drive inside? I had one in it before but I found I wasn't really using it so I took it out. I don't really want to have to copy the files over to it to play everytime, but wouldn't mind the stuttering to stop.
TrueDon
Mar 21st, 2011, 02:23 PM
That can fix most stutter problem due to LAN.
LAN is still better than pretty much anything wireless.
The thing about internal HDD is that it is not the most convenient way to get the PBO loaded.
LAN is way too slow (5MB/s)
Hook PBO as external drive is better (25MB/s)
Best way is 2.5" external HDD, no power, 25-30MB/s transfer.
How has peoples experience been streaming 1080p/720p content on the PBO over LAN? Even though it's only 100MBit NIC I thought it would transfer faster than 5MB/s. I just picked up my PBO on the weekend was planning on streaming from my WHS.
BenK
Mar 21st, 2011, 03:01 PM
That can fix most stutter problem due to LAN.
LAN is still better than pretty much anything wireless.
The thing about internal HDD is that it is not the most convenient way to get the PBO loaded.
LAN is way too slow (5MB/s)
Hook PBO as external drive is better (25MB/s)
Best way is 2.5" external HDD, no power, 25-30MB/s transfer.
So the only benefit of having an external via USB over internal HDD is the ability to move the movie from Computer to PBO faster?
i.e. [Download movie onto the computer, move it via USB onto external, plug external into PBO] is faster than [Download movie onto the computer and move it via network onto PBO internal].
ppl4golf
Mar 21st, 2011, 04:45 PM
I've been getting some serious stuttering with mkv's over wifi. I just started using them (previously just used AVI's for most things). Will having a hard drive in it actually help with that? Does it automatically buffer with a drive inside? I had one in it before but I found I wasn't really using it so I took it out. I don't really want to have to copy the files over to it to play everytime, but wouldn't mind the stuttering to stop.
You have good imagination but of course it does NOT...ditch the WiFi if possible. Otherwise, try powerline adapter, wireless bridge??, or best hardwire with CAT5/6.
I can do wireless on most 720p content but it can still stutter.
I'd either use a USB stick or 2.5" HDD to play back on the PBO without ethernet.
The internal HDD is sleek but you have to unhook to load it up and that's a PITA.
audit13
Mar 21st, 2011, 04:47 PM
The internal HDD is sleek but you have to unhook to load it up and that's a PITA.
+1. I installed a 500gb drive and used the PBO itself to transfer files from an external usb hard drive to the internal drive (i.e. PBO was not connected to a computer). It took a very long time. I found it easier take the internal drive and make it portable external.
ppl4golf
Mar 21st, 2011, 05:20 PM
How has peoples experience been streaming 1080p/720p content on the PBO over LAN? Even though it's only 100MBit NIC I thought it would transfer faster than 5MB/s. I just picked up my PBO on the weekend was planning on streaming from my WHS.
Plug in CAT5/6 to LAN is the best option by a mile...however, these LAN ports are not good enough to fly a whole whack of data (like tens of GBs) from the PC to the internal HDD you installed inside the PBO. For watching, 99% no problem.
So the only benefit of having an external via USB over internal HDD is the ability to move the movie from Computer to PBO faster?
i.e. [Download movie onto the computer, move it via USB onto external, plug external into PBO] is faster than [Download movie onto the computer and move it via network onto PBO internal].
It depends on how much data you're talking about. Best way to load up a bunch of data to INTERNAL is unhook...however, that's not something you wanna to do often.
* I once screwed up a 1TB HDD...I tried putting it in an enclosure but none of my computers recognized that drive. WDTV Live recognized it. I COPIED the whole TB of data VIA CAT5 back to one of my computers and it took almost the whole day LOL. So much for WDTV Live being better in LAN speed LOL WD even make a bigger joker out of themselves by putting a gigabit interface on their flagship WDTV HUB with a 1TB HDD. The LAN speed was reported at 15MB/s LOL. AFAIK, the HUB doesn't act like an EXTERNAL HDD if unhooked. Now, that freaking drive is as useless as your HDD in your Rogers or Bell PVR LOL.
boblepp
Mar 21st, 2011, 05:23 PM
Aasoror - am I supposed to just order it online from ME and then call in for PM? or should I just call in tomorrow and request PM at the same time...
thanks..
Entered order online NCIX requesting price match to Infonec (cash only price even) $84.97... NCIX approved it today. Pickup at store so no shipping.
hamdude_1234
Mar 21st, 2011, 06:32 PM
i finally updated my firmware.. still getting most of my files not to play audio but video works fine.. most frustrating...
RastaManMax
Mar 21st, 2011, 07:51 PM
Wow, just got the 1R/2T wireless N adapter from Monoprice and it works at about 1/2 the speed of the original Patriot G card I had in before. I even flashed it because I thought something was screwed when I tried playing an HD file with it. Got it working but it plays about 1 frame every 5-10 seconds.
Is it possible that the PBO can't process wireless speeds fast wireless properly?
- Tried out the adapter on my laptop and it sends files much quicker than the internal wireless G (6-8mb/s). Network usage on my gigabit lan goes past 5% while transferring files.
- PBO branded wireless G card streams 8GB files fine; the new N card can't even stream 700MB files
- When the N card is in the PBO streaming files my gigabit lan shows 0.02% network utilization.
- This is the Realtek card listed on the front of this thread.
itrocks4u
Mar 21st, 2011, 11:05 PM
Finally ordered the patriot box. Pretty excited to set it up!
Although I recently purchased a WD my book live NAS(1TB), would you recommend getting an external hard drive instead (WD my book Essentials 2TB)?
Based on your experiences, is streaming through NAS significantly worse than an external hard drive connected to the USB port or are performance comparable?
philelmo
Mar 22nd, 2011, 12:17 AM
Ok, need some help here...
I upgraded my PBO's firmware to the latest on the patriot's website, everything was great, had instructions and everything, but the torrent component kept on crashing. On the neighborweb (you get there by browsing the ip of the PBO), I would add some torrents but after a short while, all torrents would disappear. I would have to reboot, but that would only be good for a short while...
So, I moved to medebo latest firmware, but I can't login to the ip of the PBO, and I can't browse to it either from another computer. I want to be able to download torrents on it or transfer files from a computer to the PBO. Seem to have lost this capability after moving to medebo.
your suggestions are much appreciated! thanks.
nosnoop
Mar 22nd, 2011, 12:58 AM
I mean how do I save the movie wall so I don't have to read all the media folders to it? And how to reorder it since it stays in the order it was added in.
You cannot.
The videowall is reloaded everytime you turn on the PBO or plug in the USB. Only takes a few seconds.
This is also part of the simplicity of MedeBO, you can load up/change/delete/move the media folders anyway you like without the worry of messing up the videowall. Whatever you changed, it will be reflected next time you power on.
And no, I don't believe you can reorder it. It uses alphabetical order by default; I don't think there is any other options.
imnew
Mar 22nd, 2011, 11:05 AM
LOL - finally took the plunge the order it...
will have to wait and see if the PM with ME will get approved...
Can't wait to play with the unit....
Hopefully it doesn't require much of a techie to set it up..
Anyone wanting to volunteer to help me set it up (Mississauga).... LOL.. PM me....:):)
redgrandam
Mar 22nd, 2011, 11:24 AM
Has anyone else had issues with mede8r (latest port) and the screen saver on it? I have it totally disabled to not come on at all, yet it still comes on. Sometimes I'll be watching a MKV video, and pause it, and the screen saver comes on instantly. When I resume playing the screen saver stays there, and only audio plays. Then I have to exit the video, image comes back, and I have to start the video all over again (from the start usually). Thinking I might go back to the last version and see if that helps. I've reflashed the newest one on twice.
Thanh
Mar 22nd, 2011, 01:12 PM
Quick one, I need to buy 3 PBO for family members. Currently, the best price is 55$ after a 30$ MIR. Should I bite on that or wait for a better deal ?
redgrandam
Mar 22nd, 2011, 01:20 PM
Quick one, I need to buy 3 PBO for family members. Currently, the best price is 55$ after a 30$ MIR. Should I bite on that or wait for a better deal ?
That's a good price, but the MIR is probably one per household.. so you'll have to have all three ordered and shipped separately (even to the proper person's house perhaps) to make sure you get it. You'd have to read the notes on the rebate to be sure
aasoror
Mar 22nd, 2011, 01:23 PM
Quick one, I need to buy 3 PBO for family members. Currently, the best price is 55$ after a 30$ MIR. Should I bite on that or wait for a better deal ?
Thats about the running average for the last 9 months, it was as low as $45 but that was just briefly.
Whenever you decide to bite, remember you need 3 separate receipts for the 3 MIR.
bilaliz
Mar 22nd, 2011, 02:35 PM
is there a way to add live streams to any of the firmwares? i.e from those online tv websites? i know you can add rss feeds, but i couldnt convert any live stream into an rss :(
aasoror
Mar 22nd, 2011, 02:38 PM
is there a way to add live streams to any of the firmwares? i.e from those online tv websites? i know you can add rss feeds, but i couldnt convert any live stream into an rss :(
what is the formate of the life stream ?!
If the live stream is accessed through a web player (like Justin.tv or Rogers .. etc) there is no way you would be able to access it directly on the PBO.
Sylvestre
Mar 23rd, 2011, 09:47 AM
Question - I have a bunch of video podcasts on itunes that I'd like to play using this player. Is it possible? Is it involved in the RSS/IMS stuff or just a case of sharing the itunes folder?
bilaliz
Mar 23rd, 2011, 12:06 PM
what is the formate of the life stream ?!
If the live stream is accessed through a web player (like Justin.tv or Rogers .. etc) there is no way you would be able to access it directly on the PBO.
windows media channels http://www.ajmania.net/tv/geotv.htm
and flash channels i think. something like this http://www.crick3t.net/2011/02/channel-4.html
or some are played in media player like this http://www.channelspk.com/channel/express-news-pakistan.asx
http://www.ajmania.net/tv/geonews1.htm
sorry if this dosnt answer the question correctly, but i am looking to add channels from those sites to my pbo.
BenK
Mar 24th, 2011, 10:11 PM
so i just stuck a new hdd into the PBO, its using MedeBo. How do I access the HDD from my computer? I thought I could just type the ip into the browser but its giving me back a deadlink.
aasoror
Mar 24th, 2011, 10:41 PM
so i just stuck a new hdd into the PBO, its using MedeBo. How do I access the HDD from my computer? I thought I could just type the ip into the browser but its giving me back a deadlink.
Yes thats what you need to do.
But you need to enable NAS mode from the network setup section first.
Aero
Mar 25th, 2011, 11:55 AM
Are the mail in rebate only available at select strores?
aasoror
Mar 25th, 2011, 02:11 PM
Are the mail in rebate only available at select strores?
Yes
boonjaca
Mar 25th, 2011, 02:45 PM
If we're copying files from another patroit box, can we copy the whole movie folder over with the movie file, about.jpg, folder.jpg and the xml file and have it appear in the movie wall or do we have to generate it ourselves?
McLaren
Mar 25th, 2011, 03:27 PM
If we're copying files from another patroit box, can we copy the whole movie folder over with the movie file, about.jpg, folder.jpg and the xml file and have it appear in the movie wall or do we have to generate it ourselves?
You don't have to generate them again, just a straight copy.
BenK
Mar 25th, 2011, 06:38 PM
Yes thats what you need to do.
But you need to enable NAS mode from the network setup section first.
Thanks, I see it on my network list now (as MEDE8ER) but when I try to access it. I get...
Windows cannot access \\MEDE8ER
Check the spelling of the name. Otherwise, there might be a problem with your network. To try to identify and resolve network problems, click Diagnose.
any ideas?
aasoror
Mar 25th, 2011, 09:12 PM
Thanks, I see it on my network list now (as MEDE8ER) but when I try to access it. I get...
any ideas?
You can try using the IP instead of the name, or check your firewall settings on your PC.
aasoror
Mar 25th, 2011, 09:43 PM
http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?p=38965&posted=1#post38965
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LByIoRoj-Ws
audit13
Mar 25th, 2011, 11:09 PM
I know the PBO supports several different audio formats. When playing back an audio file (flac, wav, mp3), does the PBO output the audio as lpcm regardless of the original file format? I'm asking because regardless of what I played on my PBO via hdmi, my 3.5 year old receiver was able to work with the signal and play it back even though the avr's manual makes no reference to flac, wav, mp3.
Any info on this subject would be appreciated. Thanks.
bilaliz
Mar 28th, 2011, 11:52 AM
http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?p=38965&posted=1#post38965
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LByIoRoj-Ws
Thanks for the post, i find it strange that those other firmwares are way advanced and the patriot folks havent even added a web link yet i.e for youtube etc. kinda disappointing.
ppl4golf
Mar 28th, 2011, 11:58 AM
Thanks for the post, i find it strange that those other firmwares are way advanced and the patriot folks havent even added a web link yet i.e for youtube etc. kinda disappointing.
I used official firmware for the longest time...seriously, there is no good reason to stay with it unless you do IMS.
MEDE8OR is in every way, better for watching a movie.
syntex101
Mar 28th, 2011, 12:17 PM
Does anyone know if you can use this to connect to your TV and use your TV as a normal monitor?
Or if it can stream ppstream (kind of like youtube but for Chinese shows and it has it's own desktop application) to your TV - if so do you need custom firmware? I need to set this up for parents and grandparents. Thanks for answering.
BenK
Mar 28th, 2011, 03:07 PM
Finally got the internal HDD to show up as a NAS and jeeeeezzz it is slow transferring over wifi. absolutely brutal.
kingrukus
Mar 28th, 2011, 05:42 PM
Can anyone post a quick tutorial on how to setup Y2M so that I can use it to create a wall via MedeBo? I have no clue how to, and my Y2M seems very user-unfriendly - I unzipped the installation file (Beta 6), and it doesn't create short cuts or anything...
Also the YAMJ posted on the first or 2nd post here doesn't seem to be the right one we need if using MedeBo? It is for some guy named AC Ryan? Who is AC Ryan?
ppl4golf
Mar 28th, 2011, 08:35 PM
Can anyone post a quick tutorial on how to setup Y2M so that I can use it to create a wall via MedeBo? I have no clue how to, and my Y2M seems very user-unfriendly - I unzipped the installation file (Beta 6), and it doesn't create short cuts or anything...
Also the YAMJ posted on the first or 2nd post here doesn't seem to be the right one we need if using MedeBo? It is for some guy named AC Ryan? Who is AC Ryan?
He wears face paint, actually war paint to scare people and he is a rock star.
betamaxman
Mar 30th, 2011, 08:26 AM
Can anyone post a quick tutorial on how to setup Y2M so that I can use it to create a wall via MedeBo? I have no clue how to, and my Y2M seems very user-unfriendly - I unzipped the installation file (Beta 6), and it doesn't create short cuts or anything...
Also the YAMJ posted on the first or 2nd post here doesn't seem to be the right one we need if using MedeBo? It is for some guy named AC Ryan? Who is AC Ryan?
All you need for the wall with mebebo is to have each movie in it's own folder, a movie sheet jpeg named 'about', a folder jpeg named folder, and an info file. You can also have all the movie folders in one folder or folders for each genre.
Then in the media library pane you manually add short cuts to the folder that contains the movies you want to add. You can see how the short cuts are added in the mede8er videos on you tube. Use thumbgen for mede8er to add the mentioned jpegs, and info file.
itrocks4u
Mar 30th, 2011, 08:59 AM
Do I have to have my mail in rebate form submitted by the 31st? Or i have 30 days to postmark it from my order date?
nicknam4e
Mar 30th, 2011, 09:13 AM
Just received my PBO after RMA, work like a charm, but i wonder i i have to resent the mail in rebate ?
itrocks4u
Mar 30th, 2011, 09:23 AM
Just received my PBO after RMX, work like a charm, but i wonder i i have to resent the mail in rebate ?
Did you upload one of the custom firmwares? Or just played out of the box?
imnew
Mar 30th, 2011, 03:56 PM
Did you upload one of the custom firmwares? Or just played out of the box?
Just received mine too... Wondering what I need to do next to make the screen looks good as some of you guys showed here....
(not too computer literate unfortunately..... anyone in Mississauga can help me set it up.... PM me... LOL.....
aasoror
Mar 30th, 2011, 06:07 PM
Finally got the internal HDD to show up as a NAS and jeeeeezzz it is slow transferring over wifi. absolutely brutal.
Bulk transfer isn't this box's strongest point, you can reach 5~7 MB/s (on wired depending on your FW), YMMV for wifi, if you really want to do bulk transfer you can either invest in an external HDD of big flash drive or just hock the PBO to your PC via USB.
Do I have to have my mail in rebate form submitted by the 31st? Or i have 30 days to postmark it from my order date?
30 days from the invoice date.
Just received my PBO after RMA, work like a charm, but i wonder i i have to resent the mail in rebate ?
Nope you don't, RMA is managed by PM support, while rebates are managed by the rebate agent, their records aren't related.
Just received mine too... Wondering what I need to do next to make the screen looks good as some of you guys showed here....
easiest way is:
- upgrade to the latest MedeBO from the PBO wiki (linked in my sig below).
- download Y2M from mede8er support website (http://www.mede8er.com/mede8er_support.html).
- follow the instructions here (http://www.mede8er.com/mede8er_y2m_user_guide.html)to build the movie wall files.
- follow the instructions here (http://www.mede8er.com/mede8er_video_wall_user_guide.html)to add new folders to the movie wall (also available is in the pdf available with the firmware image).
Best of luck,
imnew
Mar 30th, 2011, 09:39 PM
Just to clarify, if I want to do this. I will have to have a folder for each movie? That's going to be a lot of work... currently I have all movies in one movie folder....
easiest way is:
- upgrade to the latest MedeBO from the PBO wiki (linked in my sig below).
- download Y2M from mede8er support website (http://www.mede8er.com/mede8er_support.html).
- follow the instructions here (http://www.mede8er.com/mede8er_y2m_user_guide.html)to build the movie wall files.
- follow the instructions here (http://www.mede8er.com/mede8er_video_wall_user_guide.html)to add new folders to the movie wall (also available is in the pdf available with the firmware image).
Best of luck,[/QUOTE]
aasoror
Mar 30th, 2011, 09:46 PM
Just to clarify, if I want to do this. I will have to have a folder for each movie? That's going to be a lot of work... currently I have all movies in one movie folder....
Yes you will have to do so, sorry :cry:
Rick007
Mar 30th, 2011, 10:25 PM
Enter the following into a blank Notepad file, and save it as make_dir.bat. Run it in the folder that contains all your movies. It will create sub folders with the same name as your existing movies, and then move the movie into the folder. I want to give credit to Totoriko who posted this in post #812 http://forums.redflagdeals.com/patriot-box-office-owners-deals-thread-30-mir-60-a-904509/55/#post11358061
After creating the folders I would start Thumgen in the top level folder and walk away for a few hours and let it create your folder.jpg and about.jpg.
If you named the movies accurately, and hopefully included the year in the filename, Thumbgen will do a good job.
