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bhp wrote:
Nov 14th, 2017 2:57 pm
Great redemptions! I'm waiting for the RBC Avion to Avios promo, hopefully 50% bonus. Alaska is flying out of Everett WA next fall, hopefully some warm destinations
This information is easy to find online, but here are the 8 cities to start ( out of 13 ):
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Alaska’s new point-to-point destinations from Paine Field will be Las Vegas; Los Angeles; Orange County, California; Phoenix; Portland, Oregon; San Diego; San Francisco; and San Jose, California
United is just using PAE as a spoke to DEN and SFO.

SouthWest hasn't announced their 1st 5 flights but My guess is it will be into one of their hubs:
  • Atlanta
  • Baltimore
  • Chicago–Midway
  • Dallas–Love
  • Denver
  • Houston–Hobby
  • Las Vegas
  • Oakland
  • Orlando
  • Phoenix–Sky Harbor
We may see Austin or San Jose if a direct flight makes sense to connect the tech communities together.

I'm curious what the other 5 destinations will be on AK. These initial 8 are just no-brainer flights from their perspective, serving North Seattle residents, Everett better for popular routes ( who won't need to go through Seattle on the I-5 ). Of note, PAE and SEA are equidistant from East Seattle (Redmond, Kirkland)... so I expect Microsoft and Amazon ( located in Bellevue ) may make good use of PAE for a business-traveller bus... especially for employees who live north of their head offices. Everett, of course, is much closer to PAE than SEA.

I'd like to see AK flights from PAE to any of these
  • CLT (Charlotte, big eastern hub)
  • Ft. Lauderdale (cruises)
  • Cancun (beaches)
  • Boston ( underserved from YVR )
  • HNL ( another option to use Avios other than KOA/OGG )
If Vancouver had a PAE, it would be something like if Langley's airport was a large enough to be a viable 2nd airport... however, with YXX being just further out and more developed, I don't think that would happen.

YVR is convenient for Vancouver/Richmond/Burnaby, but rather inconvenient for Surrey/Tri-cities
I'd love to write history... in advance.
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Jon Lai wrote:
May 28th, 2018 2:05 pm
If history repeats itself, RBC Avion -> BA should be happening (hopefully) sometime within the next month... :D
June 15th or thereabouts.

Not sure if 30%, 50% or what though.
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Avion -> Avios: June 15 - July 31, 30% bonus, 10k minimum points to convert
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13inches wrote:
Jun 8th, 2018 11:34 am
Avion -> Avios: June 15 - July 31, 30% bonus, 10k minimum points to convert
Hi I am waiting for the next conversion bonus too. Is this one from a confirmed source? I searched a bit but didn't find anybody mentioning it yet......
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bizee-bee wrote:
Jun 19th, 2018 12:17 pm
If you're not in a rush for a need to use Avios, then I would wait. The RBC Avion to BA Avios conversion promos run about twice a year, at mid-year and end of year and have been either 30% or 50%. The past promos have been:
2018 Jun 30%
2017 Nov 30%
2017 May 30%
2016 Nov 50%
2016 Jun 30%
2015 Nov 30%
2015 Jun 50%
2014 Nov 50%
2014 May 50%

Credit to @crimsona for maintaining a history of the promos at his thread here:
Avion/American Express/Other partners to Aeroplan/BA/AA point transfer promo history

With Aeroplan's oncoming demise in 2020, I decided it's time to explore new territory, so I converted 100K Amex MR to 125K BA Avios during last year's 25% conversion promo. I'm in no rush, and can afford to wait. I'll sit out on this current 30% Avion > Avios promo.
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On my US Amex card, there is a 40% transfer bonus to Avios until Nov 15, 2018.
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batcave wrote:
Oct 27th, 2018 2:35 am
On my US Amex card, there is a 40% transfer bonus to Avios until Nov 15, 2018.
wow, we're doing pretty well then, considering the 30% exchange rate difference
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emmpeethree wrote:
Oct 30th, 2018 1:43 pm
wow, we're doing pretty well then, considering the 30% exchange rate difference
I'm not sure whether you're being facetious or not but I don't use Canadian funds to spend in the US so exchange rate is not a factor for me.
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batcave wrote:
Oct 30th, 2018 1:57 pm
I'm not sure whether you're being facetious or not but I don't use Canadian funds to spend in the US so exchange rate is not a factor for me.
i was pointing out that canadians for once get a better deal than americans with regards to points.

in general:
$1 USD spent on US amex = 1 US Amex reward point x 1.4 conversion transfer bonus = 1.4 Avios/USD $ x 0.76 (exchange rate) = 1.064 avios/ CAD$
$1 CAD spent on canadian amex= 1 Canadian Amex point x 1.3 conversion transfer bonus = 1.3 avios/ CAD$

When taking into account the exchange rate, the US Amex points are only worth ~7% more despite costing ~30% (exchange rate) more (using CAD as base currency). So this means Canadian Amex users who take advantage of these transfer bonus offers are earning ~23% more avios points compared to american amex members
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emmpeethree wrote:
Oct 30th, 2018 2:21 pm
i was pointing out that canadians for once get a better deal than americans with regards to points.

in general:
$1 USD spent on US amex = 1 US Amex reward point x 1.4 conversion factor bonus = 1.4 Avios/USD $ x 0.76 (exchange rate) = 1.064 avios/ CAD$
$1 CAD spent on canadian amex= 1 Canadian Amex point x 1.3 conversion factor bonus = 1.3 avios/ CAD$

When taking into account the exchange rate, the US Amex points are only worth ~7% more despite costing ~30% (exchange rate) more (using CAD as base currency). So this means Canadian Amex users who take advantage of these transfer bonus offers are earning ~23% more avios points compared to american amex members
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emmpeethree wrote:
Oct 30th, 2018 2:21 pm
i was pointing out that canadians for once get a better deal than americans with regards to points.

in general:
$1 USD spent on US amex = 1 US Amex reward point x 1.4 conversion factor bonus = 1.4 Avios/USD $ x 0.76 (exchange rate) = 1.064 avios/ CAD$
$1 CAD spent on canadian amex= 1 Canadian Amex point x 1.3 conversion factor bonus = 1.3 avios/ CAD$

When taking into account the exchange rate, the US Amex points are only worth ~7% more despite costing ~30% (exchange rate) more (using CAD as base currency). So this means Canadian Amex users who take advantage of these transfer bonus offers are earning ~23% more avios points compared to american amex members
Yes, you're right. And if you have both a U.S. and a Canadian MR account, you can take advantage of that by calling Amex and moving your U.S. MR to your Canadian account at the current exchange rate. That way, your 1 MR will convert into 1.31 MR and then using the Canadian 30% promo to get 1.7 Avios vs. 1.4 Avios using the U.S. 40% promo.
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efrant wrote:
Oct 30th, 2018 2:36 pm
Yes, you're right. And if you have both a U.S. and a Canadian MR account, you can take advantage of that by calling Amex and moving your U.S. MR to your Canadian account at the current exchange rate. That way, your 1 MR will convert into 1.31 MR and then using the Canadian 30% promo to get 1.7 Avios vs. 1.4 Avios using the U.S. 40% promo.
now I just have to find out how to get a US amex... didn't know you could transfer between CAD and US MR accounts

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