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Ask me anything about fighting your traffic ticket (Speeding, Parking, etc.)

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CNeufeld wrote:
Mar 19th, 2019 3:01 pm
I think you’re only recourse is dealing with your insurance adjuster first, then your insurance company’s dispute office, and finally, the province’s dispute office. You could talk to a lawyer (and I’m no expert) but filing a claim against them would likely be expensive and since there’s no effective witnesses, it becomes a he said/she said situation. And I’m not sure what compensation you’d recover. Not sure if “increased insurance costs” would fly. But I’m not a lawyer, as I said.

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i will bear that in mind. hopefully my insurance is willing to go up to bat with me. i have had no claims in 8 years.

well, my physio/time spent recovering, the damage to my body (while not permanent) still have to take time to deal with it and work its way back to normal, the sheer amount of stress of having to deal with this and the prospects of a ruined driving record etc. I will talk with a lawyer but the fact that the guy didnt charged means he commits osme shit act and gets away with it because the cop sided with him? both of the vehicles that hit me were in essence driving 80-90km per hr. the road i was travelling is a very busy regional highway that commercial 18 wheelers use.
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cy wrote:
Mar 19th, 2019 2:47 pm
Surprised about the $270.

I am hoping I can get off, it was truly an innocent ticket. If I am really using my phone, I'd just pay it up without wasting anyone's resources, but I did not. With that said, I am also being hoping that my insurance has the first conviction waived if I am convicted. I recall my broker told me something about that before.
But if you read the law, it’s not for using your phone or device. Having it in your hand is prohibited. It might suck, but that’s the law.

You may want to discuss things with a paralegal or lawyer, given the financial implications. Keep in mind that if you fight the ticket and lose, your fine can go from $600 to $1000.

And as far as your “first conviction forgiveness”, I wouldn’t be surprised if distracted driving isn’t covered, in particular because it involves a license suspension. I’m guessing that serious/major tickets invalidate that coverage, and distracted driving seems to meet that criteria. You would have to talk to your insurance broker, or ping the insurance person I mentioned in one of my previous posts today.

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Hello!

I was in an accident in February that I slid on the Ivey road condition and rear ended the car in front of me on the intersection. I was driving within limit and I tried to stop but it’s too icy so my car slowly skidded forward and contacted the car in front of me. There were 2 more cars in front of the rear ended car but they didn’t get affected as the car I rear ended didn’t move at all. The police officer came later and gave me a ticket of “driving in unreasonable speed for road conditions.” Could you please help with my defense points for the trial? Thanks a million!!
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My turn to ask for help.

Here is my scenario:
Last summer, we were coming home from the cottage @ around 9:30pm (it was pitch black). I was following a car that was driving "irratically", doing 70km/h at times, and 90km/h at times. There was another car behind him, so I didn't bother passing them. When we came to a point where there was a passing lane open, I decided to speed up and pass both vehicles in one shot.....after passing them, i came back to the right lane and began to slow down. It was precisely at this moment, a cop flashed his lights and pulled me over. When he approached me, he said he clocked me doing 115km/h while passing them BUT!!!! he also clocked me at 128km/h in an 80 zone some 10 kilometers back!!! I denied it immediately, knowing i had set me cruise control on at a MUCH lower speed! Needless to say, he said, at that speed, he wasn't going to show any discretion and gave me a ticket for 48km/h over the posted speed limit.

Disclosure:
I asked for disclosure via registered mail as suggested, and the reply I got back in email included the hand written copy of the notes, a copy of the ticket again and the user's manual of the radar used. What I didn't get is the typed version of the notes. I can barely make out what he wrote, so they are literally of no use to me.

Question:
My court date is April 9th in Lindsay, what should I do? Should I send another registered mail asking for the typed notes? Should I not bother? Does the radar take a picture of the vehicle when it clocks them speeding? Literally, it was pitch black and there are about a dozen intersections where cars and come in and out of Hwy 48. It literally is 10km from where he alleged me speeding and where he actually saw me speeding while passing them. I was probably down to 105 with my foot off both pedals and waiting for the car to slow down to a reasonable speed. What should I do? I'm nervous!!

Thanks in advance!
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Drove my mother’s second vehicle and was pulled over for expired plates even though the plates had a black OCT19 sticker

My theory was that my mother may have put one of the two stickers on each of the vehicle.

Officer then suggested I get everything fixed up then plead “not guilty” after I get a new sticker.

Does his suggestion mean to fight it or do an early resolution?

