Buying and selling annoyances

[MrKat]

Ive done online selling and buying for quite a while now. The biggest issue I have with it is the people who purposely do not keep their end of the agreement. You know the process - I put something up for sale, they contact me yada yada yada...and after some discussion we agree on a final price and time/place to meet. In most cases I do end up already taking some off my asking price - Im always negotiable, but it really annoys me when they try to milk every penny out of my price.

So as we meet and complete the transaction - they try to negotiate with you some more. "How much did you want again?" Its like uhh dont play stupid, this has got to be the oldest trick in the book. You know what we agreed on, dont try to re-negotiate. Then they will be like "oh well, (X.XX) hows that...?...Ill take it right now for so and so"

Then I just usually make up some ***** like "Oh i have 2 other people asking about it too and are willing to pay (X.XX)"....in other words, if you arent keeping your agreement then F OFF is basically what Im saying. Why do people bother doing this? Seriously...I find it rude and just umm bad business practices. Stop wasting our time by trying to make a 5 min sale last half an hour by negotiating.

[CatDog]

im happy, i havent came around that yet in real life, though i expect it.

most people just try to get a lower price in PM or phone, but in real life I haven't had any people back out last second.

[Jon Lai]

I think you're just unlucky. That, or those guys are just very bitchy.

[TapemanPL]

yea those people are kinda just being *****...if i'm buying or selling when i call before the meet i always confirm the price so theres no funny business like that

[MrKat]

yea those people are kinda just being *****...if i'm buying or selling when i call before the meet i always confirm the price so theres no funny business like that

Even if you confirm right before meeting up, Ive still met a few people who still try to negotiate when face to face. I mean if they already know I wont go any lower, why try to milk it some more? Hey I just tell them, if you dont want to pay the price we agreed on fine, so long and Ill just sell to the next person in line. You dont agree to buy it forsure at a certain price, then in person try to offer less...its a punch in the face to the seller.

[VorteC]

Okay you're not gonna believe this, happened to me 1.5 years ago. This guy calls me and asks how much I want for my Archos av500. I said $300 which is already fricken low. He's like "can you budge on the price a bit?" i'm like sure.. so hes like "how about 270" and i wanted to get rid of it quick so i said sure. he wants to meet near his work, so i said yes to that.

When I get to the place, he unwraps the packaging spreading it accross the floor (i didn't really care if i got dirty cuz he was gonna buy it anyways) and after about 5min of checking everything out, he breaks this line "To be honest, I've only got about $100 right now, so if you wanna sell it for that it's a done deal"

In my mind, I must have cursed at him with a billion swears, but I acted calm and I said "alright, can you pack it up?" he packs it, i take it, and i drove off.

[itcareer]

Even if you confirm right before meeting up, Ive still met a few people who still try to negotiate when face to face. I mean if they already know I wont go any lower, why try to milk it some more? Hey I just tell them, if you dont want to pay the price we agreed on fine, so long and Ill just sell to the next person in line. You dont agree to buy it forsure at a certain price, then in person try to offer less...its a punch in the face to the seller.

I think you are taking it too seriously. I've never had the problem because I always confirm before meet up. As soon as buyer starts trying to renegotiate after price was confirmed by both parties in PM, and especially if buy arrives late, I have fun by asking if they brought the online coupon code with them or start taking about MIR. If that fails and they start low balling more with a take it or leave it attitude, just start high balling. This is also why I try to meet the buyer close to home so I don't incur travel expense in case of low baller. Just pay what we agreed upon dam it!

[TapemanPL]

Okay you're not gonna believe this, happened to me 1.5 years ago. This guy calls me and asks how much I want for my Archos av500. I said $300 which is already fricken low. He's like "can you budge on the price a bit?" i'm like sure.. so hes like "how about 270" and i wanted to get rid of it quick so i said sure. he wants to meet near his work, so i said yes to that.

