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If the ceiling in my shower is 7 ft, is that too low to install recessed lighting?
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davidwsw wrote:
Mar 8th, 2017 1:53 pm
If the ceiling in my shower is 7 ft, is that too low to install recessed lighting?
No but the pot light must be WET rated.
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Question for the experts. I have a couple of Leviton single pole Decora switches which I was going to give to my neighbor. I must of bought them about 8-10 years ago but never actually used them or notice the lack of grounding screw.

Are these OK to use or are they not recommended due to the whole not having a grounding screw issue.
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bacalhau4me wrote:
Mar 11th, 2017 5:43 pm
Question for the experts. I have a couple of Leviton single pole Decora switches which I was going to give to my neighbor. I must of bought them about 8-10 years ago but never actually used them or notice the lack of grounding screw.

Are these OK to use or are they not recommended due to the whole not having a grounding screw issue.
Only switches I ever ground are dimmers. I've never used the ground screw on a regular switch and have never once had any inspector question it.
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ahumanbeing wrote:
Mar 11th, 2017 6:04 pm
Only switches I ever ground are dimmers. I've never used the ground screw on a regular switch and have never once had any inspector question it.
I have also never seen a switch grounded. Myself or others.
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Drew_W wrote:
Mar 12th, 2017 8:57 am
I have also never seen a switch grounded. Myself or others.
I did once go to do work at a home owners place, and at one point or another, they had replaced all the devices and used the ground screw on every one of them. First time I'd ever seen it. Looked like a lot more work.
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Thanks for your answers. I just replaced a faulty receptacle and a couple of dimmers recently so I when I didn't see the ground screw on these switches I started to wonder.
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Mar 8th, 2017 11:41 am
Divx, the thought occurred to me, but given the relative ease in running new wire, I'm not inclined to do that yet. Since I don't see a PHEV in my near future. I am waiting to hear back from the local utility company about leasing some solar equipment, though. Which may mean significant panel changes, as well as cost benefits for a PHEV.

Theburner, if I go conduit, I'll probably just drop conduit from the ceiling to the surface box. So no bends. I can run normal unprotected wire in the attic, which will cut costs and time. Given that it's a shop area, I do like the extra protection of conduit.

Thanks for the input, all!

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Builder didn't install dedicated GFCI outlets in my home but instead "linked" regular outlets to one GFCI outlet.

Example. My master ensuite and main bathroom on upper level are connected to the GFCI in my powder room. If the circuit trips in my master, I have to reset it in my powder room.

What's the purpose of this?
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Bellotts wrote:
Mar 12th, 2017 2:58 pm
Builder didn't install dedicated GFCI outlets in my home but instead "linked" regular outlets to one GFCI outlet.

Example. My master ensuite and main bathroom on upper level are connected to the GFCI in my powder room. If the circuit trips in my master, I have to reset it in my powder room.

What's the purpose of this?
I've seen it done for two reasons. One, it saves material meaning only 1 gfci and only one feed. Two, in a small home where the first one applies, and if one trips it's not that far. I've also seen it where if the basement trips, you need to run up to the top floor to reset it. It's not wrong, but it is stupid in that case.

If it's annoying you could swap the regular receptacles with gfci and make sure all wires connect to the line side of it. That way the gfci itself will trip, but won't trip anything else, eliminating the need to run to another bathroom to reset
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ahumanbeing wrote:
Mar 12th, 2017 3:15 pm
I've seen it done for two reasons. One, it saves material meaning only 1 gfci and only one feed. Two, in a small home where the first one applies, and if one trips it's not that far. I've also seen it where if the basement trips, you need to run up to the top floor to reset it. It's not wrong, but it is stupid in that case.

If it's annoying you could swap the regular receptacles with gfci and make sure all wires connect to the line side of it. That way the gfci itself will trip, but won't trip anything else, eliminating the need to run to another bathroom to reset
Right on. Thanks for the clarification.

It's super annoying you're right and seems like a shortcut. I don't know anything about electrical so I'll probably leave it alone for my own sake lol.
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Bellotts wrote:
Mar 12th, 2017 4:36 pm
Right on. Thanks for the clarification.

It's super annoying you're right and seems like a shortcut. I don't know anything about electrical so I'll probably leave it alone for my own sake lol.
Did you buy my old townhouse? lol. I had the same exact same "feature". The first time my wife tripped the master bathroom, took me while to figure out that I had to reset the power room. I even took out the receptacle and swapped it with another one to verify that it was working.
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Bellotts wrote:
Mar 12th, 2017 2:58 pm
Builder didn't install dedicated GFCI outlets in my home but instead "linked" regular outlets to one GFCI outlet.

Example. My master ensuite and main bathroom on upper level are connected to the GFCI in my powder room. If the circuit trips in my master, I have to reset it in my powder room.

What's the purpose of this?
I think my bigger concern might be why the GFCI circuit is breaking often enough for this to be an issue.

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CNeufeld wrote:
Mar 12th, 2017 5:52 pm
I think my bigger concern might be why the GFCI circuit is breaking often enough for this to be an issue.

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Hasn't happened yet. Hopefully it doesn't.
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bacalhau4me wrote:
Mar 12th, 2017 5:46 pm
Did you buy my old townhouse? lol. I had the same exact same "feature". The first time my wife tripped the master bathroom, took me while to figure out that I had to reset the power room. I even took out the receptacle and swapped it with another one to verify that it was working.
Nope a new build!

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