@echo off
for /f "delims=" %%a in ('dir /b') do (
if not "%%~fa"=="%~f0" (
md "%%~na" 2>nul
if exist "%%a" move "%%~na.*" "%%~na"
)
)
kingrukus
Mar 30th, 2011, 11:22 PM
Enter the following into a blank Notepad file, and save it as make_dir.bat. Run it in the folder that contains all your movies. It will create sub folders with the same name as your existing movies, and then move the movie into the folder. I want to give credit to Totoriko who posted this in post #812 http://forums.redflagdeals.com/patriot-box-office-owners-deals-thread-30-mir-60-a-904509/55/#post11358061
After creating the folders I would start Thumgen in the top level folder and walk away for a few hours and let it create your folder.jpg and about.jpg.
If you named the movies accurately, and hopefully included the year in the filename, Thumbgen will do a good job.
@echo off
for /f "delims=" %%a in ('dir /b') do (
if not "%%~fa"=="%~f0" (
md "%%~na" 2>nul
if exist "%%a" move "%%~na.*" "%%~na"
)
)
AWESOME! Thanks for posting this!
What is the difference between thumbgen and y2m?
itrocks4u
Mar 31st, 2011, 12:21 PM
(not too computer literate unfortunately..... anyone in Mississauga can help me set it up.... PM me... LOL.....
I'd help you out, but even I don't know what to do with it lol.
aasoror
Mar 31st, 2011, 12:50 PM
Today is the last day of the $30 MIR.
By the way, NCIX is selling the official N adapter (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55310&vpn=PCBOWAU2-N&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1306) for $15 this week.
imnew
Mar 31st, 2011, 01:19 PM
I'd help you out, but even I don't know what to do with it lol.
LOL - U mean we can brick the unit together.... LOL.....
Rick007
Mar 31st, 2011, 03:33 PM
What is the difference between thumbgen and y2m?
YAMJ collects all the movie information off the web, but doesn't format it for use with the Medebo firmware. Y2M takes the files created with YAMJ and converts them into a format that Medbo needs.
Thumbgen can create the required folder.jpg and about.jpg images directly in a single pass (after choosing the correct options).
I found that YAMJ was much faster at collecting the data, but it was pain needing two programs. Thumbgen can run in auto mode, so it really doesn't matter to me if it's slower. Once your entire movie collection is completed, the speed difference will be minimal when adding the occasional new movie.
packardbell
Mar 31st, 2011, 03:37 PM
AWESOME! Thanks for posting this!
What is the difference between thumbgen and y2m?
this is very informative.
aasoror
Mar 31st, 2011, 03:55 PM
I found that YAMJ was much faster at collecting the data, but it was pain needing two programs. Thumbgen can run in auto mode, so it really doesn't matter to me if it's slower. Once your entire movie collection is completed, the speed difference will be minimal when adding the occasional new movie.
You don't need to run two programs, just let Y2M run and it will do both the scrapping and jpg's generation. ;)
kingrukus
Mar 31st, 2011, 04:24 PM
YAMJ collects all the movie information off the web, but doesn't format it for use with the Medebo firmware. Y2M takes the files created with YAMJ and converts them into a format that Medbo needs.
Thumbgen can create the required folder.jpg and about.jpg images directly in a single pass (after choosing the correct options).
I found that YAMJ was much faster at collecting the data, but it was pain needing two programs. Thumbgen can run in auto mode, so it really doesn't matter to me if it's slower. Once your entire movie collection is completed, the speed difference will be minimal when adding the occasional new movie.
So you need to install BOTH YAMJ and Y2M, correct? And when you run Y2M, you must point it back to the installed YAMJ files, right? Also, when I ran Y2M, it correctly downloaded the images for each movie, but it didn't get any data with respect to their ratings, synopsis, etc. Any idea on why this would be?
Rick007
Mar 31st, 2011, 04:44 PM
You don't need to run two programs, just let Y2M run and it will do both the scrapping and jpg's generation. ;)
Agreed , technically you don't need to double click the YAMJ icon to run it, but Y2M does require that YAMJ be installed. Is YAMJ now included in the Y2M download?. Once I tried Thumbgen, I have never looked back at Y2M.
but it didn't get any data with respect to their ratings, synopsis, etc. Any idea on why this would be?
I don't use Y2M, but that data should be in the about.jpg. What does your about.jpg contain?.
aasoror
Apr 1st, 2011, 12:16 PM
Might be useful for others :)
Is there a certain patriot box version i need to get to hack/modify the firmware?
Nope, any will do.
what store is better to buy it from in the gta? Tigerdirect I see has the mail in, but are they good for customer service?
TD's only problem was the shipping charges, they are very good if you picking up locally.
Will the box see, either a non-powered and power external usb hard drives?
Yes it will, (note though that some non-powered USB drives are more power hungry than others, for these drives an externally powered USB hub will do the trick).
will the box play 5.1 sound movies and output 5.1? if so do I need special cables for this?
Yes it will, for HDMI audio receiver just connect PBO->Receiver->TV, for optical input equipped audio receivers just use an optical cable.
also can you give me some websites for tutorials on how to set this up and how to modify it?
Check the wiki in my signature below.
Best of luck,
feet_
Apr 2nd, 2011, 01:20 AM
Thumbs up! thx
itrocks4u
Apr 2nd, 2011, 03:58 PM
easiest way is:
- upgrade to the latest MedeBO from the PBO wiki (linked in my sig below).
- download Y2M from mede8er support website (http://www.mede8er.com/mede8er_support.html).
- follow the instructions here (http://www.mede8er.com/mede8er_y2m_user_guide.html)to build the movie wall files.
- follow the instructions here (http://www.mede8er.com/mede8er_video_wall_user_guide.html)to add new folders to the movie wall (also available is in the pdf available with the firmware image).
Best of luck,
Aasoror,
Being the weekend, I'm finally going to start with the process of setting the PBO up. Just want to know if I should go with the steps above or would you suggest something else? As long as there are instructions that are not too complicated lol I should be okay with following the steps. I was going through the wiki link in your signature and noticed there are a lot of routes to go for the firmwares. Lastly, how do i verify the bootcode (18 or 16)?
Thanks!
shanji
Apr 4th, 2011, 01:03 PM
did anyone get charge shipping fee price matching tigerdirect @ ME, i thought order over $99 was free shipping
RastaManMax
Apr 4th, 2011, 01:11 PM
Patriot is really impressive with their MIR's. I sent it in in Feb. and it came last week. Still waiting on my OCZ MIR from early Dec. and my Seasonic rebate from mid-Jan.
aasoror
Apr 4th, 2011, 01:45 PM
did anyone get charge shipping fee price matching tigerdirect @ ME, i thought order over $99 was free shipping
No you shouldn't because you are checking out based on ME price which is more than $100.
It was a loophole, not sure if they did correct that though.
So when they adjusted the price they deducted shipping from your refund ?
shanji
Apr 4th, 2011, 02:06 PM
i cancle the order since i had to pay shipping fee , i think it was $ 12
the comstumer service said my order was approve but since the item $89.97 i gotta pay shipping
aasoror
Apr 4th, 2011, 02:13 PM
i cancle the order since i had to pay shipping fee , i think it was $ 12
the comstumer service said my order was approve but since the item $89.97 i gotta pay shipping
OK, seems they closed the loophole then, that said, its still fair given that TD isn't running free shipping on the PBO (nor NCIX, CC or the rest of the suppliers).
Asmegin
Apr 4th, 2011, 06:27 PM
I tried searching but didn't find anything...
Is it possible to change the sorting to match programs like iTunes? I'm looking for a way to skip the 'The' in titles. So 'The Fighter' will be under the Fs.
aasoror
Apr 4th, 2011, 06:57 PM
I tried searching but didn't find anything...
Is it possible to change the sorting to match programs like iTunes? I'm looking for a way to skip the 'The' in titles. So 'The Fighter' will be under the Fs.
unfortunately not.
Neb
Apr 5th, 2011, 11:28 AM
I have my PBO for 3 mos now, running the latest Meedebo firmware. The past week, I have had 2 or 3 incidents of it crashing. I would play a movie, and about 30sec into the movie the picture will turn black, but the sound will continue. The PBO becomes unresponsive, the movie continues to play I can not stop it etc.. Have to turn it off and back on again. THe problem is intermittent, anyone have a similar experience with the latest firmware? Using HDMI and optical out.
Rick007
Apr 5th, 2011, 11:48 AM
I have my PBO for 3 mos now, running the latest Meedebo firmware. The past week, I have had 2 or 3 incidents of it crashing. I would play a movie, and about 30sec into the movie the picture will turn black, but the sound will continue. The PBO becomes unresponsive, the movie continues to play I can not stop it etc.. Have to turn it off and back on again. THe problem is intermittent, anyone have a similar experience with the latest firmware? Using HDMI and optical out.
I have been experiencing the same thing recently. I also use Medebo, and have owned my PBO for 3 months.
I'm pretty sure my problem is related to heat. My PBO will turn on by itself, and although the fan is running, and I'm not actively viewing any video, the box still gets quite warm. If the PBO remains off (cool) until I am ready to use it, I can watch an entire movie without the picture turning black.
I have determined that the PBO turns on by itself because my Infrared extender gives off periodic flashes probably caused by RFI. The latest Medebo firmware has helped somewhat but the problem still occurs.
Neb
Apr 5th, 2011, 01:04 PM
I have been experiencing the same thing recently. I also use Medebo, and have owned my PBO for 3 months.
I'm pretty sure my problem is related to heat. My PBO will turn on by itself, and although the fan is running, and I'm not actively viewing any video, the box still gets quite warm. If the PBO remains off (cool) until I am ready to use it, I can watch an entire movie without the picture turning black.
I have determined that the PBO turns on by itself because my Infrared extender gives off periodic flashes probably caused by RFI. The latest Medebo firmware has helped somewhat but the problem still occurs.
Interesting, it does sound very similar. I am pretty sure my PBO is off all the time, only red light lit. and the other green lights are off. And my PBO is in an open area, so mine might not be related to heat issue. I noticed though if I used the Fast forward feature, it causes this crash more often.
seanster
Apr 5th, 2011, 02:44 PM
Yes I have experienced this. Sound plays on but the screen has gone black. I have been able to shut the player down with the remote afterwards. I was also dealing with fast-forwarding and mkv-handbrake problems, so I can't help narrow it down. Shizzle v404 MOD
I have my PBO for 3 mos now, running the latest Meedebo firmware. The past week, I have had 2 or 3 incidents of it crashing. I would play a movie, and about 30sec into the movie the picture will turn black, but the sound will continue. The PBO becomes unresponsive, the movie continues to play I can not stop it etc.. Have to turn it off and back on again. THe problem is intermittent, anyone have a similar experience with the latest firmware? Using HDMI and optical out.
aasoror
Apr 5th, 2011, 03:05 PM
P70R2 official firmware released (BC18+ boxes).
Link on the PM support website or on the wiki.
redgrandam
Apr 5th, 2011, 03:08 PM
Yes I have experienced this. Sound plays on but the screen has gone black. I have been able to shut the player down with the remote afterwards. I was also dealing with fast-forwarding and mkv-handbrake problems, so I can't help narrow it down. Shizzle v404 MOD
I posted a few pages back about the screen saver coming on even though it is disabled. That tends to mess up my screen, and it won't go away. I also get intermittent black screens that require a force reboot as the remote won't do anything, just get audio. Only having problems with the latest MedeBO release so I was just going to wait for the next update to see if it irons out the issues. Sometimes have issues fast forward and rewinding with mkv files in particular.
Rick007
Apr 5th, 2011, 03:34 PM
Only having problems with the latest MedeBO release so I was just going to wait for the next update to see if it irons out the issues. Sometimes have issues fast forward and rewinding with mkv files in particular.
My problem only started after the latest Medebo release as well. It occurred when I was searching back and forth through a MKV file, but after rebooting the PBO , I tried some AVI and MP4 files and the same thing happened. As I said the PBO was quite hot. Perhaps the processor is working extra hard on MKV files, to the point were the heat reaches the breakdown point of the circuitry. My breakdown point probably arrives sooner, because my box turns itself on, and is already warm when I start watching a movie.
aasoror
Apr 5th, 2011, 05:39 PM
My breakdown point probably arrives sooner, because my box turns itself on, and is already warm when I start watching a movie.
The box turning itself on is most probably due the IR conflict with the PBO (it appears to pick up lots of other IR devices remote presses and turns itself on).
If you have heat issues try the cooling mods on the PM forum, the channeling mod is the easiest and most effective mod you can do.
Super strokey
Apr 5th, 2011, 07:43 PM
ok guys im sure that this has been asked before (and i apologize for wasting time if it has) but due to the WD getting netflix now is there more of a push from patriot to get netflix?
Rick007
Apr 5th, 2011, 07:51 PM
If you have heat issues try the cooling mods on the PM forum, the channeling mod is the easiest and most effective mod you can do.
Thanks for the suggestion. I completed the channeling mod in about 10 minutes. I guess only time will tell if it helps the problem.
M1NYA
Apr 5th, 2011, 07:59 PM
For those that haven't noticed the latest official firmware upgrades (March/April), I copied the release notes below. Haven't tried myself...
Just want to send out a huge thanks to aasoror for maintaining this thread, and fighting the good fight on the firmware release front. Thankless job, but much appreciated from a former Norcent DP-300 owner, where every tiny feature add was such a huge deal.. heh heh.
==================
Release Notes: P70R2
Added multi-language updates.
1. Add Movies List Menu. Press [MENU] while movie is playing, video list will appear. User may choose video file to play.
2. Separate Audio output toHDMI output and SPDIF output as two options.
3. Press [AUDIO] to choose left or right single channel audio output.
4. Revise index=-1 issue while switch Audio in BD ISO.
--------------------
Release Notes: P70R1
Added multi-language updates.
1. Revised .mov file playback issue found in P61
2. Revised DVD iso playback in chapter change, the time calculation for VOB fixed
3. Revise subtitle disappearing issue during video playback
4. New UI icons
5. Added background music playback status display icons
Known Bugs:
1. 1080P MKV very high bitrate issue.
2. subtitle turns on after pause with ISO files.
O1IN85
Apr 5th, 2011, 08:02 PM
ME is OOS :cry: for $70 inc. taxes using VP disc. it still isn't bad, hmm.
How does this compare to a hacked Boxee/Apple TV? Are there any repositories that can be accessed?
convince me now :cheesygri
aasoror
Apr 5th, 2011, 08:33 PM
ok guys im sure that this has been asked before (and i apologize for wasting time if it has) but due to the WD getting netflix now is there more of a push from patriot to get netflix?
What ? is the WDTV Live getting a NF.ca update ? I thought that even WDTV Live plus doesn't support NF.ca ?!
Just want to send out a huge thanks to aasoror for maintaining this thread, and fighting the good fight on the firmware release front. Thankless job, but much appreciated from a former Norcent DP-300 owner, where every tiny feature add was such a huge deal.. heh heh.
Thank you M1NYA :o
Are there any repositories that can be accessed?
The only standalone repository you can access is metafeeds.com
Else you can access whatever Playon.tv or Tversity and other UPnP server can through to you.
Can appleTV output 1080p ? :twisted:
Super strokey
Apr 5th, 2011, 08:54 PM
What ? is the WDTV Live getting a NF.ca update ? I thought that even WDTV Live plus doesn't support NF.ca ?!
Thank you M1NYA :o
The only standalone repository you can access is metafeeds.com
Else you can access whatever Playon.tv or Tversity and other UPnP server can through to you.
Can appleTV output 1080p ? :twisted:
The + got it yesturday if i recall right. Its in their forums and was posted here.
aasoror
Apr 5th, 2011, 10:22 PM
The + got it yesturday if i recall right. Its in their forums and was posted here.
I c, the PBO is more comparable to the WDTV Live not the +, both devices were never meant to have NF running, I highly doubt that PM would pay the certification fees right now (especially at a price tag of $50~$60 that the PBO has been selling for throughout the last 8 months or so).
You can still access netflix on the PBO using a compatible UPnP server (like Playon.tv)
redgrandam
Apr 6th, 2011, 08:39 AM
My problem only started after the latest Medebo release as well. It occurred when I was searching back and forth through a MKV file, but after rebooting the PBO , I tried some AVI and MP4 files and the same thing happened. As I said the PBO was quite hot. Perhaps the processor is working extra hard on MKV files, to the point were the heat reaches the breakdown point of the circuitry. My breakdown point probably arrives sooner, because my box turns itself on, and is already warm when I start watching a movie.
I don't think it's a heat issue, at least not with mine, as it happens soon after startup. I've never had it die after watching for a while, it's always right when it starts, or after going back to the menu, pausing or FFWD
Mr Nobody
Apr 6th, 2011, 09:49 AM
You cannot.
The videowall is reloaded everytime you turn on the PBO or plug in the USB. Only takes a few seconds.
This is also part of the simplicity of MedeBO, you can load up/change/delete/move the media folders anyway you like without the worry of messing up the videowall. Whatever you changed, it will be reflected next time you power on.
And no, I don't believe you can reorder it. It uses alphabetical order by default; I don't think there is any other options.
Not the actual movie wall. Let me try to explain it properly - I mean: Turn on the PBO, press right to select Video Wall, press Enter. You are now at a screen with Movies, TV, etc. that you designated folders as. These items (Movies, TV, etc) appear in the order you add them in, not in alphabetical order, and they get wiped out after a firmware flash.
Anyways, I figured out doing a backup before flashing and restore after flashing did the trick. However, still would be interested in reordering them alphabetically. Possibly a telnet and an edit of some file somewhere?
Mr Nobody
Apr 6th, 2011, 09:52 AM
I don't think it's a heat issue, at least not with mine, as it happens soon after startup. I've never had it die after watching for a while, it's always right when it starts, or after going back to the menu, pausing or FFWD
I got this 3 or 4 times so far as well. Only on first startup and playing the first file. Power to PBO off/on with the switch on the back, and then it plays fine the 2nd try. Never happens on the 2nd try, but will randomly happen again some other day.
imnew
Apr 6th, 2011, 02:12 PM
How do you know what bootcode you have???
For those that haven't noticed the latest official firmware upgrades (March/April), I copied the release notes below. Haven't tried myself...
Just want to send out a huge thanks to aasoror for maintaining this thread, and fighting the good fight on the firmware release front. Thankless job, but much appreciated from a former Norcent DP-300 owner, where every tiny feature add was such a huge deal.. heh heh.
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Release Notes: P70R2
Added multi-language updates.
1. Add Movies List Menu. Press [MENU] while movie is playing, video list will appear. User may choose video file to play.
2. Separate Audio output toHDMI output and SPDIF output as two options.
3. Press [AUDIO] to choose left or right single channel audio output.
4. Revise index=-1 issue while switch Audio in BD ISO.
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Release Notes: P70R1
Added multi-language updates.
1. Revised .mov file playback issue found in P61
2. Revised DVD iso playback in chapter change, the time calculation for VOB fixed
3. Revise subtitle disappearing issue during video playback
4. New UI icons
5. Added background music playback status display icons
Known Bugs:
1. 1080P MKV very high bitrate issue.
2. subtitle turns on after pause with ISO files.
aasoror
Apr 6th, 2011, 03:01 PM
How do you know what bootcode you have???
