[Elect] BlackBerry Z10 Telus $99 on 3yr Term !!! + $50 Bill Credit / $0 after trade in - YMMV

[mihaimont]

Question: if the plans include cell phone subsidy, what plan do they have for a person who owns his cell phone? Suppose to be a cheap one?
What plan i will get from companies if i have my own iphone 5?

[kmchow]

Question: if the plans include cell phone subsidy, what plan do they have for a person who owns his cell phone? Suppose to be a cheap one?
What plan i will get from companies if i have my own iphone 5?

The plans are the same really. It's just that if you want a phone subsidy, you have to pay off the subsidy before you leave. If you own your own phone, you can just leave anytime. Though for rogers, there still maybe that $12.50 canx fee if you brought your own phone. The exception is Koodo and i think virgin will give you a 10% discount off your price plan if you supply your own phone.

[mihaimont]

The plans are the same really. It's just that if you want a phone subsidy, you have to pay off the subsidy before you leave. If you own your own phone, you can just leave anytime. Though for rogers, there still maybe that $12.50 canx fee if you brought your own phone. The exception is Koodo and i think virgin will give you a 10% discount off your price plan if you supply your own phone.

That is a rip-off.

[southnam]

Because there is no more data compression with BB10 - you will need a bigger data plan. I am already almost though my old 500MB plan with the Z10.

For most people - a 2-6GB plan will be the norm unless you are just doing mail.

I'm about 300 mb a mont with my 9810. I'm in wifi most of the time and most data is my emails so I don't imagine it to change too much; fingers crossed. Anyhow holding out ofr Q10.
For 37 a month I have 250 min, vm, cid, unlimited text and 1 gb data. Don't think anything new compares to it at moment at 50 so unless there is it makes sense for me not to sign a contract imho.

[Mayoo]

http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/p...ckBERRYTradeIN

he BlackBerry® Z10 is here.
Trade in your old phone at a TELUS store and get
an additional $50 in-store credit towards the BlackBerry® Z10.

[wrdeal24]

Question: if the plans include cell phone subsidy, what plan do they have for a person who owns his cell phone? Suppose to be a cheap one?
What plan i will get from companies if i have my own iphone 5?

The fighter brands (Koodo, Virgin and Fido) will offer cheaper plans with more features for people who don't want the deep subsidies that you'll get from their big brothers (Telus, Bell and Rogers) and the 10% discount from Virgin and Koodo if you don't even want to take a $150 subsidy

[Ustasa]

This means after the first month you are already ahead. After each subsequent month, you are going to save even more.
Every month after that makes the phone cheaper.

Ummm - compared to Mobilicity or Wind - you will easily be overpaying $25 per month

[sixer]

Anyone place an order recently and receive it? They're indicating 2-3 weeks wait as limited stock still.

[mech9t5]

Ummm - compared to Mobilicity or Wind - you will easily be overpaying $25 per month

why do people insist on comparing wind/mobi pricing to big 3? How is it overpaying when the big 3 CLEARLY have a valid value proposition? Second, $25 is simply not true.

What I get that wind/mobi can't offer
1. I get service in my condo and at my office building
2. I get service in places like revelstoke BC, golden BC, and tremblant QC which I went to in the last 2 months and was able to use my phone
3. I get service in malls like vauhgn mills
4. I get phones faster if I want (Z10 still not launched on wind/mobi)
5. I get LTE and even when on HSPA I get faster speeds
6. I get better customer service
7. I get to dial without worrying about circuits being busy
8. I get calls on my handset instead of having calls go to voicemail even though I have full reception

I pay $32.50 for 100mins, EW@7, Canada Wide, TXT/PIC, VM, CID, incoming calls free, 500mb data. When I use 50mins per month and only 300mb of data on my S2X, this is an unlimited plan for me.

I hardly think that I am overpaying by $25. Tell me where Wind/Mobi have a plan similar to mine for $7.50.

