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CNeufeld wrote:
Apr 12th, 2017 5:34 pm
Can you guys in ON pull your own permit? It does sound like a straightforward job. I pulled my permit for my reno's here in Alberta... It's not rocket science.

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Homeowners can pull their own permit in Ontario but they have to do the work themselves.
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A few questions:

- Does a bathroom outlet need to be on it's own circuit? My bathroom receptacle runs off my master bedroom circuit/breaker. My other bathroom has a GFCI that's powered from the light.

- Does a small 4x4 front porch/entrance room need a receptacle?

- Can I put a receptacle in a closet? I have a router that I'd like to bury away.

- I need to rewire two bedrooms. Is it advisable to have bedrooms on their own AFCI breaker (x3 receptacles each) or is this totally overkill?
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RCGA wrote:
Apr 12th, 2017 7:34 pm
A few questions:

- Does a bathroom outlet need to be on it's own circuit? My bathroom receptacle runs off my master bedroom circuit/breaker. My other bathroom has a GFCI that's powered from the light.

- Does a small 4x4 front porch/entrance room need a receptacle?

- Can I put a receptacle in a closet? I have a router that I'd like to bury away.

- I need to rewire two bedrooms. Is it advisable to have bedrooms on their own AFCI breaker (x3 receptacles each) or is this totally overkill?
Pick up this book...
https://psknight.com/residential

I got mine at HD.

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RCGA wrote:
Apr 12th, 2017 7:43 pm
I won't be doing the work. I just want to make sure I'm asking/requesting the right things from the electrician.
You should still read the book, then you will understand the right things to ask the electrician and better understand the answers, the ability to answer some of your questions on your own and help you plan what is possible by having background knowledge.
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Supperfly wrote:
Apr 12th, 2017 10:18 am
Can all this be wired on 1 circuit?

Want to wire a bathroom: So 1 GFCI outlet with two plugs, one vanity box with two lights, 2 potlights and exhaust fan? Is that allowed?

Thanks for any help you may have.
Sure you can. Do you want to? If you trip the circuit with a hair dryer or whatever do you want to be left in the dark?
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X24Secret wrote:
Apr 12th, 2017 5:13 pm
Hello

Can someone tell me what would be reasonable cost in GTA for installing a 15 amp plug in the island cabinet? My basement is unfinished and the kitchen is right above the 200A electrical panel in the basement.

I haven't hired an electrician in such a long time so I want to make sure I don't get taken for a ride.

Thank you
The island is a kitchen workspace and needs a 20A circuit/plug.
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X24Secret wrote:
Apr 12th, 2017 5:39 pm
Thank you, that's precisely what I don't want to happen otherwise I could even probably do it myself.

So what should I expect at reasonable cost with inspection? What's the time frame for the inspection?

Thank you for the help.
$400-500? Inspection timeframe is about 48hrs.
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RCGA wrote:
Apr 12th, 2017 7:34 pm
A few questions:

- Does a bathroom outlet need to be on it's own circuit? My bathroom receptacle runs off my master bedroom circuit/breaker. My other bathroom has a GFCI that's powered from the light.

- Does a small 4x4 front porch/entrance room need a receptacle?

- Can I put a receptacle in a closet? I have a router that I'd like to bury away.

- I need to rewire two bedrooms. Is it advisable to have bedrooms on their own AFCI breaker (x3 receptacles each) or is this totally overkill?
No. But it should be.

Yes.

Yes, if it has a dedicated purpose.

Separate as much as possible especially between rooms. Because why not?
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Drew_W wrote:
Apr 14th, 2017 9:17 pm
The island is a kitchen workspace and needs a 20A circuit/plug.
15amp split is acceptable by code. It does not need to be 20 amp. It also depends on the size of the island (i.e. just because it's a kitchen workspace it does not necessitate the need for a plug - that being said - an island smaller than 600mmx300mm would seem oddly small!).

26-712 (2015CEC)
(IV) at least one receptacle (5-15R split or 5-20R) installed at each permanently fixed island counter space
with a continuous long dimension of 600 mm or greater and a short dimension of 300 mm or
greater;
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Getting ready to pull a permit for my basement build.
I know most don't mix lighting and receptacles on the same circuit, but I plan on it for simplicity sake. Doing so, am I limited to 12 devices per circuit? I've got 10 potlights (stamped max 50W on housing), but want to add 4 receptacles. These receptacles are general purpose, pretty much to keep within the ESA rule for outlet spacing.

Would having 14 devices on this circuit break code?
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sniggity wrote:
Apr 17th, 2017 11:23 am
Getting ready to pull a permit for my basement build.
I know most don't mix lighting and receptacles on the same circuit, but I plan on it for simplicity sake. Doing so, am I limited to 12 devices per circuit? I've got 10 potlights (stamped max 50W on housing), but want to add 4 receptacles. These receptacles are general purpose, pretty much to keep within the ESA rule for outlet spacing.

Would having 14 devices on this circuit break code?
Yes is does break code. You also need to afci the circuit and install smoke alarm/strobe
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Thanks Dirty.
Afci breakers im aware.
Arent strobe smoke detectors only for bed rooms?
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sniggity wrote:
Apr 17th, 2017 12:19 pm
Arent strobe smoke detectors only for bed rooms?
Nope
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BouncyBall wrote:
Apr 17th, 2017 10:07 am
15amp split is acceptable by code. It does not need to be 20 amp. It also depends on the size of the island (i.e. just because it's a kitchen workspace it does not necessitate the need for a plug - that being said - an island smaller than 600mmx300mm would seem oddly small!).

26-712 (2015CEC)
(IV) at least one receptacle (5-15R split or 5-20R) installed at each permanently fixed island counter space
with a continuous long dimension of 600 mm or greater and a short dimension of 300 mm or
greater;
Nobody does 15 splits anymore, and I assumed the island was large enough to necessitate the receptacle by code. :)

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