Thread: Bird courses at U of T: St George?
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Dec 23rd, 2007 08:28 PM
#1
Newbie
Bird courses at U of T: St George?
Hi.
I'm looking for bird half credit courses at U of T, St George campus, in the faculty of Arts & Science.
Thanks.
Last edited by netcom; Dec 23rd, 2007 at 08:32 PM.
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Dec 23rd, 2007 09:03 PM
#2
I was going to post this as well..
I heard Astronomy 101 is very easy.
Anyone else have anything?
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Dec 23rd, 2007 10:24 PM
#3
How was Astro 201? Was it easy? That's what I heard..
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Dec 23rd, 2007 11:32 PM
#4
Oh yeah, I just remembered this..
Ant253 taught by Prof. Danesi is an easy course.. he doesn't care about maintaining a particular class average, despite taking flack from the university.
Check if it's available during the spring term.
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Dec 24th, 2007 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by
jhan
Oh yeah, I just remembered this..
Ant253 taught by Prof. Danesi is an easy course.. he doesn't care about maintaining a particular class average, despite taking flack from the university.
Check if it's available during the spring term.
Not anymore. I took it last semester and the TAs were the one who made the tests. Both of them were 20% TF and 80% MC as opposed to the 100% TF before. I don't know what the average is yet though... will probably know in a few weeks.
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Dec 24th, 2007 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
Homer88
Not anymore. I took it last semester and the TAs were the one who made the tests. Both of them were 20% TF and 80% MC as opposed to the 100% TF before. I don't know what the average is yet though... will probably know in a few weeks.
Are you kidding me... the course is still a bird (I took it this semester too and didn't go to classes!). Just read the book before tests, got 31/35 on the first one and I think I got perfect on our final.
Now I hope I did well on the essay... don't know about that yet.
It isn't offered in the S term though.
I've heard good things about EEB216 (Marine mammal biology or something like that), FCS290 (History of French music). Check them out. You should remember that most bird courses lose that reputation because profs don't like it.
Last edited by HBP; Dec 24th, 2007 at 11:52 PM.
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Dec 25th, 2007 01:18 AM
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ZOO304H1 Field Ornithology. Of all the courses at UofT, this is the most "bird" you can get. Otherwise, I'd say PHL245 Modern Symbolic Logic if you like that kind of thinking.
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Dec 25th, 2007 03:24 AM
#8
Jr. Member

FCS195
FCS290
HPS211
GLG130
CLA201
ANT 250 something lol
these are all the ones i can think of
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Dec 25th, 2007 05:27 PM
#9

Originally Posted by
HBP
I'm planning on taking PHL245 next year, love logical thinking.
How is the marking scheme for ZOO304/what do you do?
It was a joke. Ornithology = Study of birds, hence, "bird" course. I hope you didn't take that seriously.
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Dec 25th, 2007 08:20 PM
#10
Hi.
I'm looking for
bird half credit courses at U of T, St George campus, in the faculty of
Arts & Science.
Thanks.
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Dec 25th, 2007 11:40 PM
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Newbie
Thank you for your suggestions so far. Much appreciated.
Any input on CSC 104 or 108?
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Dec 26th, 2007 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by
netcom
Thank you for your suggestions so far. Much appreciated.
Any input on CSC 104 or 108?
From what I hear, CSC104 is a bird.
I just took CSC108 this past term, and I'm warning you, this is NOT a bird, two buddies of mine failed miserably..
We had to make a mini photoshop from scratch using Python language for the final project, and that was one of the easier assignments. I did manage to get a B but the course eats up LOTS of time.
MAT137's fall term materials are MUCH easier than CSC108..
Last edited by jhan; Dec 26th, 2007 at 01:06 AM.
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Dec 26th, 2007 10:06 PM
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Newbie
CSC108 is a breeze if you get how to program. If you don't, then it is gonna be pure hell.
I had perfectly smart friends from other faculties who took that course and failed because they couldn't wrap their head around programming. I also have friends who breezed through it without even taking a CS course in high school.
In general, I'd say it is not very birdy unless you know programming concepts and/or python already. If you don't, then you are going to invest time into learning and possibly a lot more doing the assignments. This makes it non-birdy for the non-cs inclined student.
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Dec 26th, 2007 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by
BigBob
CSC108 is a breeze if you get how to program. If you don't, then it is gonna be pure hell.
I had perfectly smart friends from other faculties who took that course and failed because they couldn't wrap their head around programming. I also have friends who breezed through it without even taking a CS course in high school.
In general, I'd say it is not very birdy unless you know programming concepts and/or python already. If you don't, then you are going to invest time into learning and possibly a lot more doing the assignments. This makes it non-birdy for the non-cs inclined student.
Yeah, CSC108 is supposed to be an "Intro" to programming for students with no programming background.. but the thing is there are lots of good programmers taking this course to "boost" their GPA, and it makes it tougher for non-programmer students hang with the class average.
I learned a lot from CSC108 but I probably spent around 30+ hours per assignment since I was a programming newbie.. imagine if you can't understand programming, you waste your time watching your partner do all the work and fail the course in the end, because your simply won't pass the final exam without knowing the "stuff". 25 minutes midterms were dumb as well, why introduce such a TIGHT time constraints for a CS exam? It made zero sense to me, CS should be all about taking your time and thinking about algorithms, but trying to write some buggy code fast.
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Jan 4th, 2008 11:02 AM
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I feel that Java should not have been replaced by Python as the introductory language. Java's API is solid and there are many decent books on Java. There are decent books on Python but I just think the syntax in Java is easier to begin with than Python.
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