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Auto-body shops open on weekends?

Brother drove over a nail and now we got a flat in the family car. Needa pull the nail and fill the hole.

Are there any auto-body shops open today?

edit: Any near the scarborough/markham area? Looking for one near Kennedy and Steeles
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Last time I got a nail in my tire...I took it to the body shop and some guy told me that your tires die if you got nail in them...and he told me to go somewhere else and have my tire change....don't know how true it is though
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xchodax wrote:
Jul 6th, 2008 10:31 am
Brother drove over a nail and now we got a flat in the family car. Needa pull the nail and fill the hole.

Are there any auto-body shops open today?
molala wrote:
Jul 6th, 2008 11:09 am
Last time I got a nail in my tire...I took it to the body shop and some guy told me that your tires die if you got nail in them...and he told me to go somewhere else and have my tire change....don't know how true it is though
I read the OP and said out loud "WTF?!"..
I then read 'molala''s reply and said "WTF?!

Seriously people, "body shop" tells you something... they specialize in collision repair, frame(ie: body) repair and reconstruction, painting/repainting body panels, etc. A nail in a tire? If any were open, they'd probably just laugh in your face while they tell you to go elsewhere. Or else have a good laugh as soon as you're outside listening range!!

What you need is a general mechanic, or a tire/wheel shop. Open on Sunday? Gee.... let's see.. Canadian TIRE, perhaps? or Costco/Walmart, that type of place, as your typical local mechanic's garage won't be open on a Sunday (or Saturday). Ditto for auto dealer's service centres on Sundays.

As for "some guy told me that your tires die if you got a nail in them" that's an equally moronic statement .. for 3 reasons:
-1) tires don't/can't "die"; they can however deflate and/or burst; and tread can wear prematurely due to under-inflation.
-2) a nail that goes through the tread portion of the tire and that is well-embedded does not necessarily create a leak; you may drive around for months not even knowing you have a puncture; however if found, it should be removed and plugged/patched because the potential for a sudden unexpected deflation exists.
-3) if the nail is causing air to leak, then it should be *obvious* that if the condition is not addressed, in the not too distant future, the tire will deflate to the point where there is not enough air inside to maintain its seal with the wheel rim. When that happens you'll be riding on the rim, chewing up the inside of the tire. Depending on the speed and distance travelled in that condition, the tire may or may not be salvageable -- chances are it won't be, and you might also sustain damage to your rim.

note: not all nail punctures can be repaired, however if a plug and patch if possible, a professionally done repair will be long-lasting (ie: not a temp fix). CT does sell do it yourself repair kits -- those are temp-fixes.
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Body shops are for body damage. Tire damage is not body damage.

Try Active Green + Ross. They pulled a nail from my tire and patched it up, re-balanced, etc. Total cost after taxes was 37.77.
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RenegadeX wrote:
Jul 6th, 2008 11:57 am
I read the OP and said out loud "WTF?!"..
I then read 'molala''s reply and said "WTF?!

Seriously people, "body shop" tells you something... they specialize in collision repair, frame(ie: body) repair and reconstruction, painting/repainting body panels, etc. A nail in a tire? If any were open, they'd probably just laugh in your face while they tell you to go elsewhere. Or else have a good laugh as soon as your outside listening range!!

What you need is a general mechanic, or a tire/wheel shop. Open on Sunday? Gee.... let's see.. Canadian TIRE, perhaps? or Costco/Walmart, that type of place, as your typical local mechanic's garage won't be open on a Sunday (or Saturday).

As for "some guy told me that your tires die if you got a nail in them" that's an equally moronic statement .. for 3 reasons:
-1) tires don't/can't "die"; they can however deflate and/or burst; and tread can wear prematurely due to under-inflation.
-2) a nail that goes through the tread portion of the tire (not sidewall) and that is well-embedded does not necessarily create a leak; you may drive around for months not even knowing you have a puncture; however if found, it should be removed and plugged/patched because the potential for a sudden unexpected deflation exists.
-3) if the nail is causing air to leak, then it should be *obvious* that if the condition is not addressed, in the not too distant future, the tire will deflate to the point where there is not enough air inside to maintain its seal with the wheel rim. When that happens you'll be riding on the rim, chewing up the inside of the tire. Depending on the speed and distance travelled in that condition, the tire may or may not be salvageable -- chances are it won't be, and you might also sustain damage to your rim.

