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ds2chan wrote:
Jul 9th, 2017 5:53 pm
I just got my court date and it will be in January. I want to request my disclosure. Do I have to go to the courthouse and submit the form? Or is there another way to do that? Thanks.
Request disclosure via fax
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Just got caught speeding on River/Gerrard. Police pulled me over and recorded 57 km/h in a 40 km/h zone.

Ticket is $57.50 and 3 demerit points.

Have insurance under my father.

As it stands now, this is my first HTA ticket (couple of parking tickets meh) and I have been driving since 2010.

What are my next steps? If I go to court to fight this and they reduce it to the 0-15 km/hr over zone, that means 0 demerit points. Do I still take a hit on insurance if I'm in that zone. Any chance of getting this ticket completely removed?

Thanks in advance.
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Jun 20, 2009
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Hi
I got a speeding ticket in Napanee by an OPP. The ticket said I was driving 131km/hr in 100km/hr zone. I'm a first time offender and I'm in need of your advice. I already receive an early resolution date for my case and it will be this coming Thursday July 13. What are my options at this point? What is the best thing to do to avoid affecting my insurance premium?
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Sep 26, 2016
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Might have got caught with a camera at 1am in a community safety zone going 60 in a 50 zone. Will I get a ticket?
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Jun 15, 2017
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Ontario, Canada
zakregent wrote:
Jul 10th, 2017 5:55 pm
Just got caught speeding on River/Gerrard. Police pulled me over and recorded 57 km/h in a 40 km/h zone.

Ticket is $57.50 and 3 demerit points.

Have insurance under my father.

As it stands now, this is my first HTA ticket (couple of parking tickets meh) and I have been driving since 2010.

What are my next steps? If I go to court to fight this and they reduce it to the 0-15 km/hr over zone, that means 0 demerit points. Do I still take a hit on insurance if I'm in that zone. Any chance of getting this ticket completely removed?

Thanks in advance.
If you get it reduced to 15 over, then this is 0 demerits, however it can still affect your insurance the same as a 3 demerit charge as insurance companies do not care about demerit points. Demerits are irrelevent to insurance companies.

The chances of getting ticket dropped completely are probably slim to none, however you need to see disclosure before you can know for sure about if you have a defense or not.

Plead Not Guilty and request a trial with the officer present. Once you get your notice of trial date you can then request disclosure (officers notes). Once you get the notes post them here so we can review them.
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Jun 15, 2017
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macky28 wrote:
Jul 10th, 2017 10:34 pm
Hi
I got a speeding ticket in Napanee by an OPP. The ticket said I was driving 131km/hr in 100km/hr zone. I'm a first time offender and I'm in need of your advice. I already receive an early resolution date for my case and it will be this coming Thursday July 13. What are my options at this point? What is the best thing to do to avoid affecting my insurance premium?
You can not avoid affecting your insurance unless you go to trial and win and get the ticket dropped completely. In Ontario, even a 0 demerit speeding ticket can still affect your insurance as Insurance companies do not care about demerits at all.

You need to see disclosure before you can decide if you have a good defense or not to beat it or not.

The prosecutor MAY offer you some kind of plea deal at early resolution by dropping it to something like 25 to 29 over which is only 3 demerits and a little lower fine. If you do not like the offer they give you, then you say you plan to plead Not Guilty and would like to request a trial with the officer present. Once you get your notice of trial date you can then request disclosure (officers notes). Once you get the notes post them here so we can review them.
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I am not a lawyer and I am not a paralegal and I do not give legal advice.
All statements made are my opinion only.
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ShrekTek wrote:
Jul 11th, 2017 8:59 am
If you get it reduced to 15 over, then this is 0 demerits, however it can still affect your insurance the same as a 3 demerit charge as insurance companies do not care about demerit points. Demerits are irrelevent to insurance companies.

The chances of getting ticket dropped completely are probably slim to none, however you need to see disclosure before you can know for sure about if you have a defense or not.

Plead Not Guilty and request a trial with the officer present. Once you get your notice of trial date you can then request disclosure (officers notes). Once you get the notes post them here so we can review them.
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I will be going to the Court of Justice and choosing the Trial Option. I'll update once I get more info.

A side question I was wondering about: If I do choose the Trial Option, get a court date and the office does not show up; Does my ticket get dropped completely?
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Mar 23, 2017
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Hey guys,

I received a red light camera ticket on June 13th, and am wondering what your advice is on how I should proceed. Based on google imagery of where the sign is located it's only 110 meters from the solid white line indicating the beginning of the intersection. Is the law for Ontario that the red light camera sign needs to be at least 400 meters prior to the camera?

Details:
The first image of my vehicle depicts my speed as 53 km/h in a 60km/h zone, and shows my car AT the line when the light turned red. It says the light was red for 0.4 seconds when my vehicle "approached" the intersection - but in reality my vehicle is already AT the intersection.

