How do those kijiji + paypal scams where they offer you 2x your asking price work?

[actng]

I've been getting a lot of offers from people on kijiji and craigslist offering me 2x or more my asking price... they're offering to paypal me the money if i request it from them on paypal or give them my paypal email address.

all i have to do is ship the item overseas.

they always make up some excuse about why they can't meet up but are willing to pay for shipping and it's a gift for a relative.

i'm almost tempted to just go through with one to see how it works?

[JAC]

Stolen PayPal accounts, stolen credit cards.

[actng]

uh so how does it work still? they're using other people's money to get free stuff shipped to them?
so i can scam them back by not sending them the package and keeping the money until paypal/bank seizes it back?

[JAC]

uh so how does it work still? they're using other people's money to get free stuff shipped to them?
so i can scam them back by not sending them the package and keeping the money until paypal/bank seizes it back?

Except you're not hurting them, you're hurting the poor bastard whose account was hacked.

[actng]

but then i would have an address on them now
someone will physically have to goto that address to pickup the goods
after i make the sale i can report theM?

[Spongeg]

couldn't you report them now? you must have an email connection with them or something

[actng]

couldn't you report them now? you must have an email connection with them or something

they haven't really committed any crimes yet
offering 2x the asking price and paying by paypal isn't illegal

on the other hand if i sent them an empty box that makes me a scammer too. hmmm.

[Anjexu]

If they ask you to send them an invoice it's a stolen CC.

If they ask you to just give them your e-mail (they'll cross reference it with what info they can get from you [with your outside communication]) they'll send you $$$ from a hacked account (most likely).

Something like that at least. :lol:

[actng]

ok but in the end they "gain" by buying merchandise, most of which are USED...? I just don't get how that makes any sense... it's so hard to unload merchandise.

[tonganoxie]

Try this - http://www.419eater.com/

[miscbrah]

uh so how does it work still? they're using other people's money to get free stuff shipped to them?
so i can scam them back by not sending them the package and keeping the money until paypal/bank seizes it back?

under canadian law, you, especially since you have knowledge of the questionable source of funds, would be required to return the funds to the account holder and would have to find the scammer in order to get your item back. If you believed in good faith, and with the common sense of an average reasonable person, that the funds were coming from a legitimate source, you may be able to make a case to retain the funds from the sale, but would most likely still be ruled to return the money to the stolen account's owner.

[Mendesb]

Stolen PayPal accounts, stolen credit cards.


If they ask you to send them an invoice it's a stolen CC.

If they ask you to just give them your e-mail (they'll cross reference it with what info they can get from you [with your outside communication]) they'll send you $$$ from a hacked account (most likely).

Something like that at least. :lol:

Most of the time these days they dont even paypal you. They send you an email making it look like you received funds when you didnt :)


under canadian law, you, especially since you have knowledge of the questionable source of funds, would be required to return the funds to the account holder and would have to find the scammer in order to get your item back. If you believed in good faith, and with the common sense of an average reasonable person, that the funds were coming from a legitimate source, you may be able to make a case to retain the funds from the sale, but would most likely still be ruled to return the money to the stolen account's owner.

they usually say "100$ for insurance"

[SBR]

There is also another PayPal + Kijiji/eBay/Craigslist/anything scam.

Goes like this:

-scammer finds your item, wants it
-says they don't have time to withdraw money, or whatever, and will pay by PayPal and pick it up
-pick up occurs, then when you check your PayPal account, immediately refunded because it was a fraudulent payment
-you're out an item

[purequickness]

If a deal is too good to be true, it probably is.

Why would someone pay 2x the amount of money for your product when they clearly could buy it cheaper elsewhere?

People may be rich but they're not stupid like that.


Sketchy.


Also, as a seller, it may be hard for you to sell items, but don't get greedy and try to do something like this to make a sale - you'll get scammed hard, and it's really not fair since you guys are hard working people, and the money you gain is through hard work.

Just be careful.

[jyc327]

i've had two or 3 of these when i tried to sell my bb9700. asking 300 offered 500USD shipped to africa? yes they told me its for there nephew or some crap.

and just for the heck of it i'm like sure set invoice to my verified paypal.

you know they said? I was told that using your ISP's email for paypal is not very safe and that I should sign up for a new account.

then they sent me an "invoice", i got 2 invoices from two different people who wanted to buy it for exactly 500USD sounds interesting yet? same person sent the offer to me twice as i posted on craigslist and kajiji.

so look at the "invoice" as was like hmmmm exactly the same even the transaction# at the bottom. I also checked teh complete header....the stupid email links me to some .ru URL and it loooks like paypal but i saw all the links are just redirected to some other server which likely means they are trying to jack your paypal as well as get free mechandise.

i then replied that i've already sold the unit locally even though it sitting right in front of me at that point in time. Get this both "individuals" threaten to report me to WHAT!!!?

i kindly replied that all correspondence has been forward to the RCMP and the fraud Bureau.

and I get a load of swearing and threats.

[kisa_]

If a deal is too good to be true, it probably is.

Why would someone pay 2x the amount of money for your product when they clearly could buy it cheaper elsewhere?

People may be rich but they're not stupid like that.

Sketchy.


Also, as a seller, it may be hard for you to sell items, but don't get greedy and try to do something like this to make a sale - you'll get scammed hard, and it's really not fair since you guys are hard working people, and the money you gain is through hard work.

Just be careful.

Exactly. 2x the price of the average price doesnt add up. If they seem deperate for this item, total scam.

At most people will be asking to lower a price, or when in need the item badly, a person would go up a reasonable price of 20, 40, 50, not 2x