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Jan 4, 2013
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Okay guys i have talked to couple of paralegal guys one of them told me that he would charge me around 65-85 dollars and he knows people in that particular court ...he would do something that it wouldn't show up on my record that i ever got this ticket...but i have to pay the fine $110 ... is this possible?
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Interestinginterest wrote: Okay guys i have talked to couple of paralegal guys one of them told me that he would charge me around 65-85 dollars and he knows people in that particular court ...he would do something that it wouldn't show up on my record that i ever got this ticket...but i have to pay the fine $110 ... is this possible?
If it was me, I’d probably want more details than “he would do something”.

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Dec 12, 2017
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CNeufeld wrote: That’s only in a civil case. So all you’ll be saving is the ticket cost here.

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In Quebec, what's the process?
Quebec law is unique in Canada because Quebec is the only province in Canada to have a juridical legal system (pertaining to the administration of justice) under which civil matters are regulated by French-heritage civil law. Public law, criminal law and other federal law operate according to Canadian common law.

I presume a parking fine is public law so process similar to Ontario?
Anything I need to request in advance of court date? I presume the parking officer ha to be there?
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qwertyjjj wrote: In Quebec, what's the process?
Quebec law is unique in Canada because Quebec is the only province in Canada to have a juridical legal system (pertaining to the administration of justice) under which civil matters are regulated by French-heritage civil law. Public law, criminal law and other federal law operate according to Canadian common law.

I presume a parking fine is public law so process similar to Ontario?
Anything I need to request in advance of court date? I presume the parking officer ha to be there?
Don't know the process in Quebec. Should be on your ticket.

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Dec 12, 2017
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CNeufeld wrote: Don't know the process in Quebec. Should be on your ticket.

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I meant the process in court. That's not on the ticket,
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Jun 15, 2017
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Interestinginterest wrote: Okay guys i have talked to couple of paralegal guys one of them told me that he would charge me around 65-85 dollars and he knows people in that particular court ...he would do something that it wouldn't show up on my record that i ever got this ticket...but i have to pay the fine $110 ... is this possible?
In Ontario? This does not sound right to me.
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Jun 15, 2017
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qwertyjjj wrote: In Quebec, what's the process?
Quebec law is unique in Canada because Quebec is the only province in Canada to have a juridical legal system (pertaining to the administration of justice) under which civil matters are regulated by French-heritage civil law. Public law, criminal law and other federal law operate according to Canadian common law.

I presume a parking fine is public law so process similar to Ontario?
Anything I need to request in advance of court date? I presume the parking officer ha to be there?
The only thing I know about Quebec is that the officer does NOT need to show up... their written testimony is sufficient. If you want the officer to show up, you have to pay a fee for them to be there.
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ShrekTek wrote: Its your responsibility to make sure it is safe to make a turn. The light was still green when you started making the turn so we have to assume the other driver had a green as well. For insurance purposes, if this is Ontarion, you will be found 100% at fault.

As far as ticket goes, assuming the officers notes as are good and both the officer and other driver show up for trial, you would most likely be found guilty.

Chances of the officer not showing for trial are slim to none, however the chances of the other driver/witness not showing are 50/50. If no witness shows up to testify then the charges will be dropped. So your best bet is to plead not guilty and request a trial with officer present. Once you get your notice of trial, request disclosure (officers notes, witness statements). Then show up on your trial date and tell prosecutor you are ready to proceed to trial. If officer or witness are not there, they will drop it. If they are both there and prosecutor is ready to proceed as well, then you can change your mind anytime and choose to plead guilty instead or continue with the trial.
Thanks for your reply. I pretty much accept I am at fault. It would be nice if I could get out of the ticket though... Demerits are the biggest issue I do not want insurance to go up.... If I agree for fine to stay same but demerits to go down does that affect insurance
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tommi wrote: Thank you for your answers. I'll call the procecutors office about the request and the Provincial Offences office to ask the status of my ticket. I have to look up the phone number of the Provincial Offences that have this information.
Summary: I got the speeding ticket in July 2017. I sent in 2 requests for disclosure in Sep and Oct. I called in Dec 2017. I was told the disclosure not available. I called again today Feb 15. I was told the officer didn't reply to both requests. I was asked to send in another request if I like or wait until trial date to request to the officer. Which one is a likely winning option: another request for waiting for the trial? Thank you.
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DavidA511606 wrote: Thanks for your reply. I pretty much accept I am at fault. It would be nice if I could get out of the ticket though... Demerits are the biggest issue I do not want insurance to go up.... If I agree for fine to stay same but demerits to go down does that affect insurance
It's been repeated through this thread (and the corresponding sticky "Demerit Points do not affect Insurance!!" (demerit-points-do-not-affect-insurance-791274/) that (wait for it) demerits do not affect insurance. Convictions do. And to go along with that, you get the demerits for whatever infraction you're found (or plead) guilty of. That's not decided by the JP or prosecutor.

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tommi wrote: Summary: I got the speeding ticket in July 2017. I sent in 2 requests for disclosure in Sep and Oct. I called in Dec 2017. I was told the disclosure not available. I called again today Feb 15. I was told the officer didn't reply to both requests. I was asked to send in another request if I like or wait until trial date to request to the officer. Which one is a likely winning option: another request for waiting for the trial? Thank you.
If you wait for trial, at that point you'll have two options. Review the notes there and plead guilty or fight it then, or request another trial date because you need time to prepare.

If I was you, I'd keep sending in requests till the trial date. Maybe if you send in enough requests, the judge will get pissed off at the officer for screwing around and throw the case out. Or else you'll finally get your disclosure.

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CNeufeld wrote: It's been repeated through this thread (and the corresponding sticky "Demerit Points do not affect Insurance!!" (demerit-points-do-not-affect-insurance-791274/) that (wait for it) demerits do not affect insurance. Convictions do. And to go along with that, you get the demerits for whatever infraction you're found (or plead) guilty of. That's not decided by the JP or prosecutor.

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Thanks for the reply. I see you live in Edmonton as well. Does the Original Post still pretty much apply for us in Edmonton (steps to take ect)?
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Jun 15, 2017
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DavidA511606 wrote: Thanks for your reply. I pretty much accept I am at fault. It would be nice if I could get out of the ticket though... Demerits are the biggest issue I do not want insurance to go up.... If I agree for fine to stay same but demerits to go down does that affect insurance
The prosecutor and JP can NOT change demerits associated with a charge... they cannot be lowered or changed. If you plead guilty or are found guilty, you may be able to get JP to agree to lower fine but demerits can not be changed at all.

Insurance does not care about demerits anyways. Even a 0 demerit charge can cause your insurance to go up.
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Jun 15, 2017
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Ontario, Canada
tommi wrote: Summary: I got the speeding ticket in July 2017. I sent in 2 requests for disclosure in Sep and Oct. I called in Dec 2017. I was told the disclosure not available. I called again today Feb 15. I was told the officer didn't reply to both requests. I was asked to send in another request if I like or wait until trial date to request to the officer. Which one is a likely winning option: another request for waiting for the trial? Thank you.
You have already sent 2 request and have called to check on disclosure. Keep notes on the dates you sent requests and dates you called. You can send another request if you want, but not that necessary.

At trial if the officer shows up, you can ask for it to be dropped because it was not provided, but JP will order prosecutor/officer to get it to you and set a new date. If you get to a second trial date, then you might get it dropped for lack of disclosure but not at first trial date.
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