Beware of Jarred Hayman - giftcard scammer

[caseysghost]

Does Kijiji just release these information to the police without a warrant? Or is it just the ISP which requires police to show a warrant?

The City of London Fraud Squad had been made aware of Jarred frauds. In fact, that's how they contacted me, in regards to my house. Unfortunately they are busy with MANY frauds. The detective I've been working with is quite nice and has been very helpful in providing information.

[caseysghost]

To summarize:

You listed your house, and the buyer agreed to buy it. Due to other circumstances, you could not move into the house that you were going to buy, and so the deal with you and the buyer fell apart. I'm assuming there was something in the sale contract of your house to account for this, as I'm told this is common practice? (I've only purchased a house once, so I've only really seen this in passing) You felt bad for the deal falling apart, and reached a deal with the buyer for some compensation. I assume this was done as a means to avoid a lawsuit, given that you posted you got "extortionate demands".

Afterwards, you found out that the money that the buyer supposedly had may not have been on the up-and-up, and so you feel like you don't owe him anything now, as the deal was probably doomed to failure anyways once the buyer's fraud was uncovered.

Was there any sort of legal agreement, or was your lawyer involved in the giving of money to the buyer in lieu of the deal falling apart?

Yes, my lawyer drew up the agreement, unfortunately it was signed off 2 days before I heard from Det. Constable Fraser. It was that that started this ball rolling. I mean, who would have thought this kind of stuff goes on? It certainly opened my eyes. When I sold my townhouse this summer, I had my agent check the buyer out six ways to sunday. The guy wondered why all the questions. When he found out what had happened to me, he was shocked. My agent has been in real estate a long time, and he said nothing like this has ever happened before. Cautiionary Tale: Make sure that any buyer is is going thru a bank---no private deals. If they can't qualify with a bank, chances are they don't have enough income or their deadbeats.

[caseysghost]

[QUOTE=saint2e;13847382]To summarize:

I'm assuming there was something in the sale contract of your house to account for this, as I'm told this is common practice?


LOL! if only. No. That's not how it works in Ontario. Once you enter into a sales contract its binding. That's why I had to negotiate a deal to avoid being sued. IF I had any inkling of this I would have had my lawyer tell Jarred's lawyer to F@CK off. Sue me. Jarred wouldn't dare because then his whole house of cards comes out into the open. He'd leave the court in handcuffs for fraud.

[supeg93]

Sonny, don't assume people are stupid just because you are. I was advised by the POLICE, what part of that did you miss? Jeez, instead of jumping to conclusions, why don't you read the whole problem. I have been advised that if I did sue Jarred, (which I can do) because of his lack of money, I'd have a judgement, but then I wouldn't get paid. All of the fraud occured AFTER the release of the deal was signed. The cops were on Jarred's tail, and unfortunately I heard from them too late. This has nothing to do with sour grapes or anything like that. Get that notion out of your head. Jarred is a fraudster pure and simple. ALL of his companies are frauds. I've checked them thru the BBB and with the Provincial government. So, Your comments are beyond ridiculously stupid, because you don't have the first clue of what you are babbling on about. I would have been fine IF they were legit. I've also spoken to Jarred's real estate lawyer (after a lot of arm twisting, and threatening going to the Law Society). Everyone involved in this the lawyers, real estate agents etc, all agree that Jarred should not have gotten a red cent. i post this here to warn others, not to elict your sympathy. its neither requested or wanted. You can believe whatever you like.

*****, who advised you the voices in your head? Very bitter person you are, why would it matter if they got a mortgage fraudulently? You would have gotten your money anyways, sour grapes is all this is. You are very angry that they did not agree to get out of the house sale for cheap or nothing. Again, it sucks that they scammed OP and I really do feel bad for him, you however are a ***** and deserve zero sympathy.

[supeg93]

[QUOTE=caseysghost;13940834]

To summarize:

I'm assuming there was something in the sale contract of your house to account for this, as I'm told this is common practice?


LOL! if only. No. That's not how it works in Ontario. Once you enter into a sales contract its binding. That's why I had to negotiate a deal to avoid being sued. IF I had any inkling of this I would have had my lawyer tell Jarred's lawyer to F@CK off. Sue me. Jarred wouldn't dare because then his whole house of cards comes out into the open. He'd leave the court in handcuffs for fraud.