note: not all nail punctures can be repaired, however if a plug and patch if possible, a professionally done repair will be long-lasting (ie: not a temp fix). CT does sell do it yourself repair kits -- those are temp-fixes.
how rude! i'm just telling op my experience...i don't care whether or not i have been fooled
o..and when i read about your suggested Costco...i said WTF out loud too!
costco does not only change one tire..they do the whole set
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^ 1. Sharing personal anecdotes with others is beneficial to others when a lesson can be learnt from it. Your post however did not explain why the guy at the body shop sent you away (for all we know he was too busy that day to take the car in), it did not reveal WHERE you or someone else in a similar situation SHOULD be going to resolve a similar nail/tire issue (you just said "he told me to go somewhere else"), and "don't know how true it is though" did NOTHING to help readers ascertain whether what he told you was valid. After all, you DID have a nail in the tire. And....? (so what happened next?)

In other words, your post did not tell the OP or other interested readers anything of value. While my post might have been direct, blunt, rude, whatever you want to call it, not only was it justified but I also provided info of value.

2. When I used the word "moronic" to describe the "tires die [due to getting a nail in them]" statement, I meant just that -- what the guy at the shop told you was moronic; I did *not* mean that YOU were moronic for repeating it. However, now that you mention it, your "don't know how true it is though" reaction (that I did not originally quote) is deserving of the same criticism because anyone of driving age should know that tires don't "die".

3. re: what you said about Costco. I just phoned Costco Scarborough location (as Markham East nearest the OP is LD for me) and spoke to someone in the Tire Service Centre - I told him "I think I have a nail in my LF tire, not sure if its a Costco tire, do you do single tire repairs?", and he said no problem doesn't matter whether it was Costco tire or not, they can take care of it if it's fixable. After hanging up, I realized you had actually said "change.. the whole set" (not repair the 1 affected tire, as at this point we don't know if the OP's tire is beyond repair), so I then called Richmond Hill Costco. I started off with the same spiel, but the guy there said they would only attempt to do repairs on tires that had been sold through Costco. I followed that with: "I'd heard if the tire needs to be replaced, Costco only sells tires in sets of 4". He asked me to hold on a second and I heard him asking someone else in the background. He came back on and said "We don't like to sell just 1 as the tire tread depth will typically be different from one side of the car to the other; we therefore recommend that if you're not replacing all 4, you at least should do both tires on the same axle."

I already knew this, and in retrospect, should have shared it in my original post. What the Costco guy said is sound advice: if the tire does need to be replaced due to an unrepairable puncture (nail in the sidewall for example), and the difference in tread depth between the existing tires on your car and the new tire is significant, it could lead to mechanical and/or handling issues, so in that case it is strongly suggested that more than just the single tire be replaced.

It really depends on how much tread is left. While it is "best" to replace all 4 tires, it is certainly not always necessary, and while it's "good"(ie: suggested) to replace both tires on the axle that is shared by the affected tire (**certainly if the replacement make/brand is different to the existing**), you may be perfectly fine simply having the existing tire with the most tread left on it identified and moved to the same axle as the new tire.

While *some* shops/locations (Costco?) might insist on it (likely to "protect themselves from any liabilities that might arise"), I personally do not agree with it and as a customer would insist on either signing a disclaimer saying I was informed that it was not advisable and that I instructed them to go ahead anyway, accepting responsibility for any issues that might arise as a result -- or I'd just take my business elsewhere. ** I think what we can all learn from this is that it is best to ASK BEFORE you hand over the keys... as once they've got your tire off, they've got you in a situation where you don't really have much choice.**

Another option if you find yourself in a situation where you need just 1 new tire and your others are 1/2-used is to get the 1 new tire shaved down to a matching depth. A good performance wheel & tire specialist (therefore not Canadian Tire! - LoL) such as Wheel and Tire Zone on the Queensway in Toronto can do this (guessing at cost: $20-$25 per tire?). There's plenty of performance tire shops around, so best advice: check the Yellow Pages or online for a shop with that service near you.

Here's some links with others echoing what Costco guy said:
- http://cars.about.com/od/adviceforowner ... ddonts.htm
- http://www.etddiscounttire.com/shop/tiremixing.htm
- http://rdx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1818
- http://www.hondacarforum.com/honda-3/18 ... patch.html
- http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/ca ... 58809.page
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