[Merged] The DSLR Camera Megathread

[wetsnot]

Last updated: Mar 25


Nikon D3100 Body - Vistek $529.95
http://www.vistek.ca/store/CameraLenses/251729/a.aspx

Nikon D90 Body - PM Black's and BB $626.99 ** OOS ***
http://www.blacks.ca/blacks/jump/product/8731/photoprice.ca/x/x/product.jsp?skuId=8731&prdId=8731&bauth=1
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/photoprice.ca/10113241.aspx

[lpsaad]

For a second I thought Wetsnot was a Camera Store's name...:facepalm:

[trife]

This looks like it's shaping up to be a good thread. I'm in the market for a canon dslr.

Wetsnot keep it up!

[sonic]

Thanks! Im on the lookout for a beginners SLR, maybe a canon rebel XS.
I will check back here...hopefully prices will get lower near to boxing day.

[dorje]

For a second I thought Wetsnot was a Camera Store's name...:facepalm:

got me wondering if it was a US store

[desertdeal]

For a second I thought Wetsnot was a Camera Store's name...:facepalm:

+1, :lol:

[Kayne]

Good idea for a thread and just for the record the 7D body only was $1430 on Future Shop online only sale over the weekend. That will probably be there boxing day price.

[dorkus99]

Vistek is having their 11 days of deals.
Currently have the Nikon D90 with 18-105mm VR lens for $899 + free ship
Not the greatest deal, but it is the cheapest you can get it right now if your looking for that body + lens combo

http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

[wetsnot]

Good idea for a thread and just for the record the 7D body only was $1430 on Future Shop online only sale over the weekend. That will probably be there boxing day price.

the 7D body is currently at $1439.99 at Aden and Merkle, so there is a very good chance of a return to $1430.

[freebiefinder]

Great thread. Vistek also offers a number of deals through Visaperks.ca

The deals I've seen have all been warm (better than regular price but not like Boxing day) but you can check them out yourself:

http://www.vistek.ca/visteksavings/visac/

[andreid]

Thanks for this!

While it is not for everybody, there are great deals possible with FS/BB OPen Box items. Not that I needed it, I couldn't resist a SONY 390 for $99.97 at BB. Don't be afraid to discuss their Open Box sticker prices. Often the supervisor is open to make a deal. There are going to be a lot "deals" after BDay... Cheers.



Friday December 10

Panasonic Lumix DMC-G2 with 14-42mm lens PM Futureshop and Henrys - $579.99
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/x/10144749.aspx

http://www.henrys.ca/59179-PANASONIC-DMC-G2-W-14-42-3-5-5-6-BLACK.aspx

Canon EOS 7D with 18-135mm lens PM Futureshop and Aden Camera - $1708.49
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/x/10130566.aspx

http://www.adencamera.com/prod-overview.asp?ProdID=3001


Canon EOS 60D with 18-135mm Lens - PM Futureshop and Henry's $1264.99 YMMV
Futureshop has mistakenly listed the Canon EOS 60D with 18-135mm lens twice, one with a way higher price.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-60d-18-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-18-135mm-lens-kit-60d-18-135kit/10159641.aspx?path=012ee6f09c77fd17deb925b26d9067f 3en02
$1649.99

http://www.henrys.ca/62528-CANON-EOS-60D-W-EF-S-18-135-IS-LENS.aspx
$1299.99

Here is the correct FS price
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-60d-18-1mp-dslr-camera-with-18-135mm-lens-kit-future-shop-exclusive-60d-18-135kit/10154253.aspx?path=1e4e813b348b8948a2359cd2a18b0d0 8en02
$1299.99

YMMV


Nikon D3100 with 18-55mm and 55-200mm Lens $828.88 - London Drugs
Kinda warm
http://www.londondrugs.com/Cultures/en-US/Product+Detail/Cameras.htm?BreadCrumbs=Cameras;Cameras;Cameras%20-%20Digital;Cameras%20-%20Digital%20SLR&ProductID=9817099&ProductTab=3


Nikon D90 body only PM Bestbuy and The Camera Store - $659.95
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/nikon-nikon-d90-12-3mp-dslr-camera-body-only-d90-body/10113241.aspx?path=0915b1a499eef96926111545497ee8b 5en02

https://www.thecamerastore.com/products/cameras/digital-cameras/digital-slr-cameras/nikon-d90-body

* Free shipping at The Camera Store

or PM FS
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/x/10113241.aspx


Canon EOS 60D with 18-200mm Lens Vistek - $1299
http://www.vistek.ca/store/CameraLenses/251862/a.aspx

You can also PM Bestbuy but it's only $50 difference: http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/x/10155026.aspx


Canon EOS Rebel T1i with 18-55mm Lens PM Bestbuy and The Camera Store - $571.08
http://www.thecamerastore.com/products/cameras/digital-cameras/digital-slr-cameras/canon-eos-rebel-t1i-18-55mm-f35-56

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/x/10120034.aspx


Canon T2i with 18-135mm Lens Aden Camera - $949.99
http://www.adencamera.com/prod-overview.asp?ProdID=3181

Panasonic G10 with 14-42 and 45-200mm lens London Drugs - $699.99
http://www.londondrugs.com/Cultures/en-US/Product+Detail/Cameras.htm?BreadCrumbs=Cameras;Cameras;Cameras%20-%20Digital;Cameras%20-%20Digital%20SLR&ProductID=9852567&ProductTab=3

Samsung NX10 with 18-55mm Lens PM Vistek and Futureshop - $501.95
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/samsung-samsung-14-6mp-interchangeable-lens-camera-with-18-55mm-ois-lens-nx10-nx10-black/10144863.aspx?path=6d1553e5438f83ecec11b3e0e84736a 3en02

http://www.vistek.ca/store/DigitalSLRs/250081/samsung-nx10-black-w-1855mm-ois-lens.aspx

[D2K8]

Thanks! Im on the lookout for a beginners SLR, maybe a canon rebel XS.
I will check back here...hopefully prices will get lower near to boxing day.


Apparently there are still some Rebel XS IS available for $348 but you have hunt for it. I picked one up and I love it so far.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/wm-348-canon-rebel-xs-kit-971249/

[Duuuuude]

Epic camera thread!! :)

I don't know if I like this format either because I then have only 1 place to look at other cameras that I want, even though I purchased the Vistek T2i 2 lens kit doorcrasher deal a few weeks back. I've got to stop looking at other deals since I am happy with my T2i. :)

Haha, kidding. Very good info here. Wetsnot, do you have a new camera or are you always shopping for something new?

[Pastelle]

Panasonic doesn't make DSLRs. Neither is that Samsung you posted.

[dirkpitt]

Excellent timing for a DSLR thread!! I'll be keeping tabs on this, and submitting my own findings if I find anything that surpasses what you've already got. Thanks, OP!

[wetsnot]

Panasonic doesn't make DSLRs. Neither is that Samsung you posted.

the interchangeable lens cameras are close enough in price and target demographic to entry level DSLR.

[BDeals]

the interchangeable lens cameras are close enough in price and target demographic to entry level DSLR.

+1. specially for a newcomer, micro thirds camera is a good option.

[maxpowers]

http://www.henrys.ca/58942-CANON-REBEL-T2I-W-18-55IS-55-250IS.aspx

CANON REBEL T2I W/18-55IS / 55-250IS - $979.99 (minus $20 when you checkout with paypal)

Went up by $30. It was $950 last week when I ordered, minus $20 for using paypal which will be credited end of this month. Received it today with the bag/4gbsd/hdmi cable.

[sonic]

Apparently there are still some Rebel XS IS available for $348 but you have hunt for it. I picked one up and I love it so far.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/wm-348-canon-rebel-xs-kit-971249/

I looked...none in hamilton (that i know of) :(

[dorkus99]

Vistek Deal of the day
Canon 60D with 15-85IS for $1449, free ship
Not a bad deal, if you are looking for this package
http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

[salabanzi]

Thanks for the thread.. I'm looking for a entry level dslr as well (also looking for Canon Rebel XS).

[skyone]

when trying to order the FL-36r flash at OfficeDepot.ca you get insufficient stock. anywhere else to find this, or another flash for Olympus?

[wetsnot]

when trying to order the FL-36r flash at OfficeDepot.ca you get insufficient stock. anywhere else to find this, or another flash for Olympus?

Yep it shows OOS after adding to cart.
I haven't seen any good deals for olympus flashes other than that one.

What camera are you using?

[wetsnot]

Vistek Deal of the day
Canon 60D with 15-85IS for $1449, free ship
Not a bad deal, if you are looking for this package
http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

i'd be surprised if that didn't sell out.

[aegean]

Great thread:), only change is I would add Sony A55 if possible.

[skyone]

Yep it shows OOS after adding to cart.
I haven't seen any good deals for olympus flashes other than that one.

What camera are you using?

e-520

[wetsnot]

e-520

You can try a Metz flash. They are generally cheaper than the Olympus FL models.

Metz 44 - $199.95
http://www.vistek.ca/store/CameraMountedFlash/253321/metz-44af1-digital-flash-for-four-thirds-olympus-panasonic.aspx



Metz 48 - $269.99
http://www1.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?item_id=032839

[pepperMonkey]

Amazon.ca has the E-PL1 for $399
http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0035LBRJO/photoprice1-20
Aden, and others are close behind ($419 at Aden).

If you include B&H (now that they offer cheap shipping to Canada) there are tons of deals like the Panasonic GF1 w/20mm 1.7 lens for $599.

[wossamattayou]

I've got a budget for my daughter (photo newbie) of about $650. What is the best value at this price point on current deals? I've read the threads on the Canon T1i but I haven't seen much on other brands like Nikon, Olympus or Sony. Any thoughts? (Thanks in advance)

[wetsnot]

Amazon.ca has the E-PL1 for $399
http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0035LBRJO/photoprice1-20
Aden, and others are close behind ($419 at Aden).

If you include B&H (now that they offer cheap shipping to Canada) there are tons of deals like the Panasonic GF1 w/20mm 1.7 lens for $599.

thanks for the Amazon link.

I'm gonna try to keep it within Canadian retailers. B&H and Adorama will generally have better pricing. But then there is the issue with cross border warranties.

[l69norm]

Wal-Mart deal on the Sony a230 for $299?

[wetsnot]

I've got a budget for my daughter (photo newbie) of about $650. What is the best value at this price point on current deals? I've read the threads on the Canon T1i but I haven't seen much on other brands like Nikon, Olympus or Sony. Any thoughts? (Thanks in advance)

Nikon entry level products are usually very good. Lots of bells and whistles.

The Sony A390 with 18-55mm lens will clock in around $450.

You can score a Nikon D3100 with 18-55mm lens for $629.99 from Futureshop and Bestbuy.

Also look at the interchangeable lens cameras and micro four thirds camera from olympus and panasonic.

Olympus E-PL1 w 18-55mm which was just posted by peppermonkey for $399.99 is a good deal.

As is the Sony NEX5 (no flash though)
-with 16mm lens is $630 at The Camera Store

The Sony NEX3 which is the same as the NEX5 but doesn't have the magnesium alloy body is about $550 with 18-55mm lens and about $500 with 16mm lens.

There's also the Samsung NX100 and the NX10 which will cost $500-550 with standard lens kit.

[pepperMonkey]

thanks for the Amazon link.

I'm gonna try to keep it within Canadian retailers. B&H and Adorama will generally have better pricing. But then there is the issue with cross border warranties.

Not sure about Panasonic but Olympus has a world wide warranty so this will not cause a problem.
http://www.photoprice.ca/article/warranty-us-canada-grey-market
In general from the above it seems relatively safe to buy from the US for the most part though some manufacturers have extended warranties for the host countries.

[cookiemunster]

Any great deals for Pentax?

[wossamattayou]

Thanks Wetsnot!

Is there a camera review site you'd recommend? You've given me a lot to try to digest, but I gather you feel the Nikon D3100 is a little better than the Canon T1i?

[wossamattayou]

The Canon T1i is now on at Staples for $598.99 so with the $20 off coupons it is in the same range as BestBuy, and I have another $15 coupon as well. Tempted...., but I think I should still do a little more homework.

[Morphius]

I managed to bring the Canon T1i down to $548.99 with two coupons at that price. Personally that's the lowest I've seen, the D3100 was a close choice for me, but the lack of auto focus motor in the body was the turning point. I didn't want to have to shell out extra cash for the AF-S lenses.

[pepperMonkey]

Any great deals for Pentax?

Pentax K-R is at Henrys for $650 (body only) which I believe is the cheapest you can find from all the big stores US included.
They also have the K-R with kit lens for $699 (all colours).
http://www.henrys.ca/62698-PENTAX-K-R-D-SLR-W-18-55MM-DA-L-WHITE.aspx
You can get their older model (K-x) for about $150 cheaper.

[Tag0]

nice thread wetsnot.

I'm personally waiting for the price of either a D90 or a T2i with kit lens to come down. Hopefully during boxing day they will go down in price further.

I strongly doubt any of the newer models like D7k,a55, or maybe 60D will go down in price... but somewhere in my heart i'm praying for a price error. :twisted:

[pepperMonkey]

I've got a budget for my daughter (photo newbie) of about $650. What is the best value at this price point on current deals? I've read the threads on the Canon T1i but I haven't seen much on other brands like Nikon, Olympus or Sony. Any thoughts? (Thanks in advance)

Adding to what Wetsnot has already mentioned I would also recommend the Pentax K-R, although it's about $50 above your budget. In general it's one of the best bang for the buck imo. Video is about the only area where it falls short on, otherwise it compares well with the mid-entry level cameras (T2i, D5000 etc.) if not better (debatable) for a cheaper price. The Pentax K-x is also a wonderful camera for dirt cheap but it's their entry level camera and it's about a years old (some would consider the K-r as the replacement).

[pepperMonkey]

nice thread wetsnot.

I'm personally waiting for the price of either a D90 or a T2i with kit lens to come down. Hopefully during boxing day they will go down in price further.

I strongly doubt any of the newer models like D7k,a55, or maybe 60D will go down in price... but somewhere in my heart i'm praying for a price error. :twisted:

Why wait? The D90 body only is already $680 or $785 with kit lens at Downtown Camera. How much more cheaper are you waiting for?
Personally if I was to get the D90 I would get the D90 with AF-S Nikkor DX 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR for $950 (Downtown Camera) which is an excellent package imo.

[screen]

I've got a budget for my daughter (photo newbie) of about $650. What is the best value at this price point on current deals? I've read the threads on the Canon T1i but I haven't seen much on other brands like Nikon, Olympus or Sony. Any thoughts? (Thanks in advance)

I just bought a Nikon d3100 from FS. I love it...i paid 580.ish (customer appr. sale) but I think its on sale for 625 anyways.
Takes great pictures and very easy to use. (im a newbie too)

[canuckkat]

Why wait? The D90 body only is already $680 or $785 with kit lens at Downtown Camera. How much more cheaper are you waiting for?
Personally if I was to get the D90 I would get the D90 with AF-S Nikkor DX 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR for $950 (Downtown Camera) which is an excellent package imo.

I'm waiting also, to see if the T2i kit goes down to $700 on boxing day. Otherwise I'd pick up a D90 kit.

[screen]

I've got a budget for my daughter (photo newbie) of about $650. What is the best value at this price point on current deals? I've read the threads on the Canon T1i but I haven't seen much on other brands like Nikon, Olympus or Sony. Any thoughts? (Thanks in advance)

I just bought a Nikon d3100 from FS. I love it...i paid 580.ish (customer appr. sale) but I think its on sale for 625 anyways.
Takes great pictures and very easy to use. (im a newbie too)

[wetsnot]

Thanks Wetsnot!

Is there a camera review site you'd recommend? You've given me a lot to try to digest, but I gather you feel the Nikon D3100 is a little better than the Canon T1i?

you can check www.dpreview.com

and www.steves-digicams.com


Nikon is good with entry level cameras.
The thing with Canon is that they don't really make entry level, they'll make a mid-level and when it gets older they lower the price closer to what an entry level camera should be.
For example: the rebel xs.

I do like the build quality of canon though. Very well built.

[wetsnot]

Not sure about Panasonic but Olympus has a world wide warranty so this will not cause a problem.
http://www.photoprice.ca/article/warranty-us-canada-grey-market
In general from the above it seems relatively safe to buy from the US for the most part though some manufacturers have extended warranties for the host countries.

I hear Canon is good with cross border warranty.
But definitely not Nikon.

[salabanzi]

you can check www.dpreview.com

and www.steves-digicams.com


Nikon is good with entry level cameras.
The thing with Canon is that they don't really make entry level, they'll make a mid-level and when it gets older they lower the price closer to what an entry level camera should be.
For example: the rebel xs.

I do like the build quality of canon though. Very well built.

Would you recommend rebel XS? I'm a photo newbie and on a tight budget. I asked around and got recommendations to save up for a t2i or d3100. I have my eye on http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=760010&affixedcode=WW which is a rebel XS w/ non-IS lens for 400. I can knock it down to 380ish with staples coupons. What do you think?

[spiralspirit]

I would not get the non-IS canon 18-55. It is not the same lens as the IS and performs much worse. Don't get that lens. Its not worth it.

[baboo]

you can check www.dpreview.com

and www.steves-digicams.com


Nikon is good with entry level cameras.
The thing with Canon is that they don't really make entry level, they'll make a mid-level and when it gets older they lower the price closer to what an entry level camera should be.
For example: the rebel xs.

I do like the build quality of canon though. Very well built.

Just want to add that http://www.kenrockwell.com/ is a pretty good review site too. Although the guy shoots more with Nikon, but he does review on both Canon and Nikon.

[joker32]

nice of you to gather up the dslr deals... i'm looking for D3100 myself, hope it can get to around 550 or seomting close.. slim chance thou

[wetsnot]

nice of you to gather up the dslr deals... i'm looking for D3100 myself, hope it can get to around 550 or seomting close.. slim chance thou

the D3100 body can be had for $550. so i assume you mean the D3100 with the 18-55mm kit

[JTsang]

Would you recommend rebel XS? I'm a photo newbie and on a tight budget. I asked around and got recommendations to save up for a t2i or d3100. I have my eye on http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=760010&affixedcode=WW which is a rebel XS w/ non-IS lens for 400. I can knock it down to 380ish with staples coupons. What do you think?


I would not get the non-IS canon 18-55. It is not the same lens as the IS and performs much worse. Don't get that lens. Its not worth it.

I actually got that model (Rebel XS) with the non-IS lens at Staples last time there was a $75 off of $250 coupon (which i stacked with a $20 off of $150).

I agree with spiralspirit, the non-IS lens is pretty crappy. I've played around with the IS version since my friend has a T2i and it's much better than what I have

That said, the kit lens isn't going to provide excellent quality either way, but unless you can get the Rebel at like $349 or less I wouldn't bother with the non-IS model. I don't know how other entry-level DSLRs fare against the Rebel, but there's been deals for Sony DSLRs for $299 and $349 popping up in the last month or 2 so there will probably be more to come.

[pepperMonkey]

Would you recommend rebel XS? I'm a photo newbie and on a tight budget. I asked around and got recommendations to save up for a t2i or d3100. I have my eye on http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=760010&affixedcode=WW which is a rebel XS w/ non-IS lens for 400. I can knock it down to 380ish with staples coupons. What do you think?

If your budget is about $400 then I would recommend the Olympus E-PL1 from Amazon.ca. Great small camera and arguably has the best jpg engine of all cameras. Falls a little short on video compared to the t2i, all Panasonic's (minus the G1) and like other m43 cameras falls short a stop or two against the new cameras in the noise area but has in body IS. Definitely would get this over the XS or most any older entry level cameras in that price range.

[wetsnot]

Would you recommend rebel XS? I'm a photo newbie and on a tight budget. I asked around and got recommendations to save up for a t2i or d3100. I have my eye on http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=760010&affixedcode=WW which is a rebel XS w/ non-IS lens for 400. I can knock it down to 380ish with staples coupons. What do you think?

I would recommend micro four thirds if you're on a super tight budget. The Rebel XS is discontinued so it's pretty old. I don't think it's worth $400.

I have a Panasonic Lumix DMC-G1 and it's great.

[LonesomeDove]

The only thing holding me back from buying a DSLR is the deals on Boxing Day.

I am seriously interested in the Nikon D3100. True, lenses will be more expensive for this camera but not if they are bundled together like the 200 mm lens at London Drugs.

[wetsnot]

If your budget is about $400 then I would recommend the Olympus E-PL1 from Amazon.ca. Great small camera and arguably has the best jpg engine of all cameras. Falls a little short on video compared to the t2i, all Panasonic's (minus the G1) and like other m43 cameras falls short a stop or two against the new cameras in the noise area but has in body IS. Definitely would get this over the XS or most any older entry level cameras in that price range.

I've played with the E-PL1. It's a nice camera.
However I find the Panasonic micro four thirds to be far quicker in terms of autofocus. The Panasonic 20mm pancakes lens also destroys the Olympus 17mm pancake lens.

But the Olympus m43's look sweet and I like how the IS is in the body and not the lens (Panasonic does this, boo-urns).

[pepperMonkey]

Thanks Wetsnot!

Is there a camera review site you'd recommend?


I'll also add http://www.imaging-resource.com

Also, not a review site but if you want to hear what a pro things, this one is pretty good http://www.luminous-landscape.com/index.shtml Canadian too :) Doesn't go into techno-mumbo-jumbo, just honest thoughts about various photography gear, technique etc.

[wetsnot]

The only thing holding me back from buying a DSLR is the deals on Boxing Day.

I am seriously interested in the Nikon D3100. True, lenses will be more expensive for this camera but not if they are bundled together like the 200 mm lens at London Drugs.

Assuming that you don't go pro, there are some very good D-mount lenses to be had at very good prices.

The Nikon 35mm AF-S f1.8 DX is a great example.

Bokeh ftw!

[wetsnot]

I'll also add http://www.imaging-resource.com

Also, not a review site but if you want to hear what a pro things, this one is pretty good http://www.luminous-landscape.com/index.shtml Canadian too :) Doesn't go into techno-mumbo-jumbo, just honest thoughts about various photography gear, technique etc.

always beware of the gear snob when reading a pro's reviews.

if there's one thing i hate it's seeing this:

Why get a d3100 when for an extra $200 you can get a d90 and for another $300 you can get a d7000 but why stop there? D700 is right around the corner...

Boom...next thing you know you bought a Ferrari instead of a camera...


Especially for lenses...notorious for that...

[pepperMonkey]

I've played with the E-PL1. It's a nice camera.
However I find the Panasonic micro four thirds to be far quicker in terms of autofocus. The Panasonic 20mm pancakes lens also destroys the Olympus 17mm pancake lens.

But the Olympus m43's look sweet and I like how the IS is in the body and not the lens (Panasonic does this, boo-urns).

Lol, true. I love my GF1 but admittedly the E-PL1 is dirt cheap even though the GF1 has gone down in price. Mind you, the E-PL1 with new firmware is only slightly slower than the GF1 in AF but with the Olympus kit lens (17mm, 14-42mm), AF is slow no matter what camera is behind it. Generally speaking I don't mind too much that Panasonic cameras have in lens IS. Most Panasonic lenses have IS and those that don't are usually fast enough that I don't mind. And I would pick Panasonic lenses over Olympus lenses for the most part. The only Olympus lens I wouldn't mind getting my hands on is the 9-18mm for which I wouldn't need IS. And I would only want this because the Panasonic 7-14mm is really expensive.

[pepperMonkey]

always beware of the gear snob when reading a pro's reviews.

if there's one thing i hate it's seeing this:

Why get a d3100 when for an extra $200 you can get a d90 and for another $300 you can get a d7000 but why stop there? D700 is right around the corner...

Boom...next thing you know you bought a Ferrari instead of a camera...


Especially for lenses...notorious for that...

Of course :) But I do find the guys at luminous landscape to be pretty level headed. They use/reviews really expensive stuff (Leica's, medium formats, etc.) but they do also like the cheap stuff like the GF1, GF2's etc. And what they don't like is generally not because a more expensive camera can do something better but usually in line with whatever price bracket a camera is in. But just like any review site, pro or not, you do need to read them with a grain of salt. I don't agree with everything the guys at Luminous Landscape says but even if I don't agree, I understand where they are coming from so their thoughts are generally informative.

[wetsnot]

Lol, true. I love my GF1 but admittedly the E-PL1 is dirt cheap even though the GF1 has gone down in price. Mind you, the E-PL1 with new firmware is only slightly slower than the GF1 in AF but with the Olympus kit lens (17mm, 14-42mm), AF is slow no matter what camera is behind it. Generally speaking I don't mind too much that Panasonic cameras have in lens IS. Most Panasonic lenses have IS and those that don't are usually fast enough that I don't mind. And I would pick Panasonic lenses over Olympus lenses for the most part. The only Olympus lens I wouldn't mind getting my hands on is the 9-18mm for which I wouldn't need IS. And I would only want this because the Panasonic 7-14mm is really expensive.

The GF2 has been announced, hence the drops in price for GF1. I'm not too pleased with the changes but meh what can you do...

$400 for the olympus with 14-42mm is a solid price. You might see some of the predator camera retailers dropping price to match it...

[puneet]

Thanks for this!

Not that I needed it, I couldn't resist a SONY 390 for $99.97 at BB.
And where was that ? Even I wont mind an open box body as a back up .................and for that price all over it.
Million $ question............when, where and who was that great superman(visor) ?

[jande9]

If you are looking for a entry level Pentax slr, McBain camera has the K-M here. (http://www.mcbaincamera.com/productdetail.php?mcbain_id=0270576) It's a slightly older model but still 10mp with shake reduction and marked down to $399.

We have bought several cameras from them and they are good for service.

My daughter has a Pentax slr while I have the Canon, and I find the picture quality comparable. In fact I actually prefer shooting the Pentax because it is a bit smaller and more intuitive, but that is simply a personal preference.

The big advantage with the Pentax is the lenses. The kit lens is a lot better than the Canon's, which is just crap with a cheap plastic mount.

The Pentax can accept almost every lens that they ever made, while Canon will not. It is really hard to find Canon or Nikon prime lenses because of the demand but it is still possible to get Pentax prime lenses very reasonably. I got a Pentax ME with a Pentax 28 and a 50 1.7 for a total of $80. last year off craigslist.

Pentax kind of stumbled out of the gate with their first slr's (unpronouncable name, poor jpeg engine) but they are good now and worth a look.

[pepperMonkey]

And where was that ? Even I wont mind an open box body as a back up .................and for that price all over it.
Million $ question............when, where and who was that great superman(visor) ?

Oh wow, $100 for a A390? I have never thought about getting a Sony DSLR and don't even like the A390 but for that kinda price? Damn...you really can't complain...

[andreid]

Open Box! ...but with the power supply bloc missing (found one $11 shipped at Amazon.ca, will return the universal one). I was zooming on a E-P1 w/o lens for $200 but those bloody buggers could't find it which I doubt. If OB doesn't matter for you (and it shoudn't because you have 15 days to return it if defective), check out January when FS have all those BD returns on the tables. It can be a treasure trove of deals. Cheers



And where was that ? Even I wont mind an open box body as a back up .................and for that price all over it.
Million $ question............when, where and who was that great superman(visor) ?

[pepperMonkey]

If you are looking for a entry level Pentax slr, McBain camera has the K-M here. (http://www.mcbaincamera.com/productdetail.php?mcbain_id=0270576) It's a slightly older model but still 10mp with shake reduction and marked down to $399.

We have bought several cameras from them and they are good for service.

My daughter has a Pentax slr while I have the Canon, and I find the picture quality comparable. In fact I actually prefer shooting the Pentax because it is a bit smaller and more intuitive, but that is simply a personal preference.

The big advantage with the Pentax is the lenses. The kit lens is a lot better than the Canon's, which is just crap with a cheap plastic mount.

The Pentax can accept almost every lens that they ever made, while Canon will not. It is really hard to find Canon or Nikon prime lenses because of the demand but it is still possible to get Pentax prime lenses very reasonably. I got a Pentax ME with a Pentax 28 and a 50 1.7 for a total of $80. last year off craigslist.

Pentax kind of stumbled out of the gate with their first slr's (unpronouncable name, poor jpeg engine) but they are good now and worth a look.

I'll have to concur on this. The K-m, although somewhat sparse on features like all entry-level DSLR's is a nice camera.
Just to expand on what Jande9 has already mentioned, all Pentax DSLR's can use without adapters of any kind, all lenses made for Pentax since 1975 when they came out with the K-mount lens design. Before that they were using an M42 screwmount lens design. The M42 lenses can be used on current Pentax DSLR's by getting a tiny metal ring adapter and those are good to go as well. Of course auto focus and such came into being a fair bit afterward so manual focus etc. for those. So that expands their library till around 1940? Well, a really vast number of lenses in any case. Using my M42 Pentax Super-Takumar 50mm F1.8 and M42 Jupiter 135mm F3.5 to great affect. Love those lenses (though use it mainly on my Panasonic GF1).

[andreid]

It's a surprise that there are still some enthusiastic PENTAX users! Right on but where that 18-105 or 18-135mm lens?


If you are looking for a entry level Pentax slr, McBain camera has the K-M here. (http://www.mcbaincamera.com/productdetail.php?mcbain_id=0270576) It's a slightly older model but still 10mp with shake reduction and marked down to $399. ...

Pentax kind of stumbled out of the gate with their first slr's (unpronouncable name, poor jpeg engine) but they are good now and worth a look.

[Tyrant]

It's a surprise that there are still some enthusiastic PENTAX users! Right on but where that 18-105 or 18-135mm lens?

Pentax just released a weather resistant 18-135mm lens: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/740381-USA/Pentax_21977_SMC_DA_18_135mm_F_3_5_5_6.html

I'm pretty sure they have a standard one as well.

Also, I'm surprised the K-r isn't getting more hype. It's one of THE best entry level DSLRs you can buy from an image quality perspective. You also get a two year warranty if purchased from an authorized Canadian Pentax dealer.

[WhatADeal!]

Sounds like this should belong more to the Shopping Discussion forum, as none of the prices mentioned so far are really Hot Deals.

[pepperMonkey]

Pentax just released a weather resistant 18-135mm lens: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/740381-USA/Pentax_21977_SMC_DA_18_135mm_F_3_5_5_6.html

I'm pretty sure they have a standard one as well.

Also, I'm surprised the K-r isn't getting more hype. It's one of THE best entry level DSLRs you can buy from an image quality perspective. You also get a two year warranty if purchased from an authorized Canadian Pentax dealer.

It is but it isn't exactly hot in price right now as far as I can tell.

[pepperMonkey]

Sounds like this should belong more to the Shopping Discussion forum, as none of the prices mentioned so far are really Hot Deals.

Err...none is rather a large brush to paint. The E-PL1 for $399 is an absolute steal! The kit 14-42mm lens itself goes for about $350 in Canada so to be able to get the set for $400? Last I checked $50 for a brand new m43 leans a tad into the Hot Deals category no?

Edit: hmm..well it was a hot deal. Amazon.ca raised their prices to $550.
Edit2: Oh, and the lens is about $250.

[tomkuang]

I'm looking for an entry level one as well. Here are few things I found:

Canon XS IS Kit for $400
Sony A390 Kit for $480
Sony A33 Kit for $600
Sony NEX-5 for $600

Are those even warm deals?

[pepperMonkey]

Just to update, Olympus E-PL1 is on sale for $419 till the 15th at Aden.
http://www.adencamera.com/prod-overview.asp?ProdID=3189
Or Vistek for $450 (no end date given)
http://www.vistek.ca/store/CameraLenses/248586/a.aspx

[puneet]

Open Box! ...but with the power supply bloc missing (found one $11 shipped at Amazon.ca, will return the universal one). I was zooming on a E-P1 w/o lens for $200 but those bloody buggers could't find it which I doubt. If OB doesn't matter for you (and it shoudn't because you have 15 days to return it if defective), check out January when FS have all those BD returns on the tables. It can be a treasure trove of deals. Cheers

I know I am being unrealistic but seeing a390 for $99...............wishing I could get a prosumer model a55/33/550 for a cheap cheap price may be like $200 ( I know I know I know it a wishful thinking). But no harm in trying or day dreaming:facepalm:

[YoungRizal]

Looking for GF1 deals

[zz1988]

anyone rememeber was there a big price-drop in boxing day last year?

[12345678~~]

Do you guys think that 60D with the 15-85mm USM lens was a good deal? I know the 15-85 mm is one of the best all purpose lens out there, but is it cheaper to get the 60D body with the 15-85 mm or get it as a package during this time of the month?

[wetsnot]

Do you guys think that 60D with the 15-85mm USM lens was a good deal? I know the 15-85 mm is one of the best all purpose lens out there, but is it cheaper to get the 60D body with the 15-85 mm or get it as a package during this time of the month?

It was $200 below the lowest price.
Bundle is way cheaper.

[nuknsltnt]

Where is the best place to get Canon 50mm F/1.8 lens and Class 10 SDHC cards?

Thanks in advance.

[djredhat]

any Boxing day DSLR rumors? Hoping for sub $500 on D3100 :cheesygri

[RunOrDie]

Same here...I need Boxing Day rumors :P

Im interested in the Nikon D7000!!!

[dorkus99]

Where is the best place to get Canon 50mm F/1.8 lens and Class 10 SDHC cards?

Thanks in advance.

The 50mm f1.8 rarely goes on sale, but every now and then FS/BB do put it on sale for around $99 (happend about 2 months ago at FS). I would guess it will probably go down to $99 on boxing day.
I would just look for a used one. There's usualy a few floating around on used sites. Even used they go for around 90-100$.

[ggweci]

Looking for GF1 deals

Lowest price is $599 USD, but no mfg warranty.

In Canada, best options are:


Aden Camera - $699.99 including an extended warranty
The Camera Store - $693.36

Check out Photoprice for latest pricing:

http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03006/Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-GF1-with-Micro-20mm-Kit-price.html

[mavvee]

Do you guys think that 60D with the 15-85mm USM lens was a good deal? I know the 15-85 mm is one of the best all purpose lens out there, but is it cheaper to get the 60D body with the 15-85 mm or get it as a package during this time of the month?

15-85mm is one of the best all purpose lens out there? how does it compare to the 24-70/2.8?

[wetsnot]

15-85mm is one of the best all purpose lens out there? how does it compare to the 24-70/2.8?

no comparison.

24-70mm f2.8 is a professional level lens.

[nuknsltnt]

The 50mm f1.8 rarely goes on sale, but every now and then FS/BB do put it on sale for around $99 (happend about 2 months ago at FS). I would guess it will probably go down to $99 on boxing day.
I would just look for a used one. There's usualy a few floating around on used sites. Even used they go for around 90-100$.

Thanks dorkus99! It is just that my lens is stuck in US and I will probably need to get another one in its place.

[skyone]

You can try a Metz flash. They are generally cheaper than the Olympus FL models.

Metz 44 - $199.95
http://www.vistek.ca/store/CameraMountedFlash/253321/metz-44af1-digital-flash-for-four-thirds-olympus-panasonic.aspx



Metz 48 - $269.99
http://www1.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?item_id=032839

Thank you wetsnot!
B&H has the Metz 48 at $225 and the FL-36R @ $194. Which one you think is better? I've read some reviews and I'm more inclined to go with the Metz.

[nuknsltnt]

In addition to what wetsnot has mentioned, the 15-85mm lens is for EF-S cameras (cropped frame) whereas the 24-70mm is for the FF (full-frame camera).

I was exactly in your position and decided that I preferred a EF lens over EF-S lens. Was going for the 24-105mm f/4L IS USM lens, when at the lat minute on someone's advice I split that between 17-40mm f/4L USM and 70-200mm f/4L IS USM lens.

Typically, one replaces the body and very rarely the lens, therefore better to spend money on the lens. That is what I did. However, it all depends on what your budget is and what you aim to do with it. Horses for courses and all that....

For those getting into the DSLR world, this is a damn expensive hobby. Majority of good lenses are more expensive than the camera body. To protect the lens you need to spend additionally on hood and filter. If, however, you buy "L" level lenses (Professional series) then you get the hood with it. To seal it from dust particles a UV filter is a good idea. B&W is a German manufacturer of lens filters, their UV filters range from $60-$100 approx depending on the size. So for somebody new the list would go something like this:

Camera Body
Kit lens
Bag
Memory cards
Additional lens - optional
Hood - optional
Filter - optional
Lens cover - optional
Cleaning cloth - optional
Tripod - optional
Ball head - optional (this is where the camera sits on the Tripod)
Spare battery - optional
Tripod case - optional

At the end of the purchase your CC is on IV!

Again like I mentioned above, I made my purchase based on certain assumptions and reasons. If one is going to be using the camera occasionally the 15mm-85mm EF-S is an outstanding lens. However, remember that on a cropped sensor camera (1.6 like a Canon 60-D), it will be 24-136mm lens, i.e., 15*1.6 = 24 & 85*1.6=136.

All the best with the purchase!

[wetsnot]

Thank you wetsnot!
B&H has the Metz 48 at $225 and the FL-36R @ $194. Which one you think is better? I've read some reviews and I'm more inclined to go with the Metz.

Metz 48 has more power.

[D2K8]

I'm looking for an entry level one as well. Here are few things I found:

Canon XS IS Kit for $400
Sony A390 Kit for $480
Sony A33 Kit for $600
Sony NEX-5 for $600

Are those even warm deals?

Where is the Canon XS IS Kit going for $400?

[JTsang]

Where is the Canon XS IS Kit going for $400?

Not sure if it's what tomkuang is referring to, but you can get it for 400-ish from Dell.ca after you apply the 15% coupon from the other thread (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/dell-ca-10-off-systems-15-off-electronics-accessories-good-through-feb-11-a-977667).

[5abi]

Where is the Canon XS IS Kit going for $400?

$348 at walmart. there is a thread about it. i bought 2

[cookiemunster]

If you are looking for a entry level Pentax slr, McBain camera has the K-M here. (http://www.mcbaincamera.com/productdetail.php?mcbain_id=0270576) It's a slightly older model but still 10mp with shake reduction and marked down to $399.

We have bought several cameras from them and they are good for service.

My daughter has a Pentax slr while I have the Canon, and I find the picture quality comparable. In fact I actually prefer shooting the Pentax because it is a bit smaller and more intuitive, but that is simply a personal preference.

The big advantage with the Pentax is the lenses. The kit lens is a lot better than the Canon's, which is just crap with a cheap plastic mount.

The Pentax can accept almost every lens that they ever made, while Canon will not. It is really hard to find Canon or Nikon prime lenses because of the demand but it is still possible to get Pentax prime lenses very reasonably. I got a Pentax ME with a Pentax 28 and a 50 1.7 for a total of $80. last year off craigslist.

Pentax kind of stumbled out of the gate with their first slr's (unpronouncable name, poor jpeg engine) but they are good now and worth a look.

Hubby has the K10D and loves it. Now he wants to upgrade from that... it would be awesome to find an amazing deal and surprise him. Or a new lens, you can never get too much good quality glass according to him :lol: Plus since they are fully compatible, he considers them an investment :confused::facepalm:

[tomkuang]

Not sure if it's what tomkuang is referring to, but you can get it for 400-ish from Dell.ca after you apply the 15% coupon from the other thread (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/dell-ca-10-off-systems-15-off-electronics-accessories-good-through-feb-11-a-977667).

Yes. That's that. Walmart has it for $350. But really hard to find.

[sonic]

yes. That's that. Walmart has it for $350. But really hard to find.

really, REALLY hard to find....:(

[salabanzi]

really, REALLY hard to find....:(

Yea, went to a couple walmarts asking for 350$ rebel xs and they didn't have it.. Our best bet now is just waiting for boxing days and hope they have good deals on.

[P@man]

Where is the best place to get Canon 50mm F/1.8 lens and Class 10 SDHC cards?

Thanks in advance.

You can find dirt cheap class 10 cards at computer stores but they are usually ADATA or Patriot ones. Patriot is actually quite a reliable manufacturer in everything but some Canon T2i owners have had problems with their SD cards for some reason.

Your best bet would be a Transcend 8gb Class 10 at Newegg for 12 bucks. Not sure how cheap shipping is though. Or wait till they have a free shipping deal or find a computer store in Toronto that sells it. Anitech in Vancouver does.

My class 6 Transcend has been invincible but it also managed to clock a higher user rating then the class 10 for some reason so maybe they all suck now except for Sandisk. But Transcend was rock solid when I bought my class 6.

[pepperMonkey]

Hubby has the K10D and loves it. Now he wants to upgrade from that... it would be awesome to find an amazing deal and surprise him. Or a new lens, you can never get too much good quality glass according to him :lol: Plus since they are fully compatible, he considers them an investment :confused::facepalm:

Well, unless you know what lenses he 1) wants 2) needs, it may be easier getting a new body. As for upgrades the choices are fairly simple as Pentax has only a very limited number of bodies (done very well fortunately).
The choices are the year old K-7 or the new K-5 (or a K20D but that is fairly old).
Best price that I know of for the K-7 is $999 at Henrys
http://www.henrys.ca/23876-PENTAX-K-7-DSLR-BODY.aspx

Best price that I know of for the K-5 is $1498 at The Camera Store in Alberta. Vistek has it for $50 more and Henrys about $100 more.
http://www.thecamerastore.com/products/cameras/digital-cameras/digital-slr-cameras/pentax-k-5-body

If you can afford it, get the K-5 as it's a big enough upgrade over the K-7 to be worth it. If you can't afford the K-5, the K-7 is a really well made camera so I wouldn't worry too much about it. If you can't afford neither (my wife wants one and we are in this category right now ;)), get a lens. Though since he has the K10D, any lenses he may want is probably fairly pricey as-is ;).
Now if he isn't using all the capabilities of the K10D (i.e. he doesn't need all that bells and whistles) then getting a K-r isn't a bad idea either for about $650 as it is a decent camera.
http://www.henrys.ca/62019-PENTAX-K-R-D-SLR-BODY-ONLY-BLACK.aspx
but it isn't in the same category as the K10D. K-r is more like an upgrade to the K200D model but it will definitely take better photos then the K10D. It's just not weather sealed (I think), optical viewfinder is inferior, and other bells and whistles is lacking/missing.

Good luck.

[jake123]

Well, unless you know what lenses he 1) wants 2) needs, it may be easier getting a new body. As for upgrades the choices are fairly simple as Pentax has only a very limited number of bodies (done very well fortunately).
The choices are the year old K-7 or the new K-5 (or a K20D but that is fairly old).
Best price that I know of for the K-7 is $999 at Henrys
http://www.henrys.ca/23876-PENTAX-K-7-DSLR-BODY.aspx

Best price that I know of for the K-5 is $1498 at The Camera Store in Alberta. Vistek has it for $50 more and Henrys about $100 more.
http://www.thecamerastore.com/products/cameras/digital-cameras/digital-slr-cameras/pentax-k-5-body

If you can afford it, get the K-5 as it's a big enough upgrade over the K-7 to be worth it. If you can't afford the K-5, the K-7 is a really well made camera so I wouldn't worry too much about it. If you can't afford neither (my wife wants one and we are in this category right now ;)), get a lens. Though since he has the K10D, any lenses he may want is probably fairly pricey as-is ;).
Now if he isn't using all the capabilities of the K10D (i.e. he doesn't need all that bells and whistles) then getting a K-r isn't a bad idea either for about $650 as it is a decent camera.
http://www.henrys.ca/62019-PENTAX-K-R-D-SLR-BODY-ONLY-BLACK.aspx
but it isn't in the same category as the K10D. K-r is more like an upgrade to the K200D model but it will definitely take better photos then the K10D. It's just not weather sealed (I think), optical viewfinder is inferior, and other bells and whistles is lacking/missing.

Good luck.


prodigital2000 (Carman's Foto Source) usually have the best Pentax prices in Canada: K-7 for $889 USD free shipping
http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-Pentax-K-7-Digital-SLR-Camera-Body-14MP-720p-Video-/130449362585?pt=Digital_Cameras&hash=item1e5f634e99

Or you can find 123easyship. They're the same Carman's Foto Source.

Or you can purchase from B&H in the states; shipping is usually $20< and Pentax has 1 year international warranty.

[Manolo]

$348 at walmart. there is a thread about it. i bought 2

Staples is currently selling it for $398.82 (http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=&webid=760010&affixedcode=WW)

I bought one this week from BestBuy and they priced matched it with staples :) great deal!

[fengraul]

plz add memory express in the thread, they beat the lowest price by 5%:)

[D2K8]

Staples is currently selling it for $398.82 (http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=&webid=760010&affixedcode=WW)

I bought one this week from BestBuy and they priced matched it with staples :) great deal!

The one at WM is the XS IS kit which comes with an IS lens. Staples XS IS Kit is back up to $579.92

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=&webid=860834&affixedcode=WW

[Manolo]

The one at WM is the XS IS kit which comes with an IS lens. Staples XS IS Kit is back up to $579.92

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=&webid=860834&affixedcode=WW

neverless, I still recieved the XS IS KIT from best buy by price matching, must have been lucky!

[D2K8]

neverless, I still recieved the XS IS KIT from best buy by price matching, must have been lucky!

Cool. You were very lucky. Surprised they didn't look at the Canon product #.

[dirkpitt]

Here's a kit that I've been considering:

Nikon D3100 with 18-55mm & 55-300mm VR $949.46 - The Camera Store (http://www.thecamerastore.com/products/cameras/digital-cameras/digital-slr-cameras/nikon-d3100-18-55mm-55-300mm-vr)

300mm zoom for a modest bump up from the Nikon D3100 with 18-55mm and 55-200mm Lens $848.88 - London Drugs (http://www.londondrugs.com/Cultures/en-US/Product+Detail/Cameras.htm?BreadCrumbs=Cameras;Cameras;Cameras%20-%20Digital;Cameras%20-%20Digital%20SLR&ProductID=9817099&ProductTab=3)
(The 200mm kit above is $849.99 at both FS and The Camera Store, not available at Memory Express, BB)

Memory Express has a huge selection of lenses, so I will be breaking down the savings over buying items separately later!)

[wetsnot]

Here's a kit that I've been considering:

Nikon D3100 with 18-55mm & 55-300mm VR $949.46 - The Camera Store (http://www.thecamerastore.com/products/cameras/digital-cameras/digital-slr-cameras/nikon-d3100-18-55mm-55-300mm-vr)

300mm zoom for a modest bump up from the Nikon D3100 with 18-55mm and 55-200mm Lens $848.88 - London Drugs (http://www.londondrugs.com/Cultures/en-US/Product+Detail/Cameras.htm?BreadCrumbs=Cameras;Cameras;Cameras%20-%20Digital;Cameras%20-%20Digital%20SLR&ProductID=9817099&ProductTab=3)
(The 200mm kit above is $849.99 at both FS and The Camera Store, not available at Memory Express, BB)

Memory Express has a huge selection of lenses, so I will be breaking down the savings over buying items separately later!)

so LD bumped up the price $20. still a lower price than most retailers but barely.

[dorkus99]

Vistek Deal of the Day
Canon 430EXII for $259.95 plus tax, plus shipping (free ship only over $500.. boo).
Total after tax and shipping to Ottawa comes to $327.28 (your shipping charges may be different)
Not the greatest deal IMO, but if someone is looking for a fairly nice flash.. there it is.
http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

Edit.. I thought something was wrong with that final total price... I just noticed, when you add to cart the price magically bumps up to $279.95... ummm.. thats just strange!

[wetsnot]

Vistek Deal of the Day
Canon 430EXII for $259.95 plus tax, plus shipping (which is strange because all their other stuff had free ship).
Total after tax and shipping to Ottawa comes to $327.28 (your shipping charges may be different)
Not the greatest deal IMO, but if someone is looking for a fairly nice flash.. there it is.
http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

Edit.. I thought something was wrong with that final total price... I just noticed, when you add to cart the price magically bumps up to $279.95... ummm.. thats just strange!

$10 lower than everyone else.
the check out price is officially correct.

you can do slightly better PMing bestbuy and aden camera ($3 better).

[dorkus99]

$10 lower than everyone else.
the check out price is officially correct.

you can do slightly better PMing bestbuy and aden camera ($3 better).

Checkout has now officially been fixed to show up as $259.95
New total cost with shipping to Ottawa comes to $304.68
Not bad, but as you said PM at BB from Aden to get slightly better.


Addendum..
The email I received from Vistek on informing them of the problem:

Hello ****,
Thank you for bringing this to our attention and it has been fixed now. If you remove the item from your cart and then add it in again you should see the correct price of $259.95.
If you have any questions please let us know.
Thanks again!



On Line Sales
Vistek Ltd.
496 Queen Street East
Toronto, Ontario
M5A 4G8

1-888-365-1777
sales@vistek.ca

I thought they might give me a little somthin somthin for informing them :cry:

[skyone]

Metz 48 has more power.

Thanks wetsnot.
The METZ 48 is 199.95 now at B&H http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/532280-REG/Metz_MZ_48316OP_mecablitz_48_AF_1_TTL.html

[wetsnot]

Thanks wetsnot.
The METZ 48 is 199.95 now at B&H http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/532280-REG/Metz_MZ_48316OP_mecablitz_48_AF_1_TTL.html

The recycle time should also be way faster on the Metz 48 over the FL-36. It uses 4 AA batteries where the FL-36 uses 2.

I find this frustrating sometimes with my FL-36.

[dorkus99]

The recycle time should also be way faster on the Metz 48 over the FL-36. It uses 4 AA batteries where the FL-36 uses 2.

I find this frustrating sometimes with my FL-36.

Ive never tried the Metz flashes.. would you recomend them? Would a 580EXII be able to command a Metz flash in slave mode?

[wetsnot]

Ive never tried the Metz flashes.. would you recomend them? Would a 580EXII be able to command a Metz flash in slave mode?

i've never tested between the 2. other than playing around with it.

but they are some slight difference between the 580exii and the metz 58.

the metz is not weather proofed.
it swivels 120 degrees vs 180 for the 580exii
the metz has a secondary reflector (called the wink light). it acts as a fill while the main one does the bouncing.
the canon version of the metz 58 should be fully compatible with canon wireless systems

i like the metz low battery indicator. although really you should be able to tell by the reduced recycle times.

if you don't have specific needs that the 580exii fills (180 swivel, weather proof etc), then the metz 58 could be a cheaper alternative. it's a good quality flash.

[dorkus99]

i've never tested between the 2. other than playing around with it.

but they are some slight difference between the 580exii and the metz 58.

the metz is not weather proofed.
it swivels 120 degrees vs 180 for the 580exii
the metz has a secondary reflector (called the wink light). it acts as a fill while the main one does the bouncing.
the canon version of the metz 58 should be fully compatible with canon wireless systems

i like the metz low battery indicator. although really you should be able to tell by the reduced recycle times.

if you don't have specific needs that the 580exii fills (180 swivel, weather proof etc), then the metz 58 could be a cheaper alternative. it's a good quality flash.

Thanks
I already have a 580EXII and 420EX, and would be looking for a Metz (or other) as more of a slave off camera flash only. So as long as IR triggering works fine between the two, that would be great, since I dont have pocketwizards ...... yet...

[southnam]

Any suggestion for a cheaper alternative to the canon speedlites for an XSI camera. I'm more of a shoot kids and vacation photographer.

[Vietlord]

Yong Nuo 468, best bang for the buck, got 3 of them xD

[wetsnot]

Any suggestion for a cheaper alternative to the canon speedlites for an XSI camera. I'm more of a shoot kids and vacation photographer.

again i'm gonna say metz makes good flashes at a cheaper price than canon for equivalent GN's.

[sadd]

Is this an okay deal?

Canon Rebel XS non IS kit lens for $378 at Staples (before taxes, after $20 discount)

[LonesomeDove]

Here's a kit that I've been considering:

Nikon D3100 with 18-55mm & 55-300mm VR $949.46 - The Camera Store (http://www.thecamerastore.com/products/cameras/digital-cameras/digital-slr-cameras/nikon-d3100-18-55mm-55-300mm-vr)

300mm zoom for a modest bump up from the Nikon D3100 with 18-55mm and 55-200mm Lens $848.88 - London Drugs (http://www.londondrugs.com/Cultures/en-US/Product+Detail/Cameras.htm?BreadCrumbs=Cameras;Cameras;Cameras%20-%20Digital;Cameras%20-%20Digital%20SLR&ProductID=9817099&ProductTab=3)
(The 200mm kit above is $849.99 at both FS and The Camera Store, not available at Memory Express, BB)

Memory Express has a huge selection of lenses, so I will be breaking down the savings over buying items separately later!)

How come London Drugs bumped it up by $20?

BTW, Best Buy had the kit for $829.99 a couple of weeks ago. It even went as low as $809.99 because there was a weekend online sale where lenses were 10% off.

[zz1988]

bestbuy is selling Sony Alpha A390 14.2MP Digital SLR Camera with 18-55mm Lens Kit for 449.99
around 508$ with tax, is it a good deal for an entry level DSLR?

thank you

[wetsnot]

How come London Drugs bumped it up by $20?



everyone else was hovering near $849.99

[wetsnot]

bestbuy is selling Sony Alpha A390 14.2MP Digital SLR Camera with 18-55mm Lens Kit for 449.99
around 508$ with tax, is it a good deal for an entry level DSLR?

thank you

that's one of the lower prices right now.
Black's is selling at the same price.

is it a good deal? it's been at this price since beginning of November.

[acekiller]

I am looking for Kx deals...

[wetsnot]

I am looking for Kx deals...

Black's is selling for $549.99 with 18-55

Not much of a deal though.

[Scarface74]

Thanks for starting this thread as I am looking to upgrade my Nikon D80 to D90. Is it true that the D90 has a slightly faster processor then the D3100? I know the D90 is an older model but I need faster processor then 1080P video.

I need to sell my beloved D80 first before I can get the D90. :cry:

[wetsnot]

Thanks for starting this thread as I am looking to upgrade my Nikon D80 to D90. Is it true that the D90 has a slightly faster processor then the D3100? I know the D90 is an older model but I need faster processor then 1080P video.

I need to sell my beloved D80 first before I can get the D90. :cry:

Speed in what way?
Like continuous shooting?

[zz1988]

that's one of the lower prices right now.
Black's is selling at the same price.

is it a good deal? it's been at this price since beginning of November.

thank you for telling
because i am going on trip and want a better camera ( using G10 currently)

do u think i should spend more $200 to get A33 in stead?
For bestbuy, if i am not satisify, i can return within 28 days right?

[wetsnot]

thank you for telling
because i am going on trip and want a better camera ( using G10 currently)

do u think i should spend more $200 to get A33 in stead?
For bestbuy, if i am not satisify, i can return within 28 days right?

whoa whoa whoa.

you're using the panasonic lumix dmc-g10 and you're thinking of getting a sony a390 as an upgrade?

seems like more of a move sideways to me.

Personally, I pool micro four thirds in the same class as entry level DSLR.

I've read reviews for sony dslr and I've seen them, but I've never really tested or played around with them.

[zz1988]

whoa whoa whoa.

you're using the panasonic lumix dmc-g10 and you're thinking of getting a sony a390 as an upgrade?

seems like more of a move sideways to me.

Personally, I pool micro four thirds in the same class as entry level DSLR.

I've read reviews for sony dslr and I've seen them, but I've never really tested or played around with them.



Canon G10 only...:)

[jtplayte]

How about these two camera deals ???

Pentax K-r with 18-55 and 55-300 lens for $849 + Free Shipping (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16830184123&cm_re=pentax-_-30-184-123-_-Product)


Or, this kit might be good ???

Olympus E620 with second battery, case, 14-42 and 40-150 lenses for $680 + Free Shipping (http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Digital_SLR/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&cs=cadhs1&sku=A4023373&baynote_bnrank=6&baynote_irrank=0&~ck=baynoteSearch)

[wetsnot]

How about these two camera deals ???

Pentax K-r with 18-55 and 55-300 lens for $849 + Free Shipping


Or, this kit might be good ???

Olympus E620 with second battery, case, 14-42 and 40-150 lenses for $680 + Free Shipping

I'm not very familiar with Pentax.
But the 18-55mm and 55-300mm package sounds like a decent deal.

Same with the evolt e620. also seems like a good deals.

looks like the type of pricing you'd get from B&H or Adorama.



but if you normally go deal hunting for boxing week, i'd wait to see what kind of deals pop up.
i would expect to see heavy discounting on discontinued and entry level dslr packages (including mirrorless cameras).

[wetsnot]

Canon G10 only...:)

I'm not too big on Sony DSLR, although I hear nice things about the A55...

But the A33 wiith 18-55mm starts to hit the same price point as the Nikon D90...which I find to be an outstanding body even as it begins to hit it's end of life.

and at that price you also start to run into the Canon T1i and T2i.

[hjello]

Found this deal for 799 with 6 easy payments

http://www.theshoppingchannel.com/endeca/search.do?keyword=canon+t2i

Any comments? Seems decent?

[LonesomeDove]

Does the Canon T2i have autofocus video? I am looking at the Nikon D3100, which touts autofocus video as one of its features.

[wetsnot]

Does the Canon T2i have autofocus video? I am looking at the Nikon D3100, which touts autofocus video as one of its features.


The big thing about movie mode for D3100 is continuous autofocus.

For the T2i, you do not have continuous autofocus however you can use autofocus during movie recording (by pressing the shutter button half way).

[wetsnot]

Found this deal for 799 with 6 easy payments

http://www.theshoppingchannel.com/endeca/search.do?keyword=canon+t2i

Any comments? Seems decent?

well you can get a t2i with 18-55mm for $750 from pretty much everywhere

[stevetheman]

If I'm looking to pick up a camera before May when should I expect to see the best deals?

Thinking of selling my Pentax k200d (which I love) and HD video camera to pick up something which will do both.

I'm looking at the T2i, the 60d or the d7000. Any opinions?

[djredhat]

If I'm looking to pick up a camera before May when should I expect to see the best deals?

Thinking of selling my Pentax k200d (which I love) and HD video camera to pick up something which will do both.

I'm looking at the T2i, the 60d or the d7000. Any opinions?

D7000, but it's the most expensive. Unless something extraordinary pops us on Boxing day (which I highly doubt), I'd wait. I am sure better deals are ahead, and there is only one way electronics prices could go ;)

[stevetheman]

What does the D7000 and its kit lens run?

[RCLPhoto]

What does the D7000 and its kit lens run?

$1547, according to this table http://www.photoprice.ca/slr-camera-kits/

PM at FS/BB to save another $5

[wetsnot]

What does the D7000 and its kit lens run?


$1547, according to this table http://www.photoprice.ca/slr-camera-kits/

PM at FS/BB to save another $5

there is the kit that the manufacturer puts together ie. the body and lens come in one retail box.

and then there are kits that the retailers bundles together ie. 2 seperate items

[jacky28]

Or wait for a 10% off at BB. Ends up $1439+tax. Plus you get ~$18 reward points money back.

[dkq]

Is there any good price for 5D M2? It is a good camera for natural photography.

[wetsnot]

Is there any good price for 5D M2? It is a good camera for natural photography.

you just missed the instant rebates for 5D mark II.

it's back up to $2400-2500 again.

[stevetheman]

I'm leaning more towards the 60d just because of price but part of me would rather have nikon glass. I don't know!

[wetsnot]

I'm leaning more towards the 60d just because of price but part of me would rather have nikon glass. I don't know!