Huge holes in this story. The sale would have not gone through UNLESS your lawyer received the money. If the lawyer receives the money it does not matter how they obtained it does it?

[need4greed]

Wow, I never thought that a little thread that I started would turn into such a lengthly discussion.

For what's it's worth, here's an update from my end:

- Jarred/Lilmommy and I are attempting to work out our issue privately (ie, them paying me back). While they agreed to do so in writing, the repayment date kept getting delayed. They now promised to "try" to repay me after the holidays.

- Very recently, I was contacted by the police asking for an interview to discuss my dealings with Jarred. Since I am attempting to work out the matter privately with Jarred, I have advised them so and scheduled the meeting to after the new year. I figured that if I don't hear from Jarred by then, he will probably never repay me and I will go through the hassle of the meeting. Otherwise, in the off chance that he does pay me, the issue can be considered closed and no meeting necessary.

We'll see what happens....

Happy holidays to all and in particular to those who remained interested in this matter!

[caseysghost]

[QUOTE=supeg93;13952214]

Huge holes in this story. The sale would have not gone through UNLESS your lawyer received the money. If the lawyer receives the money it does not matter how they obtained it does it?

Where are you getting this from???? You read what you wanted to read. First of all, its matters greatly how money was obtained. Its not called fraud because oh well who cares. Sigh......people please learn to read before you post. It saves much time recapping for the 80th time.

1. Jarred and I entered into a sale agreement for a townhouse.
2. Papers signed etc.
3. Due to default by seller of home I was to buy, I initiated a collapese of the deal with Jarred.
4. Jarred offered $5000 on top of legal expenses immediately.
5. Jarred thru his laywer dragged it out for 4 days and demanded $10,000 plus expenses, on a townhouse selling for $112,000.
6. I pulled the equity off and paid Jarred. Papers signed. Moving on with life.
7. Return to work and receive a phone call from City of London Police asking numerous questions about sale of townhouse. Then advised jarred is a scammer, selling gift cards and was under arrest.
8. Find out from detective that jarred used a private lender, and that his lawyer refuses to divulge name of lender.
9. Start checking on the internet and find out about jarred and his ficticious companies. Inquire of my lawyer whether I can sue jarred. Informed yes, but even with judgement, since he has no real income, would be unable to collect anything.
10. Lawyers involved on all sides. Jarred's lawyer said he thought jarred's supplied financials were "hinky" but approved it anyway according to Det. Fraser.
11. I continue to post all of Jarred's fraudulent companies to warn people about him, since he doesn't care who he screws.
12. If anything I have posted was incorrect, Jarred could sue me. He hasn't and he won't since to do so will expose every one of his frauds and lies.
13. His girlfriend lilmommy posts lies on the board. Claims they needed the money from me to pay for appliances they bought. First, the townhouse came with 7 upgraded appliances all within 3 years old. Also, if true, any appliances bought, could simply be cancelled. I had to do that myself when the seller defaulted on me. Then lilmommie after seeing that lie didn't work, then claims they put $30,000 down on the townhouse. So, with the $10,000 they got from me, they could have bought a really nice detatched house. Instead they are living in a rental apartment. On Kijji, noted they had a ad claiming they owned a 3 bed detached house in a very tony part of London and were looking to rent a room to someonce. Clearly a lie, since if true, why did lilmommie claim they needed my place because she was having a baby??
What I should have done is told Jarred to piss off and go ahead and sue me. If I had known then what I know now, that's exactly what would have happened. At least I'd still have my $11,700. However, since I'm honest, I didn't do that. I made a deal in good faith, but I didn't know I was dealing with a fraudster.

See what I mean. Jumping to conclusions is very dangerous. And if you think that it doesn't matter where a person gets money from, then my friend you are quite naive. Why should someone benefit by fraudulently obtaining money?? Jarred's plan was to screw the private lender out of the money, and when I defaulted he simply shifted it to me. Interestingly enough, when the lender found out about what jarred had done, he immediately cancelled a second deal with jarred. If jarred was so up and up, the lender would have lent him more money.

