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Armed robbery at Markville around 6 today.

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tranquility922 wrote:
Jan 2nd, 2019 10:16 pm
* I'm saying someone else is working you up, I'm not doing anything, yet you assumed WRONGLY YET AGAIN.

There's such thing as being brave yet being foolish/stupid, that was that woman. You think they are either or, which is false.

*
More tranquility dude....
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Don't know if someone brought this up already. Perhaps, it's time to ask for a receipt if you are proposed to. Who knows where your jewellery is coming from after this incident.

The only problem is, you don't know how much the price really is.
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Catnippy wrote:
Jan 1st, 2019 9:24 pm
Only if you have the required skills
aka be a policeman. Don't encourage others to harm themselves.
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ConsoleWatcher wrote:
Jan 1st, 2019 11:39 pm
In Canada the only private security guards that can be armed are cash-in-transit guards/armoured car guards. Even then, they're taught to comply/disengage and retreat in the event of a robbery.
The jewelery store could have technically hired an armed guard with a pistol.
But its cheaper to insure items and just complywith robbery demand. Its what most do.
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UrbanPoet wrote:
Jan 8th, 2019 8:03 am
The jewelery store could have technically hired an armed guard with a pistol.
But its cheaper to insure items and just complywith robbery demand. Its what most do.
I've heard of armed guards at jewelry stores and other places where the have high-value property, but I'm not quite sure of the legality of it. I doubt that the Chief Firearms Officer, when they issued the ATC, had that purpose in mind.
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MSZsama wrote:
Dec 30th, 2018 8:13 pm
Lukfook left the Toronto market two decades ago after an armed robbery at their Pacific Mall store. I predict the same thing is going to happen.
Organized crime (non asian). Pure gold robbery. No one wants the crap 18k gold in western chain. Indian and Chinese 24k gold.

Lukfook need to hire guns for hire to protect their stores.

I am sure police can catch all the criminals. Need to waterboard him to get the intel.
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toguy wrote:
Dec 30th, 2018 10:25 pm
That's nuts - people in there must have been terrified - no idea if active shooter situation, etc.

Close up pics of the resulting damage:

They need 3M security glass. Hammer proof.
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ConsoleWatcher wrote:
Jan 9th, 2019 2:53 am
I've heard of armed guards at jewelry stores and other places where the have high-value property, but I'm not quite sure of the legality of it. I doubt that the Chief Firearms Officer, when they issued the ATC, had that purpose in mind.
100% legal.

https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/one-pe ... -1.2179285
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actually you're wrong. i hate it when kids say something 100% but are actually wrong

in canada, you can only carry a firearm if you are an armed courier. meaning brinks, etc. you CAN NOT be armed as a bodyguard.

Further, the firearm is not for protecticting the merchandise. Its for protecting HUMAN LIFE

"Kleiman said the rules are clear according to the Ontario use of force model, which is an essential part of the training necessary to be licensed as an armed guard or armed courier in Ontario. Security guards are expected to consider firearms as a last resort against a threat to their lives, and even then, only to neutralize the attacker.

"Firearms cannot be used for any other reason, they cannot be used to protect liabilities (cash, jewelry etc.), they cannot be used for retaliation or for apprehension etc," Kleiman said.

While firearms can only be used to defend human life if there is a perceived threat, the laws dictate that firearms are only to be carried by security guards overseeing the transportation of precious goods.

“You can’t carry a firearm for guarding people,” Menary said. “It has to be for precious metals, diamonds and jewelry, cash and assets, things that are moved back and forth. The legislation is straight forward.”

Menary says armed security guards in Canada work for agencies that have to be licensed federally and provincially. Federally, the RCMP look after licensing program and guards must have a PAL licence (Possession Acquisition Licence) allowing an individual to carry a gun.

Guards undergo background checks, then get training for firearms, after which they can be hired as armed guards. Once they’re active, they’re monitored by the chief firearms officer of OPP (Ontario Provincial Police) and expected to follow strict rules about the use of those firearms."
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jimmysack wrote:
Jan 10th, 2019 9:23 am
actually you're wrong. i hate it when kids say something 100% but are actually wrong

in canada, you can only carry a firearm if you are an armed courier. meaning brinks, etc. you CAN NOT be armed as a bodyguard.

Further, the firearm is not for protecticting the merchandise. Its for protecting HUMAN LIFE

"Kleiman said the rules are clear according to the Ontario use of force model, which is an essential part of the training necessary to be licensed as an armed guard or armed courier in Ontario. Security guards are expected to consider firearms as a last resort against a threat to their lives, and even then, only to neutralize the attacker.

"Firearms cannot be used for any other reason, they cannot be used to protect liabilities (cash, jewelry etc.), they cannot be used for retaliation or for apprehension etc," Kleiman said.

While firearms can only be used to defend human life if there is a perceived threat, the laws dictate that firearms are only to be carried by security guards overseeing the transportation of precious goods.

“You can’t carry a firearm for guarding people,” Menary said. “It has to be for precious metals, diamonds and jewelry, cash and assets, things that are moved back and forth. The legislation is straight forward.”

Menary says armed security guards in Canada work for agencies that have to be licensed federally and provincially. Federally, the RCMP look after licensing program and guards must have a PAL licence (Possession Acquisition Licence) allowing an individual to carry a gun.

Guards undergo background checks, then get training for firearms, after which they can be hired as armed guards. Once they’re active, they’re monitored by the chief firearms officer of OPP (Ontario Provincial Police) and expected to follow strict rules about the use of those firearms."
Um. Thx for reiterating and providing proof that it is 100% legal my dear.
Hope you have a good day hon. :)

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