Press STOP then PAUSE @ your HOME screen.
ciao
Apr 6th, 2011, 06:16 PM
For those that haven't noticed the latest official firmware upgrades (March/April), I copied the release notes below. Haven't tried myself...
Just want to send out a huge thanks to aasoror for maintaining this thread, and fighting the good fight on the firmware release front. Thankless job, but much appreciated from a former Norcent DP-300 owner, where every tiny feature add was such a huge deal.. heh heh.
==================
Release Notes: P70R2
Added multi-language updates.
1. Add Movies List Menu. Press [MENU] while movie is playing, video list will appear. User may choose video file to play.
2. Separate Audio output toHDMI output and SPDIF output as two options.
3. Press [AUDIO] to choose left or right single channel audio output.
4. Revise index=-1 issue while switch Audio in BD ISO.
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Release Notes: P70R1
Added multi-language updates.
1. Revised .mov file playback issue found in P61
2. Revised DVD iso playback in chapter change, the time calculation for VOB fixed
3. Revise subtitle disappearing issue during video playback
4. New UI icons
5. Added background music playback status display icons
Known Bugs:
1. 1080P MKV very high bitrate issue.
2. subtitle turns on after pause with ISO files.
Perhaps I may have missed an update but do we have the movie walls yet?
imnew
Apr 6th, 2011, 07:22 PM
can you have two avi file in one folder when creating moviewall?
Neb
Apr 6th, 2011, 07:38 PM
How do your sort the video wall in alphabetical order in Medebo? It is currently as date added.
nosnoop
Apr 6th, 2011, 08:04 PM
Perhaps I may have missed an update but do we have the movie walls yet?
Not with official firmware. You need to use aasoror's semi-official ones or alternative firmware.
can you have two avi file in one folder when creating moviewall?
Yes. In MedeBO, if you have more than one video file in the folder (e.g. episodes in a TV series), a list of the files in that folder would be presented for you to select after displaying the moviesheet (about.jpg).
imnew
Apr 6th, 2011, 08:10 PM
Not with official firmware. You need to use aasoror's semi-official ones or alternative firmware.
Yes. In MedeBO, if you have more than one video file in the folder (e.g. episodes in a TV series), a list of the files in that folder would be presented for you to select after displaying the moviesheet (about.jpg).
what is the different between folder.jpg and about.jpg? I only use folder.jpg
donjuanle
Apr 6th, 2011, 08:26 PM
Anyone in here willing to help set this all up for me and possibly for another RFD member for a low cost service fee?
If you can do it for free that be even better as i'm not so great with computers :confused:
Pm Me if you can help out a fellow RFD member thanks in advance.
jpleau
Apr 6th, 2011, 09:20 PM
what is the different between folder.jpg and about.jpg? I only use folder.jpg
folder.jpg is the image you see on the video wall for each of your videos
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/9293/folderqa.jpg
about.jpg is the moviesheet
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/6417/aboute.jpg
I know its a bad movie, but my kids love it ;)
imnew
Apr 6th, 2011, 10:01 PM
darn - guess i have to redo my thumbgen then....
sheriffabc
Apr 6th, 2011, 10:11 PM
Can we get IceFilm on PBO? if so, how?
McLaren
Apr 6th, 2011, 10:26 PM
Can we get IceFilm on PBO? if so, how?
+1 if that was possible, it would make this the ultimate media player
speedyturtle
Apr 6th, 2011, 10:32 PM
Does anyone know if there is a firmware that would show the 'played' marker/indicator. Like on ATV, when a file has not played, there is a blue dot next to it, and when a file is played, the dot disappers. Thanks in advance.
gsrrr
Apr 7th, 2011, 02:14 AM
Does anyone know if there is a firmware that would show the 'played' marker/indicator. Like on ATV, when a file has not played, there is a blue dot next to it, and when a file is played, the dot disappers. Thanks in advance.
Medebo shows the blue 'two eyes' icon when a video file has been watched.
nosnoop
Apr 7th, 2011, 03:36 AM
Does anyone know if there is a firmware that would show the 'played' marker/indicator. Like on ATV, when a file has not played, there is a blue dot next to it, and when a file is played, the dot disappers. Thanks in advance.
Medebo shows the blue 'two eyes' icon when a video file has been watched.
Yes, just make sure you have the "Watched Indicator" turned "ON" in the Settings. I think it is off by default.
This is one of my favourite feature of MedeBO apart from the Videowall.
shanji
Apr 7th, 2011, 08:13 AM
can anyone help me out i can't decide which device to get
PBO or the WDTV Live Hub which is selling for $90 @ delll
is there any different ?
jpleau
Apr 7th, 2011, 10:01 AM
Yes, just make sure you have the "Watched Indicator" turned "ON" in the Settings. I think it is off by default.
This is one of my favourite feature of MedeBO apart from the Videowall.
If accessing the videos over the network, your share also needs to be writeable. MedeBO/Mede8er creates a file on the filesystem <name>.t which is how is determines if a video has been watched.
dhklai
Apr 7th, 2011, 10:20 AM
Ordered mine yesterday from TigerDirect; Shipping cost is less than $8. Could someone recommends the best firmware for the unit in term of UI and features. Thanks!
Matryx
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:18 AM
can anyone help me out i can't decide which device to get
PBO or the WDTV Live Hub which is selling for $90 @ delll
is there any different ?
I have both and I prefer the WDTV Live. Also the one on sale at Dell is the WDTV LIVE PLUS for $90.
cdnNick
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:25 AM
I have both and I prefer the WDTV Live. Also the one on sale at Dell is the WDTV LIVE PLUS for $90.
Do you have a link? I can only find the WDTV live HD for $100.
imnew
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:32 AM
That explains it, coverarts and sheets needs to have specific names and sizes (else it wont be picked up for the moviewall), check the pdf included with the medeBO firmware for further info.
Does the movie file name has to match the folder name?
example,
17 Again (2009).avi
Folder name: 17 Again or is it 17 Again (2009)
thankx..
I'm gettin there... Very very slow thought.... LOL
Phils
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:32 AM
I have both and I prefer the WDTV Live. Also the one on sale at Dell is the WDTV LIVE PLUS for $90.
Same here. The hub is the one with the hard drive. The Live Plus doesn't have that.
aasoror
Apr 7th, 2011, 01:18 PM
Does the movie file name has to match the folder name?
nope, doesn't need to be exact match
imnew
Apr 7th, 2011, 03:33 PM
Do you need to have genre categories setup if you want to use video wall from med8bo.....
or can i just
movies\movie names
right now
movies\action\movie names
don't want to use Genre if don't have to...
Asmegin
Apr 7th, 2011, 03:40 PM
Do you need to have genre categories setup if you want to use video wall from med8bo.....
or can i just
movies\movie names
right now
movies\action\movie names
don't want to use Genre if don't have to...
You don't have to use Genre.
I use Movies/Movie Name.
imnew
Apr 7th, 2011, 04:04 PM
you don't have to use genre.
I use movies/movie name.
thnx...
Kuurgen
Apr 7th, 2011, 04:29 PM
I have both and I prefer the WDTV Live. Also the one on sale at Dell is the WDTV LIVE PLUS for $90.
Are you using modded firmware on the PBO? Just wondering if you are, and are still happier with the WDTV?
nosnoop
Apr 7th, 2011, 04:53 PM
I have both and I prefer the WDTV Live. Also the one on sale at Dell is the WDTV LIVE PLUS for $90.
As far as I know, the WDTV Live Hub still does not support Blu-ray native directory rips, rmvb or HD audio.
aasoror
Apr 7th, 2011, 06:14 PM
As far as I know, the WDTV Live Hub still does not support Blu-ray native directory rips, rmvb or HD audio.
But it does support DVR-MS and apparently just got native NF.CA support.
ppl4golf
Apr 7th, 2011, 08:24 PM
As far as I know, the WDTV Live Hub still does not support Blu-ray native directory rips, rmvb or HD audio.
But it does support DVR-MS and apparently just got native NF.CA support.
WDTV Live does play straight forward Blu-ray rips with the featured films in a single m2ts file and it does TrueHD but only 'downstream' DTS master to DTS core only. DVR-MS is a lovely feature but the sound is actually downmixed to PCM stereo...however, the way the WDTV Live does search and skip makes DVR-MS (Windows TV playback) almost useless for me. It is actually only good for continuous movie playback.
As far as the function goes, WDTV Hub is pretty much the same and there is no DTS-MA bitstreaming either. The internet apps of the WDTV Live is good though. I love Deevz and Accuweather. youtube is only SD in official firmware.
aasoror
Apr 8th, 2011, 05:57 AM
I have just released two new firmware ports:
- A port of official firmware P70R2 to BC16 based boxes.
- A port of SHIZZL Mod # 2 (for those following the MedeBO line).
Download links on the wiki linked in my signature below.
Matryx
Apr 8th, 2011, 07:07 AM
Are you using modded firmware on the PBO? Just wondering if you are, and are still happier with the WDTV?
I've tried all three different firmwares and for my use I'm still happier with the WDTV. Right Now I'm using the ACRBO firmware.
a50snake
Apr 8th, 2011, 10:16 AM
I'd like to try out some of the custom firmwares, but I don't have the cable to recover serially. anyone willing to make one up for me, I will pay for your parts and some extra for your time. I'm just no good with soldering and all that.
thank,:cheesygri
Bob123456
Apr 9th, 2011, 12:07 PM
OK,
I have read through many, many threads on the PBO, but I have not come across any clear simple ways to get additional content. Yes with PlayOn I can get youtube and TED.com, which is great, but not worth the subscription price (and most other decent PlayOn content does not seem to work in Canada). When ever I read about changing firmware on the PBO, it sounds to be more about "looks". I could'nt care less about a "video wall", I would however like easy access to more streaming content from the Internet. Is there a firmware out there that does this relatively easily? Maybe it's a stupid question, but could someone humour me and point me in the right direction -- if there is one.
Thanks!
imnew
Apr 9th, 2011, 04:11 PM
OK - Finally got my video wall to work... LOL.... (don't ask how long I spent on it...)
Anyway, but since I don't have any multi genre, I was able to load up the video wall. Now, when I pick the movie on the wall once, it comes up as black screen... So, I basically have to press twice to get the movie started....
Any idea, how I can set it so, I only have to press it once to get the movie going??? or am I missing something....
Oh - I'm unable to see the details of the movies.... I know, I have folder.jpg and about.jpg in each folder.....
thanks again!!!!!
Do you need to have genre categories setup if you want to use video wall from med8bo.....
or can i just
movies\movie names
right now
movies\action\movie names
don't want to use Genre if don't have to...
ppl4golf
Apr 9th, 2011, 05:30 PM
OK,
I have read through many, many threads on the PBO, but I have not come across any clear simple ways to get additional content. Yes with PlayOn I can get youtube and TED.com, which is great, but not worth the subscription price (and most other decent PlayOn content does not seem to work in Canada). When ever I read about changing firmware on the PBO, it sounds to be more about "looks". I could'nt care less about a "video wall", I would however like easy access to more streaming content from the Internet. Is there a firmware out there that does this relatively easily? Maybe it's a stupid question, but could someone humour me and point me in the right direction -- if there is one.
Thanks!
Aasoror's compiled semi-official is as easy as it gets to get a feel of everything. MEBO is popular because it is no fuzz and very good in playing back content. There is no online stuff except internet radio which is surprisingly handy. You can make it pretty by video wall. I only started to use it last week, it wasn't that hard to do. Is it a must..no. It does add some flavor and the about.jpg gives a synopsis though it is very, very brief.
You should actually consider the WDTV Live or +...which is actually a good unit to use stock as is. I absolutely hate its inability to dial in time, commercial skip, etc. For the lesser technical inclined who wants basic online contents, it is a perfect unit. The pricing between WDTV Live and PBO are fairly close before rebate. PBO was a no brainer when it could be had for under $50. Now, both are good units that competes head to head and you get exceptional 3rd party and official support.
If you must do RMVB, then you must go PBO...the other way around for DVR-MS.
Asmegin
Apr 9th, 2011, 05:34 PM
OK - Finally got my video wall to work... LOL.... (don't ask how long I spent on it...)
Anyway, but since I don't have any multi genre, I was able to load up the video wall. Now, when I pick the movie on the wall once, it comes up as black screen... So, I basically have to press twice to get the movie started....
Any idea, how I can set it so, I only have to press it once to get the movie going??? or am I missing something....
Oh - I'm unable to see the details of the movies.... I know, I have folder.jpg and about.jpg in each folder.....
thanks again!!!!!
Make sure the about.jpg is 1280x720 and under 500kB. If everything looks in check, flash the Mede8er firmware again.
aasoror
Apr 10th, 2011, 03:01 AM
I have read through many, many threads on the PBO, but I have not come across any clear simple ways to get additional content. Yes with PlayOn I can get youtube and TED.com, which is great, but not worth the subscription price (and most other decent PlayOn content does not seem to work in Canada).
The main usage of Playon.tv for the PBO is accessing netflix, YT and TED and tons of other online contents can be accessed directly on the PBO as recommended I would go thorough one of the semi-official megapacks (links on the wiki in my sig below).
Now, when I pick the movie on the wall once, it comes up as black screen... So, I basically have to press twice to get the movie started....
Its a known problem, if the jpg's are within specs then just reflash the firmware.
imnew
Apr 10th, 2011, 11:30 AM
Make sure the about.jpg is 1280x720 and under 500kB. If everything looks in check, flash the Mede8er firmware again.
OK - I didn't create any the about.jpg myself. All of them got generated via YAMJ... For someone like me, how do I know if it's 1280x720 without going thru all my individual folders???
thanks again...
Asmegin
Apr 10th, 2011, 12:05 PM
OK - I didn't create any the about.jpg myself. All of them got generated via YAMJ... For someone like me, how do I know if it's 1280x720 without going thru all my individual folders???
thanks again...
Just go to one of them in My Computer/Windows Explorer. If one of them is the right size, chances are they all are.
In that case, re-flash the PBO with the same firmware. Sometimes it takes two times for it to work properly.
imnew
Apr 10th, 2011, 10:14 PM
OK - I got most of the issues resolved...
One question:
Can a modified Med8or pbo has the capability of playing img video files?
None of them plays for me, the ISO files plays no problem...
thanks for everyone's help sofar.....
aasoror
Apr 10th, 2011, 10:18 PM
Can a modified Med8or pbo has the capability of playing img video files?
No, just ISO images.
You shouldn't have a problem converting them to ISO's though (using something like nero).
imnew
Apr 10th, 2011, 10:22 PM
No, just ISO images.
You shouldn't have a problem converting them to ISO's though (using something like nero).
Thanks assoror....
Once converted, can I just replace the file img with ISO file or do I have to rerun the whole YAMJ thing again for Med8or to recognize...
thanks again..
aasoror
Apr 10th, 2011, 10:28 PM
Thanks assoror....
Once converted, can I just replace the file img with ISO file or do I have to rerun the whole YAMJ thing again for Med8or to recognize...
thanks again..
If you already created the about/folder images in an earlier run then just replace the IMG file with the ISO. No need to rerun Y2M.
gsrrr
Apr 11th, 2011, 02:26 AM
Anyway, but since I don't have any multi genre, I was able to load up the video wall. Now, when I pick the movie on the wall once, it comes up as black screen... So, I basically have to press twice to get the movie started....
I was seeing the same problem on my PBO when I updated to MedeBO_V4.0.4_1026_3March2011. So I went back to MedeBO_V4_25Jan2011, and my about.jpg loaded fine again.
I wonder if my about.jpgs are out of spec too? And the newer fw is just more strict? They about/folder jpgs were generated with thumbgen.
atlantic_man
Apr 11th, 2011, 12:26 PM
Is supporting/forum web down? I upgraded my PBO to newest version of fireware few days ago. It is working well, untill last night. The audio stopped working. Anyone has same problem?
Menace
Apr 11th, 2011, 12:42 PM
I found that P70R## is buggy. For one thing, network access is slow. Audio problem was known in P70RC1 but was fixed in the latest RC2 as mentioned in the forum.
Is supporting/forum web down? I upgraded my PBO to newest version of fireware few days ago. It is working well, untill last night. The audio stopped working. Anyone has same problem?
atlantic_man
Apr 11th, 2011, 01:03 PM
I found that P70R## is buggy. For one thing, network access is slow. Audio problem was known in P70RC1 but was fixed in the latest RC2 as mentioned in the forum.
Mine is P70RC2. Yeah, the reason I did upgrading is because it says that audio problem is fixed. Well, I will try it tonight to see if I can get any luck. Otherwise, sounds like I need to downgrade again.
Asmegin
Apr 11th, 2011, 01:14 PM
My remote no longer turns off my PBO. I have to use the back switch now :evil::evil:
Matryx
Apr 11th, 2011, 02:56 PM
The replacement unit that Patriot sent me died on me! This is the second one that died on me. Damn I have some bad luck.
imnew
Apr 11th, 2011, 03:20 PM
I was seeing the same problem on my PBO when I updated to MedeBO_V4.0.4_1026_3March2011. So I went back to MedeBO_V4_25Jan2011, and my about.jpg loaded fine again.
I wonder if my about.jpgs are out of spec too? And the newer fw is just more strict? They about/folder jpgs were generated with thumbgen.
I reflashed it again now it works.....
Bob123456
Apr 11th, 2011, 03:40 PM
...YT and TED and tons of other online contents can be accessed directly on the PBO as recommended I would go thorough one of the semi-official megapacks (links on the wiki in my sig below)
Thanks, there appears to be quite a few "megapacks" which one should I actually try for my 3 month old PBO Core? They do not appear to have any information with them, just a link to the firmware itself.
aasoror
Apr 11th, 2011, 05:01 PM
Thanks, there appears to be quite a few "megapacks" which one should I actually try for my 3 month old PBO Core? They do not appear to have any information with them, just a link to the firmware itself.
There is release notes links at the bottom of the wiki page.
But anyway, the most recent megapack right now is "P70R2 megapack"
Best of luck
langong
Apr 11th, 2011, 05:03 PM
I have my PBO for 3 mos now, running the latest Meedebo firmware. The past week, I have had 2 or 3 incidents of it crashing. I would play a movie, and about 30sec into the movie the picture will turn black, but the sound will continue. The PBO becomes unresponsive, the movie continues to play I can not stop it etc.. Have to turn it off and back on again. THe problem is intermittent, anyone have a similar experience with the latest firmware? Using HDMI and optical out.
I am having the same problem after upgrading to the latest Meedebo Fw.
Is there any solution yet? I guess have to wait for next released firmware then!
aasoror
Apr 11th, 2011, 05:06 PM
I found that P70R## is buggy. For one thing, network access is slow. Audio problem was known in P70RC1 but was fixed in the latest RC2 as mentioned in the forum.
Well all firmwares past P53 has a slow network access speeds for copy operations but enough for HD streaming.
P70R2 is the most complete firmware update PM released so far (with the audio bug fixed from P70R1 and the MKV compatibility issues resolved from P60R1).