The 60D is interesting.

Canon broke the continuity of the 30D, 40D, 50D line when it introduced the 60D. Basically moving that line from semi-pro to enthusiast.

So if you're a Canon shooter (especially coming from the X0D line), then you'll be sorely disappointed in the 60D as it is barely a step up from the T2i. They share the same processor, sensor and the same body (no magnesium alloy body!!).

You'll find most of the difference from the T2i and the 60D in video recording.

[tomkuang]

From leaked FS Boxing Day flyer:

Canon XS w/ 18-55 IS LENS , 75-300 (non-IS?) Lens, Bag: $499.99
Canon 60D w/ 18-135 IS Lens, Extra Battery $1249.99
Canon T2i w/ 18-55 IS Lens, Extra Battery, 58mm UV filter: $849.99

Kind of disappointed on their T2i deal. think about every one has it for 750. Extra $100 gives you only a battery and filter. not hot at all. XS deal maybe OK. $350 (WM lowest price) plus $150 gives you an extra 75-300 (non-IS) lens and a bag. No comments on the 60D one since I'm not interested. Another thing is that they don't have any sale on Nikon.

[Senatorsca]

Hi,

I am new to SLR cameras. I am going to try to get an intermediate camera, and after reading MANY reviews and lots of picture comparisons, I am set on the E-PL1 (which I guess is a sort of Hybrid, with a much larger sensor). The PQ is astounding for the money, and rivals most of the SLR's in its price range in a much smaller package. Just wondering if you think A) it is a good purchase for its size, and B) the price I should be paying.

Thank you!

[Vietlord]

From leaked FS Boxing Day flyer:
Canon T2i w/ 18-55 IS Lens, Extra Battery, 58mm UV filter: $849.99

Kind of disappointed on their T2i deal. think about every one has it for 750. Extra $100 gives you only a battery and filter. not hot at all. XS deal maybe OK. $350 (WM lowest price) plus $150 gives you an extra 75-300 (non-IS) lens and a bag. No comments on the 60D one since I'm not interested. Another thing is that they don't have any sale on Nikon.


I agree with you.
During Black Friday, a US sales day, Blacks had a sale for the T2i and the IS kit lens for $730.
An extra battery + filter can be bought from a 3rd company source online for under $10 together

[foolpan]

Is there any good deal for Canon 7D with 15-85 lens? The price on Arden is around 2050 which is the best I can see in the market so far.

[LonesomeDove]

Kerrisdale Cameras in Vancouver has the Nikon D3100 fir $629.99. Lowest since the Future Shop and Best Buy had it for the same price a couple of weeks ago. Everyone else is selling it for $650.

I wonder what the Boxing Day Price will be?

http://www.kerrisdalecameras.com/files/ad_121810s_983076.pdf

[wetsnot]

Hi,

I am new to SLR cameras. I am going to try to get an intermediate camera, and after reading MANY reviews and lots of picture comparisons, I am set on the E-PL1 (which I guess is a sort of Hybrid, with a much larger sensor). The PQ is astounding for the money, and rivals most of the SLR's in its price range in a much smaller package. Just wondering if you think A) it is a good purchase for its size, and B) the price I should be paying.

Thank you!

actually mirrorless cameras like the E-PL1 is more comparable to entry level DSLR.
Most retailers are selling the 14-42mm kit for $450 right now.

it is a good camera. i was strongly considering this one but ended up with a Panasonic G1.

[wetsnot]

Kerrisdale Cameras in Vancouver has the Nikon D3100 fir $629.99. Lowest since the Future Shop and Best Buy had it for the same price a couple of weeks ago. Everyone else is selling it for $650.

I wonder what the Boxing Day Price will be?

http://www.kerrisdalecameras.com/files/ad_121810s_983076.pdf

it's still $629.99 at futureshop right now.

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/x/10153746.aspx

[tomkuang]

it's still $629.99 at futureshop right now.

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/x/10153746.aspx

On their F&F day few wks back, it was ^629.99 * 0.9 = 566.99

That's the lowest I've seen. But I missed that one. I was hoping that they will have it for that low in boxing day.

[DanielT]

Any good leads on Sony's NEX-5? preferably with the pancake lens included

[pepperMonkey]

If I'm looking to pick up a camera before May when should I expect to see the best deals?

Thinking of selling my Pentax k200d (which I love) and HD video camera to pick up something which will do both.

I'm looking at the T2i, the 60d or the d7000. Any opinions?

Not saying these are better than the ones proposed but you can always get body only Pentax K-R or Pentax K-5 (albeit the latter is expensive). This way you can reuse any lenses you have from the K200D.

[LonesomeDove]

The Future Shop Boxing Day Flyer is up already in the RFD Boxing Day forum.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/exclusive-full-high-resolution-future-shop-boxing-day-flyer-french-english-980333/

No Nikons on sale but lots of Canon DSLR.

I suppose the Rebel XS bundle at $499.99 is the best of the bunch. It comes with 15-55 mm and 75-300 mm lenses plus a bag.

[tomkuang]

The Future Shop Boxing Day Flyer is up already in the RFD Boxing Day forum.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/exclusive-full-high-resolution-future-shop-boxing-day-flyer-french-english-980333/

No Nikons on sale but lots of Canon DSLR.

I suppose the Rebel XS bundle at $499.99 is the best of the bunch. It comes with 15-55 mm and 75-300 mm lenses plus a bag.

keep in mind that the 75-300 is a non-IS lens

[Tommy74]

On their F&F day few wks back, it was ^629.99 * 0.9 = 566.99

That's the lowest I've seen. But I missed that one. I was hoping that they will have it for that low in boxing day.

FS was selling iD3100 kit with free $69 Tripod and Kodak photo book coupon. After returning the tripod it comes to around $496 for the D3100 with 18-55mm kit and free coupon ( $37 value). Hard to beat even on boxing day. Usually the body only sells for more...

[xcspeed]

FS was selling iD3100 kit with free $69 Tripod and Kodak photo book coupon. After returning the tripod it comes to around $496 for the D3100 with 18-55mm kit and free coupon ( $37 value). Hard to beat even on boxing day. Usually the body only sells for more...

How were you able to return the tripod?

[southnam]

again i'm gonna say metz makes good flashes at a cheaper price than canon for equivalent GN's.

which Metz one might I ask.

[wetsnot]

which Metz one might I ask.

depends on what your needs are.
there should be a metz version for each canon or nikon by guide number.


so if you're looking at a Canon Speedlite 580exII, then the equivalent is the Metz 58 AF-1 for Canon

[wetsnot]

Any good leads on Sony's NEX-5? preferably with the pancake lens included

the double lens kit goes for about $800.

The NEX-3 with double lens kit should go for about $700 which is a far better buy since they are the same camera except for the NEX-5's magnesium alloy body.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/hot-dell-ca-sony-nex-5-w-16mm-18-55mm-lens-766-87-tax-included-977750/
if this deal is still alive then it's a good one.

[wetsnot]

FS was selling iD3100 kit with free $69 Tripod and Kodak photo book coupon. After returning the tripod it comes to around $496 for the D3100 with 18-55mm kit and free coupon ( $37 value). Hard to beat even on boxing day. Usually the body only sells for more...


How were you able to return the tripod?

how was the receipt written up?
should have been written up to be it's own SKU to prevent people from returning the accessories to lower the price of the camera.

[canuckkat]

@wetsnot do you recommend the NEX-5? I remember reading about it and thinking that it's not that great.

What are the pros and cons of it compared to the D90 and T2i?

[wetsnot]

@wetsnot do you recommend the NEX-5? I remember reading about it and thinking that it's not that great.

What are the pros and cons of it compared to the D90 and T2i?

NEX-5 vs D90 vs T2i - that's jumping all over the place. hard to compare.

ultimately depends on your needs.
what are you using the camera to shoot?
-indoors vs outdoors
-people pictures, wildlife, stock, fine art etc.
how important is video for you?
and most important what's your budget

NEX-5 Pros and Cons:
Cons:
-lack of e-mount lenses
-no hotshoe (means no hotshoe flashguns)
-the 18-55mm lenses unbalances and is obtrusive compared to the tiny body
-not comfortable in your hands
-i have had issues with overexposure with most sony cameras (with my limited testing)
Pros:
-small
-does a decent job with pictures
-auto HDR (for those who don't know wtf they are doing)
-sweep panorama (kinda neat sony P&S feature)
-apparently i read that it should be able to do 3D...but i haven't seen any news on any lenses for this.
-full HD video
-tilting screen

There's really no comparing a mirrorless to a mid-level DSLR.
Still photography, the D90 and T2i have the potential to annihilate the NEX5.
The only real con is that the D90 and T2i are bigger and heavier than the NEX5.

[canuckkat]

It's small body is definitely a turn off for me. I like the feel of a full/"real" camera.

Thanks for the thoughtful post. :) I think I'm not going to throw the NEX-5 on my watch list. Seems like it's not what I'm looking for. (I'm shopping for my photography class.... but rumour has it that the school has T1i I could borrow... if I can get my hands on one on the day I need it heh.)

[spiralspirit]

It's small body is definitely a turn off for me. I like the feel of a full/"real" camera.


both have their place. I have a 1dmk2 and an XSi, and both get used although the XSi gets used more often because its a lot easier to throw it in a bag. I love the feel of my 1d, just after lugging it for 8 hours.

edit: canuckkat -> if you only 'sort of' need a DSLR for the class why you don't look at renting one for the day you need it? you can rent them from most photography stores.

[wetsnot]

both have their place. I have a 1dmk2 and an XSi, and both get used although the XSi gets used more often because its a lot easier to throw it in a bag. I love the feel of my 1d, just after lugging it for 8 hours.

edit: canuckkat -> if you only 'sort of' need a DSLR for the class why you don't look at renting one for the day you need it? you can rent them from most photography stores.

I believe some photography programs will allow you to rent for a semester.
And there is a strong possibility your school may have educational discounts for local retailers.

[dorkus99]

Vistek Daily Deals, today only
Canon T2i with 18-55 IS, $719.95
http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

I thought yesterday's deal was supposed to be the last, but I guess they dident get many bites on it.

[wetsnot]

Vistek Daily Deals, today only
Canon T2i with 18-55 IS, $719.95
http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

I thought yesterday's deal was supposed to be the last, but I guess they dident get many bites on it.

wtf i thought they were supposed to start at 11am

[dorkus99]

wtf i thought they were supposed to start at 11am

Yup that too.. i dunno.. this one is just strange all around, since yesterday's deal is not even in the list at the bottom as being complete or sold out

[wetsnot]

Yup that too.. i dunno.. this one is just strange all around, since yesterday's deal is not even in the list at the bottom as being complete or sold out

odd.

oh well, lowest price by about $20.

[dorkus99]

Yup that too.. i dunno.. this one is just strange all around, since yesterday's deal is not even in the list at the bottom as being complete or sold out

I spoke too soon.. yesterday's Camlight LED is now in the bottom list.
Anyhoo.. today's started early for some reason... and I am guessing its the last one?

[superwell]

Jumped on the sony A33 and I must say I am loving it. Took tons of photo's of the Lunar last night and even with the kit lens 18-55 the moon came out really nice on M mode. If anyone has an questions on it I will answer what i can.

[BAM]

What would be a good lense to match with the d3100. Beginner with a tendency to like the telephoto shots (racing pics etc)

[wetsnot]

I spoke too soon.. yesterday's Camlight LED is now in the bottom list.
Anyhoo.. today's started early for some reason... and I am guessing its the last one?
should be. it's the 11th day.


Jumped on the sony A33 and I must say I am loving it. Took tons of photo's of the Lunar last night and even with the kit lens 18-55 the moon came out really nice on M mode. If anyone has an questions on it I will answer what i can.
any daylight photos yet?
I find sony overexposes, but it could be that I'm an idiot as the operator. I don't get much playing time with sony and pentax.
Likes and dislikes so far?

[wetsnot]

What would be a good lense to match with the d3100. Beginner with a tendency to like the telephoto shots (racing pics etc)

I suppose you can get a telephoto 55-200 or 55-300. Might want to get something that has VR.

I will always suggest using a tripod.



my all-time favourite DX mounted lens is
Nikkor AF-S 35mm F1.8G DX

In my opinion the best beginners lens (for DX). Good max aperture, it's "normal" so will promote good habits of body position, good street lens. And it's cheap.

[ambercaslake]

First off thanks to westnot I have been looking for a T2i and feel I save some money thanks to this thread...

I took the http://www.vistek.ca/store/DigitalSL...5250-lens.aspx
deal to Henrys as there is not a vistek in my area...

Henrys Beat the price by 12.00 and also right now when you purchase the T2i you get the Kit free so for
$887.00 I got T2i the two lenses Camera bag HDMI Cable 4gb class 10 memory card
Also got Henrys to throw in a free Cleaning pen and Lens Filter...


thanks again for this great thread and hope I can help someone else out..

[wetsnot]

First off thanks to westnot I have been looking for a T2i and feel I save some money thanks to this thread...

I took the http://www.vistek.ca/store/DigitalSL...5250-lens.aspx
deal to Henrys as there is not a vistek in my area...

Henrys Beat the price by 12.00 and also right now when you purchase the T2i you get the Kit free so for
$887.00 I got T2i the two lenses Camera bag HDMI Cable 4gb class 10 memory card
Also got Henrys to throw in a free Cleaning pen and Lens Filter...


thanks again for this great thread and hope I can help someone else out..

ya you saved money for sure. the double zoom kits for T2i are still in the $900-950 territory (both double zoom kits). plus you got extra stuff which is awesome.

In Calgary, The Camera Store is super aggressive with price matching and wheeling/dealing. it pays to shop hard and challenge retailers.

[lewdvig]

Should I get a Panasonic G2 or Canon T2i?

I'll be shooting lots of indoor family pics and occasional outdoor shots.

[joker32]

i'm still waiting for D3100 to drop a bit more .. :D

[tomkuang]

First off thanks to westnot I have been looking for a T2i and feel I save some money thanks to this thread...

I took the http://www.vistek.ca/store/DigitalSL...5250-lens.aspx
deal to Henrys as there is not a vistek in my area...

Henrys Beat the price by 12.00 and also right now when you purchase the T2i you get the Kit free so for
$887.00 I got T2i the two lenses Camera bag HDMI Cable 4gb class 10 memory card
Also got Henrys to throw in a free Cleaning pen and Lens Filter...


thanks again for this great thread and hope I can help someone else out..

Hi ambercaslake

How can you get the two lens from Henry @ $887?

Cheers

[wetsnot]

Hi ambercaslake

How can you get the two lens from Henry @ $887?

Cheers

if you go in and tell them another store has a better deal, they'll usually at least match it.

Vistek has the double lens kit at $899

[tomkuang]

if you go in and tell them another store has a better deal, they'll usually at least match it.

Vistek has the double lens kit at $899

Thanks for the tips. But I didn't see vistek has a double lens kit @ $899. Lowest I've seen is $929 (w/ 75 - 300 USM) Lens> Maybe I missed it again?

[wetsnot]

Thanks for the tips. But I didn't see vistek has a double lens kit @ $899. Lowest I've seen is $929 (w/ 75 - 300 USM) Lens> Maybe I missed it again?

must have changed recently. the 18-55 and 55-250 was $899

[wetsnot]

Should I get a Panasonic G2 or Canon T2i?

I'll be shooting lots of indoor family pics and occasional outdoor shots.

You can't lose with Canon. Tried and true in the DSLR world. The T2i is a solid purchase. DSLR is firmly established now so you'll see lots of lenses, flashes and other accessories. At $719.99 (Vistek's deal of the day), it is a pretty good buy.

Mirrorless (micro four thirds for Panasonic/Olympus) is new. More lenses are slowly coming. Panasonic seems to be pushing micro four thirds hard and making alot of new technology available in this line (the GH2 and 3D lens).

The G2 is a nice jump for people from the compact P&S world. Some neat technology like the touchscreen that you can select focus points, adjust camera settings and fire the shutter from. Good image quality that I would say is comparable to entry level DSLR, not alot of choice for glass but the stuff that is out there is pretty good. For $599.99 at futureshop and henrys I think it's also a good buy.

I own a Panasonic G1, downgrading from DSLR. I also did some serious messing around with the G2 after it was released this summer. So ask questions about it.

The T2i is a better camera and the more expensive. Can't lose with T2i, but the G2 is a good camera as well.

[canuckkat]

Grr... I keep comparing between the T2i and the D90 and D90 keeps coming out better. Except for resell value. *sigh*

ETA: And when I say resell value, I mean transferring of warranty. ;)

[wetsnot]

Grr... I keep comparing between the T2i and the D90 and D90 keeps coming out better. Except for resell value. *sigh*

ETA: And when I say resell value, I mean transferring of warranty. ;)

so you have your answer then

[superwell]

should be. it's the 11th day.


any daylight photos yet?
I find sony overexposes, but it could be that I'm an idiot as the operator. I don't get much playing time with sony and pentax.
Likes and dislikes so far?

I havent been outside with it yet..except last night (this morning) at 2am-3am..LOL but I have taken many photo's indoors.
My pro's for the camera are endless. My cons are, it's a bit small. I dont have huge hands but my pinky finger hangs off of it. This is a con for me, but it was a factor in the purchase as it will be used by both myself and wifey..she needed the lightest/smallest one to get her from P&S. My other con is the lake of adjustment in video. Overall the camera does a wonderful job..as you can see from online photo's and videos but last night with very low light...ie if I was at a wedding..the camera struggles a bit..but this isn't a large factor for me..as I wont be shooting video at a wedding or non lit room more than once a year.

I am/was on the fence with 3 camera's..A33, Nikon 3100 and T2i. I have almost removed the T2i, just for the fact that it doesn't autofocus, and a lack of dedicated movie button...maybe on the T3i. The 3100 i havn't been able to track one down, so I took the A33 for now...got 30 days to return..hopefully I can get a hold of a 3100 soon so I can do a fair compare.

Here is a photo of the lunar from last night (full eclipse) 18-55 kit lense/ F/5.6/ E 1 sec. ISO-800

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3167/fulleclipse.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/i/fulleclipse.jpg/)

[zzricezz]

I PM the t2i kit with 55-250 from futureshop for $868 plus taxes. Also picked up the 430ex II flash for 240 plus taxes from best buy.

Im going to return it but if someone here in GTA want it, I can give it to u for what I paid for it plus $10 gas money in meeting you.

I have the receipts for warranty.

[wetsnot]

the t2i does autofocus during movie mode, but it doesn't continuously autofocus like the D3100, which is flying off the shelves.

you gotta press the shutter down half way while recording if you want to autofocus on the t2i.

and you're right the lack of dedicated movie button is odd considering they emphasize video recording on the tv commercial. go figure.

[spiralspirit]

holy *!@4 resize that moon pic pls.

[gin]

I PM the t2i kit with 55-250 from futureshop for $868 plus taxes. Also picked up the 430ex II flash for 240 plus taxes from best buy.

Im going to return it but if someone here in GTA want it, I can give it to u for what I paid for it plus $10 gas money in meeting you.

I have the receipts for warranty.

Hi,
How did you PM to $868. Which deal did you compare with? FS currently has the deal for $999.

Thanks

[wetsnot]

Canon Speedlite 430EX II - PM Bestbuy and Merkle $256.99

Canon Speedlite 580EX II - PM Bestbuy and Aden Camera $379.99

links posted on OP

[gin]

Hi
What do you all think about this deal - $899 for the T2i with kit lens and the 55-250mm lens. In addition, they are throwing in an extra battery and remote control.

http://simonscameras.com/viewdetails.asp?item=3133

Thinking of ordering this as the battery and remote is worth $100 or going to Best Buy to see if they can PM on the double lens package.

Thoughts?

[wetsnot]

Hi
What do you all think about this deal - $899 for the T2i with kit lens and the 55-250mm lens. In addition, they are throwing in an extra battery and remote control.

http://simonscameras.com/viewdetails.asp?item=3133

Thinking of ordering this as the battery and remote is worth $100 or going to Best Buy to see if they can PM on the double lens package.

Thoughts?

dont forget to add shipping.

[ambercaslake]

Hi ambercaslake

How can you get the two lens from Henry @ $887?

Cheers


I used this link from the orginal post.... but it seems vistek has now upped the price 50 bux
Canon T2i with 18-55 and 55-250 Vistek $899.99
http://www.vistek.ca/store/DigitalSL...5250-lens.aspx



When I went into henrys and told them aabout the deal they didnt even ask to see the flyer they just went on their computer and gave me their best price, hope it helps as was mentioned they want your buisness so will be aggresive with their prices.

[strike3dom]

Hi
What do you all think about this deal - $899 for the T2i with kit lens and the 55-250mm lens. In addition, they are throwing in an extra battery and remote control.

http://simonscameras.com/viewdetails.asp?item=3133

Thinking of ordering this as the battery and remote is worth $100 or going to Best Buy to see if they can PM on the double lens package.

Thoughts?

That sounds like a good deal! I would totally jump on this if boxing day wasn't around the corner

[gin]

[QUOTE=gin;12107927]Hi
What do you all think about this deal - $899 for the T2i with kit lens and the 55-250mm lens. In addition, they are throwing in an extra battery and remote control.

http://simonscameras.com/viewdetails.asp?item=3133

Thinking of ordering this as the battery and remote is worth $100 or going to Best Buy to see if they can PM on the double lens package.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE

Edit: I went to Best Buy to see if they would price match - they refused. Gave me some BS answer about not recognizing the company and they dont price match on limited offers.

[wetsnot]

[QUOTE=gin;12107927]Hi
What do you all think about this deal - $899 for the T2i with kit lens and the 55-250mm lens. In addition, they are throwing in an extra battery and remote control.

http://simonscameras.com/viewdetails.asp?item=3133

Thinking of ordering this as the battery and remote is worth $100 or going to Best Buy to see if they can PM on the double lens package.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE

Edit: I went to Best Buy to see if they would price match - they refused. Gave me some BS answer about not recognizing the company and they dont price match on limited offers.

Complain.

Simon's is an authorized Canon dealer in Canada...you can check the Canon Canada website for this.

[wetsnot]

I used this link from the orginal post.... but it seems vistek has now upped the price 50 bux
Canon T2i with 18-55 and 55-250 Vistek $899.99
http://www.vistek.ca/store/DigitalSL...5250-lens.aspx



When I went into henrys and told them aabout the deal they didnt even ask to see the flyer they just went on their computer and gave me their best price, hope it helps as was mentioned they want your buisness so will be aggresive with their prices.

i'm very happy that you were able to get in on this at $899.99 and that Henry's decided to play ball and aggressively compete.

[milobloom]

Great thread, wetsnot, thanks for this.

From the Future Shop Boxing Day flyer, posted on this very site..
Canon Rebel XS with 18-55 IS lens and 75-300 telephoto lens (presumably non-IS) - $499.99
http://boxingday.redflagdeals.com/index.php/flyers2010/image_full/236/

Canon Rebel T2i, 18-55 IS lens, 58mm UV filter, spare rechargeable battery - $849.99. (doesn't seem like a great deal to me but I guess if you were actually going to buy a brand-name Canon rechargeable battery, might be a good deal.)
http://boxingday.redflagdeals.com/index.php/flyers2010/image_full/257/

[RCLPhoto]

Canon Speedlite 430EX II - PM Bestbuy and Merkle $256.99

Canon Speedlite 580EX II - PM Bestbuy and Aden Camera $379.99

links posted on OP

Nice deals.

Wetsnot, how are you finding all these prices, do you browse camera stores all day. :lol:

[Senatorsca]

I am all frazzled now....is the Nex-3 better than the E-PL1 for IQ? From what I see with my eyes, the E-PL1 is much sharper.

And any good deals on the Nex-3?

[wetsnot]

I am all frazzled now....is the Nex-3 better than the E-PL1 for IQ? From what I see with my eyes, the E-PL1 is much sharper.

And any good deals on the Nex-3?

What lenses?
and
RAW or JPEG?


The E-PL1's in-camera JPEG processing is amazing. So amazing that I haven't seen a need to test in RAW.

The NEX3's in-camera JPEG processing isn't nearly as good. I insist that it overexposes and loses a ton of details. Shooting in RAW makes up for it.

The NEX3's 18-55mm is pretty good. Similar to DSLR 18-55s. Nice and sharp dead center. I have issues with 18-55s (any brand) at 18mm. The 16mm pancake is ok but not nearly as good as the Panasonic 20mm.

The Olympus 14-42mm is decent and the 17mm is better than the NEX3's but produces overly warm colours.

[bmacallister]

Last week we got FS to price match Cendirect on a D90 with 18-55 lens kit, down to $730. Cendirect had it on for originally for $750, no longer on their site but a sweet deal if they have access to any more.

We tried them all and the D90 outperformed the T2i hands down in all light situations, but the D90 lacks 1080p.

Planning on getting a 300mm lens, so why waste extra money on the 105mm when a 55mm will give you better pics in most circumstances.

Even if Cendirect doens't have any more in stock, Henry's has the same camera for $799.99.

Highly suggest over the T2i, the Nikon sensor is just awesome

And to the previous poster having the vibration reduction in the lens over the body will make no impact on the picture quality. Most Nokon lens come with VR anyways.

[P@man]

I am all frazzled now....is the Nex-3 better than the E-PL1 for IQ? From what I see with my eyes, the E-PL1 is much sharper.

And any good deals on the Nex-3?

Should be. The Nex uses a DSLR sensor that should outperform any m4/3 easily. Where are you seeing these comparisons? From what I have seen in-store, the Nex IQ looks much better. Although it could be that the screen is so pimp that it makes pics look better on camera than they would on the computer.

[wetsnot]

Great thread, wetsnot, thanks for this.

From the Future Shop Boxing Day flyer, posted on this very site..
Canon Rebel XS with 18-55 IS lens and 75-300 telephoto lens (presumably non-IS) - $499.99
http://boxingday.redflagdeals.com/index.php/flyers2010/image_full/236/

Canon Rebel T2i, 18-55 IS lens, 58mm UV filter, spare rechargeable battery - $849.99. (doesn't seem like a great deal to me but I guess if you were actually going to buy a brand-name Canon rechargeable battery, might be a good deal.)
http://boxingday.redflagdeals.com/index.php/flyers2010/image_full/257/

the leaked flyer tells me the T2i with 2 lenses will be on sale at Vistek as a door crasher $849. decent price.

http://boxingday.redflagdeals.com/index.php/flyers2010/image_full/552

[wetsnot]

Should be. The Nex uses a DSLR sensor that should outperform any m4/3 easily. Where are you seeing these comparisons? From what I have seen in-store, the Nex IQ looks much better. Although it could be that the screen is so pimp that it makes pics look better on camera than they would on the computer.

true. APS sensor in NEX3 vs 4/3 sensor in E-PL1

JPEG processing in E-PL1 is far superior so i assume they were looking at JPEG.

Shooting RAW with the NEX3 should prove to be better.

[darklord700]

We tried them all and the D90 outperformed the T2i hands down in all light situations, but the D90 lacks 1080p.


This cannot be true. Nikon might trump Canon in terms of high ISO noise but in well lit situation, I don't think you'll see a difference.

[salabanzi]

What do you guys think of the d3000 w/ kit lens for 429.95 for the Vistek dec.26th door crasher?

http://boxingday.redflagdeals.com/index.php/flyers2010/image_full/559/

[wetsnot]

What do you guys think of the d3000 w/ kit lens for 429.95 for the Vistek dec.26th door crasher?

http://boxingday.redflagdeals.com/index.php/flyers2010/image_full/559/

It has seen cheaper pricing.
It was once $400 during October. Not bad though.

[D-Hunter]

What do you guys think about this Boxing day deal from Futureshop:

http://boxingday.redflagdeals.com/index.php/flyers2010/image_full/184/

I am a newbie in digital photography and personally I would like to experiment with a basic body coupled with different lensess rather than get a very expensive package first.

Does this make sense and whether this bundle from Futureshop suits my needs?

[wetsnot]

What do you guys think about this Boxing day deal from Futureshop:

http://boxingday.redflagdeals.com/index.php/flyers2010/image_full/184/

I am a newbie in digital photography and personally I would like to experiment with a basic body coupled with different lensess rather than get a very expensive package first.

Does this make sense and whether this bundle from Futureshop suits my needs?

Regarding the price:

I would say that price is decent. There have been better deals but at extremely limited supply (it's a discontinued body).

[LonesomeDove]

What do you think of this Boxing Day Canon T1i Bundle at Best Buy for $579.99?

Includes Bag, 58 mm UV filter, Battery, 4 GB memory card. Supposed to be $370 off.

[wetsnot]

What do you think of this Boxing Day Canon T1i Bundle at Best Buy for $579.99?

Includes Bag, 58 mm UV filter, Battery, 4 GB memory card. Supposed to be $370 off.

the going non-boxing day price is between $590-650 for just a t1i with the 18-55mm

[milobloom]

I am a newbie in digital photography and personally I would like to experiment with a basic body coupled with different lensess rather than get a very expensive package first.

Does this make sense and whether this bundle from Futureshop suits my needs?

As far as the camera itself - I picked the same one up back in June from Walmart (without an IS lens, mind you) and it has functioned nicely for me as a starter DSLR. The limitations I have found with it are the ISO (1600) and the lack of spot metering for exposure, but neither of those are show-stoppers for a beginner at all. (I've got my eye on the T2i body or kit now, and plan to keep the XS as a backup camera body.)

This Rebel XS kit has the image stabilizing (IS) lens, which is nice, and the 75-300 telephoto lens as well. I purchased the 75-300 used myself and have found it to be a decent lens even without IS. As many others here have said, your next one should be a 50mm f1.8 - it's cheap and you can have a lot of fun using aperture priority with it.

[Agnoia]

Anyone seen the new Panasonic GH2 DSLR available anywhere? Video is supposed to be better than the Canon 5DMII/60D/7D/T2i.

[wetsnot]

Anyone seen the new Panasonic GH2 DSLR available anywhere? Video is supposed to be better than the Canon 5DMII/60D/7D/T2i.

i'm not much for video. so that's not something i like to compare in depth.
but the GH2 continues panasonic's awesome performance in autofocus.
the sensor is better


what i really want is to get my hands on the 3D lens and give that a whirl.

[allenace]

I'm going to be jumping into the world of DSLR. Planning to but a T1i body or kit. My question is I like to do wildlife photography and am looking for a decent but reasonably priced telephoto lens. Would I be better off buying just the body and buying an all in one lens or get the kit and then a secondary lens? My entire budget would be about $1000 give or take a few bucks.

[pepperMonkey]

Anyone seen the new Panasonic GH2 DSLR available anywhere? Video is supposed to be better than the Canon 5DMII/60D/7D/T2i.

Vistek has it listed on their boxing week sale flyer for $1469 so I think it would be safe to say they have it in stock for now.
From a pro videographer: http://philipbloom.net/2010/12/07/whichdslr/

[pompoco]

I'm going to be jumping into the world of DSLR. Planning to but a T1i body or kit. My question is I like to do wildlife photography and am looking for a decent but reasonably priced telephoto lens. Would I be better off buying just the body and buying an all in one lens or get the kit and then a secondary lens? My entire budget would be about $1000 give or take a few bucks.

I would suggest to look in one of the T2i offerings for $900. The T2i has hands down the better IQ and processor and would be easie to sell.
The 18-55IS + 55-250 IS Kit gives you good IQ and stabilisation up to 400mm equiv. focal length.
The 18-55IS and 75-300USM Kity gives you more reach (480mm equiv.) at the loss of image stabilisation. The USM on the lens is not the real implementation and the IQ on the Tele lens is good but not as good as on the 55-250.

Another Idea would be the XSi (if you still can find one) with the 18-200 IS kit for around $1000 and when you need more reach and saved some money to get the Sigma 70-300 APO for ~ $250-$300 or with optical stabilizer for ~$400.

Since the 7x-300 lenses have no IS you should think about purchasing a tripod as well. Blacks has them usually on sale for $50-$70 for some better entry level tripods...

[pepperMonkey]

I'm going to be jumping into the world of DSLR. Planning to but a T1i body or kit. My question is I like to do wildlife photography and am looking for a decent but reasonably priced telephoto lens. Would I be better off buying just the body and buying an all in one lens or get the kit and then a secondary lens? My entire budget would be about $1000 give or take a few bucks.

Depends on how serious you are about wild life photography. Not sure how much the T1i is but get the package that is cheapest, then spend everything else on a telephoto lens, that would be my advice. If you can't get a decent telephoto lens (they are bloody expensive...) then an all in one lens would get you started. Even a kit zoom lens.
Oh, if you are going to be doing wildlife photographer, I would save some $$$ and get a decent tripod also. Non of that $70'ish nonsense you can get at blacks or something either.

[allenace]

Depends on how serious you are about wild life photography. Not sure how much the T1i is but get the package that is cheapest, then spend everything else on a telephoto lens, that would be my advice. If you can't get a decent telephoto lens (they are bloody expensive...) then an all in one lens would get you started. Even a kit zoom lens.
Oh, if you are going to be doing wildlife photographer, I would save some $$$ and get a decent tripod also. Non of that $70'ish nonsense you can get at blacks or something either.

I don't think I could classify myself as a serious. I was just looking at something better than the Canon S5 that I had. I may eventually get to that point but right now I just want to figure out how to use the camera. I'll be doing a lot of reading and may take a course or two. Actually the thought of going to DSLR intimidates me but no guts no glory right? :)

Thanks to everyone that have answered my question. It gives me a lot to think about.

[bunget]

... + 55-250 IS Kit gives you good IQ and stabilisation up to 400mm equiv. focal length...

I'm sorry but this is a terrible, terrible lens. I took it for a test on a sunny day this winter, and was so disappointed, 90% of the pictures are out of focus, and even the pictures that are in focus are mediocre.

And 75-300USM is even worse, from what I have read (haven't actually tested).

[bunget]

I'm going to be jumping into the world of DSLR. Planning to but a T1i body or kit. My question is I like to do wildlife photography and am looking for a decent but reasonably priced telephoto lens. Would I be better off buying just the body and buying an all in one lens or get the kit and then a secondary lens? My entire budget would be about $1000 give or take a few bucks.

I'm not a big fan of telephoto lenses, but I would go with a T1i body + a Tamron 18-270 f/3.5-6.3 VC. It would give you the range you want, it has image stabilization, decent image quality, and you could fit into your budget. On the other hand, I would rather go with a used 40D (that is going to give you metal body, a very useful second screen, lots of additional features, and a lower price) much more useful for outside shooting + same lens.

[pompoco]

I'm sorry but this is a terrible, terrible lens. I took it for a test on a sunny day this winter, and was so disappointed, 90% of the pictures are out of focus, and even the pictures that are in focus are mediocre.

And 75-300USM is even worse, from what I have read (haven't actually tested).

that is odd, I tried severall of these and they all performed pretty good. Try to use the central focus point and see if there still are focus probs.
This lens performs very well especially for the price and stopped down to f/8-f/11 it resolves very good up into the corners.
wide open it is good in centre resolution and the corners are a bitt soft but it is by no means a pro lens but a very good entry lens...
By the time you outgrow that lens you usually know exactly which other lenses you want and the prices for that can be easily 5-10 time the price of this lens.
These Kit Lenses are very capable and have a very good IQ stepped down one or two stops but if you need the sharpness wide open the lenses you use are usually a tad more expensive than the body anyways ;)
As for the 75-300, yes it is really a step down from the kit lenses. Luckily there is Sigma with the 70-300 APO for less than $300 which has a similar quality as the 70-300 IS just without stabilizer and one third of the price ;) that leaves lots of room to get a proper tripod and remote shutter release.
After that it is really a step into the $1000+ area for proper telephoto glass.

For the start you can get amazing shots with the 18-55 + 55-250 for a pretty good price and once outgrown they can be sold without much loss.
Things like distortion, vignetting and ca (colour fringes) are easily fixed with a mouse click in the DPP Software which comes with the camera.

EDIT: Another setup would be the XSi if possible to get or the T2i for body and if cheap with the 18-55IS
and/or the Sigma 17-70/2.8-4.5 ($400) which offers the fast 2.8 aperture as well as the increased focus accuracy for lenses 2.8 or faster (the XS body doesn'thave that) plus it is a very sharp lens whichworks great even at indoor events without flash.
and the Sigma 70-300 APO ($250) which is very sharp as well plus the Sigmas come with 5 yrs warranty...

IMHO the T1i is not a good choice to start since it's neither fish nor flesh so to speak.
The video is rudimentary and the processor is not really designe for video. The T2i would be the propper step up if you like to shoot some video as well plus it uses the gapless microlens design for the increased resolution (no gap between the pixels of the sensor). If only still pictures are wanted/needed the XSi would be the choice since it is a very capable body for a great "clearance" price with advance featurees for an entry in DSLR.
IQ is similar between the T1i and XSi despite the 3MP difference.

[nearfantastica]

Is it just me or are there not any good DSLR deals for boxing day?

[bunget]

that is odd, I tried severall of these and they all performed pretty good. Try to use the central focus point and see if there still are focus probs.
This lens performs very well especially for the price and stopped down to f/8-f/11 it resolves very good up into the corners.

I rechecked my pictures, maybe you are right, I used it up to 7.1, but still I was very disappointed. Maybe I have too high expectations from a 200$ lens :) The only thing I appreciated was the USM, way faster and less noise when focusing than the kit 18-55IS. Except from that, the 18-55IS is kicking 55-200 butt in any other way.

[bunget]

Is it just me or are there not any good DSLR deals for boxing day?


You are right! Nothing interesting. I was hoping for a sale on Tamron 17-50/2.8 or Sigma 17-70, but all in vain.

[ZIgot]

I'm going to be jumping into the world of DSLR. Planning to but a T1i body or kit. My question is I like to do wildlife photography and am looking for a decent but reasonably priced telephoto lens. Would I be better off buying just the body and buying an all in one lens or get the kit and then a secondary lens? My entire budget would be about $1000 give or take a few bucks.

I'd go with body + 18-55is + 55-250is.
I got very good results out of the 55-250 is. This lens is one of the best bang for the bucks telezoom.
A T1i body or even better T2i.

[hagbard]

You are right! Nothing interesting. I was hoping for a sale on Tamron 17-50/2.8 or Sigma 17-70, but all in vain.

For what camera? You can get that Tamron for $366 on eBay from a reliable dealer in Stratford (non-VC model).

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120640235642&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[c5ho]

No one has commented on these deals yet it seems, but I'm looking to purchase the D90 and for the boxing day/week sales, there seems to be these deals:

Blacks and Vistek both have the D90 with 55-105mm kit for $899. Is that a good deal?

Blacks: http://boxingday.redflagdeals.com/index.php/flyers2010/image_full/1532/

Vistek: http://boxingday.redflagdeals.com/index.php/flyers2010/image_full/552/

[salabanzi]

You guys know if the Henrys door crashers are only available in the downtown location or available in markham (other locations as well)?

[wetsnot]

No one has commented on these deals yet it seems, but I'm looking to purchase the D90 and for the boxing day/week sales, there seems to be these deals:

Blacks and Vistek both have the D90 with 55-105mm kit for $899. Is that a good deal?

Blacks: http://boxingday.redflagdeals.com/index.php/flyers2010/image_full/1532/

Vistek: http://boxingday.redflagdeals.com/index.php/flyers2010/image_full/552/

is ok. nothing earth shattering.

so far the only decent deals have been the 2 lens Rebel XS for $499 and the 2 lens T2i door crasher for $849.

[stevetheman]

Between here and May is it likely we'd see a better deal on the T2i + 18-55 + 55-200 kit?
$849 seems pretty good + pretty tempting.

[nearfantastica]

Between here and May is it likely we'd see a better deal on the T2i + 18-55 + 55-200 kit?
$849 seems pretty good + pretty tempting.


So it's getting the 55-200 lens for $100, over the T2i deals you can readily get for $750. How much does that lens normally retail for? It doesn't seem like that much of a deal at all.

[pompoco]

So it's getting the 55-200 lens for $100, over the T2i deals you can readily get for $750. How much does that lens normally retail for? It doesn't seem like that much of a deal at all.

MSRP is ~$360 (was $390). ATM the cheapest is Aden and Merkle with $260 the rest hoovers around $310-$350.... (photoprice (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/01168/Canon-EF-S-55-250mm-f4-5.6-IS-price.html))

So for $100 it's smoking since it has 4stop IS and can be sold for $200-$250 later.

[lewdvig]

Bought the GF1 at Saneal today as my hope for a $599 20mm bundle was dashed. $679 reg price seems fair. LOL at Visteks boxing day 'sale' price $80 more.

[lewdvig]

Did anyone get in on those super cheap Retail Edge Class 10 SD cards at Future Shop?

I'd like to get a couple of class 6 or 10 8 GB cards. NCIX seems to have the best deal - after rebate though.

[vanman00]

Was Just about to buy Canon EOS Rebel T1i 15.1MP Digital SLR Camera with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens and Accessory Kit for 579.99....

Is this a HOT deal or is there a better deal out there for the same type of camera. This will be my 1st camera purchase, was looking for advice.

Thanks in advance

[vanman00]

Was Just about to buy Canon EOS Rebel T1i 15.1MP Digital SLR Camera with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens and Accessory Kit for 579.99....

Is this a HOT deal or is there a better deal out there for the same type of camera. This will be my 1st camera purchase, was looking for advice.

Thanks in advance

This is the Kit and Kaboodle

The EOS Rebel T1i body

EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens

Eye-cup Ef

Wide strap EW-100DB III

LowePro Altus 140 Bag

58mm UV filter and a 4GB SDHC memory card

USB Interface cable IFC-200U and AV cable AVC-DC400

LP-E5 Battery Pack and LC-E5 Battery Charger

EOS Digital Solution Disk + instruction manual, Great photography is easy booklet, and Do more with Macro booklet

[pompoco]

Was Just about to buy Canon EOS Rebel T1i 15.1MP Digital SLR Camera with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens and Accessory Kit for 579.99....

Is this a HOT deal or is there a better deal out there for the same type of camera. This will be my 1st camera purchase, was looking for advice.

Thanks in advance

Hmm if you're set on the $600 budget for starters i suggest to look into the Nikon D3100 with 18-55 VR Kit (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03282/Nikon-D3100-with-18-55-VR-Kit-price.html)for $600. Nikon has a thrifty fifty (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/00085/Nikon-AF-Nikkor-50mm-f1.8-D-price.html)as well and you would be set for starters. If you need some reach on a budget the Sigma 70-300 APO (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/00374/Sigma-70-300mm-F4-5.6-DG-APO-Macro-for-Nikon-price.html)($250) is also available for Nikon.
Great starter camera and IMHO better than the XS or T1i offerings...

[flamenko]

Just picked up a NEX-5 from Futureshop for $629 after the salesman got it dropped $20 more. He said its actually $50 off as they were supposed to up the price (done now I see). Its for my son and spent the last hour learning it and I am extremely surprised at the ability of this camera, the video and pictures. It looks unassuming but you soon realize that any mode you want is a simple click away...

The most impressive feature is the low light capabilities as it brightens up even the darkest of rooms for a decent shot without flash.

Hmm maybe give him the Sammy NX-10 on its way and keep this one for myself...

[darklord700]

The most impressive feature is the low light capabilities as it brightens up even the darkest of rooms for a decent shot without flash.


To brighten up a room without flash, you either increase ISO and noise, or you drag the shutter so much that your picture will become blurry. There's no magic here, you need a flash or expensive large aperture lenses to shot in low light. Anything else is just gimmick.

[flamenko]

To brighten up a room without flash, you either increase ISO and noise, or you drag the shutter so much that your picture will become blurry. There's no magic here, you need a flash or expensive large aperture lenses to shot in low light. Anything else is just gimmick.

Hey....#$%wipe...did your post have a purpose at all? Love those $%^wads who purport to be so knowledgeable yet nave nothing to contribute dont you?

http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=635&q=nex-5+low+light&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=9000686101e0b807

While the Four Thirds sensor is much larger than a typical point-and-shoot's, Sony's APS-C sensors are significantly larger than the Four Thirds chip. A larger sensor usually means better performance in low light.

[pepperMonkey]

Hey....#$%wipe...did your post have a purpose at all? Love those $%^wads who purport to be so knowledgeable yet nave nothing to contribute dont you?

http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=635&q=nex-5+low+light&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=9000686101e0b807

While the Four Thirds sensor is much larger than a typical point-and-shoot's, Sony's APS-C sensors are significantly larger than the Four Thirds chip. A larger sensor usually means better performance in low light.

...darky wasn't exactly forthright in insults or degradations so...umm...chill?
besides, it's the holidays, be merry :)

As for the sammy, if you want to consider returning it and just stick with the Nex-3 (better IQ) or even the Oly E-PL1(better flushed system). As far as I can tell, the Sammy NX line just doesn't seem to be selling that well around the world specially compared to the NEX, Pens and GFx's, though that could change...(it is Samsung after all).

[flamenko]

...darky wasn't exactly forthright in insults or degradations so...umm...chill?
besides, it's the holidays, be merry :)

As for the sammy, if you want to consider returning it and just stick with the Nex-3 (better IQ) or even the Oly E-PL1(better flushed system). As far as I can tell, the Sammy NX line just doesn't seem to be selling that well around the world specially compared to the NEX, Pens and GFx's, though that could change...(it is Samsung after all).

Darky did a great job with his point I think but seems to forget the threads are here for people to offer their thoughts especially after they have bought and tried the camera. I got the NX for myself and the NEX for my son...not getting rid of eothe and Merry Xmas...

[bunget]

For what camera? You can get that Tamron for $366 on eBay from a reliable dealer in Stratford (non-VC model).

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120640235642&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Yeah I know that, just was hoping for something cheaper :)

[luckystrike]

Looks like the Vistek Boxing Day prices are in effect online. I was able to order the Canon T2i w/18-55 IS and 55-250 IS Lens (http://www.vistek.ca/store/DigitalSLRs/251737/canon-eos-digital-rebel-t2i-w1855-55250-lens.aspx).

Thanks for the thread OP, very useful!

[canuckkat]

Surprise boxing day sale at Best Buy for D90 ($749.99, OOS though): http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/x/10130519.aspx

Lowest I've see it. Kinda pissed that I didn't check last night. Heh.

[user01]

Anyone know any deals for Canon 7D? I don't want all those junks in the bundle, probably just camera and lens and/or CF memory card.

[MrDisco]

Anyone know any deals for Canon 7D? I don't want all those junks in the bundle, probably just camera and lens and/or CF memory card.

i think vistek has it on sale..not sure. i do know that the one at fs/bb is not a deal at all based on what photoprice has it listed for.
you should also check aden

[titleeboy]

Was Just about to buy Canon EOS Rebel T1i 15.1MP Digital SLR Camera with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens and Accessory Kit for 579.99....

Is this a HOT deal or is there a better deal out there for the same type of camera. This will be my 1st camera purchase, was looking for advice.

Thanks in advance
++

iam in the situation... what have u decided....

[flamenko]

++

iam in the situation... what have u decided....

I did alot of checking before I decided on the Nex-5 and was one step away from that camera (T1i). It is one of the best in consumer reviews and the package deal is untouchable. I only went with the Nex-5 because of low light piks which are amazing on this camera... Perfect example is this morning opening present. Every year we saw red eye from the flash. This year, no flash requirement and great shots.....



I am not a camera pro but I can tell you that I have looked at every camera deal going in the past few weeks and the T1i is a killer price for a top camera (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-rebel-t1i-15-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-lens-and-accessory-kit-t1/10159372.aspx?path=a2e87e0d0f8c3dec16575a8ddcadde0 5en02) that will be gone soon enough. Similar deals can be found for >mp cameras but for the most current model, this is great.

[stevetheman]

wetsnot do you think we'll see the T2i with 18-55 and 55-200 back at that price (or cheaper) before May?

Seems like a pretty good deal and I am tempted to pull the trigger.

[pompoco]

wetsnot do you think we'll see the T2i with 18-55 and 55-200 back at that price (or cheaper) before May?

Seems like a pretty good deal and I am tempted to pull the trigger.

I'm not wetsnot but give you my thoughts on this (anyways) ;)

Let's put it in perspective ;)

The T2i Kit (only 18-55IS) sold for $800 in the last weeks/month.....
The 55-250IS Lens MSRPS for around $380 and sells usually $280-$330....

Now you can get both for $850....or $900 if you snooze.

Getting it cheaper might be possible but is very unlikely, since it would canibalize the sales of the T1i and canon seems to try to have a gap of $250-$300 between these two cameras... (as well as ther $200-$250 between XS and T1I)

[stevetheman]

I'm not wetsnot but give you my thoughts on this (anyways) ;)

Let's put it in perspective ;)

The T2i Kit (only 18-55IS) sold for $800 in the last weeks/month.....
The 55-250IS Lens MSRPS for around $380 and sells usually $280-$330....

Now you can get both for $850....or $900 if you snooze.

Getting it cheaper might be possible but is very unlikely, since it would canibalize the sales of the T1i and canon seems to try to have a gap of $250-$300 between these two cameras... (as well as ther $200-$250 between XS and T1I)

HMMM ... pretty tough not to go ahead and snag this one. Have only heard good things about the T2i and the old stuff I'd be selling is only depreciating in the meantime.

[typer100]

T1i body - 499$ minus 20$ refund plus free shipping with Paypal.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/canon-t1i-body-only-499-henrys-paypal-20-refund-free-shipping-983749/

[darklord700]

I did alot of checking before I decided on the Nex-5 and was one step away from that camera (T1i). It is one of the best in consumer reviews and the package deal is untouchable. I only went with the Nex-5 because of low light piks which are amazing on this camera... Perfect example is this morning opening present. Every year we saw red eye from the flash. This year, no flash requirement and great shots.....


Sorry to burst your bubbles but the reason you think the NEX-5 has better low light performance is most likely the camera bumped up the ISO and hence creating noise. All these cameras, T1i, T2i, 60D, 7D and NEX-5 should perform just about the same in low light. There might be some variation but one certainly won't expect the difference is between needing a flash and not.

[canuckkat]

Sorry to burst your bubbles but the reason you think the NEX-5 has better low light performance is most likely the camera bumped up the ISO and hence creating noise. All these cameras, T1i, T2i, 60D, 7D and NEX-5 should perform just about the same in low light. There might be some variation but one certainly won't expect the difference is between needing a flash and not.

Agreed. It probably looks better on your camera, but once you compare it to a T2i taken (with flash!) photo in photoshop, you'll most likely see a lot of noise on the photo from your NEX5. Even if they look the same on the camera.

[dhobiwala]

picked up the T2i from vistek - with the 2 lenses, the answer to "does it hot" is YES. i've heard that the 18-55 lens is nothing to write home about, so i'll try to sell it and put that $$ towards a better one if i get really fancy. but overall it seemed like the best bang for buck.

i'm no professional photographer; by the time i get that good (if i ever do), i'll have gotten good mileage out of this one and it'll be a spare, or a gift, or i'll just sell it. I wasn't too thrilled about the size - felt like the D90 was more substantical in my hands (i have big hands) - the 60D was by far the nicest feel of the T2i, D90 and 60D. I didn't even really look at the 7D and up. but I do like the feel and quality of the T2i, and with the extra lens, so it was an easier decision.

and, for all those asking whether this price will come down in the next 3-6 months - gimme a break guys - of course the price might go lower at some point, it's a matter of time. let's be clear, cameras are electronics, it's not like the old days. the decision to buy one now should be whether you think you need it now or in the near future - vacation, baby, home movies, whatever... if you're just looking for the best price, then of course you could wait for the price to come down, the next generation camera to show up - but then you'll want the next thing. remember when the Canon XT was the schizz?? we all said it - "if it only comes down another $100, i'll def get it...".

(please, no flames, just trying to offer perspective)

[spiralspirit]

picked up the T2i from vistek - with the 2 lenses, the answer to "does it hot" is YES. i've heard that the 18-55 lens is nothing to write home about, so i'll try to sell it and put that $$ towards a better one if i get really fancy. but overall it seemed like the best bang for buck.
you heard wrong.

The 18-55mm IS is a great lens - both optically as well as its range. Very good lens to start out with - don't sell it. There are so many on the market you won't get much for it, and the lens is very decent. Use the camera for a while until you understand what about the lens is limiting you (focal range, max aperture, etc) and then worry about what you're going to get instead.

It's always exciting to get new toys but for some reason in photography people get a new camera and immediately start thinking of things to spend their money on before they even know what exactly it is they need. Don't get any cheap filters (everyone thinks they need a dozen filters right away), get a medium sized bag that isn't too expensive, a third party battery, read your manual thoroughly and tuck it into your bag, then go take your camera out a couple times to get a feel for it.

Another suggestion is to join a vibrant photography forum - a canon related one I like is photography on the net (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php)

[darklord700]

Agreed. It probably looks better on your camera, but once you compare it to a T2i taken (with flash!) photo in photoshop, you'll most likely see a lot of noise on the photo from your NEX5. Even if they look the same on the camera.

I suspect people saying one camera is better than the other in low noise whatsoever do so by looking in the LCD. What they fail to realize is everything looks sharp on a 3" LCD and some manufacturers like Sony, I suspect, pimp up their LCD to give the illusion that their camera is better. After all, how many NEX-5 buyers will take the NEX-5 and the T2i home, take some pictures and do a 100% pixel peep comparison?

[flamenko]

My point was received I think...no need to leave it front and center.

[darklord700]

Have you read about the NEX much less tried it at all? If so, let us know so we know just how much credibility to base your input on.


What I mean is that even between my full frame and cropper, there really can't be more than 1 stop in iso difference that you can go from using flash to no flash. All these croppers, Sony, Canon, Nikon etc, in the sub-$1K range should perform just about the same.

I'm sure the NEX is a fine camera but I just don't believe you can go from flash to no flash because of the camera. Anyway, please don't let my pedantic point of view ruin you purchase. We are very lucky to live in an era where it is very hard to find a bad camera from major manufacturers even if you try. Happy holidays!

[hohohong]

Sorry to burst your bubbles but the reason you think the NEX-5 has better low light performance is most likely the camera bumped up the ISO and hence creating noise. All these cameras, T1i, T2i, 60D, 7D and NEX-5 should perform just about the same in low light. There might be some variation but one certainly won't expect the difference is between needing a flash and not.

What's wrong with bumping ISO if it can perform good on high ISO without being grainy even on LCD size screen?

I'm still debating between t2i and Nex. I wanna hear all ur input.

[nearfantastica]

I really wasn't impressed with any of the deals over boxing day. Anyone have a rough idea when traditionally would be a good time to get a good deal? When do companies typically launch their new series?

[soarer2k]

Sony nex3 with 18-55mm lensis $499 now. Is it a good deal? Or 599 with dual lens better deal?

[darklord700]

What's wrong with bumping ISO if it can perform good on high ISO without being grainy even on LCD size screen?

I'm still debating between t2i and Nex. I wanna hear all ur input.

Because no picture will appear grainy on a 3" LCD so you can't just the sharpness of the pictures from the LCD, unless you zoom in a lot.

[milobloom]

I'm still debating between t2i and Nex. I wanna hear all ur input.

My only thought would be that Canon lenses will be easier to find (secondhand, for example) than Sony lenses. That may not be a concern for you, but it is one reason to go with Canon or Nikon rather than Olympus, Pentax, Sony, etc..

[spiralspirit]

What I mean is that even between my full frame and cropper, there really can't be more than 1 stop in iso difference that you can go from using flash to no flash. All these croppers, Sony, Canon, Nikon etc, in the sub-$1K range should perform just about the same.

I'm sure the NEX is a fine camera but I just don't believe you can go from flash to no flash because of the camera. Anyway, please don't let my pedantic point of view ruin you purchase. We are very lucky to live in an era where it is very hard to find a bad camera from major manufacturers even if you try. Happy holidays!

I agree - all these cameras (t2i, 60d, nex-5, etc) have very similar raw noise. With noise reduction, in camera or post, all these cameras have very clear ISO 1600 and printable 3200, and if exposed properly 6400 can be used for smaller prints/images. The major difference will be in other areas - focus accuracy and speed, body size, viewfinder, availability of lenses, etc.

[hohohong]

My only thought would be that Canon lenses will be easier to find (secondhand, for example) than Sony lenses. That may not be a concern for you, but it is one reason to go with Canon or Nikon rather than Olympus, Pentax, Sony, etc..

Correct me if I’m wrong. But I read somewhere that you can put Canon or Nikon lense onto NEX with an adapter. Is there quality loss by doing that?

[spiralspirit]

Correct me if I’m wrong. But I read somewhere that you can put Canon or Nikon lense onto NEX with an adapter. Is there quality loss by doing that?

you can physically attach them but you lose the ability to autofocus. Not sure if it has a focus confirmation light or not, but you have to manually focus which makes using older, cheaper, non-autofocus lenses (you can find some great minolta lenses all over for little money) way smarter than buying canon or nikon lenses.

[hohohong]

you can physically attach them but you lose the ability to autofocus. Not sure if it has a focus confirmation light or not, but you have to manually focus which makes using older, cheaper, non-autofocus lenses (you can find some great minolta lenses all over for little money) way smarter than buying canon or nikon lenses.

Ah,… Thanks for the explanation. Besides that, what are the Cons of NEX vs Canon or Nikon? The burst mode for NEX is comparable to Canon or Nikon entry level SLR.

I’ve seen some nice shot of NEX-5:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1042&message=36408244&changemode=1

and I don’t mind chipping $800 for that SEL 18200 lense.

[mintchris]

I went for the Vistek T2i two lens deal for $849. What day do they start shipping this week?

[warrenr]

I went for the Vistek T2i two lens deal for $849. What day do they start shipping this week?

Same here, I ordered mine on the 25th @ 9:45am. I just sent them an email, as I went with the Purolator Express option to get it delivered (supposedly) by tomorrow (the 28th), but my order seems to be in pending still. I'm going to be a little cheesed if it's not here by atleast the end of this week, or the $14.95 extra was for nothing.

[vaporize]

Same here, I ordered mine on the 25th @ 9:45am. I just sent them an email, as I went with the Purolator Express option to get it delivered (supposedly) by tomorrow (the 28th), but my order seems to be in pending still. I'm going to be a little cheesed if it's not here by atleast the end of this week, or the $14.95 extra was for nothing.

everybody is on public holiday (including tomorrow) I think since christmas & boxing day falls on sat & sunday

... except those in retail industries

[warrenr]

everybody is on public holiday (including tomorrow) I think since christmas & boxing day falls on sat & sunday

... except those in retail industries

Bah, just checked Purolator's holiday schedule - they resume their regular operation on Wednesday, closed Jan 1 - 3, regular hours back on Tuesday, January 4.

Hopefully they ship it on Wednesday, that way I should get it Thursday.

[user01]

Any good deals with Canon 7D? I missed boxing day and never got the chance to check out the 7D on sale. Are the deals at FS/BB sold out everywhere?

[pompoco]

Any good deals with Canon 7D? I missed boxing day and never got the chance to check out the 7D on sale. Are the deals at FS/BB sold out everywhere?

PP is your friend as well ;) 7D Body $1399 (http://www.photoprice.ca/slr-camera-kits/#chart-1-2-0)

[warrenr]

apparently we're going to be getting the good news that Vistek is unable to honor their pricing due to a glitch on their website (it was supposed to be limited quanties). I just called up their web sales people and apparently there should be an email going out this afternoon stating that they're unable to honor their pricing and will be cancelling the orders.