What are your thoughts?
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You don't get two plate stickers.

Why did you get a ticket if the plate sticker is valid?

Maybe the plate sticker number doesn't match the corresponding sticker on the ownership. Maybe she never put the corresponding sticker in the ownership. Maybe she put the sticker(s) on the wrong car/ownership?
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Do you actually have current stickers? Could it be a matter of a mix up with the permit stickers?
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Great thread here.
Have a court date for Parking Penalty in Mississauga courthouse @950 Burnhamthorpe. Anyone have first hand experience for getting a reduced fine? Hows the process? Will i need to sit in the court proceedings ?
In short, went to drop a pkg at condo reception and a friendly officer hands me a ticket as I came back - doesn't want to make eye contact and just walks. 5 cars parked behind me speed away one by one ;)
Anyways, I am free on the day of trial and understand my mistake. So any hope for a quick visit and reduction in fine at Mississauga court ?
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aPencil wrote:
Mar 20th, 2019 4:14 pm
Drove my mother’s second vehicle and was pulled over for expired plates even though the plates had a black OCT19 sticker

My theory was that my mother may have put one of the two stickers on each of the vehicle.

Officer then suggested I get everything fixed up then plead “not guilty” after I get a new sticker.

Does his suggestion mean to fight it or do an early resolution?

What are your thoughts?
Regardless of fighting/not fighting the ticket, you need to fix the problem, which is to the proper stickers on the proper plates.

Then personally, I'd probably do the early resolution to demonstrate to the prosecutor that I'd fixed the issue, and ask for the charges to be withdrawn. Early resolution IS still fighting it; it's merely choosing to meet with the prosecutor in advance of the trial date to work it out. Rather than trying to work out a deal on the morning of the trial.

And this belongs in the great big ticket thread... It's not such a special case to deserve it's own thread. IMHO.

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derass wrote:
Mar 20th, 2019 4:27 pm
Maybe the plate sticker number doesn't match the corresponding sticker on the ownership. Maybe she never put the corresponding sticker in the ownership. Maybe she put the sticker(s) on the wrong car/ownership?
This is what I'm kind of thinking. OP mentions it's his mother's 2nd car, so if she has two cars, it's reasonable to assume she owns both cars & she got confused and renewed the plates for the other car but then put the sticker on this one.
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I suppose even if the stickers on the plate and ownership match (albeit being on the wrong vehicle), the sticker number is assigned to the VIN number through the Service Ontario system, which perhaps the office can see.

Makes me wonder though, if the sticker is valid, why was OP even stopped? I doubt the officer ran that 10 digit, 12pt font number from 20 feet back.
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If the OP's mom owns both cars then both cars would need to be renewed at the same time.

Does the other car have a sticker that says OCT19? It should.
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derass wrote:
Mar 20th, 2019 4:51 pm
I suppose even if the stickers on the plate and ownership match (albeit being on the wrong vehicle), the sticker number is assigned to the VIN number through the Service Ontario system, which perhaps the office can see.

Makes me wonder though, if the sticker is valid, why was OP even stopped? I doubt the officer ran that 10 digit, 12pt font number from 20 feet back.
My guess is that mom only renewed one vehicle and put the sticker on the wrong plate. If the cop’s car had a scanner he doesn’t even look at the colour or month anymore - he just waits for a hit to be registered then investigates once alerted. The scanner read the plate and alerted that the plate is expired.
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Coolredrose wrote:
Mar 19th, 2019 7:29 pm
Hello!

I was in an accident in February that I slid on the Ivey road condition and rear ended the car in front of me on the intersection. I was driving within limit and I tried to stop but it’s too icy so my car slowly skidded forward and contacted the car in front of me. There were 2 more cars in front of the rear ended car but they didn’t get affected as the car I rear ended didn’t move at all. The police officer came later and gave me a ticket of “driving in unreasonable speed for road conditions.” Could you please help with my defense points for the trial? Thanks a million!!
You don't give a location or an actual traffic act number... But by definition, you were driving too fast for the conditions, because you hit a car that was stopped (from the sounds of things). The other drivers managed to stop without playing bumper cars, right?

So you can go to court, and try to negotiate a deal, but if the officer is there, you'll likely get a conviction for something. For the most part, insurance doesn't care what your conviction is for, so the only savings you'll get is a reduction in fine amount (if any). So it's up to you whether you want to fight it, or just pay and save your time.

Your other option is to go to the trial and hope the cop doesn't show, and the prosecution withdraws the charge. The officers do get paid to attend, though...

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