My remote no longer turns off my PBO. I have to use the back switch now :evil::evil:
Double check your remote through any cell phone/digital camera and see if the problem is with the power button, if so contact PM for replacement, if the power button is flashing the IR emitter led fine then just reflash the firmware and see if that fixes your problem.
aasoror
Apr 11th, 2011, 05:08 PM
I am having the same problem after upgrading to the latest Meedebo Fw.
Is there any solution yet? I guess have to wait for next released firmware then!
Have eliminated overheating issues ? if so then reflash to P02 (official) then flash to the latest MedeBO (SHIZZLE MOD # 2).
Best of luck,
generaltao99
Apr 11th, 2011, 09:19 PM
Dunno if it's been addressed in the thread, but is there a 5GHz wifi-n dongle that works with the PBO?
audit13
Apr 11th, 2011, 10:15 PM
For people that recently purchased a PBO Core, did you get the Realtek 1073DD C+ chip? My friend wants a unit that will bitsream if possible.
langong
Apr 11th, 2011, 11:50 PM
Have eliminated overheating issues ? if so then reflash to P02 (official) then flash to the latest MedeBO (SHIZZLE MOD # 2).
Best of luck,
Flash MedeBO (SHIZZLE MOD # 2). and it seems OK now , try couple movies no black screen, thanks Aasoror.
canclan
Apr 12th, 2011, 04:03 PM
Flashed P70R2 megapack (after flashing P02 twice) without any problems and it seems to work great (I have not testing everything yet though). MKV problem fixed and network speed seems fine.
Thanks again aasoror!
JWL
Apr 12th, 2011, 08:35 PM
Got my $40 rebate from Patriot about 6 weeks after purchase. Nice!
shanji
Apr 16th, 2011, 11:29 AM
i'm looking for a hard drive for the patriot , canada computer selling hard drive 500gb for $60 , is that a good price ?
http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=15_215_217&item_id=036986
audit13
Apr 16th, 2011, 11:33 AM
i'm looking for a hard drive for the patriot , canada computer selling hard drive 500gb for $60 , is that a good price ?
http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=15_215_217&item_id=036986
Personally, I would go with the WD Scorpio Blue 640gb drive and put it inside a usb 3.0 or esata case for $60:http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=15_215_217&item_id=031118
The difference between 7200 rpm and 5400 rpm would be not be signifcant if used internally or externally with the PBO.
smg669
Apr 16th, 2011, 11:37 AM
Personally, I would go with the WD Scorpio Blue 640gb drive and put it inside a usb 3.0 or esata case for $60:http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=15_215_217&item_id=031118
The difference between 7200 rpm and 5400 rpm would be not be signifcant if used internally or externally with the PBO.
+1 I was going to reply similarly. 7200 is overkill for a PBO and it might unnecessarily heat it up.
smg669
Apr 16th, 2011, 12:02 PM
Hey - Anyone else have this problem?
I've got a PBO with a recent MedeBo FW hard wired to a Gigabit router. Also hard wired to the same router is a Windows 7 box. I've got 6 different drives in this box all properly configured to share without passwords. The Win7 box is assigned a custom workgroup name (let's call it JONESHOME).
All was working fine. I could go into the Network section of the Media Library and the JONESHOME workgroup would show up. I could select the Win7 box in the list of computers on JONESHOME and then I could see all 6 shares. I could navigate through the shares and watch stuff.
Now, all of a sudden, I can't see that workgroup anymore. The PBO has a proper IP address and I can listen to some of the Internet Radio streams (although it seems that only ~4% of them work at all). This started happening a while ago, but the
Any ideas on this? I've tried creating manual "shortcuts" to the Win7 box, but I can't get that to work - including giving the Win7 box a static IP and trying to get to it that way.
S
renns
Apr 16th, 2011, 01:56 PM
We've had the PBO setup for nearly a year now, and it's been great. We installed a HD and use it to archive popular shows/movies. We are running ACR firmware, and IIRC, when the upgrade was performed it required a reformat of the HD. If I upgrade now to one of the new firmware versions, will it again force a re-format of the drive? Is there any way to upgrade, and use the HD without the format process? I'd rather not archive all that stuff on HD before the upgrade if I don't need to!
gsrrr
Apr 16th, 2011, 03:54 PM
We've had the PBO setup for nearly a year now, and it's been great. We installed a HD and use it to archive popular shows/movies. We are running ACR firmware, and IIRC, when the upgrade was performed it required a reformat of the HD. If I upgrade now to one of the new firmware versions, will it again force a re-format of the drive? Is there any way to upgrade, and use the HD without the format process? I'd rather not archive all that stuff on HD before the upgrade if I don't need to!
Have you tried removing the HD before doing the upgrade?
I've only used Medebo and official fw, and it's never needed to reformat the HD during the upgrade.
aasoror
Apr 16th, 2011, 05:16 PM
Now, all of a sudden, I can't see that workgroup anymore. The PBO has a proper IP address and I can listen to some of the Internet Radio streams (although it seems that only ~4% of them work at all). This started happening a while ago, but the
Any ideas on this? I've tried creating manual "shortcuts" to the Win7 box, but I can't get that to work - including giving the Win7 box a static IP and trying to get to it that way.
Have you tried rebooting your router and PC ? any recent fixes/upgrades from microsoft ? manual shortcut (from the GUI) should work, unless access is being blocked by windows, try the registry hacks in the Win7 networking sticky on the PM forum (once its back online).
If I upgrade now to one of the new firmware versions, will it again force a re-format of the drive?
You only need to format once inside the PBO (using any firmware), and since you already done so, you should be ok with any upgrades.
WH-RFD
Apr 16th, 2011, 06:47 PM
aasoror:
You need to update your links in the first post.
http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/
is now
http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/
ppl4golf
Apr 16th, 2011, 08:35 PM
Hey - Anyone else have this problem?
I've got a PBO with a recent MedeBo FW hard wired to a Gigabit router. Also hard wired to the same router is a Windows 7 box. I've got 6 different drives in this box all properly configured to share without passwords. The Win7 box is assigned a custom workgroup name (let's call it JONESHOME).
All was working fine. I could go into the Network section of the Media Library and the JONESHOME workgroup would show up. I could select the Win7 box in the list of computers on JONESHOME and then I could see all 6 shares. I could navigate through the shares and watch stuff.
Now, all of a sudden, I can't see that workgroup anymore. The PBO has a proper IP address and I can listen to some of the Internet Radio streams (although it seems that only ~4% of them work at all). This started happening a while ago, but the
Any ideas on this? I've tried creating manual "shortcuts" to the Win7 box, but I can't get that to work - including giving the Win7 box a static IP and trying to get to it that way.
S
These situations happens once in a while. When I bought my WDTV Live 1.5 years ago, it was a common scene. It has something to do with Windows. I find it happens sometimes when I plug/unplug ethernet cables from other devices. Reboot the server generally works. Often, it works again by itself.
smg669
Apr 16th, 2011, 11:28 PM
Have you tried rebooting your router and PC ? any recent fixes/upgrades from microsoft ? manual shortcut (from the GUI) should work, unless access is being blocked by windows, try the registry hacks in the Win7 networking sticky on the PM forum (once its back online).
I rebooted the router, switch and the Win7 box and it magically showed up in the Medebo interface. Yay!
However, at the times when I'm having problems with the PBO seeing that Win7 box, all the other Windows systems on the network can see and access those shares... so it's definitely a problem with the PBO.
How often should I expect this to happen? It's a real PITA and it's definitely a tough sell to the wife... "OK, honey, do this and this and this... but if that doesn't work trudge down into the basement past the furnace and pull the power cords on these two little boxes on the wall. Then go to the living room and fire up the home theater and switch to the Media Centre activity... then find the wireless keyboard and reboot the operating system... shut down the home theatre and then drag your butt back upstairs the the bedroom... and MAYBE the media centre shared folders will show up in the PBO menu... if not, then try rebooting everything again..."
aasoror
Apr 17th, 2011, 01:19 AM
However, at the times when I'm having problems with the PBO seeing that Win7 box, all the other Windows systems on the network can see and access those shares... so it's definitely a problem with the PBO.
When the shortcuts work and access via workgroups doesn't its a PBO problem, when neither are working its mostly an occasional windows problem.
How often should I expect this to happen?
Setup shortcuts and you should be fine, if you are using MedeBO you have to setup shortcuts to use the movie wall any way.
"My shortcuts" only failed once for me since I bought my PBO's (more than a year ago).
aasoror:
You need to update your links in the first post.
http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/
is now
http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/
Done
spinbot
Apr 17th, 2011, 07:18 AM
Just a thought, for guy with problems, I own a Popcorn Hour and it does not like going through Gigabit devices. I solved my issues by putting the Gigabit line in to a $20 10/100 Switch and plugged my Popcorn Hour in to the 10/100 switch. I realize its a completely different device, but........just tossing ideas out :)
I also completely understand your situation with the wife. I have the same issue with mine and the kids. If everything doesn't go 100% according to plan, they won't want to use it. (My issue is more with my Harmony remote and them pointing it at the ground and not all the devices turning on)
ppl4golf
Apr 17th, 2011, 08:16 AM
I rebooted the router, switch and the Win7 box and it magically showed up in the Medebo interface. Yay!
However, at the times when I'm having problems with the PBO seeing that Win7 box, all the other Windows systems on the network can see and access those shares... so it's definitely a problem with the PBO.
How often should I expect this to happen? It's a real PITA and it's definitely a tough sell to the wife... "OK, honey, do this and this and this... but if that doesn't work trudge down into the basement past the furnace and pull the power cords on these two little boxes on the wall. Then go to the living room and fire up the home theater and switch to the Media Centre activity... then find the wireless keyboard and reboot the operating system... shut down the home theatre and then drag your butt back upstairs the the bedroom... and MAYBE the media centre shared folders will show up in the PBO menu... if not, then try rebooting everything again..."
It's still a Windows problem...just one that occasionally another Windows system fail to be affected LOL
Connections to other computers on the network can get killed as well (if you do wonder).
smg669
Apr 17th, 2011, 02:12 PM
It's still a Windows problem...just one that occasionally another Windows system fail to be affected LOL
Connections to other computers on the network can get killed as well (if you do wonder).
Actually, I don't think it's a Windows problem at all. It's likely either a PBO problem or a router problem. It's not just one machine that disappears from the Mebe8er Network menu.. it's all of them. I've got 3 machines on the JONESHOME network (all Win7 machines) plus a single MacBook Pro sharing SMB on the WORKGROUP network. When the PBO loses the newtwork, it loses both workgroups (and all machines).
S
renns
Apr 17th, 2011, 02:51 PM
Have you tried removing the HD before doing the upgrade?
I've only used Medebo and official fw, and it's never needed to reformat the HD during the upgrade.
You only need to format once inside the PBO (using any firmware), and since you already done so, you should be ok with any upgrades.
OK, I'll give it a shot. I have been hesitating doing the upgrade due to fears of that reformat. Thanks for the replies!
audit13
Apr 19th, 2011, 09:52 PM
Looks like TigerDirect doesn't carry this in their retail stores. If you want to save on shipping and you're near a CC, try to pm at CC since CC also has a $30 mir.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=44_567&item_id=026754
aasoror
Apr 20th, 2011, 11:24 AM
Looks like TigerDirect doesn't carry this in their retail stores. If you want to save on shipping and you're near a CC, try to pm at CC since CC also has a $30 mir.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=44_567&item_id=026754
It would be still be cheaper to pay for shipping on TD and checkout using visaperks the $10 discount will offset the shipping and save couple of extra dollars.
audit13
Apr 20th, 2011, 04:54 PM
It would be still be cheaper to pay for shipping on TD and checkout using visaperks the $10 discount will offset the shipping and save couple of extra dollars.
I thought there was a $100 minimum to get the $10 off.
aasoror
Apr 20th, 2011, 07:05 PM
I thought there was a $100 minimum to get the $10 off.
True, I stand corrected. :o
That said you can always find a $10 filler to get the current free shipping promo and $10 visa discount ;)
http://images.highspeedbackbone.net/campaigns/free_shipping_ca/freeshipping_ca.jpg (http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/campaigns/campaigntemplate.asp?CampaignID=780&SRCCODE=LSCAN&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=CAqD7bLWUPI-UonMrLA1qqaBRZ8lPV.Fow)
aasoror
Apr 21st, 2011, 04:21 PM
To get it at $48.99 PM the infonec sale price (http://www.infonec.com/site/main.php?module=detail&id=450879) ($78.99) at a store that has the MIR and also a PM policy (ME, NCIX or CC).
ME has just restocked (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX26439%28ME%29.aspx);)
Enjoy
goomer
Apr 21st, 2011, 05:01 PM
To get it at $48.99 PM the infonec sale price (http://www.infonec.com/site/main.php?module=detail&id=450879) ($78.99) at a store that has the MIR and also a PM policy (ME, NCIX or CC).
ME has just restocked (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX26439%28ME%29.aspx);)
Enjoy
PM accepted at NCIX...thanks for the heads up.
audit13
Apr 21st, 2011, 08:47 PM
To get it at $48.99 PM the infonec sale price (http://www.infonec.com/site/main.php?module=detail&id=450879) ($78.99) at a store that has the MIR and also a PM policy (ME, NCIX or CC).
ME has just restocked (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX26439%28ME%29.aspx);)
Enjoy
Awesome. I just submitted a aspm at ncix. I just hope they accept it as well.
aasoror
Apr 21st, 2011, 08:50 PM
Awesome. I just submitted a aspm at ncix. I just hope they accept it as well.
Good luck, this is one of the lowest regular sale prices to date (absolute low was $45)
yyz2hkg
Apr 21st, 2011, 09:35 PM
Guys, pls don't flame...way too many pages to go through. Just one question...so what are the benefits of the PBO other than wireless connection and streaming movies from your computer. If I have a specific television that can read a USB full of movies, can't I just stick the USB into the port and watch it straight from the USB key? wouldn't that be the same?
aasoror
Apr 21st, 2011, 09:53 PM
If I have a specific television that can read a USB full of movies, can't I just stick the USB into the port and watch it straight from the USB key? wouldn't that be the same?
local streaming is just one aspect of the PBO usage, now this also assumes that your television has as wide compatibility as the PBO (flv's, mpg's, ISO's, mkv's, rm's) and is compatible with both HD and SD content.
There is also the online streaming part, PBO can connect to YT, flicker, picasa and tons of video podcasts and live streams websites. Couple that with a UPnP server like Playon.tv and you can seamlessly stream netflix, hulu, pandora ... etc to your TV via the PBO.
Hope that helps,
shopper-X
Apr 21st, 2011, 10:03 PM
Guys, pls don't flame...way too many pages to go through. Just one question...so what are the benefits of the PBO other than wireless connection and streaming movies from your computer. If I have a specific television that can read a USB full of movies, can't I just stick the USB into the port and watch it straight from the USB key? wouldn't that be the same?
Everything is in the first 2 posts.
You can install an internal 2.5" HDD in the PBO.
Balanar08
Apr 21st, 2011, 10:21 PM
Just ordered from memory express. First time ordering from them. How do I price match?
edit: read the op's post
ppl4golf
Apr 21st, 2011, 10:24 PM
What the heck.
Ordered another one A NCIX @ warehouse + one for ASPM.
audit13
Apr 21st, 2011, 10:27 PM
What the heck.
Ordered another one A NCIX @ warehouse + one for ASPM.
I requested an aspm. If it's accepted, I'll p/u from the Markham warehouse since the retail stores show no stock.
I'm hoping I get a C+ chip.
ppl4golf
Apr 21st, 2011, 10:35 PM
I requested an aspm. If it's accepted, I'll p/u from the Markham warehouse since the retail stores show no stock.
I'm hoping I get a C+ chip.
Same here.
I have very well equipped with contemporary AV receivers.
PBO is a lot more fun to use than HTPC!
However, I have a few BD rips that don't play well even on PBO:(:(
audit13
Apr 21st, 2011, 10:37 PM
Same here.
I have very well equipped with contemporary AV receivers.
PBO is a lot more fun to use than HTPC!
However, I have a few BD rips that don't play well even on PBO:(:(
I make my own BD rips in a bdmv format and they have all played back perfectly.
aasoror
Apr 21st, 2011, 10:54 PM
I make my own BD rips in a bdmv format and they have all played back perfectly.
Yup, the problem is apparently running through the ISO is much more CPU consuming for the PBO than BDMV.
I usually don't rip in BDMV, I only rip in ISO's so when I started reading about how BDMV is working fine on the ACR forum I did the following test which I thought destined to fail:
My ISO resides on a NAS, so I mounted the ISO file over the network on my PC using "daemon tools" then shared the whole mounted drive over the network then accessed the shared BDMV (structure) over the network (again) on my PBO, and to my surprise it worked fine :-0
so to sum up
ISO on NAS --> Network --> ISO mounted on PC --> Network --> BDMV inside ISO accessed on the PBO
worked better than:
ISO on NAS --> Network --> ISO accessed on the PBO
Balanar08
Apr 21st, 2011, 11:03 PM
Guys, I'm a noob to this stuff. What's the difference between this and the apple TV...
aasoror
Apr 21st, 2011, 11:20 PM
Guys, I'm a noob to this stuff. What's the difference between this and the apple TV...
How about half the price for a starter ? ;)
Balanar08
Apr 21st, 2011, 11:24 PM
How about half the price for a starter ? ;)
Haha. I admit that. Gonna have fun with this unit after I learn how to use it. Still waiting for a reply from me.
kingrukus
Apr 22nd, 2011, 07:30 AM
So I have been using my PBO for a month without issue. Now this morning I go to use it to play some .avi files, and within a few seconds its giving me the black screen of death. Audio continues to play, but no pictures. Unit is not responsive to the remote except for the power button.......manages to shut down via remote.
I had rolled back the firmware to v2 I believe and had installed the latest Mede8or since I first started using the PBO.
Anyone have any idea what is causing this? Otherwise, what is the warranty procedure with these units? Do I deal with the retailer (NCIX) or with Patriot? Any issue that I already cut the UPC off the box for the MIR?
I was looking forward to getting my parents one of these units as well, but now I am not so sure...
Thanks
Menace
Apr 22nd, 2011, 09:07 AM
I found both official and Mede8or latest released firmwares were buggy. I rolled back to P61xx and problem free so far.
So I have been using my PBO for a month without issue. Now this morning I go to use it to play some .avi files, and within a few seconds its giving me the black screen of death. Audio continues to play, but no pictures. Unit is not responsive to the remote except for the power button.......manages to shut down via remote.
I had rolled back the firmware to v2 I believe and had installed the latest Mede8or since I first started using the PBO.
ppl4golf
Apr 22nd, 2011, 09:29 AM
So I have been using my PBO for a month without issue. Now this morning I go to use it to play some .avi files, and within a few seconds its giving me the black screen of death. Audio continues to play, but no pictures. Unit is not responsive to the remote except for the power button.......manages to shut down via remote.
I had rolled back the firmware to v2 I believe and had installed the latest Mede8or since I first started using the PBO.
Anyone have any idea what is causing this? Otherwise, what is the warranty procedure with these units? Do I deal with the retailer (NCIX) or with Patriot? Any issue that I already cut the UPC off the box for the MIR?
I was looking forward to getting my parents one of these units as well, but now I am not so sure...