This was apparently a decision by Senior Management, as the lovely lady that I spoke to in web sales said this was out of her control.

If this is true - hopefully Vistek steps up to make this right, i'm going to be absolutely pissed. All of the other camera deals are dead now, and we're basically screwed.

Feel free to call them up and get the scoop/complain. I had asked to speak to a manager, but it went straight to voicemail (surprise).

Their number:

1-888-365-1777 Option 6 then 3 for web sales.

Boo on Vistek.

[Uberclk]

I was at Vistek last night and yes there was a glitch in their system as they couldn't even honour their own $300 off pricing for a package deal. wanted me to paid the full price and refund $300 next day. waited around 20 mins and finally fixed it. not sure what they did or if it was the same for a PM, but what I was trying to get was their own advertised special and they had problems with even that...

[doggonefunny]

apparently we're going to be getting the good news that Vistek is unable to honor their pricing due to a glitch on their website (it was supposed to be limited quanties). I just called up their web sales people and apparently there should be an email going out this afternoon stating that they're unable to honor their pricing and will be cancelling the orders.

This was apparently a decision by Senior Management, as the lovely lady that I spoke to in web sales said this was out of her control.

If this is true - hopefully Vistek steps up to make this right, i'm going to be absolutely pissed. All of the other camera deals are dead now, and we're basically screwed.

Feel free to call them up and get the scoop/complain. I had asked to speak to a manager, but it went straight to voicemail (surprise).

Their number:

1-888-365-1777 Option 6 then 3 for web sales.

Boo on Vistek.




I hope this is not the final outcome

I had called to follow up on my order as well-wasn't given this information-but was told VISTEK did not have the packages and were talking to Canon.

I don't NEED this package but will be Pissed if I don't get to buy something similar at a good price-I've already purchased another Canon lens and turned down a couple of good deals.If this doesn't come thru I will be just as pissed at CANON as I will at VISTEK

[warrenr]

I hope this is not the final outcome

I had called to follow up on my order as well-wasn't given this information-but was told VISTEK did not have the packages and were talking to Canon.

I don't NEED this package but will be Pissed if I don't get to buy something similar at a good price-I've already purchased another Canon lens and turned down a couple of good deals.If this doesn't come thru I will be just as pissed at CANON as I will at VISTEK

The lady said that they had called canon this morning and asked for additional packages, but Canon said no. Maybe they've changed their mind. I called another place that happens to be located in Toronto (Merkle Camera), they said that they are out of stock, however if you order online they will honor their pricing, which is currently $924.99. Apparently their sale ends tomorrow, so hopefully we have an answer from Vistek prior to that.

I hope Vistek/Canon pulls through or this will be an ugly stain on their businesses, especially since a competitor is honoring their pricing of $924.99 and will be receiving additional stock from Canon.

[mintchris]

The lady said that they had called canon this morning and asked for additional packages, but Canon said no. Maybe they've changed their mind. I called another place that happens to be located in Toronto (Merkle Camera), they said that they are out of stock, however if you order online they will honor their pricing, which is currently $924.99. Apparently their sale ends tomorrow, so hopefully we have an answer from Vistek prior to that.

I hope Vistek/Canon pulls through or this will be an ugly stain on their businesses, especially since a competitor is honoring their pricing of $924.99 and will be receiving additional stock from Canon.

Which package are we talking about? I ordered the T2i deal with 2 lenses for $849.

[warrenr]

Which package are we talking about? I ordered the T2i deal with 2 lenses for $849.

That would be the one.

[mintchris]

That would be the one.

Thats garbage!!!I will be pissed if they cancel the orders!
It is available to purchase right now for $949 so they should honour the sale price and get them to us.
Do we know for sure there is no chance of them coming thru for us?

[warrenr]

They just cancelled my order. This is an absolutely horrible company, waiting until now to cancel the order, without even sending an email when they were made aware of the mistake (on Monday) shows a huge lack of customer service on their part.



To our Valued Customer,
We regret to inform you that Vistek received an unprecedented response to our Boxing Day Blow-out sale for the T2i kit T2i w/18-55 IS & 55-255 IS Lens ( Web Code 251737). This particular offer was a "Door Crasher" sale with limited quantities on a first come first serve basis and we are now completely SOLD OUT and there is no additional stock available to supply the demand we have received. ,

Your order has been cancelled and no charges have been applied to your method of payment.

Customer service is our number one priority at Vistek. We realize that this has caused an inconvenience to you and offer our most heart-felt apology.

Please let us know if there is anything else we can help you with.

Thank you for your interest in www.vistek.ca.
Order ID: xxxxxx
Order Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010 9:45 AM
Current Status: Cancelled

[gin]

Thats garbage!!!I will be pissed if they cancel the orders!
It is available to purchase right now for $949 so they should honour the sale price and get them to us.
Do we know for sure there is no chance of them coming thru for us?

I ordered the same package too for $849. I am going to be pissed if they dont honor that price. We shouldnt be paying for their mistakes and incompetency.

[doggonefunny]

I ordered the same package too for $849. I am going to be pissed if they dont honor that price. We shouldnt be paying for their mistakes and incompetency.

Start getting pissed

Just got email-I had ordered stuff as well as package and everything was cancelled

[luckystrike]

I also received the cancellation email from Vistek regarding the Canon T2i package. After reading some bad reviews online about Vistek I had a feeling they wouldn't follow through with the order. Customer service is NOT their number 1 priority.

[trife]

Man I feel for you guys. That is straight bull*****. Heart-felt apology.. whatever.

I might order this set from Merkle Camera. I would rather give them an extra $75.

[warrenr]

What horrible customer service.

Just sent this email in response to the cowardly cancellation email.



Good afternoon,

I called in earlier today to check see the status of my order, and the lovely lady who answered the phone informed me that there was a “glitch with the website”. The Canon T2i w/ 18-55 IS & 55-250 IS lens was a limited quantity boxing day special. Your company realized this error on Monday December 27 (weren’t you open Sunday?) about this problem. Why wouldn’t you send an email to the affected customers informing them that their order *MAY* be cancelled due to lack of stock/web site glitch. Considering this was a boxing day special, and there were other stores offering competitive pricing, it would have allowed your customers the opportunity of choosing a different vendor to fulfill their needs. Instead your company waited until today, 4 days later to inform anyone about this “glitch”.

I can only imagine the amount of frustrated customers that you’ve just created, who will probably never deal with your company again. I’ve dealt with many other businesses who try their hardest to resolve any problems when they arise, because if they don’t, they know the customers will take their business elsewhere. I see on your website that the camera kit (Canon EOS T2i w/ 18-55 IS & 55-250 IS lenses) is still listed for $949.00 ($100 more than the boxing deal special). At first I had thought it was an inventory problem that caused this “glitch”, but since the kit is still available on your website, it can’t be the issue. I would appreciate some feedback on this matter, and an alternative solution from your company.

An extremely disgruntled unhappy ex-customer,

xxxxxxxxxxx

[Ben Doone]

Man I feel for you guys. That is straight bull*****. Heart-felt apology.. whatever.

I might order this set from Merkle Camera. I would rather give them an extra $75.

Thumbs up to Merkle Camera, great service and always willing to price match.

[trife]

What horrible customer service.

Just sent this email in response to the cowardly cancellation email.

Warren good point. If they can't fulfill these orders why is it still available online? I know when they were sold out at $850 they put a notice saying the page was there for "reference only" or something similar.

I wonder what would happen if someone ordered it at the current price. hmm...

[doggonefunny]

Warren good point. If they can't fulfill these orders why is it still available online? I know when they were sold out at $850 they put a notice saying the page was there for "reference only" or something similar.

I wonder what would happen if someone ordered it at the current price. hmm...

I can answer that question-And you won't be surprised at the answer!

Still willing to sell it to me for $949 HAHAHA And no I'm not kidding

Time for the RFD EFFECT- Everyone take back whatever they bought this week however good the price-see if they pull this CRAP again.

I had intended to go to the store this week to pick up a bag,filters and flash------Not now

[skahane]

Also received my email today about my Canon T2i package from Vistek. It is absolutely unacceptable for them to just unilaterally cancel all our orders. I also just spoke to the websales department who gave me the same bs story. I then went on to speak to a manager at the store. I actually got to speak with someone who basically said what we all now know. A glitch in the system, allowing "doorcrasher" sales to continue online that overwhelmed their stock. There was a $300 Canon discount and $100 Vistek discount. Apparently they cannot get any more supply of the camera at that price from Canon. He actually called me back at home after he checked on supply. I give them that credit. No T2i's available until February now and by that time the $300 Canon discount will no longer be applied. He was "willing" to maintain the $100 Vistek discount then. He acknowledged my frustration but said their hands were tied.

Total crap. It is about time that Vistek steps up to the plate and honor their commitments to its customers. What terrible pr! Why would anyone shop at or recommend Vistek? They seem to believe that a simple apology will make any difference. There is no way any of us can now obtain this camera package because it is likely sold out everywhere by now. What a total lack of customer service. I purchased the camera online on the Dec 25th. It is now the 29th and we are all just finding out about this now. Awful.

I urged the manager to read this blog and see what their decision is doing to Vistek's reputation. I hope they will respond to our outcries and urge everyone effected to call Vistek to complain. I want their phones to be ringing for days. If enough people overwhelm their phones, maybe someone in upper management will listen. Do not accept just the lovely person in websales. Demand to speak to a manager. Who is Vistek's "upper management" anyway? Like many of you...I'm PISSED! Can you tell?

[luckystrike]

So I guess they lied when they said they were completely SOLD OUT with no additional stock ... That's really showing number 1 priority to customer service ...

wetsnot, for the sake of the RFD community, please never post any items sold by Vistek at the top of this thread. They are the "MDG Computers" of camera stores.

[katwittfan]

I bought a D90 body from Lozeau in Quebec for $699 and it comes with a nice $100 roots bag and free shipping! Broadway and a couple others in Ontario were slightly cheaper but no bag or free shipping and Broadway wanted $30 to ship it across Georgia Strait! for Kryst sake. I then bought a 50mm 1.8 from Mem-ex for $129 FS. My final camera related purchase was a tripod, 8gig class 10,hoya filter and a 55-200 VR from amazon.com (U.S.) for $259 all in amerifriend delivered. Amazon did have an error on their site allowing 2 25% coupons to be stacked on tripods which I took advantage of. I almost bought something from Vistek and I am sorry to hear that so many are getting reemed on this Boxing Week sale.

[Hugh Jass]

-1 for Vistek.

If any vistek rep is reading this, you've made a huge mistake. Any google search for a vistek review will show this thread and lose you LOTS of business.

Good riddance.

[swansong]

Got my t2i order cancellation email from Vistek today as well. This was my first (and last) time dealing with them. I'll phone them tomorrow, but don't expect much.
The only logical recourse is to ensure that canceling my order costs them an order of magnitude more than honouring it would have.
I'll certainly be sharing my experience as widely as possible ... hope the bastards go out of business!

[qhdyl]

Got my t2i order cancellation email from Vistek today as well. This was my first (and last) time dealing with them. I'll phone them tomorrow, but don't expect much.
The only logical recourse is to ensure that canceling my order costs them an order of magnitude more than honouring it would have.
I'll certainly be sharing my experience as widely as possible ... hope the bastards go out of business!

+1

Same cancellation here.

[nearfantastica]

This vistek garbage is PURE bs. Either they have stock or they don't. They're willing to sell at an increased price? Make calls to the BBB, spread this word high and wide. It's going to cost them a lot more than the t2i packages.

[sunchaser53]

Finally have enough credit to buy this one, but it's sold out at every BB now. :evil:

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-rebel-t1i-15-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-lens-and-accessory-kit-t1/10159372.aspx?path=a2e87e0d0f8c3dec16575a8ddcadde0 5en02

Any recommendation where to get it cheap then? Thanks...

[typer100]

Finally have enough credit to buy this one, but it's sold out at every BB now. :evil:

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-rebel-t1i-15-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-lens-and-accessory-kit-t1/10159372.aspx?path=a2e87e0d0f8c3dec16575a8ddcadde0 5en02

Any recommendation where to get it cheap then? Thanks...

Henry's has the T1i with the kit lens+75-300mm for 649$. There's also a Paypal coupon for free shipping and 20$ off.
http://www.henrys.ca/Shop-With-PayPal-at-Henrys.aspx

[jande9]

Some of the boxing week deals are amazing, like the T1i body for $399. at Lens and Shutter. They are blowing it out because it is a year old and it is done.

The whole digital camera market seems to be built on planned obsolescence. The latest model comes out, you sell the crap out of it while you can, and then a new one comes out a year later and you do it all over again.

I have spent more money on digital cameras than I ever spent on film cameras, and I shot a Leica and several Rollei 35's. These cameras were old but took every bit as good pictures as a brand new one would. Cameras these days are like film in the old days, except you could get the latest emulsion for 10 bucks instead of 800 bucks.

My newest digital is a 3 year old 6mp SLR and it is seriously out of date but I have stopped buying cameras until things start to plateau out. Every year it seems that they can't make them any better and yet the next year they are better, and you don't want last years model so they sell for huge discounts. Perhaps the T2i is approaching the point where image quality is going to be hard to improve and it will have a longer life.

I was so tempted by the T1i, cheaper even than most stuff on Craigslist, but I am going to stay out of the new camera lust game until I can feel that my purchase will be more lasting. Besides, my old Pentax takes great pix and the images make excellent 11X14's, even with modest cropping.

[LonesomeDove]

Why is everyone so hard on Vistek when NCIX does it all the time with its weekly doorcrashers?

Once the item at NCIX sells out its door crasher price, it reverts to the regular price. Let say they had 100 units at that special price but 200 in stock. So when all 100 of the item alloted for the sale is used up, it is back to the original price. It still shows stock but not at the special price. I suspect this is what happened at Vistek. Only they did not correct their webpage. The programmers at Vistek messed up.

[kwk1]

The whole digital camera market seems to be built on planned obsolescence. The latest model comes out, you sell the crap out of it while you can, and then a new one comes out a year later and you do it all over again.

My newest digital is a 3 year old 6mp SLR and it is seriously out of date but I have stopped buying cameras until things start to plateau out. Every year it seems that they can't make them any better and yet the next year they are better, and you don't want last years model so they sell for huge discounts. Perhaps the T2i is approaching the point where image quality is going to be hard to improve and it will have a longer life.

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I agree with your thoughts on obsolescence in digital cameras for the most part.
The prosumer/pro models are the ones that have a longer shelf life. These are good for about three years till they get updates. Models like the Canon 5D Mark II, 7D, and the Nikon D300s, D700, D3s and D3x will of course cost you anywhere from $1400-$8000, so I'd hope they wouldn't be updated every year, lol! :)

[typer100]

Some of the boxing week deals are amazing, like the T1i body for $399. at Lens and Shutter. They are blowing it out because it is a year old and it is done.

The whole digital camera market seems to be built on planned obsolescence. The latest model comes out, you sell the crap out of it while you can, and then a new one comes out a year later and you do it all over again.

I have spent more money on digital cameras than I ever spent on film cameras, and I shot a Leica and several Rollei 35's. These cameras were old but took every bit as good pictures as a brand new one would. Cameras these days are like film in the old days, except you could get the latest emulsion for 10 bucks instead of 800 bucks.

My newest digital is a 3 year old 6mp SLR and it is seriously out of date but I have stopped buying cameras until things start to plateau out. Every year it seems that they can't make them any better and yet the next year they are better, and you don't want last years model so they sell for huge discounts. Perhaps the T2i is approaching the point where image quality is going to be hard to improve and it will have a longer life.

I was so tempted by the T1i, cheaper even than most stuff on Craigslist, but I am going to stay out of the new camera lust game until I can feel that my purchase will be more lasting. Besides, my old Pentax takes great pix and the images make excellent 11X14's, even with modest cropping.

After the full 30fps HD video, I don't see what is waiting around the corner. Sony has already taken a step in one direction with the A33&A55. Not sure if they will all follow. Sony has some kind of history for going their own way.

[typer100]

Some of the boxing week deals are amazing, like the T1i body for $399. at Lens and Shutter. They are blowing it out because it is a year old and it is done.

The whole digital camera market seems to be built on planned obsolescence. The latest model comes out, you sell the crap out of it while you can, and then a new one comes out a year later and you do it all over again.

I have spent more money on digital cameras than I ever spent on film cameras, and I shot a Leica and several Rollei 35's. These cameras were old but took every bit as good pictures as a brand new one would. Cameras these days are like film in the old days, except you could get the latest emulsion for 10 bucks instead of 800 bucks.

My newest digital is a 3 year old 6mp SLR and it is seriously out of date but I have stopped buying cameras until things start to plateau out. Every year it seems that they can't make them any better and yet the next year they are better, and you don't want last years model so they sell for huge discounts. Perhaps the T2i is approaching the point where image quality is going to be hard to improve and it will have a longer life.

I was so tempted by the T1i, cheaper even than most stuff on Craigslist, but I am going to stay out of the new camera lust game until I can feel that my purchase will be more lasting. Besides, my old Pentax takes great pix and the images make excellent 11X14's, even with modest cropping.

After the full 30fps HD video, I don't see what is waiting around the corner. Sony has already taken a step in one direction with the A33&A55. Not sure if they will all follow. Sony has some kind of history for going their own way.

[luckystrike]

Why is everyone so hard on Vistek when NCIX does it all the time with its weekly doorcrashers?

Once the item at NCIX sells out its door crasher price, it reverts to the regular price. Let say they had 100 units at that special price but 200 in stock. So when all 100 of the item alloted for the sale is used up, it is back to the original price. It still shows stock but not at the special price. I suspect this is what happened at Vistek. Only they did not correct their webpage. The programmers at Vistek messed up.


We are hard on them because of how they dealt with the situation. They say customer service is their number one priority but have pretty much treated us like dirt. At least with the NCIX "door crashers" they fully advertise how many units are up for sale. Vistek left us in the dark the whole time. I personally think they tried to do a bait and switch on us. They never intended to sell the T2i kit for the price advertised and are trying to get us to pay the $949 price now.

[buckawheat]

Why is everyone so hard on Vistek when NCIX does it all the time with its weekly doorcrashers?

Once the item at NCIX sells out its door crasher price, it reverts to the regular price. Let say they had 100 units at that special price but 200 in stock. So when all 100 of the item alloted for the sale is used up, it is back to the original price. It still shows stock but not at the special price. I suspect this is what happened at Vistek. Only they did not correct their webpage. The programmers at Vistek messed up.

NCIX doesn't show a false price, let you order which keeps you from looking at sales from the competition and then cancel the order 4 days later, you know at the time of purchase that you got it or you didn't. This is horrible customer service by Vistek - I won't be going back there for any purchases as this is pretty dirty.

[ans2]

......The whole digital camera market seems to be built on planned obsolescence. ........

I have spent more money on digital cameras than I ever spent on film cameras, and I shot a Leica ....

My newest digital is a 3 year old 6mp SLR and it is seriously out of date but I have stopped buying cameras until things start to plateau out. Every year it seems that they can't make them any better and yet the next year they are better, and you don't want last years model so they sell for huge discounts. Perhaps the T2i is approaching the point where image quality is going to be hard to improve and it will have a longer life ......

There is some truth to what you say. I treat my lenses as a longer term investment and the camera body as disposable. Really, it is just about the pictures. The new camera bodies allow you to take pictures that you would not have been able to take in the past.

If you think your 3 year old 6mp SLR is seriously out of date, then you should see what I use. My camera is the old Nikon F90X (film). Really quite an amazing camera for its time. I bought a Nikon D300 that I gave to my son and a D90 for my wife. My last purchase was a Nikon f2.8 70-200 mm VR1 lens that set me back around $1700. The replacement is about $2000. But I expect that lens to be a long time keeper.

Digital camera bodies are much like computers. In essence, the brains of the digital camera is a computer chip that processes all the digital information.

[dirkpitt]

I finally pulled the trigger yesterday and bought a Canon 60D kit with the 18-200mm lens from the Camera Store (https://www.thecamerastore.com/products/cameras/digital-cameras/digital-slr-cameras/canon-eos-60d-18-200mm-f35-56) for $1,299. More than I meant to pay, but figured that if I'm going to be serious about getting some excellent pictures, it's worth a few hundred bucks more...

For awhile I considered the multi-lens Nikon D3100 kit, but although it films in 1080p, it doesn't use autofocus. The initial focus is auto, and the rest is tracked manually. The rep in the store showed me some pretty intense apparatus that was used to make that commercial that was filmed entirely with the D3100... which was one of the cheapest pieces of equipment used! Also, I found the AF on the D3100 to have some pretty severe lag. Top it all off with the small chassis, I just couldn't go there.

[luke]

Ouch...
I was planning to buy a 24mm 1.4 L lens tomorrow from Vistek since it's 'in stock' there..
But I think I'll just order it through The Camera Store and wait the week or two it'll take for it to come in...

[bumjubeo]

This vistek garbage is PURE bs. Either they have stock or they don't. They're willing to sell at an increased price? Make calls to the BBB, spread this word high and wide. It's going to cost them a lot more than the t2i packages.

I just got a response from the BBB on this. Vistek is not at fault for this apparently.....the BBB's response to me was that if the seller believes the product can not be shipped within 30 days they can cancel the order and refund even if you have recieved the confirmation.

Let alone the fact that if you check your confirmation email, the orders are not binding upon Vistek until accepted by Vistek.


Price and Payment Terms.
Your total price for the products will be stated on your purchase receipt. Payment for the products must be made by credit card (Visa, MasterCard or American Express). Orders are not binding upon Vistek until accepted by Vistek. Any price quotations given by Vistek will be valid for the period stated on the quotation, with the exception that Vistek reserves the right to reject any sale for any reason, including for a misprint in the price quotation or advertisement. Prices advertised do not include shipping and handling or applicable sales taxes, which will be added.


Total Garbage! I think Merkle may be getting my money as I would rather pay the extra $75 than get screwed around with this.

[darklord700]

After the full 30fps HD video, I don't see what is waiting around the corner. Sony has already taken a step in one direction with the A33&A55. Not sure if they will all follow. Sony has some kind of history for going their own way.

I don't think SLT will affect Canon/Nikon's strategy a whole lot. Besides video auto focusing, the only other benefit of SLT is faster burst rate which makes a good marketing point but hardly required or practical. And no matter how transparent the SLT mirror is, it still wastes a bit of light which cannot be a good thing in low light situation.

What Canon/Nikon should be aware of is the emergence of the EVIL cameras. If they play their cards wrong, the current T2i segment could be taken away by the EVILs.

[Flymeaway]

I finally pulled the trigger yesterday and bought a Canon 60D kit with the 18-200mm lens from the Camera Store (https://www.thecamerastore.com/products/cameras/digital-cameras/digital-slr-cameras/canon-eos-60d-18-200mm-f35-56) for $1,299. More than I meant to pay, but figured that if I'm going to be serious about getting some excellent pictures, it's worth a few hundred bucks more...

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$1248.88 at ME
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX30333%28ME%29.aspx?curtab=2

[jande9]

After the full 30fps HD video, I don't see what is waiting around the corner. Sony has already taken a step in one direction with the A33&A55. Not sure if they will all follow. Sony has some kind of history for going their own way.

Real HD is 60fps so I guess there is still some way to go. Sigh.

[canuckkat]

What I don't get is why someone would buy a DSLR just to shoot 1080i/p video (as opposed to using the DSLR as a camera and occaisonally shooting video). Shouldn't you be buying a video camera instead if you only want to shoot HD video?

[tienm23]

What I don't get is why someone would buy a DSLR just to shoot 1080i/p video (as opposed to using the DSLR as a camera and occaisonally shooting video). Shouldn't you be buying a video camera instead if you only want to shoot HD video?

The 5DII with the right software and hardware are incredible video cameras (comparable to $130K cameras)

Link: (http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Lantern_Firmware_Wiki)


Why not just buy a video camera?
If you can find a video camera that a) shoots HD, b) has a 50 mbps data rate, c) has interchangable lenses, d) has a 35 mm or larger sensor and e) costs less than $150k (without lenses, like the CineAlta F35), then buy that one instead. There are limitations to shooting movies on a 5D Mark II, notably the limited 12 minute recording time and lack of balanced audio inputs, but a ArriCam Lite only records 5 minutes of Super 35 and a high quality preamp like the juicedLink CX231 provides balanced inputs. The lack of auto-focus in movie mode isn't a problem either -- movies are focused manually with a follow-focus like the Cinevate Durus.

[dirkpitt]

$1248.88 at ME
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX30333%28ME%29.aspx?curtab=2Thanks for the heads up... just the same, I don't mind paying the extra 50 bucks for the extra perks; a free 3 hour introductory course to DSLR, not to mention the service.

Don't get me wrong... I trust ME with my PC and electronics, but for a camera I feel safer with these guys.

[Blitzo]

Aden has the Nikkor AF-S VR II 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 IF-ED (better lens than the 55-300, 70-300mm has MUCH faster focus, slightly better image throughout the range) and can be used on a full-frame body too for $394.99.

http://www.adencamera.com/prod-overview.asp?ProdID=1588&Category=7

PM at bestbuy (I think its the same lens) selling for $519.99.

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/nikon-af-s-vr-zoom-nikkor-70-300mm-zoom-lens/10085608.aspx?path=562678a035608a1180447bf5effbcd1 cen02

($519.99 - $394.99) * 10% = $12

Total comes to $382.99 + tax.

Going to try and do this tomorrow and will let you know how it goes.

[sonic]

Im thinking of buying the Canon rebel XS (IS lens) ....its at Blacks for $479- is this a good price? should i wait & see if it will go down? I know walmart was selling it for less a few months ago but it was not an advertised sale.

what would you do?


:o oh yeah...my budget is under $500-

[darklord700]

Im thinking of buying the Canon rebel XS (IS lens) ....its at Blacks for $479- is this a good price? should i wait & see if it will go down? I know walmart was selling it for less a few months ago but it was not an advertised sale.

what would you do?


:o oh yeah...my budget is under $500-

Not a good deal for the XS as it's 2 generation old. I'm pretty sure if you look around you can get the XSI for the same amount of money.

[sonic]

Not a good deal for the XS as it's 2 generation old. I'm pretty sure if you look around you can get the XSI for the same amount of money.

theres no way....i have been looking at FS...Best buy/ staples/blacks. no luck.

if you find any deals, could you PM me?

Thanks.

[pompoco]

Im thinking of buying the Canon rebel XS (IS lens) ....its at Blacks for $479- is this a good price? ...
:o oh yeah...my budget is under $500-

The price is generally not bad... BUT at the moment you can get the XSi with 18-55IS for $480 at Broadway Camera (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/02582/Canon-EOS-Digital-Rebel-XSi-with-18-55-IS-Kit-price.html).
Same price better body, sadly discontinued by Canon... They probably use up their stock of DIGIC3 CPUs for the XS and have later on only the T1i (DIGIC 4) as cheapest entry level.....
Try to PM the Broadway Camera Price at Blacks or whoever still has stock, otherwise go to Aden they sell it for $500 (eat some KD for a couple days to get the extra $20 ;) ) and have stock.

[superwell]

I don't think SLT will affect Canon/Nikon's strategy a whole lot. Besides video auto focusing, the only other benefit of SLT is faster burst rate which makes a good marketing point but hardly required or practical. And no matter how transparent the SLT mirror is, it still wastes a bit of light which cannot be a good thing in low light situation.

What Canon/Nikon should be aware of is the emergence of the EVIL cameras. If they play their cards wrong, the current T2i segment could be taken away by the EVILs.


It's funny you say that the sony wastes light compared to a slr, but in retrospect it doesn't it just raises the step up 1/3 to make up the diff. I have been trying different camera's over the last few weeks, including the d3100/sony a33/Canon t2i. The Nikon went back within 12 hr's of using it. The movie mode made huge noise within the video while focusing. The pictures were also another thing, both camera's set on M, with the exact same settings and the nikon ALWAYS shot with a higher ISO in low light then the Sony....where's all that wasted light going now? The Canon was great, but on the end it was down to having a camera that was easy to use and provided GREAT photo's..the Sony won hands down. We all have different needs, so what is right for one person isn't for another. I will be bringing back the A33 in trade for a A55 so i have a bit more room to grow with it before it's replaced, but otherwise I love the camera. PLUS all camera's are as good as the lens attached. I must admit the sony kit lens was not bad at all, corner to corner and such, but the zooming ring was nothing to write home about, so I just bought a sigma 17-70 macro and the pictures are amazing..it's amazing what a $450 lens will do on a $600 body...hehe

Oh and as far as the EVIL's taking over, it wont only be them that the larger guys need to worry about. Today people want the latest tech. and easy to use equipment. I opened the Sony box and knew how to use the thing within 1/2hr. The Nikon didn't even include a usb cable in the box to get your pictures off the camera..ya...I know...$1 at the dollar store...for you and I...but for the guy that shops at Henry's or Vistek..it's another $20 investment... which could of been included in the box....

[pompoco]

... I must admit the sony kit lens was not bad at all, corner to corner and such, but the zooming ring was nothing to write home about, so I just bought a sigma 17-70 macro and the pictures are amazing..it's amazing what a $450 lens will do on a $600 body...hehe


Fabulous setup, I like the Sonys myself a lot especially since theyre layout and menues are quite nice. Never got used to nikon as well but love my canon.

As mentioned before there are no bad ones out there anymore. Even the cheapest $350 Canon or $300 Sony WM-clearance -special is able to produce needlesharp images for 8x10 and larger prints which is usually sufficient ;)
We are just really spoiled with features and complaints on a pixel level.....blown up to a 3x2 foot equivalent :lol:

That said the Sigma 17-70/2.8 is an absolut stunning lens and provides a superb IQ for a bargain price (my standard walk around lens apart from the 50/1.8 and 135/2.8SF). On the fixed max aperture the Tamron 17-50/2.8 is another excellent lens for ~$420. Shorter FL but constant AP.

[darklord700]

theres no way....i have been looking at FS...Best buy/ staples/blacks. no luck.

if you find any deals, could you PM me?

Thanks.

http://www.bccamera.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1345

$480 for the XSI with kit lens.

[darklord700]

It's funny you say that the sony wastes light compared to a slr, but in retrospect it doesn't it just raises the step up 1/3 to make up the diff.
The Canon was great, but on the end it was down to having a camera that was easy to use and provided GREAT photo's..the Sony won hands down. We all have different needs, so what is right for one person isn't for another.


It's not just the wasted light but the light has to pass through another mirror to get to the sensor which in theory should degrade the picture. Whether the buyer cares is another question. I agree it all depends on the need of the buyer and absolute picture quality if perhaps not of the highest significance to some people, especially when the largest they are going to print is 4"X6" most of the time.

From an optical point of view, Sony can't touch Canon/Nikon but as a piece of electronic equipment, the SLT A55 has it's place that is largely leveraged on Sony's reputation than SLT's technical merits.

[superwell]

It's not just the wasted light but the light has to pass through another mirror to get to the sensor which in theory should degrade the picture. Whether the buyer cares is another question. I agree it all depends on the need of the buyer and absolute picture quality if perhaps not of the highest significance to some people, especially when the largest they are going to print is 4"X6" most of the time.

From an optical point of view, Sony can't touch Canon/Nikon but as a piece of electronic equipment, the SLT A55 has it's place that is largely leveraged on Sony's reputation than SLT's technical merits.


I must admit..being an optical viewfinder guy..the EVF takes getting used to. If your talking optics..as far as lens..etc...I must say your wrong. The body is one thing attached to a sony kit lens. The sony body attached to a great lens and your optics are matched pixel for pixel.

[hausner]

Warm deal:

BB: Nikon D3100 14.0MP DSLR with AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm VR Lens Kit and 55-200mm Telephoto Zoom Lens - $799.99
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/-/b9001081.aspx?path=4a5afaacaf27197d0a546d70c5a0576 cen02
http://www.bestbuy.ca/multimedia/Products/300x300/B90/B9001/B9001081.jpg

[Nadim]

Sony Nex3 with kit lens for 400$ (380$ with paypal cashback)
http://www.henrys.ca/60520-SONY-ALPHA-NEX-3-W-18-55-OSS-BLACK.aspx

Sony a500 with kit lens for 400$ as well (380$ with cashback)
http://www.henrys.ca/53880-SONY-ALPHA-A500-DSLR-W-18-55-LENS.aspx

[sonic]

http://www.bccamera.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1345

$480 for the XSI with kit lens.

Im in ontario (burlington)

also broadway camera is in BC i believe?

:confused:

[Ozzy]

Sony Nex3 with kit lens for 400$ (380$ with paypal cashback)
http://www.henrys.ca/60520-SONY-ALPHA-NEX-3-W-18-55-OSS-BLACK.aspx

Sony a500 with kit lens for 400$ as well (380$ with cashback)
http://www.henrys.ca/53880-SONY-ALPHA-A500-DSLR-W-18-55-LENS.aspx

Nice finds.

[Nadim]

Nice finds.

Thanks.
I also want to mention that the cashback from paypal ends today.
I was thinking of buying a dslr for a while; finally decided to get the Sony a500. Can't wait to play with it :razz:

[blair7]

finally decided to get the Sony a500. Can't wait to play with it :razz:

Good choice. There are lots of choices of good quality Minolta lenses around for reasonable prices.

Check out Dyxum.com for a great source of advice on Sony stuff.

And welcome to the club (Sony/Minolta that is)

[pompoco]

Im in ontario (burlington)

also broadway camera is in BC i believe?

:confused:

Did you ever hear of canada post/purolator/fedex/ups? they are magically transporting an Item from one location to anoter... ;)
There is also the the possibility to go into a local store and do a so called "price match", that is when you find a local reatiler and ask them to give you the item for the price another store is advertising. Not necessarly cheaper but more convenient and faster.
I don't know how far away you are from the next Aden (http://www.adencamera.com/prod-overview.asp?ProdID=2134), but as I posted earlier (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/dslr-camera-megathread-976343/9/#post12167355)they have stock and selling the Kit for $500...

:lol: :facepalm:

BTW: your location field is empty, so it's very hard to know your location without interfering with your privacy and reading your mind ;)

[LonesomeDove]

Future Shop has the Canon T2i bundle with battery and filter for $808. It is a good deal if you can find it in store since it is OOS online.

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/-/b9001268.aspx?path=ca13d936111bd617976551f0f1d5152 6en02

[jande9]

What I don't get is why someone would buy a DSLR just to shoot 1080i/p video (as opposed to using the DSLR as a camera and occaisonally shooting video). Shouldn't you be buying a video camera instead if you only want to shoot HD video?

I worked in the media centre at the Olympics and there were a lot of video journalists shooting video on their high end Canon SLR's. They clipped viewing screens onto to the hot shoe, attached a good mic and used that for shooting all their items. They cut the stuff on their laptop, firewired the completed item into their station's server and put it to air. It looked great.

The whole process was an eye opener for me. I come from the world of 3 chip professional cameras costing a fortune and these things blew me away.

What video camera can you get with a large sensor and a large selection of excellent lenses, at such a low price compared to the usual prices of professional equipment?

Actually a lot of people were using tiny video cameras and doing the same thing and the quality of those were also amazing.

[sonic]

Did you ever hear of canada post/purolator/fedex/ups? they are magically transporting an Item from one location to anoter... ;)
There is also the the possibility to go into a local store and do a so called "price match", that is when you find a local reatiler and ask them to give you the item for the price another store is advertising. Not necessarly cheaper but more convenient and faster.
I don't know how far away you are from the next Aden (http://www.adencamera.com/prod-overview.asp?ProdID=2134), but as I posted earlier (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/dslr-camera-megathread-976343/9/#post12167355)they have stock and selling the Kit for $500...

:lol: :facepalm:

BTW: your location field is empty, so it's very hard to know your location without interfering with your privacy and reading your mind ;)

oh thanks....i missed the aden link. ive never price matched before...is that allowed if im in burlington & the sale item is in toronto? :o I have no way of getting to T.O. & id rather not order it on-line.

[klutzo]

I worked in the media centre at the Olympics and there were a lot of video journalists shooting video on their high end Canon SLR's. They clipped viewing screens onto to the hot shoe, attached a good mic and used that for shooting all their items. They cut the stuff on their laptop, firewired the completed item into their station's server and put it to air. It looked great.

The whole process was an eye opener for me. I come from the world of 3 chip professional cameras costing a fortune and these things blew me away.

What video camera can you get with a large sensor and a large selection of excellent lenses, at such a low price compared to the usual prices of professional equipment?

Actually a lot of people were using tiny video cameras and doing the same thing and the quality of those were also amazing.

Yeah.. you're talking about the 5D and 7Ds partnered with a good shotgun mic, and a Beachtec or Juicedlink. Folks usually cut on Final Cut Pro with Mac combos. The tiny cams you're referring to ar ethe GO Pros which are pretty decent if you have good light. i.e. olympic events.

[Boardman]

I've done a TON of reading though this thread and via other sources and I'm not sure if I'm more informed or more confused lol. I've been using a 7.2 Mpix Sony Cybershot Ultra Zoom [12X] I bought back in 2006. I'm looking to move to a dslrb and want to get an entry level setup that will get my foot in the dslr door yet not loose what I've become used to with the Cybershot, I would like to shoot some video with the camera but the primary focus will be still photography


The choices I'm looking at are as follows:

Canon EOS Rebel XSi 18-55mm IS Kit $480 [= a zoom lenskjzi?]
http://www.bccamera.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1345

CANON REBEL XS BLACK W/18-55IS & 75-300USM $580
http://www.henrys.ca/31513-CANON-REBEL-XS-BLACK-W-18-55IS-And-75-300USM.aspx

Nikon D3100 14.0MP DSLR with AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm VR Lens Kit and 55-200mm Telephoto Zoom Lens $800
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/-/b9001081.aspx?path=4a5afaacaf27197d0a546d70c5a0576 cen02

Which one of these is the best deal? TIA

[jh1]

After experimenting with HD on my dSLR, I've come to the conclusion that if you just want to capture sharp 1080 video with perfect AF and stereo sound and want everything in the scene to be in focus, all with minimal fuss, you can't beat a point and shoot like the $270 Sony WX5:

Check these out at 1080p:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfO80q-Ac1U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X0YOXdR2pg

I think we're kidding ourselves with low performance dSLR AF and intrusive motor sounds. I can see using dSLR video for creative effects which require manual focus and control over depth of field, but as a replacement for a consumer HD camcorder, a nice HD point and shoot is the way to go. IMO, most non-pro's trying to shoot HD for vacation or family type stuff will end up with far better results using a high quality point and shoot for video. At this time, using a dSLR for general video capture still feels like trying to make a pickup truck handle like a sports car.

[Fimo]

I would like to shoot some video with the camera but the primary focus will be still photography


The choices I'm looking at are as follows:

Canon EOS Rebel XSi 18-55mm IS Kit $480

CANON REBEL XS BLACK W/18-55IS & 75-300USM $580

Nikon D3100 14.0MP DSLR with AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm VR Lens Kit and 55-200mm Telephoto Zoom Lens $800

Which one of these is the best deal? TIA

Out of these 3 I believe only the Nikon does HD Video. The Nikon price seems to be decent based on the package, its the best price from amongst the major retailers that sell that kit.

If video is not a big priority why not consider the A500 as someone posted earlier:

http://www.henrys.ca/53880-SONY-ALPHA-A500-DSLR-W-18-55-LENS.aspx

$399 plus tax, unfortunately the Paypal $20 rebate offer is now expired but its still a decent deal comes to $463.68 with tax and shipping.

[pompoco]

After experimenting with HD on my dSLR, I've come to the conclusion that if you just want to capture sharp 1080 video with perfect AF and stereo sound and want everything in the scene to be in focus, all with minimal fuss, you can't beat a point and shoot like the $270 Sony WX5:

Check these out at 1080p:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfO80q-Ac1U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X0YOXdR2pg

I think we're kidding ourselves with low performance dSLR AF and intrusive motor sounds. I can see using dSLR video for creative effects which require manual focus and control over depth of field, but as a replacement for a consumer HD camcorder, a nice HD point and shoot is the way to go. IMO, most non-pro's trying to shoot HD for vacation or family type stuff will end up with far better results using a high quality point and shoot for video. At this time, using a dSLR for general video capture still feels like trying to make a pickup truck handle like a sports car.

Yes, you're right.
For "standard" family videos the little sensors of the HD-camcorders and P&S are much easier to use and keep evrything in focus, thats why they look like these "cheap" TV productions from a few years ago ;) Don't get me wrong the Quality is amazing and the ease of use and price are really stunning.
That said to get this ease of use on a DSLR is very hard since the sensors are so big and depending on lens and exposure settings the DOF is very shallow so tghat it would even be impossible to get everything in focus. These ones excell in object isolatioon and focal planes with outstanding IQ and bokeh for an unmatched price. Of course that requires some more learning just like with still images on a DSLR. It might take a bit untill they have the "P&S" movie mode on the dial of a DSLR.

[pompoco]

The choices I'm looking at are as follows:

Canon EOS Rebel XSi 18-55mm IS Kit $480 [= a zoom lenskjzi?]
http://www.bccamera.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1345

CANON REBEL XS BLACK W/18-55IS & 75-300USM $580
http://www.henrys.ca/31513-CANON-REBEL-XS-BLACK-W-18-55IS-And-75-300USM.aspx

Nikon D3100 14.0MP DSLR with AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm VR Lens Kit and 55-200mm Telephoto Zoom Lens $800
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/-/b9001081.aspx?path=4a5afaacaf27197d0a546d70c5a0576 cen02

Which one of these is the best deal? TIA

The best deal depends on you and your budget...

Even though I'm a Canon guy myself....

The Nikon 3100 offers you the most features (video wise) and great performance for the price. The Nikon also has a "beginner" mode in which it guides you through the process and after a while you know how to use the manual controls. Neat feature but OTOH take a pocket guide with you and read some (http://www.slrphotographyguide.com/beginner-tips.shtml) tutorials on how photgraphy works (http://www.digital-photography-school.com/digital-photography-tips-for-beginners) ... Quality Nikon lenses are usually more expensive than lenses from the other mainstream companies (except Leica of course ;) )

As someone mentioned above Sony Alpha500 great camera but no video. Menu is Sony so you should be able to get used to it pretty fast and the price is great. You can get lenses pretty cheap and used older minolta lenses are to be had for a steal usually. That said quality glass is not cheap even on Sony...

Skip and remove the XS and T1i from your list. As long as you can get it get the XSi the XS while a very good entry camera misses out on a few features which make the XSi such an outstanding "bargain", 4% spot metering, High precision center focus point with lenses of f/2.8 and faster ("2/3rds" improved focus accuracy). bigger LCD and better CMOS sensor makes this one the best choice comparing features and price. The XS is still an amazing and very capable entry DSLR but at this clearout time the XSi is the best contender for features and price. The T1I would be a great bargain for the $650 sale with 18-55 and 75-300usm (crap sell for $150 after you used it for a while) but that is over now. Only because of the newer processor higher res lcd and rudimentary video capabilities otherwise it's not reeally worth it and the next step up would be the T2i which is feature wise a class higher than the XSi.... and can still be had for $730 with the 18-55 kit lens (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03188/Canon-EOS-Rebel-T2i-with-18-55-IS-Kit-price.html)

As for a Telephoto lens... if you can get one for almost free with the kit go for it, you can sell it after a while and bring down the initial cost a little.
If you really need or want a telephoto but are on a budget, the general consensus is that the Sigma 70-300 APO (http://www.photoprice.ca/search/?s=Sigma+70-300+APO) this one delivers the goods (http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/70-300_4_apo_macro_super_ii) for a bargainprice of $250-$300,
Try to photograph a bit with "fixed" setting (24,28,30,35,50) on your lens to get used to the "standard" focal length and framing/composition after that you can use a tool like exposureplot (http://www.wega2.vandel.nl/) to find out your prefered FLs etc.

Most impotantly! Get into a store and play around with the different cameras to see how you like the feel and handling of it and how the menu system works for you. The XSi has basically the same Body as the XS and can be used if they don't have a XSi in the location.
The best camera is useless if it doesn't feel right for you....

[Boardman]

Thank's to everyone who gave me input on my post - great info presented in a way even I can understand it lol. I'm going to head back to Henry's tomorrow [only had about 10 minutes to spend in store yesterday] and take a better look based on the above. There is also a FS and BB in the area so I'll see what they have as well. I'm in a "target rich environment" right now [new kitten!] but that's also takin' up a ton of my time.

[mcg]

^ Agreed, can't stress how important it is to go in-store to try some models out. You'll get a feel for what you'll like and don't like!

[gottagetta]

This is a great thread. It's going to take me some time to read all the pages. I'm looking for a Canon 7D body to replace my 30D.

[GemInite]

I work in a TV station and a few of us own T2i's which we use for recreational use.

There have been times where we've used the HD movie mode to shoot video and have then used it for broadcast. We feel that it's good enough for broadcast and are contemplating getting a shotgun mic just to keep around the station.

[ukeythrifter]

Henry's has the T1i with the kit lens+75-300mm for 649$. There's also a Paypal coupon for free shipping and 20$ off.
http://www.henrys.ca/Shop-With-PayPal-at-Henrys.aspx


Tried to purchase this online a couple nights ago. The website would not allow me to view it or add it to the checkout. Yesterday they took this deal down off the website. Still don't see it there.

Frantically I zinged over to a Henry's store and not only got the $649 deal, but the wonderful lady working there gave me the $20 online Paypal discount as well ($629 for the whole shabang).



Sidenote, unless you're really wanting the few updates that come with the T2i, the T1i may be a good option for you

[crukkh]

Ordered Sony a500 from Henrys last night, but received no confirmation from them at all (only PayPal email confirming payment). Is this normal? I didn't create an account, just checked out as a guest and forgot to print the confirmation screen.

Would a500 be a significant upgrade to my a330? I believe the sensor is better (less noise) and the cam should be built better overall. Any opinions?

[starchoice]

Best Buy has extended the offer on this camera (sold out online but I'm thinking stores may have stock):

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-rebel-t1i-15-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-lens-and-accessory-kit-t1/10159372.aspx?path=a2e87e0d0f8c3dec16575a8ddcadde0 5en02

How does this offer differ from the Henry's deal on the same camera?

How do the lenses compare?

[pompoco]

Best Buy has extended the offer on this camera (sold out online but I'm thinking stores may have stock):

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-rebel-t1i-15-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-lens-and-accessory-kit-t1/10159372.aspx?path=a2e87e0d0f8c3dec16575a8ddcadde0 5en02

How does this offer differ from the Henry's deal on the same camera?

How do the lenses compare?

The basic kit is the same T1i and 18-55 IS lens.
Henry's put an extra lens into the package for ~$70 the EF 75-300 III USM (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/00059/Canon-EF-75-300mm-f4.0-5.6-III-USM-price.html)which is mediocre at best but can be sold for $150+ since it comes in its own retail box.... and works great as a "training" lens.
Best Buy added a camera bag (LD has a sale for $17 on those) a filter which can be ordered from DX or FP for under $3 shipped and a battery which can be had for ~$5 shipped from amazon obviously BB gives ab OEM battery but they all function the same ;) not to much potential of savings or sales here ...
But thats a moot point now, since the Henry's deal is over and BB has more for $10-$20 less ;)
The T1i accessoire Kit is MSRPd for (overpriced) $105 and carried by Black's and Henry's as well. If you dont value the ~$6 rewordzone points get it PMd at Blacks. they offer an orientation/tutorial for every camera bought (http://www.blacks.ca/blacks/static.jsp?contentID=BlacksDifference)(~1hr) in which they explain the basic functions and works of the DSLR to you. Nothing new if you now what you're doing but could be a great help for newbies...

I have to disagree with the above poster of the "few" improvements of the T2i over the T1i..... The T1i is inferior and basically a b*stard between the models. Looks impressive on paper but you find the limitations of that model very fast. IMHO it's not worth the usual $200+ more than the XSi and rather try to save up to get the vastly superior T2i instead (cheaper in the long run).

[pompoco]

Tried to purchase this online a couple nights ago. The website would not allow me to view it or add it to the checkout. Yesterday they took this deal down off the website. Still don't see it there.

Frantically I zinged over to a Henry's store and not only got the $649 deal, but the wonderful lady working there gave me the $20 online Paypal discount as well ($629 for the whole shabang).



Sidenote, unless you're really wanting the few updates that come with the T2i, the T1i may be a good option for you

I guess you went to the Crossroads location. They're very nice and helpful there, still got the free 8x10 print?
I got my 60D adjusted to $1250 (with 18-200 and Grip ;) ) might put the 18-200 (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/02668/Canon-EF-S-18-200mm-f3.5-5.6-IS-price.html) up on kijiji or usedwpg for $600-$650 since I won't use it and its brand new.... The Grip makes the camera realy chunky but maybe I'll keep it since it came "free" anyways...

I got to disagree with the T1i though... the T2i is a class above it not only a few feats. But for that price the T1i is a wonderfull entry sell the 75-300 for $150-$180 at kijiji and your kit got priced really well for roughly same price as the XSi which is OOS locally.

[starchoice]

What about this one?

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-xs-10-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-18-55mm-dc-lens-75-300mm-dc-lens-and-dslr-bag-xs-dc/10159638.aspx?path=a92b924ac358927112844ea82d52cb4 4en02&lid=fp-10159638-canoncanonxs101mpdigitalslrcam-en

[typer100]

I guess you went to the Crossroads location. They're very nice and helpful there, still got the free 8x10 print?
I got my 60D adjusted to $1250 (with 18-200 and Grip ;) ) might put the 18-200 (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/02668/Canon-EF-S-18-200mm-f3.5-5.6-IS-price.html) up on kijiji or usedwpg for $600-$650 since I won't use it and its brand new.... The Grip makes the camera realy chunky but maybe I'll keep it since it came "free" anyways...

I got to disagree with the T1i though... the T2i is a class above it not only a few feats. But for that price the T1i is a wonderfull entry sell the 75-300 for $150-$180 at kijiji and your kit got priced really well for roughly same price as the XSi which is OOS locally.

DPreview has only the T2i rated 77% vs 74% for the T1i. Mainly on the video feature 30fps 1080p movies vs only 20fps... No offence, but I give their site more credibility when comparing T2i vs T1i.
Also a T2i is almost 50% more expensive.

So, I've finally bought the kit at Henry's with the 75-300mm USM. 660$ shipped. Both lens should bring around 230$. So 430$ for the T1i body is really good.

[Boardman]

What about this one?

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-xs-10-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-18-55mm-dc-lens-75-300mm-dc-lens-and-dslr-bag-xs-dc/10159638.aspx?path=a92b924ac358927112844ea82d52cb4 4en02&lid=fp-10159638-canoncanonxs101mpdigitalslrcam-en

I look at that kit as well. Based on what I could determine neither of the lenses are IS which was a showstopper for me. I know IS doesn't help when shooting motion etc but given this is my first step into dslr photography I decided I want at tleat the 18-55 lens to be IS and if I could get a zoom with IS that would be a bonus for me. Am I wrong on the IS part?

[pompoco]

DPreview has only the T2i rated 77% vs 74% for the T1i. Mainly on the video feature 30fps 1080p movies vs only 20fps... No offence, but I give their site more credibility when comparing T2i vs T1i.
Also a T2i is almost 50% more expensive.

So, I've finally bought the kit at Henry's with the 75-300mm USM. 660$ shipped. Both lens should bring around 230$. So 430$ for the T1i body is really good.

I really hope you say the same in six month. I can only speak from my experience and friends and therefore as usual put my opinion in the posts.

Hell, I just "wasted" $350 extra on a 60D over a T2i for basically the same IQ but the added features (metering, pentaprism, wireless flash transmitter...) were worth it to me for the added convenience.

T2i has better focussing, metering, gapless microlenses (http://gizmodo.com/5470334/giz-explains-why-iso-is-the-new-megapixel) for the sensor (most important difference!), functioning full HD video with controls instead of the "P&S" full automatic mode of the T1i and so on. IMHO the T1i is a neither flesh nor fish and a waste of money if you have to pay over $50 more than for a XSi. With the Henry's deal you could basically bring the price down to the XSi level so there it's a great option for the few improvements but if you pay $200+ more than a standard entry model it's a waste of money.... the T2i is about $200-$250 more ATM.

[starchoice]

I think that the comments posted here need to be qualified with respect to the "value" of these added features. The T2i is, of course, going to be an improvement over the T21, for example. The question is whether that has any real value for the person who just wants to get a good picture. I think that, in most cases, the posters here might be overselling the newer cameras and the people who are looking for a good camera which will just take good pictures should keep this in mind, as well as the ones doing the recommendations.

[Vasyl]

I really hope you say the same in six month. I can only speak from my experience and friends and therefore as usual put my opinion in the posts.

Hell, I just "wasted" $350 extra on a 60D over a T2i for basically the same IQ but the added features (metering, pentaprism, wireless flash transmitter...) were worth it to me for the added convenience.

T2i has better focussing, metering, gapless microlenses (http://gizmodo.com/5470334/giz-explains-why-iso-is-the-new-megapixel) for the sensor (most important difference!), functioning full HD video with controls instead of the "P&S" full automatic mode of the T1i and so on. IMHO the T1i is a neither flesh nor fish and a waste of money if you have to pay over $50 more than for a XSi. With the Henry's deal you could basically bring the price down to the XSi level so there it's a great option for the few improvements but if you pay $200+ more than a standard entry model it's a waste of money.... the T2i is about $200-$250 more ATM.

What do you think about Pentax K-5? Does Pentax have good lenses? Your input would be greatly appreciated.

[typer100]

I really hope you say the same in six month. I can only speak from my experience and friends and therefore as usual put my opinion in the posts.

Hell, I just "wasted" $350 extra on a 60D over a T2i for basically the same IQ but the added features (metering, pentaprism, wireless flash transmitter...) were worth it to me for the added convenience.

T2i has better focussing, metering, gapless microlenses (http://gizmodo.com/5470334/giz-explains-why-iso-is-the-new-megapixel) for the sensor (most important difference!), functioning full HD video with controls instead of the "P&S" full automatic mode of the T1i and so on. IMHO the T1i is a neither flesh nor fish and a waste of money if you have to pay over $50 more than for a XSi. With the Henry's deal you could basically bring the price down to the XSi level so there it's a great option for the few improvements but if you pay $200+ more than a standard entry model it's a waste of money.... the T2i is about $200-$250 more ATM.

Where do you stop the spending... We can go all night long. My camera is better then yours. Obviously the T2i is an evolution, so is the 60D. If money was no object, I would have gone with a full frame, L lenses and a trailer to carry everything :)

I was just replying to people who are trying to convince me that the T2i is a better camera. I seriously hope so, it's 50% more expensive. Do I think it's worth the extra cash? No I don't.

Then you compare it with the XSi. No video capture. That's some serious feature IMO. Worth more than 50$.

Happy holidays.

[typer100]

What do you think about Pentax K-5? Does Pentax have good lenses? Your input would be greatly appreciated.

semi-pro camera. Gold award from dpreview.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk5/

[Vasyl]

semi-pro camera. Gold award from dpreview.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk5/

Thank you. I have read this review and it made me to reconsider my previous decision to buy Nikon D7000. The only question I have is the lenses for Pentax.

[jh1]

I think that the comments posted here need to be qualified with respect to the "value" of these added features. The T2i is, of course, going to be an improvement over the T21, for example. The question is whether that has any real value for the person who just wants to get a good picture. I think that, in most cases, the posters here might be overselling the newer cameras and the people who are looking for a good camera which will just take good pictures should keep this in mind, as well as the ones doing the recommendations.

+1

Given the questions being asked, I really don't think most people even NEED a dSLR. Just because dSLR prices have dropped to affordable levels people all of a sudden think they need one. If we look back a decade and half or so, most people were glad to be rid of their bulky film SLRs from the 80's and were moving to compact 35mm point and shoots. Take this entire consumer segment back in time and it is doubtful they would pick an SLR over a point and shoot if we were still back in those days. It's funny how consumers have such short memories.

[pompoco]

What do you think about Pentax K-5? Does Pentax have good lenses? Your input would be greatly appreciated.

Seems like a great camera, a bit pricy maybe but awesome. The only drawback IMHO is that is body only or with the 18-55 kit.
I don't have any practical experience with this camera so my musings are mostly speculations...

The 18-55 is likely the limiting factor and degrading the posibilities of the Body. So it would be better to get either the 18-135 ED for $550-$600 or go brutal and get the 16-50/2.8 ED for ~$900-$1000 instead. Try and play a bit in the store with the lenses and see how they handle. bring a memorycard and take a lot of pics and check them out later at home. Pentax lens collection is smaler than canikon but they have a great sortiment of "pancake" primes which are very small and great optically.

That said the setup comes at quite a premium $1500 body and $600-$1000 for a lens but would be an absolut high quality setup IMHO...

[pompoco]

Then you compare it with the XSi. No video capture. That's some serious feature IMO. Worth more than 50$.

The video mode (especially full HD) are just a marketing gag since it's so "crippled" on the T1i no microphone input, no manual controls... very rudimentary. The IQ is comparable between the XSi and T1i with the T1i having a few advantages over the XSi. Mainly the higher res lcd, vignetting correction in camera, higher ISO but that's about it. As I said before my pick would be the XSi as it is a great camera for a great price, since it'[s no longer producesd the T1i will take over its place once the price comes down to the same level (a no-brainer with the Henry's deal). The T2i would be the next step up into the "more serious segment". Now with the XSi gone and only the XS as starter camera the borders are even more defined since they need to have a $ gap between the XS, T1i T2i etc.... The XS is very capable and works great as an entry level DSLR and for the money "saved" over the T1i you could get a HD camcorder which would work even easier for the "typical" videoclips in the entry segment. In my opinion the T1i is just not placed right since it is somewhat an upgrade but not enough to keep you going for a while until you reach the limitations (video that is).

But I can't stretch it enough that it all depends on the feel has for him/herself when playing with the different models in the store and balancing features/wants/needs/budget...

[Vasyl]

Seems like a great camera, a bit pricy maybe but awesome. The only drawback IMHO is that is body only or with the 18-55 kit.
I don't have any practical experience with this camera so my musings are mostly speculations...

The 18-55 is likely the limiting factor and degrading the posibilities of the Body. So it would be better to get either the 18-135 ED for $550-$600 or go brutal and get the 16-50/2.8 ED for ~$900-$1000 instead. Try and play a bit in the store with the lenses and see how they handle. bring a memorycard and take a lot of pics and check them out later at home. Pentax lens collection is smaler than canikon but they have a great sortiment of "pancake" primes which are very small and great optically.

That said the setup comes at quite a premium $1500 body and $600-$1000 for a lens but would be an absolut high quality setup IMHO...

Thank you. Very helpful. I will buy in the US as always. I wanted to buy a Pentax Normal SMCP-FA 50mm f/1.4 Autofocus Lens with the body but you sugested 16-50, which is $749 and pretty heavy as all telephotos. Pershaps I should buy two of them as I travel to Europe and I like to take a lot of pictures. Thank you again.

[ss7]

Hey guys, cant say I have been following camera trends and news releases. But I have been thinking about upgrading my crappy 6 year old 20D for quite some time now.

Can anyone tell me if its a good time to get my hands on 7D or whether there is a new replacement around the corner?

