Thread: Atlas WorldMap Claims India & Pakistan as "Caucasian" Countries
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Sep 17th, 2007 09:58 PM
#1
Atlas WorldMap Claims India & Pakistan as "Caucasian" Countries
I saw this demographic world map the other time and it highlighted in green the caucasian areas of the world, shockingly India and Pakistan were highlighted in green and defined as "caucasian". Wtf?
I did more research elsewhere and found this:
[i]"The caucasian (white) phenotype group migrated sometime in 6,000 BC from the north caucasus to the west (europe) and to the east, to what is now India and Pakistan."[/i]
In essence it said that the phenotype of east indians is genetically exactly like those of any European country's, like the Germans or the Italians.
Hmmmm, so to be "caucasian" you don't have to be white.
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Sep 17th, 2007 10:00 PM
#2
Nope.....
Even hard core nazi kkk aryans say indians are 'caucasian' but most of them still degrade them in some way or form.
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Sep 17th, 2007 10:11 PM
#3
What's the problem, they are caucasian countries.
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Sep 17th, 2007 10:35 PM
#4
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I' beginning to believe this, take a punjabi or pakistani girl and ignore the fact she's brown, imagine her light-colored and blonde-haired. You are looking at a nordic female. She has thin lips, thin nose, is oval-faced & has straight "caucasian" hair. Punjabi/Pakistani girls look even more nordic than girls from some european countries.
[img]http://www.intmodel.com/2006mbuce/pop/pakistan_a.jpg[/img]
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Sep 17th, 2007 11:10 PM
#5
:arrowu:
MAN she is HOTTTTT :lol:
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Sep 17th, 2007 11:16 PM
#6
No surprise to me because Caucasian is not limited to white. Even Pakistani knows that themselves as a Pakistani proudly said he is a Caucasian. That was 10 years ago. He was dark brown.
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Sep 18th, 2007 12:17 AM
#7
[QUOTE=omagedon;5636877]:arrowu:
MAN she is HOTTTTT :lol:[/QUOTE]
I have seen east asian girls as hot as that one in Toronto malls and flea markets.
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Sep 18th, 2007 03:35 AM
#8
Depends on which part of India, the northern areas have more people with the genetic caucasian link.
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Sep 18th, 2007 11:16 AM
#9
A lot of people don't seem to know this, but yes, Indian people (the northern ones anyway... which are the majority of the population) are caucasian. They just look a little different because they dwell in warmer climates, and their skin/hair has adjusted over time to the extra sunlight.
Otherwise they are biologically identical to white-skinned caucasians.
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Sep 18th, 2007 12:24 PM
#10
Why the alarm? I guess it's a bit of ignorance coupled with arrogance. Its not about claiming they are caucasian. They[U] are[/U] caucasian.
Race is organized as such: Mongoloids on one extreme. Negroids on another extreme. Caucasoids in the middle.
A girl from the Kalash tribe, Northern Pakistan:
[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7636/kalashza0.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Last edited by hskhan; Sep 18th, 2007 at 12:38 PM.
Reason: Added picture.
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Sep 18th, 2007 12:43 PM
#11
[QUOTE=hskhan;5638698]Why the alarm? I guess it's a bit of ignorance coupled with arrogance. Its not about claiming they are caucasian. They[U] are[/U] caucasian.
Race is organized as such: Mongoloids on one extreme. Negroids on another extreme. Caucasoids in the middle.
A girl from the Kalash tribe, Northern Pakistan:
[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7636/kalashza0.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE]
+1. Its not exactly a secret that India and Pakistan are also considered Caucasoid countries.
The race theory itself has many holes in it and is debatable. Also, for all intents and purposes, western countries when talking about caucasians do not include or mean to include Pakistanis or North-Indians.
This was very evident in the famous United States v/s Bhagat Singh Thind case.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Bhagat_Singh_Thind[/url]
[quote]United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind, 261 U.S. 204 (1923), was a case in which the United States Supreme Court decided that Bhagat Singh Thind, who was a high caste Punjabi Aryan, settled in Oregon, could not be a naturalized citizen of the United States, despite the fact that some anthropologists had defined Aryans as part of the Caucasian race. The ruling followed a decision in Takao Ozawa v. United States, where the same court had ruled that a light-skinned native of Japan could not be counted as "white", because "white" meant "Caucasian". In Bhagat Singh Thind, the court seemed to contradict itself, ruling that Thind was not a "white person" as used in "common speech, to be interpreted in accordance with the understanding of the common man." Using the "understanding of the common man" argument, it was therefore decided that Congress never intended for Indians to be able to naturalize.[/quote]
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Sep 18th, 2007 12:54 PM
#12
I am Pakistani and you couldn't even tell my Mom is 'brown' nor my girl.
Features are similar to what you expect from 'Caucasian' countries. Hell, some of my cousins got blue eyes as well.
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Sep 18th, 2007 02:01 PM
#13
Race is a social construct. One that people are far too obsessed with for their own good. :)
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Sep 18th, 2007 05:27 PM
#14
[QUOTE=hskhan;5638698]Race is organized as such: Mongoloids on one extreme. Negroids on another extreme. Caucasoids in the middle.
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Excuse me? Why should caucasians be "in the middle" and the others on the "extremes"? Are you implying that caucasians are the human "norm", the universal standard? Maybe it's blacks the "norm" and they turned light-skinned when they migrated to Europe and Asia. Let's remember that human life originated in central africa. Let's not be centristic here.
Indians/Punjabis/Pakistanis are caucasians, they came from the same hablo-type DNA branch as Germans and Brits. A Pakistani/Indian is more closely related to Brits than the Vasques, an ethnic group living in France & Spain.
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Sep 18th, 2007 06:35 PM
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[QUOTE=Kommander_KornFlakes;5640356]Excuse me? Why should caucasians be "in the middle" and the others on the "extremes"? Are you implying that caucasians are the human "norm" [/QUOTE]
Yes? Confused?
Its called a gradient. It has nothing to do with being normal. Back in the day, all you had was Africa in the west. Central Asia in the middle. And the Orient in the east. It's all history. It's outdated. And it means jack **** today.
If you want to try mapping the genetics of Pakistanis and Indians today, only 1% will be considered Caucasoid. The rest are a mix up of everything else. Hence the gradient.
Last edited by hskhan; Sep 18th, 2007 at 06:39 PM.
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