[caseysghost]

Wow, I never thought that a little thread that I started would turn into such a lengthly discussion.

For what's it's worth, here's an update from my end:

- Jarred/Lilmommy and I are attempting to work out our issue privately (ie, them paying me back). While they agreed to do so in writing, the repayment date kept getting delayed. They now promised to "try" to repay me after the holidays.

- Very recently, I was contacted by the police asking for an interview to discuss my dealings with Jarred. Since I am attempting to work out the matter privately with Jarred, I have advised them so and scheduled the meeting to after the new year. I figured that if I don't hear from Jarred by then, he will probably never repay me and I will go through the hassle of the meeting. Otherwise, in the off chance that he does pay me, the issue can be considered closed and no meeting necessary.

We'll see what happens....

Happy holidays to all and in particular to those who remained interested in this matter!

Actually need4, after my conversation with Det. Con. Fraser, I typed jarred's name into google and found your post, so I thank you for posting. It helped me greatly to understand what kind of person jarred is to defraud people. LOL! I wouldn't hold my breath regarding jarred paying you back. Fraudsters like those two, are like excrement on the bottom of a shoe, they stink to high heaven. They think they are entitled. Even Det Fraser said that jarred wouldn't know the truth if it bit him. I figure one day jarrred will rip the wrong person off, and we'll see an obit in the LFP.

And Jarred, my offer is still open: Pay the $11,700 you fraudulently stole from me, in cash to my lawyer c/o Harrison Pensa. I will then cease tracking you and posting about your frauds. If not, then keep looking over your shoulder boy. Your choice.

[caseysghost]

Wow, I never thought that a little thread that I started would turn into such a lengthly discussion.

For what's it's worth, here's an update from my end:

- Jarred/Lilmommy and I are attempting to work out our issue privately (ie, them paying me back). While they agreed to do so in writing, the repayment date kept getting delayed. They now promised to "try" to repay me after the holidays.

- Very recently, I was contacted by the police asking for an interview to discuss my dealings with Jarred. Since I am attempting to work out the matter privately with Jarred, I have advised them so and scheduled the meeting to after the new year. I figured that if I don't hear from Jarred by then, he will probably never repay me and I will go through the hassle of the meeting. Otherwise, in the off chance that he does pay me, the issue can be considered closed and no meeting necessary.

We'll see what happens....

Happy holidays to all and in particular to those who remained interested in this matter!

What's to try?? They got $10,000 from me. They have the money to pay you back. They won't because they don't care. I hope you didn't believe the "in writing" bit? Jarred nonchalantly signed a purchase agreement and supplied phony financials to a lender without batting an eyelash. Not only that, given their ads on Kijji they ought to have tons of cash. He's always got trucks and airline tickets to sell. You should ask them what happened to $30,000 lilmommy claims they had for a downpayment. LOL. More of their lies. If they have that nice 3 bed house that lilmommie claims to have, then I'm sure they could pull some money out to pay you. Pfft. Fraudsters and their lies.

[caseysghost]

Granny, who advised you the voices in your head? Very bitter person you are, why would it matter if they got a mortgage fraudulently? You would have gotten your money anyways, sour grapes is all this is. You are very angry that they did not agree to get out of the house sale for cheap or nothing. Again, it sucks that they scammed OP and I really do feel bad for him, you however are a moron and deserve zero sympathy.

Wow, did someone piss in your cornflakes??



I don't know about you, but I've never found insulting someone to be a particularly effective tactic in terms of winning an argument. It is inappropriate, and it will not change my point of view. I've articulated my arguments, and what I hold to be reasonable. If that does not satisfy you, we'll just have to agree to disagree. There is no need to be rude and obnoxious. You clearly did not read the entirety of the problem, and choose to cherrypick and then hurl insults. Maybe when you grow up, you can come back and post intelligently.

You display a breathtaking lack of understanding and have jumbled up what actually occured. What are you referring to when you say "You would have gotten your money anyways, sour grapes is all this is. You are very angry that they did not agree to get out of the house sale for cheap or nothing." I never said that. That's you making stuff up. Again, if you are going to comment, at least READ and UNDERSTAND what you are commenting about. And I would have got my money????? What??? Again, you are jumbling up points and mixing stuff up, coming to a conclusion that has no bearing on the subject. For clarity I have posted a short version of events a few posts above this one. Please read it. If you can stow your hateful comments for 2 minutes, you will find how wrong you are.