[brutal]

+1

Given the questions being asked, I really don't think most people even NEED a dSLR. Just because dSLR prices have dropped to affordable levels people all of a sudden think they need one. If we look back a decade and half or so, most people were glad to be rid of their bulky film SLRs from the 80's and were moving to compact 35mm point and shoots. Take this entire consumer segment back in time and it is doubtful they would pick an SLR over a point and shoot if we were still back in those days. It's funny how consumers have such short memories.

It is true. Having a dslr is part of fashion. Things just comes in full circles.

[LonesomeDove]

+1

Given the questions being asked, I really don't think most people even NEED a dSLR. Just because dSLR prices have dropped to affordable levels people all of a sudden think they need one. If we look back a decade and half or so, most people were glad to be rid of their bulky film SLRs from the 80's and were moving to compact 35mm point and shoots. Take this entire consumer segment back in time and it is doubtful they would pick an SLR over a point and shoot if we were still back in those days. It's funny how consumers have such short memories.

The SLRs from the 1960's, 1970's, and 1980's were far different form the new digital SLRs. You can't really compare them to modern cameras. The old type of SLRs were difficult to use; no LCD screens, you had to open up to manually load film. You can't program them, have to adust f-stops, just plain complicated compared to new cameras. Buying the many different type of films was a nightmare. I hated loading film, you had to put them in the sprockets.

Remember Kodachrome? Well, just heard on the news, the latest processing plant in the world closed recently. Does anyone still use film?

People moved to point and shoot because they were so easy to use compared to clucky mechanical SLRs. Now that SLRs are digitalized and have more features like video and are so easy to use, no wonder people are moving back to SLRs. Plus they have better picture quality than msot point and shoot cameras.

[jande9]

+1

Given the questions being asked, I really don't think most people even NEED a dSLR. Just because dSLR prices have dropped to affordable levels people all of a sudden think they need one. If we look back a decade and half or so, most people were glad to be rid of their bulky film SLRs from the 80's and were moving to compact 35mm point and shoots. Take this entire consumer segment back in time and it is doubtful they would pick an SLR over a point and shoot if we were still back in those days. It's funny how consumers have such short memories.

It's a hobby. People like to argue about the latest must have features and basically invisible differences in picture quality. It's all part of the fun of ownership. If it was just about taking pictures most people would be happy with any 8 meg slr with a kit lens.

Anyways I'm not sure P&S digitals are really good enough yet to compare with slr's. My daughter has an almost new 10 meg P&S but my 7 year old 6 meg slr takes much better pictures.

[bubble.tea]

+1

Given the questions being asked, I really don't think most people even NEED a dSLR. Just because dSLR prices have dropped to affordable levels people all of a sudden think they need one. If we look back a decade and half or so, most people were glad to be rid of their bulky film SLRs from the 80's and were moving to compact 35mm point and shoots. Take this entire consumer segment back in time and it is doubtful they would pick an SLR over a point and shoot if we were still back in those days. It's funny how consumers have such short memories.
You said it!!

thanked.

...The old type of SLRs were difficult to use; no LCD screens, you had to open up to manually load film. You can't program them, have to adust f-stops, just plain complicated compared to new cameras. Buying the many different type of films was a nightmare. I hated loading film, you had to put them in the sprockets. ...

People moved to point and shoot because they were so easy to use compared to clucky mechanical SLRs. Now that SLRs are digitalized and have more features like video and are so easy to use, no wonder people are moving back to SLRs. Plus they have better picture quality than msot point and shoot cameras.
lmao...you make it sound like it was a grandiose accomplishment using those slrs...haaaaa. sprockets...hehe yeah, those where the days.

You can't deny what jh1 mentioned. I would say 90% of consumers don't need an SLR., it's just a genius revitalization by the photography manufacturers that has been successful.

Sincerely., other than aperture priority and that sorta stuff...how much 'better' of a photo does an SLR take over the Medium to High end point and shoots of today? I'm not saying to the eye of a pro photographer., I'm saying to the eye of Mom & Dad & Grandpa? I can't believe they're noticeably better....are they?

[darklord700]

You said it!!
You can't deny what jh1 mentioned. I would say 90% of consumers don't need an SLR., it's just a genius revitalization by the photography manufacturers that has been successful.

Sincerely., other than aperture priority and that sorta stuff...how much 'better' of a photo does an SLR take over the Medium to High end point and shoots of today? I'm not saying to the eye of a pro photographer., I'm saying to the eye of Mom & Dad & Grandpa? I can't believe they're noticeably better....are they?

I agree the manufacturer successfully planted the seed that DSLR equals high quality pictures. The advice I give to people is if you don't want to change lenses, stick to high end POS. To me, pairing a 60D with 18-55 kit lens doesn't make sense but you still see some people do it. And POS gives you more zoom anyway.

[Duuuuude]

Sincerely., other than aperture priority and that sorta stuff...how much 'better' of a photo does an SLR take over the Medium to High end point and shoots of today? I'm not saying to the eye of a pro photographer., I'm saying to the eye of Mom & Dad & Grandpa? I can't believe they're noticeably better....are they?

I recently made the switch from my DSLR-sized Fujifilm S6000fd point-and-shoot to a T2i and the difference (when you use manual settings and get a good shot) is huge. I thought my old camera took great pics, but I've taken amazing shots of everything from my Christmas tree to my kids' hockey, including incredible video (which needs a little babysitting, but not much). Even my wife has commented on how amazing some of the pictures and video look, and she usually doesn't say much.

That said, if someone has their DSLR on full auto with a blaring flash all the time, then it is a little more difficult to tell the difference with a decent point-and-shoot and those people probably shouldn't be wasting several hundred dollars on a DSLR. :)

[jh1]

I recently made the switch from my DSLR-sized Fujifilm S6000fd point-and-shoot to a T2i and the difference (when you use manual settings and get a good shot) is huge. I thought my old camera took great pics, but I've taken amazing shots of everything from my Christmas tree to my kids' hockey, including incredible video (which needs a little babysitting, but not much). Even my wife has commented on how amazing some of the pictures and video look, and she usually doesn't say much.

That said, if someone has their DSLR on full auto with a blaring flash all the time, then it is a little more difficult to tell the difference with a decent point-and-shoot and those people probably shouldn't be wasting several hundred dollars on a DSLR. :)

I don't think that's a useful comparison to begin with. I owned a couple of Fuji digicams back in the day when 3Mp was 'bleeding edge' technology. Fuji's claim to fame was the SuperCCD sensor that would give enhanced resolution from the layout of the receptors on the sensor. They kind of lost their way with image quality as the megapixel wars crept up because SuperCCD produced too many artifacts. In recent times, the only remaining advantage claimed by Fuji, high ISO performance, has now been surpassed by other makers.

Bottom line it that you didn't have to upgrade all the way to a dSLR to see huge improvements in image quality from your 2006 Fuji...one of the premium non-dSLRs like a Canon S95 or Panasonic LX5 would have done the trick. Much has improved with point and shoots since 2006.

[just_For_ipod]

I agree the manufacturer successfully planted the seed that DSLR equals high quality pictures. The advice I give to people is if you don't want to change lenses, stick to high end POS. To me, pairing a 60D with 18-55 kit lens doesn't make sense but you still see some people do it. And POS gives you more zoom anyway.

DSLR does not equal high quality pictures, that I would agree on because you'd have to come up with what you define as "high quality", etc, etc,.

Now, I will say that a DSLR will give highER quality pictures than POS. For the simplest reason, DSLRs have larger sensors which means your camera will "capture more".
Not saying that size is the only thing that matters, but when the sensor size is 10-20 times larger than a POS camera, it's definitely the biggest difference. Bigger sensor, means more light, means less grainy pictures. (Ever get those pictures where it looks like someone threw rice at it? That.)

But of course to those who don't want to change lenses, they should definitely stick to high end POS.
In fact,
if you don't want to lug around a camera as heavy as a brick,
you don't want to spend that much, <----me, but I just want ONE!:cry:
you plan on sharing it(costly if someone breaks that $1k up DSLR of yours),
you plan on using the LCD screen as the viewfinder(you can't),
and probably a lot of other reasons,
DON"T get a DSLR.

Otherwise, if you want good pictures, go ahead, get a DSLR. And while you're at it, get me one too ;)

[jh1]

The SLRs from the 1960's, 1970's, and 1980's were far different form the new digital SLRs. You can't really compare them to modern cameras. The old type of SLRs were difficult to use; no LCD screens, you had to open up to manually load film. You can't program them, have to adust f-stops, just plain complicated compared to new cameras. Buying the many different type of films was a nightmare. I hated loading film, you had to put them in the sprockets.

Remember Kodachrome? Well, just heard on the news, the latest processing plant in the world closed recently. Does anyone still use film?

People moved to point and shoot because they were so easy to use compared to clucky mechanical SLRs. Now that SLRs are digitalized and have more features like video and are so easy to use, no wonder people are moving back to SLRs. Plus they have better picture quality than most point and shoot cameras.

People moved away from heavy, clunky film SLRs to point and shoots for the compact size and convenience. Your argument falls apart because most of these people buying dSLRs today say they want the manual controls like setting f-stops and shutter speeds etc. (or so they claim). So why is it in the 80's people moved away from SLRs because they were difficult to use, but today it has become a fad to claim that they want to go back to the complications of manual settings?

[jh1]

Now, I will say that a DSLR will give highER quality pictures than POS. For the simplest reason, DSLRs have larger sensors which means your camera will "capture more".
Not saying that size is the only thing that matters, but when the sensor size is 10-20 times larger than a POS camera, it's definitely the biggest difference. Bigger sensor, means more light, means less grainy pictures. (Ever get those pictures where it looks like someone threw rice at it? That.)


You are correct in the absolute sense that a dSLR produces less noisy images. But at the practical level, it makes no difference for how most people use their images. Try shrinking even the noisiest 14 Mp image down to a tiny pic for Facebook or to 0.8 Mp for typical large-size posting on the web at 1024x768....or printing typical 4x6 prints (2 Mp @ 300 ppi) at the local photolab.

There are lots of reasons to use a dSLR over a point and shoot but these are generally outside the scope of the typical reasons that newbies claim as why they THINK they need a dSLR. If this weren't the case, they wouldn't be asking such elementary questions. It makes about as much sense as filling your car up with premium fuel when the engine hasn't even been designed to take advantage of the higher octane

[Duuuuude]

I don't think that's a useful comparison to begin with. I owned a couple of Fuji digicams back in the day when 3Mp was 'bleeding edge' technology. Fuji's claim to fame was the SuperCCD sensor that would give enhanced resolution from the layout of the receptors on the sensor. They kind of lost their way with image quality as the megapixel wars crept up because SuperCCD produced too many artifacts. In recent times, the only remaining advantage claimed by Fuji, high ISO performance, has now been surpassed by other makers.

Bottom line it that you didn't have to upgrade all the way to a dSLR to see huge improvements in image quality from your 2006 Fuji...one of the premium non-dSLRs like a Canon S95 or Panasonic LX5 would have done the trick. Much has improved with point and shoots since 2006.

Technology has improved since 2006?! Thanks for the news. :)

For my needs, I needed a DSLR. I have used several other cameras since "2006" and besides the S90/95, I would never consider a P&S. They do not come close.

Please don't try to paint everyone with your "most people do not NEED a DSLR" brush.

[manixc]

Thank you. I have read this review and it made me to reconsider my previous decision to buy Nikon D7000. The only question I have is the lenses for Pentax.
Pentax has really good Prime lens. The most notables are the FA limited and the newer DA limited. The DA limited is designed for DSLRs and they are compact!


+1

Given the questions being asked, I really don't think most people even NEED a dSLR. Just because dSLR prices have dropped to affordable levels people all of a sudden think they need one. If we look back a decade and half or so, most people were glad to be rid of their bulky film SLRs from the 80's and were moving to compact 35mm point and shoots. Take this entire consumer segment back in time and it is doubtful they would pick an SLR over a point and shoot if we were still back in those days. It's funny how consumers have such short memories.

I bought my DSLR for the minimum shutter lag. That was 3 years ago when DC usually has slow response. Overall, I like DSLR for their fast response and the adaptability of lens.
Also, film and digital memory is where the difference is. Back then, you play around with a SLR (with no image preview) and you end up spending quite a bit to develop the film. Now, everyone can just shoot, view and keep or delete with ease.

[jh1]

Also, film and digital memory is where the difference is. Back then, you play around with a SLR (with no image preview) and you end up spending quite a bit to develop the film. Now, everyone can just shoot, view and keep or delete with ease.

Film vs digital wasn't my point. If you'll recall, towards the tail end of film, most consumers had happily migrated to compact film cameras from SLR due to size and convenience. Why are the type of users that would have bought a compact in those days now buying into large and bulky cameras again, especially when it makes no difference in the image quality at image sizes these users typically post and print their images?

[manixc]

Film vs digital wasn't my point. If you'll recall, towards the tail end of film, most consumers had happily migrated to compact film cameras from SLR due to size and convenience. Why are the type of users that would have bought a compact in those days now buying into large and bulky cameras again, especially when it makes no difference in the image quality at image sizes these users typically post and print their images?

good point. in any case, back then the film is the same in both the SLR and compact camera. however, now a day, the DSLR has better sensor than compact DC.
in any case, we are starting to see the same DSLR in more compact body, like Sony NEX 3/5, Panason GF1 and GF2 and even Sigma DP1 and DP2.

[crazyfoo8]

DSLRs are definitely the way to go for more professional stuff, that is for sure.

Can check out some of my work with the 5D MK II and a 50D.

www.andrewcolvin.ca ;)

I also have a G11 and it is a SWEET little camera. My rule is as long as it can shoot RAW I'll use it ;)

[gte357s]

Film vs digital wasn't my point. If you'll recall, towards the tail end of film, most consumers had happily migrated to compact film cameras from SLR due to size and convenience. Why are the type of users that would have bought a compact in those days now buying into large and bulky cameras again, especially when it makes no difference in the image quality at image sizes these users typically post and print their images?

There may be some people won't care or won't see the difference, but there are big differences.
1) sensor sizes. Bigger sensor means more light, lower noise, better DOF control
2) lenses. Big aperture lenses need bigger glass for bigger sensors. So, if you have a APSC sensor, the size of the lens won't be too small, like the NEX.
3) user interface. Most pro DSLR have direct button to control ISO, focus point, metering mode ... etc. Small cameras usually need to go to the menu. Faster access means less chance to miss a moment
4) Focus speed. DSLR use phase detection which is much faster. Small compact camera including the micro 4/3 use contrast detection. For shooting sport, you need a DSLR

I bought a NEX as a P&S when i don't want to bring my DSLR, it is a fun little camera that I can carry it around, but seriously, the technology is not there yet to replace a DSLR.

[spiralspirit]

also, compact film cameras still took the same film - it would be like having a full frame sensor in one of today's point and shoots, and it being cheaper than a DSLR. I'd buy one of those too.

[Boardman]

Lots of interesting points on the dslr vs p&s discussion. For me, photography is a hobby. I've pretty much maxed out the enjoyment i can get with the hobby based on using my ultrazoom P&S. Granted, the increasing affordability of dslr's has impacted my decision to make the move to a dslr but it wasn't the key factor. At the same time, I'm looking for an entry level dslr so I can "learn to walk before I try and run" I want to get to the same point with my new dslr and glass as I'm at now - I need to upgrade to get more enjoyment / take it to the next level.

As far as grabbing a dslr for function, I'd rather hang gold bars around my neck. At least then people who don't know jack **** about photography will be able to tell I'm just trying to be in style and flaunt some cash lol.

[darklord700]

As far as grabbing a dslr for function, I'd rather hang gold bars around my neck. At least then people who don't know jack **** about photography will be able to tell I'm just trying to be in style and flaunt some cash lol.

I disagree. If you hang a Canon 1D body of a brick and a L lens the size of a drain pipe, even people who don't know jack about photography will come ask you how much is the camera and talk about photography. Much more effective than gold bar for drawing attention.

[jh1]

Technology has improved since 2006?! Thanks for the news. :)

For my needs, I needed a DSLR. I have used several other cameras since "2006" and besides the S90/95, I would never consider a P&S. They do not come close.

Please don't try to paint everyone with your "most people do not NEED a DSLR" brush.

Not sure why you painted everyone that shoots with their dSLR on Auto with a flash as somehow being undeserved of a dSLR. Like many, you're under the misguided notion that you need to shoot in manual with a dSLR to achieve the best possible results. Obviously, if you need DOF or shutter speed control, go off Auto/Programmed mode. But if you are only taking advantage of the dSLR's superior AF speed or need to capture high frames per second, ain't nothing wrong with shooting in Auto mode and making strategic use of Auto-ISO. Even for these applications, a point and shooter has options: take advantage of the huge depth of field offered by a small sensor and turn off AF instead relying on shooting within the hyperfocal distance. This will completely eliminate AF lag. As for high frame rates, even my CMOS point and shoot can achieve 10 frames per second at full 12Mp resolution, probably faster than any dSLR in existence today.

More importantly, if you are finding that you often need to go manual on your dSLR to get the best results for non specific DOF/shutter speed shooting, then that's a design flaw with your camera. There is nothing inherent with how a dSLR works that would preclude it from taking the best possible images in A or P mode. For the the comparatively higher cost of a dSLR, why should we expect any less Auto performance from it compared to a P&S?

[Boardman]

I disagree. If you hang a Canon 1D body of a brick and a L lens the size of a drain pipe, even people who don't know jack about photography will come ask you how much is the camera and talk about photography. Much more effective than gold bar for drawing attention.

Point taken - but I was planning on using a real BIG gold bar ;-)

FWIW - plan to head off to Black's soon. Should be a great visit based on this thread :)

[jh1]

Point taken - but I was planning on using a real BIG gold bar ;-)


Now this is one pimpin' camera:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1327/563926677_af8e239027.jpg

[pompoco]

Not sure why you painted everyone that shoots with their dSLR on Auto with a flash as somehow being undeserved of a dSLR. Like many, you're under the misguided notion that you need to shoot in manual with a dSLR to achieve the best possible results. Obviously, if you need DOF or shutter speed control, go off Auto/Programmed mode. But if you are only taking advantage of the dSLR's superior AF speed or need to capture high frames per second, ain't nothing wrong with shooting in Auto mode and making strategic use of Auto-ISO. Even for these applications, a point and shooter has options: take advantage of the huge depth of field offered by a small sensor and turn off AF instead relying on shooting within the hyperfocal distance. This will completely eliminate AF lag. As for high frame rates, even my CMOS point and shoot can achieve 10 frames per second at full 12Mp resolution, probably faster than any dSLR in existence today.

+1 Yupp ;)
Great feature on the Canon is the A-DEP mode (sadly missing on the 60D) which tries to keep each object in focus (P&S mode 2 :lol:)
The creative auto mode which guides you to get the desired result... cant use the full auto mode for that...
The P mode is very nice to balance aperture and shutter speed to get the desired exposure...
And most people shoot in AV or TV mode to get the desired exposure with either the selected aperture (DOF) or shutter speed...
and the Manual mode to set the aperture and shutter speed and let the camera calculate the rest for the desired exposure...

There isn't really a full manual mode (needed) anymore unless you restrict the ISO and then you better know what you're doing ;)
Why be harder on yourself than neccessary that's why we have these great tools and the DSLRs give you even the oportunity to set the equipment to the very special needs and wants you have and be able to change the whole thing into a totaly different setup within a few minutes...
This versatility can't be replicated by any P&S...

That said i still keep my trusty old Kodak Z915 in the glove department and did some amazing shoots with that. Only drawback no RAW but other than that an amazing piece of technology for $100... or the wife's $70 Samsung D760 ;)

[bubble.tea]

...my wife has commented on how amazing some of the pictures and video look, and she usually doesn't say much....

A tear. She's a keeper., hold onto her tight.







:razz::lol:

[Duuuuude]

Not sure why you painted everyone that shoots with their dSLR on Auto with a flash as somehow being undeserved of a dSLR. Like many, you're under the misguided notion that you need to shoot in manual with a dSLR to achieve the best possible results. Obviously, if you need DOF or shutter speed control, go off Auto/Programmed mode. But if you are only taking advantage of the dSLR's superior AF speed or need to capture high frames per second, ain't nothing wrong with shooting in Auto mode and making strategic use of Auto-ISO. Even for these applications, a point and shooter has options: take advantage of the huge depth of field offered by a small sensor and turn off AF instead relying on shooting within the hyperfocal distance. This will completely eliminate AF lag. As for high frame rates, even my CMOS point and shoot can achieve 10 frames per second at full 12Mp resolution, probably faster than any dSLR in existence today.

More importantly, if you are finding that you often need to go manual on your dSLR to get the best results for non specific DOF/shutter speed shooting, then that's a design flaw with your camera. There is nothing inherent with how a dSLR works that would preclude it from taking the best possible images in A or P mode. For the the comparatively higher cost of a dSLR, why should we expect any less Auto performance from it compared to a P&S?

I see you woke up on your soap box this morning. Misguided notions? Design flaw with my camera? Do you even have a DSLR?

You seem to have an elitist, condescending tone to your posts that puts down people while offering "advice". Why the chip on your shoulder?

Sorry to waste more space in this thread, but why are you judging EVERY person this thread? I didn't say that you can't ever use full auto nor did I say that you need to shoot in manual mode to achieve the best results. I was saying that there are some folks who have no idea how to use the other functions, but that is why most people buy a DSLR; to learn the extra functions and take better photos. Photos that you can't take with a P&S.

Anyways, I don't see the need to dignify a response to your posts anymore, nor should anyone have to justify their purchases to you.

[gottagetta]

I went to get the Canon Speedlite 580EX II at Aden Camera and they've increase their price twice from the $379.99 originally advertised. It went up to $399.99 on the weekend and now its $424.99 today. I didn't bother getting as a result.

[jh1]

I see you woke up on your soap box this morning. Misguided notions? Design flaw with my camera? Do you even have a DSLR?

You seem to have an elitist, condescending tone to your posts that puts down people while offering "advice". Why the chip on your shoulder?

Sorry to waste more space in this thread, but why are you judging EVERY person this thread? I didn't say that you can't ever use full auto nor did I say that you need to shoot in manual mode to achieve the best results. I was saying that there are some folks who have no idea how to use the other functions, but that is why most people buy a DSLR; to learn the extra functions and take better photos. Photos that you can't take with a P&S.

Anyways, I don't see the need to dignify a response to your posts anymore, nor should anyone have to justify their purchases to you.

I was simply responding to your presumptuous statement: "That said, if someone has their DSLR on full auto with a blaring flash all the time, then it is a little more difficult to tell the difference with a decent point-and-shoot and those people probably shouldn't be wasting several hundred dollars on a DSLR."
Why are YOU judging those people?

To answer your question, yes, I own both Canon and Nikon dSLRs and learned photography with a film SLR. I've owned a bunch of advanced P&S like the Canon S and Panasonic LX series, so any observations I'm making are based on first hand experience, not as an armchair critic.

No need to be so defensive. We all buy stuff we don't fully utilize...it's just the nature of tech hobbies. But at least I'll admit it. Truth be told, dSLR's have become the SUVs of cameras where image and style often supercedes function.

[jande9]

I bought a NEX as a P&S when i don't want to bring my DSLR, it is a fun little camera that I can carry it around, but seriously, the technology is not there yet to replace a DSLR.

What do you feel a dslr gives you that the Nex can't? I would love a P&S sized camera with dslr quality.

[bubble.tea]

...as an armchair critic.
hey what's wrong with that? lol

...We all buy stuff we don't fully utilize...it's just the nature of tech hobbies.
I thought it was because we're on RFD teehee.

....dSLR's have become the SUVs of cameras where image and style often supercedes function.
Man, you are really whippin' out the expression eh? That's SO TRUE...lol...'the SUVs of cameras'...I LIKE IT!!!!

[RunOrDie]

Still waiting for a good deal on the Nikon D7000.....

[firey3]

Hey Guys,

So i've been looking @ dslrs lately as I've always wanted one but Im not that familiar with the specs. This is going to be my first one. So i'm just looking for something that will be relatively decent and not too expensive.

I've been looking at
the canon rebel XS W/18-55 IS LENS - 499 @ henrys
http://www.henrys.ca/23770-CANON-REBEL-XS-W-18-55-IS-LENS-BLACK.aspx

and SONY ALPHA A390 DSLR W/18-55 LENS - 499
http://www.henrys.ca/61063-SONY-ALPHA-A390-DSLR-W-18-55-LENS.aspx

SONY ALPHA A500 DSLR W/18-55 LENS - 399
http://www.henrys.ca/53880-SONY-ALPHA-A500-DSLR-W-18-55-LENS.aspx

I'm just wondering which is better?

Thanks for your help!

[bztang]

Hey Guys,

So i've been looking @ dslrs lately as I've always wanted one but Im not that familiar with the specs. This is going to be my first one. So i'm just looking for something that will be relatively decent and not too expensive.

I've been looking at
the canon rebel XS W/18-55 IS LENS - 499 @ henrys
http://www.henrys.ca/23770-CANON-REBEL-XS-W-18-55-IS-LENS-BLACK.aspx

and SONY ALPHA A390 DSLR W/18-55 LENS - 499
http://www.henrys.ca/61063-SONY-ALPHA-A390-DSLR-W-18-55-LENS.aspx

SONY ALPHA A500 DSLR W/18-55 LENS - 399
http://www.henrys.ca/53880-SONY-ALPHA-A500-DSLR-W-18-55-LENS.aspx

I'm just wondering which is better?

Thanks for your help!

First, well the A500 is a step up from the A390 plus it's 100$ less making the A500 the obvious better choice. Between the XS and A500, the A500 has higher max ISO and 1080 HD video recording as well as faster continuous shooting (5fps vs 3fps), in-body image stabilization instead of built-in the lens, oh and higher resolution 12.3MP vs 10.1MP. The Canon maxes its ISO at 1600 and has no HD video recording. However, the XS is thinner and lighter and since its a Canon it has a wider assortment of lenses than Sony. Finally, picture quality and noise at high ISO are similar for those two, which to me are the two most important aspects of a camera. Alright, so since the A500 is overall a better camera with more options and slightly better image quality as well as being a hundred bucks cheaper, I think that it is more than worth the price.

[crukkh]

While most of the above is true, a500 does NOT have any type of video onboard.

[FuNPoLiCe001]

While most of the above is true, a500 does NOT have any type of video onboard.

Beat me to it. At first I saw video and got all excited.

[bztang]

While most of the above is true, a500 does NOT have any type of video onboard.

Ah yes, my bad, thanks. The A500 is also missing DoF preview and Program shift, which is can be make or break your decision if you need those.

[firey3]

So would the majority suggest a500 over the canon rebel?? I don't think i'm going to buy too many lenses i just wanna keep it simple but have better quality/able to shoot faster than a normal point and shoot?

[Pepsidewd]

So would the majority suggest a500 over the canon rebel?? I don't think i'm going to buy too many lenses i just wanna keep it simple but have better quality/able to shoot faster than a normal point and shoot?

Canon to me is the better choice simply for the amount of websites, magazines and not to mention people that support Canon DSLRs. I am in a local photo club and the split is about 48% Canon 48% Nikon and 2% SOny. Lets just say the 2 Sony guys tend to find some of the meetings long when we talk about Nikon or Canon specific stuff. Sony DSLR are not supported by some of the 3rd party flashes. Not saying a Sony is a bad choice, but I am sure you will find it easier to progress by shooting with a camera that others around you shoot with thats all. Good luck with your purchase

[crukkh]

I have been very happy with a somewhat simpler Sony a330 I got in November. Lots of great Minolta lenses available. Much simpler to get used to after a bridge camera (I had a Nikon P100, Canon SX20 and still have a Panny 8x with Leica lens). Very nice menu, MUCH better pic quality and ability to experiment. I'm thinking of selling it in favour of a500 though :)

[sixteen12]

That;s a killer deal on the a500, I was going to wait for a deal on the A55 but I might pick this up and wait til the next gen of DSLT from Sony.

[wetsnot]

Canon to me is the better choice simply for the amount of websites, magazines and not to mention people that support Canon DSLRs.

yes but the reasons are not always correct.
when i talk to people who took photography in college, they almost always say that the teachers recommended Canon...just like how they recommend Apple computers for processing because they are more powerful and reproduce colour more accurately...for which any computer geek will say is shenanigans...

[spiralspirit]

aren't some of the Sony NEX cameras on sale in the same price range (~$400)? Aside from the lack of viewfinder I think the NEX cameras look a lot better than buying an already last gen a500.

[sixteen12]

yes but the reasons are not always correct.
when i talk to people who took photography in college, they almost always say that the teachers recommended Canon...just like how they recommend Apple computers for processing because they are more powerful and reproduce colour more accurately...for which any computer geek will say is shenanigans...

The apple stuff is from back in the day when the Apple GPU more accurately produced pixels. It has long been fixed on Windows based PCs and has arguably been surpassed.

Back to the A500, would this be a good camera to get into DSLR photography with? I've been waiting for a really good deal to start and this seems like the best, getting a T2i level camera for half the price.

[jyjtang]

What about SONY ALPHA A550 DSLR W/18-55 LENS at $499 at Henry's? Is it worth $100 more than that A500? Seems like a pretty good deal. Been thinking about T2i or Sony A550 or Sony SLT-A55. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.henrys.ca/53881-SONY-ALPHA-A550-DSLR-W-18-55-LENS.aspx

[bogey]

One of the supposed advantage of larger sensor/pixel in a DSLR is that they are able to capture more photons in order to distinguish smaller variations in brightness.
Larger sensor should distinguish more details (maybe more evident in dark or bright areas, where more details should be seen).
More photons captured also means the larger sensors work better in low light conditions.

DSLR are also enthusiast oriented. RAW data capture, extra control/features, snappier operation.

Whether you need/want one is up to you of course.

[bluestreetlight]

What about SONY ALPHA A550 DSLR W/18-55 LENS at $499 at Henry's? Is it worth $100 more than that A500? Seems like a pretty good deal. Been thinking about T2i or Sony A550 or Sony SLT-A55. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.henrys.ca/53881-SONY-ALPHA-A550-DSLR-W-18-55-LENS.aspx

The body color of A550 is two-tone. Some people prefer single body color including myself.

http://www.radiantlite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/sony-a550-a500.jpg

[blair7]

The A550 is a nice little camera. My wife has one and really likes it.

It does all the things she needs and probably all the things you would need very well.

Each camera brand has its advantages. For the average person they will do just fine with any of them. Don't get caught up in the if it is not a Canon or Nikon then it is not any good. Pentax and Sony as well as others make very good DSLRs.

If you want to shoot video then you need to look at other models than the a550 or 500.

[spiralspirit]

I agree that pretty much everyone puts out a quality product, but the reason why canon and nikon are good to buy is because they have so much marketshare which means you can find a lot more used equipment and accessories.

[MikeAK]

I agree that pretty much everyone puts out a quality product, but the reason why canon and nikon are good to buy is because they have so much marketshare which means you can find a lot more used equipment and accessories.

That's certainly a good reason why Canon and Nikon are good buys, although it isn't "the reason". Canon and Nikon have been leading the market in ISO performance and color reproduction for quite some time now. Also, I'd even go as far to say that Canon has the best glass line-up of all the camera makers. I wouldn't say the reason to buy them is because you can find more of their products in the used sector. It's more to do with the quality of their products that keeps them on top year after year.

[Boardman]

The body color of A550 is two-tone. Some people prefer single body color including myself.

http://www.radiantlite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/sony-a550-a500.jpg

The colour of the body [aesthetics] has NO impact for me. That said, the form factor [feel in hand etc] IS a factor. I'm also considering support for the manufacturer as well as interchangeability / availability of lenses for the bodies in question.

[starchoice]

$879.99 package

Is there a better deal than this on the T1i?

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-EOS-Rebel-T1i-supported/dp/B002ERO5F8/ref=sr_1_12?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1294069167&sr=1-12

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61vsueihmZL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

[pompoco]

[QUOTE=starchoice;12182626]$879.99 package

Is there a better deal than this on the T1i?

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-EOS-Rebel-T1i-supported/dp/B002ERO5F8/ref=sr_1_12?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1294069167&sr=1-12

[QUOTE]

thats US right?

check here (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03331/Canon-EOS-Rebel-T1i-with-18-55-IS-and-75-300-Kit-price.html) for the Kit and hit Henrys for the Tripod and Accessoire Kit... most likely cheaper and local plus you would get the USM lens instead of the non USM one....

[crukkh]

Just posted this in the NEX thread but thought I'd share here as Sony DSLR deals are mainly at Henry's.

Hope you don't run into problems with them:

Ordered a DSLR from Henry's on the 31st of December and paid by PayPal in order to take advantage of the $20 cash back promo, order was showing as eligible in PayPal. Checked my PayPal yesterday and payment was "cancelled". I didn't cancel it, so Henry's did for whatever reason... had ZERO communication from them in the mean time.

Contacted them with a polite email asking why they cancelled my order, received a cryptic "Contact Paypal about the $20 promo" email without a "Hello" or "Bye" or name of the respondent. And that in spite of me saying that I have since reordered the cam and paid by CC.

Also, had to call in to correct my shipping postal code and the woman on the other end was not very pleasant.

Very disappointed with Henry's service, prices may be OK on sale but I would be very concerned about customer service.

Just my 2c.

[Flymeaway]

60D 18-135 lens Kit plus bonus battery $1249

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-60d-18-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-18-135mm-lens-kit-and-bonus-battery-60d-18-135kit/10159641.aspx?path=012ee6f09c77fd17deb925b26d9067f 3en02

[keg0851]

any good deals left on T2i ?

[joegrecoant]

60D 18-135 lens Kit plus bonus battery $1249

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-60d-18-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-18-135mm-lens-kit-and-bonus-battery-60d-18-135kit/10159641.aspx?path=012ee6f09c77fd17deb925b26d9067f 3en02

I just purchased the 60D 18-200 from Henry's for $1249.....i guess depends on your needs. But my sales person is extremely knowledgeable and friendly. Unlike Bestbuy, which is where I first went to, since it's closer.

I was going to get the T2i 18-135 for $999, but for $250 more for the 18-200 lens + 60d seems better bang for the buck.....imo

[wetsnot]

if you're looking for a Sony NEX series.

You can PM BB and Henry's for a NEX3 with 18-55. Check OP for links, it's been updated.

[bubba_gump]

Please keep this thread going, always good to see what good deals are around for DSLRs.

[pulsar123]

Regarding "Sony A500 being better than Canon XS because the former has higher ISO settings": I don't think this should be a factor when comparing the two cameras. Maximum ISO settings are quite meaningless. What one has to compare is the raw (before noise reduction) amount of noise at different ISO settings. You can find the data here (click on SNR 18% tab):

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en/Camera-Sensor/Compare-sensors/%28appareil1%29/270|0/%28appareil2%29/626|0/%28onglet%29/0/%28brand%29/Canon/%28brand2%29/Sony

As you can see, at every ISO setting which is common between Canon and Sony, the noise level is identical. Sony A500 does go beyond the Canon's ISO 1600, but with the price of even higher noise. I have the XS, and find ISO 1600 rather unusable. Even less usable will be the Sony's >1600 ISO settings. So very high ISO on Sony is just a manufacturer's gimmick.

[ans2]

That's certainly a good reason why Canon and Nikon are good buys, although it isn't "the reason". Canon and Nikon have been leading the market in ISO performance and color reproduction for quite some time now. Also, I'd even go as far to say that Canon has the best glass line-up of all the camera makers. I wouldn't say the reason to buy them is because you can find more of their products in the used sector. It's more to do with the quality of their products that keeps them on top year after year.

I won't get into the debate on who has the best glass. I have owned Nikon since my first black body Nikon F.

In the film world, there were many good and some great products, including Leica, Pentax, Minolta as well as Nikon and Cannon. Fifteen years ago, I was worried that Nikon would not be able to successfully transition into the digital world making all my Nikon lenses obsolete. I had the sense that Cannon and others were way ahead of Nikon. Between the two of them, they now have the largest market share of DSRL cameras. Nikon is probably still not out of the woods. Minolta and others were not successful in making the transition to the digital world. The jury is probably still out on Sony when it comes to DSRL cameras. Since they supply the sensor that goes into most if not all Nikon DSRL's, they can not be ruled out. And of coarse, Sony and Cannon combined have the largest market share in video cameras.

I can not speak for Cannon. But there is lots of information on the internet on the compatibility of older Nikon lenses with newer Nikon camera bodies. Many of my older Nikon lenses can still be used on newer Nikon bodies. Of coarse, some of the older lenses did not have auto focusing features.

[starchoice]

60D 18-135 lens Kit plus bonus battery $1249

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-60d-18-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-18-135mm-lens-kit-and-bonus-battery-60d-18-135kit/10159641.aspx?path=012ee6f09c77fd17deb925b26d9067f 3en02

This is not even on sale!

[puneet]

hi guys,
any one willing to sell their newly bought Sony a500 or has a spare for me. Pickup ASAP.
Please PM
thanks

[OThePestO]

Is this a good deal for the T1i?


http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-rebel-t1i-15-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-lens-and-accessory-kit-t1/10159372.aspx?path=a2e87e0d0f8c3dec16575a8ddcadde0 5en02

[starchoice]

Is this a good deal for the T1i?


http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-rebel-t1i-15-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-lens-and-accessory-kit-t1/10159372.aspx?path=a2e87e0d0f8c3dec16575a8ddcadde0 5en02

Definitely.

[MikeAK]

I won't get into the debate on who has the best glass.

Is it really even a debate? I am serious. I would think if most users took an unbiased approached and looked at both Canon and Nikon glass then surely the majority would agree that Canon has the edge. I'm not talking about a few lenses here, I'm talking about the entire system available. I believe Canon has been leading in this area for quite some time now.

[jh1]

Is it really even a debate? I am serious. I would think if most users took an unbiased approached and looked at both Canon and Nikon glass then surely the majority would agree that Canon has the edge. I'm not talking about a few lenses here, I'm talking about the entire system available. I believe Canon has been leading in this area for quite some time now.

Exactly, what attributes are you comparing? Build quality? Optical quality? Value? From who's perspective? A pro sports photographer? A wedding photographer? A landscape photographer? A general consumer and hobbyist?

[BerryPride]

a bit off topic as it's related to DSLR accessories but has anyone seen the 60D accessory kit for $299 @ BB? it's got the BG-E9 battery grip, extra canon battery and canon logo'd camera bag:
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-60d-accessory-kit-60d-acc-kit/10160511.aspx?path=3f7b0bc4e4dca64571b220ff62fa749 een02

FS is selling the battery grip only for $369.99
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-battery-grip-for-eos-60d-bg-e9-web-only-bg-e9/10154970.aspx?path=1cd71c4a9ba06203852e1656acb47aa 5en02

Vistek and Henry's has grip only for $329.99
http://www.vistek.ca/store/DSLRAccessories/252022/canon-bge9-battery-grip-for-60d.aspx
http://www.henrys.ca/61850-CANON-BG-E9-BATTERY-GRIP-60D.aspx

seems like a good deal compared to the other CDN retailers

[Uberclk]

Is it really even a debate? I am serious. I would think if most users took an unbiased approached and looked at both Canon and Nikon glass then surely the majority would agree that Canon has the edge. I'm not talking about a few lenses here, I'm talking about the entire system available. I believe Canon has been leading in this area for quite some time now.

are you saying the entire system of lenses from Canon are better then the Nikon equivalent? try google "nikon 14-24 2.8" and read some of the reviews on that.
I'm not sure what market segment you belong to, but clearly we're not on the same one.

[ardant]

a bit off topic as it's related to DSLR accessories but has anyone seen the 60D accessory kit for $299 @ BB? it's got the BG-E9 battery grip, extra canon battery and canon logo'd camera bag:
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-60d-accessory-kit-60d-acc-kit/10160511.aspx?path=3f7b0bc4e4dca64571b220ff62fa749 een02

FS is selling the battery grip only for $369.99
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-battery-grip-for-eos-60d-bg-e9-web-only-bg-e9/10154970.aspx?path=1cd71c4a9ba06203852e1656acb47aa 5en02

Vistek and Henry's has grip only for $329.99
http://www.vistek.ca/store/DSLRAccessories/252022/canon-bge9-battery-grip-for-60d.aspx
http://www.henrys.ca/61850-CANON-BG-E9-BATTERY-GRIP-60D.aspx

seems like a good deal compared to the other CDN retailers

I don't think it's a great deal, if you look at other prices for the BG-E9 (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03452/Canon-BG-E9-Battery-Grip-for-60D-price.html) (Henrys / Vistek are usually the worst).

Cheapest Canadian price for BG-E9 is Mostly Digital at $257.99.

Even better is if you buy in the States ($187 USD), all-in is $226 CAD. With the $120 difference you can buy your battery and a bag of your choice.

[Blitzo]

Is it really even a debate? I am serious. I would think if most users took an unbiased approached and looked at both Canon and Nikon glass then surely the majority would agree that Canon has the edge. I'm not talking about a few lenses here, I'm talking about the entire system available. I believe Canon has been leading in this area for quite some time now.

What a noob. I own both canon and nikon lenses and both sides have their pros and cons.

[NuggyBuggy]

Is it really even a debate? I am serious. I would think if most users took an unbiased approached and looked at both Canon and Nikon glass then surely the majority would agree that Canon has the edge. I'm not talking about a few lenses here, I'm talking about the entire system available. I believe Canon has been leading in this area for quite some time now.
Of course the issue of whether one "entire system' of glass is better is debatable, because if it weren't, everybody would be shooting Canon (except the people who appreciate Nikon's superior ergonomics).

For instance, a lot of people believe that Nikon's zooms (14-24, 24-70, 70-200, 200-400) are superior to Canon's offerings. The 24/1.4 is getting stellar reviews, and the 85/1.4, 200/2, 105DC and 135DC are held in almost cult-like esteem.

At the 2008 Olympics, there were a bunch of shots of the photographers galleries which counted the number of Nikon and Canon lenses, and Nikon almost always came out on top. Since these photographers are at the pinnacle of their field, and they certainly appreciate the importance of glass, what do you think this tells us ?


Finally: http://www.16-9.net/nikon_g/.

[NuggyBuggy]

I recently made the switch from my DSLR-sized Fujifilm S6000fd point-and-shoot to a T2i and the difference (when you use manual settings and get a good shot) is huge. I thought my old camera took great pics, but I've taken amazing shots of everything from my Christmas tree to my kids' hockey, including incredible video (which needs a little babysitting, but not much). Even my wife has commented on how amazing some of the pictures and video look, and she usually doesn't say much.

That said, if someone has their DSLR on full auto with a blaring flash all the time, then it is a little more difficult to tell the difference with a decent point-and-shoot and those people probably shouldn't be wasting several hundred dollars on a DSLR. :)
I say BS. All things equal, an average DSLR on full auto will still take better pictures than the average (or better) point-and-shoot. Of course, it won't turn crappy shots into art, which is where most people get hung up in this debate.

[lpsaad]

OP, Henry's NEX3 is now $499.

[wetsnot]

OP, Henry's NEX3 is now $499.

Blah!

Thanks for the heads up.

[slimysnot]

Hi OP,

This deal is also dead (doh!). when i clicked on the link the price is $999...

Canon T2i w18-55 and 75-300 - Camera Store $859.42
http://www.thecamerastore.com/produc...d-75-300mm-kit

[wetsnot]

Hi OP,

This deal is also dead (doh!). when i clicked on the link the price is $999...

Canon T2i w18-55 and 75-300 - Camera Store $859.42
http://www.thecamerastore.com/produc...d-75-300mm-kit

Gah!
Rebates are expiring left right and center.

Thanks for the heads up.

and nice name!

[dookeran_3]

shhhhhh.......I better not mention Sigma and Tamron lenses cause if they hear what I have to say then it will break out into a hockey fight. Best to let sleeping dogs lay.

[pompoco]

shhhhhh.......I better not mention Sigma and Tamron lenses cause if they hear what I have to say then it will break out into a hockey fight. Best to let sleeping dogs lay.

Why ? ;) let's get some action .... :lol:

IMHO Sigma and Tamron are able to sell better overall lenses (considering the price) than the Name-manufacturers...
QC is an Issue but you can get better performing lenses for a fraction of the price a comparable brand lens cost, even if you have to send in or exchange the lens afew times.....

Duck, Run and getting the flamesuit.

[wetsnot]

Canon EF-S 15-85mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens - Vistek $699.95
Canon 60D body - PM BB and Vistek $923.90

links on OP.

[starchoice]

Picked up the T1i at BB. I think this was the best deal going. I sent out three offers to price match to camera dealers. One was Vistek and they didn't even bother responding. One dealer who advertises "lowest price" and has a policy in effect saying if you buy from them and you find a lower price within 14 days, they will refund the difference. Regardless, they said the camera alone was below their cost, never mind the accessories and they couldn't do it. If you can find one in stock, the price is still valid through January 6th. Forget about PMs.

[vaporize]

Picked up the T1i at BB. I think this was the best deal going. I sent out three offers to price match to camera dealers. One was Vistek and they didn't even bother responding. One dealer who advertises "lowest price" and has a policy in effect saying if you buy from them and you find a lower price within 14 days, they will refund the difference. Regardless, they said the camera alone was below their cost, never mind the accessories and they couldn't do it. If you can find one in stock, the price is still valid through January 6th. Forget about PMs.

starchoice, what price you finally paid for the T1i? (right now it listed $699.99 at BB, it's hardly the lowest price I've seen on this camera)

[pompoco]

starchoice, what price you finally paid for the T1i? (right now it listed $699.99 at BB, it's hardly the lowest price I've seen on this camera)

Probably $580 plus taxes as shown in this ad here (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-rebel-t1i-15-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-lens-and-accessory-kit-t1/10159372.aspx?path=a2e87e0d0f8c3dec16575a8ddcadde0 5en02).
Sold out online, but you are able to check local stock (finaly again)...

[gdnmatrix]

Thanks OP for this thread!

[starchoice]

Probably $580 plus taxes as shown in this ad here (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-rebel-t1i-15-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-lens-and-accessory-kit-t1/10159372.aspx?path=a2e87e0d0f8c3dec16575a8ddcadde0 5en02).
Sold out online, but you are able to check local stock (finaly again)...

Correct - camera, lens and accessory kit which includes two batteries. It was open box so I even got a further discount.

Even Best Buy in the U.S. is selling just the camera for $650 (on sale):

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Canon+-+EOS+Digital+Rebel+T1i+15.1-Megapixel+Digital+SLR+Camera+-+Black/9318954.p?id=1218084392413&skuId=9318954

[wetsnot]

Canon EF-S 17-85mm F/4-5.6 IS USM - PM BB and Merkle $405.99
you can also PM between Aden or FS. Check the OP

Samsung NX10 w 18-55mm - PM Don's/Broadway with FS $379.99
beware of shipping





Also Olympus has announced the E-PL2 at CES 2011.

http://gizmodo.com/5726101/olympus-pen-e+pl2-and-xz+1-are-powerful-affordable-and-accessorize-fabulously

[wetsnot]

Sony NEX3 w/ 18-55mm - PM BB and Henry's $369.99 IS BACK
Check OP for links.

[jande9]

This may not be the right thread to mention this but with the plethora of new DSLR's on the market this Christmas and the huge discounting on old models, the floor has dropped out of the used market.

Here in Van original 6mp Canon Rebels with kit lenses go on Craigslist for around $150. I saw a Nikon DSLR 6mp body for $50.! Although 7 years old, these cameras still give great results, better in my opinion than most modern P&S no matter what their mp's are. If you don't mind giving up some often little used features, these old cameras take beautiful pictures that can easily take printing up to 11X14. And it is nice to get out of the planned obsolescence rat race, where your $800. jewel turns into a $500. has-been in just a few months.

[wetsnot]

This may not be the right thread to mention this but with the plethora of new DSLR's on the market this Christmas and the huge discounting on old models, the floor has dropped out of the used market.

Here in Van original 6mp Canon Rebels with kit lenses go on Craigslist for around $150. I saw a Nikon DSLR 6mp body for $50.! Although 7 years old, these cameras still give great results, better in my opinion than most modern P&S no matter what their mp's are. If you don't mind giving up some often little used features, these old cameras take beautiful pictures that can easily take printing up to 11X14. And it is nice to get out of the planned obsolescence rat race, where your $800. jewel turns into a $500. has-been in just a few months.

very true. but some people prefer the security of purchasing new from an authorized retailer.


100% up to date for Jan 7

Canon EOS Rebel XS 10.1MP DSLR Camera With 18-55mm DC Lens Kit PM FS and BB $436.99

check OP for links

in case you are really itching for an XS.

[selkies]

I needed a thread like this thank you so much

[Subie XT]

So I'm standing in Blacks today looking at a 75->300 lens going on sale 299 down to 199, telling the sales rep about my Vistek experience when I get a mail from...Vistek...dear valued customer yada yada and three offers just for me to make things right for the Boxing day dealy:

Option 1: $739.95 for the Canon EOS Digital Rebel T2i w/18-55mm IS kit. (Unfortunately, we are no longer able to offer the double zoom kit.) Important note: Stock will arrive in early February. You will be put on a priority list for one of the first available single lens kits.

Option 2: $849.95 for the Nikon D3100 Kit with AF-S 18-55mm + AF-S 55-200mm f/4.0-5.6 G VR lenses

Option 3: $599.95 for the Nikon D3100 Kit with AF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 G VR DX Lens

just a heads up...based on what I read in this thread a week or so ago I expect a few of you will see the same.

[skahane]

I got the same email from Vistek. Sad excuse to try to make up for their error. If they can offer the T2i camera and lens for $740, why can they not throw in the additional lens like they had in their original sale. I plan on calling them tomorrow and demanding they honour their original boxing day deal. See this weeks flyer at FS for same at $799 and $999 with 55-250 lens. If FS is even selling the original double lens kit in their stores, why does Vistek say they are not available to them???

I will be calling Vistek tomorrow and suggest everyone reading this do the same.

Any thoughts about the Nikon 3100? Reviews comparing the two are controversial.

[wetsnot]

I got the same email from Vistek. Sad excuse to try to make up for their error. If they can offer the T2i camera and lens for $740, why can they not throw in the additional lens like they had in their original sale. I plan on calling them tomorrow and demanding they honour their original boxing day deal. See this weeks flyer at FS for same at $799 and $999 with 55-250 lens. If FS is even selling the original double lens kit in their stores, why does Vistek say they are not available to them???

I will be calling Vistek tomorrow and suggest everyone reading this do the same.

Any thoughts about the Nikon 3100? Reviews comparing the two are controversial.

this sounds like Canon problems. I noticed alot of photography specific retailers are pulling Canon items off their websites this week or listing them as out of stock. i think henrys pulled the double zooms for both t1i and t2i.

And to me the difference between Vistek/Henry's/Black's and Futureshop/Bestbuy in sales is huge. I would venture to guess that FS/BB easily outsells Vistek/Henry's in cameras and that Canon is keeping the big box electronic stores in supply and screwing over the smaller retailers. And in all honesty, if i was Canon i'd do the same thing.


It's hard to compare the T2i with the D3100, mostly because Canon still has the T1i below and the D3100 is currently the lowest level DSLR.

[wetsnot]

So I'm standing in Blacks today looking at a 75->300 lens going on sale 299 down to 199, telling the sales rep about my Vistek experience when I get a mail from...Vistek...dear valued customer yada yada and three offers just for me to make things right for the Boxing day dealy:

Option 1: $739.95 for the Canon EOS Digital Rebel T2i w/18-55mm IS kit. (Unfortunately, we are no longer able to offer the double zoom kit.) Important note: Stock will arrive in early February. You will be put on a priority list for one of the first available single lens kits.

Option 2: $849.95 for the Nikon D3100 Kit with AF-S 18-55mm + AF-S 55-200mm f/4.0-5.6 G VR lenses

Option 3: $599.95 for the Nikon D3100 Kit with AF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 G VR DX Lens

just a heads up...based on what I read in this thread a week or so ago I expect a few of you will see the same.

the pricing looks pretty good. the type of prices you'd see over the holidays.
I'm liking #1 and #3. Not sure what to make of #2, seems decent.



BTW, you can PM BB or FS for an additional $8 off that lens...ya it's not much but money's money.

[LonesomeDove]

the pricing looks pretty good. the type of prices you'd see over the holidays.
I'm liking #1 and #3. Not sure what to make of #2, seems decent.

Best Buy had #2 for $799 until yesterday. I received my order yesterday and the Nikon D3100 is a good camera. I am trying it out and it is very easy to use. The camera is very light and is easy to handle. Pictures are very good but I have not tried the video yet.

I would say the deal is not bad because the 55-200mm lens usually sell for $300. Taking this into consideration, the Nikon D3100 camera with 18-55mm lens work out to be $550 ($850 -$300), lower than the $599 price without the bonus lens.

[doggonefunny]

So I'm standing in Blacks today looking at a 75->300 lens going on sale 299 down to 199, telling the sales rep about my Vistek experience when I get a mail from...Vistek...dear valued customer yada yada and three offers just for me to make things right for the Boxing day dealy:

Option 1: $739.95 for the Canon EOS Digital Rebel T2i w/18-55mm IS kit. (Unfortunately, we are no longer able to offer the double zoom kit.) Important note: Stock will arrive in early February. You will be put on a priority list for one of the first available single lens kits.

Option 2: $849.95 for the Nikon D3100 Kit with AF-S 18-55mm + AF-S 55-200mm f/4.0-5.6 G VR lenses

Option 3: $599.95 for the Nikon D3100 Kit with AF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 G VR DX Lens

just a heads up...based on what I read in this thread a week or so ago I expect a few of you will see the same.



I choose option#4

Option#4 -Spend money somewhere else

Never did find a good price on T2i after being hung out to dry at VISTEK
I ended up with a 60D and spent my money at Bestbuy,Henry's and Merkle instead and happy with decision)

[Rx-87]

Let me know when a Sony A55 becomes available for less!!

[lpsaad]

Op, regarding the NEX-3..am I missing something? I don't see it as $399 but rather as $599.

[wetsnot]

Op, regarding the NEX-3..am I missing something? I don't see it as $399 but rather as $599.

ugh, price changes. that didn't last long.

[antsmarchin]

What price would you suggest I buy a Nikon D90 at?

I know the lowest I have seen is roughly ~$750.

Located in Toronto.

Thanks

[stevenma188]

^That was with the 18-55 lens though right?

[alloy]

I guess that Vistek has the Canon 60d body only on for $900 now (at least in Ottawa) although it still shows $950 on their web site. I managed to pm Future Shop and get the camera for $880 plus tax. Thanks OP.

[canuckkat]

What price would you suggest I buy a Nikon D90 at?

I know the lowest I have seen is roughly ~$750.

Located in Toronto.

Thanks

~$750 is the all time lowest AFAIK.

[ronufoh]

What price would you suggest I buy a Nikon D90 at?

I know the lowest I have seen is roughly ~$750.

Located in Toronto.

Thanks

Bestbuy has the D90 with the 18-55 and 55-200 VR for $999. Hot price IMO, the 55-200 is essentially $150 in this package. I think the cheapest the 55-200 has been on sale is $230

I bought the D90 in the fall for $899 with the 18-105, but IMO the 18-55 and 55-200 combo gives better results and more range, which the extra $100 is totally worthwhile. It's nice having the versatility of the 18-105, but its ok at most but great at nothing (kind of like the 18-200, but not as bad).

Had the $799 D3100 with the 18-55 and 55-200 combo been available when I got my D90, that would have been a much tougher decision since there are a lot of features on the D90 that I don't see myself really needing to use.

[c5ho]

I ended up buying the D90 with 18-105mm kit at Vistek on the their Boxing Day sale for $899 but then found out that Aden had it for $884.99. I went back today (within 14 days) and got them to match the price.


Update Jan. 31:

When I bought the D90 with 18-105mm lens kit at Vistek, I also bought the Epson Stylus R1900 printer for $569.99 so that I could qualify for the $450 bundle rebate (available at the time). I recently sold the printer so in the end, I got the kit for:

($884.99 + $569.99) * 1.13 = $1644 - 350 - 450 = $844 !

There doesn't seem to be a similar rebate promotion going at the moment, but it seems to be a pretty frequent thing so keep looking if you're willing to do all the legwork.

[ggweci]

What price would you suggest I buy a Nikon D90 at?

I know the lowest I have seen is roughly ~$750.

Located in Toronto.

Thanks


~$750 is the all time lowest AFAIK.

Are you looking for just the body? if so, it can be had for under $700 at many retailers:

http://www.photoprice.ca/product/02664/Nikon-D90-price.html

[wetsnot]

~$750 is the all time lowest AFAIK.

the lowest retail D90 body price all time is $664 in mid october.

The best deal for just the D90 body was $659.95 for the entire month of december, PMing BB and The Camera Store.

Edit: Actually the PM is still available
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/nikon-nikon-d90-12-3mp-dslr-camera-body-only-d90-body/10113241.aspx?path=0915b1a499eef96926111545497ee8b 5en02
https://www.thecamerastore.com/products/cameras/digital-cameras/digital-slr-cameras/nikon-d90-body

[dipenparekh]

what is your thought on this one?
I understand in US Costco -

Nikon D5000 kit with 55MM and 200 MM lens + Bag + 4GB SD Card - 749.99 + Tax at Costco

Whats Included:

Nikon D5000 Digital SLR Camera
AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR (Image Stabilization)
AF-S DX VR Zoom-NIKKOR 55-200mm f/4-5.6G IF-ED (Image Stabilization)
4GB SD Card
Carrying Case
EN-EL9a Rechargeable Li-ion Battery
Quick Charger
USB Cable
A/V Cable
Strap
Software Suite CD-ROM



http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11480706&whse=BC&topnav=&cat=87150&b=1&lang=en-US&SessionID=a125dab4-b79b-4ee4-a279-3683c655b23e

What about warranty and stuff? will it be covered by Canada Costco?

[wetsnot]

what is your thought on this one?
I understand in US Costco -

Nikon D5000 kit with 55MM and 200 MM lens + Bag + 4GB SD Card - 749.99 + Tax at Costco

Whats Included:

Nikon D5000 Digital SLR Camera
AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR (Image Stabilization)
AF-S DX VR Zoom-NIKKOR 55-200mm f/4-5.6G IF-ED (Image Stabilization)
4GB SD Card
Carrying Case
EN-EL9a Rechargeable Li-ion Battery
Quick Charger
USB Cable
A/V Cable
Strap
Software Suite CD-ROM



http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11480706&whse=BC&topnav=&cat=87150&b=1&lang=en-US&SessionID=a125dab4-b79b-4ee4-a279-3683c655b23e

What about warranty and stuff? will it be covered by Canada Costco?

Nikon doesn't do crossborder warranties.
The lowest price I've seen for a D5000 with 18-55 and 55-200 was $800.
It's discontinued now.

[dipenparekh]

Nikon doesn't do crossborder warranties.
The lowest price I've seen for a D5000 with 18-55 and 55-200 was $800.
It's discontinued now.

Thanx wetsnot for the clarrification.
I will pass on this....!!

