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Ask me anything about fighting your traffic ticket (Speeding, Parking, etc.)

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Oct 10, 2018
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What is the risk of contesting the ticket? Based on the law, he is guilty. I can only hope for a technicality. What is the risk of trying for that?
I received a copy of the ticket because he was under 18. It included a "complement de constat d'infraction" because the officer corrected the address where the offence took place. Both the original ticket and this extra page were in French which we neither read nor speak. Am I allowed to ask for the officer's notes to be typed in English? Or is that part of the disclosure?
Also, is the police officer the prosecutor or is that a separate person?
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john5170 wrote:
Oct 11th, 2018 9:54 pm
Here is some more details and exactly what that line states:



What does this mean? Just read your second post, it means once you have a trial date you can get a copy of the video by requesting it to the court. If after watching the video and you decide to change your mind and plea guilty, you can do that.
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colourmg wrote:
Oct 11th, 2018 3:03 pm
Hi Accrecon, I've pm'd you. Thanks.
I sent the info for you via pm, did you receive it?
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MelissaC6751 wrote:
Oct 12th, 2018 10:08 am
What is the risk of contesting the ticket? Based on the law, he is guilty. I can only hope for a technicality. What is the risk of trying for that?
I received a copy of the ticket because he was under 18. It included a "complement de constat d'infraction" because the officer corrected the address where the offence took place. Both the original ticket and this extra page were in French which we neither read nor speak. Am I allowed to ask for the officer's notes to be typed in English? Or is that part of the disclosure?
Also, is the police officer the prosecutor or is that a separate person?
There should be no risk to contesting the ticket; it can't get any worse.

As far as disclosure in English, I'm not sure what's required in Quebec. It wouldn't surprise me if they can refuse to provide the notes in English. All you can do is ask on that, as well.

And the prosecutor is a different person than the police officer. The prosecutor is the lawyer who will present the case to the Justice of the Peace to try to get you convicted. The police officer will just be a witness providing testimony.

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Accrecon wrote:
Oct 12th, 2018 10:09 am
I sent the info for you via pm, did you receive it?
Just saw it! Thanks so much for the info.
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i was clocked at 83 in a 60 zone, on middlefield in scarborough, received 2 tickets, one speeding and the other "DRIVE MOTOR VEHICLE, NO CURRENTLY VALIDATED PERMIT", which i think was issued wrong possibly due to officer's lack of knowledge / experience.. below was scenario:

i was pulled over for speeding and asked for driver's license, ownership and insurance, i gave the officer my license first, then insurance and lastly what i believed the copy of ownership (this is my father's car), the papers are quite old there are actually 2 copies, the officer read one and says it expired, and then i gave another one which he said expired too. officer was speaking politely that he's sure that i have ownership, just not the current one... then he made me wait for long time and came back, still with 2 tickets.. he explained my options and mentioned if bring the valid ownership to prosecutor they might withdraw it, he also said my sticker at the back is good.. wth???

at the time when i was demanded ownership and told expired, my brain wasn't working... after i got home i realized we don't get a plate portion of the ownership with new expiry date ever since the very first time, the ownership paper does not expire (its expiry date was only referencing the original purchase), a valid sticker with expiry date+ownership should be sufficient when demanded, or am i wrong?

if i was correct, proving the officer's mistake, would it add any advantage in defending the main speeding ticket? thanks in advance

trivia: 3 cars were caught at duration of my pull over(2 after and pulled over in front of me), those cops are really aggressive
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Apr 7, 2018
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Hello ShrekTek and everyone,

here's a link to my original post with some suggestions from you, for reference:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/ask-me-a ... #p29183174


I finally got my trial date which is Nov 20th, 2018. I had asked for and was sent Disclosure data a while back but it had only written notes of the constable and nothing else:
My Friends is ok to be my witness but is in US for a family medical emergency and will be there for a few months. So I don't have a witness, at least for the current Trial date!!!

Constables notes say that my speed was 110 km/h but I remember because we saw the police cars, we slowed down and that is when
this discussion started between me and my friends in the car about the slowing down and not being able to move over into the other lane and eventually, the constable stopping us.

Any suggestions on what should be the next steps?

Thanks a lot!

here are the disclosure notes ( did my best to accurately type it from written notes ):
STAKLER II #As00####
WHILE PARKED BEHIND AND STAGGERED to P/C [Other constable's name] Cruiser W/ LTS ACTVD(en6)
BOTH EMG LTS ACTVD, on LEFT SIDE SHOULDER, ASSISTING W/ TRFC STOP.

Observed m/v Blk SUV, Lane 1 of 2 from Behind in mirror,
observed m/v Pass by Still in Lane 1 of 2. ACTVD RADAR in AWAY MODE,
OBS Speed 110 Km/h. only other m/v close to (5) m/v @ time was T/T AHEAD
Approx 50m Lane 2 of 2, Safe for (5) m/v to move into other lane. Sight n/l.
AVTVD Emg LTS, TRFC STOP @nn 5/6 E/B, (m) DRVR ID'D W/ VALID ON Photo D/L,
DRVR R.O coop. Emg LTS initially visible approx 700 meters.
ROAD - Flat Dry, Paved, Straight
W/X - (+) cool, no precip
M/F
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Hello,



I purchased a motorcycle and rode it home with the previous owners plates and on the way home I dropped it and damaged my shifter so I could not push it back. A Police cruiser came by and asked for my licence,insurance and registration.



