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Buying phones on Kijiji - Blacklisted

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Buying phones on Kijiji - Blacklisted

Was wondering would it be possible for a seller to blacklist a phone after selling it someone (screwing over the buyer). For example, you met a kijiji seller for an iphone and paid them $700-800 and say shortly after he/she phones there provider and says there phone is stolen and for the provider blacklist it. This issue always got me weary of buying phones on kijiji cause there a lot of shady sellers.
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The community is warned that cellphone deals on Kijiji that appear "too good to be true" will likely result in blacklisting or collections-blocking, yielding the phone unuseable on at least one of the major carriers. This is most common among top brand flagship phones such as Apple and Samsung.
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Yes this scenario happens quite often. The seller can always call in 1 day, 1 week, or even 1 month from now and report it stolen then you're **** out of luck.
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Yes, of course they can. That's the risk you take when buying a phone directly off of someone, unfortunately. If you're super suspicious, perhaps sneak a peak at their ID and commit the details to memory?
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If the bought phone ends up getting black listed, can it ever be unblacklisted? Like showing the carrier/provider text message log of the sale communication.
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As far as I know, only the original purchaser can get it removed from the blacklist database.
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kukkudo wrote:
Sep 28th, 2017 2:46 pm
If the bought phone ends up getting black listed, can it ever be unblacklisted? Like showing the carrier/provider text message log of the sale communication.
Should be better to buy from another rfder with good rating
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Unless buying from someone you know. Would not touch websites like Kijiji or Craigslist for cellphones.
Too high of a risk that the phone is blacklisted and can subsequently to blacklisted by the seller.
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kukkudo wrote:
Sep 28th, 2017 1:52 pm
Was wondering would it be possible for a seller to blacklist a phone after selling it someone (screwing over the buyer). For example, you met a kijiji seller for an iphone and paid them $700-800 and say shortly after he/she phones there provider and says there phone is stolen and for the provider blacklist it. This issue always got me weary of buying phones on kijiji cause there a lot of shady sellers.
Yes, if you think you gonna save few $ buying phone in kijiji, you gonna end up losing $700-$800.
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kukkudo wrote:
Sep 28th, 2017 1:52 pm
Was wondering would it be possible for a seller to blacklist a phone after selling it someone (screwing over the buyer). For example, you met a kijiji seller for an iphone and paid them $700-800 and say shortly after he/she phones there provider and says there phone is stolen and for the provider blacklist it. This issue always got me weary of buying phones on kijiji cause there a lot of shady sellers.
If possible insist on getting a full receipt of the phone. A typical scenario is that the buyer gets the phone after commiting a 2 years higher rate (over $80 a month) service. Once he walks out of the contract (say lay off or work permit terminated....) , the phone will be blacklisted by the carrier. There is not much the buyer can do if the original seller did not even have a full title of ownership
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Phonophoresis wrote:
Sep 28th, 2017 2:17 pm
Yes, of course they can. That's the risk you take when buying a phone directly off of someone, unfortunately. If you're super suspicious, perhaps sneak a peak at their ID and commit the details to memory?
In the scenario that I mentioned above, having the seller's id does not help. He is not the one to report loss. Also it is not a crime not being able to pay for an expensive 2 year contract (e.g. company layoff)
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danieltoronto wrote:
Sep 28th, 2017 6:01 pm
In the scenario that I mentioned above, having the seller's id does not help. He is not the one to report loss. Also it is not a crime not being able to pay for an expensive 2 year contract (e.g. company layoff)
Having the seller's ID helps immensely and greatly reduces the chances of being screwed. You may not necessarily have legal recourse, but think about it, would you be willing to show your DL to someone if you were either going to blacklist the phone, or knew it was going to be in the near future?

It's just a fact that it's a risk either way. The more information the seller can provide to you, the higher assurance you can have that it's a safe transaction, it's really as simple as that.
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Phonophoresis wrote:
Sep 28th, 2017 6:09 pm
Having the seller's ID helps immensely and greatly reduces the chances of being screwed. You may not necessarily have legal recourse, but think about it, would you be willing to show your DL to someone if you were either going to blacklist the phone, or knew it was going to be in the near future?

It's just a fact that it's a risk either way. The more information the seller can provide to you, the higher assurance you can have that it's a safe transaction, it's really as simple as that.
The seller may not even have the slightest intention to cheat. But if he/she cannot afford the expensive carrier cost a month for 2 years (which has a hidden instatment portion of the cost of the phone), nailing him/her is useless.
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Phonophoresis wrote:
Sep 28th, 2017 6:09 pm
Having the seller's ID helps immensely and greatly reduces the chances of being screwed. You may not necessarily have legal recourse, but think about it, would you be willing to show your DL to someone if you were either going to blacklist the phone, or knew it was going to be in the near future?

It's just a fact that it's a risk either way. The more information the seller can provide to you, the higher assurance you can have that it's a safe transaction, it's really as simple as that.
The guy could've shown you a fraudulent ID that he used to activate the phone to begin with. A lot of people doing this type of fraud aren't regular people. They don't have a steady place of living and are probably renting one place to the other. They could care less if you go to the address as they probably don't live there anymore. And tbh, they probably know you have no legal recourse so they simply don't care if you do go straight to their house. You can call the cops, but fraudsters can say they sold the phone as is and anything that happens to it later on is on you.
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Might be a good idea at this point for the Mods to have a sticky thread about buying used phones...

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