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Business Internet: who has fast upload?

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Business Internet: who has fast upload?

Looking for cheap business internet with a fast upload speed ("fast" being 2mbps or better).

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[size=84]    Rogers    50.95   3/640 
    Cable     72.95   8/1
              109.95  12/2
              149.95  30/2

    Telus     54.95 15/1    70GB cap
    ADSL      76.68 15/1    70GB cap   (includes 5 email addresses, plus equally-useless other ****)
              96.65 15/1    200GB cap
              
    Shaw      56.95 7.5/512 125GB
    Cable     79.95 25/2.5  250GB
              99.95 50/5    500GB
  
    Teksavvy  59+9  6/800   unlim ADSL Dry
    
    Acanac: no business
    
    3web    
    
    Bell      48.50   6/800[/size]
Rogers has 2MB uploads for the out-of-my-budget price of $110/mo; Shaw is much better (faster&cheaper) but is not avail. in Toronto. Anyone have any other ideas?
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May 27, 2007
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Why do you need the fast upload? A far cheaper option is usually to host the files you need to share on a server in a datacenter with a good connection. Upload the files once, share fast forever.
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Jul 4, 2004
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Fast upload? Probably for multiple line VOIP use.

Acanac has business, it's 6/800. That 800 is barely good enough for 2 VOIP lines. VOIP gets iffy if someone's downloading something. We're going to change to a managed network soon, so that'll fix that problem, but it doesn't make the "pipeline" any bigger.
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Mar 3, 2010
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I have 10/1 with Cogeco in Oakville. I also needed fast upload speed for VoIp and 3/0.6 I had with DSL couldn't make it. For VoIP upload is very important. Not only that it has to be fast but steady so I could not take regular home line which is even faster but not guaranteed steady for upload. So I had to take Cogeco business line 10/1.

Since you are in Toronto you don't can't get Cogeco there. I don't like Rogers but that sounds like viable option. I also hear that Bell Fibe is really fast so if you can go for it. They maybe let you test drive it for month before deciding for sure. They let me do it.

Important, you will not find out how good line is from incoming signal. For me quality was always great, even with about 1MB down. Trick is to ask how they hear YOU. I was testing that myself often by calling business line from home line or cell phone.
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Jul 19, 2007
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Donimo wrote: So what is this then?

Your link seems to refer to portable internet hubs.

That's because Bell Aliant in the maritimes has real fibre-to-the-home, while Fibe in Ontario is fibre-to-the-node, and it's still a copper line from there to your house. Bell Aliant is different in so many ways to Bell in the rest of Canada, even mobility plans for Aliant have double the minutes of non-Aliant plans. I guess it's just more competitive out east, while here in Ontario, we continue to get screwed.
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Mar 13, 2004
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Teksavvy now offers, 25x7 Service, so you probably want to look into that as it's the best upload you will be able to get in Toronto unless you get some dedicated line and pay hundreds if not thousands a month.
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sickcars wrote: Teksavvy now offers, 25x7 Service, so you probably want to look into that as it's the best upload you will be able to get in Toronto unless you get some dedicated line and pay hundreds if not thousands a month.

Do you have a link? Can't find at teksavvy.com
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frogblender wrote: Do you have a link? Can't find at teksavvy.com

Hmmm seems to be only under Residential.... Do you need this connection at home possibly that you could order the 25/7 connetion.? You could always give them a call or post in their direct forum on DSLReports to get a better answer.
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Apr 1, 2004
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Just saw the Bell Aliant options for the first time... 30/30 for $80/month? God, I would get that in a second if available in Ontario....
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1) Acanac now offers cable internet (to homes, and apparently to businesses too) with 24/1 for $39.95, no caps.
This is both significantly cheaper and significantly faster (both on the download, AND, my sought-after upload) than my current Rogers business internet.

2) But lo and behold: the rogers upload speed seems to have increased of late; a quick check of speedtest.net now shows a 1mbps upload speed, instead of the old 640k.

YAY to Acanac for bringing competition to the market.
BOO to Rogers for providing crap upload service until forced to by the competition.
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Sadly you're screwed like the rest of us if you're in the GTA.

