Fair enough, when I said it wasn't high end finishes I was referring to the quality of the materials, but I understand $4000+ in a vanity its not considered basic.
Bathroom renovations gone awry
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- orisha85
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- dreaderus
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I just gutted a 3 piece in my main floor cost me about 8 grand in all replacing everything including the floor and so forth. This is in a 35 year old house.
Just not sure what could possibly be done in a nearly new house, to create such an expensive scenario unless we are talking stupid extravagance (gold stuff lol)
Just not sure what could possibly be done in a nearly new house, to create such an expensive scenario unless we are talking stupid extravagance (gold stuff lol)
- orisha85
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The vanity I had to get is almost twice the size of the one you have (108"). Up to 72" can be found in the big box stores, more than that and you need to get it custom made
- Ziggy007
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Did you even read my post? I said if they aren't getting nicer finishes and more high end things that you listed like heated floors then they are getting ripped off for that 38K...LandKing wrote: ↑huh? those are prices for more like public washrooms
toilet seats alone can run for 1200+ for electronic ones, add another $500 for toilet ..you want a shower panel? another 600.. glass enclosure shower with marble/porcelain tiles? nice quartz countertops with double sinks, nicer faucets and etc.. easy to get up there once you start using non cookie cutter subdivision stuff.
heated floors?
A small bathroom could be done for about 3K in materials for a solid finish. A large bathroom is probably around 10-12K assuming you are doing the work yourself. Labor would probably double the cost of either.
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To all the people going on about the price, without knowing specifics we can only speculate, perhaps there is extensive damage (from water leakage or weather), or the bathroom is being made for someone with disabilities, or who knows, while i agree that 38k is a lot (i could not in this lifetime afford that) judging the cost without any information just leads to OP bashing, and besides the cost bears little relation to the point of this thread, the point is they hired a contractor who is not delivering and appears to be running away with their money.
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- nalababe
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Any reputable company around us provides a quote in the 20 range (we had many)...and these are not luxurious renovations, but do include gut to stud .
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time to follow Quentin5's advice, a higher quality bathroom with heated ceramic floor, walk in shower, good quality tub, double vanity, and toilet, in a decent home is 20 to 25k at an absolute minimum in the GTA, and can easily run to mid thirties, forties, or even 50k (There are tubs alone that cost upwards of five grand, a heated and tiled floor can be the same price or more installed, a walk in shower with glass door - 1 grand for tile, 1 grand for fixtures, another grand for a glass door) is easily another five k.
I think the OP wants useful advice in case the reno actually goes south.
I think the OP wants useful advice in case the reno actually goes south.
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Just a guy who dabbles in lots of stuff learning along the way. I do have opinions, and readily share them!
- mtseymourguy
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Blanco kitchen sinks sell for 1200 but a year later you can buy them for 120 on their website . Im guessing all these luxury reno's depreciate rapidly. But i woyld love gemstone bathtub.
- Meesty [OP]
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Indeed! It is a hefty price to pay for bathroom renovation. This is not a rich couple. Still they make enough to pay for renovations to a home that they plan to keep for the rest of their lives. Investing in renovations while they can still pay for those and not wait for when they retire makes sense to them. I know them well enough to say that, like most people these days, they both work very hard for their money and, in their case, in spite of the odds that are stacked against them health-wise. That's why it breaks my heart to see them in such a predicament.
Today, they learnt that the bathroom appliances that they had ordered & already paid for through the contractor cannot be delivered to their home because of about $11k worth of appliances, the contractor has only paid $2.5K to the supplier! The supplier tells them that they can have the appliances if they cough up the remaining $8K!
As for the contractor, I'm told that none of those contacted at the company yesterday and today know where he is or what is going on with the company!!! This is all very strange and worrisome.
- Meesty [OP]
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Thanks Quentin5! You are very kind. Still questions are ok. I don't mind. There is much to learn about the pitfalls of renovating with this case. For example, regarding the appliances, when we renovated our house in Quebec, *we* bought the appliances for the bathrooms ourselves and had them delivered to our home for the contractor to install. He was ok with that, and so were we. Whereas here, my friends bought their appliances from a supplier of the contractor and now they can't get them delivered to their home because the contractor has not yet paid for them! Bummer! I don't know how a client prevents such mishap, but knowing that that can happen may get people to seek advice before going that way.Quentin5 wrote: ↑To all the people going on about the price, without knowing specifics we can only speculate, perhaps there is extensive damage (from water leakage or weather), or the bathroom is being made for someone with disabilities, or who knows, while i agree that 38k is a lot (i could not in this lifetime afford that) judging the cost without any information just leads to OP bashing, and besides the cost bears little relation to the point of this thread, the point is they hired a contractor who is not delivering and appears to be running away with their money.
As for the situation that might have led to mounting costs that you mention, in their case, it's not that. It's just that they wanted some really neat appliances that would allow them to relax and enjoy the rest of their day at home after a good day's work. Those appliances are rather expensive. So if you subtract say $12k of appliances from the $38k total, the remaining $26k is what the renovation itself is costing. It's still rather high in my opinion, but so it is.
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Do let us know how it turns out, even if its a few months from nowMeesty wrote: ↑Thanks Quentin5! You are very kind. Still questions are ok. I don't mind. There is much to learn about the pitfalls of renovating with this case. For example, regarding the appliances, when we renovated our house in Quebec, *we* bought the appliances for the bathrooms ourselves and had them delivered to our home for the contractor to install. He was ok with that, and so were we. Whereas here, my friends bought their appliances from a supplier of the contractor and now they can't get them delivered to their home because the contractor has not yet paid for them! Bummer! I don't know how a client prevents such mishap, but knowing that that can happen may get people to seek advice before going that way.
As for the situation that might have led to mounting costs that you mention, in their case, it's not that. It's just that they wanted some really neat appliances that would allow them to relax and enjoy the rest of their day at home after a good day's work. Those appliances are rather expensive. So if you subtract say $12k of appliances from the $38k total, the remaining $26k is what the renovation itself is costing. It's still rather high in my opinion, but so it is.
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- shawn01
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So any word from the contractor or have the fixtures been delivered?Meesty wrote: ↑Thanks Quentin5! You are very kind. Still questions are ok. I don't mind. There is much to learn about the pitfalls of renovating with this case. For example, regarding the appliances, when we renovated our house in Quebec, *we* bought the appliances for the bathrooms ourselves and had them delivered to our home for the contractor to install. He was ok with that, and so were we. Whereas here, my friends bought their appliances from a supplier of the contractor and now they can't get them delivered to their home because the contractor has not yet paid for them! Bummer! I don't know how a client prevents such mishap, but knowing that that can happen may get people to seek advice before going that way.
As for the situation that might have led to mounting costs that you mention, in their case, it's not that. It's just that they wanted some really neat appliances that would allow them to relax and enjoy the rest of their day at home after a good day's work. Those appliances are rather expensive. So if you subtract say $12k of appliances from the $38k total, the remaining $26k is what the renovation itself is costing. It's still rather high in my opinion, but so it is.
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Well the last update seems to be on this thread dated jan 22 need-references-good-construction-lawye ... st21374299
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Any updates on this saga?
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