[Vasyl]

what is your thought on this one?
I understand in US Costco -

Nikon D5000 kit with 55MM and 200 MM lens + Bag + 4GB SD Card - 749.99 + Tax at Costco

Whats Included:

Nikon D5000 Digital SLR Camera
AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR (Image Stabilization)
AF-S DX VR Zoom-NIKKOR 55-200mm f/4-5.6G IF-ED (Image Stabilization)
4GB SD Card
Carrying Case
EN-EL9a Rechargeable Li-ion Battery
Quick Charger
USB Cable
A/V Cable
Strap
Software Suite CD-ROM



http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11480706&whse=BC&topnav=&cat=87150&b=1&lang=en-US&SessionID=a125dab4-b79b-4ee4-a279-3683c655b23e

What about warranty and stuff? will it be covered by Canada Costco?

It will be covered by Canadian Costco and thus you do not need a Nikon warranty.

[pompoco]

It will be covered by Canadian Costco and thus you do not need a Nikon warranty.

partially right ;)

It will be covered under the Costco concierge service for the first year....
Nikon gives usually 2years on the Body and 5years on the lenses. Nikon Canada also doesn't honour the US warranty and therefore you'd be OOL after the first year if something should happen.
Depends if the savings are woth that. Canon Canada is easier as they honour the northamerican warranty and in some cases even "grey" imports over the international warranty, depending on where they were purchased. But it's only one year anyways ;)
Sigma and Tamron don't honour cross border warranties as well.
Sigma/Gentec "punishes" you with a steep "handling fee" and have 5-10years warranty
Tamron/Amplis might accept it since you register the lens online and have usually 6 years warranty but a repair center handles it and might refuse and make you pay
Tokina.... no idea....

[Vasyl]

partially right ;)

It will be covered under the Costco convierge service for the first year....
Nikon gives usually 2years on the Body and 5years on the lenses. Nikon Canada also doesn't honour the US warranty and therefore you'd be OOL after the first year if something should happen.
Depends if the savings are woth that. Canon Canada is easier as they honour the northamerican warranty and in some cases even "grey" imports over the international warranty, depending on where they were purchased. But it's only one year anyways ;)
Sigma and Tamron don't honour cross border warranties as well.
Sigma/Gentec "punishes" you with a steep "handling fee" and have 5-10years warranty
Tamron/Amplis might accept it since you register the lens online and have usually 6 years warranty but a repair center handles it and might refuse and make you pay
Tokina.... no idea....

No, it is 100% right, convierge service ( I have no idea what it is) has nothing to do with the warranty. If the camera is defective, Costco covers it for life. You only can exchange the camera within 3 months if you are not happy, but if something goes wrong with the camera down the road, satisfaction guaranteed within the reasonable time-frame.

[pompoco]

No, it is 100% right, convierge service ( I have no idea what it is) has nothing to do with the warranty. If the camera is defective, Costco covers it for life. You only can exchange the camera within 3 months if you are not happy, but if something goes wrong with the camera down the road, satisfaction guaranteed within the reasonable time-frame.

:lol:
OK if you say so... you didn't notice the change in the return policy for electronics a while (1-2yrs) ago at costco?
2yrs max warranty covered through their concierge service and 90 days return/rebuy.
When you hit customer service after 90days they friendly refer you to the concierge service number and even give you a new pamphlet if you lost yours.
I don't know how it is handled in other countries but that's the way it goes in canada.

[wetsnot]

Nikon D7000 w 18-105 Vistek $1449
http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

One Day Deal

[lovejones11]

Nikon D7000 w 18-105 Vistek $1449
http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

One Day Deal

Just picked up a D7000 body at Henry's for $1230+tax. would it be better to buy this and try to sell the lens? Dont need the lens as I have another...?

[wetsnot]

Just picked up a D7000 body at Henry's for $1230+tax. would it be better to buy this and try to sell the lens? Dont need the lens as I have another...?

FYI, the D7000 body only is going for $1143.99 at Mostly Digital

http://www.mostlydigital.ca/product/H149853

Beware of shipping.

[lovejones11]

FYI, the D7000 body only is going for $1143.99 at Mostly Digital

http://www.mostlydigital.ca/product/H149853

Beware of shipping.


Thanks! time to go back for some price protection...

[dorkus99]

Nikon D7000 w 18-105 Vistek $1449
http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

One Day Deal

Since when did One Day Deals start up again? And wasent there only supposed to be 11 days? Im a little confused.
Me thinks Vistek is trying to pawn off crappy "sales" as DEALS by continously using this one day deals thing. Is it a good thing? Sure.. as long as the "Deals" are truly deals! I just get the feeling that some exec's up at Vistek saw that they sold out almost all their Daily deals and figured it was a good idea to keep doing this for stuff they dont usualy sell a lot of.

[wetsnot]

was wondering if another deal of the day would come up.

And it has:

Canon 7D Body $1449
http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

[funkymonkeypurpledishwasher]

Not sure how hot this is as I dont know anything about DSLR's,

in the Best Buy flyers for this week (Jan 14 - 20th)
(samsung) NX100 14.6MP DSLR camaera and 50-200 mm telephoto zoom lens for $699.99
and 499.99 for just the camera

And in Walmart flyer:
Canon Rebel XS digital SLR camera $448

[Ruf996]

Anyone know where I can find a Olympus E-5 body in Toronto?

[Ben Doone]

was wondering if another deal of the day would come up.

And it has:

Canon 7D Body $1449
http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

Not bad..picked this up on boxing day at Merkle 7D $1399.

[NuggyBuggy]

From an optical point of view, Sony can't touch Canon/Nikon but as a piece of electronic equipment, the SLT A55 has it's place that is largely leveraged on Sony's reputation than SLT's technical merits.
You're crazy. Sony has some awesome Zeiss glass for the alpha mount. AFAIK, neither Canon nor Nikon even has Zeiss lenses available which can autofocus, and optically, that glass is as good as just about anything else out there, Canon, Nikon or otherwise. Incidentally, I am a Nikon user.

[wetsnot]

Not sure how hot this is as I dont know anything about DSLR's,

in the Best Buy flyers for this week (Jan 14 - 20th)
(samsung) NX100 14.6MP DSLR camaera and 50-200 mm telephoto zoom lens for $699.99
and 499.99 for just the camera

And in Walmart flyer:
Canon Rebel XS digital SLR camera $448

The double lens NX100 is an ok price that was the holiday price.
Henry's has the single for $499.99 currently.

[GunnerX]

Anyone know where I can find a Olympus E-5 body in Toronto?

Haven't seen any discounts on the E5 yet. Still keeping my eye open for one. Henry's has it at regular price.

[wetsnot]

Anyone know where I can find a Olympus E-5 body in Toronto?

Vistek and Henrys

http://www.henrys.ca/62060-OLYMPUS-E-5-DIGITAL-SLR-BODY.aspx
http://www.vistek.ca/store/CameraLenses/252447/a.aspx

[Ruf996]

Vistek and Henrys

http://www.henrys.ca/62060-OLYMPUS-E-5-DIGITAL-SLR-BODY.aspx
http://www.vistek.ca/store/CameraLenses/252447/a.aspx


Both are not in stock...

[wetsnot]

Both are not in stock...

you can probably have it special ordered if you want it badly enough.

[wetsnot]

Canon 50D with 17-85 - $999.99 at Black's

[Pilleh]

Canon 50D with 17-85 - $999.99 at Black's

damn already OOS!!!!!

[dslrnewb]

damn already OOS!!!!!


Why so sad. Either buy it used or get 60D. The 17-85IS lens is not that great anyway so get the 18-55IS instead to save even more. 40D and 50D differences are negligable as well so in reality you could get a kit similar (or even better) in the used market for less than half price ($400 for 40D body and $80 for 18-55IS lens). If you are worried about warranty worst case it can happen to body is shutter gone ($200 repair) and as for the lens you buy another one for $80 ;)

[dkq]

you can probably have it special ordered if you want it badly enough.

I am very skeptical on Oly although I owned several camera in the past and now I still own a couple.

They are very sloooow on SLR advancement these days and clearly m4/3rd is their "future" they are betting on ... once again as their marketing department's belief.

If people are desperate for Oly SLR features but not own too many lenses (there lenses are good IMHO), then Sony A33/55 is the way to go. Actually going A33/55 is sort of feature up if you care, Sony makes their own sesnors so they never need to beg sb. like Panasonic for a chip ... in fact Sony is making sensors for other makers too.

All in all, DSLR is like a PC with "eyes", E5 is more suited to ppl who does not switch gears too often, giving the fact the E6/7 route is not defined and you need wait longer with quite big uncertainty.

[Pilleh]

Why so sad. Either buy it used or get 60D. The 17-85IS lens is not that great anyway so get the 18-55IS instead to save even more. 40D and 50D differences are negligable as well so in reality you could get a kit similar (or even better) in the used market for less than half price ($400 for 40D body and $80 for 18-55IS lens). If you are worried about warranty worst case it can happen to body is shutter gone ($200 repair) and as for the lens you buy another one for $80 ;)

o i wasnt sad.... more surprised that it was already OOS - i like the 17-85is i have it on my t1i, it serves its purpose until i get the gear i want :)

[doggonefunny]

damn already OOS!!!!!

This has not been available at BLACK'S for awhile-even when it was $100 more expensive.I doubt anyone was able to get one of these .OOS all week

Too bad.Great body with a dissapointing lens IMO.Not for Video

[Ruf996]

I am very skeptical on Oly although I owned several camera in the past and now I still own a couple.

They are very sloooow on SLR advancement these days and clearly m4/3rd is their "future" they are betting on ... once again as their marketing department's belief.

If people are desperate for Oly SLR features but not own too many lenses (there lenses are good IMHO), then Sony A33/55 is the way to go. Actually going A33/55 is sort of feature up if you care, Sony makes their own sesnors so they never need to beg sb. like Panasonic for a chip ... in fact Sony is making sensors for other makers too.

All in all, DSLR is like a PC with "eyes", E5 is more suited to ppl who does not switch gears too often, giving the fact the E6/7 route is not defined and you need wait longer with quite big uncertainty.

I have been using the E3, and wanted to upgrade to E-5 because of the no AA filter for sharper crop images, slightly better ISO, and great out of camera JPEGS, saves me the time to PP RAW. As for Sony, I don’t really like their DSLR from A900 to NEX, one of the worst in built quality IMO. They are great cameras, but they just don’t appeal to me.

I already own a few Zuilkos, the 50mm f2.0 macro is the sharpest 50mm I every own, coming from Nikon 1.4 D & the G on FF... I am sticking with Olympus because of the Zuikos.

At this price point, I can't seem to find a better combo for me. I know... many are telling me to dump the Olympus and go for K5/D7000, being a dead end system. But Nikon/Pentax mid to low end lens primes are not up to par with the Zuikos, been there and done that. But I do really like the 85 1.4G.... which is $2k...

[intravino]

You're crazy. Sony has some awesome Zeiss glass for the alpha mount. AFAIK, neither Canon nor Nikon even has Zeiss lenses available which can autofocus, and optically, that glass is as good as just about anything else out there, Canon, Nikon or otherwise. Incidentally, I am a Nikon user.


Yes,that is right but the Minolta G series lenses are very hot also. The APO G zoom series had gems that were rated much better then Canon and Nikon. I have somewhere some tests from some magazines that raved about the Minolta G series.

[GunnerX]

I have been using the E3, and wanted to upgrade to E-5 because of the no AA filter for sharper crop images, slightly better ISO, and great out of camera JPEGS, saves me the time to PP RAW. As for Sony, I don’t really like their DSLR from A900 to NEX, one of the worst in built quality IMO. They are great cameras, but they just don’t appeal to me.

I already own a few Zuilkos, the 50mm f2.0 macro is the sharpest 50mm I every own, coming from Nikon 1.4 D & the G on FF... I am sticking with Olympus because of the Zuikos.

At this price point, I can't seem to find a better combo for me. I know... many are telling me to dump the Olympus and go for K5/D7000, being a dead end system. But Nikon/Pentax mid to low end lens primes are not up to par with the Zuikos, been there and done that. But I do really like the 85 1.4G.... which is $2k...

+1 That 50mm f2 is my fave. I have the E1 and E3 and will be adding the E5 to that list. Lozeau in Montreal has it for $100 less with free shipping. Give them a call to see if it's in stock. Let me know if they do. :D

http://www.lozeau.com/product.aspx?NavID=24555&CultureCode=en-CA

[Ruf996]

+1 That 50mm f2 is my fave. I have the E1 and E3 and will be adding the E5 to that list. Lozeau in Montreal has it for $100 less with free shipping. Give them a call to see if it's in stock. Let me know if they do. :D

http://www.lozeau.com/product.aspx?NavID=24555&CultureCode=en-CA

Yes, I have called them, and most likely be ordering from them. Better yet to get McBain to price match Lozeau, and save 1 Tax. But they on back order from Olympus. =(

[wetsnot]

Nikon AF-S 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6 G ED VR II DX Telephoto Zoom Lens $319.95

Vistek's Deal of the Day

[uglyguy]

Would anyone know any good deal on Nikon AFS 50mm F1.4?

Thanks,

[timeoninternet]

Would anyone know any good deal on Nikon AFS 50mm F1.4?

Thanks,

+1, looking for that one too for deal!

[mclearn]

+1, looking for that one too for deal!

Best I can see is USD $475 with shipping and duties to Ontario:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585343-GREY/Nikon_2180_AF_S_Nikkor_50mm_f_1_4G.html

[user01]

BB: Canon 50mm f1.8 II Lens back on sale $99.99 but you have to buy a DSLR to get it for that price

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/bb-canon-50mm-f1-8-ii-lens-back-sale-99-99-a-992020/

[uglyguy]

Best I can see is USD $475 with shipping and duties to Ontario:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585343-GREY/Nikon_2180_AF_S_Nikkor_50mm_f_1_4G.html

VERY HOT at $410USD. Too bad it's not Canadian. I never bought anything from BH. What about the warranty?

[milhaus]

Nikon AF-S 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6 G ED VR II DX Telephoto Zoom Lens $319.95

Vistek's Deal of the Day
Any lens review, by any chance? I wanted the 70-300VR, but might not have the 16-85 for much longer, so might go with this one. How much better is the 70-300VR?

[pompoco]

VERY HOT at $410USD. Too bad it's not Canadian. I never bought anything from BH. What about the warranty?

None. Nikon doesn't honour cross border warranties. sux if you buy here you get 5years on a lens save a few dollars....
Merkle has it for $495
Or go with the "oldschool" AF 50mm 1.4D for $345 if you don't need AF-S to focus.

[Blitzo]

Any lens review, by any chance? I wanted the 70-300VR, but might not have the 16-85 for much longer, so might go with this one. How much better is the 70-300VR?

Its a bit better. Better optics, and can be used on a full frame nikon. The 55-300 can't.

I bought the 70-300mm and price matched with Aden's price at henry's because FS and BB didn't have stock. Well worth their sale price - even the guy at henry's couldn't believe aden's price. Even cheaper than the going rate in US.

I don't think the sale is still on at Aden's. Check my reply to this thread a while back here: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/dslr-camera-megathread-nikon-af-s-55-300mm-319-95-a-976343/22/

[soupnazi]

Canon 60D DSLR & 18-200mm lens $1249 @ MemoryExpress. Similar to Boxing Day prices which is pretty warm if you're in GVRD. The body is usually $1000 and that lens is usually $600.
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX30333(ME).aspx?cc=1

Sale Ends: 1/21/2011 9:00:00 PM

Online Store stock: 1 ?!
Richmond BC store stock: 6

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Images/Products/L/MX30333-0.jpg

[marf]

None. Nikon doesn't honour cross border warranties. sux if you buy here you get 5years on a lens save a few dollars....
Merkle has it for $495
Or go with the "oldschool" AF 50mm 1.4D for $345 if you don't need AF-S to focus.

I thought that Nikon honors Canadian/American Lens warranties, but Body warranties they wouldn't? Or is it the other way around?

[pompoco]

I thought that Nikon honors Canadian/American Lens warranties, but Body warranties they wouldn't? Or is it the other way around?

Neither, even US import is grey market since it is not coming through Nikon Canadas (http://help.nikon.ca/app/answers/detail/a_id/5546)official channels



What is Grey Market?
What is Grey Market?Generally, a manufacturer works with a single importer who can sell and support their products in a given region. The importer usually has local dealers and distributors who resell the imported products; this is called a "distribution channel". Grey Market refers to merchandise that is imported and sold by methods other than these normal channels.

For local safety regulations and certifications (FCC, CE, UL, etc.) and government requirements a manufacturer provides special packaging (manuals in the appropriate language, power cables designed for the local receptacle, etc.) and product engineering designed to meet local codes. Manufacturers also have service and support agreements with the authorized importer.

Grey Market items are not designed to be sold in a particular market and cannot be supported by the authorized importer because they may not meet mandatory safety and certification codes. Because these items are not designed for a particular market they may not function properly, or the authorized importer may not be equipped to provide service, support or software.

With the opening of international borders and the use of the Internet to sell goods, Grey Market equipment has become extremely common in the photographic and consumer electronics markets. Many different types of equipment are brought into Canada for sale without the proper documentation and Canadian consumers do not always know what they are purchasing.

Because the resellers' cost is less they can sell Grey Market items for less. Unfortunately this price savings is only on the initial purchase; because service and support is more difficult to obtain it may end up costing the consumer more in the long run.

Who is the authorized importer of Nikon Equipment into Canada?
Nikon Canada Inc. is the sole authorized importer of Nikon Corporation of Japan for photographic devices. Goods are then distributed to Nikon country subsidiary and distributor offices who pay shipping into the local country, import duties and taxes, and provide service and support for these products. Nikon Canada Inc. ensures that the products they import are fully certified and safe for use in the Canadian market.


How do I know if my Nikon product is "Grey Market"?
One of the first indicators that a piece of Nikon merchandise might be Grey Market is if the price is considerably less than most other resellers. Additionally, a genuine product sold by a Nikon country subsidiary or distributor office will include a User Manual in the local language. Any other language on the printed material indicates a Grey Market item. Another indication of a Gray Market product would be photocopied manuals or manually created software CD's. Nikon offices in Canada always provide professionally printed or duplicated materials with genuine products.


What does owning a "Grey Market" Nikon product mean to you?
Nikon Canada offices cannot provide any technical support or warranty service on Grey Market items. Additionally Nikon Canada offices cannot perform any fee-based repair work on Grey Market items. Please do not contact your local Nikon office for help with any Grey Market products. Please contact the reseller or importer of your Grey Market items for warranty and service information as well as software updates and downloads.

Does owning a "Grey Market" Nikon product mean I don't have a warranty?
No, all Nikon products come with a warranty by the manufacturer. The designated Nikon service center will always repair "in warranty" Nikon products and perform "out of warranty" repairs. If you own a Grey Market product it will need to be returned to the reseller or importer for service. Refer to your reseller for service contact information.


Photoprice (http://www.photoprice.ca/article/warranty-us-canada-grey-market) info on warranties....

[andreid]

Better photography than most CANONs and with weatherproof lenses: http://www.abesofmaine.com/item.do?item=PNK72LK&id=PNK72LK&&kbid=%2a

[Captain Snazzypants]

Canon 60D DSLR & 18-200mm lens $1249 @ MemoryExpress. Similar to Boxing Day prices which is pretty warm if you're in GVRD. The body is usually $1000 and that lens is usually $600.
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX30333(ME).aspx?cc=1


Has the 60D body only ever dropped below $949. The best option is to PM this ME or the Vistek price of $949 with free shipping at BB where it's $1199, or FS where it's $1099 - hoping to do a bit better..

[soupnazi]

Has the 60D body only ever dropped below $949. The best option is to PM this ME or the Vistek price of $949 with free shipping at BB where it's $1199, or FS where it's $1099 - hoping to do a bit better..

I think cheapest I've seen the body is $899 during boxing day.

[alloy]

Has the 60D body only ever dropped below $949. The best option is to PM this ME or the Vistek price of $949 with free shipping at BB where it's $1199, or FS where it's $1099 - hoping to do a bit better..

I got mine with a PM of Vistek at Best Buy for $880 plus tax last week. Vistek has an advertised price of $949 but when they called to confirm stock, the person at Vistek (Ottawa) said the price was really $900. You may wish to call a local Vistek and see what the real price is.

[SSJChar]

does vistek have "One Day Deals" everyday? I'm hoping they'll have the Nikon 35mm 1.8f lens on sale someday soon, but if they don't have a deal a day i might a well not keep on refreshing the page.

[alander]

Guys, does anyone know a place where I can get a good deal on Canon 7D body only? I missed the Vistek's one day sale couple days ago when it was for 1,449... Btw, I keep checking the Photoprice. Just thought I'd check.

[Pepsidewd]

http://www.adorama.com/ICA7DR.html

This is a Canon 7D refurb for 1,339.95$. According to the Canon rep I spoke to, the quality control is so high at Canon that refurb bodies are very rare. He thinks these are more like open boxes returned and then got checked out by Canon Service so they have to be called Refurb. He said this is a great deal.

[CH40Z_008]

any better deals on 60D body only and/or kit lens... Thanks!

[motionpicturephoto]

Last updated: Jan 13

Canon 50D with 17-85 - $999.99 at Black's
http://www.blacks.ca/blacks/jump/product/9395/x/x/x/product.jsp?skuId=9395&prdId=9395&bauth=1

]

One is available at the downtown location even though they say it's sold out.

[ardant]

http://www.adorama.com/ICA7DR.html

This is a Canon 7D refurb for 1,339.95$. According to the Canon rep I spoke to, the quality control is so high at Canon that refurb bodies are very rare. He thinks these are more like open boxes returned and then got checked out by Canon Service so they have to be called Refurb. He said this is a great deal.

+1 on the refurb quality, but... after tax+s&h the price comes out to $1608 CAD (photoprice has this calculated in the box over the price on their 7D page (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/02849/Canon-EOS-7D-price.html)), which is only $100 less than buying in Canada ($1705 all-in). $103 more for new, it might be worth it...

[wetsnot]

Sony A33 w 18-55 - Black's $699.99
Canon EF 17-40mm f4L USM - Broadway $739.99
Sony NEX5 w 18-55 - PM BB and FS $667.99

[phled]

End of line, but still a pretty good deal if you're looking for a cheap 'beginner' DSLR:

Evolt E620 12.3MP Digital SLR Camera Bundle with 14-42mm Lens, Case, 1GB XD Card and 2 Year Service
$499.99

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Digital_SLR/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=A4471849&~ck=baynoteSearch&baynote_bnrank=7&baynote_irrank=0

[MUSKAMIKE]

I've been looking for a good price point for a GH2 w/14-140. Found London Drugs selling at 1599$
They have the GH1 and GF1 as well.

Im heading into Vancouver tomorrow, and I know it's a long shot, but could anyone recommend a retailer in that area that could do better?

thanks!

[thl0103]

Sony A33 w 18-55 - Black's $699.99
Canon EF 17-40mm f4L USM - Broadway $739.99
Sony NEX5 w 18-55 - PM BB and FS $667.99

Sony NEX5 w 18-55 - is on sale for $649.99 at Black's.
PM with best buy's $799.99, you can get it for $634.99

[xanta]

Sony NEX5 w 18-55 - is on sale for $649.99 at Black's.
PM with best buy's $799.99, you can get it for $634.99

Got mine for $599. 18-55mm len.

[thl0103]

Got mine for $599. 18-55mm len.

Was this recently?
Could you tell me where please?
Thanks

[skulpt]

Sony NEX5 w 18-55 - is on sale for $649.99 at Black's.
PM with best buy's $799.99, you can get it for $634.99

Saw that today at a local Blacks as well. Does it matter though that Blacks nex 5 is silver and other stores have the black model?

[xanta]

Was this recently?
Could you tell me where please?
Thanks

It was before Christmas at BB. They sold out of open box which was $599. So, sold me a new one for the same price. So YMMV.

[timeoninternet]

very hot at $410usd. Too bad it's not canadian. I never bought anything from bh. What about the warranty?


temporarily unavailable

[pompoco]

Canon 60D DSLR & 18-200mm lens $1249 @ MemoryExpress. Similar to Boxing Day prices which is pretty warm if you're in GVRD. The body is usually $1000 and that lens is usually $600.
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX30333(ME).aspx?cc=1


They altered the deal, pray that they don't alter it any further..... >:(

it's $1350 now until the 28. jan. 2011.



Robochicken.... (http://youtu.be/BwF7n8WyOoU)

[ardant]

They altered the deal, pray that they don't alter it any further..... >:(

it's $1350 now until the 28. jan. 2011.


The deal at Lozeau (http://www.lozeau.com/product.aspx?NavID=24372&CultureCode=en-CA) is better than the new MX deal, $1330, with free ship, free bag and 8 GB card (better than nothing). Found via photoprice (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03334/Canon-EOS-60D-with-18-200-Kit-price.html), which I just noticed lists MemoryExpress now too!

[wetsnot]

Saw that today at a local Blacks as well. Does it matter though that Blacks nex 5 is silver and other stores have the black model?

yes. usually they don't let you pm unless it's 100% the same.
but then sometimes they aren't careful.

[Réal de Montréal]

There is a promo on now @ simonscameras.com in MTL for the same kit :
Canon 60D with EF-S 18-200mm IS lens
+ Extra battery, Lens-Hood LH-78D, Lenspen, Bag
for $1,329.95 CDN

[faken]

There's a guy in the photography section looking to sell his 60D to go back to his 5D. He's selling it for $875 in the B&S section. If you're looking for a deal for the body, i'd get this. Just trying to save someone money if they plan on getting a 60D.

[lpsaad]

There's a guy in the photography section looking to sell his 60D to go back to his 5D. He's selling it for $875 in the B&S section. If you're looking for a deal for the body, i'd get this. Just trying to save someone money if they plan on getting a 60D.

Lol is that the guy who traded his 5D for a 60D? Hahaha:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

[wetsnot]

Nikon D7000 w 18-105 at Vistek and Mostly Digital
pretty close final price after shipping
check op

[klutzo]

Lol is that the guy who traded his 5D for a 60D? Hahaha:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

I'm guessing he had a 5D Mk I, then went to 60D, then going to the 5D Mk II. However, he may find he wants to go for the Mk III when it's out. Apparently this year. :)

[Sandro_Bit]

what are my chances of getting a trade for my SONY HD Camcorder for a used 5D MK2 Body?

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/sony-hdr-xr550v-240gig-hd-camcorder-lenses-tripod-shotgun-mic-4-yr-warranty-993342/

[wetsnot]

what are my chances of getting a trade for my SONY HD Camcorder for a used 5D MK2 Body?

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/sony-hdr-xr550v-240gig-hd-camcorder-lenses-tripod-shotgun-mic-4-yr-warranty-993342/

slim considering the going price for a new 5D MkII and it's popularity.

you're better of selling and then using the funds to buy a used one rather than a straight trade.

[scottyboy2k5]

meritline flash diffuser on sale for $1.99USD shipped

use coupon MLCK169275012050AL1

http://www.meritline.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=38610&SEName=flash-diffuser

[koffey]

Hi Guys,

I'm trying to find out the best camera for my buck. I would like something that isn't top of the line, but not bottom either. I have no camera experience with DSLRs whatsoever. There is no plan to be a photographer, but I wouldn't mind at least attempting to pick it up as a hobby. I basically want it for when I have my baby and to be able to take multiple photos per second, not have to worry about bad pictures, and the ability to do some focus/zoom and just take nice 'professional' pictures by myself.

I have tried reading all the documents to ensure that I have the knowledge and understand the lingo as well, what would or would not interest me, but I'm really having a hard time. I don't really understand a lot of the options, Art filter stuff and len options.

What would you people recommend?

I was looking below the Nikon D3100 from Blacks for 650$, but again, I'm not sure what I'm buying or if it is a decent price. I'm confused.
I also seen the one from Dell, Olympus for $499, but someone said good for a beginner, but bottom of the barrel.
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Digital_SLR/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=A4471849&~ck=baynoteSearch&ba&dgc=AF&cid=3881&lid=77903&acd=CAqD7bLWUPI-HcgIXhwsox8V0UUgoxBKUw

[coolman217]

QUESTION!

Do you need video as well? That would help your decision as well.
Budget?
Brand preference?

[koffey]

Do you need video as well? That would help your decision as well.
Budget?
Brand preference?

Thanks for replying.
Video would be a great asset.
I wouldn't want to spend over $1000. The cheaper the better.

Here are some that I was looking at.

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-entry-level-dslr-cameras?tag=

The top entry is just or more expensive then mid range? Confused.

[Pine]

I was looking below the Nikon D3100 from Blacks for 650$, but again, I'm not sure what I'm buying or if it is a decent price. I'm confused.
I also seen the one from Dell, Olympus for $499, but someone said good for a beginner, but bottom of the barrel.
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Digital_SLR/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=A4471849&~ck=baynoteSearch&ba&dgc=AF&cid=3881&lid=77903&acd=CAqD7bLWUPI-HcgIXhwsox8V0UUgoxBKUw

I was in the exact same situation as you. I was looking at the D3100 for weeks prior and during boxing day, and when it went on sale for $650 at a few places, I decided to buy. It was out of stock everywhere, including Bestbuy and Target in Buffalo. I found a small Camera store Downtown called "Downtown Camera" on Queen, where the price seemed too good to be true. I called them, but they were out of stock as well. I kept calling them everyday so I could get it right away when it came into stock for their price. Rushed down there as soon as it was in stock, got it for $599 w/ the 18-55mm VR kit lens. Came out to $675 after taxes. I couldn't be happier with my decision. It shoots absolutely great photos, you learn how to control every bit of it really fast, and it's very lightweight for a camera of its features. I also really like the lens. Also shoots 1080p/24 FPS video, which I like to have available to me if I like. The flash is great, and the battery never seems to run out. I would definitely recommend you get it.

Definitely recommend the D1300, amazing for the price.

[fruchick]

Possibly warm? Don's Photo (Winnipeg-based, totally reputable) is clearing out the Sony A330 and A380.

Sorry, url fail... Just hit up http://www.donsphoto.com

[wetsnot]

meritline flash diffuser on sale for $1.99USD shipped

use coupon MLCK169275012050AL1

http://www.meritline.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=38610&SEName=flash-diffuser

Thanks!
Posted to the OP.

[coolman217]

Thanks for replying.
Video would be a great asset.
I wouldn't want to spend over $1000. The cheaper the better.

Here are some that I was looking at.

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-entry-level-dslr-cameras?tag=

The top entry is just or more expensive then mid range? Confused.


The gap between the top entry and some of the mid range are so close together, becomes an overlap in price.
If you look at the Canon T2i and the 50D, the prices aren't that far apart even though functionality is different. With 50D, you sacrifice the video function (compared to T2i) but you gain high fps, better quality (metal body), and much more.

You really can't go wrong with Nikon or Canon. Just gotta compare the functions to see if it suits your needs.

www.dpreview.com
they have a side to side comparison, including DSLRs. Nikon D90 with 18-105mm lens may just suit your needs completely.

[|Naruto|]

I'm looking at upgrading my T1i kit lens to something better, anyone want to recommend a good lens? Nothing professional though ($1000+), I mainly use my camera for special occasions and vacations so I was thinking maybe around the $300-500 area? or slightly higher, i'm not sure...I don't know much about cameras haha. I also got a Canon zoom lens, forgot the specs for that, it might be 55mm-250mm?

Since I'm going on a cruise soon, was thinking of upgrading my lens since it's already been more than a yr and it's time for something better :)

[pulsar123]

Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 (non VC - no image stabilization) costs ~400$ (more than twice cheaper than a similar offering from Canon), and has good reviews.

[Sandro_Bit]

slim considering the going price for a new 5D MkII and it's popularity.

you're better of selling and then using the funds to buy a used one rather than a straight trade.

thanks for the advice

[lindmar]

I'm looking at upgrading my T1i kit lens to something better, anyone want to recommend a good lens? Nothing professional though ($1000+), I mainly use my camera for special occasions and vacations so I was thinking maybe around the $300-500 area? or slightly higher, i'm not sure...I don't know much about cameras haha. I also got a Canon zoom lens, forgot the specs for that, it might be 55mm-250mm?

Since I'm going on a cruise soon, was thinking of upgrading my lens since it's already been more than a yr and it's time for something better :)


That is a good lens for the cruise. Actually perfect.


For inside the cruise, get the nifty fifty 1.8 for 99 bucks.
Done.

[pompoco]

Hi Guys,

I'm trying to find out the best camera for my buck.....

Here (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/x/10129617.aspx) you go, Canon PowerShot SX120 IS. N,o seriously!, you can't do better at the moment!

Review of the Camera (http://www.digitalreview.ca/content/Canon-PowerShot-SX120-IS-Review.shtml) and all that for only $150...

[milhaus]

Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 (non VC - no image stabilization) costs ~400$ (more than twice cheaper than a similar offering from Canon), and has good reviews. Yup. I would say you have two options, under $1000. The Canon 15-85IS, or that Tamron, with or without VC. I got mine for $275 used, great and sharp copy with no front focusing issues. The 15-85 gives you better range, and is very sharp, but isn't very fast.

[user01]

I just notice Aden Camera's site is under construction, they changing the design of the website.

[ggweci]

Yup. I would say you have two options, under $1000. The Canon 15-85IS, or that Tamron, with or without VC. I got mine for $275 used, great and sharp copy with no front focusing issues. The 15-85 gives you better range, and is very sharp, but isn't very fast.

Plus there's the new Sigma 17-50 HSM OS for around $800. It's getting pretty good reviews. Checked it out in store and AF was fast and quiet, plus the build quality was top notch. It also comes with a hood (unlike the Canons) and a 10 year mfg warranty.

[Phalanx]

I just notice Aden Camera's site is under construction, they changing the design of the website.

They did that last week also. noticed it at night time then changed back in the afternoon. I wonder if they have settled on it yet.

[wetsnot]

Canon 50mm f1.8 Mark II the nifty fifty - $99.99 at Memory Express or $119.99 at FS

Canon 50D with 17-85 - Black's $899.99

Canon 60D with 18-135 - FS $ 1249.99

Pentax K-r body - Vistek $599.95


Links on OP

[sixteen12]

Hmm wondering if I should wait for a deal on the Sony A55 or go with a Nikon D3100 or Canon Rebel T2i or Pentax K-r now.

Beginer DSLR user, experienced with my p and shoot. Want to do scenary, architecture and some sports.

[no8t4]

Hopefully someone experience can chime in and give me a little advice.

I'm a beginner user looking to get an entry level camera. I have been looking at the Canon XS and T1i as well as the Nikon D5000. I think the majority of my shooting would be landscape/architectural. I don't imagine myself doing too much fast motion. Low light pictures would probably come into play as well.

After reading some reviews, the T1i is supposed to have sub-par low light performance compared to the competition. Now, that reviewer didn't provide any samples. so i'm hoping for some anecdotal reviews. as a beginner user, would i even notice the difference?

Between the two Canons, is it worth the jump from the XS? I'm weighing in on the T1i more because it has video recording. but not sure if it's worthwhile or not. not sure if i would notice an obvious the other differences between the two picture quality wise.

Looking for some input! thanks!

[dorkus99]

Hopefully someone experience can chime in and give me a little advice.

I'm a beginner user looking to get an entry level camera. I have been looking at the Canon XS and T1i as well as the Nikon D5000. I think the majority of my shooting would be landscape/architectural. I don't imagine myself doing too much fast motion. Low light pictures would probably come into play as well.

After reading some reviews, the T1i is supposed to have sub-par low light performance compared to the competition. Now, that reviewer didn't provide any samples. so i'm hoping for some anecdotal reviews. as a beginner user, would i even notice the difference?

Between the two Canons, is it worth the jump from the XS? I'm weighing in on the T1i more because it has video recording. but not sure if it's worthwhile or not. not sure if i would notice an obvious the other differences between the two picture quality wise.

Looking for some input! thanks!

Hello
the T1i is definately better than the XS.. XS is super entry level and in my opinion pretty terrible. Since I'm a canon guy I honesly can't comment on which is better between the T1i and the Nikon D5000, because I have never tried the D5000. www.dpreview.com can be your friend in comparing cameras. Go to the buying guide and use the side-by-side comparison.

[pulsar123]

Re: the Canon 50D with 17-85mm for 900$ at Blacks: I called the local store, and she said that it is out of stock everywhere except perhaps for one in Erin Mills Town Centre (905)569-3961 5100 Erin Mills Parkway Mississauga. So anyone interested could give them a call.

[no8t4]

Hello
the T1i is definately better than the XS.. XS is super entry level and in my opinion pretty terrible. Since I'm a canon guy I honesly can't comment on which is better between the T1i and the Nikon D5000, because I have never tried the D5000. www.dpreview.com can be your friend in comparing cameras. Go to the buying guide and use the side-by-side comparison.

Thanks for your input.
I was thinking the same thing. If the XS will cause a limitation once I've become a more avid user and I'd end up having to get a new body after a short time. I've been reading the articles on dpreview as well. but didn't know there was a side by side. makes it a little bit easier to compare. thanks! gonna look at them.

Also if anyone with experience on either camera can comment on the ease of use/user interface, that'd be great too!

[dorkus99]

Thanks for your input.
I was thinking the same thing. If the XS will cause a limitation once I've become a more avid user and I'd end up having to get a new body after a short time. I've been reading the articles on dpreview as well. but didn't know there was a side by side. makes it a little bit easier to compare. thanks! gonna look at them.

Also if anyone with experience on either camera can comment on the ease of use/user interface, that'd be great too!

I've always liked Canon's user interface. Has always been fairly intuative to me. Nikon does have some nice little features in their interface which show you a little aperture picture that changes as you change f values and such. Good for beginners learning what things mean because its more visual. Before you decide either way you really should walk into a FS or BB and try out either camera. You may find that one of them fits your hands better than the other or that there is a certain design in the body that you really could not get comfortable with. Body shapes do differ a bit between Nikon and Canon and some people prefer one over the other just because of that. Since im a Canon guy, I do like how the Canon bodies feel in my hands, and Im so used to the interface its actually a little hard for me to use a Nikon.. I tried using a friend of mine's once or twice and I had to rely on shooting more Auto than manual.

[wetsnot]

Re: the Canon 50D with 17-85mm for 900$ at Blacks: I called the local store, and she said that it is out of stock everywhere except perhaps for one in Erin Mills Town Centre (905)569-3961 5100 Erin Mills Parkway Mississauga. So anyone interested could give them a call.

i should stop posting black's sales.
they never have stock.

[sixteen12]

Pentax Kr body for $599 a good deal? No lense though so that would drive up the price to pretty much what the kit costs?

[no8t4]

I've always liked Canon's user interface. Has always been fairly intuative to me. Nikon does have some nice little features in their interface which show you a little aperture picture that changes as you change f values and such. Good for beginners learning what things mean because its more visual. Before you decide either way you really should walk into a FS or BB and try out either camera. You may find that one of them fits your hands better than the other or that there is a certain design in the body that you really could not get comfortable with. Body shapes do differ a bit between Nikon and Canon and some people prefer one over the other just because of that. Since im a Canon guy, I do like how the Canon bodies feel in my hands, and Im so used to the interface its actually a little hard for me to use a Nikon.. I tried using a friend of mine's once or twice and I had to rely on shooting more Auto than manual.

Excellent advice.
I've had the opportunity to hold both in my hands, but not at the same time since i wasn't serious about buying at the time. i'll go check it out as fit and feel is pretty important.
again, thanks for the info on the user interface as well. it sounds like they are both good, just slightly different and would just be a case of getting used to.

[NuggyBuggy]

That is a good lens for the cruise. Actually perfect.


For inside the cruise, get the nifty fifty 1.8 for 99 bucks.
Done.
For the tight quarters of a cruise ship, I'd definitely want to go wider.

[wetsnot]

Pentax Kr body for $599 a good deal? No lense though so that would drive up the price to pretty much what the kit costs?

newegg has the k-r with 18-55 for 643.49 if you're really interesting in a kit lens.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16830184121&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA&cm_mmc=AFC-C8JunctionCA-_-DSLR-_-PENTAX-_-30184121&AID=10592396&PID=3182612

[|Naruto|]

That is a good lens for the cruise. Actually perfect.


For inside the cruise, get the nifty fifty 1.8 for 99 bucks.
Done.


Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 (non VC - no image stabilization) costs ~400$ (more than twice cheaper than a similar offering from Canon), and has good reviews.


Plus there's the new Sigma 17-50 HSM OS for around $800. It's getting pretty good reviews. Checked it out in store and AF was fast and quiet, plus the build quality was top notch. It also comes with a hood (unlike the Canons) and a 10 year mfg warranty.


Yup. I would say you have two options, under $1000. The Canon 15-85IS, or that Tamron, with or without VC. I got mine for $275 used, great and sharp copy with no front focusing issues. The 15-85 gives you better range, and is very sharp, but isn't very fast.

Thank you to the above users for your suggestions! Really appreciate it! I will use these suggestions and do some research and decide which one I should get. So far, it seems like the Tamron lens is the best bang for your buck lens I can get so far. Still got some time to decide before the cruise but this definitely narrows it down. Thanks again!

[kennyhohoho]

I've always liked Canon's user interface. Has always been fairly intuative to me. Nikon does have some nice little features in their interface which show you a little aperture picture that changes as you change f values and such. Good for beginners learning what things mean because its more visual. Before you decide either way you really should walk into a FS or BB and try out either camera. You may find that one of them fits your hands better than the other or that there is a certain design in the body that you really could not get comfortable with. Body shapes do differ a bit between Nikon and Canon and some people prefer one over the other just because of that. Since im a Canon guy, I do like how the Canon bodies feel in my hands, and Im so used to the interface its actually a little hard for me to use a Nikon.. I tried using a friend of mine's once or twice and I had to rely on shooting more Auto than manual.

The thing about BestBuy or Future Shop, is that the display units are usually dummy units without a battery. So you can't really "try it out" so to speak. You can hold it and see what it feels like, but beyond that, there's nothing else you can do with the display units.

If you really want to try out a camera, I would suggest somewhere more like Henrys. They actually give you a working model and even let you shoot with it without it being tethered by the stupid security tags.

[uglyguy]

FYI

Nikon 50mm F1.4 is back in stock with BH $447 all shipped and duty/taxed in.

[starchoice]

Plan to pick up Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS Lens for $237.50. Got a PM at Visions from the BB sale + additional 5%. This pretty well matches the low end from the U.S.

[CBC]

Question for everyone..

I'm only interested in a DLSR for Sharp closeup photos and Landscape/night photos.
I don't really need video capture.

If all i'm interested in these functions, anyone recommend me a good Camera to get + what type of lense?

I have 0 knowledge when it comes to camera.

[wetsnot]

FYI

Nikon 50mm F1.4 is back in stock with BH $447 all shipped and duty/taxed in.

no cross border warranty with nikon

[wetsnot]

Question for everyone..

I'm only interested in a DLSR for Sharp closeup photos and Landscape/night photos.
I don't really need video capture.

If all i'm interested in these functions, anyone recommend me a good Camera to get + what type of lense?

I have 0 knowledge when it comes to camera.

i'm gonna recommend a sturdy tripod.

[wetsnot]

meritline flash diffuser on sale for $1.99USD shipped

use coupon MLCK169275012050AL1

http://www.meritline.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=38610&SEName=flash-diffuser

couldn't resist. not for $1.99
FYI, ships from hong kong.

[checm8]

a newb question, I have an Olympus E pl 1, can I use this lens with it

http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=camera_lens&product=1614015
do I need an adaptor to use this lens

[jande9]

Question for everyone..

I'm only interested in a DLSR for Sharp closeup photos and Landscape/night photos.
I don't really need video capture.

If all i'm interested in these functions, anyone recommend me a good Camera to get + what type of lense?

I have 0 knowledge when it comes to camera.

Books have been written about this.

How will the photos be displayed/used?
How interested are you in learning the craft of photography?
What is your budget?
etc etc etc.

Although compact cameras can be fine, even the cheapest aps-c sensor camera will give you much better quality.

The good news is, all the major makers like Pentax, Nikon, Canon, Sony, Olympus, Panasonic make excellent aps-c cameras with their entry level range going from around $500. up to around 900., including a lens.

Without knowing any more about you it is hard to recommend anything in particular, so I would suggest you visit a few camera stores and see if you can find a sales person that you feel comfortable with and talk things over.

[Blitzo]

couldn't resist. not for $1.99
FYI, ships from hong kong.

Tried to buy something from china via ebay with a 99% rating and haven't received my product and its over 3 months now. I really think buying from china is a big risk. But for $2 its not a big deal if you never get it.

BTW, that item is sold out unfortunately. Was going to make a purchase.

[Uberclk]

a newb question, I have an Olympus E pl 1, can I use this lens with it

http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=camera_lens&product=1614015
do I need an adaptor to use this lens

you will need the Olympus MMF-2 adapter (or Panasonic 4/3 to m4/3 adapter) to use it with your E-PL1.

[sixteen12]

I added a camera kit to my cart from Henry's online site just to see the taxes. When I looked it came to a total:

Promotions: $0.00
Shipping: Congratulations, you qualify for FREE Xpresspost Provinces shipping! $0.00
Taxes: $0.00
Total: $829.99

Are there no taxes charged by Henry's? Or are the included in the displayed price? Normally an online store would show you the taxes and price before you put in CC info.

I don't actually want to order this online, as the Henry's right by my house has it in stock.

[ericdraven]

a newb question, I have an Olympus E pl 1, can I use this lens with it

http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=camera_lens&product=1614015
do I need an adaptor to use this lens



You can always PM this Lens @ Futureshop...

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/olympus-olympus-zuiko-14-150mm-lens-261504/10146579.aspx?path=56c616ff08ef015def03f7d36bfb154 1en02

That's what I did but I bought this Lens from L.L. Lozeau last year...

I ordered the Lens from Futureshop Online and once I got it delivered to me, I then contacted Futureshop CS to PM it...
They said they would check it out and get back to me...
I told them that if they can't do it then I'd return it and get a refund and buy it from L.L. Lozeau...
They PMed it with 10% off the difference...
:)

[ericdraven]

you will need the Olympus MMF-2 adapter (or Panasonic 4/3 to m4/3 adapter) to use it with your E-PL1.

I'd recommend getting the Panasonic Adapter...
It's the same thing...

Panasonic's is cheaper than the Olympus...

[JTsang]

I added a camera kit to my cart from Henry's online site just to see the taxes. When I looked it came to a total:

Promotions: $0.00
Shipping: Congratulations, you qualify for FREE Xpresspost Provinces shipping! $0.00
Taxes: $0.00
Total: $829.99

Are there no taxes charged by Henry's? Or are the included in the displayed price? Normally an online store would show you the taxes and price before you put in CC info.

I don't actually want to order this online, as the Henry's right by my house has it in stock.

You need to add your postal code before the taxes show up.

[starchoice]

Can one of you camera experts tell me the main difference between these two lenses as they seem to run almost the same price:

Canon EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 III USM

Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS

The first one is generally cheaper. Why?

[pompoco]

Can one of you camera experts tell me the main difference between these two lenses as they seem to run almost the same price:

Canon EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 III USM

Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS

The first one is generally cheaper. Why?

to state the obvious.... Focal length, Mount (FF-Crop), Image stabilisation (or lack of it).....

the 75-300 is optically inferior o the 55-250 but would mount on a full frame body..... if you don't need to go handheld and use a tripod, go for the Sigma 70-300 APO (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/00376/Sigma-70-300mm-F4-5.6-DG-APO-Macro-for-Canon-price.html)which runs for $250-$300 usually and offers better optical performance than both of the Canons.

[maiwear]

We are going on vacation next week (jan 31) and I wanted to buy a canon T1i. I live in toronto and wanted to know where to find the cheapest price. Is there anything comparable on sale this week?
many thanks

[starchoice]

You can get the camera and two lens kit here for just over $900:

http://www.cameracanada.com/eNet-cart/product.asp?pid=3818B013

You can get the camera with one lens and accessory kit here for roughly the same price:

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/-/10159372.aspx?path=d201b094454ce0557bb6f6f2903eb98 0en02

For other possibilities, check here:

http://www.photoprice.ca/product/02817/Canon-EOS-Rebel-T1i-with-18-55-IS-Kit-price.html

[maiwear]

I could be losing my mind but I thought I saw the T1i package with one lens during christmas time at BEST BUY for around $570...its so much more expensive now :(

[Uberclk]

I'd recommend getting the Panasonic Adapter...
It's the same thing...

Panasonic's is cheaper than the Olympus...

Hey Dave, what price are you seeing for the Panny adaptor as I see both selling for $199. Thinking of picking one up as I have a Olympus 14-54mm 2.8-3.5 lying around.
also found the Olympus adapter plus the 40-150mm for $269.95 which is better than the Source as that one is store demo, and if you need to buy the adapter anyways.
http://www.vistek.ca/store/CameraLenses/249353/olympus-ed-40150mm-f4056-mmf2-kit.aspx
I also have a Olympus E-1 somewhere in the house..

Bob

[Task514]

Have a look here http://forums.redflagdeals.com/qc-canon-ef-s-15-85mm-f-3-5-5-6-usm-629-99-a-995772/#post12303239

Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM $629.99

Might be Quebec only.. or even Montreal only.

[starchoice]

I could be losing my mind but I thought I saw the T1i package with one lens during christmas time at BEST BUY for around $570...its so much more expensive now :(

It's not that it's so expensive. It's that BB was selling it so cheap. Nobody could match the price.

[user01]

I hate to see Canon is jacking up their price by atleast ~10% avg

[maiwear]

I wonder if the prices will come down for T1i....Being the optimist, I guess I'll just wait and just take my P&S to our vacation.

[mcg]

Hmm what's the reason for this increase in price? Darnit!

[wetsnot]

Hmm what's the reason for this increase in price? Darnit!
building up stock

[dorkus99]

Tried to buy something from china via ebay with a 99% rating and haven't received my product and its over 3 months now. I really think buying from china is a big risk. But for $2 its not a big deal if you never get it.

BTW, that item is sold out unfortunately. Was going to make a purchase.

I have ordered Lots from Meritline and never had a problem. Interestingly I had ordered that particular flash diffuser a while back as well when it was on sale for $1.99. I must say.. it works... but its pretty sh*ty. If you were in Ottawa, id say you could buy mine off me! :) I spent a few bucks more and got their nock-off Stofen's. Much better

[princesultan]

do you guys ever see great deals on JUST lenses? i've been looking for a lense for my sony alpha dslr and i can't really see many dips in prices...

[markdweasel]

Need a nice prime lens for my D5000 along with a stand alone flash. Any good deals out there and recommendations for a reasonable quality product ( I don't need the top of the line product).

Thanks in advance.

Mark

[wetsnot]

Need a nice prime lens for my D5000 along with a stand alone flash. Any good deals out there and recommendations for a reasonable quality product ( I don't need the top of the line product).

Thanks in advance.

Mark

the 35mm af-s dx f1.8 can be had for around $250
you can also get the 50mm af f1.8 d for about $150

[Captain Snazzypants]

I could be losing my mind but I thought I saw the T1i package with one lens during christmas time at BEST BUY for around $570...its so much more expensive now :(


It's not that it's so expensive. It's that BB was selling it so cheap. Nobody could match the price.

The T1i should be dirt cheap, and will go on similar sales under $600 fairly regularly from now on I'd guess. The T2i is quite a bit better and only costs about $100-$150 more, but the T1i has a lot more wiggle room to drop in price. The other thing to keep in mind is that they have to jack up the prices one week in order to claim $200 OFF in the weeks to follow when they do have a sale. Never, ever pay more than the last non-BD/BF price advertised...

[markdweasel]

the 35mm af-s dx f1.8 can be had for around $250
you can also get the 50mm af f1.8 d for about $150

Thanks. I was thinking that the 35mm is going to affect my pics in the same manner (distortion) as my 18-105mm when all the way down to 18mm and hence I was leaning to the 50mm. The 50mm you mentioned will not AF with the D5000 ( according to the B&H site) . Is this correct?


Mark

[wetsnot]

Thanks. I was thinking that the 35mm is going to affect my pics in the same manner (distortion) as my 18-105mm when all the way down to 18mm and hence I was leaning to the 50mm. The 50mm you mentioned will not AF with the D5000 ( according to the B&H site) . Is this correct?


Mark

In general, the wider the angle the bigger the distortion. The 35mm is a standard lens so you shouldn't have any major issues with distortion. However this one may show some chromatic abberation.

True about the AF, the D5000 doesn't have autofocus motor built into the body (like say the D90), and the 50mm f1.8D doesn't have one built into the lens.

[dorkus99]

In general, the wider the angle the bigger the distortion. The 35mm is a standard lens so you shouldn't have any major issues with distortion. However this one may show some chromatic abberation.

True about the AF, the D5000 doesn't have autofocus motor built into the body (like say the D90), and the 50mm f1.8D doesn't have one built into the lens.

Prime lenses in general have very little chromatic abberation and distortion. This is the main benefit of using prime lenses. This is because the focal length does not change so they can design the lenses much better for CA and Distortion then they can for zooms. In zooms there are lots of moving optics so its almost impossible to keep it CA and distortion free throughout the focal length, while primes do not have this problem making it easier to correct these problems in the lens itself.
35mm should have little to no distortion at all since its very close to being a normal lens, however I have never used the Nikon equivalent. You really only start getting distortion when you go wider then around 20mm. Even then the primes in this area are Very good.. and much better than a zoom in the same range.


Edit: wow.. dpreview has tested the nikon 35mm 1.8 DX, and it really does have lots of CA and a fair bit of distortion
http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/nikon_35_1p8g_n15/page3.asp
Not the kind of prime it should be!

[CBC]

Hey Guys,

FYI.

I saw T2i (Body Only) on sale @ blacks for 699.00 !

I think this is a good deal .. what you guys think ?

[dorkus99]

Hey Guys,

FYI.

I saw T2i (Body Only) on sale @ blacks for 699.00 !

I think this is a good deal .. what you guys think ?

blacks has something in stock????

[CBC]

They only have the "Body"

in stock.

Not the kit.

[jtplayte]

blacks has something in stock????

I know we can't go back in time, but just for reference.....

vistek.ca had the T2i with 18-55mm IS kit lens for $719 on Dec. 21st

I decided to grab it then instead of hoping for a boxing week sale as it was the best price I had found to date.

It was a deal of the day limited time special sort of thing.

No one needs to flame me for talking about past deals, but like I said, it is just for reference.

Take Care,

J

[wetsnot]

Edit: wow.. dpreview has tested the nikon 35mm 1.8 DX, and it really does have lots of CA and a fair bit of distortion
http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/nikon_35_1p8g_n15/page3.asp
Not the kind of prime it should be!

ya I've used it. the distortion isn't that bad. even if you notice it, just take a step back and shoot again.
but like i said you may notice some chromatic abberation.

[Sandro_Bit]

i'm looking to pick up a Canon 5D Mark II, anybody got some good places to pick em up at? when do the specials usually run?

[OnlyBestDeals]

FS is running a tech spree event and one of the deals is

Canon EOS 60D 18.1MP Digital SLR Camera with 18-135mm Lens Kit and Bonus Battery
Lowepro Daypack DSLR Bag
Traxx Tripod

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/-/b9001318.aspx

Note : only 15 purchases needed to activate the deal ;)

[wetsnot]

Hey Guys,

FYI.

I saw T2i (Body Only) on sale @ blacks for 699.00 !

I think this is a good deal .. what you guys think ?

i don't see it on the website.
it's a pretty good price though

[wetsnot]

i'm looking to pick up a Canon 5D Mark II, anybody got some good places to pick em up at? when do the specials usually run?

wait for canon to start up the rebates again, unless you urgently need one

[Sandro_Bit]

wait for canon to start up the rebates again, unless you urgently need one

naw it's not urgent. when do they usually do that? in the summer?

[wetsnot]

naw it's not urgent. when do they usually do that? in the summer?

the price is not terrible now, it could be bought (body only) for $2450 but hopefully it breaches the $2400 threshold again in summer

[Kilgore Trout]

It doesn't seem to be on their site (possibly YMMV), but I was at London Drugs in Victoria, BC (Yates St. location, specifically) last night and saw the Canon 50D w/17-85mm kit on sale for $999. I realize the deal at Black's is better, but LD actually has stock.

Heads up!

[maxsmith]

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/-/b9001318.aspx

[shark-bait]

Henry's Outlet Plus in Mississauga has some Canon 7D for $1399. Open box though. But still pretty good.

[P@man]

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/-/b9001318.aspx

Yes. The body is like 900 before tax if you are lucky but more like 999 before tax. You can get at least 200 but probably more like 350 for the lens if you choose not to keep it. Plus if the battery is a Canon brand one you would get at least 50 for it. It goes for like 119 or something like that. Plus a free bag and tripod. Insane I would say.

[Nacho]

Yes. The body is like 900 before tax if you are lucky but more like 999 before tax. You can get at least 200 but probably more like 350 for the lens if you choose not to keep it. Plus if the battery is a Canon brand one you would get at least 50 for it. It goes for like 119 or something like that. Plus a free bag and tripod. Insane I would say.

Pulled the trigger on this one... I had on order a T2i with the same lens from Henry's boxing day sale, only $100 cheaper, and none of the accessories! Glad it's on back order cause now it's cancelled!

[darklord700]

the price is not terrible now, it could be bought (body only) for $2450 but hopefully it breaches the $2400 threshold again in summer

This little store in Calgary has the 5D2 body for $2350.

http://www.robinsonscamera.com/canon.htm

[wetsnot]

This little store in Calgary has the 5D2 body for $2350.

http://www.robinsonscamera.com/canon.htm

good find.
also an authorized dealer.

[CBC]

i don't see it on the website.
it's a pretty good price though

i walked into the Blacks @ yonge and dundas.

Basically,

its

T2i + 50mm 1.8, for = $820.00

[no8t4]

I think I've decided on the T1i.
Right now it's on at FS and BB for about $700 for the whole kit.
Are there any expected price drops on this ? because it's been out for a while.
Does anyone remember what the price was during past sales? I just wanna gauge it a bit.

thanks

[shark-bait]

I think I've decided on the T1i.
Right now it's on at FS and BB for about $700 for the whole kit.
Are there any expected price drops on this ? because it's been out for a while.
Does anyone remember what the price was during past sales? I just wanna gauge it a bit.

thanks

T1i will probably be discontinued very soon... I would expect the price to drop pretty quickly in the next few months.

[starchoice]

You also run the risk of not finding one as stocks deplete but then again they are still selling the Canon XS. Isn't that an even older model yet? While you can find some good deals, they certainly aren't giving them away. There seems to be a minimum threshhold regardless of the camera's status.

[amyandjason]

As mentioned by maxsmith and P@man, I think that the 60D at Future Shop is a great deal:

Canon EOS 60D 18.1MP Digital SLR Camera
18-135mm Lens Kit
Bonus Battery
Lowepro Daypack DSLR Bag
Traxx Tripod

$1099.99

The camera with lens and bonus battery was decent at $1250, but with the bag and tripod for $150 less it's hot.

I don't think the deal is getting much traffic because it's in Group Deals, but it looks like it should meet the quota (needs 7 more buyers before end of day Wednesday). The other deals in the sale are pretty good too!

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/merged-futureshop-ca-tech-spree-jan-24-26-a-995989

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-ca/techspree.aspx?CMP=EMC-ALL-110128

[maiwear]

opinion please....

