I thought Avios always priced separately?? so YYZ-HKG is one booking, then HKG-NRT/destination is another Avios bookingmkjr wrote: ↑May 27th, 2015 1:37 pmto give you some numbers, CX J - YYZ-HKG ONLY, is NOW (post April 28) 105,000 avios or say 70,000 RBC. using AA miles, currently, it is 50,000 and you could essentially fly YYZ-HKG or if space was an issue, HKG-ORD or JFK or BOS and then to Toronto.
in the good old days, it was both 50K (AA and BA miles) but with avios you could go YYZ-HKG (stop over)-then continue to Tokyo (or PEK/PVG or even as far as Bali) for 50K each way so it was way better to convert to BA. i managed to book 6 tickets at the good old day miles.
factor the 50K with a 50% bonus on RBC to BA, and that flight was only 33,333 RBC points (granted you could not churn as easy back then)....so even at a bonus with AA, 33K versus say the 35% bonus on AA (the highest it ever ways), points to BA always won when it came to CX flights to the far east.
Then BA did the first devaluation and then YYZ-HKG went to 70K each way in J and you had to price out the onward connection separately so YYZ-HKG-NRT in J became 90K. so first devaluation almost doubled it.
Now, it is 125k. So that is why now, the bonus from AA over could be rather helpful although this ASSUMES that AA is not going to screw people like BA did....twice.
So for the time being, I think I will keep moving AP miles out of my account for flights I am forced to fly on AC and churn AP cards for no fees and move those points to Esso and to RBC at a rate of 0.684 RBC points per AP point. Then keep them there depending on what I plan to do with them. And decent to convert to AA or to BA but sadly, I have to now look at AP again to see what their redemption rates are...
Anyway, each FFP has its places and sweet spots, best to diversify if possible to tap into different alliances.
I have Aeroplan, AMEX MR, BA Avios, AAdvantage
AMEX Personal 60K || Business Platinum 75K || Biz Gold 40K || SPG 25K