[caseysghost]

[QUOTE=Jdquart;13851060]Did u enter into a legally binding contract with the purchaser? Im confused, how would the couple have known you were going to break the agreement?
Just trying to connect the dots. It seems to me, there has been no scam commmited because nothing has been premeditated.
You are angry because you believe the deal would not have gone through? What would lead you to believe that they were unable to finalize the purchase?

First of all, you are reading things into this that just are not there. Yes, the contract was legally binding (that's why jarred was paid $11,700). The couple DIDN'T know, how could they possibly? that doesn't even begin to make sense. I found out that they entered the deal fraudulently AFTER they were paid off to collapse the deal. From the police. Got that now?

"no scam commmited because nothing has been premeditated", ah but yes it was premeditated because Jarred has no real income other than what he gets from scams. Secondly, he signed a legally binding agreement fully knowing that, and thirdly, his own real estate lawyer admitted to the police that he felt Jarred's financials were "hinky", he approved it anyway.

"You are angry because you believe the deal would not have gone through? What would lead you to believe that they were unable to finalize the purchase?" Where on earth did you get that from???? Sigh.....how many more times...jeez people learn to read for comprehension please! I am angry because Jarred extorted money from me to break a deal that he knew he had no legal business entering in the first place. Have you got that now???? I will turn this around, maybe it will percolate thru: IF I had not collapsed the deal, it would have closed as per normal. The one getting screwed would have been the lender, since you need a steady income (at a certain level) to support mtg, taxes and condo fees, plus utilities. Instead of the lender being screwed it was me. Jarred's companies don't exist. He doesn't pay taxes to the CRA, because they are not registered. Jarred thru the help of his friends created a ficticious papertrail. Easy done if you know how. And also have confederates who will back your claims to the private lender. Would it help if I told you that some of Jarred's twitter friends are into website design?? Or into consulting on how to set up a business?? Jarred's companies had been using rental townhouses as a front. My townhouse had an interesting feature: It has a street address, no unit number. Ideal for a scammer determined to fool people into thinking his companies where such big deals. Jarred took that one step further, he lies on his websites that he has an address at 1 London Place. Pretty ritzy. He actually doesn't. For Jarred its about fooling people. Not only that, perhaps you are unaware, but Jarred's girfriend Mary confirmed that they (supposedly) own a 3 bedroom house On Lawson Rd. (another tony area) and had an ad on Kijjii trying to rent a room out. Now, if you already had a house, why would you want a 2 bedroom so desperately (as to be almost hysterical)because Mary was having a baby? My lawyer said they wanted my townhouse so desperately because they wanted to set up a nursery before the baby was born. HUH? They were crapping a brick, because they were worried everything would be found out. They had not anticipated my collapsing the deal. They knew that if someone took a close look at their financials, they'd be in deep trouble. So, intead of the lender being out his money, he gets saved from losing, and I am the one out the money.

Bottom line is this: A person cannot enter into a legally binding agreement and sign off on it, knowing that they have supplied false information. That's like lying to your insurance company. If they do, contract law allows that they cannot financially benefit. That is why I am angry, not because I had to pay them. I had no problem with that. That's part of entering a contract. I entered the agreement in good faith, Jarred did not. That is the difference. Hopefully that clears things up for you?

[caseysghost]

Did u enter into a legally binding contract with the purchaser? Im confused, how would the couple have known you were going to break the agreement?
Im finding this hard to believe, that this Jared guy would go through this much trouble in creating a fake business, just to purchase a townhouse. Not to mention the fact that he still has Kijiji adds that are actively promoting his business. So the business is fake? Or the business is real and you have evidence that he uses it to scam people?. Hmmm I believe you are seeking revenge on this forum, by trying to run his business to the ground. You are not trying to make the public aware so they dont do business with him, or you would have stated what it is that he does to scam them.