I'm not a camera junkie (actually have practically no knowledge on speed, focus etc...) and don't like to fiddle around too much with manual settings. I wanted a dslr camera for the main reason that it gives a much sharper pic than P&S. In all honesty, I probably won't be utilizing most of the features of a dslr but really wanted it for the pic quality (i have 2 small kids and wanted to capture lots of baby/toddler pics). I wanted some video capture as well and therefore heading towards T1i and not XS. Am I on the right track?
many thanks

[Nacho]

As mentioned by maxsmith and P@man, I think that the 60D at Future Shop is a great deal:

Canon EOS 60D 18.1MP Digital SLR Camera
18-135mm Lens Kit
Bonus Battery
Lowepro Daypack DSLR Bag
Traxx Tripod

$1099.99

The camera with lens and bonus battery was decent at $1250, but with the bag and tripod for $150 less it's hot.

I don't think the deal is getting much traffic because it's in Group Deals, but it looks like it should meet the quota (needs 7 more buyers before end of day Wednesday). The other deals in the sale are pretty good too!

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/merged-futureshop-ca-tech-spree-jan-24-26-a-995989

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-ca/techspree.aspx?CMP=EMC-ALL-110128

Agreed, I'm surprised it only has 8 purchases so far! Of course, many on this thread already own a DSLR, but it's definitely a good deal for the rest of us! I hope it reaches the threshold!!

[Ghostman]

I'm a newbie to photography and have been reading up reviews. Currently considering the Futureshop deal (60D with 18-135mm + battery, tripod, case for $1099+tax) or picking up a T2i kit (18-55mm) from the states for ~$800 and then pick up another lens.

Any opinions on which would be a better purchase? From what I'm reading, the 60D is only slightly improved over the T2i....

Thanks a lot in advance!

[crukkh]

I personally believe there's no better value than Sony a33 or a55 when on sale for your purposes. It's almost good taste to bash Sony, but their higher end products are fantastic, and a good value for money - great value for money if you can find a33 on sale (Dell has had them on sale a few times in the past... plus 15% off electronics coupon).

I wouldn't want a flame here about merits of various brands... just my 2c, all IMHO.


opinion please....

I'm not a camera junkie (actually have practically no knowledge on speed, focus etc...) and don't like to fiddle around too much with manual settings. I wanted a dslr camera for the main reason that it gives a much sharper pic than P&S. In all honesty, I probably won't be utilizing most of the features of a dslr but really wanted it for the pic quality (i have 2 small kids and wanted to capture lots of baby/toddler pics). I wanted some video capture as well and therefore heading towards T1i and not XS. Am I on the right track?
many thanks

[MikeAK]

opinion please....

I'm not a camera junkie (actually have practically no knowledge on speed, focus etc...) and don't like to fiddle around too much with manual settings. I wanted a dslr camera for the main reason that it gives a much sharper pic than P&S. In all honesty, I probably won't be utilizing most of the features of a dslr but really wanted it for the pic quality (i have 2 small kids and wanted to capture lots of baby/toddler pics). I wanted some video capture as well and therefore heading towards T1i and not XS. Am I on the right track?
many thanks

IDK, sounds to me that the whole reason for getting a dslr is one of the things you least have interest in. Just getting a dslr doesn't mean sharper images right off the bat. Many factors play into the image such as settings, glass(lenses), digital darkroom, etc. While today's entry level dslr's are very user friendly and have good auto settings you should know that it will take some effort on your part to get to know your settings and how to use those settings to maximize your final results.

In all honesty if all you want is to take pics of your kids and you have zero interest in settings and the other advantages that dslr's bring then maybe you should look at something else. Even entry level camera's aren't cheap and I see so many people buying them expecting the world only to be disappointed because they don't make the effort to truly utilize the system.

[TotalDistinction]

opinion please....

I'm not a camera junkie (actually have practically no knowledge on speed, focus etc...) and don't like to fiddle around too much with manual settings. I wanted a dslr camera for the main reason that it gives a much sharper pic than P&S. In all honesty, I probably won't be utilizing most of the features of a dslr but really wanted it for the pic quality (i have 2 small kids and wanted to capture lots of baby/toddler pics). I wanted some video capture as well and therefore heading towards T1i and not XS. Am I on the right track?
many thanks

If video is important to you, these DSLR's don't support continuous autofocus for video. That will be a big deal to you if you don't want to mess with manual focus. Get a camcorder instead.

A "consumer" DSLR alternative with continuous autofocus for video is the Sony A33/A55.

[jsywong]

I'm a newbie to photography and have been reading up reviews. Currently considering the Futureshop deal (60D with 18-135mm + battery, tripod, case for $1099+tax) or picking up a T2i kit (18-55mm) from the states for ~$800 and then pick up another lens.

Any opinions on which would be a better purchase? From what I'm reading, the 60D is only slightly improved over the T2i....

Thanks a lot in advance!

If it was me, I will go with the 60D. Because having the T1i with the 18-55mm lens, I soon found out how bad the lens was. Now looking that some review on the 18-135mm, it seems to be better. And don't think you can easily sell the 18-55mm lens once you get it, since it is really the bottom of the barrel and 99.9% of people who bought entry level dslr has this lens and anyone who has a higher level camera will not buy this lens.

However, remember that it is the lens that makes or breaks the photo, so if buying a T2i will allow you to buy a lens like 24-70mm f/2.8L USM (~$1400) then I willl go for the T2i.

Just my 2 cents

[Ghostman]

If it was me, I will go with the 60D. Because having the T1i with the 18-55mm lens, I soon found out how bad the lens was. Now looking that some review on the 18-135mm, it seems to be better. And don't think you can easily sell the 18-55mm lens once you get it, since it is really the bottom of the barrel and 99.9% of people who bought entry level dslr has this lens and anyone who has a higher level camera will not buy this lens.

However, remember that it is the lens that makes or breaks the photo, so if buying a T2i will allow you to buy a lens like 24-70mm f/2.8L USM (~$1400) then I willl go for the T2i.

Just my 2 cents


Thanks for the feedback. And no...I'm not going to be buying the really fancy lenses yet...planning on learning basic DSLR photography first. I noticed in previous deals that a lot of beginners started with the 18-55mm + 55-250mm. Reading forums, some folks mentioned that the 18-135mm had bad CA and wasn't as sharp as using the two separate lenses. So I'm looking right now at:

Futureshop 60D w/ 18-135mm + battery/bag/case
or
T2i + 18-55mm + 55-250mm + ~$200 savings

Also looking at getting the thrifty 50 as well on top of either deal.

Didn't realize there were soo many lenses and options to learn about...sigh...

Ghostman

[cha0tik]

Thanks for the feedback. And no...I'm not going to be buying the really fancy lenses yet...planning on learning basic DSLR photography first. I noticed in previous deals that a lot of beginners started with the 18-55mm + 55-250mm. Reading forums, some folks mentioned that the 18-135mm had bad CA and wasn't as sharp as using the two separate lenses. So I'm looking right now at:

Futureshop 60D w/ 18-135mm + battery/bag/case
or
T2i + 18-55mm + 55-250mm + ~$200 savings

Also looking at getting the thrifty 50 as well on top of either deal.

Didn't realize there were soo many lenses and options to learn about...sigh...

Ghostman

Keep in mind that the Future Shop deal is not set in stone. If the required number of people (15 customers) don't place an order within the next 35 or so hours, no one gets the kit at that price.

On the other hand, I really hope there are at least 7 more buyers out there who may want to opt for this DSLR. I kinda wanna pick it up at this price, not to mention with all the extra goodies it comes with.

[rocklands]

I want to buy a 60D with a better lens, can anyone commend on this futureshop deal, is 18-135 lens worth buying? I know it's hot, and the body only cost ~950 (deal couple days ago), but how is the lens? Thanks.

[Sandro_Bit]

anybody have any feedback with manufacturer refurbished cameras? found some stuff for sale on the canon.com website i was interested in and wanted some opinions. do we pay duties on cameras bought through canon.com?

[andreid]

I've been always puzzled by people jumping on this 60D while the viewfinder size does not cover a whole picture. Spending so much money these days with such a lamentable viewfinder size is ridiculous. Come on CANON, fix that viewfinder... and you guys don't buy cameras w/o a 100% picture coverage. Cheers,

[P@man]

Thanks for the feedback. And no...I'm not going to be buying the really fancy lenses yet...planning on learning basic DSLR photography first. I noticed in previous deals that a lot of beginners started with the 18-55mm + 55-250mm. Reading forums, some folks mentioned that the 18-135mm had bad CA and wasn't as sharp as using the two separate lenses. So I'm looking right now at:

Futureshop 60D w/ 18-135mm + battery/bag/case
or
T2i + 18-55mm + 55-250mm + ~$200 savings

Also looking at getting the thrifty 50 as well on top of either deal.

Didn't realize there were soo many lenses and options to learn about...sigh...

Ghostman

How do you save 200 exactly? you are looking at least 200 for the 55-250.

if it was me I would sell the Canon battery for 80 and the 18-135 for 300 to 350 on craigslist. I sold mine for 400. i am also looking for a spare battery for 50 to 60 because I do not trust DX or Ebay brands so i am sure someone would buy it for 80.

So you are looking at 1231.99 after tax minus at least 430 and even more if someone buys the bag and tripod. 801.99 after tax for the body only. If you live in an area where the 18-135 is despised then just add a 100 on the 801.99 which still rocks. Smokes any T2i deal really. Just make sure craigslist isn't oversaturated with 18-135 lenses first. haha

[buckawheat]

That 60D deal is amazing. I wish it had come out about 30 days ago.

I've been weighing a switch to Canon from my current Nikon gear but when I didn't pull the trigger on the 60D with the 18-200 package over the holidays, I purchased an 18-200 VR nikkor - so now, I am into Nikon for a D90, an 18-105 kit lens (to sell isn't worth it - great lens when I don't want to take the heavier/more expensive 18-200), an 18-200 AF VR (first gen) lens, a 70-300 VR AF lens, SB-600 and an extra battery. If I had not purchased the 18-200, I think this deal might have tipped me over to Canon. I love the Nikon gear, I've just been having issues with hot pixels on my D90 body. Probably better off waiting for the 300s successor to come out then buy a 300s body on discount.

[amyandjason]

I want to buy a 60D with a better lens, can anyone commend on this futureshop deal, is 18-135 lens worth buying? I know it's hot, and the body only cost ~950 (deal couple days ago), but how is the lens? Thanks.

Here's a decent review of it, and there are reviews of a lot of the other lenses you might consider in place of this so you can compare:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-S-18-135mm-f-3.5-5.6-IS-Lens-Review.aspx

I haven't used this lens, but I know that I really like that focal length. For those of you who mentioned young kids, I think that the benefit of a single lens is worth the slight loss in picture quality (vs. a dedicated 55-250 zoom). Going from 135 to 250 isn't really that useful when you're chasing kids around the house or the yard, but from 55 to 135 is. And personally, I don't think that 99% of users are even going to notice the difference in picture quality unless it's because you're going to a faster lens (which the 55-250 is not).

If you plan to get the 50mm anyways then you might be better off just going with a used camera body and getting a flash and a fast zoom like the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 instead.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/423714-REG/Tamron_AF016C700_17_50mm_f_2_8_XR_Di.html

I would skip the 55-250 until you've had the camera for a while (unless you get a really good deal on a kit or unless you have a specific need for bigger zoom, like wildlife). The 17-50 would be a good lens to start with, and once you are more familiar with your camera and your style you can shell out more money for a lens that fits your needs.

[P@man]

Anyone know for sure if that spare battery is a Canon brand or not though? Because that actually makes a huge difference.

[pompoco]

I want to buy a 60D with a better lens, can anyone commend on this futureshop deal, is 18-135 lens worth buying? I know it's hot, and the body only cost ~950 (deal couple days ago), but how is the lens? Thanks.

Awesome deal... odered me another 60D ;) sell it for $1250 and keep the rest....

The 18-135 is a great lens. Especially on the 60D where you can correct the pictures in camera. IQ is better than the 18-55 but not as sharp as the 15-85 and the FL is just great. Pricewise you can always sell it for $350-$400. Use it for a while and get the 15-85 ewhen it is on sale for ~$700 again.

[pompoco]

...
If you plan to get the 50mm anyways then you might be better off just going with a used camera body and getting a flash and a fast zoom like the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 instead.

... The 17-50 would be a good lens to start with, and once you are more familiar with your camera and your style you can shell out more money for a lens that fits your needs.

Tamron doeasn't honour us warranties....
the lens (http://www.photoprice.ca/search/?s=17-50) is on $420 here anyways or $530 with IS...

But with warranties...
Sigma handles only 1 year internationaly or 5-10years domestic and Tamron 0 international and 6years domestic...
With these third party lenses warranty is neccessary since you sometimes need to calibrate or exchange it for a flawless model...
Sigma 17-70 1 exchange and my 18-135 2 eexchanges... but with the canons I guess it was a transportation problem...

[ZIgot]

Thanks for the feedback. And no...I'm not going to be buying the really fancy lenses yet...planning on learning basic DSLR photography first. I noticed in previous deals that a lot of beginners started with the 18-55mm + 55-250mm. Reading forums, some folks mentioned that the 18-135mm had bad CA and wasn't as sharp as using the two separate lenses. So I'm looking right now at:

Futureshop 60D w/ 18-135mm + battery/bag/case
or
T2i + 18-55mm + 55-250mm + ~$200 savings

Also looking at getting the thrifty 50 as well on top of either deal.

Didn't realize there were soo many lenses and options to learn about...sigh...

Ghostman

I'd go with t2i and put $$ in HQ lens.
the 18-55is and the 55-250is are the best combo for an entry level price VS IQ.
the 50mk2 1.8 again is the best thing you can get for sub $100 lens. Perfect for portrait on a crop body.

About image quality, 60D = t2i. and remember, video is not autofocus on those bodies.
If you plan on doing lengthy video on moving target, then it's better to get a cheap HD camcorder.

[pompoco]

come on need to order 5 more sets (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-ca/techspree.aspx?CMP=EMC-ALL-110128)....
Just order it and if you dont like return it for refund.....


Yeahhh 16 sold deal is on :)

[pepperMonkey]

opinion please....

I'm not a camera junkie (actually have practically no knowledge on speed, focus etc...) and don't like to fiddle around too much with manual settings. I wanted a dslr camera for the main reason that it gives a much sharper pic than P&S. In all honesty, I probably won't be utilizing most of the features of a dslr but really wanted it for the pic quality (i have 2 small kids and wanted to capture lots of baby/toddler pics). I wanted some video capture as well and therefore heading towards T1i and not XS. Am I on the right track?
many thanks

If video is very important to you, I would recommend the Panasonic GH1 or better yet the GH2 (though finding that is stock is like winning a lottery right now). As far as I can tell, the only one better at video (from a DSLR) is the Canon 1D Mark blah blah's, though 5D is probably close to the comparable range. As someone mentioned the Sony A33/55 is a good choice also but for video, GH1 (specially hacked) or GH2 would be better. Of course, the Sony's will be better in the digital stills department. Problem with the A55 is that there is no manual controls, and in order to get AF during video, you would need to record with the lens wide open (wtf?) let alone the fact that the lens itself isn't silent. GH1 will give you full control if you want it, better framerates, less jelly, better AF (at all apertures), a silent 14-140mm (28-280mm 35mm equivalent) kit lens etc. etc. The GH2 will be even better than the GH1 in video and closing the gap in the digital stills department with the low to mid entry DSLR's. A hacked GF1 would also be an option though it doesn't do 1080p/i.

As for the Canon's mentioned, if you want video, yeah, T1i would be the choice.

[ddd2224u]

I honestly don't see how any of you consider the 60D + 18-135 a good deal. The 60D + 18-200 lens had went on sale for $1250. For an additional $150, you get a lens that's worth like $300 more.

[P@man]

I honestly don't see how any of you consider the 60D + 18-135 a good deal. The 60D + 18-200 lens had went on sale for $1250. For an additional $150, you get a lens that's worth like $300 more.

Way harder sell job. The craigslist price is definitely not 300 more plus the spare 119 dollar battery. For 150 less that is a steal. The 18 - 200 kind of licks too and is heavier than the 15-85 if you decide to keep it.

[maiwear]

If video is very important to you, I would recommend the Panasonic GH1 or better yet the GH2 (though finding that is stock is like winning a lottery right now). As far as I can tell, the only one better at video (from a DSLR) is the Canon 1D Mark blah blah's, though 5D is probably close to the comparable range. As someone mentioned the Sony A33/55 is a good choice also but for video, GH1 (specially hacked) or GH2 would be better. Of course, the Sony's will be better in the digital stills department. Problem with the A55 is that there is no manual controls, and in order to get AF during video, you would need to record with the lens wide open (wtf?) let alone the fact that the lens itself isn't silent. GH1 will give you full control if you want it, better framerates, less jelly, better AF (at all apertures), a silent 14-140mm (28-280mm 35mm equivalent) kit lens etc. etc. The GH2 will be even better than the GH1 in video and closing the gap in the digital stills department with the low to mid entry DSLR's. A hacked GF1 would also be an option though it doesn't do 1080p/i.

As for the Canon's mentioned, if you want video, yeah, T1i would be the choice.

video is nice to have but not a must....picture quality is most important! thanks for your input! will check out panasonic ones. I'm also looking for within $600 range ..gonna be tough

[funjargon]

Just wanted to thank you, as I purchased the rebel xs.

Just a quick question though in regards to PM'ing... since when was it that the price match 10% off was off of the difference??? I went in and bitched em out about how the price should have been the price you had mentioned when PM'ing and all I got was a measly $10 off.... because right now the xs at BB is 579 so I got $100 plus 10% of that $100... and ended up paying $469.. I honestly don't recall the PM'ing deal to be 10% off of the discount but off of the Price that it has been matched to...

and they had the never to say it's always been that way...

Someone please correct me.. lol..

[keg0851]

any deals on canon 50mm f/1.8?

[pompoco]

I honestly don't see how any of you consider the 60D + 18-135 a good deal. The 60D + 18-200 lens had went on sale for $1250. For an additional $150, you get a lens that's worth like $300 more.

The lens is not worth $300 more... IQ is lower than the 18-135.
It was hard to sell the stuff actually , since evrerybody seems to be hit by the "christmas damage". Took me three weekdsto sell the Grip and 18-200 for $780 so that the body did cost me $620 tax in.
The 18-135 is easier to sell and the better lens, plus you get soem other goodies with it like the extra battery which usually is overpriced $80-$120 another camerabag and a tripod for the kids....

[feminazi]

I just ordered one of these, thanks a lot as we were looking for a 60D for a good price with a decent starter lens and this fits the bill!

The FS webpage doesn't indicate that the lens is IS but it must be, right?

Oh yeah, what size and speed of card would be good to pair with the 60D and are there any sweet deals on right now? I looked through FS's SDHC cards and the biggest one on a decent sale was 8 gigs in capacity and I am not sure if that is big enough?

[Nacho]

Just wanted to thank you, as I purchased the rebel xs.

Just a quick question though in regards to PM'ing... since when was it that the price match 10% off was off of the difference??? I went in and bitched em out about how the price should have been the price you had mentioned when PM'ing and all I got was a measly $10 off.... because right now the xs at BB is 579 so I got $100 plus 10% of that $100... and ended up paying $469.. I honestly don't recall the PM'ing deal to be 10% off of the discount but off of the Price that it has been matched to...

and they had the never to say it's always been that way...

Someone please correct me.. lol..

Sorry, for as long as i remember the discount has been 10% off the price difference.

[mau_mau]

anyone have opinions on the Nikon D60? My father in law is "giving" me his because he is going back to a point and shoot. read some reviews, and it seems like an "ok" camera - was really interested in picking up a D3100 instead - is the D60 a good replacement? Not really looking for the video option that the D3100 provides

[starchoice]

Just wanted to thank you, as I purchased the rebel xs.

Just a quick question though in regards to PM'ing... since when was it that the price match 10% off was off of the difference??? I went in and bitched em out about how the price should have been the price you had mentioned when PM'ing and all I got was a measly $10 off.... because right now the xs at BB is 579 so I got $100 plus 10% of that $100... and ended up paying $469.. I honestly don't recall the PM'ing deal to be 10% off of the discount but off of the Price that it has been matched to...

and they had the never to say it's always been that way...

Someone please correct me.. lol..

BB and FS are 10% of the difference. Visions is a full 5%, not of the difference.

[LonesomeDove]

Sorry, for as long as i remember the discount has been 10% off the price difference.

When PMing at BB, FS, and Staples, it is always 10% off the difference in price, not 10% off the price of the item that is matched. Otherwise it could be substantial, say it was a $500 item, you would get $50 off. No way a retailer will go for that.

Those that want video autofocus in a DSLR camera should consider the Nikon D3100. Pricewise it is comparable to the Canon T1i, which does not have video autofocus.

[funjargon]

Thanks for the clarification.

I guess, OP please correct your PM price to 469.99.. Seeing this made me feel I was right when I was speaking with them, lol.


Canon EOS Rebel XS 10.1MP DSLR Camera With 18-55mm DC Lens Kit PM FS and BB $436.99
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/x/10109189.aspx
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/x/10137749.aspx

Or try PM'ing with this as mentioned previously:
http://www.walmart.ca/Electronics/Cameras/Cameras/EOS-Rebel-XS-with-18-55mm-LensEOS-Digital-SLR-Cameras

Anyway, thank you again for this thread.

[accexr]

Thanks OP for posting the deal at FS. I just ordered the 60d kits with all the goodies. Not the lens I wanted, I wanted 15-85 lens. May be I am going to sell the lens once it arrived. Anyone want the lens, bag and tripod from this kits please let me know or give me an offer. Thx

[wetsnot]

Thanks for the clarification.

I guess, OP please correct your PM price to 469.99..

thanks for the heads up

[wetsnot]

CANON EOS 5D MK II w/ EF 24-105mm f4L IS USM - PM FS and Aden $3044.49
links on op


Paging Sandro_Bit...

[geotuna]

Anyone able to find the 50D in stock at a Black's store?

[pompoco]

CANON EOS 5D MK II w/ EF 24-105mm f4L IS USM - PM FS and Aden $3044.49
links on op....


Check your links... it's OOS at FS and therefore only a potential deal or for the few lucky who have the "selected" stores... but the $3095 at aden are good anyway and easy to PM with your local dealer.

[silvery]

I'm sure Futureshop took the 5D package off the site as soon as the first person PMd >:(

[Sandro_Bit]

what's the difference between buying the cam by price matching with future shop vs. a refurbished one from Canon.com?

thanks for the help guys!

[wetsnot]

Check your links... it's OOS at FS and therefore only a potential deal or for the few lucky who have the "selected" stores... but the $3095 at aden are good anyway and easy to PM with your local dealer.


I'm sure Futureshop took the 5D package off the site as soon as the first person PMd >:(

Blah!
True. I'm sure the other downtown toronto dealers will bargain.

[Sandro_Bit]

Future Shop in Montreal doesn't have the Camera + lens kit in stock only bodies and they won't match Aden's price for the body + 3 year warranty. they'll only match the body excluding warranty. i'm calling other places now.

[carpeter]

This is a good indication that 5DMark3 is coming soon this year..

[oakville]

where is that stupid Sony, rumor long to have a model to compete with 5D, but instead going over to NEX, let canon enjoy the healthy profit margin.


This is a good indication that 5DMark3 is coming soon this year..

[insanity]

I need a camera that can shoot good indoor shot. I have an online business and need to take pictures for the website. Any comments on the Pentax K-r DSLR Body ($599 at Vistek)? I don't want to have to buy a external flash since they usually cost too much. I don't want to spend too much ($600 is already over my budget...looking for a camera around $500 and under that does good indoor shots). I am major noob when it come to digital camera's, I always just use the auto settings.

[cha0tik]

Anyone able to find the 50D in stock at a Black's store?

Guelph store has one, but it's the display model. The same thing as any other except that it sat in the display quite a bit. The sales person reassured me that no one has tinkered with it, comes with full warranty as well as the lens kit for $899.99. If any of you are interested in it, that store in Stone Road Mall still has it in stock.

[Task514]

http://www.express-electronics24.de/product.php?id_product=48

$1,610.00 tax incl.
Canon EOS 5D Mark II 21.1MP Digital SLR (Body Only)
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Lens
Canon Gadget Bag
Canon 5D Mark II Battery Grip
Canon 5D Mark II Battery Pack
32GB CF Deluxe Adventures Package

LOOKS SOOOOO SKETCHY!:lol:

[myidee]

I need a camera that can shoot good indoor shot. I have an online business and need to take pictures for the website. Any comments on the Pentax K-r DSLR Body ($599 at Vistek)? I don't want to have to buy a external flash since they usually cost too much. I don't want to spend too much ($600 is already over my budget...looking for a camera around $500 and under that does good indoor shots). I am major noob when it come to digital camera's, I always just use the auto settings.

If you can wait for a month then get Fuji HS20EXR for about $500. It is not a dslr but will be close enough.

[Eeric]

http://www.express-electronics24.de/product.php?id_product=48

$1,610.00 tax incl.
Canon EOS 5D Mark II 21.1MP Digital SLR (Body Only)
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Lens
Canon Gadget Bag
Canon 5D Mark II Battery Grip
Canon 5D Mark II Battery Pack
32GB CF Deluxe Adventures Package

LOOKS SOOOOO SKETCHY!:lol:

Wow.. that looks like a crazy deal if legit. Anyone happen to have heard of/bought from them before?

[Task514]

Wow.. that looks like a crazy deal if legit. Anyone happen to have heard of/bought from them before?

forget about that, a 5D2 alone is more $$ than that deal, a 70-200 2.8 IS alone is more $$ than that deal!:facepalm:

[Vasyl]

Wow, http://www.express-electronics24.de/category.php?id_category=9&p=2

Pentax K-5 16.3 MP Digital SLR with 18-55mm Lens and 3-Inch LCD for $780.00. This is not even funny.:twisted:

[Duuuuude]

http://www.express-electronics24.de/product.php?id_product=48

$1,610.00 tax incl.
Canon EOS 5D Mark II 21.1MP Digital SLR (Body Only)
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Lens
Canon Gadget Bag
Canon 5D Mark II Battery Grip
Canon 5D Mark II Battery Pack
32GB CF Deluxe Adventures Package

LOOKS SOOOOO SKETCHY!:lol:

Ordered one! Thanks! I'll let you know if it goes through!

I kid, I kid.... Don't do it, people! :lol:

[Duuuuude]

I just entered bogus info for my 5D Mark II order and Pay-by-wire is the only option. Here is the info, if you feel like getting scammed I x-ed out parts just in case someone feels crazy): :razz:


Your order on ELEKTRO24 is complete.

Please send us a bank wire with:

- an amount of $1,610.00

- to the account owner of LAZAROVA MARKOVA MIMA

- with these details Bank name: CAJA ESPANA
IBAN: ES93 2096 0140 0440 xxxx xxxx
BIC: CSPxxxx

- to this bank PENAFIL, SPAIN

- Do not forget to insert your order # 1662 in the subject of your bank wire

An e-mail has been sent to you with this information.

Your order will be sent as soon as we receive your settlement.

For any questions or for further information, please contact our customer support.

[darklord700]

http://www.express-electronics24.de/product.php?id_product=48

$1,610.00 tax incl.
Canon EOS 5D Mark II 21.1MP Digital SLR (Body Only)
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Lens
Canon Gadget Bag
Canon 5D Mark II Battery Grip
Canon 5D Mark II Battery Pack
32GB CF Deluxe Adventures Package

LOOKS SOOOOO SKETCHY!:lol:
Warranty 24 months?? Canon warranty is only a year on lens and body.

[Ghostman]

I just entered bogus info for my 5D Mark II order and Pay-by-wire is the only option. Here is the info, if you feel like getting scammed I x-ed out parts just in case someone feels crazy): :razz:

Nope...not sketchy at all.... :p

[Captain Snazzypants]

Try and PM it using that .de website (Germany) ;)

[pompoco]

Warranty 24 months?? Canon warranty is only a year on lens and body.

well in most european countries a minimum of 24mth warranty is mandatory.

[Task514]

If you check the about us page, it says Absolute Music Solution, which seem to be a legit company. I even streetview the address and there is a Absolute Music Solution store there.

Wonder what's the link between these two companies.:?:

[Eeric]

I just entered bogus info for my 5D Mark II order and Pay-by-wire is the only option. Here is the info, if you feel like getting scammed I x-ed out parts just in case someone feels crazy): :razz:

If they take money by wires only how can it not be legit? :lol:

/sarcasm off

[Task514]

I live chatted online with an agent from Absolute Music Solutions, he never heard of that company and is passing the msg to their IT dept.:!:

[sixteen12]

Wow, http://www.express-electronics24.de/category.php?id_category=9&p=2

Pentax K-5 16.3 MP Digital SLR with 18-55mm Lens and 3-Inch LCD for $780.00. This is not even funny.:twisted:

No way this place is legit.

[typer100]

I was kinda wondering about posting deal on a 3K DSLR setup...

How many semi-pro photographers do we have here.
Unless money is no object, already making the jump from a SD1300 to a T2i is already a big step ($$$).

I have about 1500K worth of camera stuff (body, lens, filters, flash, bag)
and this is already a good chunk of money to take nice pictures.

Anyway, just my .02$

[canuckkat]

If they take money by wires only how can it not be legit? :lol:

/sarcasm off

That's actually not strange in Europe. I know of a few companies that do that, and they are very legit.

[SSJChar]

I was kinda wondering about posting deal on a 3K DSLR setup...

How many semi-pro photographers do we have here.
Unless money is no object, already making the jump from a SD1300 to a T2i is already a big step ($$$).

I have about 1500K worth of camera stuff (body, lens, filters, flash, bag)
and this is already a good chunk of money to take nice pictures.

Anyway, just my .02$

daaang, i would say thats a good chunk of money too, 1.5 million in photography gear? monies monies.
Anyways, is anyone up to date in photography tech? you guys see anything big coming out in the upcoming year, or is it good to invest in something now? sure tech is always going forward, but some things are good enough to wait out for.

[essayasse]

Any Sony A33/A55 users here? HOw are you liking the camera? Im interested in getting the A55 but I am only getting it if Sony throw in af adjustment...what are the chance of this happening? H

[darklord700]

Anyways, is anyone up to date in photography tech? you guys see anything big coming out in the upcoming year, or is it good to invest in something now? sure tech is always going forward, but some things are good enough to wait out for.

Digital camera body technology has plateaued. New things will always come out but the camera body you buy today (T2i, 60D or 7D) will still take good pictures for many years to come.

[buckawheat]

I need a camera that can shoot good indoor shot. I have an online business and need to take pictures for the website. Any comments on the Pentax K-r DSLR Body ($599 at Vistek)? I don't want to have to buy a external flash since they usually cost too much. I don't want to spend too much ($600 is already over my budget...looking for a camera around $500 and under that does good indoor shots). I am major noob when it come to digital camera's, I always just use the auto settings.

If you are just doing this as a one time thing, i would recommend renting or borrowing a mid to top of the line camera and external flash or flashes - you just can't get the same kind of picture with a built in flash. You can probably find others, but here is an example: http://www.vistek.ca/rentals/

Your other option is to borrow a photographer friend for a couple hours who has the equipment, a lot of people now have DSLRs and might be interested in the challenge for free or a couple beer.

[buckawheat]

anyone have opinions on the Nikon D60? My father in law is "giving" me his because he is going back to a point and shoot. read some reviews, and it seems like an "ok" camera - was really interested in picking up a D3100 instead - is the D60 a good replacement? Not really looking for the video option that the D3100 provides

The D60 is a great camera if you pair it with a good lens - you can grab a good 18-105 vr Nikkor lens pretty cheap off of Kijiji or ebay as many who got them with christmas packages are selling around $200.

It isn't a top of the line lens, but it would be a good pairing for the D60 with decent range - if you already have a lens coming with it, an external flash like a sb-600 can drastically improve picture quality on that body.

The best judge is your eye, take some shots on it with the body and lens you get, view them on a computer and print a few 8x10 and snapshot and decide if it it up to your expectations, free is a great price.

[Duuuuude]

If you check the about us page, it says Absolute Music Solution, which seem to be a legit company. I even streetview the address and there is a Absolute Music Solution store there.

Wonder what's the link between these two companies.:?:


I live chatted online with an agent from Absolute Music Solutions, he never heard of that company and is passing the msg to their IT dept.:!:


That's actually not strange in Europe. I know of a few companies that do that, and they are very legit.

Don't even think about this being legit in any way nor should you pursue it (unless it is with Interpol :D). The lens alone is over $2000usd and when it seems "Too good to be true"....

[Fllay]

Don't even think about this being legit in any way nor should you pursue it (unless it is with Interpol :D). The lens alone is over $2000usd and when it seems "Too good to be true"....

+1 No way is that site legit. Come on, how could the Pentax K-5 + kit lens possibly be sold at $780, NO WAY!

Remember Katz Electronics anyone? Back then I got the refund but not in full due to the currency exchange rate. And if I remember correctly, some people didn't even get their money back.

[AlexHellier]

I live chatted online with an agent from Absolute Music Solutions, he never heard of that company and is passing the msg to their IT dept.:!:

Hi I work for Absolute Music (The real ones!)

First off - thanks for bringing this to our attention - and please be aware they really are nothing to do with us even though they have used our store address and VAT number

Secondly - we have alerted the police and are trying to get the website taken offline. If anyone has any info or have been conned by these please get in touch with me personally so we can make sure the police have as much information as possible.

My Contact email is alex - at - absolutemusic.co.uk or feel free to ring me on 01202 597189

Thanks again

Alex

[iamdogdog]

is this a decent deal?

60D body + 3 years extended warranty = 964.99
http://www.adencamera.com/product-overviewer.asp?ProdID=3436&Category=6

I am also trying to ask them to throw in an extra battery + 16G class 6/10 SD card

I heard horrible stories about their warranty, anyone want to share some real examples?

[frayne182]

Anyone have any good places for the Sony Alpha series? Been looking and searching for awhile on some good deals.

[densil_lopez]

Secondly - we have alerted the police and are trying to get the website taken offline.
Thanks again

Alex
Don't take this site offline.. I am trying to do price match...:)

Thanks for your clarification

[wetsnot]

is this a decent deal?

60D body + 3 years extended warranty = 964.99
http://www.adencamera.com/product-overviewer.asp?ProdID=3436&Category=6

I am also trying to ask them to throw in an extra battery + 16G class 6/10 SD card

I heard horrible stories about their warranty, anyone want to share some real examples?

you can also try price matching with bestbuy who have it in stock at $1199.99

[iamdogdog]

you can also try price matching with bestbuy who have it in stock at $1199.99

I am interested in the 3 years warrenty as well, anyone know what's the diff between aden and BB's warrenty program?
Called blacks and they said they only have 1 year extended warrenty and they won't PM aden because they only sell kit instead of 60D body only.

[chrispy35]

I need a camera that can shoot good indoor shot. I have an online business and need to take pictures for the website. Any comments on the Pentax K-r DSLR Body ($599 at Vistek)? I don't want to have to buy a external flash since they usually cost too much. I don't want to spend too much ($600 is already over my budget...looking for a camera around $500 and under that does good indoor shots). I am major noob when it come to digital camera's, I always just use the auto settings.

What about using a relatively cheap point and shoot, no flash and a tripod?

Chris P.

[pompoco]

I am interested in the 3 years warrenty as well, anyone know what's the diff between aden and BB's warrenty program?
Called blacks and they said they only have 1 year extended warrenty and they won't PM aden because they only sell kit instead of 60D body only.

Henry's sells the Body to and has an extended warranty programm as well as does Memory express if you're living in the right province...

[cha0tik]

Have any of you seen a BG-E9 grip for the 60D at a decent price? I was looking to pick one up. The cheapest I've seen so far was at Vistek, selling for $329.95.

[pompoco]

Have any of you seen a BG-E9 grip for the 60D at a decent price? I was looking to pick one up. The cheapest I've seen so far was at Vistek, selling for $329.95.

Henry's at $150 (http://www.henrys.ca/61850-CANON-BG-E9-BATTERY-GRIP-60D.aspx)

[YLC]

I've noticed that there aren't many accessories available for 60D compared to the T2i, after-market wise. Is it simply because 60D is still newer or is it that less popular?

[cha0tik]

Henry's at $150 (http://www.henrys.ca/61850-CANON-BG-E9-BATTERY-GRIP-60D.aspx)

THANKS! Ordered one.

[cha0tik]

I've noticed that there aren't many accessories available for 60D compared to the T2i, after-market wise. Is it simply because 60D is still newer or is it that less popular?

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that it's because the camera is still fairly new to the market. It has only been 2 months, give or take, since it was launched.

[Task514]

I've noticed that there aren't many accessories available for 60D compared to the T2i, after-market wise. Is it simply because 60D is still newer or is it that less popular?

Of course the T2i was more popular at launch... It was a game changer for the video heads!.... you could get almost the same quality video as a 7D and 5DMK2 for 1000$. That was the main selling point!

Before the 60D launched, people expected too much from it, which turned down alot of interest. I wouldn't be surprised the 60D sold less at launch than the T2i.

But give it some time and the accessories should pop up everywhere.

[wetsnot]

Before the 60D launched, people expected too much from it


everyone was expecting a continuation from the X0D line and canon didn't go down that route.
they should have given it another name.

[shanes]

Has anyone received shipping notice for this deal? I saw that the deal was "unlocked" on Tuesday but so far nothing. I called FS and they weren't much help - only confirming that my card wasn't charged yet and couldn't confirm if the deal was unlocked.


s.

[Ghostman]

Nope. It's "In Progress" for me too.

[pompoco]

Well they have it in stock and the orders are in progress...... as well as it was supposed to be PO until feb.04/05 so it might take another week until it ships (hopefully not).

Update: just checked the order items and it seems that it "hangs" on the Daypack (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/lowepro-lowepro-daypack-dslr-bag-lp36267-lp36267/10157442.aspx) which is on PO and estimated to ship feb.04.... the rest is in stock...

I hope FS is not nailing us over again and ships the orders...

Update 19:50... got an Email from FS as well confirming the Tech Spree deal (again...)

Subject: Tech Spree: Deal is ON!

MSG: Good news, everyone! The Spree Limit has been hit for the Canon DSLR bundle, and so you're in on an incredible deal from Future Shop! Over 40 people got in on this Spree. That's pretty sweet.

Your pre-order is now an order and will ship shortly. We're going to send you another email that will confirm your shipment in the near future. Don't forget to write a review when you get your Spree item: tell the world how awesome it really is!

So I guess since it is now a confirmed order we can breathe lighter ;) and anticipate the next wave of 60D's ;)

[smacd]

For those with a US shipping address, Canon has the XSi with 18-55IS lens for $349.99 USD + $15 shipping after you apply the coupon code 121EOS
This is for a factory refurb and shows as $499.99 until you put it in your cart and apply the code. 90 day warranty. Also get a Free Camera Bag with purchase.


http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_222026_-1

[smacd]

Now showing as "on backorder".

[cha0tik]

Just got an email from Future Shop confirming that the Tech Spree deal for the Canon EOS 60D is active and that my order will ship shortly. I'm guessing this is that confirmation email a lot of us were waiting for. Hopefully they ship soon. Can't wait to start using this camera.

[DVDManiac]

Some deals for Nikon owners:

Broadway Camera (Metro Vancouver)
Nikon SB-700 Flash - $339.99
Broadway Camera link - not sure how much shipping will be (http://www.bccamera.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=4675)

Future Shop
Nikon AF NIKKOR 50mm f/1.8D Lens - $139.99
Future Shop Link (OOS but can still order) (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/nikon-nikon-af-nikkor-50mm-f-1-8d-lens-af-nikkor-50mm-f-1-8/10077570.aspx?path=c777ea69318ed91d4e2d125877cfad8 den02)

[feminazi]

I received this email from FS when I ordered the 60D Tech Spree:

"order. . . was successfully processed today. We will ship each item as it becomes available. There is no extra cost for separate shipments and you will only be charged at the time we ship that item. In addition we will send you a new ship notice email as each item ships from our facilities."

From the Tech Spree confirmation email and people's posts here it seems like this isn't the case . . .

Regarding the Canon 60D itself;

1) Does anyone here have opinions experience using the video mode that can comment on the 60D not having continuous autofocus? I believe T2i owners often focus manually and some say with practice you can keep the subject in focus even if it moves closer or farther away . . .

2) Regarding the 60D missing the Lens AF Microadjust feature, is this a big deal considering the kit lens is a Canon one and will there be a hack or firmware update to enable it?

[lindmar]

http://www.express-electronics24.de/product.php?id_product=48

$1,610.00 tax incl.
Canon EOS 5D Mark II 21.1MP Digital SLR (Body Only)
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Lens
Canon Gadget Bag
Canon 5D Mark II Battery Grip
Canon 5D Mark II Battery Pack
32GB CF Deluxe Adventures Package

LOOKS SOOOOO SKETCHY!:lol:

Send this one to all the senior citizens

[pompoco]

FS charged my card with the order of the 60D Tech spree deal, so shipping should start soon ;)

[wetsnot]

vistek deal of day
nikon 18-105mm lens $294.95
http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

[pulsar123]

Any idea how good is this slingshot camera bag from Black's?

http://www.blacks.ca/blacks/jump/product/5425/Blacks+Expert+Selects+DSLR+Sling+Pack/cat80021/Bags/product.jsp?skuId=5425&prdId=5425&bauth=1

It's currently on sale for 40$ (regular price 80$). It looks like it goes on sale quite regularly. There is absolutely no information on their website, but from the photo, size-wise it looks more like Lowepro slingshot 200 than 100 - it can fit camera + three lenses and a flash.

It's probably also comparable to the slingshot bag from costco for 38$ (Swissgear). I have it, never liked it (it doesn't protect the lenses from the camera - no cushion in between), and now that I upgraded to Canon 50D, it is too small for me (camera with Tamron 17-50mm will not fit in). At least from the photo, the Black's bag seems to be better (there is a cushion between the camera and lenses), and price is now almost the same.

I'll probably walk to the Black's tonight, to try it out...

If anyone is interested, Henry's is selling one brand-new (on warranty) Lowepro Slingshot 200 AW on ebay, with buy it now price 65$ (comes to 81.50$ with shipping and taxes, in Ontario).

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300518989774&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[pulsar123]

I just bought the Black's slingshot bag for 40$, and I love it! It is actually similar to Lowepro Slingshot 100 (not 200), and is much better than the Swiss gear bag from Costco for 38$. The biggest advantage: normal arrangement of the camera and the lenses, which prevents them from banging each other. I can fit all my gear: Canon 50D with either of the three lenses attached (Canon 135mm f2L, Sigma 10-20mm, Tamron 15-50mm f2.8 - all with their hoods attached), plus the other two lenses separately, and the flash (Canon 580 EX). The second big advantage over the Swiss gear bag is the second belt (like the one Lowepro slingshots have), which makes it more secure, and probably would allow using it while riding a bike. Like both Swiss gear and Lowepro AW, this bag has a rain hood.

[spinbot]

For the camera guru's, can you suggest where would be the best place for me to acquire a Nikon D90 body?

I found the old link at the start of this thread for:
https://www.thecamerastore.com/products/cameras/digital-cameras/digital-slr-cameras/nikon-d90-body

Although, this is out of stock :( The price, compared to Best Buy, had it been available, was $200 less.

Thanks guys and gals! :)

[ggweci]

For the camera guru's, can you suggest where would be the best place for me to acquire a Nikon D90 body?

I found the old link at the start of this thread for:
https://www.thecamerastore.com/products/cameras/digital-cameras/digital-slr-cameras/nikon-d90-body

Although, this is out of stock :( The price, compared to Best Buy, had it been available, was $200 less.

Thanks guys and gals! :)

Here are the lowest prices:

http://www.photoprice.ca/product/02664/Nikon-D90-price.html

Looks like Camera Canada and Simon's Camera have stock. You can get BB/FS/Henry's to price match them if you'd rather pick it up in person.

[spinbot]

Thanks for the URL!

[hevnsnt]

vistek deal of day
nikon 18-105mm lens $294.95
http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

I have a used one for sale if anybody wants it. In excellent condition except missing front lens cap. $180

[canuckkat]

Futureshop has the D3100 with 18-55mm VR lens + bag + tripod for $699.99 for their VIP sale.

Link: http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/-/b9001366.aspx?path=b80e191bf622fa6b2290fb71aba009a ben02

[StewieLoose]

Same Camera without the kit for 649 less 10% as well as the VIP sale.

[DVDManiac]

The Nikon Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D lens is now $126 at Future Shop...I don't even need it but might buy it for that price.

[densil_lopez]

nikon d7000 with 18-105 lens kit is 1499(100$ off from regular price).. and current vip sale has additional 10% off... so the price of this kit is 1349$ once you add it to the cart... lowest so far.....

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/nikon-nikon-d7000-16-2mp-digital-slr-camera-with-af-s-dx-18-105mm-vr-lens-kit-d7000/10155648.aspx

[maxsmith]

Help. Does anyone know which T2i package I should get? one w/18-55IS, one w/18-135IS, one w/18-55IS and 55-250IS or one w/18-55IS and 75-300?
Thanks.

[gdnmatrix]

No1 is talking about Olympus cameras...whatever happen to Olympus?

I also notice Henry's has stopped advertising the cameras in their flyer's that they send out ever so often.

Is it just the battle between Nikon vs Canon?

There are advantages to the 4/3rd technology.

[kunamvahees]

The Nikon Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D lens is now $126 at Future Shop...I don't even need it but might buy it for that price.
The DSLRs are incomplete without this lens.. What a difference this lens make on images.. AMAZING!!!!!


nikon d7000 with 18-105 lens kit is 1499(100$ off from regular price).. and current vip sale has additional 10% off... so the price of this kit is 1349$ once you add it to the cart... lowest so far.....

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/nikon-nikon-d7000-16-2mp-digital-slr-camera-with-af-s-dx-18-105mm-vr-lens-kit-d7000/10155648.aspx
Im planning to buy it. If anyone need the 18-105mm Lens, PM me. I will sell it as I already have Nikon 18-200mm VR.

[canuckkat]

The DSLRs are incomplete without this lens.. What a difference this lens make on images.. AMAZING!!!!!

Can't the D90 use that?

[zero383]

Can't the D90 use that?

Yes. I'm using one for my D90.

[cfedu]

Yes. I'm using one for my D90.

Will the auto-focus work with my D60, I'm a newbie , and have been hearing conflicting things on the auto Focus.

If it does I', going to buy this

[Ghostman]

Help. Does anyone know which T2i package I should get? one w/18-55IS, one w/18-135IS, one w/18-55IS and 55-250IS or one w/18-55IS and 75-300?
Thanks.

Hi Maxsmith,
I'm a noob to photography as well, but for lenses, it really depends on your budget and what you're looking for. I talked to a number of my photography friends and their feedback is that the 18-135IS is a decent carry around lens will let you take most shots without having to switch lenses. With that said, two lenses should offer slightly better quality and more range. If you plan to do lots of outdoor photography, the longer lenses would be useful. Between the 55-250IS and 75-300, the 55-250IS is the better of the two (and more $$) because it is image stabilized. I've been told that for the 75-300, a stand is highly recommended to take shots.

With that said, remember that these are entry lenses...the really good ones (L) are over 1k.

Price wise, 18-55IS lens kit is cheapest. But also most limited in capabilities.

Hope this helps!
Ghostman

[zero383]

Will the auto-focus work with my D60, I'm a newbie , and have been hearing conflicting things on the auto Focus.

If it does I', going to buy this

Sorry, the D60 does not have a motor in the camera therefore the AF will not work with the 50mm f1.8. The AF with that lens is screw driven. You can still manually focus it of course.

In order to have auto-focus work with the D60, you'll need to use lenses with the AF-S designation which means there's a focusing motor built inside the lens

[kunamvahees]

Can't the D90 use that?

I am using it on D90 without an issue. But my friend couldn't use it on his D40/D60 I guess.

[kunamvahees]

Sorry, the D60 does not have a motor in the camera therefore the AF will not work with the 50mm f1.8. The AF with that lens is screw driven. You can still manually focus it of course.

In order to have auto-focus work with the D60, you'll need to use lenses with the AF-S designation which means there's a focusing motor built inside the lens

+1

[coolman217]

Help. Does anyone know which T2i package I should get? one w/18-55IS, one w/18-135IS, one w/18-55IS and 55-250IS or one w/18-55IS and 75-300?
Thanks.

If you want a plain and simple walk around lens, take the 18-135mm IS. As someone mentioned, you should get a slightly better image quality using 18-55mm paired with 55-250 IS. The 75-300mm lens is very crappy IMO. I had it and was not satisfied with it. The 55-250mm IS is amazing for the performance/price ratio.

[fng303]

No1 is talking about Olympus cameras...whatever happen to Olympus?

I also notice Henry's has stopped advertising the cameras in their flyer's that they send out ever so often.

Is it just the battle between Nikon vs Canon?

There are advantages to the 4/3rd technology.

No advantages to 4/3rd technology.
I have E-410 and E-pl1.
I am jumping ship to Canon and a 60D should arrive tomorrow.

[fayafaya1234]

has anyone seen or heard of good deals on the D700, assuming the next replacement is gonna be out soon?

i am losing sleep over this right now:

1. wait for D800 (or whatever the D700 replacement is called) + 50mm f/1.8
2. D700 + 50mm f/1.8
3. D3100 + 35mm f/1.4 + 10-24mm f/3.5

which one which one which one?
oh man, my head hurts

[pompoco]

Help. Does anyone know which T2i package I should get? one w/18-55IS, one w/18-135IS, one w/18-55IS and 55-250IS or one w/18-55IS and 75-300?
Thanks.

The 18-135 is a very capable lens with a higher IQ than the 18-55 and the 55-250 or the 75-300.
The 2lens kit with the 18-55+55-250 gives youa good reach and IQ for ~$1100 (PM Simon's Camaera (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03332/Canon-EOS-Rebel-T2i-with-18-55-IS-and-55-250-IS-Kit-price.html)) but it's very inconvenient as I found out very fast since the split at 55mm gets you to change the lenses very often (plastic mount!).
The 18-135 Kit has good IQ and very usable FL and is very convenient for around $1050 (PM Aden Camera (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03329/Canon-EOS-Rebel-T2i-with-18-135mm-IS-Kit-price.html)).
The cheapest kit would be the 18-55 at FS $850 (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/photoprice.ca/10139993.aspx)-10%VIP right now for ~$765. and a 18-135 lens from kijiji (http://toronto.kijiji.ca/f-canon-18-135-buy-and-sell-cameras-camcorders-W0QQCatIdZ103QQKeywordZcanonQ2018Q2d135QQisSearchF ormZtrue) for $300 or less.

But if you're willing to spend over $1000 anyways think about the 60D + 18-135 kit which is $1250 at FS -10% VIP =$1125 (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-60d-18-1mp-dslr-camera-with-18-135mm-lens-kit-future-shop-exclusive-60d-18-135kit/10154253.aspx?path=1e4e813b348b8948a2359cd2a18b0d0 8en02) or with an additional battery for $1170 (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-60d-18-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-18-135mm-lens-kit-and-bonus-battery-60d-18-135kit/10159641.aspx?path=012ee6f09c77fd17deb925b26d9067f 3en02) (+$45)

The 60D has quite a few advantages over the T2i and if you can afford it, I say go for it (less than $100 extra).

[maxsmith]

The 18-135 is a very capable lens with a higher IQ than the 18-55 and the 55-250 or the 75-300.
The 2lens kit with the 18-55+55-250 gives youa good reach and IQ for ~$1100 (PM Simon's Camaera (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03332/Canon-EOS-Rebel-T2i-with-18-55-IS-and-55-250-IS-Kit-price.html)) but it's very inconvenient as I found out very fast since the split at 55mm gets you to change the lenses very often (plastic mount!).
The 18-135 Kit has good IQ and very usable FL and is very convenient for around $1050 (PM Aden Camera (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03329/Canon-EOS-Rebel-T2i-with-18-135mm-IS-Kit-price.html)).
The cheapest kit would be the 18-55 at FS $850 (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/photoprice.ca/10139993.aspx)-10%VIP right now for ~$765. and a 18-135 lens from kijiji (http://toronto.kijiji.ca/f-canon-18-135-buy-and-sell-cameras-camcorders-W0QQCatIdZ103QQKeywordZcanonQ2018Q2d135QQisSearchF ormZtrue) for $300 or less.

But if you're willing to spend over $1000 anyways think about the 60D + 18-135 kit which is $1250 at FS -10% VIP =$1125 (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-60d-18-1mp-dslr-camera-with-18-135mm-lens-kit-future-shop-exclusive-60d-18-135kit/10154253.aspx?path=1e4e813b348b8948a2359cd2a18b0d0 8en02) or with an additional battery for $1170 (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-60d-18-1mp-digital-slr-camera-with-18-135mm-lens-kit-and-bonus-battery-60d-18-135kit/10159641.aspx?path=012ee6f09c77fd17deb925b26d9067f 3en02) (+$45)

The 60D has quite a few advantages over the T2i and if you can afford it, I say go for it (less than $100 extra).

thanks. yeah, i was looking at it when futureshop has its techspree, i like the flip out monitor, but the killer is the lack of autofocus on video, as i will be taking videos. wonder if the prices are coming down again soon.

[pompoco]

has anyone seen or heard of good deals on the D700, assuming the next replacement is gonna be out soon?

i am losing sleep over this right now:

1. wait for D800 (or whatever the D700 replacement is called) + 50mm f/1.8
2. D700 + 50mm f/1.8
3. D3100 + 35mm f/1.4 + 10-24mm f/3.5

which one which one which one?
oh man, my head hurts

Oh man it's just tools ;)

I suggest get the D3100 18-55 VR kit right now from FS iT's $650 (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/photoprice.ca/10153746.aspx)-10% = $585. looking at kijiji (TO) you'd be able to sell the kit later for $550+. The Body alone would set you back ~$550 anyways and the 18-55VR is a pretty capable lens (in daylight).
Get the 50mm 1.8 as well while you're in FS since they have in on "sale" for $140 (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/nikon-nikon-af-nikkor-50mm-f-1-8d-lens-af-nikkor-50mm-f-1-8/10077570.aspx?path=c777ea69318ed91d4e2d125877cfad8 den02)-10% makes it $126, good price and you can use it on the D3100 as well.
The anouncement/release of the sucessor will (most likely) be anywhere from april to september. The D700 should fall considerably in price then and depending on the new camera deceide which one to get.
I wouldn't get the 10-24 lens unless you're absolutely sure that you need it since it's a DX lens and is not developed for use on a FX sensor the IQ deteriorates a lot outside the APS-C circle. You would be able to mout the lens on the FX body but wouldn't like the results especially since you're automatically limited to half resolution.
The 35mm prime is a nice piece but are you sure you want to drop ~$1800 on a somewhat (on FX) wide prime?
Get the DX 35mm f/1.8 for $250 and sell it later on Kijiji or the AF 35mm f/2 for ~$375 and practice manual focusing until you get the full frame body (same with the thrifty fifty) ;)
As you need the primes mostly in low light the manual focusing shouldn't be to much of a problem. For the normal street photography the 18-55 is more than sufficient and if you get the AF-S DX 35mm you get even an autofocussing "normal" lens on the D3100.
But at least you can go out and shoot :D and worry about the FX in fall....

[pompoco]

thanks. yeah, i was looking at it when futureshop has its techspree, i like the flip out monitor, but the killer is the lack of autofocus on video, as i will be taking videos. wonder if the prices are coming down again soon.

The T2i "lacks" the autofocus as well....
They have autofocus in live view and video mode but it's contrast driven and slow.... or the quick mode but that flicks the mirror and blanks the picture for a blink but that's all correctable in PP ;) Actually it's not much slower than on other "mothers" DSLRs.
It's just a little different since they're not cam- or palmcorders...
At least the Canon's can use external Mic's and don't record the motor/focusing noises :D
Manual focus sound wild but it's actually very easy (especially with tthe 18-135 since it has a nice big focus ring in the front.
Just takes 20-30mins maybe an hour tops practice and then you know how to use it ;)
MF with the 18-55 OTOH is pure hell same goes for the thrifty fifty....

[sloman]

I just bought the Black's slingshot bag for 40$, and I love it! It is actually similar to Lowepro Slingshot 100 (not 200), and is much better than the Swiss gear bag from Costco for 38$. The biggest advantage: normal arrangement of the camera and the lenses, which prevents them from banging each other. I can fit all my gear: Canon 50D with either of the three lenses attached (Canon 135mm f2L, Sigma 10-20mm, Tamron 15-50mm f2.8 - all with their hoods attached), plus the other two lenses separately, and the flash (Canon 580 EX). The second big advantage over the Swiss gear bag is the second belt (like the one Lowepro slingshots have), which makes it more secure, and probably would allow using it while riding a bike. Like both Swiss gear and Lowepro AW, this bag has a rain hood.

I went to Henry's, showed them the add and asked them to cut me a deal. He sold me the Lowepro Slingshot 200AW for $60 :-)

[djredhat]

Does anyone know where to get a cheapo spare D3100 battery? The number is EN-EL14, can't find it on DX ...

[pulsar123]

I can see EN-EL14 on ebay, for 13.86 shipping included. Not on dealextreme, buyincoins, focalprice.

[pompoco]

Just found a nice tube about live view focusing on the 60D and the same applies to the T2i and 7D!
Canon 60D Live View Focus Controls (http://youtu.be/51MmrsKeC7U)
and this absolutely stunning 60D features video (http://youtu.be/eQLwdD9BstY?hd=1).

So much for the lack of AF during video/ live view... ;)

[kunamvahees]

I bought Nikon D7000..
Im going to sell my Nikon D70s + Brand new 18-105VR + accessories = $400.
PM if anyone interested.

[markdweasel]

I bought Nikon D7000..
Im going to sell my Nikon D70s + Brand new 18-105VR + accessories = $400.
PM if anyone interested.

I think you're shortselling it somewhat. the lens alone is worth close to 300 if not more.
I would ask for at least 500.

post it on kijiji and craigslist.

Mark

[clueless]

The Nikon Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D lens is now $126 at Future Shop...I don't even need it but might buy it for that price.

can anyone help me compare the 35mm f/1.8 vs the 50mm f/1.8?
I'm trying to take indoor pictures of children, and i'm worried that the 50mm might not be wide enough. Any comments?

[pompoco]

can anyone help me compare the 35mm f/1.8 vs the 50mm f/1.8?
I'm trying to take indoor pictures of children, and i'm worried that the 50mm might not be wide enough. Any comments?

get both!
How much room do you have? if you have more than 5-6' you should be ok with the 50, if not the 35. that simple ;)

[markdweasel]

can anyone help me compare the 35mm f/1.8 vs the 50mm f/1.8?
I'm trying to take indoor pictures of children, and i'm worried that the 50mm might not be wide enough. Any comments?

I see it for 159.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/nikon-nikon-af-nikkor-50mm-f-1-8d-lens-af-nikkor-50mm-f-1-8/10077570.aspx?path=c777ea69318ed91d4e2d125877cfad8 den02

Also, it's not compatible with the D3000/D5000 AF.
I need a Prime lens for my D5000.

