Thread: Banned from school, what should I do??!
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Aug 29th, 2005 01:49 AM
#1
Banned from school, what should I do??!
So, I'm banned from Earl Haig SS. I can still go to school, but I can't stay there after the school ends. If they find me there 5 mins after the bell rings, I'll be arrested!
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Anyways, this is what happened. A week or 2 ago, I went skateboarding with my friend. I suggested the Xerox building, but he said that we would get in trouble so instead we should just skate at our school... bad idea.
We were skating for a while when a TDSB security guard pulled up in his car which said "...Protecting our schools". Oh NO! Protecting them from what? Skateboarders? Well since we skateboard, we MUST be into drugs and violence right?
Anyways, he asked for our information (I'm an honest guy so I gave my real info, even though he was only a security guard) and reported to "base" or whatever. All I heard was "Yeah, Alpha delta aero, blah blah blah" Wth?? Secret TDSB language?? Well, they found out that my friend had been spoken to before so they put him under arrest (can security guards do that?) and called the police. We were really calm about it though. We just sat there for 2 hours waiting for the police while making jokes and watching my friend try to drink from a bottle with handcuffs on. He also wanted me to scratch his nose but being the good friend I am, I didn't.
FINALLY after day became night the police showed up. The security acted like dogs trying to get the police's attention and sucking up to them (laughing at the lamest jokes, acting twice as much of an assh*** to us to make themselves seem tough). The police were also rude. One of them kept yelling at my friend for stupid things like nodding instead of replying with a "yes" and whatnot.
The police took my info and the security guards gave us banning slips right after. The stupid part was that I was allowed to leave long ago, but I waited for my friend. If I didn't then I wouldn't have had to give my info to the police and PROBABLY wouldn't have gotten banned. Damn my stupid friend! Damn him!
Anyways back to my question. Does anyone know how I can solve this problem and get unbanned? Btw, the security guard said that our offence was trespassing and skateboarding and that the ban is FOREVER.
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Aug 29th, 2005 02:05 AM
#2
dont worry about it..
unless if the security guard is followin u right after school!
you are first a student! and got legal right to be there..
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Aug 29th, 2005 02:12 AM
#3
Well, my friend's granpa called and they said that they have a LOT of people banned, so they check regularly. Although I AM asian, so I just have to jump into a bunch of chinese people and they'll never find me!
. I even have a fake name and address ready.
I know that it probably won't be inforced, but I don't want to take the chance. Getting arrested, being charged $70, and going to court doesn't seem very nice to me. I just want to go to school without any worries like that.
EDIT: To them, I am a student and legally am allowed to stay, but after school is out, I'm considered tresspassing.
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Aug 29th, 2005 03:13 AM
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Aug 29th, 2005 03:26 AM
#5
extra-curricular activies...
sounds like small stuff man.
i thought u were actually banned from skool but u were banned from playing there after skool. no biggie. take ur skateboarding fun somewhere else.
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Aug 29th, 2005 03:43 AM
#6
Wow that's crazy. At my school you could get caught smoking pot and it would only be a one week suspension. In my city, you're not allowed to skateboard downtown, but at school you only get in crap for rail sliding and crap like that.
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Aug 29th, 2005 08:52 AM
#7
talk to the school admin
like seriously, what if you're doing after school activities?????
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Aug 29th, 2005 09:28 AM
#8
just for future reference
unless the law has changed recently, a security guard cannot LEGALLY hold you for more than 15 minutes until the police shows up. This is at least the case in malls. If within 15 minutes the police is not there you tell them to **** off and leave.
someone correct me if I'm wrong
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Aug 29th, 2005 09:42 AM
#9
what a jerk. most of those security dudes just ask you to leave.
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Aug 29th, 2005 10:05 AM
#10

Originally Posted by
Midevilshadow
So, I'm banned from Earl Haig SS. I can still go to school, but I can't stay there after the school ends.
If you can still go to school, you aren't banned. Go home & study or skate somewhere else, not a big deal.
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Aug 29th, 2005 10:10 AM
#11
This sounds like a really stupid punishment...
why would someone BAN a student from staying after school? It seems to do more harm than good. Instead of having students STAY after school to help clean up, do extra projects, volunteer, extra activities etc. The system wants students to get out of school as soon as possible to go cause trouble elsewhere.
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Aug 29th, 2005 10:10 AM
#12

Originally Posted by
WiZZLa
If you can still go to school, you aren't banned. Go home & study or skate somewhere else, not a big deal.
What if he has to stay late for:
sports game, extra-curricular club, handing in an assignment, working with a group etc?
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Aug 29th, 2005 10:12 AM
#13

Originally Posted by
wanted
What if he has to stay late for:
sports game, extra-curricular club, handing in an assignment, working with a group etc?
That's too bad then. Go skateboard somewhere else... lol
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Aug 29th, 2005 10:25 AM
#14
I think it's good you got caught and punished for skating on school grounds. There are many places that are ruined because skaters grind the edges of cement and such and the cement turns black and unattractive b/c of the wax.
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Aug 29th, 2005 10:49 AM
#15

Originally Posted by
mystro
just for future reference
unless the law has changed recently, a security guard cannot LEGALLY hold you for more than 15 minutes until the police shows up. This is at least the case in malls. If within 15 minutes the police is not there you tell them to **** off and leave.
someone correct me if I'm wrong
Ok, here's how it works.
a) A security guard CANNOT legally detain someone. Now, in the case of suspected shoplifting, it's common for the store owner/security to "persuade" the individual to stick around until the police arrive. Again, not legal, but often tolerated.
b) A security guard (or the owner of the private property you're on), however, can arrest someone they find committing a criminal offence on that property. In the poster's case, the arrest of his friend was legal (based on available information) because he was violating the trespass to property act.
Now, once a security guard performs the arrest, they have to "deliver" the arrestee to a peace officer. Calling the police is the form most commonly used. Until the police arrive (even if it takes a few hours), the arrestee is in the custody of the arrester. It should be noted that the arrester cannot decide to let the person go, after the arrest has taken place they MUST be turned over to the police (or another peace officer).
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