[mech9t5]

no one is paying you, that is misleading :-)

It is pointless arguing a plan is good or evil. just amortize(normalize) it and compare. for some it worths the price, for other it doesn't. But don't try about 'you get the phone for free or you get paid', it would invalidate your argument.

I am paying 100/year for my unlimited data + PAYTO voice/sms with my phone of choice which fits me most BTW.

I already said in the original post that you have to do the math. Not just post a stupid blanket statement saying any 3 year contract is bad.

besides, a LOT people would have signed for the $56 plan over christmas anyway regardless. So if you can get a free (current) phone (like the Note 2) AND $225 gift card, it IS paying you to take the phone. It does not invalidate any argument. And in fact, when the cancellation fee is simply the device subsidy, the $225 gift card acts as an immediate discount without ANY contract whatsoever with the option to save money by continuing to pay for service.

[mech9t5]

Calm down. He has a point as it is recognized that Canada is one of the world's worst cellular market for consumers.

And maybe it is thanks to people like him (and me) that refuse to be locked in contracts that the market is slowly being more competitive. We are the last country with nearly universal 3-year contracts while phones are being released in one year cycle.
Besides you mention one excellent contract out of 100s of awful ones out there.

you obviously still don't get the point. It doesn't matter if it is a 10 year contract. Today's contracts have no teeth. the cancellation fee is simply the subsidy which is what you would have paid for the phone anyway... why is this so hard to understand?

the only point that seems valid would have been 2 year contracts for free phones in the UK. I say SEEMS valid because the poster who mentioned this obviously doesn't do any research at all. the termination fee for O2 for example in the UK is the FULL MONTHLY FEE FOR THE REMAINING MONTHS. To get the phone for free, there are minimum plans you need to sign up on. I think the Z10 is £31. This means if you cancel after 1 year, you still owe them about $584 (approx 1.57 exchange).

So which contract is better?

[chimp]

I already said in the original post that you have to do the math. Not just post a stupid blanket statement saying any 3 year contract is bad.

besides, a LOT people would have signed for the $56 plan over christmas anyway regardless. So if you can get a free (current) phone (like the Note 2) AND $225 gift card, it IS paying you to take the phone. It does not invalidate any argument. And in fact, when the cancellation fee is simply the device subsidy, the $225 gift card acts as an immediate discount without ANY contract whatsoever with the option to save money by continuing to pay for service.

it does. you get a 225 reduction but still no one is paying you or it is free. Free means free or zero dollars out of your pocket at the end of the day(not the day you sign the contract but when it is over or you when you cancel it). And people are paying you if you end up having more in your pocket.

And there is no plan I have seen so far that doesn't reduce my bank balance.

Would you call you can get a 1M house for just 100K just because you don't up front need to pay the rest ? I would say that is '10%' down.

[kool1]

I'm about 300 mb a mont with my 9810. I'm in wifi most of the time and most data is my emails so I don't imagine it to change too much; fingers crossed. Anyhow holding out ofr Q10.
For 37 a month I have 250 min, vm, cid, unlimited text and 1 gb data. Don't think anything new compares to it at moment at 50 so unless there is it makes sense for me not to sign a contract imho.

If you use a lot of wifi you should be ok.

[rocking23nf]

I played with this phone today, one of my users had their phone arrive, I set it up for him, I absolutely hated it. If you like android and iphone phones, your probably not going to like this phone. the shape and weight is nice, but the OS was painful to use, perhaps with more then 15 minutes of use I would have liked it better, but theres no way anyone who has any difficulty using a smartphone should get this phone.

[LostInTruth]

I agree that contracts are not as bad as they used to be. There are also things that the Big 3 can sometimes do for you if you broke/lost/unsuccessful repair with your phone that the smaller carriers simply cannot. Of course this is YMMV. I know someone with TELUS who had sent their phone out twice for a defect and got a brand new phone without any contract extension. That in itself is worth the price.