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Oct 17th, 2017 1:56 pm

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booblehead: Deal Expert; Jul 30, 2007; 20758 posts; 5599 upvotes; Toronto

Oct 17th, 2017 1:56 pm

Do you really need HUD ? Just trying to save you a few bucks. Instead of this, you can use the $ towards winter tires in which you can sell them later and still recover some $

#2 .. No point. Just pay as you go

#3 .. it is kind of a lease takeover selling point, if you have it .. but not critical.

#4 .. if you have no intention to complete the 4 yrs lease, then there is no point to pay all the fees up front (ie. due on delivery) such that when you roll all the fees into the monthly lease, you are paying those fees as you go ... meaning, the eventual owner will be paying the leftover portion of those fees when he/she takes over. However, do note that for your lease takeover offer, you may have to give a fair amount of incentive to attract potential interested party.

Oct 17th, 2017 2:00 pm

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vannav: Newbie; Mar 28, 2017; 14 posts; 4 upvotes; Vancouver

Oct 17th, 2017 2:00 pm

@bobblehead

Sorry when I said Lease takeover, I mean giving it back to Audi before lease end and getting into a new lease (newer model or potentially different car).

I don't intend to give the lease to another customer on a website like leasebusters etc.

HUD- no I don't need but the instock model has it, there isn't much inventory around here. I would have to wait months to get exactly what I want, so I am settling for some extra features.

Oct 17th, 2017 2:05 pm

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booblehead: Deal Expert; Jul 30, 2007; 20758 posts; 5599 upvotes; Toronto

Oct 17th, 2017 2:05 pm

Oh! Are you sure the dealer will work with you on this early turn in ? I have heard dealer may work with you about 3 months prior to your lease end ... 2.5 yrs ... that's a long, long way and you are hitting the steepest depreciation curve for any vehicles. Dealer will evaluate what the book value of the car vs the amount paid on your lease to date ... if the gap is huge, then you can expect to put some significant $ into the next car and/or little to no discount.

Alternatively, you should compare to lease the car for 24 months and see if they offer 12,000km per year allowance. In this way, you are off the hook, knowing all the costs involved when you signed.

Oct 17th, 2017 2:17 pm

#3514

vannav: Newbie; Mar 28, 2017; 14 posts; 4 upvotes; Vancouver

Oct 17th, 2017 2:17 pm

I will definitely look at the 2 year option. When comparing the 3 year to the 4 year- the 3 year was about 40-50 dollars more a month even though the 4 year has a 1% higher interest. I assume this has to do with the residual and depreciation.

Hard to predict what the dealer will actually do on the early turn in. They have said to me that it is more likely than not that they will call me in 2-3 years to put me into a new lease. If worst comes to worst, I am okay taking the Q5 for the full 4 years.

Oct 17th, 2017 2:26 pm

#3515

booblehead: Deal Expert; Jul 30, 2007; 20758 posts; 5599 upvotes; Toronto

Oct 17th, 2017 2:26 pm

yup. residual and interest rate are the factor.

I think 36 months would be an ideal lease term. Right now, there is absolutely no factory incentive to get into a 18 Q5. I guess you will have to duke it out on the dealer side discount, if you get like 5% off, you would be getting a decent deal, as long those bogus and inflated dealer admin fee is also negotiated as well.

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Oct 17th, 2017 2:30 pm

#3516

vannav: Newbie; Mar 28, 2017; 14 posts; 4 upvotes; Vancouver

Oct 17th, 2017 2:30 pm

@bobblehead thanks for your input.

I will await the Audi sales people in the group to respond on my first question about the discount.

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Oct 17th, 2017 2:40 pm

#3517

booblehead: Deal Expert; Jul 30, 2007; 20758 posts; 5599 upvotes; Toronto

Oct 17th, 2017 2:40 pm

In your example, MSRP $59,490

$0 down
36 months
3.9% interest
assumed 4.5% discount
assumed $2900 in fees (negotiated to)
16,000km per year
64% residual

Projected monthly - $760 + taxes
Due on delivery - first + security (if required) + license + PPSA

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Oct 17th, 2017 3:50 pm

#3518

afretes: Deal Addict; May 22, 2009; 4090 posts; 486 upvotes; Caledon

Oct 17th, 2017 3:50 pm

As far as discounts, if they have a vehicle in stock they will want more money for it. The reasoning behind it is "how much is not waiting worth to you?". If you order a car, at least in the GTA, you should 3 or even 4% off, an in stock car maybe 2% off. Not sure about Vancouver though.

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Oct 17th, 2017 4:16 pm

#3519

vannav: Newbie; Mar 28, 2017; 14 posts; 4 upvotes; Vancouver

Oct 17th, 2017 4:16 pm

@afretes Thanks I will aim for that type of discount.

As an Audi rep, do you have any comment of pulling customers out of leases early to get them into a new car. How often does it happen? If so, at what point of the contract?

Thanks!

Oct 17th, 2017 6:17 pm

#3520

wasabi1: Member; Sep 9, 2005; 269 posts; 16 upvotes

Oct 17th, 2017 6:17 pm

I’m looking at a 2017 q7 technik demo with 1000km on it. Driver assistance plus, hitch, audio connect. $78670. They adding all the extras freight pdi and all that stuff to $81555. Should I pay for pdi since it’s a demo? How do I negotiate this deal?

Oct 17th, 2017 6:26 pm

#3521

booblehead: Deal Expert; Jul 30, 2007; 20758 posts; 5599 upvotes; Toronto

Oct 17th, 2017 6:26 pm

I say just submit a one number offer. I think $74,000 - $74,500 + taxes would be very fair. After all, it is a 1 model yr old car.

If you buy new, you would take the msrp - say 6% and add $2800 in fees = $76,800. Then for being a demo, I suggest to deduct $2,500 , thus $74,300 would be a target to shoot for

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Oct 17th, 2017 6:56 pm

#3522

wasabi1: Member; Sep 9, 2005; 269 posts; 16 upvotes

Oct 17th, 2017 6:56 pm

So far without coming into the dealer they said they take 79 plus taxes.

Oct 17th, 2017 6:59 pm

#3523

booblehead: Deal Expert; Jul 30, 2007; 20758 posts; 5599 upvotes; Toronto

Oct 17th, 2017 6:59 pm

buy new then. No point to pay $5k more for a used. Dealer can keep the car as their trophy

for new 18, take configured msrp - 3.5 - 4% dealer side discount + $2800 fees = negotiated price + taxes

Oct 17th, 2017 7:10 pm

#3524

wasabi1: Member; Sep 9, 2005; 269 posts; 16 upvotes

Oct 17th, 2017 7:10 pm

Ok. Thank you.

Oct 17th, 2017 9:28 pm

#3525

afretes: Deal Addict; May 22, 2009; 4090 posts; 486 upvotes; Caledon

Oct 17th, 2017 9:28 pm

vannav wrote: ↑
Oct 17th, 2017 4:16 pm
@afretes Thanks I will aim for that type of discount.

As an Audi rep, do you have any comment of pulling customers out of leases early to get them into a new car. How often does it happen? If so, at what point of the contract?

Thanks!

Yes, I do it all the time. I keep track of my clients, and I get notified when they're in for service. We record the kms on the car every time they're in, that helps me determine if they'll exceed their km allowance. I also calculate more or less when they may need any major service; tires, brakes, etc. I can then recommend terminating the lease and getting into a new car, not always at no cost, but it's a case of pay now or pay later.

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