Thanks
I found both official and Mede8or latest released firmwares were buggy. I rolled back to P61xx and problem free so far.
I use the mede8or from January 2011 and experience very few problems. I had freeze up on internet radio once in a while.
trellaine201
Apr 22nd, 2011, 09:41 AM
I have read previous posts regarding patriot versus ps3 etc for playing movie files etc but there were a long time ago, have things changed? I run most things via my ps3 or xbox....most files seem to play, some don't though.
Is there a big difference from running my stuff via my xbox/ps3 or running it through a patriot box? Is patriot box direct to tv?
ppl4golf
Apr 22nd, 2011, 09:50 AM
I have read previous posts regarding patriot versus ps3 etc for playing movie files etc but there were a long time ago, have things changed? I run most things via my ps3 or xbox....most files seem to play, some don't though.
Is there a big difference from running my stuff via my xbox/ps3 or running it through a patriot box? Is patriot box direct to tv?
What videos are not playing in your setup ?
Can you plug a huge mkv video (>>>5GB) into the PS3 and play straight up ??
From purely video playing point of view, comparing xbox/ps3 to a media player is almost an insult to the media player.
There is no setup for using PBO, just plug and play. Format compatibility is unmatched. If I must nitpick, it is the lack of DVR-MS, and of course WTV format for Window Media Center TV recordings which nobody but Seven can do.
WalmartMartyr
Apr 22nd, 2011, 09:59 AM
tried to PM with Memory Express, they called trying to charge me shipping, BOOOOOOOO
Go with NCIX, they have 5.99 shipping.
trellaine201
Apr 22nd, 2011, 10:18 AM
What videos are not playing in your setup ?
Can you plug a huge mkv video (>>>5GB) into the PS3 and play straight up ??
From purely video playing point of view, comparing xbox/ps3 to a media player is almost an insult to the media player.
There is no setup for using PBO, just plug and play. Format compatibility is unmatched. If I must nitpick, it is the lack of DVR-MS, and of course WTV format for Window Media Center TV recordings which nobody but Seven can do.
I saw the wdtv tv boxes at futureshop, they come with a hdd already. Any difference between patriot and wd?
audit13
Apr 22nd, 2011, 10:23 AM
I saw the wdtv tv boxes at futureshop, they come with a hdd already. Any difference between patriot and wd?
With the Patriot, you could add your own internal 2.5" drive. Also, the Patriot comes with an hdmi cable. It's not a top quality cable but it works for me. Price difference between makes the PBO a better value in my opinion.
trellaine201
Apr 22nd, 2011, 10:40 AM
With the Patriot, you could add your own internal 2.5" drive. Also, the Patriot comes with an hdmi cable. It's not a top quality cable but it works for me. Price difference between makes the PBO a better value in my opinion.
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Isn't having one box (including hdd) versus a patriot plus a separate hdd box, isn't two boxes less pleasing? esthetcially? or does this basically come down to cost, seems patriot box plus a hdd cost less?
audit13
Apr 22nd, 2011, 10:45 AM
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Isn't having one box (including hdd) versus a patriot plus a separate hdd box, isn't two boxes less pleasing? esthetcially? or does this basically come down to cost, seems patriot box plus a hdd cost less?
I prefer not to have the drive inside any media player. Transferring hundreds of gigs of data via usb 2.0 is painful, this is why I have a 2.5" drive with esata. As for the player's looks, the PBO with an external drive looks fine to me.
trellaine201
Apr 22nd, 2011, 10:52 AM
I prefer not to have the drive inside any media player. Transferring hundreds of gigs of data via usb 2.0 is painful, this is why I have a 2.5" drive with esata. As for the player's looks, the PBO with an external drive looks fine to me.
Thanks :) for the opinion and information. What is the average price for a 2.5 ext drive?
audit13
Apr 22nd, 2011, 10:59 AM
Thanks :) for the opinion and information. What is the average price for a 2.5 ext drive?
Persoanlly, I prefer buying a bare oem 5400 rpm drive and putting in inside a usb 3.0 or esata case. In my case, I purchased a 640 gb WD Scorpio Blue around Christmas, 2010 for $55 + tax and put it inside a a spare Vantec esata case. The Vantec case is around $25.
ppl4golf
Apr 22nd, 2011, 12:39 PM
What the heck.
Ordered another one A NCIX @ warehouse + one for ASPM.
Both are approved.
I am not getting both. For anyone getting both, once again, you MUST get separate receipts for separate households for rebate purposes.
audit13
Apr 22nd, 2011, 12:43 PM
Both are approved.
I am not getting both. For anyone getting both, once again, you MUST get separate receipts for separate households for rebate purposes.
My aspm was also approved but the Markham store doesn't have stock, the Ontario warehouse has stock, and the aspm says it's only good for 48 hours. I guess my aspm will expire before I can get to the warehouse on Monday.
ppl4golf
Apr 22nd, 2011, 12:44 PM
s
Isn't having one box (including hdd) versus a patriot plus a separate hdd box, isn't two boxes less pleasing? esthetcially? or does this basically come down to cost, seems patriot box plus a hdd cost less?
The problem with the WDTV HUB is how to load up the f'ing drive inside. 1TB is a lot to load up and the only fast way to transfer is actually via network. Despite it says gigabit, it is ~15MB/s. PBO can act as an external and do 25MB/s. The network transfer is way worse however @ a LOL 5MB/s.
If you want easy internet applications, then WDTV variant is more appealing.
Menace
Apr 22nd, 2011, 12:57 PM
I agree.
I sometimes get excited when I see the new firmware updates ;)
I use the mede8or from January 2011 and experience very few problems.
O1IN85
Apr 22nd, 2011, 01:23 PM
does PBO play more video formats than the XBMC?
That's the most important thing for me.
aasoror
Apr 22nd, 2011, 04:09 PM
So I have been using my PBO for a month without issue. Now this morning I go to use it to play some .avi files, and within a few seconds its giving me the black screen of death. Audio continues to play, but no pictures. Unit is not responsive to the remote except for the power button.......manages to shut down via remote.
So does that happen with all your videos ? is it blank screen right from the start or those few seconds do you have a video as well as audio ?
Have you checked via composite to see if you have similar behavior ?
Have you ruled out heat related issues ?
Did you try downgrading to P02 then upgrading to the latest firmware of your choice ?
Otherwise, what is the warranty procedure with these units? Do I deal with the retailer (NCIX) or with Patriot? Any issue that I already cut the UPC off the box for the MIR?
You are past the 30 days retailer warranty so you need to go through Patriot, you pay one way shipping to CA and they send it back for free. call them for RMA.
Is there a big difference from running my stuff via my xbox/ps3 or running it through a patriot box? Is patriot box direct to tv?
Not sure what is "direct to tv", but as you noted nothing much changed for the PBO or the PS3, PBO still uses a small fraction of power compared to a PS3, still has wider compatibility and still has more functionality as a media player (NAS, torrent client, FTP and webserver, media streamer, portable storage ..)
tried to PM with Memory Express, they called trying to charge me shipping, BOOOOOOOO
Why would you expect other wise ? retailer you are trying to PM (infonec) doesn't offer free shipping, and you order isn't $100 to qualify for ME free shipping
I saw the wdtv tv boxes at futureshop, they come with a hdd already. Any difference between patriot and wd?
Do you mean WDTV live hub ? its almost 3 times the price (even after deducting the price for the 1 TB HDD), that said, one thing to note though that since the PBO was launched (fall 2009) WD has launched 5 different products (WDTV Live, WDTV mk2, WDTV Live plus, WDTV Element Play, WDTV Live hub) so instead of dumbing one product after the other PM has kept on supporting and updating its single product in the market (they even did invisibly upgrade the chipset 1073DD+ from 1073DD with no change in pricing, instead of relaunching it as PBO+ with $50 higher price tag).
s
Isn't having one box (including hdd) versus a patriot plus a separate hdd box, isn't two boxes less pleasing? esthetcially? or does this basically come down to cost, seems patriot box plus a hdd cost less?
IMHO a properly set up network will suffice if you don't have the need to use the PBO on the go, it does dramatically decrease the cost.
Both are approved.
I am not getting both. For anyone getting both, once again, you MUST get separate receipts for separate households for rebate purposes.
Someone in NCIX is getting fired :)
does PBO play more video formats than the XBMC?
That's the most important thing for me.
Comparing a $50 appliance to an XBMC isn't fair, any way, there is no way for the PBO to play more video formats than the XBMC, because increasing the XBMC compatibility is just an issue of finding and installing the proper codec whenever you feel like it, on the other hand the PBO has a pre-defined compatibility set and any changes in that requires a firmware update from the manufacturer. Man, with a properly configured PC I can even playback corrupted, incomplete and out of specs encoded files :) good luck doing on any media player in the market.
Zat
Apr 22nd, 2011, 04:20 PM
Anyone else having issues connecting to NFS shares with MedeBO_V4.0.4_1026_3March2011 ? It was working before with older firmware.
O1IN85
Apr 22nd, 2011, 05:38 PM
Comparing a $50 appliance to an XBMC isn't fair, any way, there is no way for the PBO to play more video formats than the XBMC, because increasing the XBMC compatibility is just an issue of finding and installing the proper codec whenever you feel like it, on the other hand the PBO has a pre-defined compatibility set and any changes in that requires a firmware update from the manufacturer. Man, with a properly configured PC I can even playback corrupted, incomplete and out of specs encoded files :) good luck doing on any media player in the market.
Thanks for your opinion.
Well, as long as it plays the most commong video files out there that's available from 'noid and 'bay, I'm fine.
Thought having an Xbox would be a plus for gaming.
decisions decisions. I have enough points on my other CC in which I can spend to buy either things.
nosnoop
Apr 22nd, 2011, 10:03 PM
I have read previous posts regarding patriot versus ps3 etc for playing movie files etc but there were a long time ago, have things changed? I run most things via my ps3 or xbox....most files seem to play, some don't though.
For PS3, you would probably encounter more and more problems playing Blu-Ray rips (maybe DVD rips too) movies in the future because of Cinavia.
nosnoop
Apr 22nd, 2011, 10:10 PM
s
Isn't having one box (including hdd) versus a patriot plus a separate hdd box, isn't two boxes less pleasing? esthetcially? or does this basically come down to cost, seems patriot box plus a hdd cost less?
For Patriot Box Office (PBO), you can have it either way. You can put a laptop HD inside the PBO or you can use an external drive.
Having a HD inside the PBO is probably more convenient for traveling, but I prefer an external drive for faster and more convenient file transfer.
Guys, I'm a noob to this stuff. What's the difference between this and the apple TV...
Apple TV doesn't do 1080p and it is strictly network streaming only. You cannot plug an external USB drive into Apple TV to play anything.
ck01
Apr 23rd, 2011, 07:37 AM
Placed an order at ME and requested a PM in the comments section and by email afterwards. Did that yesterday. How long does it take to know if it's been approved?
Balanar08
Apr 23rd, 2011, 08:01 AM
I ordered first and forgot to put the pm in the comment section. However I replied to my confirmation and they replied that they will forward the pm to the person in charge. They usually reply at 4 to 6 pm eastern time.
WalmartMartyr
Apr 23rd, 2011, 08:11 AM
Placed an order at ME and requested a PM in the comments section and by email afterwards. Did that yesterday. How long does it take to know if it's been approved?
be prepared to get a call. They will slap on 13 dollars shipping cus its under $99. Kills deal.
NCIX has dropped their pice to 88 I think but $10 shipping.
aasoror
Apr 23rd, 2011, 01:31 PM
Great for those looking for fillers to get free shipping at ME (and another PM opportunity)
Infonec $15 : http://www.infonec.com/site/main.php?module=detail&id=452970
NCIX $15 : http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55310&vpn=PCBOWAU2-N&manufacture=Patriot
ME $20 : http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX31539(ME).aspx
Balanar08
Apr 23rd, 2011, 01:35 PM
be prepared to get a call. They will slap on 13 dollars shipping cus its under $99. Kills deal.
NCIX has dropped their pice to 88 I think but $10 shipping.
Got my pm approval from ME. They didn't tack on shipping charges but I must admit, they are very slow at replying your emails
WalmartMartyr
Apr 23rd, 2011, 02:08 PM
Got my pm approval from ME. They didn't tack on shipping charges but I must admit, they are very slow at replying your emails
well thats not fair! how did you get notice? email or phone?
ck01
Apr 23rd, 2011, 05:31 PM
well thats not fair! how did you get notice? email or phone?
Same here, sent 2 emails and the notes during checkout haven't received any news. Should I do something?
Balanar08
Apr 23rd, 2011, 06:43 PM
well thats not fair! how did you get notice? email or phone?
I purchased mine first. Then replied to the confirmation. I told them back that I wish to PM infonects pricing and that my local gta area has them in stock and shipping will be free. BUT they will not give me 5% back because they don't do it to online sites or local stores. I said okay and that they will return 35.03 to my credit card. Had to reply to 6 messages from rep to rep in order to get pm cause they email/reply too slow.
aasoror
Apr 23rd, 2011, 08:19 PM
Same here, sent 2 emails and the notes during checkout haven't received any news. Should I do something?
don't worry, they will get back to you, or just credit you back promptly.
dkq
Apr 24th, 2011, 11:57 AM
Does PBO support 3D play? I guess it will only support those files converted to side-by-side 3D.
Is there a way to backup 3D bluray so the ripped file will play 3D on true 3D TV (with shutter glasses)?
I also own 3D BD player (Sammy BD-C5900) it also plays MKV fine.
I just don't know if there is a 3D mkv that any BD player can playback for 3D shutter glasses (not red-blue).
One last option might be rip the BD DISC "properly" and burn a new BluRay disc... that could be lame but 3D BluRay movie cost double-triple ...
aasoror
Apr 24th, 2011, 01:18 PM
Does PBO support 3D play? I guess it will only support those files converted to side-by-side 3D.
Is there a way to backup 3D bluray so the ripped file will play 3D on true 3D TV (with shutter glasses)?
I also own 3D BD player (Sammy BD-C5900) it also plays MKV fine.
I just don't know if there is a 3D mkv that any BD player can playback for 3D shutter glasses (not red-blue).
One last option might be rip the BD DISC "properly" and burn a new BluRay disc... that could be lame but 3D BluRay movie cost double-triple ...
The answer is "sort of" :)
The PBO will send a 3D stream as long as its a single stream (SBS or TnB) and the resolution of the stream is of a max 1080p (so H-SBS or H-TnB).
The PBO will not work with stereo streams (a separate video stream for each eye) or full SBS/TnB where each frame is two combined 1080 frames thus falls from the HDMI 1.3a specs.
And the most common way to backup 3D bluray is as H/F-SBS mkv, then during playback set your 3D compatible hardware to SBS as an input and it should work fine with shutter glasses.
audit13
Apr 25th, 2011, 03:27 PM
Same here.
I have very well equipped with contemporary AV receivers.
PBO is a lot more fun to use than HTPC!
However, I have a few BD rips that don't play well even on PBO:(:(
Just got the PBO from the Ncix Markham warehouse, and it is does not have a C+ chip:(
Could the units that shipped with the C+ chip be a one time deal? It almost seems that way :(
The lack of the C+ chip isn't a deal breaker for me since I can convert TrueHD and DTS-HD to lossless lpcm and remux the movie and play it back on the PBO with full HD sound:) This PBO is still the best value for the money imho.
ppl4golf
Apr 25th, 2011, 04:05 PM
Just got the PBO from the Ncix Markham warehouse, and it is does not have a C+ chip:(
Could the units that shipped with the C+ chip be a one time deal? It almost seems that way :(
The lack of the C+ chip isn't a deal breaker for me since I can convert TrueHD and DTS-HD to lossless lpcm and remux the movie and play it back on the PBO with full HD sound:) This PBO is still the best value for the money imho.
Mine doesn't have it either :(:(:(
RFD really kills the wallet. Unlike yourself, I have absolutely no need to buy a third one LOL!
Well, maybe not. One of the PBOs is going to my folks and I am getting back the POS Seagate FAT+ they are currently using. The first thing my elderly father asked me was why the f**k there was no skip/time dial on the FAT+ and I answered that was why you got the unit for free in the first place :)
No big deal. A bit of a bummer. The HTPCs are not going anywhere yet.
audit13
Apr 25th, 2011, 04:13 PM
Mine doesn't have it either :(:(:(
RFD really kills the wallet. Unlike yourself, I have absolutely no need to buy a third one LOL!
Well, maybe not. One of the PBOs is going to my folks and I am getting back the POS Seagate FAT+ they are currently using. The first thing my elderly father asked me was why the f**k there was no skip/time dial on the FAT+ and I answered that was why you got the unit for free in the first place :)
No big deal. A bit of a bummer. The HTPCs are not going anywhere yet.
I had a FAT+ as well from Newegg.com's $40 deal with free shipping. Yes, Newegg.com because I had it shipped to an Amerifriend. I didn't have time to test it out until I got home and it worked for about 5 minutes before it completely died. I got a warranty replacement that I quickly sold for $30.
Luckily, I have one PBO with the C+ chip. The unit I purchased today is for a friend at work who will be using it with an avr that cannot decode DTS-HD and TrueHD. By remuxing HD soundtracks to lpcm, he can enjoy full hi-def sound from his PBO!
ppl4golf
Apr 25th, 2011, 04:24 PM
I had a FAT+ as well from Newegg.com's $40 deal with free shipping. Yes, Newegg.com because I had it shipped to an Amerifriend. I didn't have time to test it out until I got home and it worked for about 5 minutes before it completely died. I got a warranty replacement that I quickly sold for $30.
Luckily, I have one PBO with the C+ chip. The unit I purchased today is for a friend at work who will be using it with an avr that cannot decode DTS-HD and TrueHD. By remuxing HD soundtracks to lpcm, he can enjoy full hi-def sound from his PBO!
To be honest, the DTS and AC3 cores from HD audio are pretty good as is for my mediocre HT setup (Yamaha RX-V667 + KEF3005 + 15" Velo sub). The difference is not readily noticeable. My WDTV Live does TrueHD but not DTS-HD.
Well, I still want one with C+ LOL
audit13
Apr 25th, 2011, 04:32 PM
To be honest, the DTS and AC3 cores from HD audio are pretty good as is for my mediocre HT setup (Yamaha RX-V667 + KEF3005 + 15" Velo sub). The difference is not readily noticeable. My WDTV Live does TrueHD but not DTS-HD.
Well, I still want one with C+ LOL
Yes, the core audio is pretty good but I know it can be better and that's where the problem lies for me. You've got the basics for a good ht system and I believe your system is more than capable of demonstrating the difference between HD and lossy soundtracks. I find the difference quite noticeable when playing back movies with lots of bass. The bass is much tighter and deeper. The mids and highs are clearer and better separated. As a test, you could remux a BD's HD soundtrack to lossless lpcm, put both on a usb drive, and play them back to see if you notice the difference. I'll bet you can.
I still want another C+ for a second system.
aasoror
Apr 25th, 2011, 04:58 PM
Could the units that shipped with the C+ chip be a one time deal? It almost seems that way :(
According to the product development manager at PM the production lines were interleaved.