Mark

[Scarface74]

Question for you camera experts, I am currently using a Nikon D80 and planning to upgrade to the D90. I use the camera mainly for portrait and glamour pics. Is it justifiable to upgrade to a D90 in terms of getting better picture quality due to it's processor (I know glass has a lot to do with quality as well but that is the next investment as I would like to invest in the body first)? Currently using 18-55mm VR & 50m 1.8f with the D80.

Also, I need to sell my Nikon D80 first but don't know what the fair price to sell it. I have also have a 55-200 VR lenses that I received as a birthday gift and only use it 5 times that I need to get rid off.

Any input or advice would be appreciated.

[markdweasel]

Question for you camera experts, I am currently using a Nikon D80 and planning to upgrade to the D90. I use the camera mainly for portrait and glamour pics. Is it justifiable to upgrade to a D90 in terms of getting better picture quality due to it's processor (I know glass has a lot to do with quality as well but that is the next investment as I would like to invest in the body first)? Currently using 18-55mm VR & 50m 1.8f with the D80.

Also, I need to sell my Nikon D80 first but don't know what the fair price to sell it. I have also have a 55-200 VR lenses that I received as a birthday gift and only use it 5 times that I need to get rid off.

Any input or advice would be appreciated.

What I would do is see what others are asking for it on kijiji/craigslist
Also, I found the best way to determine the value is to go to Henry's and see what they'll offer you. Take that number and double it. That should be your asking price.

Mark

[pompoco]

Question for you camera experts, I am currently using a Nikon D80 and planning to upgrade to the D90. I use the camera mainly for portrait and glamour pics. Is it justifiable to upgrade to a D90 in terms of getting better picture quality due to it's processor (I know glass has a lot to do with quality as well but that is the next investment as I would like to invest in the body first)? Currently using 18-55mm VR & 50m 1.8f with the D80.

Also, I need to sell my Nikon D80 first but don't know what the fair price to sell it. I have also have a 55-200 VR lenses that I received as a birthday gift and only use it 5 times that I need to get rid off.

Any input or advice would be appreciated.

Why do you need to upgrade? Equipment envy? You got a great setup for portraits and glamour, no need to upgrade. The most sensible investment would be to go into better lighting support like flashes, hotlights, reflectors etc. Esp. for glamour shots the light is the most crucial!
Before you go and get another body save up for the 85/1.8 or 1.4 which are the "ultimate" lenses for portrait. Once you feel the camera slows you down or is insufficient in aquiring the results you want, get the next body...

[uglyguy]

The Nikon Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D lens is now $126 at Future Shop...I don't even need it but might buy it for that price.

Hi, do you have the link?
It shows $159 for me.
Thanks,

[dorkus99]

Just found a nice tube about live view focusing on the 60D and the same applies to the T2i and 7D!
Canon 60D Live View Focus Controls (http://youtu.be/51MmrsKeC7U)
and this absolutely stunning 60D features video (http://youtu.be/eQLwdD9BstY?hd=1).

So much for the lack of AF during video/ live view... ;)

This is mainly useful when shooting stills (photos) using live view. For videos I recomend going full manual focus since the quick mode will record as black (nothing) while the mirror flips down during the durration of the focusing, which can take a little while in the dark! the other modes are pretty much useless in the dark since it uses contrast to focus, and they are rather slow, so the constant in and out of focusing will also be recorded while using them. It's therefore much better to learn how to use manual focus and do it that way when recording VIDEOS. It's not very difficult, and after using this feature for some time you will get used to it and actually really like the effects you can achieve with it.

[richmak]

Funny to see most of the posts are talking about camera body upgrades.

Not sure if you all know, the money you spend on body is never going to give you the same bang-for-the-buck value compared with spending over lens' upgrades. Yes, most professional lens are not cheap. However, if you look at how much you have spent in upgrading your body in the past 2 years, you could have easily use the same amount of money buying a used professional lens on an outdated body.

Just try to put a 28-70 F2.8L lens on an old 20D, and you will be able to tell the big difference (as opposed to one using a 60D with 28-135 IS lens).

My 2 cents ... hope it helps most who want better quality pictures.

[dorkus99]

Funny to see most of the posts are talking about camera body upgrades.

Not sure if you all know, the money you spend on body is never going to give you the same bang-for-the-buck value compared with spending over lens' upgrades. Yes, most professional lens are not cheap. However, if you look at how much you have spent in upgrading your body in the past 2 years, you could have easily use the same amount of money buying a used professional lens on an outdated body.

Just try to put a 28-70 F2.8L lens on an old 20D, and you will be able to tell the big difference (as opposed to one using a 60D with 28-135 IS lens).

My 2 cents ... hope it helps most who want better quality pictures.

+1 with a few exceptions

noise reduction has come a long way from the days of the 20D, and if you require a camera that can perform in low light at 1600iso with minimal noise, then a upgrade is required

[MolsonAlex]

Funny to see most of the posts are talking about camera body upgrades.

Not sure if you all know, the money you spend on body is never going to give you the same bang-for-the-buck value compared with spending over lens' upgrades. Yes, most professional lens are not cheap. However, if you look at how much you have spent in upgrading your body in the past 2 years, you could have easily use the same amount of money buying a used professional lens on an outdated body.

Just try to put a 28-70 F2.8L lens on an old 20D, and you will be able to tell the big difference (as opposed to one using a 60D with 28-135 IS lens).

My 2 cents ... hope it helps most who want better quality pictures.

+1 That's why I just bought a T2i and really hope to keep it longer than the 2 previous low end camera I had for a year and a half or so

[Scarface74]

What I would do is see what others are asking for it on kijiji/craigslist
Also, I found the best way to determine the value is to go to Henry's and see what they'll offer you. Take that number and double it. That should be your asking price.

Mark


Why do you need to upgrade? Equipment envy? You got a great setup for portraits and glamour, no need to upgrade. The most sensible investment would be to go into better lighting support like flashes, hotlights, reflectors etc. Esp. for glamour shots the light is the most crucial!
Before you go and get another body save up for the 85/1.8 or 1.4 which are the "ultimate" lenses for portrait. Once you feel the camera slows you down or is insufficient in aquiring the results you want, get the next body...

Mark, thanks for the advice. I did ask Henry's and they offered $250 which I thought it was a joke.

Pompoco - The reason I am thinking of upgrading is thinking that the inner works of the D90 is better and the video capability will be useful as well. I totally agree with you in terms of lighting is very crucial but I also don't want to hold on to a camera for the next 3 yrs or so where the value has dropped so much that I won't be able to even give it away.

[sithlord23]

Just wanted to share this story.

I picked up the Nikon 50mm f1.8d from futureshop.com yesterday during there vip sale. came out to 125 + tax = 142. (reg price 159.99)

It was out of stock with a will ship when available. I chose to pick it up in store at futureshop on weston rd.

I recieved my confirmation saying I had to pick it up within 3 days.

I went to pick it up today and they told me that they couldn't give it to me for the price because the sale was yesterday. I had all the documentation stating that I put in the order and it said I had three days to pick it up.

They let me know that there is nothing they could do. After a bit of complaining they agreed to give it to me at cost of 132 which came to 149 with tax. In the end I just took it because I don't think I would have gotten the deal anywhere else.

Has anyone else run into this problem with futureshop. And my advice if you purchase anything online with pickup for any of there VIP or CA sales PICK IT UP THAT DAY.

Well I am off to write a nasty email to futureshop. Thanks for listening to me vent.

[kunamvahees]

I think you're shortselling it somewhat. the lens alone is worth close to 300 if not more.
I would ask for at least 500.

post it on kijiji and craigslist.

Mark
Thank You Mark. I gave the price $400 just on RFD.
I am planning to change the price to $450 (firm) when posting it on Kijiji and Craigslist.
The reason I dont want to ask $500 is when people want to buy D70s, they are looking for a bargain. They could through another $100 and get a new Nikon. Thank you for your advice and care.

[zero383]

Just wanted to share this story.

I picked up the Nikon 50mm f1.8d from futureshop.com yesterday during there vip sale. came out to 125 + tax = 142. (reg price 159.99)

It was out of stock with a will ship when available. I chose to pick it up in store at futureshop on weston rd.

I recieved my confirmation saying I had to pick it up within 3 days.

I went to pick it up today and they told me that they couldn't give it to me for the price because the sale was yesterday. I had all the documentation stating that I put in the order and it said I had three days to pick it up.

They let me know that there is nothing they could do. After a bit of complaining they agreed to give it to me at cost of 132 which came to 149 with tax. In the end I just took it because I don't think I would have gotten the deal anywhere else.

Has anyone else run into this problem with futureshop. And my advice if you purchase anything online with pickup for any of there VIP or CA sales PICK IT UP THAT DAY.

Well I am off to write a nasty email to futureshop. Thanks for listening to me vent.

Usually with VIP sales like these, you either have to get it shipped to you or pick it up in store during the day of the sale to get the sale price.

[dorkus99]

Just wanted to share this story.

I picked up the Nikon 50mm f1.8d from futureshop.com yesterday during there vip sale. came out to 125 + tax = 142. (reg price 159.99)

It was out of stock with a will ship when available. I chose to pick it up in store at futureshop on weston rd.

I recieved my confirmation saying I had to pick it up within 3 days.

I went to pick it up today and they told me that they couldn't give it to me for the price because the sale was yesterday. I had all the documentation stating that I put in the order and it said I had three days to pick it up.

They let me know that there is nothing they could do. After a bit of complaining they agreed to give it to me at cost of 132 which came to 149 with tax. In the end I just took it because I don't think I would have gotten the deal anywhere else.

Has anyone else run into this problem with futureshop. And my advice if you purchase anything online with pickup for any of there VIP or CA sales PICK IT UP THAT DAY.

Well I am off to write a nasty email to futureshop. Thanks for listening to me vent.

Thats just stupid.. I would have complained to high hell. I still would call their online support people and tell them what happend and have them refund you, but odds are they will tell you since you paid in store that they cant.

[Task514]

I went to pick it up today and they told me that they couldn't give it to me for the price because the sale was yesterday. I had all the documentation stating that I put in the order and it said I had three days to pick it up.

They let me know that there is nothing they could do. After a bit of complaining they agreed to give it to me at cost of 132 which came to 149 with tax. In the end I just took it because I don't think I would have gotten the deal anywhere else.

Has anyone else run into this problem with futureshop. And my advice if you purchase anything online with pickup for any of there VIP or CA sales PICK IT UP THAT DAY.

Well I am off to write a nasty email to futureshop. Thanks for listening to me vent.

That's BS... I remember to have done that in the past... but with BB. The promo price went through.

on top of that, when checking out it says what the total amount at pickup is!

[sithlord23]

Oh it is total bull. But for 7 dollars and the up hill battle I would have had to fight I just called it a draw.

[LonesomeDove]

Usually with VIP sales like these, you either have to get it shipped to you or pick it up in store during the day of the sale to get the sale price.

Not really, I have no trouble in picking up items ordered on VIP days and online only sales on the day after. I just show them the printout of the order and they adjust the price. I have done it many times.

[pompoco]

This is mainly useful when shooting stills (photos) using live view. For videos I recomend going full manual focus since the quick mode will record as black (nothing) while the mirror flips down during the durration of the focusing, which can take a little while in the dark! the other modes are pretty much useless in the dark since it uses contrast to focus, and they are rather slow, so the constant in and out of focusing will also be recorded while using them. It's therefore much better to learn how to use manual focus and do it that way when recording VIDEOS. It's not very difficult, and after using this feature for some time you will get used to it and actually really like the effects you can achieve with it.

You mean as I wote a few posts above? ;)
As you wrote in the DARK or low light, during daytime the c-focus is pretty good. More of a concern could be the aperture if you zoom in and the aperture coses down... that is plain ugly and not easily to cut since parts are missing. So better set the aperture at or above the max min (weird?) aperture to avoid the flashing.... so for the standard lenses shooting from f/5.6 or f/8 if you have a zoom or dolly shot.
Even if you use quickAF and record the blank you can cut it easily in PP but yes MF is the way to go and quite easy if you got the right lens and practice for a little bit ... Superb would be of course a follow focus attachment to "ease the pain" but then we're going advanced....

[bogey]

Nikkor AF-D 50mm f/1.8 (this is not me trying to peddle off gear) (http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-cameras-camcorders-NIKON-50MM-F1-8-AUTOFOCUS-LENS-MADE-IN-JAPAN-W0QQAdIdZ258204728)

I see used Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 ~$100 quite frequently (if you feel lucky about 2nd hand lenses). But you do need an in-camera focusing motor if you want auto-focus (basically D90 and up).

If you like to compose people head-to-toe indoors, 35mm > 50mm hands down (if you have a crop sensor body).

[DVDManiac]

Hi, do you have the link?
It shows $159 for me.
Thanks,

Unfortunately the sale price of $140 was from Jan 28th - Feb 3rd and the extra 10% off making it $126 was the VIP sale that ended 12am last night. Lowest price I have seen in Canada but like someone just posted, you may be able to find used ones but be wary if there is a Canadian warranty.

I ordered one, not really needing it since I am happy with my 35mm but after reading this I thought I would try it out:

Link (http://www.flickr.com/groups/nikkor50mm18/discuss/72157614337201782/)

[new_vr]

Just wanted to share this story.

I picked up the Nikon 50mm f1.8d from futureshop.com yesterday during there vip sale. came out to 125 + tax = 142. (reg price 159.99)

It was out of stock with a will ship when available. I chose to pick it up in store at futureshop on weston rd.

I recieved my confirmation saying I had to pick it up within 3 days.

I went to pick it up today and they told me that they couldn't give it to me for the price because the sale was yesterday. I had all the documentation stating that I put in the order and it said I had three days to pick it up.

They let me know that there is nothing they could do. After a bit of complaining they agreed to give it to me at cost of 132 which came to 149 with tax. In the end I just took it because I don't think I would have gotten the deal anywhere else.

Has anyone else run into this problem with futureshop. And my advice if you purchase anything online with pickup for any of there VIP or CA sales PICK IT UP THAT DAY.

Well I am off to write a nasty email to futureshop. Thanks for listening to me vent.
Email there customer support. My order was cancelled due to not being in stock in store, even though the web said it would be. I contacted them, and now it's being shipped to me instead, for the same price.

[wukenne]

Hi Guys,

Can you give me some advice? I have the standard 18-55 mm IS lens kit that came with my Rebel XSI. The autofocus on it died recently...I need to manually move it in one direction for it to work as if it's stuck at a certain point. I read online when that this happens, it's time to bring it back to Canon to fix (no longer under warranty). Given the $$$, people suggest to either get a replacement or a new lens. I just read that the EF-S 17-85 mm F4-5.6 IS USM lens is available for $ 429.99 at Merkle and was thinking of price matching at BB since they're selling it for $ 759.99 to save an extra $ ## and hope to get it for around $ 390.00 after price match. Any comments on this lens? I've heard that it's a very good walkaround lens and a big upgrade over the standard lens.

[pompoco]

Hi Guys,

Can you give me some advice? I have the standard 18-55 mm IS lens kit that came with my Rebel XSI. The autofocus on it died recently...I need to manually move it in one direction for it to work as if it's stuck at a certain point. I read online when that this happens, it's time to bring it back to Canon to fix (no longer under warranty). Given the $$$, people suggest to either get a replacement or a new lens. I just read that the EF-S 17-85 mm F4-5.6 IS USM lens is available for $ 429.99 at Merkle and was thinking of price matching at BB since they're selling it for $ 759.99 to save an extra $ ## and hope to get it for around $ 390.00 after price match. Any comments on this lens? I've heard that it's a very good walkaround lens and a big upgrade over the standard lens.

Good choice for a replacement. Just check that BB has it in stock instore otherwise you'll might not be able to get the PM. Another option would be the 18-135Is which has comparable image quality very fast focus newer IS system but no USM but if you don't need the full time manual focus this lens provides a lot more bang. Of course it's a little more at $470 but lately this lens surfaces on kijiji a lot for $300-$350 from people who got it around christmas as kit lens with their 7D or 60D camera.
If you get a copy of the receipt and the warranty card you're good.

[pulsar123]

Another good upgrade from a kit lens is Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 (non-VC), which can be found for ~400$ . It has less reach than 17-85mm, but it's fast (constant aperture ration f:2.8), so unlike the 17-85mm it can be used for portraits with shallow depth of field.

[pompoco]

Another good upgrade from a kit lens is Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 (non-VC), which can be found for ~400$ . It has less reach than 17-85mm, but it's fast (constant aperture ration f:2.8), so unlike the 17-85mm it can be used for portraits with shallow depth of field.

You're right about the 17-50 as being an absolute stunning lens, but you're talking out of your a** about the 17-85 not being able to be used for portaits with a shallow DOF... actually the 17-85 would be better situated for closeup portraits since it can go up to 85mm which flattens the plane quite nicely. as for bokee and DOF, you position the model farther away from the background 6'-10'+ and achive the OOF distortion this way...

[faken]

Hi Guys,

Can you give me some advice? I have the standard 18-55 mm IS lens kit that came with my Rebel XSI. The autofocus on it died recently...I need to manually move it in one direction for it to work as if it's stuck at a certain point. I read online when that this happens, it's time to bring it back to Canon to fix (no longer under warranty). Given the $$$, people suggest to either get a replacement or a new lens. I just read that the EF-S 17-85 mm F4-5.6 IS USM lens is available for $ 429.99 at Merkle and was thinking of price matching at BB since they're selling it for $ 759.99 to save an extra $ ## and hope to get it for around $ 390.00 after price match. Any comments on this lens? I've heard that it's a very good walkaround lens and a big upgrade over the standard lens.


Good choice for a replacement. Just check that BB has it in stock instore otherwise you'll might not be able to get the PM. Another option would be the 18-135Is which has comparable image quality very fast focus newer IS system but no USM but if you don't need the full time manual focus this lens provides a lot more bang. Of course it's a little more at $470 but lately this lens surfaces on kijiji a lot for $300-$350 from people who got it around christmas as kit lens with their 7D or 60D camera.
If you get a copy of the receipt and the warranty card you're good.

I've seen the lens go as low as $250.. i know i sold one at that price since i bought it for that price :).

[mcg]

Canon T3 and T3i out... but ... looks like garbage, lol. At least there might be cheaper T2i pricing :)

[coolman217]

Canon T3 and T3i out... but ... looks like garbage, lol. At least there might be cheaper T2i pricing :)

I think they just killed the entire beginner's series with these 2. The line up is completely overcrowded. What's the pricing for these?

[lindmar]

T2i is the best camera I've ever owned. The price was right, the results are phenom.

If the t3i drops pricing on the t2i, this is a really really really good thing.

[pompoco]

Wow, the T3i/600D according to the Canon product walkthrough (http://youtu.be/ENhMzbMvLIo?hd=1) will be cannibalizing the 60D...
No reason to buy the 60D unless you need the RAW processing, creative filters, ISO 12800 and top LCD.... It has the swivel-screen, wireless speedlight transmitter and full HD video recording and that for ~$900 with the 18-55IS.
So either supercheap for ~$600 with the 1100D and 720P video no swivel or $300 more for a 600D or double that for a semi pro 7D but how does the 60D fit in there now? Even though I love mine :)

[P@man]

Wow, the T3i/600D according to the Canon product walkthrough (http://youtu.be/ENhMzbMvLIo?hd=1) will be cannibalizing the 60D...
No reason to buy the 60D unless you need the RAW processing, creative filters, ISO 12800 and top LCD.... It has the swivel-screen, wireless speedlight transmitter and full HD video recording and that for ~$900 with the 18-55IS.
So either supercheap for ~$600 with the 1100D and 720P video no swivel or $300 more for a 600D or double that for a semi pro 7D but how does the 60D fit in there now? Even though I love mine :)

Apparently it is still only 3.7 fps. Canon seriously sucks because a T2i sized 60D with 10fps and top LCD would have destroyed and was probably very possible. Instead Canon skimps on it to keep their lineup segregated.

But it does have a zoom in video mode that can make your lens a really long one that the 60D lacks, which is even more lame on Canon's part.

So right now it is either nice viewfinder or smaller weight. I would usually go for smaller but I have a feeling that this is going to be like the Blackberry Pearl all over again. A smaller and slimmer bold 9700 sounded wicked on paper but they skimped on the build quality to make it cheaper.

[dorkus99]

Canon has just become greedy and comming out with stupid mid level, stupid placement cameras. Ever since the XS all these super entry level, and mid upper entry level BS has screwed up the whole line. All they needed to keep was the Entry level series (T1i, T2i, T3i), Semi-Pro level (7D, 5DmkII) and Pro (1D series). Thats it.. all the BS in between has screwed up the whole system and just ends up confusing the consumer to no end. The only reason they added all those middle junky remove bits from one and add bits from another frankenstien bodies are to try and get those who know nothing about camera equipment to buy something they dident need and pay extra for it.
For their super entry level series (XS and now T3) what they are trying to get is people who only need a point & shoot to say.. well for a few extra $$ i can get a SLR..
Their in between entry and semi-pro models (60D) are for people who really could live with a entry level T2i, T3i, but would think.. but for a few extra $$ i could get something a little better.
Oh well.. people will buy into it.. as they have.. so good on Canon for taking advantage.

[j2k]

If anyone is looking for a 1D mark IV then Aden has them on sale till today at $4200. That's the lowest I've ever seen. Here's the link:
http://adencamera.com/product-overviewer.asp?ProdID=3043&Category=6

[Captain Snazzypants]

+1 with a few exceptions
noise reduction has come a long way from the days of the 20D, and if you require a camera that can perform in low light at 1600iso with minimal noise, then a upgrade is required

A 30D can be had for as low as $300 used and the 40Ds in the $400-$500 range. I'd call this a good upgrade without going crazy on body cost, on top of the wise advice to get better glass.

As a lightweight back-up to your DSLRs, has anyone used the Canon G10. I like the sturdiness and the IQ is apparently quite good - just can't stand the thought of a pocket sized P&S. Yeah, I'm one of those guys who prefers the larger cell phones too ;)

[Task514]

Oh well.. people will buy into it.. as they have.. so good on Canon for taking advantage.

Exactly what Canon had in mind... a camera priced for every pocket!

DSLR has gone so mainstream that its going to be like shopping for a LCD tv. So many to choose from.

[dorkus99]

A 30D can be had for as low as $300 used and the 40Ds in the $400-$500 range. I'd call this a good upgrade without going crazy on body cost, on top of the wise advice to get better glass.

As a lightweight back-up to your DSLRs, has anyone used the Canon G10. I like the sturdiness and the IQ is apparently quite good - just can't stand the thought of a pocket sized P&S. Yeah, I'm one of those guys who prefers the larger cell phones too ;)

I cant exactly speak on the G10, but I do have a G7. Slightly less megapix I believe (G7 is 10mp) but overall same camera. It's ok.. and top quality for a point and shoot, but it doesnt replace my SLR's for the day to day. I love the fact that you can do absolutely everything manual (even focus), and quality is really good for a point and shoot, but it doesnt have the speed or image quality you get with a SLR. The sensor size is just no comparison as a SLR sensor.. so theres only so much you can get. Focusing is phase contrast like any point & shoot, so much slower than a DSLR. But I do find focusing faster and more accurate than a regular P&S.
Overall.. great P&S, but i wouldent consider it a replacement for a DSLR. It is however much more portable!

[pompoco]

...But it does have a zoom in video mode that can make your lens a really long one that the 60D lacks, which is even more lame on Canon's part...

That's the Crop Video mode if I understood it correctly, in the 60D as well it takes the HD Video and crops a 640x xxx part of the video ....
The video snapshot (2 or 5sec clips) seems nice but could be integrated into the 60D by firmware upgrade...
The lower FPS rate doesn't really matter to much since even the ~4FPS are pretty good for a burst and if you shoot sports all the time and need the faster FPS you'd choose the 7D for the improved focusing system alone...

Yepp nothing really outstanding enough to "justify" the price difference of the 60D over the T3i/600D. either cheap 600D or semi-pro 7D... IMHO ;)
ATM of course the 60D if you can't wait a couple month :)

[pompoco]

Exactly what Canon had in mind... a camera priced for every pocket!

DSLR has gone so mainstream that its going to be like shopping for a LCD tv. So many to choose from.

not really, since they retire the "old" models...
XS and XSi were DIGIC3 based, obviously out of production by now and I thought they keep the T1i as entry model since it's the lowest one with DIGIC4.
I guess they "reinvented" the T1i as 1100D/T3 to make an "XSi" bastard reduce the resolution by 3MP to 12MP and kept the 720P video but scrap the unusable 1080 marketing mode... So as a beginner model you get a very capable 12MP DSLR with some nice video and usable prints up to 16x24.
Spend a bit more ~$300 to get a full HD video capable 18MP T3i/600D DSLR with tilt-swivel screen and wireless speedlite trigger.
Spend a couple hundred $ more to get a "je ne se quois" 60D with a top lcd and ???? "enthusiast" level??? whatever model....
Spend another ~$300 more to get a 7D semi-pro line with dual DIGIC4 and improved focusing
Spend a lot more and get into the full frame and professional area....
During the switch a lot of nice clearance deals can be had I guess as it was with the introduction of the 60D. I guess cheap T1i and T2i ahead ;)

[pompoco]

WOWser, the 600D/T3i (http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_rebel_t3i_18_55mm_is_kit) looks very impressive for $900US (kit) even though it is speced quite a bit lower than the 60D (http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_60d) it has everything somebody could want from a non-pro DSLR.
The "n00b" entry level T3/1100D (http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_rebel_t3_18_55is_kit) will surely give the Nikon D3100 a fierce competition...

The new Speedlites are looking very promising IMHO 270EX II (http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/speedlite_flash_lineup/speedlite_270ex_ii) and the 320EX (http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/speedlite_flash_lineup/speedlite_320ex) with integrated videolight will give the 430EX II (http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/speedlite_flash_lineup/speedlite_430ex_ii) quite a run for the money as "kit" and beginner flash....

Interresting also the rumoured new 200-400 f/4 lens with IS and integrated 1.4 extender...

[blair7]

As a lightweight back-up to your DSLRs, has anyone used the Canon G10. I like the sturdiness and the IQ is apparently quite good - just can't stand the thought of a pocket sized P&S. Yeah, I'm one of those guys who prefers the larger cell phones too ;)

I use the G11 as a pocket camera. It is quite useful for times when the DSLR is just too much to cart around. I stick it in a pocket of my ski jacket and have taken some nice shots that I would not have had otherwise at Whistler.

[coolwasabi]

Canon is playing it smart.
They're not monopolizing the entry level dslr market like they used to, but they are arguably still dominating it (with Nikon). There's little reason to revolutionize their product line at this point, especially since the T2i is class-leading. The T2i is a great camera and the T3i is slightly better. Nothing wrong with the calculated approach.

Personally (as an NEX-5 owner), I'm more intrigued by Panasonic/Sony/Olympus approaches with the EVIL (or SLT) systems. Exciting times ahead for digital camera fans.

Canon won't be able to milk it's awesome (but predictable) product line too much longer. Even Nikon is rumored to be on the verge of announcing a mirror-less platform.

[wetsnot]

Canon is playing it smart.
They're not monopolizing the entry level dslr market like they used to, but they are arguably still dominating it (with Nikon). There's little reason to revolutionize their product line at this point, especially since the T2i is class-leading. The T2i is a great camera and the T3i is slightly better. Nothing wrong with the calculated approach.

Personally (as an NEX-5 owner), I'm more intrigued by Panasonic/Sony/Olympus approaches with the EVIL (or SLT) systems. Exciting times ahead for digital camera fans.

Canon won't be able to milk it's awesome (but predictable) product line too much longer. Even Nikon is rumored to be on the verge of announcing a mirror-less platform.

Carl Zeiss and Schneider Kreuznach are going to start making m43 lenses.

[richmak]

Second that. I have a 20D, 5D-MK1 and G11. All my lens are L-graded and G11 is the first P&S in the Canon G series that I'd consider using it when I really cannot use my DSLR.


I use the G11 as a pocket camera. It is quite useful for times when the DSLR is just too much to cart around. I stick it in a pocket of my ski jacket and have taken some nice shots that I would not have had otherwise at Whistler.

[P@man]

Canon is playing it smart.
They're not monopolizing the entry level dslr market like they used to, but they are arguably still dominating it (with Nikon). There's little reason to revolutionize their product line at this point, especially since the T2i is class-leading. The T2i is a great camera and the T3i is slightly better. Nothing wrong with the calculated approach.

Personally (as an NEX-5 owner), I'm more intrigued by Panasonic/Sony/Olympus approaches with the EVIL (or SLT) systems. Exciting times ahead for digital camera fans.

Canon won't be able to milk it's awesome (but predictable) product line too much longer. Even Nikon is rumored to be on the verge of announcing a mirror-less platform.

In my opinion the A55 or A580 are the class leaders and the T3i really does nothing to regain the class lead they had with the T2i. Of course they don't have to because Sony has a bad rep and the T2i is like only the best selling DSLR ever but it would be nice if the T3i bombed so the T4i would give up nothing to the 70D. Unlike the T3i that gives up plenty to the 60D and completely ignores the superior features of others in it's class.

Competition is only good when the leader feels the pressure. Unfortunately, Canon feels no pressure at all. They could have did a total body rework and made the viewfinder bigger or a penta prism at least to match the the full view EVF of the A55 and GH2. Or at least use the digisec 5 and try some type of auto focus with video. Or make the T3i give up no features to the 60D. Instead of giving up so many features and only having one feature over it. I really wanted the T3i too if it progressed a bit more. Now the question is should I get the 60D or the A55? Or wait for an A55 with better battery life? Do not want the A580 because it doesn't have the blazing fast live view or the autofocus in video like the A55 does.

[dorkus99]

In my opinion the A55 or A580 are the class leaders and the T3i really does nothing to regain the class lead they had with the T2i. Of course they don't have to because Sony has a bad rep and the T2i is like only the best selling DSLR ever but it would be nice if the T3i bombed so the T4i would give up nothing to the 70D. Unlike the T3i that gives up plenty to the 60D and completely ignores the superior features of others in it's class.

Competition is only good when the leader feels the pressure. Unfortunately, Canon feels no pressure at all. They could have did a total body rework and made the viewfinder bigger or a penta prism at least to match the the full view EVF of the A55 and GH2. Or at least use the digisec 5 and try some type of auto focus with video. Or make the T3i give up no features to the 60D. Instead of giving up so many features and only having one feature over it. I really wanted the T3i too if it progressed a bit more. Now the question is should I get the 60D or the A55? Or wait for an A55 with better battery life? Do not want the A580 because it doesn't have the blazing fast live view or the autofocus in video like the A55 does.

They werent allowed to make the T3i better than the 60D since the 60D is supposed to be higher in class to the entry level T3i. It would make no sense to release an ENTRY level camera (T3i) that was better than their upper-entry level camera 60D that was just released about 6-8months ago.
Who would by the 60D if the T3i was better?

I agree that canon feels no pressure... but honesly they dont even need a "New" body every damn year. All that produces is stupid gimicky updates with no substance.

[andreid]

We all know Canadian photo equipment prices are not the most competitive. Last night I stumbled on a Pentax lens that is priced lower ordered directly from Pentax US site than most Canadian retailers. Quite amazing!

Pentax: http://www.pentaxwebstore.com/detail/PTX+21977

photoprice: http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03433/Pentax-SMC-DA-18-135mm-F3.5-5.6-ED-AL-IF-DC-WR-price.html

[lindmar]

honesly they dont even need a "New" body every damn year. All that produces is stupid gimicky updates with no substance.

start a business, build one product, and never upgrade or come out with newer versions..

Start a restaurant, and keep the same menu year after year, making zero changes....

Same idea no?

[P@man]

They werent allowed to make the T3i better than the 60D since the 60D is supposed to be higher in class to the entry level T3i. It would make no sense to release an ENTRY level camera (T3i) that was better than their upper-entry level camera 60D that was just released about 6-8months ago.
Who would by the 60D if the T3i was better?

I agree that canon feels no pressure... but honesly they dont even need a "New" body every damn year. All that produces is stupid gimicky updates with no substance.

That is why they shouldn't even have release the T3i or Canon 60D in the first place. It doesn't make any sense. They should have delayed the T3i until they had a way to make a light OVF that can match the EVF of the GH2 or A55. Or waited until the new digi 5 was finished. Or waited until they figured out a way to do both auto and manual focus in video using a mirror. Even the D3100 tried auto focus in video and that is in a lower entry level than the T3i.

I wanted a mini 60D but got a T2i version B instead.If the T3i had a bigger and brighter OVF and autofocus in video I would have been the first in line. As it is, I hope it bombs but I have a feeling that it is going to sell like hotcakes.

[dorkus99]

start a business, build one product, and never upgrade or come out with newer versions..

Start a restaurant, and keep the same menu year after year, making zero changes....

Same idea no?

Nope.. not the same idea. I dident say NEVER come out with new versions. I just said they dont need a "new" one every year. They could easily live with an upgrade every 2-3 years when they have a substancial change to make. Not just add a few little gimmicks every year and call it a whole new camera. Ever wonder why their pro cameras only get updated every 3-5 years? Because the pro's know that all the little gimicky BS they toss into these one year wonders dont do nothing for overall image quality. Replace a body only when it does not meet your needs, which if you know what you're doing a body can last you a long time. It all goes back to what someone said about still using a 20D... in the right hands with the right lenses you would not notice a difference.

[dorkus99]

I wanted a mini 60D but got a T2i version B instead.If the T3i had a bigger and brighter OVF and autofocus in video I would have been the first in line. As it is, I hope it bombs but I have a feeling that it is going to sell like hotcakes.

Im not so sure it will sell as well as you think. LOTS of people recently got T1i's and T2i's and I honestly dont see those people upgrading anytime soon. Why should they.. those two cameras are perfectly fine, and the T3i adds nothing major to be desired that would require a rush to spend your hard earned cash. Add the fact that LOTS of people also just got 60D's so VERY recently and that's another huge group of people that would laugh at the idea of trading it in for a T3i.

There may be a lot of newcommers that currently dont own a SLR to buy into it, or people with really old bodies like the XT who are feeling pushed, but I think those who had XT's prob already upgraded last year with the T2i.

[mattchoo]

Has anyone ever looked at the Sigma 8-16?

http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03361/Sigma-8-16mm-F4.5-5.6-DC-HSM-for-Nikon-price.html

Apparently it's never moved from it's $699 USD price point in the US... and it's upwards of $799 in Canada. Ugh.

[Captain Snazzypants]

Second that. I have a 20D, 5D-MK1 and G11. All my lens are L-graded and G11 is the first P&S in the Canon G series that I'd consider using it when I really cannot use my DSLR.

Any opinion on the Canon G10? I found someone selling their mostly unused one locally for about $300
At the other end of the spectrum, another lightly used 5D (classic) for $900. Would have to get all new lenses though...


Nope.. not the same idea. I dident say NEVER come out with new versions. I just said they dont need a "new" one every year. They could easily live with an upgrade every 2-3 years when they have a substancial change to make. Not just add a few little gimmicks every year and call it a whole new camera. Ever wonder why their pro cameras only get updated every 3-5 years? Because the pro's know that all the little gimicky BS they toss into these one year wonders dont do nothing for overall image quality. Replace a body only when it does not meet your needs, which if you know what you're doing a body can last you a long time. It all goes back to what someone said about still using a 20D... in the right hands with the right lenses you would not notice a difference.

Tell that to Nikon and Pentax and Sony and....
This is the vicious world of retail - if Canon doesn't come out with something just about every year, they lose market share. For consumers, we are spoiled for choice so we should all be smiling since nobody is making us do anything, and the continuous downward price pressure benefits us a great deal, not to mention the constant innovation.


LOTS of people recently got T1i's and T2i's and I honestly dont see those people upgrading anytime soon. Why should they.. those two cameras are perfectly fine, and the T3i adds nothing major to be desired that would require a rush to spend your hard earned cash. Add the fact that LOTS of people also just got 60D's so VERY recently and that's another huge group of people that would laugh at the idea of trading it in for a T3i.

There may be a lot of newcommers that currently dont own a SLR to buy into it, or people with really old bodies like the XT who are feeling pushed, but I think those who had XT's prob already upgraded last year with the T2i.

Are you pulling these numbers out of a hat? People buy when they feel the value proposition is there (and if they have the money). I am an XTi owner who had a 30D for a short time and is now looking at getting another more recent model. I have no idea where I'll end up buying, but I like the options available. Like most other shoppers, I don't feel compelled to follow any particular retail cycle...

[dorkus99]

Any opinion on the Canon G10? I found someone selling their mostly unused one locally for about $300
At the other end of the spectrum, another lightly used 5D (classic) for $900. Would have to get all new lenses though...

Depends.. do you want portability, or quality?

Portability - G10 is a very nice and capable P&S. Price to me seems a little high, but within the ballpark.

The 5D will give you better image quality, but as you said need lenses and more expensive.

[retroshoe]

I use the G11 as a pocket camera. It is quite useful for times when the DSLR is just too much to cart around. I stick it in a pocket of my ski jacket and have taken some nice shots that I would not have had otherwise at Whistler.

I'm a Nikon user but I'm really looking forward to the newly released Olympus XZ-1. As of now, you can't beat a fast, bright f1.8 iZuiko lens on a pocket camera. Reviews for it have been really positive.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympusxz1/

[richmak]

I haven't used G10 before but from reading the forums many are commenting that G11 is the 1st G with "DSLR-like picture quality". I love my 5D-MK1 because you get the best bang-for-the-buck. I have been using my 20D since 2004 and I made the decision to go to 5D-MK1 last year. I was also considering 5D-MK2 and 1D-MK3, but each have its own issues (not to mention about their prices). I ended up getting a lightly used 5D for $1K with no regrets.

[QUOTE=Captain Snazzypants;12396471]Any opinion on the Canon G10? I found someone selling their mostly unused one locally for about $300
At the other end of the spectrum, another lightly used 5D (classic) for $900. Would have to get all new lenses though...

[wetsnot]

Henry's is selling the Sony A500 w 18-55 for $399.99
Links in OP.

[hjello]

Henry's is selling the Sony A500 w 18-55 for $399.99
Links in OP.

Sold out online, anyone know of store stock in GTA?

[puneet]

Sold out online, anyone know of store stock in GTA?

It got sold out long ago......................more than a month IIRC. I wanted it so badly, but it was sold out even in all the stores. Although it proved good for me as I got even more sweeter deal on Kijiji for the same camera.

[no8t4]

hey all,

is this a good deal for a T2i?
$800 @ sears with the EF-S 18-55 mm IS lens kit. or can I expect prices to fall further for the T2i/T1i since the new T3's came out?

http://www.sears.ca/product/canon-eos-rebel-t2i-ef-s-18-55-mm-is-digital-slr-camera-kit/657-000345553-4462B004?extid=_ca_Community_en_bazaarvoice_RLP_65 7-000345553-4462B004_digital%20cameras&extid=affiliate_comj

Edit: When i say drop further. I mean drop significantly further within the next 2-3 months. not like 5 or 10 dollars.

[wetsnot]

It got sold out long ago......................more than a month IIRC. I wanted it so badly, but it was sold out even in all the stores. Although it proved good for me as I got even more sweeter deal on Kijiji for the same camera.

it showed stock when i posted.
too bad. was a good deal.

[fruchick]

Picked up that A500 at that price a few weeks back at the Outlet store. Not an easy feat -- had to call ten times the day it showed up on the site before someone would answer the phone. Fortunately got it held for me so I could haul my ***** via Mississauga Transit to the land of carpet outlets and appliance repair centres. Fun way to spend a Saturday afternoon.

They told me they initially had 8 units, and by the time I picked mine up (30 hours after it was posted), there was only 1 left and they weren't taking holds on it. Their clearouts go FAST.

I'm very, very pleased with the A500. Upgraded from the A100, and the improvement in high ISO noise is astounding. I can actually shoot at 1600 now and have it not look like garbage. I know there are many other cameras that deal with noise way better, but I'm broke as hell, and this was the best I could ever hope for from an upgrade.

[dorkus99]

If anyone is about to pull the trigger on a Canon 60D or 7D, you may want to wait a bit longer. Acording to CanonRumors manufacture rebates are comming Feb 20th till March 20th. These will be in US only as far as they know right now, but lately I've only been buying from the US anyway since it's already so much cheaper! Since it's instant rebate no need to mail in and we in Canada can also take advantage.

60D will get a $100 instant rebate.

7D will get a $200 instant rebate.

Heres the link to the rumor..
http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/02/60d-7d-rebates-coming-february-20/

[coolman217]

If anyone is about to pull the trigger on a Canon 60D or 7D, you may want to wait a bit longer. Acording to CanonRumors manufacture rebates are comming Feb 20th till March 20th. These will be in US only as far as they know right now, but lately I've only been buying from the US anyway since it's already so much cheaper! Since it's instant rebate no need to mail in and we in Canada can also take advantage.

60D will get a $100 instant rebate.

7D will get a $200 instant rebate.

Heres the link to the rumor..
http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/02/60d-7d-rebates-coming-february-20/

Will Canada have the same offer or do we have to wait?
Any reasons why discounts are being offered?

[wukenne]

Good choice for a replacement. Just check that BB has it in stock instore otherwise you'll might not be able to get the PM. Another option would be the 18-135Is which has comparable image quality very fast focus newer IS system but no USM but if you don't need the full time manual focus this lens provides a lot more bang. Of course it's a little more at $470 but lately this lens surfaces on kijiji a lot for $300-$350 from people who got it around christmas as kit lens with their 7D or 60D camera.
If you get a copy of the receipt and the warranty card you're good.

Hi guys, I need some additional advice. I ordered the 17-85 mm Canon lens from Merkle and they said that it'll take another week for delivery. They counter-offered me a Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS instead at the same price. If I just want a better walkaround lens compared to the standard 18-55 mm kit lens, is this a good deal or should I stick or the 17-85 mm and wait another week?

[coolman217]

Hi guys, I need some additional advice. I ordered the 17-85 mm Canon lens from Merkle and they said that it'll take another week for delivery. They counter-offered me a Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS instead at the same price. If I just want a better walkaround lens compared to the standard 18-55 mm kit lens, is this a good deal or should I stick or the 17-85 mm and wait another week?

Just some reviews

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=580005&page=2

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[Lord Denning]

Hi guys, I need some additional advice. I ordered the 17-85 mm Canon lens from Merkle and they said that it'll take another week for delivery. They counter-offered me a Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS instead at the same price. If I just want a better walkaround lens compared to the standard 18-55 mm kit lens, is this a good deal or should I stick or the 17-85 mm and wait another week?

Question for those in the know.

I had an XT, which was recently stolen.

On boxing day, I bought the nifty 50 and the 17-85 for $50 and $350, only to find that day my XT was gone.

They are sitting brand new still in box

Here is the rub, since then I found out we are expecting twins, and nice HD video has become something of a priority for us.

Should I

a. get the best T2i deal I can
or b. try and sell those canon lenses and get the Sony A50?

I have nicely priced glass, but I feel an SLT would be better for me.

Thoughts?

[densil_lopez]

Canon speedlite 430ex II flash for 299 at bestbuy in their new flyer

[Tag0]

Here are my main thought points on a Sony SLT (models A5X):

Pros:
-very good noise performance
-has good video capabilities
-Higher Continuous Shots
-Benefits of Sony In-Body IS

Cons:
-because of the EVF, there is a higher battery consumption, thus less # of photos per charged battery

From what I have read, lenses have very low depreciation, thus the re-sale value could be equal to what you bought (or a little less, or sometimes a lot more!). This enables you to sell your purchased lenses quite readily.

Based on what you expect to use with your camera, I would probably recommend getting an SLT as well.

[P@man]

Question for those in the know.

I had an XT, which was recently stolen.

On boxing day, I bought the nifty 50 and the 17-85 for $50 and $350, only to find that day my XT was gone.

They are sitting brand new still in box

Here is the rub, since then I found out we are expecting twins, and nice HD video has become something of a priority for us.

Should I

a. get the best T2i deal I can
or b. try and sell those canon lenses and get the Sony A50?

I have nicely priced glass, but I feel an SLT would be better for me.

Thoughts?

Hm. Since twins sound expensive as hell, just get the cheapest package. If you don't plan on buying more lenses then sell them to fund the A55. If you are planning to buy more lenses after getting an A55, then you should probably just get the T2i and save $$$. They are both pretty good cameras.

T2i = have lenses already, manually focus controls for videos, more resolution, easier to find good lenses, good battery life.
A55 = a lot of point and shoot modes like HDR and sweep pana, limited manual focus controls for video but great auto focus, decent 10fps mode, two less mega pixels but more dynamic range, great liveview mode and full sized EVF.

For your purposes, if you don't have a camcorder then I would get the A55 for the auto focus video and great live view. If you have a good camcorder then I would get the T2i and save money.

Or this seems like a good deal if you don't mind lesser image quality from the smaller sensor and lack of dynamic range. Cheap and good. Keep in mind that it is only 720p rather than 1080i though.

http://www.blacks.ca/blacks/jump/product/31226/Panasonic-DMCG2K-w.-14-42mm/cat40008/Digital-SLRs/product.jsp?prdId=31226&bauth=1

[canadatoronto]

Any good deals on Nikon D7000 body? I've seen delas such as $100 off the body+kit lens but nothing for the body alone.

[Fife]

Any good deals on Nikon D7000 body? I've seen delas such as $100 off the body+kit lens but nothing for the body alone.

Cheapest advertised price for a D7000 body is $1200 out west

[redman2000]

No advantages to 4/3rd technology.
I have E-410 and E-pl1.
I am jumping ship to Canon and a 60D should arrive tomorrow.

No advantages to 4/3rd technology.

really?

what about the lower price? smaller bodies~ WAY less bulky? great photos? auto focusing that actually works while you are doing vids?

I can put an epl1 with a 9-18mm lens in my hoodie pocket.

I don't think you can do that with a dslr...frankly i cannot stand the look of dslrs and how you have carry them around your neck like some camera geek.

4/3s....specifically micro 4/3s rock.

and take a look at the quality here...pretty damn close to your canon 60d

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

[pompoco]

Hi guys, I need some additional advice. I ordered the 17-85 mm Canon lens from Merkle and they said that it'll take another week for delivery. They counter-offered me a Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS instead at the same price. If I just want a better walkaround lens compared to the standard 18-55 mm kit lens, is this a good deal or should I stick or the 17-85 mm and wait another week?

buy 2 ansd sell the second 18-200 for $550-$600 for an added subsidy ;)

All three lenses are very close in IQ the 17-85 has USM with full time manual override, the 18-135 has more reach and same IQ as the 17-85 and the 18-200 is a little softer in the last quarter but has great reach and IQ. All of them are better than the 18-55 and much more convenient.

[ardant]

Cheapest advertised price for a D7000 body is $1200 out west

Photoprice (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03307/Nikon-D7000-price.html) says MX (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX31225%28ME%29.aspx) has the D7000 for $1099.

[canadatoronto]

Photoprice (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03307/Nikon-D7000-price.html) says MX (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX31225%28ME%29.aspx) has the D7000 for $1099.

Just called my local camera store and they will PM 1099+20 shipping.

Thanks.

[hot3sang]

Anyone know any good deals for the Nikon d3100 with 18-55mm VR Lens? Seems like Future Shop has the best price of $649.99, compared to Best Buy and Henry's $699.99! Link (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/nikon-nikon-14-0mp-dslr-camera-with-af-s-dx-nikkor-18-55mm-vr-lens-kit-d3100-d3100/10153746.aspx?path=4bcc7472263e75dbe1d87b4ecaf8c69 een02)

[spiralspirit]

and take a look at the quality here...pretty damn close to your canon 60d

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

ridiculous. I did that, selected the 60d and the panasonic GF2.
The screengrab is too big for posting, but you can see it in its glory http://www.abstract-construct.com/unrelated/comparison.jpg 60d left, gf2 right.

no one can argue that u4/3 cameras aren't convenient, because they are, but I have to hope that anyone who is going to be spending hundreds of dollars on a camera and lenses and accessories, etc, has eyes and can see that the image quality simply isn't a competition between the two cameras.

[SSJChar]

ridiculous. I did that, selected the 60d and the panasonic GF2.
The screengrab is too big for posting, but you can see it in its glory http://www.abstract-construct.com/unrelated/comparison.jpg 60d left, gf2 right.

no one can argue that u4/3 cameras aren't convenient, because they are, but I have to hope that anyone who is going to be spending hundreds of dollars on a camera and lenses and accessories, etc, has eyes and can see that the image quality simply isn't a competition between the two cameras.

I agree, even though micro 4/3 is pretty good in terms of noise for its size, it doesn't look nearly as good as apsc dslrs when you get to iso 800 and above. It's a pretty crazy thing though, because if you were to make 5x7 prints and facebook res pics, you wouldn't really notice a difference but when you look at the pictures 1:1 (a size that you really don't ever need to see unless its for photo editing or large prints) then everyone and their mother notices the difference.
I do like the idea of micro 4/3 and the sony NEX cameras though. They can save soo much room for travellers, I got a nikon bag with my d90 and i can't even fit my camera in the bag anymore as it holds 3 lens and a flash, and with a micro 4/3 setup i could probably fit all of that stuff easily in the bag.

[spiralspirit]

I agree that they're pretty convenient, and I also think the sony NEX are in a different line than u4/3 because they actually have sensors that compare to DSLRs and image quality that compares to DSLRs, whereas u4/3 simply doesn't.

and on a printed picture you would notice a difference - just not on a web sized image.

[wetsnot]

Pentax K-r is on sale at newegg.ca $544.49
Links on OP

[wetsnot]

gah.
i hate comparing JPEGs processed in-camera. it never does a camera justice.


i also hate seeing 2 different bodies with 2 different lenses being compared.

[andreid]

LD: PENTAX k-x + 55mm $529 on clearance

[ardant]

LD: PENTAX k-x + 55mm $529 on clearance

$499 Black's, and not OOS (surprise!)

[andreid]

Ok but i did my homework before posting by checking Photoprice: http://www.photoprice.ca/product/02858/Pentax-K-x-with-18-55mm-Kit-price.html


$499 Black's, and not OOS (surprise!)

[ezpoint]

Nikkor AF-S 24-120mm f4G ED VR @ adena camera for $1124 + tax + ship

[dslrnewb]

buy 2 ansd sell the second 18-200 for $550-$600 for an added subsidy ;)

All three lenses are very close in IQ the 17-85 has USM with full time manual override, the 18-135 has more reach and same IQ as the 17-85 and the 18-200 is a little softer in the last quarter but has great reach and IQ. All of them are better than the 18-55 and much more convenient.

Cancel your order from Merkle and buy that 17-85 used from Craiglist or Kijiji for $300 (no more than that).
Most people sell that because it came with the 'kit'
Or if you really are determined to burn $800 on a non L lens then at least go for the EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS lens which is about $800 used.
The 18-200IS is not a USM lens and has an awful lens creep.
Don't buy any of these EF-S Lenses brand new. You are basically throwing money out the door.

[Captain Snazzypants]

I decided to "go low" and save my money for better glass. I got a mint 40D with only 300 shots on it for $450 instead of the $1072 ($949+tax) I was about to drop on a 60D. I will sell my so-so 17-85 IS lens and use the $622 i just saved to get either the 24-70 L or 24-105 L lens. The body is disposable - the glass is for life!

I'm FREE!!!! :lol:
(until the DSLR-HD video bug gets me...)

[dorkus99]

I decided to "go low" and save my money for better glass. I got a mint 40D with only 300 shots on it for $450 instead of the $1072 ($949+tax) I was about to drop on a 60D. I will sell my so-so 17-85 IS lens and use the $622 i just saved to get either the 24-70 L or 24-105 L lens. The body is disposable - the glass is for life!

I'm FREE!!!! :lol:
(until the DSLR-HD video bug gets me...)

Just a question.. but how do you know that 40D only had 300 shots? Seems kinda impossible to me, being that 40Ds are at least 2-3years old now. I take 300shots easily in a day! If you are just looking at the number it spits out on the filename, you do know that it only goes up to 9999 then starts all over again right. Also it's very easy to reset that number just by going into the menu.

[dslrnewb]

Just a question.. but how do you know that 40D only had 300 shots? Seems kinda impossible to me, being that 40Ds are at least 2-3years old now. I take 300shots easily in a day! If you are just looking at the number it spits out on the filename, you do know that it only goes up to 9999 then starts all over again right. Also it's very easy to reset that number just by going into the menu.

Also keep in mind that if the shutter is replaced the counter will be set to ZERO.

[Captain Snazzypants]

Just a question.. but how do you know that 40D only had 300 shots? Seems kinda impossible to me, being that 40Ds are at least 2-3years old now. I take 300shots easily in a day! If you are just looking at the number it spits out on the filename, you do know that it only goes up to 9999 then starts all over again right. Also it's very easy to reset that number just by going into the menu.


Also keep in mind that if the shutter is replaced the counter will be set to ZERO.

Yes, normally I would be skeptical as well. However, in this case the camera was only taken out once or twice before its retired owner decided it was "too much camera" for him. There is not a spec on the camera, and the person is practically a Saint so it's all good. I just wish I had met him before he sold off his similarly mint 24-105 L lens..

That said, there is a utility you can run to determine the number of actuations on a 40D (and other similar models, presumably). I gave this info to another seller who was able then to tell me the exact shutter count on his 40D:

Get the utility from http://astrojargon.net/files/misc/40dshuttercount.zip

1) Download the file
2) In Windows Explorer, unzip the file
3) Copy the .exe file into the folder where the Canon EOS Utility is installed (typically, C:\Program Files\Canon\EOS Utility)
4) Run (double-click) the .exe
5) Follow the instructions. When you press the "Get Count" button, the shutter count *should* appear next to the button.

[dorkus99]

Yes, normally I would be skeptical as well. However, in this case the camera was only taken out once or twice before its retired owner decided it was "too much camera" for him. There is not a spec on the camera, and the person is practically a Saint so it's all good. I just wish I had met him before he sold off his similarly mint 24-105 L lens..

That said, there is a utility you can run to determine the number of actuations on a 40D (and other similar models, presumably). I gave this info to another seller who was able then to tell me the exact shutter count on his 40D:

Get the utility from http://astrojargon.net/files/misc/40dshuttercount.zip

1) Download the file
2) In Windows Explorer, unzip the file
3) Copy the .exe file into the folder where the Canon EOS Utility is installed (typically, C:\Program Files\Canon\EOS Utility)
4) Run (double-click) the .exe
5) Follow the instructions. When you press the "Get Count" button, the shutter count *should* appear next to the button.

Great catch for a mint 40D then! In my opinion, unless you really need the extra reach of the 24-105, I would sugest the 24-70 f2.8 instead. I have the 24-105 and my buddy has the 24-70... and as much as I do love the 24-105 and that extra bit of reach, for me the f2.8 would be more useful now that I have the 70-200 f2.8 IS as well.
I always knew there was a a way to tell the actual shutter count but dident know how exactly. Are there similar tools for other cameras such as the XTi, or 5D, 5Dmkii?

[dslrnewb]

Great catch for a mint 40D then! In my opinion, unless you really need the extra reach of the 24-105, I would sugest the 24-70 f2.8 instead. I have the 24-105 and my buddy has the 24-70... and as much as I do love the 24-105 and that extra bit of reach, for me the f2.8 would be more useful now that I have the 70-200 f2.8 IS as well.
I always knew there was a a way to tell the actual shutter count but dident know how exactly. Are there similar tools for other cameras such as the XTi, or 5D, 5Dmkii?

Why are you giving up on the wide angle using a FF lens on a crop body.
For 40D if one wants the exact copy of reach of 24-105IS I say get the 15-85IS. The 24-70 2.8 is a total overkill as well. You will not see the benefits of L lens unless one has a fullframe or 1D series camera.
For 40D decent copy of 17-85 is even a good lens. Use the rest of the money 'saved' on training or travel.
Once ready you can always sell your crop 'kit' and 'invest' on a fullframe and L 'system'.

[dorkus99]

You will not see the benefits of L lens unless one has a fullframe or 1D series camera.


Humm.. not necessarily true. L series glass has plenty of advantages that will also be noticeable on cropped sensor cameras. For instance, L series lenses usualy have much less CA which you will also notice on a cropped sensor. In my own opinion I also believe that sharpness will also be noticeable wether you are on a cropped or full frame camera. This is all due to the quality of the glass in the lens itself, not the fact that you are using a cropped sensor or not.

Not to mention the fact that L series lenses build quality is much higher, and much more waterproof/dust proof.

Personaly, I will never buy another non L series lens, but that's mainly because I have a business to run that requires quality. For the average user.. yes non L glass will do you well.

Oh... btw.. you do know that the 1D series is cropped eh... the 1Ds series is full frame

[Captain Snazzypants]

Humm.. not necessarily true. L series glass has plenty of advantages that will also be noticeable on cropped sensor cameras. For instance, L series lenses usualy have much less CA which you will also notice on a cropped sensor. In my own opinion I also believe that sharpness will also be noticeable wether you are on a cropped or full frame camera. This is all due to the quality of the glass in the lens itself, not the fact that you are using a cropped sensor or not.

Not to mention the fact that L series lenses build quality is much higher, and much more waterproof/dust proof.

Personaly, I will never buy another non L series lens, but that's mainly because I have a business to run that requires quality. For the average user.. yes non L glass will do you well.

Oh... btw.. you do know that the 1D series is cropped eh... the 1Ds series is full frame

+1

The benefits may not be as pronounced on a cropped camera but they are significant nonetheless. That said, I wouldn't recommend any Rebel owners be dropping $2000+ on L lenses unless they were definitely going to graduate to a full frame body. Lastly, the more popular L lenses hold their value extremely well so you could almost rationalize such an investment as being a safe one.

So if you're going to get 95% of your money back and the quality is a step-up, why not go for one of the Ls?

[dslrnewb]

waterproof/dust proof.
For that very same reason I said 1D series including Ds ones are suitable. On a 40D waterproof dustproof mean jacks..t
The sharpness etc are smoke in the mirrors and in the eye of the beholder.
If your 'business' requires you to use 'L glass' go ahead since you should be able to write it off but for a person who just bought a $400 body and drop a grand or two for one lens, i say it is snake oil business advice.
Not everybody needs L type lens. But in typical consumerist fashion the lack of talent and/or laziness to learn push people to substitute them with $$.


Humm.. not necessarily true. L series glass has plenty of advantages that will also be noticeable on cropped sensor cameras. For instance, L series lenses usualy have much less CA which you will also notice on a cropped sensor. In my own opinion I also believe that sharpness will also be noticeable wether you are on a cropped or full frame camera. This is all due to the quality of the glass in the lens itself, not the fact that you are using a cropped sensor or not.

Not to mention the fact that L series lenses build quality is much higher, and much more waterproof/dust proof.

Personaly, I will never buy another non L series lens, but that's mainly because I have a business to run that requires quality. For the average user.. yes non L glass will do you well.

Oh... btw.. you do know that the 1D series is cropped eh... the 1Ds series is full frame

[KC108]

Does anyone happen to know if FS will PM B&H ? Thanks :)

[onefive]

Does BB actually PM thecamerastore?
I'm looking at the D90 =) anyone know of good sites that people sell used ones?.. besides kijiji or craigslist?