The second image then depicts my car a single car length ahead (and into the intersection) and indicates that the light had then been red for 1.4 seconds.

The exact wording is as below:

"as shown in the digitized images set forth in this notice, contrary to subsection 144(18.1) and pursuant to section 207 of the Highway Traffic Act. The photographs taken by the red light camera system show the vehicle approaching the intersection, at which time the signal had displayed red for 000.4 seconds and that vehicle proceeded through the intersection when the light had been red for 001.4 seconds. I believe and certify that the above offence has been committed. Signature of Officer issuing this notice" it then depicts a barely discernible signature.

Any advice and information on the legislation of the red light camera signage would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks to all the individuals who contribute to everyone's questions!
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Oct 10, 2008
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Need advice on a speeding in Construction Zone ticket.

I was driving from Kelowna to Vancouver on the highway. Highway speed limit is 120 km/h. Signs said construction up ahead reduce to 90 km/h, at this point I'm going 100 km/h. Another sign up ahead says 60km/h, and there was a flashing sign that said I'm going too fast "102 km/h".

So I slowed to about 80 km/h, no real construction in sight. When I see the construction up ahead I slowed down to about 65km/h. Then when I see the actual construction, I get stopped by a police officer who said I was going at 102 km/h in a 60 km/h construction zone. He was standing next to a radar tripod but never actually showed me a reading.

Wrote me a $250 ticket.

The court hearing is in Kelowna, but I live in Vancouver.

Is this worth fighting? If I do fight how do I move the court location to Vancouver?

Thanks
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drey2k wrote:
Jul 11th, 2017 5:53 pm
Need advice on a speeding in Construction Zone ticket.

I was driving from Kelowna to Vancouver on the highway. Highway speed limit is 120 km/h. Signs said construction up ahead reduce to 90 km/h, at this point I'm going 100 km/h. Another sign up ahead says 60km/h, and there was a flashing sign that said I'm going too fast "102 km/h".

So I slowed to about 80 km/h, no real construction in sight. When I see the construction up ahead I slowed down to about 65km/h. Then when I see the actual construction, I get stopped by a police officer who said I was going at 102 km/h in a 60 km/h construction zone. He was standing next to a radar tripod but never actually showed me a reading.

Wrote me a $250 ticket.

The court hearing is in Kelowna, but I live in Vancouver.

Is this worth fighting? If I do fight how do I move the court location to Vancouver?

Thanks
You don't get it moved. You think the prosecutor and cop are going to drive to you?

You could hire someone local to fight it. You can always request disclosure and see what that offers first. And pay the ticket any time to avoid the trial. But unless they made an error, it sounds like you were doing what they ticketed you for. Which makes it tougher to fight.

C
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CNeufeld wrote:
Jul 11th, 2017 6:39 pm
You don't get it moved. You think the prosecutor and cop are going to drive to you?

You could hire someone local to fight it. You can always request disclosure and see what that offers first. And pay the ticket any time to avoid the trial. But unless they made an error, it sounds like you were doing what they ticketed you for. Which makes it tougher to fight.

C
Hey, thank you.

In regards to disclosure, can I get it without going to trial? Or do I have to fight the ticket to request disclosure?

I really don't want to spend extra money on this because I'm pretty sure the cop had me on radar and it's going to be hard as hell to fight. He was in the perfect position to catch people in the big speed transition from 120-60km... he is an older cop who knows what he's doing.

Thanks again
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Jul 10, 2017
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Need advice over a driving with a communication device charge. The officer said he noticed me at a red light on my phone and wrote me a ticket for it. He mentioned that I should definitely not pay the ticket and should instead fight it.

After some googling on the matter it seems in most other cases I've read regarding this charge the officer made sure to note what phone the person had for his notes. The officer did no such thing in my case and I'm wondering if he assumed I was on my phone simply because I was looking down at the red light. Would it be possibly to bring this up to get the charge dropped? Since he never made any attempt to prove I was on my phone and I never admitted to him that I was on my phone I don't see how they would have a case, but I've heard these charges are notoriously hard to get dropped as its the officers word vs yours.
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Jul 8, 2017
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I got a parking ticket of 45 $ for parking in Hotel parking lot, which is a private property.
Ticket issued in Mississauga, Port Credit.
I was staying in hotel and did not put up the permit given by Hotel to me on that day.
Hotel authorities have issued waiver letter for me.

Is it worth fighting out or just pay it and forget.
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You can request a trial and disclosure, but then chose to pay the ticket before trial. You're not committed fighting it just because you request a trial.

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zakregent wrote:
Jul 11th, 2017 12:45 pm
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I will be going to the Court of Justice and choosing the Trial Option. I'll update once I get more info.

A side question I was wondering about: If I do choose the Trial Option, get a court date and the office does not show up; Does my ticket get dropped completely?
If the officer does not show up for the trial, then you should ask for the ticket to be withdrawn. Although in Ontario it is rare for officer to not show for court.
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