Apparently they still have so much stock of the 1073DD chipset.
audit13
Apr 25th, 2011, 05:00 PM
According to the product development manager at PM the production lines were interleaved.
Apparently they still have so much stock of the 1073DD chipset.
Now I understand. I wonder if the PBO will eventually ship with nothing but the C+.
ppl4golf
Apr 25th, 2011, 05:18 PM
According to the product development manager at PM the production lines were interleaved.
Apparently they still have so much stock of the 1073DD chipset.
Now I understand. I wonder if the PBO will eventually ship with nothing but the C+.
This is BS.
I'd suck it up and pay $10 more for a C+ if needed LOL
This lottery thing is just BS.
Rebate game and now C+ lottery BS. It it were not for mede8or, I'd been done with them a long time ago:):)
aasoror
Apr 25th, 2011, 05:26 PM
This is BS.
I'd suck it up and pay $10 more for a C+ if needed LOL
This lottery thing is just BS.
Rebate game and now C+ lottery BS. It it were not for mede8or, I'd been done with them a long time ago:):)
He himself have no idea about which batch numbers are the C+ ones.
The thing 1073DD is no longer in production, so at one point or the other only 1073DD+ will be available, apparently they got a good clearance discount on a huge 1073DD shipment, then the production facility got a few 1073DD+ shipments in between, now once all the 1073DD stock is depleted there will be only 1073DD+ stock around, I was assured that that 1073DD boxes are no longer being produced, so it more of depleting old stock than lottery.
audit13
Apr 25th, 2011, 05:27 PM
This is BS.
I'd suck it up and pay $10 more for a C+ if needed LOL
This lottery thing is just BS.
Rebate game and now C+ lottery BS. It it were not for mede8or, I'd been done with them a long time ago:):)
To be fair to Patriot, there may have been extenuating circumstances where they used the C+ for a little while. The WDTV, Asus, FAT+, and some ACRyan units don't officially support DTS-HD either. It's probably better to look at getting a unit with the C+ chip as a value-added bonus.
ppl4golf
Apr 25th, 2011, 07:03 PM
He himself have no idea about which batch numbers are the C+ ones.
The thing 1073DD is no longer in production, so at one point or the other only 1073DD+ will be available, apparently they got a good clearance discount on a huge 1073DD shipment, then the production facility got a few 1073DD+ shipments in between, now once all the 1073DD stock is depleted there will be only 1073DD+ stock around, I was assured that that 1073DD boxes are no longer being produced, so it more of depleting old stock than lottery.
The box I picked up today looked mightily new. It's been months since C+ surfaced.
I am 0/4 on machines i checked.
My buddy got 1/1 a C+ and he paid $85-$45MIR and I walked him through the whole thing LOL
luck4u2u
Apr 25th, 2011, 08:20 PM
Just returned from NCIX at FMP and successfully PM'd with Infonec's price. I haven't opened the box, as I have a 2nd thought to return it and wait a bit longer to make sure I get the unit with c+ chip :)
aasoror
Apr 25th, 2011, 08:39 PM
Just returned from NCIX at FMP and successfully PM'd with Infonec's price. I haven't opened the box, as I have a 2nd thought to return it and wait a bit longer to make sure I get the unit with c+ chip :)
Well you can try downloading MedeBO or ACRBO and check, you can always reflash to stock if you decided to return it, that said if more people refrained from buying now in hope for a certain 1073DD+ chipset later on, there is no way current stock will ever be depleted.
audit13
Apr 25th, 2011, 09:03 PM
Well you can try downloading MedeBO or ACRBO and check, you can always reflash to stock if you decided to return it, that said if more people refrained from buying now in hope for a certain 1073DD+ chipset later on, there is no way current stock will ever be depleted.
This is true. I'd be curious as to how many people have source material with HD audio tracks. I have 2 PBOs (1 with C+, 1 without) and I'm happy with both units. As I said before, I just remux the movie with a lossless lpcm soundtrack and all is good.
ppl4golf
Apr 25th, 2011, 10:23 PM
This is true. I'd be curious as to how many people have source material with HD audio tracks. I have 2 PBOs (1 with C+, 1 without) and I'm happy with both units. As I said before, I just remux the movie with a lossless lpcm soundtrack and all is good.
Well, IMHO, remux to LPCM is no good. Yes, you get it to work in PBO but then WDTV sees it as 2-channel LPCM, etc. I know, I know, we've been there before LOL
I am going back to HTPC or even my laptop for full Blu-ray folders rips. I am done with the C+ lottery game:)
The silly thing is, it is a bigger deal knowing it's out there but I don't have it, more than the actually discernible difference LOL
Heck, all my HTPCs are capable of HD audio bitstreaming. Be honest, I don't actually take advantage of that too much.
audit13
Apr 25th, 2011, 10:29 PM
Well, IMHO, remux to LPCM is no good. Yes, you get it to work in PBO but then WDTV sees it as 2-channel LPCM, etc. I know, I know, we've been there before LOL
I am going back to HTPC or even my laptop for full Blu-ray folders rips. I am done with the C+ lottery game:)
The silly thing is, it is a bigger deal knowing it's out there but I don't have it, more than the actually discernible difference LOL
Heck, all my HTPCs are capable of HD audio bitstreaming. Be honest, I don't actually take advantage of that too much.
I didn't know that the WDTV sees multichannel lpcm as stereo. Does this issue exist for all WDTVs? I know that the file sizes increases by quite a bit when converting TrueHD and DTS-HD to multichannel lpcm.
I restirct myself to viewing only BDs. I have a decent htpc rig and want to experience the highest pq and sq.
rozsalyib
Apr 26th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Did anybody had any luck getting some new stock with the upgraded chipset 1073DD+?
dorje
Apr 27th, 2011, 04:46 PM
just pm'ed Infonec's price @ CC, picked up 3 units for $89.XX each.
off to flash medebo and see if i got lucky.
thanks OP, (click)
seanster
Apr 27th, 2011, 04:49 PM
My recent TigerDirect PBO arrived from the USA without the C+ chipset.
audit13
Apr 27th, 2011, 05:09 PM
My recent TigerDirect PBO arrived from the USA without the C+ chipset.
Seems like we won't be seeing the C+ chip this round unless CC received a different batch from TD and Ncix.
Tolo
Apr 27th, 2011, 06:33 PM
October unit from ME was C+, the last one I bought from ME in Feb was only C....so def a cr@pshoot!
audit13
Apr 27th, 2011, 06:36 PM
October unit from ME was C+, the last one I bought from ME in Feb was only C....so def a cr@pshoot!
I've seen 1073DD and 1073DD C+ but never a 1073DD C.
October 2010 was around the time I got my C+ from Ncix. The last one I got was from Ncix a couple of days ago and it's not a C+, only a 1073DD.
dorje
Apr 27th, 2011, 07:12 PM
No luck with one from CC, still have two more to go but i dont think i'll win the lottery as the serial number of the devices are few numbers apart.
Bootcode 27, firmware v P61, and BC18
pyronaut101
Apr 27th, 2011, 08:18 PM
Hey guys,
I'm not very savvy with the PBO but would like to know where to find the chip code that you guys are talking about.
Might as well check to see if I got one of the newer ones.
Appreciated
aasoror
Apr 27th, 2011, 08:23 PM
Hey guys,
I'm not very savvy with the PBO but would like to know where to find the chip code that you guys are talking about.
Might as well check to see if I got one of the newer ones.
Appreciated
The stock firmware is indifferent to the chipsets, you need to flash with MedeBO or ACRBO (custom firmware) and check the chipset info from there.
Downloads are in the wiki (linked in my signature below).
audit13
Apr 27th, 2011, 08:24 PM
Hey guys,
I'm not very savvy with the PBO but would like to know where to find the chip code that you guys are talking about.
Might as well check to see if I got one of the newer ones.
Appreciated
You must load on medebo or acrbo firmware to check the chip. Look at the first post for links to the 3rd party firmware. You should also read the instructions with respect to reviving the PBO if you brick it during the firmware change.
dorje
Apr 27th, 2011, 09:11 PM
as expected the second one was the same, 1073DD.
hopefully the last one will have 1073DD+, wont know until tomm when my friend comes to grab it.
audit13
Apr 27th, 2011, 09:31 PM
Just great, $68.99 - $30 mir @ ncix. I paid $10 more by PMing Infonec.
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=44928&vpn=PCMPBO25&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1097
I'm tempted but don't want to get another non-C+ player.
aasoror
Apr 27th, 2011, 10:05 PM
Just great, $68.99 - $30 mir @ ncix. I paid $10 more by PMing Infonec.
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=44928&vpn=PCMPBO25&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1097
I'm tempted but don't want to get another non-C+ player.
OP updated, this is the least regular sale price to date :)
ppl4golf
Apr 27th, 2011, 10:13 PM
Just great, $68.99 - $30 mir @ ncix. I paid $10 more by PMing Infonec.
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=44928&vpn=PCMPBO25&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1097
I'm tempted but don't want to get another non-C+ player.
LOL
I am tempted to return the one I bought BUT NOT getting another one for now:)
vintr
Apr 27th, 2011, 10:31 PM
Completely new to this but looking to pick up a TV media player. Should I look for 1073DD+ chipset and which ones should I avoid and why :confused:? One more question lol how do I check which one I got? Thanks in advance!
aasoror
Apr 27th, 2011, 10:37 PM
Should I look for 1073DD+ chipset and which ones should I avoid and why :confused:?
The real questions are, do you have the hardware to take advantage of HD-Audio (compatible AV receiver and a 7.1 speaker set) ?, do you have contents with HD-Audio tracks ?
And more importantly.. @ $39 after MIR, is there a competition ? even for the 1073DD only boxes like Asus O!Play and Seagates FAT+/goflexTV ?
dorje
Apr 27th, 2011, 11:27 PM
Just great, $68.99 - $30 mir @ ncix. I paid $10 more by PMing Infonec.
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=44928&vpn=PCMPBO25&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1097
I'm tempted but don't want to get another non-C+ player.
price must have changed few hours ago since it was $89.XX this afternoon, could have saved another $30 by pm'ing NCIX
pyronaut101
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:33 AM
You must load on medebo or acrbo firmware to check the chip. Look at the first post for links to the 3rd party firmware. You should also read the instructions with respect to reviving the PBO if you brick it during the firmware change.
Thanks for the info :) you and the person above you!
I'll look more into playing with this toy when I get the chance.
Aero
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:53 AM
How does MIR work on this if I order it now and it probably won't arrive until next week which is may 2-3. Does MIR work with the receipt? or the date they get the MIR? I am not familiar with MIR. I only tried once and it didn't work :facepalm:
aasoror
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:15 AM
How does MIR work on this if I order it now and it probably won't arrive until next week which is may 2-3. Does MIR work with the receipt? or the date they get the MIR? I am not familiar with MIR. I only tried once and it didn't work :facepalm:
The invoice date, which is typically the date your CC got charged.
rozsalyib
Apr 28th, 2011, 09:06 AM
I got one from ncix, it it doesn't have the + chipset I'll make it a gift.
BB88
Apr 28th, 2011, 10:12 AM
I got one from ncix, it it doesn't have the + chipset I'll make it a gift.
Please post back which store you got it from and which chipset it is. Thanks!
Balanar08
Apr 28th, 2011, 10:34 AM
Ughhh I just pricemached Infonec. Do you think MemoryExpress will do another PM?
akoei
Apr 28th, 2011, 11:57 AM
Just pick up a PBO yesterday, haven't open it, then saw your new post. Run to NCIX and get $11.3 back!
Aero
Apr 28th, 2011, 12:07 PM
I got one from ncix, it it doesn't have the + chipset I'll make it a gift.
Aside from the HD-Audio, is there another advantage for the +?
aasoror
Apr 28th, 2011, 12:53 PM
Ughhh I just pricemached Infonec. Do you think MemoryExpress will do another PM?
Don't see why not.
Just pick up a PBO yesterday, haven't open it, then saw your new post. Run to NCIX and get $11.3 back!
no problem, though it was audit13 who posted about it first :)
Aside from the HD-Audio, is there another advantage for the +?
Absolutely no advantage, people are seriously missing out on a really hot deal with such attitude, we don't know the reason MIR has been continuously extended for a whole year, there is no guarantee that once PM knows for sure they have sold most of the old stock that they will even keep offering the MIR.
Balanar08
Apr 28th, 2011, 12:56 PM
Don't see why not.
Just saw that they updated their site with this under the pricing:
HURRY! Limited quantities at this price! This special price will be applied ONLY after you complete your order, and will be processed in the order that they were received. No rainchecks or price matches at this special pricing. In-store stock does not reflect number of units available at this price.
aasoror
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:00 PM
Just saw that they updated their site with this under the pricing:
HURRY! Limited quantities at this price! This special price will be applied ONLY after you complete your order, and will be processed in the order that they were received. No rainchecks or price matches at this special pricing. In-store stock does not reflect number of units available at this price.
Thats the same writeup NCIX puts on all their sale items.
That just means NCIX online ordering system wont allow you to try further discounting a sale item by requesting a PM, this has nothing to do with the ability of Memory Express to PM NCIX price.
Coolbum123
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:21 PM
Just pick up a PBO yesterday, haven't open it, then saw your new post. Run to NCIX and get $11.3 back!
Will NCIX give you back money for price drops? AFAIK NCIX does not do price protections. If they do I am running there to get my money back.
aasoror
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:27 PM
Will NCIX give you back money for price drops? AFAIK NCIX does not do price protections. If they do I am running there to get my money back.
If they don't just rebuy and return.
Coolbum123
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:29 PM
If they don't just rebuy and return.
They have a 15% restocking fee for returned items and it will be returned with the current pricing of the item.
Items eligible for return are subject to a 15% restocking fee, and if approved by NCIX.com would be eligible for exchange, merchandise credit or refund. Due to the volatile nature of computer prices, items will only be refunded at the current pricing at the time of return. Software must be in its original box and unopened (still sealed in its original shrink wrap). Defective software will be exchanged with the same title (subject to availability).
nicknam4e
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:34 PM
Just 30s after viewing item, add to cart --> Sold out (NCIX) :(( But I have one already :D
aasoror
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:05 PM
Due to the volatile nature of computer prices, items will only be refunded at the current pricing at the time of return.
Is that even legal ?!?
So I bought this item and never opened it and still have receipt then when I attempt to return it they charge me the current price regardless of the value indicated on my receipt ?
How about me purchasing during sale and returning when the sale is over ?!? :facepalm:
Even CC doesn't charge restocking for unopened merchandise (because they will simply put it back on the shelve with 0 loss for them).
aasoror
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:15 PM
Just 30s after viewing item, add to cart --> Sold out (NCIX) :(( But I have one already :D
OK here is your chance guys, NCIX price now is $130, according to their return policy posted on their website if you try to return it now, they should deduct 15% restocking fees of your purchase price ($69 ... which is $10.35) then refund you the current price (due to the volatile blah blah ...) $130 - $10.35 = $119.65
I would say go for it :)
vindollar
Apr 28th, 2011, 04:09 PM
Is the NCIX sale over already? I don't see the $69 advertised anywhere.. its just $84.99.
I do see the message "HURRY! Limited Quantities at this price! This special price will be applied ONLY after you complete your order, and will be processed in the order that they were received. No rainchecks or price matches at this special pricing. In-store stock does not reflect number of units available at this price." but it doesn't tell me what the special price is?!
Aero
Apr 28th, 2011, 04:20 PM
Is the NCIX sale over already? I don't see the $69 advertised anywhere.. its just $84.99.
I do see the message "HURRY! Limited Quantities at this price! This special price will be applied ONLY after you complete your order, and will be processed in the order that they were received. No rainchecks or price matches at this special pricing. In-store stock does not reflect number of units available at this price." but it doesn't tell me what the special price is?!
The one in the deal page says its sold out.
http://www.ncix.com/promo/promosale.php?webid=15anniversary
Dan_Kow
Apr 28th, 2011, 04:21 PM
Due to the volatile nature of computer prices, items will only be refunded at the current pricing at the time of return.
So if you buy something at $50 on clearance, and it goes back to $100, you will actually get $85-$90 (depending on where the 15% is taken off) back? I highly doubt that, and NCIX will only invoke that clause if it benefits their POS little operation.
happyface
Apr 28th, 2011, 04:21 PM
Is the NCIX sale over already? I don't see the $69 advertised anywhere.. its just $84.99.
I do see the message "HURRY! Limited Quantities at this price! This special price will be applied ONLY after you complete your order, and will be processed in the order that they were received. No rainchecks or price matches at this special pricing. In-store stock does not reflect number of units available at this price." but it doesn't tell me what the special price is?!
This item is SOLD OUT @ $69
aasoror
Apr 28th, 2011, 04:41 PM
So if you buy something at $50 on clearance, and it goes back to $100, you will actually get $85-$90 (depending on where the 15% is taken off) back? I highly doubt that, and NCIX will only invoke that clause if it benefits their POS little operation.
Hopefully someone from QC can hold them accountable for this nonsense.
BB88
Apr 28th, 2011, 04:42 PM
They have a 15% restocking fee for returned items and it will be returned with the current pricing of the item.
Items eligible for return are subject to a 15% restocking fee, and if approved by NCIX.com would be eligible for exchange, merchandise credit or refund. Due to the volatile nature of computer prices, items will only be refunded at the current pricing at the time of return. Software must be in its original box and unopened (still sealed in its original shrink wrap). Defective software will be exchanged with the same title (subject to availability).
Is that for unopened items or opened items?
aasoror
Apr 28th, 2011, 04:48 PM
Is that for unopened items or opened items?
ALL items.
This item is SOLD OUT @ $69
Apparently they decided price it too good for us, so they raised it to $55 after MIR. :facepalm:
Any way, back to infonec (who thankfully extended their sale for another week), current best price is $50 after MIR and PM.
Balanar08
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:08 PM
FML today.... Just received my PBO, and guess what, it disconnects my USB 2 external HD frequently. :evil: very angry now.... Does MExpress do exchanges? If so, do I have to pay for shipping?
aasoror
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:10 PM
FML today.... Just received my PBO, and guess what, it disconnects my USB 2 external HD frequently. :evil: very angry now.... Does MExpress do exchanges? If so, do I have to pay for shipping?
might not be defective, is the HDD USB or externally powered ? what size and how is it formated ?
bug
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:17 PM
Hopefully someone from QC can hold them accountable for this nonsense.
The Quebec consumer laws come into play only if the store has a physical presence in Quebec. NCIX does not.
kcirtap78
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:19 PM
Actually you are not correct. If this was the case dell would not ave honored our laptop deal. Law is applicable to any canadian company that sells good to quebec residents.
The Quebec consumer laws come into play only if the store has a physical presence in Quebec. NCIX does not.
Balanar08
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:26 PM
might not be defective, is the HDD USB or externally powered ? what size and how is it formated ?
It is a Seagate 500gb. Formatted as NTFS (default). Powered by USB.
Aero
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:39 PM
It is a Seagate 500gb. Formatted as NTFS (default). Powered by USB.
The USB from the PBO might not have the power to power it.
audit13
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:40 PM
FML today.... Just received my PBO, and guess what, it disconnects my USB 2 external HD frequently. :evil: very angry now.... Does MExpress do exchanges? If so, do I have to pay for shipping?
