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Have a carrier 58msa080 not working.

Opened front panel. LED light flashes 3 times, than pauses lit and then repeates the sequence.

House temp 17.5C, set Thermostat to 22C. Nothing happens.

Turned on and off thermostat. Nothing happens.

Checked fuse box, nothing blown.

Don't smell leaking gas.

Gas Water heater working fine.

Never worked on a furnace so need help.
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Scriptmonkey wrote:
Dec 8th, 2018 8:05 pm
Have a carrier 58msa080 not working.

Opened front panel. LED light flashes 3 times, than pauses lit and then repeates the sequence.

House temp 17.5C, set Thermostat to 22C. Nothing happens.

Turned on and off thermostat. Nothing happens.

Checked fuse box, nothing blown.

Don't smell leaking gas.

Gas Water heater working fine.

Never worked on a furnace so need help.
This looks like the same builder installed furnace I had for 15 years and just replaced. I had issues with mine the past 4 years and they are known to have a manufacturer defect with the heat exchanger.

Have you tried turning off the power to the furnace and waiting about 30 minutes and then restarting it? There should be a power switch mounted near your furnace or turn off the circuit breaker if you can’t find the switch. Also, when was the last time you changed the filter? Is the filter clean?
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dpw198 wrote:
Dec 8th, 2018 9:11 pm
This looks like the same builder installed furnace I had for 15 years and just replaced. I had issues with mine the past 4 years and they are known to have a manufacturer defect with the heat exchanger.

Have you tried turning off the power to the furnace and waiting about 30 minutes and then restarting it? There should be a power switch mounted near your furnace or turn off the circuit breaker if you can’t find the switch. Also, when was the last time you changed the filter? Is the filter clean?
There's a light switch that turns it off. I'll give that a go.

Where is filter located? I funny think it has ever been cleaned.
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Scriptmonkey wrote:
Dec 8th, 2018 9:18 pm
There's a light switch that turns it off. I'll give that a go.

Where is filter located? I funny think it has ever been cleaned.
Looks like you have an electronic filter located to the left of your furnace. You should be able to pull on the door and open it to check the mesh filter.

Take a look at this -
Around the 3:40 mark shows you where the filters fit.
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dpw198 wrote:
Dec 8th, 2018 9:24 pm
Looks like you have an electronic filter located to the left of your furnace. You should be able to pull on the door and open it to check the mesh filter.

Take a look at this -
Around the 3:40 mark shows you where the filters fit.
We switched to media filters, so it's not on anymore.
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Scriptmonkey wrote:
Dec 8th, 2018 8:05 pm
Have a carrier 58msa080 not working.

Opened front panel. LED light flashes 3 times, than pauses lit and then repeates the sequence.

House temp 17.5C, set Thermostat to 22C. Nothing happens.

Turned on and off thermostat. Nothing happens.

Checked fuse box, nothing blown.

Don't smell leaking gas.

Gas Water heater working fine.

Never worked on a furnace so need help.
Codes are two digits.
Short flashes then long flashes indicate code.
Possibly getting a 33?
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dpw198 wrote:
Dec 8th, 2018 9:24 pm
Looks like you have an electronic filter located to the left of your furnace. You should be able to pull on the door and open it to check the mesh filter.

Take a look at this -
Around the 3:40 mark shows you where the filters fit.
1chinaman wrote:
Dec 8th, 2018 10:02 pm
Codes are two digits.
Short flashes then long flashes indicate code.
Possibly getting a 33?
Looks like 31

3 flashes then 1 lit pause, then repeat.
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Changed air filter.
Flick the switch and we get a humming sound. No heat or fan.
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Scriptmonkey wrote:
Dec 8th, 2018 10:08 pm
Looks like 31

3 flashes then 1 lit pause, then repeat.
That square thing in center of furnace looking at it is your inducer housing with motor sticking out. Try turning the outer most part(plastic end) if that doesn’t turn and motor is hot. Your insider is seized.
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1chinaman wrote:
Dec 8th, 2018 10:49 pm
That square thing in center of furnace looking at it is your inducer housing with motor sticking out. Try turning the outer most part(plastic end) if that doesn’t turn and motor is hot. Your insider is seized.
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1chinaman wrote:
Dec 8th, 2018 11:11 pm
Yes that^^
And?
Turns when I spin it by hand and it's hot
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Scriptmonkey wrote:
Dec 8th, 2018 11:14 pm
Turns when I spin it by hand and it's hot
Turns freely?
If so, and not coming on normally and hot
Likely bad motor, small chance its bad supply voltage or bad capacitor and not starting
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1chinaman wrote:
Dec 8th, 2018 11:26 pm
Turns freely?
If so, and not coming on normally and hot
Likely bad motor, small chance its bad supply voltage or bad capacitor and not starting
Turn freely like spin after I turn it? Than no.

I'll be making calls for someone to fix it in the morning. Sleeping bags and blankets, and hats will have to do tonight.

Thanks for all your help!
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Yes, normal should turn freely by hand.
Wish you all the best
Those Inducer motors aint cheap fyi

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