I've checked with the Provincial government and these companies do not exist. Feel free to contact The Consumer Protection Ministry yourself. Kijjii ads are all he has my friend. Several of his companies list 1 London Place as its address. I work in downtown London and walked over there. His company doesn't exist there. He claims one of his companies has as its insurance carrier Intact Insurance. I called them and they confirmed they never heard of Gyzmo Brown, Jaykob Issak etc. Intact has offices at 1 London Place. Jarred simply took the name and added it to his website. He also claims to have done business for large companies, such as UWO, Westjet, Loblaws, Tommy Hilfiger. Called these companies, and perservered through voice mail hell and being put on hold, and found out that these firms haven't ever dealt with Jarred's companies. But jarred posts their official logos and and claims they are his clients. Also, he has stolen pictures from magazines, without credit and used them on his websites claiming they are "HIS" work. I have a link if you still think Jarred is sooo innocent. PM me and I will forward. Jarred claims he has been in business for years, that his companies are "award winning" When you Google this so-called award, nothing comes up. Jarred knows most people will not do this amount of legwork. He even claims his companies have VISA, MC and Debit at the door. Do you have the first inkling how much that costs??? Or even the amount of sales you'd need to be able to pay for the POS machines??? By falsing claiming his company has insurance, he leaves you the poor putz to pay for costs if some shlub he hires off of kijjii does work at your place and has an accident.

My father was a legitmate businessman for over 35 years, he owned his company, lost it in a recession and ran the company I own until his death. I know what it takes to run one business, never mind the whack-a-mole method Jarred uses. He just makes a name up, and creates a web presence and presto, he's legit??? I don't think so. Currently he's claiming that he has an incorporated company Gyzmo Brown Inc. Design and Renovation. Google it if you like. I check, it isn't incorporated, its not even registered. He has no Ontario #. He have to do name searches and that costs money. Incorporating a company is expensive. That's why we stayed with a Limited company.

LOL! He'd have to have a real business to run into the ground first! Hopefully this has enlightened you. I don't do this because I want to as you say "run his business into the ground" I do this to warn that this guy is not legimate. Btw, if your theory was true, Jarred could sue me. He hasn't and he won't, because he knows what I've posted is true. You probably won't want to spend the time I have tracking all this---its time consuming. I now appreciate why the cops get bogged down. Its all there on Google, that Internet can be a real ***** for scammers. Jarred posts job ads trying to lure the desperate into seemingly high paying work, promising all expenses paid. Ask yourself this: If Jarred was really this big, rich wheeler-dealer that he tries to fool people into believing, why would he sooo desperately want to buy a townhouse that cost $112,000 in SE London so that they could have a nursery all set up before their baby was born?? The only BShiter is Jarred. I'm just letting people in on it.

[moreaboutjarred]

Interesting that Jarred Hayman / Cody Shaw have a new business they are in the moving business - beware they do not move all your stuff to you , they/he keeps some items for themselves or for you to have to try to get back. We meet Jarred when he delivered our move he introduced himself as Jarred Hayman but when we went to get our goods that he kept he was called Cody Shaw. I find this interesting so I say beware of any business that has any of the following names Odyssey Custom Renovation , Odyssey , Gyzmo Brown Inc , there is also some kind of pool installing company . He use several phones at the same time. He texts to you as one person and talks to as another it appears so again beware.

[moreaboutjarred]

[QUOTE=caseysghost;13748858]Well, ladies and gentlemen, it seem that little Jarred has been a very, very busy fraudster, dreaming up ever more companies to screw you out of your hard earned cash.

We now can add to the list

Fiffth Avenue Escorted Transportation

Fiffth Avenue Home Installation Services

Fiffth Avenue Carpet Cleaning.

All with the phone number: 1-855-726-5528. This is also listed to a Ryan Michael Murphy (probably one of Jarred's pals) and its also tied to Gyzmo Brown. Seems Jarred is continuing with his never ending life of crime. Guess the heat got too much on his other made up companies.[/QUOTE
He has some more companies and names he goes by Odyssey Custom Renovations, Odyssey a store at 1066 Dundas in London Ontario, Gyzmo Brown Inc. he uses the name cody shaw . He is in the moving business, pool installation and design has a face book page under gyzmo brown

[Needinghelp]

And the cops didn't bust this ******* yet why?