How old is the hard drive? Is it a 7200 rpm drive? SOme older drives may draw more power than the PBO can supply. A friend has an older 2.5" portable drive and, with a double-ended usb cable, he is able to use the drive with his PBO.
Balanar08
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:46 PM
How old is the hard drive? Is it a 7200 rpm drive? SOme older drives may draw more power than the PBO can supply. A friend has an older 2.5" portable drive and, with a double-ended usb cable, he is able to use the drive with his PBO.
Its not even a year old. Its pretty brand new, like 6 months old. Its a 5400 RPM.
Edit: just notice that when I press USB (with hard drive connected) I found my folder with my movies, nothing appears. My movies would sometimes appear and sometimes its just a single row with // to go back.
audit13
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:48 PM
Its not even a year old. Its pretty brand new, like 6 months old. Its a 5400 RPM.
I assume you tried both usb ports and a different usb cable. If that's the case, you may need to return the unit.
aasoror
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:50 PM
Its not even a year old. Its pretty brand new, like 6 months old. Its a 5400 RPM.
Well, power issues might be a problem (should be resolved with an externally powered USB hub).
Seagate was the most problematic USB powered HDD reporte on the PM forums (IIRC).
Some drives would just spin down for power saving and might get disconnected in the process (does disconnect when idle or during access) ?
Might want to try the other USB port and see if the issue persists.
If nothing work, I guess you would need to ask for a replacement.
Balanar08
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:50 PM
I assume you tried both usb ports and a different usb cable. If that's the case, you may need to return the unit.
By the way, I found out this unit was a C+ or something chip.
Dislike how I have to pay for the shipping but I hope they refund my shipping cost.
Balanar08
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:52 PM
Well, power issues might be a problem (should be resolved with an externally powered USB hub).
Seagate was the most problematic USB powered HDD reporte on the PM forums (IIRC).
Some drives would just spin down for power saving and might get disconnected in the process (does disconnect when idle or during access) ?
Might want to try the other USB port and see if the issue persists.
If nothing work, I guess you would need to ask for a replacement.
And if the problem does persist on the USB 1... then what?
aasoror
Apr 28th, 2011, 06:03 PM
By the way, I found out this unit was a C+ or something chip.
Wow, we got a winner ... :)
And if the problem does persist on the USB 1... then what?
Does that mean it worked fine on USB 2 ?
By the way are you sure the drive isn't spinning down ? this might explain the erratic behavior.
How is that USB port doing with other storage devices ? like the flash drive you used for the upgrade ?
I am just doubting there is nothing wrong with your PBO and that this is just the USB powered drive not getting enough power from USB.
audit13
Apr 28th, 2011, 06:08 PM
By the way, I found out this unit was a C+ or something chip.
Dislike how I have to pay for the shipping but I hope they refund my shipping cost.
Which firmware did you use to check for the C+ chip?
Balanar08
Apr 28th, 2011, 06:17 PM
Wow, we got a winner ... :)
Does that mean it worked fine on USB 2 ?
By the way are you sure the drive isn't spinning down ? this might explain the erratic behavior.
How is that USB port doing with other storage devices ? like the flash drive you used for the upgrade ?
I am just doubting there is nothing wrong with your PBO and that this is just the USB powered drive not getting enough power from USB.
USB 2 is defective. USB 1; im testing it now and it is working fine as of now.
USB external HD works perfectly on PS3 and laptop.
Spinning down, what do you mean?
Edit: Im just mad, if I exchange it, will I still qualify for the rebate?
Which firmware did you use to check for the C+ chip?
My friend actually installed the firmware. Just got the phone, she said she flashed medeo (i think thats how you spell it) on it
audit13
Apr 28th, 2011, 06:48 PM
My friend actually installed the firmware. Just got the phone, she said she flashed medeo (i think thats how you spell it) on it
If it says 1073DD C+ under system info, great stuff. Unfortunately, your usb port may be malfaunctioning.
Balanar08
Apr 28th, 2011, 06:52 PM
If it says 1073DD C+ under system info, great stuff. Unfortunately, your usb port may be malfaunctioning.
Yeah, I guess I won the lottery. Just disappointed I have to exchange it.
I hope I don't miss out on the Rebate.
Just tested my USB #1 and its perfectly working for a full 53 minutes. Watch 2 episodes of Family guy.
audit13
Apr 28th, 2011, 06:57 PM
Yeah, I guess I won the lottery. Just disappointed I have to exchange it.
I hope I don't miss out on the Rebate.
Just tested my USB #1 and its perfectly working for a full 53 minutes. Watch 2 episodes of Family guy.
I hope you get another C+ unit if you need to exchange your current unit. Do you have the first 4 digits of the serial no? Mine is 1103 which does not have the C+ chip. I wonder if 1103 means the unit was made in March, 2011.
Balanar08
Apr 28th, 2011, 07:02 PM
I hope you get another C+ unit if you need to exchange your current unit. Do you have the first 4 digits of the serial no? Mine is 1103 which does not have the C+ chip. I wonder if 1103 means the unit was made in March, 2011.
1102MPBOxxxx.
audit13
Apr 28th, 2011, 07:04 PM
1102MPBOxxxx.
Thanks for the unfo. Now I know that a serial number is still not a reliable indicator for a C+ unit.
Balanar08
Apr 28th, 2011, 07:11 PM
Thanks for the unfo. Now I know that a serial number is still not a reliable indicator for a C+ unit.
Edit: My bad mistyped 1103 i meant.
audit13
Apr 28th, 2011, 07:14 PM
Edit: My bad mistyped 1103 i meant.
No worries. The first 4 digits or your s/n matches mine and mine doesn't have a C+ and yours does. This serves as even better confirmation that the serial numbers will not determine whether a C+ chip is inside the unit.
I guess it really only matters if you have HD audio sources and the requisite equipment to decode the HD bitstream.
aasoror
Apr 28th, 2011, 08:59 PM
USB 2 is defective. USB 1; im testing it now and it is working fine as of now.
Have you tried USB flash drivers with this port ? as far as I know the two ports have different power outputs.
Edit: Im just mad, if I exchange it, will I still qualify for the rebate?
Yes just keep the invoice of this order and use it with the new box.
Balanar08
Apr 28th, 2011, 09:13 PM
Have you tried USB flash drivers with this port ? as far as I know the two ports have different power outputs.
Yes just keep the invoice of this order and use it with the new box.
Oh smart, cause I have 30 days to do the rebate thingy correct? Should I use the original invoice or the recent Price Match invoice in my email?
Kk heres my results, my front USB slot (#1) works perfectly fine. Watched 1 part of The Road and 20 mins of Despicable Me and 2 full Episodes of Family Guy. No Problems what so ever.
However after I finished watching The Road, powered the device off and switched from USB port 1 to port 2. Selected my movie and after 2 minutes, it exited my movie and disconnected my hard drive. 1 minute later, it reconnected my hard drive. Ughhhh.
Shazam
Apr 28th, 2011, 09:36 PM
bought this today from NCIX. So far I tested it with WMV9, FLV, and MP4 video files which all seem to work.
However, I could not play a WMV7 video file, has anyone else had this problem?
is there a firmware upgrade to fix this?
Also, did the unit from NCIX ship with the latest firmware or does it need to be updated?
audit13
Apr 28th, 2011, 09:39 PM
bought this today from NCIX. So far I tested it with WMV9, FLV, and MP4 video files which all seem to work.
However, I could not play a WMV7 video file, has anyone else had this problem?
is there a firmware upgrade to fix this?
Also, did the unit from NCIX ship with the latest firmware or does it need to be updated?
You can check your firmware by pressing the stop button, then the pause button.
aasoror
Apr 28th, 2011, 09:54 PM
Oh smart, cause I have 30 days to do the rebate thingy correct? Should I use the original invoice or the recent Price Match invoice in my email?
Kk heres my results, my front USB slot (#1) works perfectly fine. Watched 1 part of The Road and 20 mins of Despicable Me and 2 full Episodes of Family Guy. No Problems what so ever.
However after I finished watching The Road, powered the device off and switched from USB port 1 to port 2. Selected my movie and after 2 minutes, it exited my movie and disconnected my hard drive. 1 minute later, it reconnected my hard drive. Ughhhh.
Use the original invoice.
You are still testing with the same drive, I was meant to use a different (less power hungry) flash drive.
bought this today from NCIX. So far I tested it with WMV9, FLV, and MP4 video files which all seem to work.
However, I could not play a WMV7 video file, has anyone else had this problem?
is there a firmware upgrade to fix this?
Also, did the unit from NCIX ship with the latest firmware or does it need to be updated?
WMV7 is outside the compatibility list of the PBO, unfortunately there is nothing to be done about it.
You most probably have P61, so its not the latest official (latest official is P70R2).
O1IN85
Apr 29th, 2011, 11:53 AM
Just when I decided to buy it I missed out on the NCIX deal :mad:
I don't understand on how I get this for $50. Which store should I get it from again? ME has it for the same price as Infonec.
Aero
Apr 29th, 2011, 11:59 AM
Just when I decided to buy it I missed out on the NCIX deal :mad:
I don't understand on how I get this for $50. Which store should I get it from again? ME has it for the same price as Infonec.
You basically buy it right now for $80 and the $30 is for MIR. Infonec has it for $80 but it doesn't have MIR so you PM it on another store that has MIR. The title is slightly confusing since you might see it as $50 - $30 MIR but its $80 - $30 MIR = $50 plus all those wonderful tax that you need to pay :lol:
Here, from Post #1
To get it at $49.99 get by PM'ing Infonec price ($79.99) at a store that has the MIR and also a PM policy (ME, NCIX or CC).
O1IN85
Apr 29th, 2011, 12:03 PM
facepalm if I got this wrong:
Buy it @ Infonec and tell them to PM ME/NCIX/CC
Correct?
Aero
Apr 29th, 2011, 12:11 PM
facepalm if I got this wrong:
Buy it @ Infonec and tell them to PM ME/NCIX/CC
Correct?
Reverse it.
ppl4golf
Apr 29th, 2011, 01:26 PM
facepalm if I got this wrong:
Buy it @ Infonec and tell them to PM ME/NCIX/CC
Correct?
Reverse it.
Good call on the facepalm!
boonjaca
Apr 30th, 2011, 04:20 PM
If I buy a 2nd one, can I still get the rebate for it or because I already used my address, I am now ineligible?
The form says Limit (1) rebate per product per address, except where prohibited by law.
aasoror
Apr 30th, 2011, 04:38 PM
If I buy a 2nd one, can I still get the rebate for it or because I already used my address, I am now ineligible?
The form says Limit (1) rebate per product per address, except where prohibited by law.
The first MIR you used is it the same as this one ? Same MIR period from the same retailer ?!
fiendy
Apr 30th, 2011, 04:46 PM
The first MIR you used is it the same as this one ? Same MIR period from the same retailer ?!
I was wondering that too. If I bought one back in feb. From Ncix, can I buy again in April or May and still be eligible for that rebate, the fine print wasn't clear. I could use my wife's name, but the address would be the same.
aasoror
Apr 30th, 2011, 04:55 PM
I was wondering that too. If I bought one back in feb. From Ncix, can I buy again in April or May and still be eligible for that rebate, the fine print wasn't clear. I could use my wife's name, but the address would be the same.
Sure yes, there is no need to use your wife's name. The offer is single submission per rebate offer (i.e. specific MIR form, specific retailer, specific period and offer number)
WalmartMartyr
Apr 30th, 2011, 06:09 PM
anybody upgrade to the latest firmware? whats the differnece between the 61 and 72?
how do I check if I got the C+ or not. I push stop and pause at the title screen for the system info, but where do i look?
audit13
Apr 30th, 2011, 06:13 PM
anybody upgrade to the latest firmware? whats the differnece between the 61 and 72?
how do I check if I got the C+ or not. I push stop and pause at the title screen for the system info, but where do i look?
I prefer medebo for it's user interface and internet radio. To check for the C+ chip, you need to load medebo or acrbo and look under system info. If you have a C+ chip, you will seel 1073DD C+. Non-C+ chips show 1073DD.
WalmartMartyr
Apr 30th, 2011, 06:19 PM
How do you add canadian stocks in the stock quote IMS section? I figured out how to do Venture stocks, just the 3 letter acronym with .v at the end. If I just post the 3 letter acronym, I get the US stock. What do I add for the canadian equivilant. I tried, for example, SVM, I used SVM.T SVM.TSX T.SVM TSX.SVM but nothing works.
What do I use?
WalmartMartyr
Apr 30th, 2011, 06:21 PM
I prefer medebo for it's user interface and internet radio. To check for the C+ chip, you need to load medebo or acrbo and look under system info. If you have a C+ chip, you will seel 1073DD C+. Non-C+ chips show 1073DD.
wouldn't the stop pause trick show what audios are supported and thus tell you what chip you have?
where is the MEDEBO for dummies website for the PBO?
WalmartMartyr
Apr 30th, 2011, 08:15 PM
when I press stop and pause, my bootcode says its 0000.0202.0027 Does this mean my bootcode si 27, which means 18+?
aasoror
Apr 30th, 2011, 10:53 PM
Does this mean my bootcode si 27, which means 18+?
yes, yes
killoverme
Apr 30th, 2011, 11:04 PM
If it says 1073DD C+ under system info, great stuff. Unfortunately, your usb port may be malfaunctioning.
Cool just found out my Partriot box is C+ bought it a while ago but stuck to stock firmware.
I'm having a problem with my Patriot box.
My problem is that my wifi adapter isn't working, I bought a belkin F7d1101 v1 .
It worked once with the p61 then after a while of not using my patriot box, I turned it on and the adapter didn't work.
Everything else seems to work except the adapter
I tried 5 different firmwares
P02 P61 P70 medebo and the acr...
The P02 is the only one that recognizes it now. The other firmwares will say nothing and when I unplug it, it will quickly flash wifi ??? and then wifi unplugged.
With the P02 it freezes when searching for a wifi connection...
x51v
Apr 30th, 2011, 11:11 PM
flash to 1026 MedeBO_V4.0.4_SHIZZL_MOD_2,
the HDMI audio and SPDIF audio output at the same time, I would like to know how to turn off the HDMI output while using SPSIF output? or a bug?
Subtitle doesn't work, What kind of Sub format support by this version?
Thank you for answering the question.
aasoror
Apr 30th, 2011, 11:23 PM
The P02 is the only one that recognizes it now. The other firmwares will say nothing and when I unplug it, it will quickly flash wifi ??? and then wifi unplugged.
Have you tried the adapter on a PC ? I mean did you verify the adapter is still working fine (outside a PBO) ?
Might also want to try both USB ports and/or use a short(er) USB expansion cable.
the HDMI audio and SPDIF audio output at the same time, I would like to know how to turn off the HDMI output while using SPSIF output? or a bug?
For some its a bug, for others its a feature (even on official firmware), the only workaround right now is to mute your TV or AVR.
Subtitle doesn't work, What kind of Sub format support by this version?
Which have you tried and in which language and how did you try enabling it ?
.srt should run fine.
idx/sub would run depending on the authoring tool (txt2vobsub runs fine but subtitle workshop doesnt).
audit13
May 1st, 2011, 09:58 AM
flash to 1026 MedeBO_V4.0.4_SHIZZL_MOD_2,
the HDMI audio and SPDIF audio output at the same time, I would like to know how to turn off the HDMI output while using SPSIF output? or a bug?
Subtitle doesn't work, What kind of Sub format support by this version?
Thank you for answering the question.
I know that the PBO supports pgs subtitles in an m2ts container.
Aero
May 1st, 2011, 10:20 AM
Does this work with a HFS+ partition? My external drives are all formatted in HFS+ and it doesn't seem to read it but when I installed an internal drive (formatted in NTFS) it seems to read it. I hope that I am not having the USB problem. :confused:
audit13
May 1st, 2011, 10:25 AM
Does this work with a HFS+ partition? My external drives are all formatted in HFS+ and it doesn't seem to read it but when I installed an internal drive (formatted in NTFS) it seems to read it. I hope that I am not having the USB problem. :confused:
I've tried HFS+ and ntfs on my PBO and only the ntfs drive was recognized. From what I've seen in the PBO forums and Google, HFS+ is not supported on the PBO. I believe the WDTV and Seagate FAT+ support HFS+ and ntfs.
Aero
May 1st, 2011, 10:31 AM
I've tried HFS+ and ntfs on my PBO and only the ntfs drive was recognized. From what I've seen in the PBO forums and Google, HFS+ is not supported on the PBO. I believe the WDTV and Seagate FAT+ support HFS+ and ntfs.
Thanks, yeah my WDTV recognize the HFS+ drive and its what I used for my media storage, I guess I need to convert it to NTFS :(.
x51v
May 1st, 2011, 11:18 AM
Which have you tried and in which language and how did you try enabling it ?
.srt should run fine.
idx/sub would run depending on the authoring tool (txt2vobsub runs fine but subtitle workshop doesnt).
both Chinese and Japanese don't work, both are .srt enable in the setup menu, I tried to change the font support while playing the movie, but shows only dot and dash etc, but the number shows properly.
thank you
aasoror
May 1st, 2011, 01:44 PM
I've tried HFS+ and ntfs on my PBO and only the ntfs drive was recognized. From what I've seen in the PBO forums and Google, HFS+ is not supported on the PBO. I believe the WDTV and Seagate FAT+ support HFS+ and ntfs.
I know for sure ACRBO supoorts HFS+
both Chinese and Japanese don't work, both are .srt enable in the setup menu, I tried to change the font support while playing the movie, but shows only dot and dash etc, but the number shows properly.
thank you
Might want to try one Asian ACRBO.
Links in the wiki below
killoverme
May 1st, 2011, 02:38 PM
Have you tried the adapter on a PC ? I mean did you verify the adapter is still working fine (outside a PBO) ?
Might also want to try both USB ports and/or use a short(er) USB expansion cable.
I didn't use an extenstion cable or anything so it was directly plugged in. It does work with my windows, but had to install the drivers manually, as default drivers didn't work (had to use the belkin ones [i think this might be the problem, but it worked before... wondering how it stopped working....])
x51v
May 1st, 2011, 05:35 PM
I know for sure ACRBO supoorts HFS+
Might want to try one Asian ACRBO.
Links in the wiki below
I follow this http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?2871-other-firmware-on-PBO&p=22655#post22655. But doesn't work. Am I miss something?
mount / -o remount,rw
mv /usr/local/bin/Resource/ARIALUNI.TTF /usr/local/bin/Resource/ARIALUNI.TTF_BK or rm -rf/usr/local/bin/Resource/ARIALUNI.TTF
cp /tmp/usbmounts/sda1/ARIALUNI.TTF /usr/local/etc/ARIALUNI.TTF
ln -s /usr/local/etc/ARIALUNI.TTF /usr/local/bin/Resource/ARIALUNI.TTF
ln: /usr/local/bin/Resource/ARIALUNI.TTF: File exists something wrong??
reboot
aasoror
May 1st, 2011, 05:43 PM
I follow this http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?2871-other-firmware-on-PBO&p=22655#post22655. But doesn't work. Am I miss something?
no you don't need to go through all this.