I have two summons. One that is "Use plate not authorized for vehicle" and another that is "Owner Operate motor vehicle - no insurance"



I am a 22M with my M1 licence (course is next week)

What are my options? Should I consult a lawyer or traffic ticket fighting service?

I realize that I was in the wrong. I would like to keep my driving record clean.
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DecayHeat wrote:
Oct 14th, 2018 9:15 pm
Hello,



I purchased a motorcycle and rode it home with the previous owners plates and on the way home I dropped it and damaged my shifter so I could not push it back. A Police cruiser came by and asked for my licence,insurance and registration.



I have two summons. One that is "Use plate not authorized for vehicle" and another that is "Owner Operate motor vehicle - no insurance"



I am a 22M with my M1 licence (course is next week)

What are my options? Should I consult a lawyer or traffic ticket fighting service?

I realize that I was in the wrong. I would like to keep my driving record clean.
The “keep your driving record clean” ship has sailed. Given the severity of the charges, you may want to talk to a lawyer or paralegal about your options.

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DecayHeat wrote:
Oct 14th, 2018 9:15 pm
Hello,



I purchased a motorcycle and rode it home with the previous owners plates and on the way home I dropped it and damaged my shifter so I could not push it back. A Police cruiser came by and asked for my licence,insurance and registration.



I have two summons. One that is "Use plate not authorized for vehicle" and another that is "Owner Operate motor vehicle - no insurance"



I am a 22M with my M1 licence (course is next week)

What are my options? Should I consult a lawyer or traffic ticket fighting service?

I realize that I was in the wrong. I would like to keep my driving record clean.
At the time did you own another vehicle with valid insurance, if you did inquire with your insurance company if you have coverage in the above situation, where you just purchased the vehicle and intended to add to your policy.
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Accrecon wrote:
Oct 15th, 2018 11:39 am
At the time did you own another vehicle with valid insurance, if you did inquire with your insurance company if you have coverage in the above situation, where you just purchased the vehicle and intended to add to your policy.
I didn't even know that was a thing... If you have an insurance company that offers retroactive coverage on a vehicle, thats a heck of a policy.
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chenj16 wrote:
Oct 16th, 2018 9:57 am
anybody able to comment on ownership validity matter a few posts above regarding

"DRIVE MOTOR VEHICLE, NO CURRENTLY VALIDATED PERMIT" ?
No idea about your actual paperwork, but it will have no effect on the speeding ticket. But you could try to get the permit ticket dropped in exchange for pleading guilty to a speeding charge.

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Feb 28, 2018
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Hello!!

I got three tickets couple of month’s back. First one is a stop sign violation ticket. I am pretty sure I stopped just not long enough maybe for a second and it was all empty around except the hidden police car in that intersection. My court date is due in 2 weeks which already is a second date and is at Eglinton west court. It was due back couple of months back but I changed that and also have requested for the disclosure, I have got the typed disclosure. When I was picking it up they said they will give me the video disclosure too and once it is ready they will let me know. The court office also called me later to ensure that my number is correct. This is more than 11 weeks back and I have not heard back from the prosecutor’s office about the video disclosure. Although they should technically let me know to pick it up in max 8 weeks. Since my court date is due soon any idea what will happen if I go to court now. Or can I go to court and say I have not received the video disclosure.

Also when I got the ticket I was given two other tickets. One for not signing the ownership paper and the other one for failure to attach the renewal stamp on the back of the ownership. The police officer already knew that I renewed the permit as it was attached in the number plate and I failed to attach it in the back of ownership as I was not aware that I will have to do that. When the police officer gave me those too he told me as long as I sign the paper and have stamp on the back during the court date the judge will take off these two charges. Since then I have changed my car and off course my new ownership is signed. However since it is a brand new car I did not get any renewal stamp so nothing to attach. So any idea what will happen when I go to court now for these 2 tickets?

Any help from any expert will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!!!
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VerticalH wrote:
Oct 16th, 2018 10:47 am
Hello!!

I got three tickets couple of month’s back. First one is a stop sign violation ticket. I am pretty sure I stopped just not long enough maybe for a second and it was all empty around except the hidden police car in that intersection. My court date is due in 2 weeks which already is a second date and is at Eglinton west court. It was due back couple of months back but I changed that and also have requested for the disclosure, I have got the typed disclosure. When I was picking it up they said they will give me the video disclosure too and once it is ready they will let me know. The court office also called me later to ensure that my number is correct. This is more than 11 weeks back and I have not heard back from the prosecutor’s office about the video disclosure. Although they should technically let me know to pick it up in max 8 weeks. Since my court date is due soon any idea what will happen if I go to court now. Or can I go to court and say I have not received the video disclosure.

Also when I got the ticket I was given two other tickets. One for not signing the ownership paper and the other one for failure to attach the renewal stamp on the back of the ownership. The police officer already knew that I renewed the permit as it was attached in the number plate and I failed to attach it in the back of ownership as I was not aware that I will have to do that. When the police officer gave me those too he told me as long as I sign the paper and have stamp on the back during the court date the judge will take off these two charges. Since then I have changed my car and off course my new ownership is signed. However since it is a brand new car I did not get any renewal stamp so nothing to attach. So any idea what will happen when I go to court now for these 2 tickets?

Any help from any expert will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!!!
Go in there, and argue for your video evidence and your time being wasted having to show up at court even though the prosecution told you 13 weeks ago that your video evidence would be produced for you. Worst case scenario should be another trial date. Best case, the ticket gets turfed because they can't find the evidence.

The other two tickets, just talk to the prosecutor about what you've done, show that you're doing the right thing now, and hopefully you can get them dropped before it goes before the JP.

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