When I get to the place, he unwraps the packaging spreading it accross the floor (i didn't really care if i got dirty cuz he was gonna buy it anyways) and after about 5min of checking everything out, he breaks this line "To be honest, I've only got about $100 right now, so if you wanna sell it for that it's a done deal"

In my mind, I must have cursed at him with a billion swears, but I acted calm and I said "alright, can you pack it up?" he packs it, i take it, and i drove off.

man i would have punched that douche in the face. this is why we should just start a thread to expose all the lowball buyers...then maybe some of them might stop

[Kasakato]

I always try to put a verbal agreement into a semi-official agreement. I always come up with a draft contract with the final price, submit it to the seller/buyer and get an initial confirmation. A copy is printed and brought to the meet-up for signing. As I have already printed out the agreement, its impossible for them to try and renegotiate without having to reprint it.

[jaigandhi5]

in a perfect world..**** is perfect..

unfortunately we don't live in this so-called perfect world...

btw i have the same issue

[vladislav]

That's why I never go out of my way to meet buyers unless they have very good feedback, if they want something they come pick it up and if they start lowballing the door is right there.

[Jucius Maximus]

Camera-phone photos in the ads really annoy me. Those photos are too small and grainy. Give me nice high quality photos taken by a proper camera.

I have also had a few where the people contact me and say that they definitely want the item, and then magically disappear. That always annoys me.

As to people who try to renegotiate when you meet, I have not seen that.

[Cyber6]

Camera-phone photos in the ads really annoy me. Those photos are too small and grainy. Give me nice high quality photos taken by a proper camera.

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I also hate the "I can't post pictures cause I don't have a digital camera" .. give me a f*cking break !!!... everyone and their dog have a digital camera these days. Even if you don't have a camera, I bet you know someone with one. I am not asking for a dslr, a crappy 1 megapixel will do.


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[MrKat]

I think you are taking it too seriously. I've never had the problem because I always confirm before meet up. As soon as buyer starts trying to renegotiate after price was confirmed by both parties in PM, and especially if buy arrives late, I have fun by asking if they brought the online coupon code with them or start taking about MIR. If that fails and they start low balling more with a take it or leave it attitude, just start high balling. This is also why I try to meet the buyer close to home so I don't incur travel expense in case of low baller. Just pay what we agreed upon dam it!

Im not taking it too seriously, and like I said I ALWAYS confirm the price we agreed on prior to meeting - unfortunately in some cases it is completely pointless in doing so.

Lets take for example my last sale - where the buyer tried to offer $100 less than "our agreed price"...in other words 100%, he said he would take it forsure at that price." He practically asked me for a week non stop whats the lowest I can do and I told him...so as we agreed on a FIRM price, and he said he would forsure take it, we meet up. And what does he do? After he sees the stuff "How much did you want for it again?....I'll give you X.XX right now"...(basically $100 less than what we agreed on). Then I just told him, no...and he practically kept asking over and over and over again and throwing me with all these lame excuses "Oh but I had to drive over here...."

Give me a break kid, you were the one who need the item ASAP, what do you expect? Oh I suppose I should have shouffered the product to his front door with a 6 pack beer? Sheesh...and it was like maybe a 10 min drive. Geez Im surprised he didnt ask me to deduct his gas off the price. Asking once or twice is fine, but contstantly nagging over it..."oh cmon, oh plz, putty plz" Gimme a break, save yourself the pitty. He did finally end up paying up the price we agreed on (after 15 mins of non stop begging), and he was all upset over it...but why ask 300 more times in person if he already know what price we agreed on...its annoying and makes the seller look like a total cheapskate. I was this close to just calling it off and telling him to hit the road as he was just pissing me off with his non stop begging...but frankly I rarely do that because it basically wastes both of ours time...and if we've gone that far, I really try to just get the sale over and done with.

That's why I never go out of my way to meet buyers unless they have very good feedback, if they want something they come pick it up and if they start lowballing the door is right there.

same. Either I meet the buyers at my house (or near) or in and around my work...or I can go near their home/work "IF" I happen to be in their area.

[ji2o0k]

that is really bad trading etiquette in my mind if you guys have a confirmed price and the buyer tries to lowball in person when you meet up.

I have been fortunate that I haven't encountered such buyers and if I did, I definitely wouldn't sell it any lower than the confirmed price that we agreed upon.

If I am the seller, I try to meet up near my house or work so I am not inconvenienced.

I hear you guys about a buyer wanting an item, pretty much everything is confirmed and then they disappear. I hate that too. But I try not to let it bother me too much.