Just find ACRBO (http://patriot-box-office.wikidot.com/pbo-alternative-custom-firmwares)in my wiki link below and download and flash the Asian 4824 version and see if it fixes your problem.
WalmartMartyr
May 1st, 2011, 06:56 PM
I just DL'd Tron BlueRay ISO, 48GB's. Took me 4 days. Anyway, the PBO could not play it smoothly, the video was choppy and there was no sound. This was via wirelesssN and LAN cable.
aasoror
May 1st, 2011, 07:06 PM
I just DL'd Tron BlueRay ISO, 48GB's. Took me 4 days. Anyway, the PBO could not play it smoothly, the video was choppy and there was no sound. This was via wirelesssN and LAN cable.
Extract the ISO and run the BDMV directory over the network, this should solve your problem. (unless you are willing to go for NFS sharing instead of SMB).
nosnoop
May 1st, 2011, 07:59 PM
both Chinese and Japanese don't work, both are .srt enable in the setup menu, I tried to change the font support while playing the movie, but shows only dot and dash etc, but the number shows properly.
thank you
Do you have problem only after you flashed to this version? Have you gotten it working with stock firmware?
I have no problem displaying chinese srt files with any PBO firmwares including stock and MedeBO (haven't tried Shizzl version, but I can't imagine it would be any different).
I usually convert all the chinese srts to unicode (UTF-8). And no, you don't need to telnet in and fiddle around any of the files.
audit13
May 1st, 2011, 09:42 PM
I just DL'd Tron BlueRay ISO, 48GB's. Took me 4 days. Anyway, the PBO could not play it smoothly, the video was choppy and there was no sound. This was via wirelesssN and LAN cable.
Tron is 48gb? Yikes! A 2D rip from the North American BR release of Tron Legacy with English subtitles and the DTS-HD MA track was 28gb.
x51v
May 1st, 2011, 09:59 PM
Do you have problem only after you flashed to this version? Have you gotten it working with stock firmware?
I have no problem displaying chinese srt files with any PBO firmwares including stock and MedeBO (haven't tried Shizzl version, but I can't imagine it would be any different).
I usually convert all the chinese srts to unicode (UTF-8). And no, you don't need to telnet in and fiddle around any of the files.
I don't have any problem with the stock firmware, don't know why MedeBO Shizzl version doesn't work, I tried to figure it out today, end up I bricked it.:cry: I go ACRBO now, I find my BOX with C+, :cheesygri . it doesn't have problem with Sub.
Question: My computer can't find the BOX(PBO with HDD) now?? How to share files between ACRBO and the computer?
Thank you.
btong
May 2nd, 2011, 12:52 AM
Anyone have trouble with pbo not playing sound in the center channel? I am using a Onkyo tx-sr309, all other speakers played fine. I have set the settings to output raw. No luck.
Edit: Figured out the problem, not on the PBO but the receiver. Both A/B speakers were selected; hence it falls back to 5.1 forcing a stereo output. Once I switch it to just A (main speakers), I get DTS and center speaker comes back.
audit13
May 2nd, 2011, 05:11 PM
Anyone have trouble with pbo not playing sound in the center channel? I am using a Onkyo tx-sr309, all other speakers played fine. I have set the settings to output raw. No luck.
How is the PBO connected to you receiver? Have you tried different source material on your PBO? How about different inputs on your receiver?
audit13
May 2nd, 2011, 05:12 PM
I go ACRBO now, I find my BOX with C+, :cheesygri....
Congratulations on getting a C+. Where and when did you get your PBO?
aasoror
May 2nd, 2011, 05:41 PM
OP updated.
ballertyped
May 2nd, 2011, 05:52 PM
I have two PBO units on two different TV's, it seems on network only one will show up as "VENUS", can I change the name on one, so I can see both on the network at the same time?
aasoror
May 2nd, 2011, 06:17 PM
I have two PBO units on two different TV's, it seems on network only one will show up as "VENUS", can I change the name on one, so I can see both on the network at the same time?
Just use the IPs instead of the machine names and you should be fine.
Other ways involves edits via telnet or flashing custom firmwares.
ppl4golf
May 2nd, 2011, 06:58 PM
Return and rebuy. $39 post MIR is a heck of a deal.
I am still deprived of C+ (no luck in the second unit) and I am getting scurvy.
aasoror
May 2nd, 2011, 07:04 PM
Return and rebuy. $39 post MIR is a heck of a deal.
I am still deprived of C+ (no luck in the second unit) and I am getting scurvy.
The $39 was only valid for few hours, I think NCIX changed the price the very next day following the sale.
ballertyped
May 2nd, 2011, 08:08 PM
The $39 was only valid for few hours, I think NCIX changed the price the very next day following the sale.
I got the $39 !! Already Sent in Rebate, used this HDD (http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=15_215_217&item_id=035410), Thanks!!!
x51v
May 2nd, 2011, 08:39 PM
Congratulations on getting a C+. Where and when did you get your PBO?
I got it on Oct, 2010, from ME, it is hard to find the HD audio source, I don't have any expectation at that time.
By the way, ACRBO main menu's Movie and Music is empty, how to add the files? HDD has Movie and Music folder with files before I use ACRBO, Thanks.
ppl4golf
May 2nd, 2011, 09:06 PM
Return and rebuy. $39 post MIR is a heck of a deal.
I am still deprived of C+ (no luck in the second unit) and I am getting scurvy.
The $39 was only valid for few hours, I think NCIX changed the price the very next day following the sale.
One thing I learned : shoot and ask question later.
The PBO was my 2nd order that night. I regret not ordering the Sony Bloggie, bummer.
audit13
May 2nd, 2011, 09:23 PM
I got it on Oct, 2010, from ME, it is hard to find the HD audio source, I don't have any expectation at that time.
By the way, ACRBO main menu's Movie and Music is empty, how to add the files? HDD has Movie and Music folder with files before I use ACRBO, Thanks.
Thanks for the info about the chip. I got mine from Ncix around the same time and also got a C+ chip.
Is there a view function in acrbo? I use medebo and there is an option to view your media library.
CHEAP_AZZ
May 2nd, 2011, 11:32 PM
Did anybody buy one from NCIX @ Midland and Finch lately?
Wondering if the units @ NCIX have the new C+ chip.
Thanks!
audit13
May 3rd, 2011, 05:24 PM
Did anybody buy one from NCIX @ Midland and Finch lately?
Wondering if the units @ NCIX have the new C+ chip.
Thanks!
My friend got 2 units on Saturday from the Markham store and neither of them had the C+ chip. More than likely, the Midland store would not have C+ chips.
jpleau
May 3rd, 2011, 07:26 PM
My friend got 2 units on Saturday from the Markham store and neither of them had the C+ chip. More than likely, the Midland store would not have C+ chips.
It's been mentioned several times, the C+ chips are not found in any sequence of serial numbers or batches. Just because a store has/doesn't have the units with the C+ chip, it means nothing. A store could have received 10 units in March and they all had it, and then received 10 units in April that don't. Until the manufacturer is depleted of their old chip stock (which is not sequential and interspersed with c+ stock), then there is zero way of knowing if you are getting the chip regardless of the store you shop at. Myself, I got a c+ chip in the unit I received (in the old packaging) in November, and the unit I got in Feb (in the new PBO Core packaging) did not have the c+ chip, both ordered from NCIX.
audit13
May 3rd, 2011, 08:03 PM
It's been mentioned several times, the C+ chips are not found in any sequence of serial numbers or batches. Just because a store has/doesn't have the units with the C+ chip, it means nothing. A store could have received 10 units in March and they all had it, and then received 10 units in April that don't. Until the manufacturer is depleted of their old chip stock (which is not sequential and interspersed with c+ stock), then there is zero way of knowing if you are getting the chip regardless of the store you shop at. Myself, I got a c+ chip in the unit I received (in the old packaging) in November, and the unit I got in Feb (in the new PBO Core packaging) did not have the c+ chip, both ordered from NCIX.
Thanks for the info. I made my posting in response to CHEAP_AZZ's question.
66xx66
May 3rd, 2011, 10:20 PM
how do you add shortcut in medebo fw? i'm trying to access videos over the network and want to use shortcut so i don't have enter multiple folder to get to my videos.
x51v
May 3rd, 2011, 10:24 PM
Did anybody buy one from NCIX @ Midland and Finch lately?
Wondering if the units @ NCIX have the new C+ chip.
Thanks!
:cheesygri easter is over for this year, you guys are still doing the eggs hunting??
It is not easy to get the HD audio source, I don't think the C+ chip is a big deal. :cheesygri
audit13
May 4th, 2011, 04:16 PM
:cheesygri easter is over for this year, you guys are still doing the eggs hunting??
It is not easy to get the HD audio source, I don't think the C+ chip is a big deal. :cheesygri
+1. If you don't have a HD audio source, the C+ chip will not make any difference.
If a person has an HD audio source but a player without a C+ chip, it's easy to recode the HD audio as multichannel pcm and remux the movie with the decoded soundtrack. The file size will grow but the improvement in sound makes it all worthwhile.
aasoror
May 4th, 2011, 05:10 PM
it's easy to recode the HD audio as multichannel pcm and remux the movie with the decoded soundtrack. The file size will grow but the improvement in sound makes it all worthwhile.
audit, can you advise a guide for the end-to-end process ?
I was hoping for something more automated than manually rip -> demux -> re-encode -> remux
aasoror
May 4th, 2011, 05:13 PM
Infonec just got the MIR too,
Flat rate shipping $9 for orders above $100.
Less hassle to PM for those who can find a filler or able to pickup locally.
icesoulz
May 4th, 2011, 06:20 PM
Infonec actually has it for free shipping
aasoror
May 4th, 2011, 07:06 PM
Infonec actually has it for free shipping
Unless I am missing something, the least delivery option at checkout is $25.53 (order less than $100), local pickup is free.
Vizla78
May 4th, 2011, 07:17 PM
Hello,
I have a PBO with a 500 gb hd. but I think I bricked it when doing a flash. I would be willing to try and fix it if someone here can help me, or i would be willing to sell it. comeswith the remote control and the usb cable. will sell with the hard drive for 90.00
or without the hardrive for 25.00. I live in st. kitts, canada and am mobile so I can meet you or come to your place if your close by.
audit13
May 4th, 2011, 07:19 PM
audit, can you advise a guide for the end-to-end process ?
I was hoping for something more automated than manually rip -> demux -> re-encode -> remux
Unfortunately, I don't know how to automate the process since I need to use so many programs to remux. I'll describe the process and maybe another RFD member could partially or fully automate the process using the same or different programs.
The process described below has ways worked for me. If someone could come up with a better, quicker, or more automated method, please share. Thanks.
After the video and audio have been placed on a hard drive in a bdmv folder format:
1. use TSmuxer to remux the main movie, HD soundtrack, and the pgs subtitles in an avchd format. TSmuxer can work with m2ts and mpls files. Usually, the main movie would be the largest file in the \bdmv\stream\ folder. If there is no single m2ts file that contains the entire movie, just select the appropriate mpls file from the \bdmv\playlist\ folder. With TSmuxer, you may have to experiment with different mpls files in order to find the right one.
2. use HDBRStream extractor to extract the HD soundtrack from the remuxed movie as a .w64 file. I usually place the w64 file in a folder named remux.
3. use TSMuxer to extract the movie and subtitles to the folder where you saved the w64 file in step 2 (i.e. folder named remux).
4. use TSMuxer to remux the files from the remux folder in an avchd format.
Why do I perform step 1? Because it shrinks the size of the finished product from the original. Also, if there is no one m2ts file that contains the entire movie, remuxing will take the multiple m2ts files and join them as a single m2ts file.
Why do I perform step 2? Because it produces a decoded multichannel pcm soundtrack that is sonically identical to the lossless DTS-HD MA or TrueHD soundtrack.
Why do I perform step 3? Because it produces h264 and pgs files that can be remuxed with the decoded HD soundtrack.
Why do I perform step 4? Because it produces a finished product that plays back perfectly on a WDTV, PBO, FAT+, and Oppo BD-93/95 with full resolution video, HD audio, and subtitles with no sync or playback issues.
Note that many BRs include a DTS-HD MA soundtrack and, in order to decode the DTS-HD audio track rather than just the DTS core audio, you need to have a working DTS-HD audio decoder on pc. If you want to determine whether your system supports decoding a DTS-HD soundtrack rather than just DTS core audio, use HDBRStream extractor to extract a DTS-HD MA soundtrack. If the decoded soundtrack's file size is larger than the original DTS-HD MA file size, you're good to go. If it is smaller, your system can only decode the DTS core audio. FFDShow can only decode DTS core audio. For TrueHD, FFDShow is all you need.
Software required: tsmuxer, HDBRStream Extractor, DTS-HD decoder, FFDShow, eac3to.
I apologoze in advance if any of my instructions are not clear. It may seem like a very roundabout way to get to the end but, as I said before, it has always worked for me and the end product sonically and visually excellent. I just do other things on my computer while I run through each step.
audit13
May 4th, 2011, 07:23 PM
Hello,
I have a PBO with a 500 gb hd. but I think I bricked it when doing a flash. I would be willing to try and fix it if someone here can help me, or i would be willing to sell it. comeswith the remote control and the usb cable. will sell with the hard drive for 90.00
or without the hardrive for 25.00. I live in st. kitts, canada and am mobile so I can meet you or come to your place if your close by.
Are you getting a "Can not boot from HD" error?
I suggest downloading the official P02 firmware to a freshly fat32 formatted usb key. Power off the PBO by removing the power adapter from the back of the unit, inserting the usb key into the back of the PBO, reattahing the power cord, and leave the unit alone as it powers back up. Hopefully, the PBO will eventially start reading usb flash key and flash the firmware back to the unit. In order to view what is happening, I recommend connecting the PBO to your display via composite video. Good luck.
icesoulz
May 4th, 2011, 07:30 PM
Unless I am missing something, the least delivery option at checkout is $25.53 (order less than $100), local pickup is free.
at checkout, i get a FREE Shipping applies to this order. Please click Continue.
aasoror
May 4th, 2011, 08:08 PM
at checkout, i get a FREE Shipping applies to this order. Please click Continue.
I stand corrected, thanks for pointing this.
Shipping Detail:Flat Fee Shipping $0.00
Ontario Environmental Fee: $2.75
HST (13%) $10.71
Total Price $95.85
Rick007
May 4th, 2011, 10:05 PM
Hello, I have a PBO with a 500 gb hd. but I think I bricked it when doing a flash.
Have you ever completed a successful flash or was this your first attempt?.
If it is your first attempt and your getting "Can not boot from HD" error", then try a different brand of USB stick. I had the same problem until I switched to a new Kingston Data Traveller. I also recommend following Audit13's suggestions, keeping in mind that the reboot may fail multiple times before it succeeds. Just sit back and wait for several cycles.
btong
May 5th, 2011, 04:06 PM
Flashed with the latest semi official firmware, working fine.
I have attached a USB wifi adapter to it and a 2.5" HDD inside.
However, I am unable to comprehend how to activate RSS based jukebox.
I don't plan on setting up Jukebox with the computer I am networking to as 98% of the time I will be playing movies from the HDD inside the PBO. I just want the JukeBox to display movie sheets of the movies in the drive.
I have tried MedeBO 1026 firmware and successfully added movie sheets to the video wall using YAMJ. However, I prefer the official firmware because MedeBO couldn't find the second partition on my laptop where it's network to.
Here is where I am at:
1. Installed P70R2 megapack
2. Installed Putty
3. Installed TViXiE2Playon!HD
4. Found out the IP of the PBO and telneted to PBO using Putty
5. Used command "mount -o remount,rw /"
5. Used command "vi /usr/local/bin/scripts/Movie_Jukebox/Movie_Jukebox.rss"
Then I am lost, what do I need to edit in the file? And then what happens after that?
I have already looked at this: http://www.acryan.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=45544#p45544
and http://patriot-box-office.wikidot.com/customizing-the-pbo:a-mini-guide
But I couldn't find a link between the above steps I have taken and TViXiE2Playon!HD Instructions. Will I also need to use thumbgen if I use TViXiE2Playon!HD?
Any help would be appreciated.
aasoror
May 5th, 2011, 04:52 PM
I just want the JukeBox to display movie sheets of the movies in the drive.
Why not check the much easier to setup "simple RSS jukebox" by snappy (http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?6406-Simple-RSS-Jukebox) ?
Its made for exactly what you are describing.
aasoror
May 5th, 2011, 08:21 PM
Infonec sale extended till May 31
Free shipping extended till Dec 31, 2011
MIR till May 31
Infonec is the place to go for the PBO now ;)
OP updated ..
btong
May 6th, 2011, 12:33 AM
Why not check the much easier to setup "simple RSS jukebox" by snappy (http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?6406-Simple-RSS-Jukebox) ?
Its made for exactly what you are describing.
I have read the link a few times.
Telneted and ran this command:
/usr/local/etc/srjg/jukebox_update.sh -i -p /tmp/hdd/volumes/HDD1/
I believe that it scanned my HDD to look for movies and created Jukebox.rss & jukebox.xml. (not sure where exactly it gets created these files) I understand that I need a folder.jpg (thumbnail) a 0001.jpg (moviesheet) and a about.jpg in the same folder as each movie. This was done with thumbgen.
So this part seemed to work.
I plugged the PBO in and tried to access the Jukebox and I get "unable to service request"
What am I missing?
Eyeman
May 6th, 2011, 07:16 AM
Cool just found out my Partriot box is C+ bought it a while ago but stuck to stock firmware.
I'm having a problem with my Patriot box.
My problem is that my wifi adapter isn't working, I bought a belkin F7d1101 v1 .
It worked once with the p61 then after a while of not using my patriot box, I turned it on and the adapter didn't work.
Everything else seems to work except the adapter
I tried 5 different firmwares
P02 P61 P70 medebo and the acr...
The P02 is the only one that recognizes it now. The other firmwares will say nothing and when I unplug it, it will quickly flash wifi ??? and then wifi unplugged.
With the P02 it freezes when searching for a wifi connection...
Ditto. The PBO is a piece of junk. It works then it doesn't work. Then it works and it stops working. It does all sorts of unpredictable thinks for no apparent reason. No one would stand for a computer that acted like this thing.
Bottom line - this is not a finished product. Patriot needs to put a lot more working the thing before releasing it to unsuspecting buyers.
Menace
May 6th, 2011, 07:43 AM
Is it a piece of junk because WiFi doesn't work? WiFi isn't a perfect choice for video (SD or HD) streaming.
Bottom line - hard wired and powerline is the choice. If you can't get either, too bad buddy :)
Ditto. The PBO is a piece of junk. It works then it doesn't work. Then it works and it stops working. It does all sorts of unpredictable thinks for no apparent reason. No one would stand for a computer that acted like this thing.
Bottom line - this is not a finished product. Patriot needs to put a lot more working the thing before releasing it to unsuspecting buyers.
Totoriko
May 6th, 2011, 07:53 AM
$77.77 at PCCyber, no MIR
http://pccyber.com/?v=Product&i=MULTI-PT-PCMPB-O25