Your options are Bell Fibe (if available), gives you 7mbps up max or one of the bell resellers maybe (tekksavvy etc).

I heard rogers once upon a time was considering increasing their feeble upload speeds on their ultimate plans but this hasn't happened yet.
Deal Addict
Oct 29, 2010
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You are screwed (like everyone else)

There is no higher upload for BUSINESS. There is for residential however.
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Feb 8, 2012
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VOIP calls normally need about 100 kbps both ways. But do you care to find out where that VOIP packet is going after it leaves your Internet Provider?

Its true that most internet speed issues, for web access, boil down to the Last Mile problem i.e "your internet speed".... and moreover, it is assumed that all web servers are equal in-terms of accessibility and speed.

But, in my opinion, that's not the entirely true where VOIP traffic is concerned.

If you jog your memory, you will remember the odd occasion when certain websites took ages to load up or show up and you ended up cursing your internet provider, when, in fact, there was a problem with speed/capacities/hardware issues of the server hosting that particular website.

Not all ITSPs ( internet telephone service providers ) have excellent capacities and bandwidth at all times or at all loads.
Some saturate faster than other, some mom-and-pop ITSP shops could be running off the fastest residential Internet connection out of a basement.....

So, before you go out and spend the money to get the fattest pipe you can afford, ...try to investigate whether your ITSP or Internet Telephone Service provider or the VOIP provider is not over-utilizing their capacity and trying to service more customers than they can handle !

The "last mile problem" could very well be at the VOIP providers end !!! :D
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Aug 16, 2007
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Just to update: High upload speeds are creeping into Residential internet service ! Thanks to Bell. Love them or hate them, Bell is genuinely upping the bar here. Check out this crazy shlt! 175MBPS???

Well, thanks to some RFD "bell.jpg - Exceeds forum quota by 46.47 MB" busted- ***** crap, I can't post my Bell screengrab. So here's the Bell residential services (upload/download, in mbps):
Bell Fibe 15/10 = $50/mo
Bell Fibe 25/10 = $60/mo
Bell Fibe 50/50 = $80/mo
Bell Fibe 175/175 = $200/mo (ouch ouch on the price.... but dang! 175!? Like I said - raising the bar. Not sure how any residential customer could fully utilize this speed, though.)

Source: https://www.bell.ca/Bell_Internet/Internet_access

For comparison: Rogers most expensive residential service still limps along at 2mbps upload.
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frogblender wrote: Just to update: High upload speeds are creeping into Residential internet service ! Thanks to Bell. Love them or hate them, Bell is genuinely upping the bar here. Check out this crazy shlt! 175MBPS???

Well, thanks to some RFD "bell.jpg - Exceeds forum quota by 46.47 MB" busted- ***** crap, I can't post my Bell screengrab. So here's the Bell residential services (upload/download, in mbps):
Bell Fibe 15/10 = $50/mo
Bell Fibe 25/10 = $60/mo
Bell Fibe 50/50 = $80/mo
Bell Fibe 175/175 = $200/mo (ouch ouch on the price.... but dang! 175!? Like I said - raising the bar. Not sure how any residential customer could fully utilize this speed, though.)

Source: https://www.bell.ca/Bell_Internet/Internet_access

For comparison: Rogers most expensive residential service still limps along at 2mbps upload.
I just had fibe started, they would only do 25/15 on my line, but said it was ready to go up to 80 - they just are rolling it out slowly
Deal Addict
Oct 29, 2010
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Thread is about business internet though, those are residential packages.
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Aug 16, 2007
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Bell offered 7down/4up for $40.05/mo+HST all in, $125 install for dry loop. 12 mo contract. Sounded good, so I took it.

Then when the installer came, he said I'd only get 1mb up, cuz we're too far from the central office. This doesn't help me, so I sent him away.
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Rogers in Ontario now offers 30/5 for 79.95 (effective today, although their website still says 10/2).

The best I could swing was: $10 off for 1 year commitment, or $20 off for 3 year. Anyone do better?

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