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Best pre-owned family vehicle with 2 kids

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Jimbobs wrote:
Sep 15th, 2015 6:29 pm
I have only ever rented minivans and found them bland, gutless, dangerous, poorly designed and did I say bland? A mid size is much more comfortable, safer and less bland than any minivan out there.

The reason manufacturers put so much marketing effort into minivans and SUV's is because they bypass all the regulations that apply to cars. Minivans and SUV's are classified as trucks.
Bland?? Well minivans are not sports cars, they would not give you thrills that point you got it right. People don't buy minivans to have thrills, I hope I don't need to explain you this. I have been in many minivans, from Dodge Caravan in 90ties to 99, also I have driven Plymouth Voyager (Nissan Quest), 2000 Honda Odyssey, 2005 Toyota Sienna, 2014 Toyota Sienna and 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan. These are utility vehicles, they are not dangerous and poorly designed. I would rather be in one of these than in Corolla or Camry. Bypass regulations??? Can you please name one regulation which minivans bypass??
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Mazda5 or an Accord? I don't think you would need to change cars if you're having a 2nd child.
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romsan04 wrote:
Sep 16th, 2015 12:30 am
Bland?? Well minivans are not sports cars, they would not give you thrills that point you got it right. People don't buy minivans to have thrills, I hope I don't need to explain you this. I have been in many minivans, from Dodge Caravan in 90ties to 99, also I have driven Plymouth Voyager (Nissan Quest), 2000 Honda Odyssey, 2005 Toyota Sienna, 2014 Toyota Sienna and 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan. These are utility vehicles, they are not dangerous and poorly designed. I would rather be in one of these than in Corolla or Camry. Bypass regulations??? Can you please name one regulation which minivans bypass??
Read this:

[INDENT]The top-selling vehicle in North America for the last 32 years is the Ford F Series pickup truck. In 2013, three out of the five top-selling autos in America were pickup trucks that get less than 18 miles per gallon. This may explain how America, with only 4 percent of the world population, burns about 25 percent of the oil consumed in the entire world.

The Loophole Big Enough to Drive a Truck Through

According to federal regulations, light-duty trucks are supposed to be primarily designed for the transport of property or for off-road operation, and have a gross vehicle weight of less than 14,000 pounds. The "light truck" classification was created in the early 1970s to acknowledge the difficulty that vehicles used for work or on the farm would have meeting the same standards as cars. In 1978, Congress enacted the federal Gas Guzzler Tax and again exempted light trucks. The auto industry has exploited the fact that vehicles in this category do not need to meet the same safety, fuel economy or emission standards as cars by introducing luxury trucks, vans and four-wheel drive SUVs that are mainly used for the on-road transport of people. A study by Friends of the Earth found that, since 1999, automakers have avoided paying billions in Gas Guzzler taxes by calling passenger vehicles "light trucks." Because trucks don’t need to meet the same safety, emission or fuel economy standards, they are much cheaper to manufacture so the profit margin on these "light trucks" can be more than ten times greater than that of the more fuel efficient cars that serve the same purpose.

The billions of dollars that have gone into advertising these grossly inefficient vehicles has taken light truck sales from 30 percent of vehicle sales in 1990 to over 50 percent of the nearly 20 million vehicles sold in the U.S. in 2013. As a result, the fuel economy of the U.S. vehicle fleet as a whole has been declining over the same period, even though the fuel efficiency of cars has been increasing. Indeed, the advertising of utility vehicles has been so successful that many environmentalists drive four-wheel drive vehicles so (supposedly) they can get closer to nature. In fact, less than 10 percent of the vehicles in the light truck category ever get used for the off-road or utility use that allowed them to avoid the same safety, fuel economy, emission standards and taxes imposed on cars. Now, it is a common sight to see grocery store parking lots full of shiny big vans, four-wheel drive SUVs and even monstrous crew-cab pickups with dual rear wheels.[/INDENT]
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Ford flex. Spacious,awd and Ecoboost available. Good deals on used ones.
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We drove a 2002 Accord (bought used in 2006) with leather for 8 yrs, with our boys graduating from rear-facing seats to boosters. Wife refused minivan or suv. Perfect vehicle and would still be driving it if it hadn't rusted out. Driving a Legacy now and like the Accord it has big windows, room to put driver's seat back, and doors that open wide. Trunk opening sucks, though. I miss the Accord in summer but feel safer in winter with family in the Legacy. Camry would work too. Get leather if you can for clean ups.
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Philbert wrote:
Sep 16th, 2015 2:10 am
... Get leather if you can for clean ups ...
This is exactly why budget airlines provide leather seats even in economy - faster and easier to clean that fabric covered seats.

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