[Captain Snazzypants]

waterproof/dust proof.
For that very same reason I said 1D series including Ds ones are suitable. On a 40D waterproof dustproof mean jacks..t
The sharpness etc are smoke in the mirrors and in the eye of the beholder.
If your 'business' requires you to use 'L glass' go ahead since you should be able to write it off but for a person who just bought a $400 body and drop a grand or two for one lens, i say it is snake oil business advice.
Not everybody needs L type lens. But in typical consumerist fashion the lack of talent and/or laziness to learn push people to substitute them with $$.

That's a fair bit of "attitude" coming from a "DSLR Newb" :lol:

It is beyond dispute that once you get into DSLR photography, the real choices to be made are about the lenses, not the bodies, so there are no "snake oil" accusations required. Like I said, it makes sense to invest in an L lens if you're planning on going full-frame one day, or if print quality is really important to you. Plus it's money spent that you can always get back, even for a small profit if you shop wisely.

If someone is dim enough to buy a mid-range cropped camera and then shell out for some $2000+ L lenses without any plans or awareness of the full-frame options, then they probably deserve to be a bit poorer. Or maybe they prefer the smaller form factor and "feel" of a cropped body and want the best image quality possible - if they're happy, there are no victims here ;)

That all said, I have started to wonder how some of the lens-snobs out there would fare when presented with a series of photos taken with a mix of L and non-L lenses. I have seen some wonderful shots taken with the 55-250mm lens I recently acquired for peanuts that seem to rival the output from a 70-200mm L lens. Would it be like those embarrassing wine-tasting contests where the sommelier's ended up picking the $10 bottle over the $500 ones? I'd love to see that... :razz:

[spiralspirit]

the 55-250 is a great lens and in decent light it does a great job.

the 70-200 f/4 is a better lens (optically) but really it's in details more than anything else, lets you have a constant aperture, and is built much nicer. the 70-200 f/2.8 is for when you need the extra stop of light.

all great lenses, for slightly different purposes, and with different prices attached. the 55-250 is good for the great majority of people. Try shooting with it in a darkened bar or concert, sports, etc and you'll wish you had the extra stop.

it doesn't mean you can't take good pictures with a 55-250. People have taken great pictures with contraption cameras and lenses that people would sneer at today.

[UncleRico.]

That's a fair bit of "attitude" coming from a "DSLR Newb" :lol:

It is beyond dispute that once you get into DSLR photography, the real choices to be made are about the lenses, not the bodies, so there are no "snake oil" accusations required. Like I said, it makes sense to invest in an L lens if you're planning on going full-frame one day, or if print quality is really important to you. Plus it's money spent that you can always get back, even for a small profit if you shop wisely.

If someone is dim enough to buy a mid-range cropped camera and then shell out for some $2000+ L lenses without any plans or awareness of the full-frame options, then they probably deserve to be a bit poorer. Or maybe they prefer the smaller form factor and "feel" of a cropped body and want the best image quality possible - if they're happy, there are no victims here ;)

That all said, I have started to wonder how some of the lens-snobs out there would fare when presented with a series of photos taken with a mix of L and non-L lenses. I have seen some wonderful shots taken with the 55-250mm lens I recently acquired for peanuts that seem to rival the output from a 70-200mm L lens. Would it be like those embarrassing wine-tasting contests where the sommelier's ended up picking the $10 bottle over the $500 ones? I'd love to see that... :razz:
Agreeing with all of this. Especially the part where L lenses hold their value much better than normal, consumer lenses. If you're willing to drop the coin for your 30D,XSi,T1i or whatever, it's hardly a bad investment.

Saying L lenses on a crop body are 'snake oil' is just shortsighted. Full frame bodies will obviously get the most out of any lens you use, but crop bodies are more than capable.

[mcg]

I've heard the Canon 15-85 fairs pretty well against L lenses, and have one myself. It's darn sharp, and a great match for my T2i.

Is there a rumour about a 24-70L with IS coming out? If there is I'd hold off on that lens too.

[richmak]

Wow ... this is the first time I hear comments like this. I believe a L lens makes a big difference regardless of the crop factor of the body. I have been running on a 20D for a very long time. And my 28-70 F2.8L and 70-200 F2.8L are the 2 most used L lens. I have used other non L lens before but they are really at a different league. 24-105 F4L gives a good range but F4 is very limiting in my situations. Last year I upgraded to 5D mark I. What I have noticed is that lens show more defects when a full frame is used compared to a 1.6x body.


Why are you giving up on the wide angle using a FF lens on a crop body.
For 40D if one wants the exact copy of reach of 24-105IS I say get the 15-85IS. The 24-70 2.8 is a total overkill as well. You will not see the benefits of L lens unless one has a fullframe or 1D series camera.
For 40D decent copy of 17-85 is even a good lens. Use the rest of the money 'saved' on training or travel.
Once ready you can always sell your crop 'kit' and 'invest' on a fullframe and L 'system'.

[pompoco]

LOL @ DSLRNEWB the theory sounds nice but in real life it's a tad different.

The EF-S 15-85IS is IMHO the best crop sensor lens Canonproduced so far. Durability seems to be a bit better than the 17-55 as well without the IS failing after 2-3years... but it's to new to know for sure. The price is to high when it was on sale for $700 I picked one up and say it is really a fine piece of glass and could almost compete with my 24-105L but $700 should be the upper maximum price for the lens.

The 24-105L has a big benefit on a crop sensor very sharp wide open and basically no distortions @24mm I use it even it clubs either @f/4 1/50-1/80 or f/4.5 with strobe. Works great. The 15-85 not so much... which was to expect because of the variable aperture and f/5.6 is really to slow for club pics without strobe.

24-70 with IS would be nice but it is heavy enough as it is already didn't like to lug it around all day.

[hjello]

Does BB actually PM thecamerastore?
I'm looking at the D90 =) anyone know of good sites that people sell used ones?.. besides kijiji or craigslist?

I don't know if you are interested, but I was in the Whitby Best Buy yesterday and they had an OPEN BOX - D90 with the 18-105 VR lense (only 1 that I saw) for $899, not sure how hot this is...

[dorkus99]

I've heard the Canon 15-85 fairs pretty well against L lenses, and have one myself. It's darn sharp, and a great match for my T2i.

Is there a rumour about a 24-70L with IS coming out? If there is I'd hold off on that lens too.

According to CanonRumors.com, they do not expect to se a IS version come out in the next version of that lens. But I guess untill it does come out no one can say for sure. They have very good inside souces and get most of their rumors correct from what I've seen. ( http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/02/what-next/ )

What may be more interesteing is that they expect a 24-105L IS mkII to come out sometime

While im on the CanonRumors topic.. some people might like to know:

Save more!
News of additional lens rebates for February 20 until March 19. (US Rebates... usualy instant rebates so us Canadians can also take advantage just by buying over the border)

■EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II $200
■EF 16-35 f/2.8L II $120
■EF 70-300 f/4-5.6L IS $100
■EF 24-70 f/2.8L $100
■EF 100 f/2.8L IS Macro $100
Double Rebates if purchased with select bodies. 60D, 7D, 5D II, 1D IV, 1Ds III

I had posted a while ago that the 60D and 7D will also have rebates during the same time period.

[likkuid]

Any deals on the Canon XS or XSi? Cheapest I found XS was $500 on Dell & $472 on NCIX (but that won't work because it ships in 5-10 days.) Also, can anyone recommend a good lens for product shots? Mainly of art prints ranging from 13x19" to 24x36" as well as people wearing tees. 50mm 1.8? Thanks.

[dorkus99]

Any deals on the Canon XS or XSi? Cheapest I found XS was $500 on Dell & $472 on NCIX (but that won't work because it ships in 5-10 days.) Also, can anyone recommend a good lens for product shots? Mainly of art prints ranging from 13x19" to 24x36" as well as people wearing tees. 50mm 1.8? Thanks.

The 50mm 1.8 may be fine depending on how much of the person's body you want for the people wearing tees. If you are just shooting the shirt (croping off the head and legs) then 50mm would do. If you want full body then you'll have to stand a fair bit back since that 50mm on a cropped sensor such as the XS or XSi becomes 80mm. So you would need some room. The 50mm should do fine for the art prints. I would also recomend a nice tripod just to keep things level and steady, but I guess not a necessity.

[dorkus99]

Vistek One Day Deal
Canon T1i with 18-55 IS $629.95 + tax (free ship) ($711.84 taxes in)
http://www.vistek.ca/onedaydeals/

Not super hot, but cheapest at the moment.

[likkuid]

Is that a good buy for a beginner photographer like myself? I wouldn't mind having the HD video, could definitely have some fun with that...

[pompoco]

Any deals on the Canon XS or XSi? Cheapest I found XS was $500 on Dell & $472 on NCIX (but that won't work because it ships in 5-10 days.) Also, can anyone recommend a good lens for product shots? Mainly of art prints ranging from 13x19" to 24x36" as well as people wearing tees. 50mm 1.8? Thanks.

Deals on the XS are a little harder atm but next month you'll probably find them on final clearance for cheap but that doesn't help right now...
Get a T1i for the time beeing and return rebuy it every 1.5 weeks unethical but cheap.

For product shots on a Budget...
18-55IS lens works great, on top of that:

any tripod
remote shutter release
some bedsheets (WM $10) background and a white one to use as diffuser on seperate frames
some 2x2s and 2x4s to make frames (for the bedsheets)...
and 2 of those 300W-500W halogen construction lights... (~$10-$15ea or ~$30 on a stand) don't forget to use the custom white ballane to compensate for the light colour...
You probably can get everything for under $90 taxes in

You don't need much bokeh or fancy features for product shots but light and a steady surface.
If you set up the camera on a tripod and compose the shot you want and set the aperture to f/8-f/11 that guarantees enough DOF and sharpness, especially if the product shots will be used on a website.
shoot in RAW and use DPP to correct and crop your images save as JPEG and you're done...

[pompoco]

Is that a good buy for a beginner photographer like myself? I wouldn't mind having the HD video, could definitely have some fun with that...

the T1i is a nice camera but in march the T3 and T3i will be released. After that the T1i would dissapear from the market and you'll be able to get it cheap on clearance. Featurewise the T1i sits between the XS(i)/T3 and T2i/T3i and is a very capable camera and the cheapest one (ATM) with the current DIGIC4 processor.
The video is limited to 720p since the 1080 mode is just a marketing gag with 20fps... unusable. That said 720p is still plenty and qualitywise able to be better than those cheapo 1080p camcorders since the sensor is so much bigger and through the lenses you're able to control the DOF to have objects stand out against the surroundings.
Wait a little and grab the T1i for a bargain price.

[likkuid]

^Thanks guys. Will save that information for the future.

So Vistek's isn't a bargain price, eh? Could get it for cheaper pretty soon? This weekend my buddy's letting me borrow his 40D so I can settle with that for now.

[dorkus99]

^Thanks guys. Will save that information for the future.

So Vistek's isn't a bargain price, eh? Could get it for cheaper pretty soon? This weekend my buddy's letting me borrow his 40D so I can settle with that for now.

Nope.. not bargain price.. it is sure to drop once T3i comes out since it will basically no longer exist in their lineup. This price however is the cheapest AT THE MOMENT... so unless you need it RIGHT now.. wait.
The 40D is nice

[diverdown]

I would like to be able to video my son's hockey games and was looking at various video cameras. Some of the forums indicated that the Canon 60d and 7d cameras surpassed most video cameras when tweaked appropriately. The challenge in arenas is the variable relatively low level lighting conditions, bright hot spots, ice / glass reflection, fast puck movement and different lighting sources (sodium, florescent etc).

My daughter would also like to use the camera for a highschool photography course.

I was leaning towards the 7d but would very much appreciate suggestions on product as well as the best place to buy (I am in the US fairly often if that helps with selection).

Many thanks for you help.

[canuckkat]

Does BB actually PM thecamerastore?
I'm looking at the D90 =) anyone know of good sites that people sell used ones?.. besides kijiji or craigslist?

Used ones have no warranty whatsoever (they don't transfer) so I say buyer beware if you want to buy used (in case the body/lenses do malfunction).

[Duuuuude]

I would like to be able to video my son's hockey games and was looking at various video cameras. Some of the forums indicated that the Canon 60d and 7d cameras surpassed most video cameras when tweaked appropriately. The challenge in arenas is the variable relatively low level lighting conditions, bright hot spots, ice / glass reflection, fast puck movement and different lighting sources (sodium, florescent etc).

My daughter would also like to use the camera for a highschool photography course.

I was leaning towards the 7d but would very much appreciate suggestions on product as well as the best place to buy (I am in the US fairly often if that helps with selection).

Many thanks for you help.

I have taken tons of hockey videos of my kids with my T2i and the video quality looks downright amazing. Most times, I set the exposure to Manual mode so I can control the aperture and exposure but I usually do not have to adjust anything (besides focus obviously) after the initial setting in each arena. Depending on your aperture setting, you can even film through the protective mesh without too much trouble and taking video through the glass is has no negative effects in most cases.

Youtube is not the best place to demo HD material but this is a clip taken at 720p/60fps with the Canon "nifty 250" (55-250) lens:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYwePxtGoI8

[boykee]

I have taken tons of hockey videos of my kids with my T2i and the video quality looks downright amazing. Most times, I set the exposure to Manual mode so I can control the aperture and exposure but I usually do not have to adjust anything (besides focus obviously) after the initial setting in each arena. Depending on your aperture setting, you can even film through the protective mesh without too much trouble and taking video through the glass is has no negative effects in most cases.

Youtube is not the best place to demo HD material but this is a clip taken at 720p/60fps with the Canon "nifty 250" (55-250) lens:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYwePxtGoI8

Never seen it called the nifty 250 before lol.

Does OT in minors usually consist of skating 1 on 1?

[Duuuuude]

Never seen it called the nifty 250 before lol.

Does OT in minors usually consist of skating 1 on 1?

No, it's just a minor hockey week thing to speed things along for OT. The first minute of OT is 5-on-5, the next minute is 4-on-4, and so on with sudden death rules.

I think the nifty two-fiifty may have originated from this (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=459569)thread but I am purely speculating. :)

[T-CellReceptor]

Some usual camera deals during the Bestbuy online sale:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/best-buy-online-only-sale-sat-19-20-night-only-1005945/

[likkuid]

Any new Canon deals this week?

[Captain Snazzypants]

Used ones have no warranty whatsoever (they don't transfer) so I say buyer beware if you want to buy used (in case the body/lenses do malfunction).

Actually, Henry's sells tons of cameras and lenses on eBay all with 90 day warranties, and some with extended 3 year warranties. Their auction listings tend to go for cheaper than their Buy it Now ones, so keep that in mind. The one thing I don't like about their auctions is that they state "we have no way of verifying how many actuations are on this camera" when it's actually possible to figure that out.

Anyway, it's an option to consider...

Interesting that people are referring to that lens as the "nifty 250" which suggests it's the same sort of inexpensive high-performing lens as the "nifty 50" 1.8 lens that is so popular. I picked one of those up the other day when getting a mint XSi for $300. Fniding a 40D with 300 shots and an XSi + "nifty 250" and only 2,000 shots on it all in one week - I just love the "gently used" market!

For those photographers into golfing, the savings are even better. I've got half a dozen Cleveland drivers and wedges that were hundreds in years' past but each under $20 just a few years later. Not needing to spend to the bleeding edge has huge advantages...

[wetsnot]

Any new Canon deals this week?

you should check B&H.

[accexr]

Would like to know if this is a good deal for this lens.
http://simonscameras.com/viewdetails.asp?item=3015

[bunget]

Canon estore has the 50D + 17-85 for 949 today. Hot?

[dslrnewb]

Would like to know if this is a good deal for this lens.
http://simonscameras.com/viewdetails.asp?item=3015
Yes used ones go for $800-$900

[wetsnot]

Would like to know if this is a good deal for this lens.
http://simonscameras.com/viewdetails.asp?item=3015

yep that's pretty good.
futureshop is selling for $1500+

try to PM

[bunget]

Here is the link, in case anybody want's to get it.
http://estore.canon.ca/eStore/product?pid=7673&request_locale=en

I just got it, for 1073$ taxes included for Ontario.

[dslrnewb]

Here is the link, in case anybody want's to get it.
http://estore.canon.ca/eStore/product?pid=7673&request_locale=en

I just got it, for 1073$ taxes included for Ontario.

LOL. It was $900 + taxes at black's couple weeks ago.
The lens still sells for $350 + taxes at Merkle.

[accexr]

yep that's pretty good.
futureshop is selling for $1500+

try to PM

I tried and the lady told me Simons cameras is not on there pm list or something like that. I also called Best buy and this lady told me the description is not the same between the 2 and consider difference product. I asked to speak to her manager or anyone beside her, she put on hold for more then half an hour and final i just hand up.

[wetsnot]

LOL. It was $900 + taxes at black's couple weeks ago.


ya i remember posting that deal on 2 seperate occasions. both times they went out of stock immediately afterwards.
black's is almost as realiable at stocking deals as staples.

[wetsnot]

Canon 5D Mark II w 24-105
$3099.99 at Aden
or try to PM FS to $3049.99


links on op

[dslrnewb]

I tried and the lady told me Simons cameras is not on there pm list or something like that. I also called Best buy and this lady told me the description is not the same between the 2 and consider difference product. I asked to speak to her manager or anyone beside her, she put on hold for more then half an hour and final i just hand up.

Go buy it from Future Shop and/or bestbuy at full price. Do not buy their scam extended warranty. Just buy the lens and whatever else it comes with it as promotion (sometimes free or very cheap printer etc.)
Come back to store in 10 minutes and say you want to price match it or you will return it (go to the service counter, not the camera dept you bought it from).
This way they can't lie to you and have to do the price matching.
Simons is an authorized Canon dealer:
http://www.canon.ca/DealerLocationWeb/searchDealer#
Good luck.

[dslrnewb]

ya i remember posting that deal on 2 seperate occasions. both times they went out of stock immediately afterwards.
black's is almost as realiable at stocking deals as staples.

Still it set's the bar as to how much these things worth (in retail)

[smileydw]

Here is the link, in case anybody want's to get it.
http://estore.canon.ca/eStore/product?pid=7673&request_locale=en

I just got it, for 1073$ taxes included for Ontario.

I picked up a Canon 50D in May when I happened into my local Best Buy and they had an open box one at a very good price. It is an excellent camera. There is no video which I didn't care about (maybe next time I would be interested but listening to all the comments, dslr video seems to be at a very early stage of its evolution). The 17-85 lens will provide you with good quality and a very nice range of coverage. The body is metal (back to plastic on the 60D) and has a higher high speed frame rate than the 60D as well.
Don't know what lenses or accessories you may already have, but here are a few comments to help you with enjoying your new camera. Battery life is excellent, but always nice to have a spare. Canon battery runs about $120, found an equivalent at the Source for 10 or 20 and it has worked fine (took 550 pictures at a friend's sons hockey game last Thursday). Found another equivalent at Canada Computers for $13 and it has worked fine as well. The Canon EX430 flash provides excellent coverage and can be had for $300 on sale. Using a separate flash not only provides you with a guide number of 141 vs 18 for the in camera flash but also doesn't draw on the camera battery source. Look for Shoppers Drug mart sales to pick up 4-8 nimh AA rechargable batteries (usually $8 pack of 4 on sale) to power the flash. The nifty 50 (50mm f1.8) will give you a great lens to use in low light (children participating in school events, indoor sport, non flash portraits, etc. I paid $130 but have seen it as low as 100. Those items are what I would recommend you consider as if not essential, helpful accessories.

Since buying this camera I have taken just under 10,000 photos and had great pleasure doing so. Turned into an expensive purchase as in addition to the above items I have also picked up the Canon 100mm macro f2.8 lens, Canon 70-300IS lens (would consider looking at the 55-250 as an alternative in light of the difference in price if a telephoto is required) and a Sigma 10-20mm wide angle. Now I have too much equipment to fit into my Lowepro 202 sling bag :~) All have enhanced my enjoyment but certainly weren't absolute necessities.

Enjoy your camera. I certainly have never regretted picking it up.
Dave

[accexr]

Go buy it from Future Shop and/or bestbuy at full price. Do not buy their scam extended warranty. Just buy the lens and whatever else it comes with it as promotion (sometimes free or very cheap printer etc.)
Come back to store in 10 minutes and say you want to price match it or you will return it (go to the service counter, not the camera dept you bought it from).
This way they can't lie to you and have to do the price matching.
Simons is an authorized Canon dealer:
http://www.canon.ca/DealerLocationWeb/searchDealer#
Good luck.

That I would like to do, unfortunately it only available online. Those call agent is pain in the b*tt to talk to.

[wetsnot]

Go buy it from Future Shop and/or bestbuy at full price. Do not buy their scam extended warranty. Just buy the lens and whatever else it comes with it as promotion (sometimes free or very cheap printer etc.)
Come back to store in 10 minutes and say you want to price match it or you will return it (go to the service counter, not the camera dept you bought it from).
This way they can't lie to you and have to do the price matching.
Simons is an authorized Canon dealer:
http://www.canon.ca/DealerLocationWeb/searchDealer#
Good luck.

i hate when bestbuy and futureshop pull that stunt.

[dslrnewb]

That I would like to do, unfortunately it only available online. Those call agent is pain in the b*tt to talk to.

Then call them again and email a screen capture of Simon's Camera being an authorized online dealer. Or buy at regular price online, get it shipped to your home (for free) and go return it at a BM store with the print out from Simon's camera price and print out from Canon Canada that shows Simon's Camera is on their list. They will have to PM in ay case. All you lose is some time and perhaps shipping cost in the worst case.

[sunchaser53]

Anyone knows where to pick up a T1i package at a decent price??? Missed the Christmas sale last year...:evil: Thanks..

[dslrnewb]

Anyone knows where to pick up a T1i package at a decent price??? Missed the Christmas sale last year...:evil: Thanks..

Why T1i? Wait a month or so and get the T2i or T3 for that price.

[sunchaser53]

Why T1i? Wait a month or so and get the T2i or T3 for that price.

I just need an entrance DSL Camera with HD video feature.... Hope T2i can come down to that price soon as well....:twisted:

[accexr]

Then call them again and email a screen capture of Simon's Camera being an authorized online dealer. Or buy at regular price online, get it shipped to your home (for free) and go return it at a BM store with the print out from Simon's camera price and print out from Canon Canada that shows Simon's Camera is on their list. They will have to PM in ay case. All you lose is some time and perhaps shipping cost in the worst case.

That is the plan, but by the time the item arrive, the deal at Simon's may be over then they won't pm it even you have print out to show. I have tried it before.

[dslrnewb]

I just need an entrance DSL Camera with HD video feature.... Hope T2i can come down to that price soon as well....:twisted:

You know when the tax return season opens retailers go crazy with discounts especially on soon to be discountinued or out of 'season' items. I say wait a couple weeks.

[canuckkat]

Actually, Henry's sells tons of cameras and lenses on eBay all with 90 day warranties, and some with extended 3 year warranties. Their auction listings tend to go for cheaper than their Buy it Now ones, so keep that in mind. The one thing I don't like about their auctions is that they state "we have no way of verifying how many actuations are on this camera" when it's actually possible to figure that out.

Anyway, it's an option to consider...
I was talking about buying a Nikon off craigslist or kijiji, but that's a very good point. :)

[bunget]

LOL. It was $900 + taxes at black's couple weeks ago.
The lens still sells for $350 + taxes at Merkle.

Yes, but it was OOS in a matter of minutes.

[bunget]

ya i remember posting that deal on 2 seperate occasions. both times they went out of stock immediately afterwards.
black's is almost as realiable at stocking deals as staples.

Canon had 15 in stock this morning, I checked before the deal went on-line, and it's OOS already.

[purplekush604]

http://estore.canon.ca/eStore/product?pid=7673&
is that a good beginners camera to enter the slr market?

[wetsnot]

http://estore.canon.ca/eStore/product?pid=7673&
is that a good beginners camera to enter the slr market?

Go into a store. Ask to see demos. Hold the camera, fiddle with the controls. Attach a demo lens. Bring a CF/SD card and take a few pictures.

Asking "is this camera good" or "which is better" only produces arguments on the internet or the most irritating response of all: "why not just spend $x more and step up to a better model".



The reality is, if you're coming from a P&S, then every DSLR with any mediocre lens you try will smoke whatever you were using. You won't truly know what your preferences are until you've used one personally. So get into a store! This is what demos are for.

[purplekush604]

Go into a store. Ask to see demos. Hold the camera, fiddle with the controls. Attach a demo lens. Bring a CF/SD card and take a few pictures.

Asking "is this camera good" or "which is better" only produces arguments on the internet or the most irritating response of all: "why not just spend $x more and step up to a better model".



The reality is, if you're coming from a P&S, then every DSLR with any mediocre lens you try will smoke whatever you were using. You won't truly know what your preferences are until you've used one personally. So get into a store! This is what demos are for.

what you say it totally right i agree, but by the time i goto the store and find one i like, this deal will most likely have ended

[Captain Snazzypants]

One thing to mention about shopping at Black's - have you ever noticed that they never have Open Box sale items like you see at Future Shop or Best Buy? That's because they have a no-hassle 2-week return policy on new cameras sold (which is great), and the NEW camera you think you're buying from them might have been used by Uncle Freddie who took it to the Grand Canyon and decided he didn't like it, about 4,000 shots later (which is not so great)

I remember the day I heard that, and the silence I got when I asked the obvious question "How can you sell a camera as new when it's not?". About as bad as the time I was in Henry's and asked the guy to demo the $600 60mm 2.8 lens. He took it out of a new box, attached it, let me take a few shots, then dropped it as he was putting it back in the box - from about 10 inches above a glass counter. Someone is going to buy that "new" lens one day...

A bit of a tangent, but perhaps a vote in favour of buying online where it goes from a warehouse to your door, skipping any potential "events" like the ones chronicled above ;)
In other news, I took my 40D out for the first time today - what a beauty of a camera. I like the feel of it way more than the redesigned 60D...

[wetsnot]

what you say it totally right i agree, but by the time i goto the store and find one i like, this deal will most likely have ended

fair enough.

what camera are you using now? what type of accessories do you currently own?
what types of pictures are you taking? People? Sports? Wildlife? Indoor? Outdoor? Low light? Fine art?
how will you be displaying the photos you take with the DSLR?

[wetsnot]

One thing to mention about shopping at Black's - have you ever noticed that they never have Open Box sale items like you see at Future Shop or Best Buy? That's because they have a no-hassle 2-week return policy on new cameras sold (which is great), and the NEW camera you think you're buying from them might have been used by Uncle Freddie who took it to the Grand Canyon and decided he didn't like it, about 4,000 shots later (which is not so great)

I remember the day I heard that, and the silence I got when I asked the obvious question "How can you sell a camera as new when it's not?". About as bad as the time I was in Henry's and asked the guy to demo the $600 60mm 2.8 lens. He took it out of a new box, attached it, let me take a few shots, then dropped it as he was putting it back in the box - from about 10 inches above a glass counter. Someone is going to buy that "new" lens one day...

A bit of a tangent, but perhaps a vote in favour of buying online where it goes from a warehouse to your door, skipping any potential "events" like the ones chronicled above ;)
In other news, I took my 40D out for the first time today - what a beauty of a camera. I like the feel of it way more than the redesigned 60D...

Has anyone ever bought from Black's and checked EXIF data on the first shot? Kinda scary.

40D is a sweet ride.

[purplekush604]

fair enough.

what camera are you using now? what type of accessories do you currently own?
what types of pictures are you taking? People? Sports? Wildlife? Indoor? Outdoor? Low light? Fine art?
how will you be displaying the photos you take with the DSLR?

Just a cheap olympus 10 megapixel camera, its a regular point and shoot. No accessories at all, I want to take mostly pictures of animals and people, outdoor most of the time i believe. As for the final pictures i MIGHT one day frame them. It's more of a hobby for me, i enjoy photography.

thanks.

[wetsnot]

Just a cheap olympus 10 megapixel camera, its a regular point and shoot. No accessories at all, I want to take mostly pictures of animals and people, outdoor most of the time i believe. As for the final pictures i MIGHT one day frame them. It's more of a hobby for me, i enjoy photography.

thanks.

you could probably start lower with the body. but i think the 50d should be ok if it suits your budget.

but keep in mind your budget should have space for:

a CF card, the possibility that you need a telephoto lens, maybe a tripod, maybe a bag and small accessories.


autofocus should be good. it is weather sealed and like most canons it is built like a tank. picture quality should be good. i believe it has automatic vignetting correction. you get 10x magnification in live view on a pretty good screen.

you need to have the flash up for the autofocus lamp to turn on (never understood this), high iso performance is subpar. the 50d uses what's called gapless micro lenses that's supposed to increase the efficiency of pixels which means you're supposed to use high quality lenses to take advantage of this...never tested this gapless technology.

myself, i would not spend $900 on a 50D. i dont think it's worth it.

[canadatoronto]

Has anyone ever bought from Black's and checked EXIF data on the first shot? Kinda scary.

40D is a sweet ride.

After reading these comments I rushed and installed Iexif viewer and checked the first picture I took with my new camera I bought from Henrys. Number of shots was 1 which confirmed camera to be a brand new one.

Futureshop and Bestbuy do not sell Body Only versions of SLRs (unless you buy online) and also they don't carry most of none kit lenses and other accessories so I would still buy from camera stores such as Henrrys, Black's,... which also do price match other authorized dealers as well and If I'm worried I'll check the EXIF data and return or exchange the camera in the store if I'm not satisfied.
Also its a very good option to try a lens in the store before buying it and I wouldnt be too concerned if the lens Im buying was tried in store by another customer, unless Uncle Freddie decided to take a $1000+ Carl Zeiss lens with himself to Grand Canyon and then return it which my feeling is that most likely he wouldnt do that and he will just take the kit lens. hopefully... :)

[picp01]

Dell has the E-PL1 for 399$ right now.

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Digital_Point_Shoot/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=A3528853&baynote_bnrank=0&baynote_irrank=0&~ck=baynoteSearch

[milobloom]

you could probably start lower with the body. but i think the 50d should be ok if it suits your budget.

but keep in mind your budget should have space for:

a CF card, the possibility that you need a telephoto lens, maybe a tripod, maybe a bag and small accessories.

[snip]

myself, i would not spend $900 on a 50D. i dont think it's worth it.

Agreed.. having to repurchase flash memory (Compactflash instead of SD) and the relatively small difference in price was enough for me to save a few bucks more and get a 60D body instead of a 50D. I price matched back in January at Future Shop and got the 60D for 940ish with tax; there are supposed to be rebates coming along from Canon again soon so I'm sure it will be available again for a similar price or lower. (canadatoronto: Best Buy doesn't carry the 60D body in store but Future Shop does, in Alberta at least.)

[wetsnot]

Agreed.. having to repurchase flash memory (Compactflash instead of SD) and the relatively small difference in price was enough for me to save a few bucks more and get a 60D body instead of a 50D. I price matched back in January at Future Shop and got the 60D for 940ish with tax; there are supposed to be rebates coming along from Canon again soon so I'm sure it will be available again for a similar price or lower. (canadatoronto: Best Buy doesn't carry the 60D body in store but Future Shop does, in Alberta at least.)

the rebate is happening in the US already so B&H is a good place for canon gear especially since canon is ok with cross border warranty.

[ZIgot]

http://estore.canon.ca/eStore/product?pid=7673&
is that a good beginners camera to enter the slr market?

Definitely if you said you enjoy photography more than a hobby.

50D is probably one of Canon last XXD bodies line without video.
It has some nice features:
- Micro adjustment
- Nicer body material than it's successor 60D
- Ergonomic placement of the controls. Much better than the smaller body line.

The kit lens is not superb but is an alright lens to get you started.

[wetsnot]

Henry's has the Sony A500 with 18-55mm lens for $399.99
Links on OP

[peterchaorocks]

**** why are these thing so expensive?

[Captain Snazzypants]

myself, i would not spend $900 on a 50D. i dont think it's worth it.

+1


Definitely if you said you enjoy photography more than a hobby.

50D is probably one of Canon last XXD bodies line without video.
It has some nice features:
- Micro adjustment
- Nicer body material than it's successor 60D
- Ergonomic placement of the controls. Much better than the smaller body line.

The kit lens is not superb but is an alright lens to get you started.

The 50D is a very nice camera, but the verdict seems to be that it requires good lenses to make the most of it. Sometimes fewer pixels is better, which is why I opted for a 40D (after a stint with a 30D) instead. If it were only $100 more expensive, I'd lean towards the 50D but it can be $300-$400 more than a still-awesome 40D which doesn't make much sense when you're just starting out. Better to save that extra money for better lenses and memory and other accessories, or to just keep in your pocket/account...

[redman2000]

Dell has the E-PL1 for 399$ right now.

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Digital_Point_Shoot/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=A3528853&baynote_bnrank=0&baynote_irrank=0&~ck=baynoteSearch

best bang for buck in photoland.

[thl0103]

I went down to New York during the long weekend and had a chance to get the SONY NEX5 with 18-55mm and 16mm, 8GM sony memory stick and a NEX case for 719.99 + tax. Was this a good deal?
They had the two lens bundle for 799, but I asked if they could give me a deal on it and he lowered the price and threw in the memory stick and the case. I knew that this month is the clearance year of the previous year's models, so should I have pushed a bit more?
I'm just concerned that the price will drop here in Canada in few week with rumors of NEX 7 surfacing.
This was at the sony store in Manhattan.

[tomkuang]

Part of their DOD.

[wetsnot]

I went down to New York during the long weekend and had a chance to get the SONY NEX5 with 18-55mm and 16mm, 8GM sony memory stick and a NEX case for 719.99 + tax. Was this a good deal?
They had the two lens bundle for 799, but I asked if they could give me a deal on it and he lowered the price and threw in the memory stick and the case. I knew that this month is the clearance year of the previous year's models, so should I have pushed a bit more?
I'm just concerned that the price will drop here in Canada in few week with rumors of NEX 7 surfacing.
This was at the sony store in Manhattan.

ya that's a good deal

[dorkus99]

Vistek Daily Deal is:
Canon 60D for $919.00 (free ship, $1038.00 with tax [ontario])
cheapest you can get right now.. even with the reabate going on in the US (but not by much)

[wetsnot]

the nifty fifty is $119.99 at futureshop.
links on op

[ikarun]

Canada computers has the bundle @ $779.99

http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=9_151_154&item_id=035183

[tomkuang]

Nikon D3100 drops to 549.99 @ B&H and Amazon. B&H ships to Canada w/ very little fees (few bucks).

Link: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/730210-REG/Nikon_25472_D3100_Digital_SLR_Camera.html

Mods feel free to change link to RFD style.

[Rx-87]

Henry's has the Sony A500 with 18-55mm lens for $399.99
Links on OP


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[wetsnot]

Error on site now

must have sold out. no longer listed on website.

[pompoco]

Nikon D3100 drops to 549.99 @ B&H and Amazon. B&H ships to Canada w/ very little fees (few bucks).

Link: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/730210-REG/Nikon_25472_D3100_Digital_SLR_Camera.html

Mods feel free to change link to RFD style.

Nikon doesn't honour cross border warranty! So if something happens back to the US and they only give 1year and optional 5 year on the lens when you register it...
The kit can be had for $630 in canada which comes with canadian warranty of 2years for the body and 5 years on lenses without registeriing.
IMHO rather pay $30-$50 more to get the additional coverage.
Other than that an amazing piece of technology, the best entry DSLR IMHO ATM.

[dmak]

I was just thinking of getting the canon d7 but I think the sale/pm opportunity is over between fs and henry's. I found it at mostly digital for 1550, is are they pm able?

http://www.mostlydigital.ca/product/H134026/Camera---Digital-Camera/Canon-EOS-7D-Body-only

[tomkuang]

Nikon doesn't honour cross border warranty! So if something happens back to the US and they only give 1year and optional 5 year on the lens when you register it...
The kit can be had for $630 in canada which comes with canadian warranty of 2years for the body and 5 years on lenses without registeriing.
IMHO rather pay $30-$50 more to get the additional coverage.
Other than that an amazing piece of technology, the best entry DSLR IMHO ATM.

According to photoprice, US one is $635.89 after tax to your door(Canadian Address). Cheapest Canadian price is $726.79. So we are talking about $100 or 16% difference. So it's not a bad choice if you live close to the border. ;)

[tomkuang]

I was just thinking of getting the canon d7 but I think the sale/pm opportunity is over between fs and henry's. I found it at mostly digital for 1550, is are they pm able?

http://www.mostlydigital.ca/product/H134026/Camera---Digital-Camera/Canon-EOS-7D-Body-only

Simon's, Black's, MemoryExpress all have it for 1499.99 now.

[dmak]

Thanks, I also just found it at Don's Photo which has a local outlet (winnipeg) so fs should give me any problems with that.

[MuffDVR]

Vistek I think had it for $1439 for a long time and now it has gone up in price for a almost 2 year old camera. I was hoping it would drop below the $1400 mark before I get one. :(

[pompoco]

According to photoprice, US one is $635.89 after tax to your door(Canadian Address). Cheapest Canadian price is $726.79. So we are talking about $100 or 16% difference. So it's not a bad choice if you live close to the border. ;)

you must be blind then...
Cheapest US is B&H apparently with (faulty calculated) $596 the closes real world price is $666 from Adorama unless of course you can pull a rebate from amazon or so which would give some additional savings...still no warranty coverage in canada
Amazon doesn't ship the camera to canada, so additional expenses for amerifriend are required plus forward or pickup in the US...

The cheapest canadian price is Simons Camera with $681 to the door price... not even $20 savings here! but there is saving potential of $10-$25 on expedited shipping on the usprice so it could be up to $50 difference.....
If you got lenses already you can get the body within Canada for $582 delivered.

Photoprice Nikon D3100 18-55 VR kit (http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03282/Nikon-D3100-with-18-55-VR-Kit-price.html)

[faken]

If anyone is looking for a 5D in Winnipeg, PM me.

[PhotoPrice]

According to photoprice, US one is $635.89 after tax to your door(Canadian Address). Cheapest Canadian price is $726.79.


you must be blind then...
Cheapest US is B&H apparently with (faulty calculated) $596 the closes real world price is $666 from Adorama

You're actually both right, and the calculations on the site aren't wrong. tomkuang is from BC and pompoco is from MB -- tax very much depends on the province you're in.

The reason why it's so much cheaper for pompoco to buy from B&H is Manitoba is not an HST province, but BC is. A little known fact: when you buy from B&H to a non-HST province, B&H only charges GST. So you get the equivalent out-of-province loophole in addition to the US pricing. It's the same (rare) situation when you buy from the US and your courier clears the parcel into Canada via a province other than the one you live in.

But as pompoco mentioned, you don't get a warranty. If that's worth ~$90 to you, buy in Canada...

[tomkuang]

Cheapest US is B&H apparently with (faulty calculated) $596 the closes real world price is $666 from Adorama unless of course you can pull a rebate from amazon or so which would give some additional savings...still no warranty coverage in canada


mind to share why the price for B&H is faulty calculated? :confused:


You're actually both right, and the calculations on the site aren't wrong. tomkuang is from BC and pompoco is from MB -- tax very much depends on the province you're in.

The reason why it's so much cheaper for pompoco to buy from B&H is Manitoba is not an HST province, but BC is. A little known fact: when you buy from B&H to a non-HST province, B&H only charges GST. So you get the equivalent out-of-province loophole in addition to the US pricing. It's the same (rare) situation when you buy from the US and your courier clears the parcel into Canada via a province other than the one you live in.

But as pompoco mentioned, you don't get a warranty. If that's worth ~$90 to you, buy in Canada...

I guess photoprice was right that I pay more than pompoco because of HST. D:mad: The only better thing is that I live much closer, 20min drive, to US than pompoco. I fill up my tank regularly in US. Yeah:razz: And my previous experience is very good on Nikon.

[wetsnot]

PM against FS and Don's Photo, if you live in the mid-west. $368.99 for Samsung NX10

Links on OP.

[Onslaughtx]

I wanna grab a t2i myself..mostly for photography..don't really care about the HD Video..so the t3i is coming out sometime in March is it?
Can anyone speculate how much cheaper the t2i body only/kit will be when the t3i does come out?

[mk5gti]

i would say in the canadian market, you wont see discount that quick.... just slowly, you probably have to wait a few more months before it drops under the $700 mark. (body only)

[dorkus99]

i would say in the canadian market, you wont see discount that quick.... just slowly, you probably have to wait a few more months before it drops under the $700 mark. (body only)

agreed with ^^^^

However, why not look at a T1i instead. Those are likely to drop much quicker. It's also a decent cam.

[nagasadow]

I wanna grab a t2i myself..mostly for photography..don't really care about the HD Video..so the t3i is coming out sometime in March is it?
Can anyone speculate how much cheaper the t2i body only/kit will be when the t3i does come out?

The t2i will drop to where the t1i sat on the market. So msrp will likely drop to 799.99 and the t3 will likely be priced about 599-699. T3i will probably retail at abou 999

[ahson]

The t2i will drop to where the t1i sat on the market. So msrp will likely drop to 799.99 and the t3 will likely be priced about 599-699. T3i will probably retail at abou 999

If you're planning to get T2i, why not get the T1i for a lower price and their quality don't have much of difference. Otherwise just get the latest T3i then.

[mcg]

If you're using it only for photos perhaps you should look at a used 50D?

[ahson]

If you're using it only for photos perhaps you should look at a used 50D?

Agreed...either a T1i for a lower price or a used 50D for it's quality and control.

[skulpt]

A used 40D can produce amazing photos as well. I would go with a 40D and some nicer glass.

[wetsnot]

A used 40D can produce amazing photos as well. I would go with a 40D and some nicer glass.

i like the 40D over 50D when you take cost into account.

[wetsnot]

Nikon D7000 w 18-105 $1329

links on op

[wetsnot]

Olympus E-PL2 w 14-42mm II - Vistek $569.95
Nikon D300s Body - PM BB and Merkle - $1246.99
Nikon Speedlight SB-600 - Merkle Camera $229.99
Canon 7D w 15-85 - Henry's $2099.99
Canon 5D Mark II - Henry's $2399.99

Links on OP

[lindmar]

I was going to order something from merkle until I read their return policy....

[oakville]

5D for 2399USD, weird, since when henry's quote in USD


Olympus E-PL2 w 14-42mm II - Vistek $569.95
Nikon D300s Body - PM BB and Merkle - $1246.99
Nikon Speedlight SB-600 - Merkle Camera $229.99
Canon 7D w 15-85 - Henry's $2099.99
Canon 5D Mark II - Henry's $2399.99

Links on OP

[Captain Snazzypants]

A used 40D can produce amazing photos as well. I would go with a 40D and some nicer glass.

I have taken some stunning shots with my 40D paired with my favourite lens - the 60mm 2.8 macro. This is more than enough unless you're a pixel-peeking-pro ;)


i like the 40D over 50D when you take cost into account.

The 50D also needs really good glass to match the higher resolution it tries to work with. Cramming more pixels onto a sensor can be a step backwards in usability and IQ, the two things that matter the most. If you have L lenses, you'll benefit - otherwise, perhaps not.

[UncleRico.]

Vistek has the Nikon D7000 for $1099 now, a drop of $180. I managed to PM at Henry's and get a +2yr warranty for $129 on top.

I also have 45-day price protection :)

[Fife]

5D for 2399USD, weird, since when henry's quote in USD

Henrys has both a US$ and C$ site

D7000 for $1099 is looking pretty good.

[spiralspirit]

Vistek has the Nikon D7000 for $1099 now, a drop of $180. I managed to PM at Henry's and get a +2yr warranty for $129 on top.

I also have 45-day price protection :)

$1100 for a d7000...tempting...even for a canon shooter. the 7d hasn't gone anywhere near that low.

[wetsnot]

Olympus E-PL2 w 14-42mm II - Vistek $569.95
Nikon D300s Body - PM BB and Merkle - $1246.99
Nikon Speedlight SB-600 - Merkle Camera $229.99
Canon 7D w 15-85 - Henry's $2099.99
Canon 5D Mark II - Henry's $2399.99

Links on OP

The Canon 5D Mark II (2399 @ Henry's) is also at it's lowest since mid-Nov 2010 when Canon had rebates and it dropped to $2375

You may also want to consider PMing for the speedlite sb-600 against BB/FS but you might only get a few extra dollars off.

[ADRiiAN`]

I'm going to be buying my very first DSLR camera. I want to take up a weekend hobby and great photography has always been so interesting.

I've narrowed it down to the Canon Rebel T2i/EOS 550D, anyone here have it? Input? I don't want to spend much and I'll be waiting for my tax return money to pay for it!

PS: The reason I would choose the T2i over the T1i because of the features it has over it, especially the 1080p video.

[UncleRico.]

The T2i is a decent body to start with. The real million dollar question is what kind of photography are you looking to get into? Because that will decide what kind of lenses you want.

And lenses are where your wallet really gets scared.

[ADRiiAN`]

The T2i is a decent body to start with. The real million dollar question is what kind of photography are you looking to get into? Because that will decide what kind of lenses you want.

And lenses are where your wallet really gets scared.

I live in the city, so I would be doing a lot of city shooting, mostly in the daytime. When I get my camera, I'm planning on starting around Mississauga and shoot, and then go around Toronto and shoot and then expand my areas.

I'm also a macro nut. I love macro shots. I would love to do landscapes and night-time shots as well, but landscapes, well, I'm in the city, not much landscapes. haha

[UncleRico.]

You might want a wide angle and a macro lens then, my friend.

Depending on how you want to roll, Canon lenses are ideal but $$$, and third-party (Sigma, Tamron) are much cheaper, but QC isn't as consistent and IQ may be arguably worse.

Canon 60mm or 100mm f2.8 macros are around $400-500 and are a decent buy.

The Canon 10-22 or Tokina 12-24 are decent wideangles you can get for around $700-800.

Then again, there's the legendary all around Tamron 17-50, which will run you about $400.

EDIT: You can also get by with the 18-55 IS kit lens that comes with the t2i. The macro is unavoidable though, nothing will have a short enough focusing distance like a macro lens will.

[Bent]

EDIT: You can also get by with the 18-55 IS kit lens that comes with the t2i. The macro is unavoidable though, nothing will have a short enough focusing distance like a macro lens will. The Sigma 17-70 might be worth a try if you aren't ready to buy a dedicated macro lens yet. It will focus within a cm or two of the end of the lens.

[ADRiiAN`]

Thanks for the tips! I would def. get the kit and not just the body. I'm sure the 18-55 lens would do macro shots better than a P&S anyways, right?

[pompoco]

Thanks for the tips! I would def. get the kit and not just the body. I'm sure the 18-55 lens would do macro shots better than a P&S anyways, right?

sorry to dissapoint but no the kit lens would not neccessarily take better macro shots than a P&S.
Likely better than the $70-$99 P&Ss out there but not against better ones....
The 18-55 IS is an amazing lens in its class. For the first year you could easily get by with just that lens especially for street photography durin the day. I personally don't like the 55mm as longest FL and went straight to the Sigma 17-70 but that one is quite an extra expense for starters.
Once you learned "the ropes", you'll know how to choose the lenses you need for the stuff you like ;)
Timeframe seems good too, since the TR time "coincides" with the introduction of the T3/T3i and therefore clearance of the predecessors in the stores.
If you can stretch it get the T1i and a Sigma 17-70 (OS) for a very versatile setup otherwise you might take a closer look at the T3i kit and see how much of a price difference there is, there is a lot of advancements over the T2i especially for video which might justify the extra expense...

[no8t4]

Hi All,

I just picked up a T1i body and the Canon 50mm f/1.4 lense for $900 total.
was just wondering your thoughts on my decision to forgo the kit lens and go straight into a prime for learning. was this a good idea? or should i have stuck with the kit lens to start?

while the prime is not as versitile as the kit lens, i figured that i would like the picture quality to be there, over the standard P&S camera. after all, that's one of the main reasons for buying a DSLR.

[spiralspirit]

Hi All,

I just picked up a T1i body and the Canon 50mm f/1.4 lense for $900 total.
was just wondering your thoughts on my decision to forgo the kit lens and go straight into a prime for learning. was this a good idea? or should i have stuck with the kit lens to start?

while the prime is not as versitile as the kit lens, i figured that i would like the picture quality to be there, over the standard P&S camera. after all, that's one of the main reasons for buying a DSLR.

nothing wrong with a prime for learning - perhaps it simplifies things by removing the variable focal length and aperture that you get with the kit lens.

Either way there will be lots to learn.

[lindmar]

Hi All,

I just picked up a T1i body and the Canon 50mm f/1.4 lense for $900 total.
was just wondering your thoughts on my decision to forgo the kit lens and go straight into a prime for learning. was this a good idea? or should i have stuck with the kit lens to start?

while the prime is not as versitile as the kit lens, i figured that i would like the picture quality to be there, over the standard P&S camera. after all, that's one of the main reasons for buying a DSLR.

I think you made a great call.

I dumped everything for a simple t2i and sigma 30mm 1.4. Love this combo.

[boykee]

Hi All,

I just picked up a T1i body and the Canon 50mm f/1.4 lense for $900 total.
was just wondering your thoughts on my decision to forgo the kit lens and go straight into a prime for learning. was this a good idea? or should i have stuck with the kit lens to start?

while the prime is not as versitile as the kit lens, i figured that i would like the picture quality to be there, over the standard P&S camera. after all, that's one of the main reasons for buying a DSLR.

The prime will give you better IQ for sure, but it's not like a kit lens won't give you better quality than a standard P&S either.

That being said, some people love primes and others don't. Whether it was a good choice or not depends on your style and what you want to shoot. For example, the 50mm on a crop sensor can be very limiting indoors, but great in other situations.

[ADRiiAN`]

sorry to dissapoint but no the kit lens would not neccessarily take better macro shots than a P&S.
Likely better than the $70-$99 P&Ss out there but not against better ones....
The 18-55 IS is an amazing lens in its class. For the first year you could easily get by with just that lens especially for street photography durin the day. I personally don't like the 55mm as longest FL and went straight to the Sigma 17-70 but that one is quite an extra expense for starters.
Once you learned "the ropes", you'll know how to choose the lenses you need for the stuff you like ;)
Timeframe seems good too, since the TR time "coincides" with the introduction of the T3/T3i and therefore clearance of the predecessors in the stores.
If you can stretch it get the T1i and a Sigma 17-70 (OS) for a very versatile setup otherwise you might take a closer look at the T3i kit and see how much of a price difference there is, there is a lot of advancements over the T2i especially for video which might justify the extra expense...

I cannot find anything on the internet regarding the differences between the T2i and the T3i. I know that the LCD flips out, but that's as far as I know. I want a review site to compare the 2, to help make my decision. The T2i is already on sale, so I can imagine the price dropping soon, and T2i is almost a year old, and it's a $100 difference before the prices drops we're going to see.

Decisions, Decisions!

[Onslaughtx]

I'm looking for a d90 and I'm most likely will buy it used.
Just wondering if you guys have any tips on what to look for in terms of damage?

Other then funky sounds during operation, cosmetic damage, hot pixels..hmmm

this looks like a steal --> http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/pho/2233979296.html


+1 for the body+prime lens combo :) that's probably all that I'll be using

d90+35mm 1.8


@ADRiiAN`I think you definitely should go for the t2i :P stretch your budget and spend more money on lenses instead

[dorkus99]

I cannot find anything on the internet regarding the differences between the T2i and the T3i. I know that the LCD flips out, but that's as far as I know. I want a review site to compare the 2, to help make my decision. The T2i is already on sale, so I can imagine the price dropping soon, and T2i is almost a year old, and it's a $100 difference before the prices drops we're going to see.

Decisions, Decisions!

hands on preview of the T3i
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos600d/
plenty of info on the camera there, they even compare to the t2i

[crashz]

I love my T2i. the flip LCD is novel but I'm fine without. Would have been great to have the gyroscope for when you want to look at the picture preview though. Picked up the 50mm 1.8 Lens. Super lens, fast! Just have to get used to it

[ADRiiAN`]

I'm leaning towards the T2i, unless there is a deal for the T3i, which I doubt since it's new.

What kind of lens would I need to take pictures of Toronto from the CN tower? I'm getting a Toronto CityPASS and going to the attractions to take pictures. Mostly it's all indoor and bright so the 18-55mm kit would be great, but since I'll be in a skyscraper and shooting the city, will that lens be enough or will I need a wide-angle lens of some sort?

I'm a complete DSLR noob, so I apologize

[no8t4]

The prime will give you better IQ for sure, but it's not like a kit lens won't give you better quality than a standard P&S either.

That being said, some people love primes and others don't. Whether it was a good choice or not depends on your style and what you want to shoot. For example, the 50mm on a crop sensor can be very limiting indoors, but great in other situations.

I struggled a little bit whether or not i wanted the 50mm or the 35mm on the crop sensor. in the end i figured i would be doing more outdoor shots than indoor for the most part and that the image quality got such good reviews on the net for the 50mm f/14 lens. the option is also always there for me to pick up the 35mm lens (which i think i will probably end up doing after a few months) because it's relatively cheap (not talking about the L series!). I've seen it go for between 300-350 before taxes

yah, i realize the the kit lens will be better quality than a mediocre point and shoot. my secondary concern was that i want to get a higher end P&S for when carrying the SLR is not an option or cumbersome. my understanding is that also, the kit lens can't produce pictures that show real depth in the frame (not sure how to describe it since i'm a noob and don't know all the terminology...)

thanks for your feedback! it's much appreciated

[greatdealers]

im looking at buying a d3100, t2i, or t3i this summer

which additional glass do you expect a newbie to buy in the first year and how much do they cost?

[boykee]

I struggled a little bit whether or not i wanted the 50mm or the 35mm on the crop sensor. in the end i figured i would be doing more outdoor shots than indoor for the most part and that the image quality got such good reviews on the net for the 50mm f/14 lens. the option is also always there for me to pick up the 35mm lens (which i think i will probably end up doing after a few months) because it's relatively cheap (not talking about the L series!). I've seen it go for between 300-350 before taxes

yah, i realize the the kit lens will be better quality than a mediocre point and shoot. my secondary concern was that i want to get a higher end P&S for when carrying the SLR is not an option or cumbersome. my understanding is that also, the kit lens can't produce pictures that show real depth in the frame (not sure how to describe it since i'm a noob and don't know all the terminology...)

thanks for your feedback! it's much appreciated

No problem.

The kit lens can provide a small depth of field depending on the situation, but as you probably know, it won't be to the same extent as your prime because of the large aperture. But there are also other factors which will determine how shallow your depth of field is besides aperture, like focal length, distance to the subject and distance from the subject to the background.


im looking at buying a d3100, t2i, or t3i this summer

which additional glass do you expect a newbie to buy in the first year and how much do they cost?

I would recommend not worrying about additional lenses just yet, just shoot a lot and you will see what you tend to shoot a lot of as well as develop your own style. That will dictate future lens purposes, everyone has different needs.

What you should decide on right off the bat is whether you should go with the kit lens, or just get the body only and choose your own first lens.

[wetsnot]

I'm leaning towards the T2i, unless there is a deal for the T3i, which I doubt since it's new.

What kind of lens would I need to take pictures of Toronto from the CN tower? I'm getting a Toronto CityPASS and going to the attractions to take pictures. Mostly it's all indoor and bright so the 18-55mm kit would be great, but since I'll be in a skyscraper and shooting the city, will that lens be enough or will I need a wide-angle lens of some sort?

I'm a complete DSLR noob, so I apologize

the 18-55mm is wide angle at the shorter focal length. not a superduper wide angle, but wide nevertheless.

[Alburt]

Merkle (http://www.merklecamera.com/spec_sheet.html?catalog[product_guids][0]=9a20192b-6812-4bc8-92c4-4790d845ae41) and Vistek (http://www.vistek.ca/store/DigitalSLRs/252352/nikon-d7000-body.aspx) have the D7000 body for 1099.99 and 1099.00.

Henry's, Futureshop, and Best Buy all have it for 1199.99 so, PM opportunity again? Or is it better to wait for it to go back to 1279.99 at these shops first?

[papazow]

Merkle (http://www.merklecamera.com/spec_sheet.html?catalog[product_guids][0]=9a20192b-6812-4bc8-92c4-4790d845ae41) and Vistek (http://www.vistek.ca/store/DigitalSLRs/252352/nikon-d7000-body.aspx) have the D7000 body for 1099.99 and 1099.00.

Henry's, Futureshop, and Best Buy all have it for 1199.99 so, PM opportunity again? Or is it better to wait for it to go back to 1279.99 at these shops first?

that would only save 8 bux

[ADRiiAN`]

the 18-55mm is wide angle at the shorter focal length. not a superduper wide angle, but wide nevertheless.

Thanks a lot.

Looks like the T2i with the 18-55mm lens is a great starter for me. Now to get my tax money back! :lol:

PS: I've thanked everyone that gave their input

[coolman217]

I'm looking for a d90 and I'm most likely will buy it used.
Just wondering if you guys have any tips on what to look for in terms of damage?

Other then funky sounds during operation, cosmetic damage, hot pixels..hmmm

this looks like a steal --> http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/pho/2233979296.html


+1 for the body+prime lens combo :) that's probably all that I'll be using

d90+35mm 1.8


@ADRiiAN`I think you definitely should go for the t2i :P stretch your budget and spend more money on lenses instead


Too late. I just bought it after you posted the link :)




Kidding. bring your lens, and laptop along to test it out. Do a dead pixel test as well. F22 for like 30 seconds in the dark. See how it pans out. Take some pics. Test some functions. Look for dents, scratches, etc. Try to see if they can provide you with the receipt. Use your computer and see what the actuation is.

[coolman217]

Thanks a lot.

Looks like the T2i with the 18-55mm lens is a great starter for me. Now to get my tax money back! :lol:

PS: I've thanked everyone that gave their input


Nice choice. 18-55mm should be enough for every day use. Eventually if you find that reach ain't enough, you may opt to get the 55-250mm. Add in a 50mm 1.8 and the basic 3 should keep busy for some time. :)

[ezack]

Merkle (http://www.merklecamera.com/spec_sheet.html?catalog[product_guids][0]=9a20192b-6812-4bc8-92c4-4790d845ae41) and Vistek (http://www.vistek.ca/store/DigitalSLRs/252352/nikon-d7000-body.aspx) have the D7000 body for 1099.99 and 1099.00.

Henry's, Futureshop, and Best Buy all have it for 1199.99 so, PM opportunity again? Or is it better to wait for it to go back to 1279.99 at these shops first?

that would only save 8 bux

Those living in AB+BC can pm with MemoryExpress's current promo, additional 10% off(not difference) price beat, for $989+tax.

[nagasadow]

Anyone have any idea on how much a pixel remap and clean would be for my nikon d200???

[Onslaughtx]

Too late. I just bought it after you posted the link :)




Kidding. bring your lens, and laptop along to test it out. Do a dead pixel test as well. F22 for like 30 seconds in the dark. See how it pans out. Take some pics. Test some functions. Look for dents, scratches, etc. Try to see if they can provide you with the receipt. Use your computer and see what the actuation is.


AHHH!! i almost believed you too lol!
Thanks man for the tips, I'll definitely do that :)

Thanks button hitt'ed!

[wetsnot]

Anyone have any idea on how much a pixel remap and clean would be for my nikon d200???

give one of your local stores a call!